>>749018176
sucks how they butchered this character. In Witcher 2 this nigga had so much potential

>>749018176
burning evil witches is wrong because…IT JUST IS OKAY?!

Honestly he arguably had a point when it came to the sorceresses, from what I remember from the books they are unironically manipulating the Northern Kingdoms. The problem is when he starts sending his goons after random herbalists.

Witcher universe would be much more interesting if we could play as a non-cucked Witcher instead of Geralt the sissy of rivia

>>749018176
he was literally groomed

>>749018951
This is why Skyrim mogs Witcher 3 btw

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>>749018176
Many such cases.

Witches are imensely powerful and can do magic, how did Radovid manage to hunt them without getting offed with a curse or whatever?

>>749018176
You have examples of that same vilification irl anon
Ever heard Adolf Hitler?

>>749018176
He's evil because he's Polish

>>749019360
Never trust a kurwa

>>749019324
He was a higher level.

>>749019360
isn't the entire north Polish?
Southerners are blend of Germany and Rome, the faaar north and skeligers are skandis, and beyond the mountains you have arabs

>>749019360
He's evil because he's bald.

>>749019324
Heavenly mandate

>>749019293
This is why Fallout 4 always mogged Shitcher 3

>>749018176
There's no greater evil in the modern world

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>>749019309
Based. That why conscripting him was the best ending.

>>749019449
Redania is Polska

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>>749019471
This

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>>749019494

>>749019494
>that modded Skyrim looking cut

>>749018940
that's also most of the plot of witcher 2 with the lodge
there were also some scenes about it with triss in witcher 1

>>749019494
>gullible retard that died for an incel award

>>749018940
That's why they made him go full retard for no reason to the point he starts killing random doctors, alchemists etc. Can't make him too sympathetic
>>749019360
This and not in a meme way. Game was made by Polish far too gone self-hating Liberals so they went out of the way to make notPoland evil. Exactly this same way as Liberals making antiWhite games in USA
>>749019449
Redania is notPoland. Temeria is notFrance

>>749019880
I don't care. Not video games. I fucking hate you constantly political fags. All of you. Every one. Yes the left too.

>>749018176
No, he is evil because he is bald. You cant trust hairless men

t. baldie

>>749019953
why are you in a political thread then

>>749018176
Letting Radovid live is the best result for Redania, so he’s based

>>749018176
he was more of a retard than anything
should've just killed Philippa and kept the rest on a tight leash like Emhyr did, there was no need for all that witch hunting nonsense

>>749020098
The best result for the general Witcher world would be everything under Nilfgaard rule and Nilfgaard ruled by Ciri tho

>>749020098
No, that would de Siggy.

I'm still disappointed that his didn't his hotwife appear in 2/3, even if you save her in the first game.

>>749019309
>blight is about to wipe out all of us?
>lets start civil war and not fight against blight
???

>>749019360
Polish people have not been evil once in their history.

>>749018940
>The problem is when he starts sending his goons after random herbalists.
There's not a single purge in human history that stayed focused on the original enemy. When your solution to a problem is "let's kill thousands of people" before any other solution, it ALWAYS spills out on innocents.

>>749019449
Skelige is a weird mix of Gaelic and Norse culture

>>749018176
I hated how they butchered this character. In Witcher 2 this bastard had so much potential.

>>749019358
And the jewry made him pay the heaviest price for it. He did plenty of dumb choices, but his heart was in the right place.

>>749020098
>>749020436
that quest fucking sucked

>>749018940
>from what I remember from the books they are unironically manipulating the Northern Kingdoms.
Yes, but it's a good thing

>>749018176
>Country
Feudal kingdoms aren't countries in any meaningful sense.

>>749020638
Zero chance of taking the crown vs taking the opportunity of almost as small chance of taking the crown, basically.

>finally a Witcher thread
>Immediately derailed into muh real life countries
>Immediately derailed again into muh democrats vs republicans
Kill yourselves

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>>749018176
I love witcher 3, but they did fucking drop the ball with the endings hard
the whole fuckhuge invasion outcome is based on one shitty quest, and then
> while you were away for 2 weeks the whole thing got completely resolved lol

>>749019324
dimeritium bombs

>>749022043
There's currently at least 3 active Witcher threads on /v/, you disingenuous faggot.

>>749018176
>dude what if he went le insane off screen
Terrible character assassination

>>749019324
Same way a Witcher can job to a mob of peasants with pitchforks.

>>749018176
okay fine but do you really need to rape and burn witches though??

>>749022205
I don't know about burning, but a good raping can go a long way.

>>749020638
He didn't believe it was an actual blight since the archdemon never showed up until the end. He thought the wardens were tricking the naive king and were going to take over like they did in the past.

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>>749018176
No, he's evil because writers were bunch of retards. His character was completely butchered.

>>749018382
Dijkstra had it even worse! They made him into a completely idiot. A complete waste of one of the book's better characters that was teased since TW1.
Who can also forget Eredin and TWH, the biggest villain group, and they made them suck donkey's balls! Eredin went from understandable antagonist that was doing what he had to do to save his people (especially due to incompetent king), to being generic Marvel throwaway villain.
I don't even want to go into Avallac'h, how whitewashed he got (ths is the fucker Ciri trusts the most?), and gets away with everything. He isn't even addressed as potential villain. To paint a picture: This is on pair with Ellie in TLOU2 killing everyone for her revenge, but decides that revenge is bad at very end when she needs to kill Abby. Literally the same shit!

You can tell that vidya was at the bad place when THIS got praised as the video game of all time back then. Even if you are a fag that never touched a book or previous TW game title in your life, you can't look at Radovid, Dijkstra, Eredin, TWH, and tell me that they aren't abhorrently written. Worst of all... They were MAJOR characters. Not some minor one that you could just ignore. They were key factors of said game and they were some of the worst written characters in that said game.

>gets portrayed as crazy schizo guy who think the sorceresses are out there to get him
>gets killed the first time he is an unsecured place by a sorceresses

>>749022908
>start the great sorceress purge
>sorceress kill you back
No way!

>>749022908
Funny thing is that for anyone who knows this universe knows he is 100% justified in hating them.
They were literally the biggest and main problem. From books to games themselves. Book are even worse because outside of Yennefer, every sorceresses is just pure vile piece of shit that would sell you out in an instant. Triss included.

>>749022907
I recall seeing posts from some Polish anons saying that CDPR had some ship troon that basically shipped Ciri and Avallac'h, hence why they are all of a sudden besties.

I do recall that cut-content did mention that devs did plan to send Geralt in one of the endings to kill Avallac'h. So, at least we know that this was on the table. Probably by devs who knew what unredeemable trash this character was. Eredin had a good reason. Avallac'h was just piece of shit.

>>749018176
His entire family line is not that great, but also: people forget that in Witcher 1 he was supporting Salamandra (Along with Adda) but then when shit went south he went "Oh I totally don't know these guys". In Witcher 2, he specifically wanted to grab Foltest's lands even though Foltest was the best monarch in the North. When Foltest was killed he was trying super hard to get Temeria by either marriage or grabbing Foltest's bastards.

Radovid was never a good guy. He was always scheming, the thing is as time went on he grew more paranoid and more reckless. Hell, even Dijkstra says that if this goes on he will slip more into his paranoia.

>>749018176
3 completely butchered him. In the books, and in 1-2 he was rightfully angry about witches. He hunted them down, meaning his country ended up without support from powerful magic users, yet enemies have this. What he did to boost the power of his country? Closed down Oxenfurt Academy??? What the actual fuck, why the king at war with another country doesn't promote fucking science to combat magic?? It's utterly ridiculous how badly cdpshit screwed up his character.

>>749023291
The difference is that in all that your wrote, anon, he is being smart.
I don't think that anyone would ever argue Radovid as good guy unironically. The issue is how cartoonishly evil he becomes in TW3 that he basically lost all of his brain cells. He went from a schemer to CartoonNetworks bad guy.

As he also said >>749022907: Dijkstra was even worse in that regard. Imagine a character known for his cunning being reduced to "Me or youR Bro wHO HElPed yOu Out lASt GaME geRrADO"

>>749022907
Sigismund Dijkstra was by far the worst writing in that game.
This guy is meant to be master schemer and one of the smartest characters in this universe, yet tw3 wrote him as the biggest retard.
Real Dijkstra would never make a dumb risk of trying to ask Geralt directly to kill Vernon Roche when he knows that they have a history. Real Dijkstra would never take such a dumb risk. Instead, he would move on silently. Get rid of Roche off scene, but do it in a way that frames his opponents. That way he would also capitalize on potential friendship that Geralt had with Roche by using this as a motivation to help him. That is a thing actual Dijkstra would over whatever the fuck that retarded shit was in the game.

>>749022907
the game was rewritten badly in the last moment, the original story was darker and more interesting. I won't forgive them for shitting on the good setup from w2 and putting all w2 characters into the dustbin. https://github.com/glassfish777/WhatLiesUnseen

for a game that get so praised for its writing both the main story and the biggest side quest/story are actually hot garbage.
there like probably less than 5 smaller side quests that have nice writing.
only really good writing in the hos dlc but the hos story also has lots of elements ripped straight from other stories.
b&w is nice dlc for adding a new area and tons of other stuff but the main story is again pretty weak

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Sorceresses should be hunted for sport

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>>749024253
for me it's going deep in the green woods

>>749018940
he did pluck evil manipulating witch eyes for that
she was assigned to him to control the country from her 'advisor' role, and he was justified to get rid of her

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Sorceresses are literally jews of this universe. Every single problem always stems from them. Even in Geralt's own adventures, they were by far the worst and the biggest cause for everything wrong. Even Yennefer underwent hell in large thanks to her "sisters" who sold her and Geralt out whenever they could. You know it's absolutely bad when said Yennefer is the best you can single out and she herself isn't a wallflower.
You can't even excuse them with "they are hot" because they are not. Outside of Triss, it's all illusion. Basically magic plastic surgery. Your average sorceress is your average hot Asian waifu before she took a visit to Dr Kim.

>>749024506
>Outside of Triss
As if I'm ever going outside of Triss.

>>749024506
>You can't even excuse them with "they are hot"
I mean you kinda can because as they are completely infertile their genetics literally do not matter.

>>749018176
Never really got the demonizing Witches/Wizard subplot in Witcher 3 when magic is clearly ubiquitous and literally anybody can use it in some way shape or form. You also have visiting wizards from other countries that are directly connected to royal/military interests that would be a very bad idea to "hunt." Then, there's mages like whatever the hell Olgierd was supposed to be. That just got demonic powers and summons by uttering nonsense into the ether.

>>749018176
>>749018940
>Bad guy who does evil things is actually... LE GOOD GUY?!?!

No, he's just a bad guy with flimsy justifications and you are too morally retarded to see that.

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>>749018176

Blame Eilhart for effectively mentoring him in a brutal and ruthless way turning him into the man he becomes and claiming regency of Redania following his father's death. She never betrayed him at any given point but he was completely 1000% correct for being paranoid enough in that she only wanted political power to protect herself and gain dominance over others.

All of the Sorceresses deserves absolutely zero sympathy. They manipulate the Northern Kingdoms and treat kings like fools.

>>749022510
>it's not an actual blight
>we're just facing hordes of darkspawn
>and entire settlements are getting massacred
>but i just don't believe it, ok?
>better start a civil war

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i support the sorceresses, btw

>>749023546
>Its the writers fault!
>He wasnt actually a retard who did stupid things!
Apologists will straight up deny who the character is and what they do rather than see the plain facts.

Can you faggots separate your IRL political leanings from this shit and stop doing mental gymnastics to defend this character who acts as a surrogate for whatever IRL politician you are simping for?

>>749024853
Geralt's mother says hi

>>749024952

Actually he ends up being completely right. The Lodge attempts to take over Nilfgaard the same way they influenced Redania and the Nothern Kingdoms soon after and it fails miserably.

Radovid was completely correct.

>>749024867
Actual mages destroying massive armies vs village witches turning milk into piss and cheese into shit. Yeah, totally the same thing. And Gaunter is more of a monster than a mage

>>749024853
Yesn't...
On paper current sorceresses are infertile, but... It might happen on rare chance. You have our protagonist's own mother as one example.

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Radovid going schizo used to bother me until I learned that the Netflix show made Dandelion and Radovid gay with each other
Now the games are flawless to me

>>749025165
>>749025324
It's an exception, if you fugg some sorceress you probably won't have an ugly incel son

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>>749025384
Wait what?

>you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you have "um I gotta protect my country for realsies" as an excuse
Fag

>>749025424
Yeah it's not a shitpost or anything, Dandelion and Radovid are gay lovers in the Netflix show

>>749025409
Still, the chance is still there. Might be rare, but could happen. One day you cum inside this fake-hot bitch thinking it's fine because she can't have kids. Another day you find out you fathered Elliot Rodger.

>>749023215
>Avallac'h was just piece of shit
QRD? I didn't read the books and I don't think I'm going to anyway

>>749018382
>>749022907
The real truth nuke that people can't handle is that the Witcher 2 has the best story, choices, and characters in the entire series but so many fake fans only started with 3 since 3 is when the series finally became a mainstream hit.

>>749025473
Why do they always do this shit and with existing character? Just create your own if you need to meet your modern fag quota. You can even use characters that already exist in the book, but don't have much plot. For example, I remember there was a sorcerer corcerer who was homo for profit. You can easily use him so you have existing character and write whatever the fuck about him because he is too blank.

>>749025553
most witcher "fans" never even played 1 and 2 or if they did they consider them clunky and outdated or not important.

>>749025553
I don't think anyone disagrees with this do they?
>Witcher 1 is just rehashed beats from the book, lazy shit like Adda turning back into a Striga because uhh... we need a Striga fight
>Witcher 2 actually progresses past the books a bit and includes a bunch of northern factions and nilfgard actually doing something. Does a good job with the pre-established book characters and the non-book characters like Letho fit in perfectly
>Witcher 3 is mostly chore-slop where you run around giant maps doing the same monster nests. A few character assassinations like Radovid, Avallac'h, Sile. And a shit ton of dropped storylines from Witcher 2

>>749025669
in fairness witcher 1 is a clunky piece of shit that hasn't aged well at all, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to play it
witcher 2 is borderline playable

>>749025553
>>749025681
I do like witcher 1 more than 2 but yeah, I agreed 2 has a better story but 1 has Siegfried, my best bro

>>749025734
I can play the game just fine, it looks nice, the soundtrack is the best in the series and I love Wyzima

>>749025546
Nta but to try & sum cuck elf up:
>got NTR'd by human male out of his waifu so he now eternally seeths about humans
>traps Ciri and says only way to get out is to get fucked by elven king and get him a baby
>he also tricks Geralt in finding Ciri so he can't
>Ciri finds out that he was full of shit as he was never to let her out
>what he wanted to do was get both Ciri and her baby to experiment on them
>tl;dr: fucker is literally FF7 Hojo except his backstory is getting cucked compared to Hojo who did the cucking
>Ciri even vows that the next time they meet she shall cut off his own head for everything he ha done to both her and Geralt
In conclusion: He was the true villain in the book. Not the elven king who was incompetent and was willing to let his own race die out over fuck human looking pussy. Not Eredin whose biggest crime was caring about the future of his people and how it will go nowhere with their king (which is why he gets rid of him). So, he did what had to be done as he had no choice in his position; get rid of king, try to get a hold of human whore to impregnate her. Avallac'h on another hand? He just does it out of spite because he is just eternally butthurt that he got cucked by a human.

>>749019309
I'm convinced anyone who thinks this never actually played the game. Or has no reading/listening comprehension.

>>749018176
>forcefully shove dijkstra out the way
>nope, actually break his non-lame leg instead

seriously what the fuck lol this wasnt even a glass him thing

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>scene opens with radovid playing chess with himself

>>749025929
This is hilarious, I need married elven pussy now

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>characters who did nothing wrong

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>>749025992
>scene opens with two kings playing chess with each other

>>749018382
fpbp
Radovid in Witcher 2 (if you save Triss at the end so she can pin the assassinations on the Lodge and limit the damage to civilians):
>Triss claims the Lodge conspired to kill kings. Arrest all Lodge members leave all the other mages alone
Radovid in Witcher 3:
>DURRRRRRRRRRRR KILL ALL MAGES DURRRRRRRRR WE ARE AT WAR WITH NILFGAARD WHO HAVE A FUCK TON OF MAGIC USERS BUT WE SHOULD DEPRIVE OURSELVES OF THIS ADVANTAGE

>>749021787
>There's not a single purge in human history that stayed focused on the original enemy.
Yeah, because most "purges" aren't iniated by the authorities, but by a riotous populace looking for an outlet. Purposely instigating social unrest is fucking retarded.
The way a non-schizo real world ruler would go about this is by taking out some key figure, dismantling the Lodges infrastructure, then putting remaining magic users under laws that define their future position (such as nbot meddling in politics). Top it off with coopting them into existing hierarchies like the military in positions taht clearly define what they have power over and what not and the matter is settled. The Milfgardians did just that, and it worked out beautifully for them, zero lodge influence there.
Going on a chaotic schizo rampage and making mortal enemies in the middle of a war while losing access to the utility of magic users is just the dumbest thing you can possibly do

>>749026051
>marries a decoy to subjugate a kingdom

>>749026120
I think they went too far with Radovid but is him growing more and more paranoid about magic users really that surprising or out of character? His entire character in the books is that of a young boy growing absolute hatred for a witch that orchestrated the death of his father, he doesn't have anything else going for him except this
I don't think becoming paranoid about magic in general, while in the biggest human war of all time, is that far fetched

the problem is they made Radovid too cool and collected in the Witcher 2, which is a symptom of the northern kings. they have like one flaw and are otherwise gigachads who can do no wrong

>>749018951
You can though, you're just too afraid to commit to not committing. You want to be involved with the supporting cast of pussies and adult babies because you feel left out otherwise. Don't blame the writing for your starvation for attention.
>Let Kiera go to Radovid
Who gives a shit? This bitch is an adult. You gave her a warning, which is far more than she deserved. DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH HER OR ANY SORCERESS, that shit is 100% automatic cuck behavior.
>Free The Whispering Hillock
Fuck Downwarren. Grown ass adults living like gypsies and listening to that stupid ass Elderman. That horse looks cool as shit.
>Spare Whoreson Junior
Killing him sounds non-cucked at first, right? WRONG! (You) aren't emotionally invested in this nigga or this city, let alone the fucking nobodies and literal whores this dude was chopping up. Get your information and leave it to the populace to figure their shit out, lazy fucks.
On a side note; fuck Dudu. Stupid ass nigga has quite possibly THE most advantageous innate genetic ability second only maybe to Ciri, and he needs Geralt's help and Whoreson's name to thrive off of it? Fucking loser. Fuck Warwick Davis.
>Abandon The Mages/Ignore Triss
Not my problem you fucking slut. You assholes never helped anybody but yourselves. Help yourselves now, if you can, I won't hunt you for staying alive, but get that ass smacked if you can't. Not like there's not a half-decent reason why you're being genocided. Use your magicka and make those bars disappear, homeboy.
>The Last Wish/Help Yennefer
Leavin' that shit unread, bitch. I know you're ugly as fuck underneath all that makeup and literal magic. Meanwhile your boy Geralt is au naturel, pardon my French. He deserves somebody who ain't a lazy, incompetent, scheming bitch.
>King's Gambit
LMAO, I ain't helpin' you or your cousin with shit, bitch. Where's Svanrige at? A man after my own heart right there. Shame there's no execution scene for Cerys and Hjalmar.

>>749026296
>wrath
radovid
>lust
foltest
>sloth
demavend
>greed
henselt
>envy
belohun

who else am i missing?

>>749019309
Someone who wanted to protect his country wouldn't tear it apart while literal monsters are swamping out to kill you all.
You can even excuse this dipshit of how he didn't know it's a Blight, because when Blight does get acknowledged as real (Howe himself says to him it's real after all), this dipshit still is far more concerned about Orlesian due to his own PTSD about them.
Imagine it like this: Your entire country is about to be nuked. You're fucked! It becomes evident every day just how fucked you are! What do you do? A) Find a way not to get nuked by putting this as your priority or B) (Loghain) Focus on country that invaded you long ago and that is too busy being gay, eating cheese, to even think about you.

Nope. He's giga retard. Cailan was garbage king that had kid mentality of always wanting to play while leaving his wife with actual work. He was a weak king. However, killing him and even letting MAJORITY OF MEN DIE WITH HIM because of your Orlesian autism makes him retarded! Him insisting on Orlesian, still ranting about them, when BLIGHT IS MORE THAN REAL just makes him the most retarded character in game!

Even the man himself acknowledges he was stupid as fuck in his blind hate for fantasy French that he ignored the real threat at the time (darkspawn). Enough said.

>>749022510
What the fuck did he think a huge army of Darkspawn that just wiped out the main army of his country is?

>>749026170
>most "purges" aren't iniated by the authorities, but by a riotous populace looking for an outlet
actually the stupidest post in this thread. Who the fuck do you think has the power and influence to ENACT a purge dipshit? Billy Jo down at the pub with his 20 friends??? Purges on the scale people are talking about cannot be done by anyone but the state because nobody else has resources and control like that. Civvies getting mad and mobbing up is nothing compared to a full on purge.

>>749026387
This. Rendon Howe literally tells Loghain's stupid ass that Blight is real after all and Loghain is just whatever. Even in Landsmeet he is still ranting off about French mostly. This is on pair with X account ranting about Trump when they aren't even American, all while their own country has problems unrelated to orange man.

>>749018951
>>749026359
>Reason of State
You're seeing the pattern, right? You should have never received this quest. IGNORE THESE NIGGAS, let Radovid win, who gives a fuck? He's a loser too in his own right, but ultimately it all has fuck all to do with you. Roche and his band of merry buttbuddies are the reason Radovid is even able to come into power to begin with. Their arrogance and ignorance lead to his window of opportunity. Just desserts.
>Ciri throwing a temper tantrum
Shut the fuck up, bitch.
>Visit Skjall's grave
It's dirt covering the body of a dead simp you fucking retard cumslut. Hard pass on that gay ass shit.
>Something Ends, Something Begins
Really the only quest where it's impossible for Geralt to not look like a humongous faggot. All the same, I roll Tragic every time. At the end of the day, Ciri dies (presumably) and you've rid a majority of the world of sorceresses. These are positive changes.
Write some headcanon as to why Gerald is crying like a little bitch to cover for it and you're good to go. Maybe he stubbed his toe, or is sad he never banged Ciri. Dumb as she was, still a decent piece of ass.
And just like that, wa la, uncucked Geralt. Maybe the real cucks were the friends you made along the way, you fat homo.

>>749026432
>Billy Jo down at the pub with his 20 friends???
If we look at historcial purges , then yes, it is Billy Jo indeed.
>anyone but the state
"the state" wasn't a thing until about 200 years ago, bud.
>Civvies getting mad and mobbing up is nothing compared to a full on purge.
That IS a purge, dingus. Its clear that you are fully historically illterate. Standing armies, police forces and all that have been a thing for maybe 200 years at the very most, and definitely not before modernity. And those institutions are the reasons why purges have barely happened since then outside of totalitarian shithoels like Russia. State-initiated purges are both the hallmark of doghit totalitairanism, and also tend to precisely hit only whom they mean to.

>>749024986
Absolutely wrong brainlet. Sorceresses and mages are 70% of the reason the North wasn't already raped and annexed by Nilfgaard by the start of the games. The witch hunts in 3 were deliberately instigated by Emhyr to destabilize the North and to remove one of their strongest advantages. Sorceresses like Triss saved the North by pulling magic out of their ass at key points like the Battle of Sodden Hill, and Philippa herself almost succeeded in managing to eliminate most Nilfgaard mages in 1 blow with conspiracies like the Thanedd Coup, but in the Witcher 3 Triss, Philippa, and other pro-North mages are stuck in hiding rather than fighting on the front lines because of the mage hunt retardation.
Actually this can all be blamed on CDPR's poor writing for 3. Without their mages, and with most of their kings dead, the North should have been easily steamrolled by default.

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>>749026387
Tbh I only had him survive because I was looking to get rid of Alistair and this was the only way.
Helps that he is also pretty chill guy once his autism about fantasy ~hon hons~ dies down.

>>749018176
Only children and children's stories revolve around good and evil because they need to be told what to think.

>>749026839
>Actually this can all be blamed on CDPR's poor writing for 3. Without their mages, and with most of their kings dead, the North should have been easily steamrolled by default.
this is an issue I have that goes beyond Radovid or whatever the fuck else
Why is the North aka just Redania and an annexed Kaedwen capable of putting up a fight against all of Nilfgaard while cutting off their own magic legs?

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He's literally me

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>>749024253
I'm sure it would be a common pastime if the whore didn't assassinate anyone close to building man portable firearms.

>>749027203
you ugly mother fucker, your mother sucks dwarf cock

>>749025669
NTA but I played through W1 twice. Never even bothered with 2 and never finished 3.

>>749025553
correct
i keep saying this and never understood the obsession with TW3, i guess its because it was casualized to hell and you don't need to play the other 2 games before it cause they forgot about those themselves anyway lol

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>>749019309
>>749026387
Loghain to me was very good character, but with very terrible writing of his motivation at the same time.
The issue with Loghain compared to TW3's Radovid is that Loghain himself isn't shit written character. His initial motivation isn't even that bad. King truly was retarded faggot and at the time there wasn't true indicator that this was true Blight other than 1 Warden said so. Even said Warden was just feeling "it might be" over 100% is. Worse is that the king himself didn't believe this to be a Blight. Which makes it even worse from Loghain's perspective as he was wasting such huge manpower of their country, even trying to ally himself with enemy one, for something he didn't even believe was a true threat. He was just doing it because he wanted to play with Wardens kek. From Loghain's perspective, up to this point, he was kind of justified in why he wanted this fucker to go. You can kind of get his point of why he would fuck off, taking as many men as he could with him to leave retard king die instead of waste even more manpower on a war that said king doesn't even think it's real.

The issue with Loghain starts when Blight is more than confirmed, yet he still acts like it's just minor inconvenience. Even worse is that in big debate against him, his rants aren't even about trying to unite country fast to deal with Blight as much as it's uniting the country due to threat of French fags who aren't even at war with them........ NIGGA!!!??? What in the fuck!
This right here is why any defence for Loghain will always fall flat. You can try to make arguments and excuses for him at start, but not at this point. At this point writing for him makes no fucking sense.

>>749021675
the opposite actually

>>749024395
the only good dryad is a dead one

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>>749027520
Hello? Based department? Yeah we got one

Incel thread

>>749027085
Redania is Witcherverse's version of Poland so it's probably just misplaced wish fulfillment of the scrappy underdog nation beating the powerful empire even though it shits all over the established lore of the North only being able to win against Nilfgaard when they put their differences aside to work together.

Also, looking back, I've come to the conclusion that the only reason interesting characters like Radovid received a lobotomy, was so that the writers could insert in allegories against religion by bringing in the Church of Eternal Fire as a strawman to attack Christianity and organized religion with. Witcher 2 Radovid would not work in Witcher 3's story, because the very fact that 2's Radovid was willing to spare innocent mages, and to only punish those who were found guilty, would have prevented the writers from portraying him as an absolute lunatic with no nuance in 3. In the next gen update for the Witcher 3 they added an entire quest (In the Eternal Fire's Shadow) whose sole purpose seemed to just involve shitting on religion. I'm very worried that Witcher 4 is going to have similarly retarded takes.

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>>749027520
nah

>>749027723
>would have prevented the writers from portraying him as an absolute lunatic with no nuance in 3
What, mustache twirling witch hunter named Menge(le) wasnt a hint?

>>749026363
henselt is more complex than just "greed"

>>749019293
Custom characters are objectively better than set protagonists for this reason, yes

>>749026051
He let his whore daughter go on her "fining yourself journey" instead of preparing her retarded cumslut ass to fucking rule over biggest empire in their world. Then he gets the people responsible for his daughter disappearance to search for her while he sits in a cuck chair.

>>749025231
>Alienates allies leaving his country weak
>Terrorizes his own innocent citizens because of paranoia
>Killing him results in better outcomes than letting him live
You are objectively wrong and stupid and your mom is ugly.

>>749027913
i'd like to see him try and keep her around when she is teleporting around

>>749028001
>>Killing him results in better outcomes than letting him live
yes because they took the cowards way out, if Stennis was a witcher 3 character, he would have dragged Aedirn into ruin and grown to be a miserable piece of shit like Radovid

>>749028001
I don't think Radovid ever gave one single shit about his citizens, the same as any other ruler in the Witcher setting
>b-but muh Foltest remembered the names of his soldiers

How is he a villain? My read on him is that he is perfectly normal and either accidentally or intentionally written as someone it makes sense for you to kill. It is just all the people you deal with. has have some personal reason for the dude to be dead.

>>749027468
Yes. While I don't exactly agree with Loghain in what he did, what he did also wasn't without logic when you take his perspective into an account and how all of it looks.
From his perspective they were wasting huge resources, leaving themselves vulnerable, on a supposed war that might not even exist, that not even the king believes exist, all so the king can complete his dream fantasy of fighting alongside Wardens.
Loghain during these events? Makes absolute sense. Loghain near end of the game and at Landsmeet? Absolute schizo retard.

>>749025424
He's an ugly middle aged man in witcher 2 as well just slimmer

>>749019875
>Temeria is notFrance
Toussaint?

>>749028097
If the Witcher 3 had any damn continuity with 2 at all, the Lodge would still be running Vergen as one of the last Northern strongholds against Nilfgaard and Stennis would be either a puppet or killed for getting in the way. Sile and Philippa have a fucking dragon in Saskia; what the hell can Nilfgaard do against that? And if Geralt spared Henselt rather than letting Roche go on a power trip, it would be Kaedwen, Aedirn, and Vergen working together to kill Nilfgaardians. There was absolutely zero reason for CDPR to remove so many story points just to make it easier for players to side with Nilfgaard.

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>>749027203

They can just use the CGI model in the Remake. It looks perfect

>>749027476
T. Leninist

>>749028216
>From his perspective they were wasting huge resources, leaving themselves vulnerable, on a supposed war that might not even exist, that not even the king believes exist, all so the king can complete his dream fantasy of fighting alongside Wardens.
Then why didnt he openly denounce the king before the fight? Or better yet, why did he accompany the king? Did he think letting the king die while acting as a regent would somehow save country from a supposedly sham Blight force and the possibility of Orlesian invasion?

>>749027203
>>749028432
they nailed his look in Witcher 1

>>749025553
Nope. DLC's for 3 were best. Not having to have a political cosmic stake at the center of the story really helped I think.

>>749027468
Loghain basically underwent Radovid's whole saga in one game.
First he went from someone whose betrayal made sense due to everything presented. To schizo who screeches about country that isn't even at the war with them now. Imagine having your country right now being raped by literal hell spawns with their army growing each seconds with them using bodies of your people and you are still like: "Nah, Orlesian who aren't even attacking us right now are much bigger issue and should take absolute priority."

>>749028310
Not him, but I blame it more on Polish devs being unable to make twinks. Eredin supposedly was giga chad to the point Ciri wanted his dick unironically. Eredin in game looks like Skyrim's unmodded elf.
The closest they were to making better looking dudes in pretty way was with TW2's male elves.

>>749028656
>Hearts of Stone
baby's first "deal with the devil" story and actually not even a good iteration of it
>Blood and Wine
murder mystery that climaxes into nothing because the devs ran out of ideas and starting throwing random shit at the wall like jack and the beanstalk

>>749028558
This is why I said I don't exactly agree with his actions, just that one can understand where he was coming from.
>you are already wasting too much manpower as it is
>you are fighting a war that nobody knows if it's real
>the king himself says he doesn't believe it's real and just due it as jerk off because he wants to fight with Wardens
>now there is a signal for your own men to come in among which who knows how many will die
>all just so your king can jerk off
As for other things why didn't he denounce the king: his daughter is the Queen.
Why did he come: His father was his friend and he still had a duty to come. I don't believe that his betrayal was a planned thing at all. You can even see it in the cutscene. You can see him watching and thinking before he says "Sound the retreat." If you also went around the camp and talked to army men, they also state that Loghain is close to snapping due to the king not listening to anything Loghain suggests. So, yea, this certainly wasn't in Loghain's plan book all along. It's clear this came off as his last thought when he was watching "war" unfold and his men got called to be next.
Loghain's actions perhaps weren't wisest, but at least there was a good reason for it unlike him later on in which they made him just a schizo who acknowledges Blight, but is scared of Orlesians (who aren't attacking) way more.

>>749029226
>murder mystery that climaxes into nothing because the devs ran out of ideas and starting throwing random shit at the wall like jack and the beanstalk
yup it went from slow paced investigation into muh ancient vampire cave booohoooooo and then into city is under attack oh nooo geralt save us and then into lame bossfight
like wtf???

>>749028558
He didn't plan for it originally. It came at last moment because all the evidence shows that this was something he felt as right at that moment. He didn't join the army with the plans to betray the king. He did so upon what he felt was his limit as king has done nothing but be unserious about this all and treating this war as his chance to play with Wardens.
He also probably still felt conflicts about this being the son of his best friend as well as the husband to his daughter before he said fuck it to all.

Ostagar Loghain makes sense. Not that he was right, just that he made sense. Even if you don't agree with him, you can tell why. For Loghain at that point, you can say he just did what he thought was best to do at his country at that time.
>save yourself and as many men that you can from what looks like a foolish war
The problem is Loghain past Blight being confirmed as real. It's not even that he thinks that they can beat it without Wardens since Wardens are homos who don't want to say why they are needed (plus, have terrible track record of not being too trust worthy), it's that he is talking about war that doesn't exist himself!
Darkspawn are raping your men and country, but you talk about imaginary scenario of 'what if' baguette were to attack? This is your priority while the other thing is just secondary? You have 80% of your map already raped, tainted, burned, turned into monsters; yet he still argues about baguette that are not even in their attack mode? This is where it all falls apart and where you can't make a single excuse for him.

>>749029226
>baby's first "deal with the devil" story
Not first but just taken directly from the polish version of it.

>>749030012
They should have stuck with their original "pact with devil" plotline revolving around the Catriona Plague, Iorveth, and Roche. The original story outline for Witcher 3 was way better. What we got was hollywood-tier slop instead.

>>749028558
He says himself it was not something he ever had in plan. Originally he came because he was obligated to only to realize that Cailan was a fucking imbecile living in his own dreamland no matter what he said. Which didn't help his schizotism about Orlesian since Cailan was calling for them after large number of their own men got dead or wounded. Take in note that Cailan didn't believe this was Blight at all. Meaning, their own men were dying for nothing and Cailan was giving a green flag to large number of your past enemy troops to come in when they are their weakest. We can say that he was paranoid due to his ptsd, but at the same time you can see why a war veteran, who saw Orlesians do the worst to his country, that fought against him, might have an issue to see large troops of them coming to "rescue" when they were at their weakest. Which is why Loghain at this point was understandable in his actions. Not smartest, wisest, or in the right, but understandable. He was perfect flawed character at that moment. Someone you can tell was wrong, thought with his emotions, but reasonable of where his own logic was coming from. By the endgame, all of this is lost and he gets turned into a caricature. He regains his shit if you let him live & gives even better perspective on himself, but the argument of "he just did it for his country" is completely lost once Loghain becomes aware that Blight was real, yet he still rants about Orlesians.

>>749021675
They helped free haitians and are thus responsible for the genocide commited there

>>749018176
>villain is evil because he's a genuine schizo who lets childhood abuse overwhelm his reason leading to 10 useful and loyal people dying while 1 traitor escapes and keeps fucking shit up undeterred
ftfy
still a better king that every other northerner, mind you

>>749018940
>Honestly he arguably had a point when it came to the sorceresses, from what I remember from the books they are unironically manipulating the Northern Kingdoms
He literally does not have a point. Setting's lore is pretty clear about casters routinely unionizing into international political organizations explicitely acknowledged as pseudosovereign by the other kingdoms.
There's no conspiracy going on, the casters are just playing politics like every other faction and he's only seething mad about them in particular because the blind cunt bullied him when he was a kid.

>>749026387
>You can even excuse this dipshit of how he didn't know it's a Blight, because when Blight does get acknowledged as real
Let's be real though, does it even matter if ferelden is dealing with an actual blight when the alternative is still a fucking horde of pestilent monsters in numbers large enough to require the whole country to rise up to deal with them?
He never had a case to begin with, nevermind when he decided that half the country's army and leaving the southern regions open for slaughter was an acceptable price to pay for a change of regime. Like what the fuck nigger, just hire a crow and give him privileged access

>>749028558
If you played the game, paid attention, or even talked to the man himself a few times, you'd get your answer. Anyway, Anon's point was that while his course of action was wrong and flawed, he had the sense of some logic backing it up. At least from his perspective.

The issue with Loghain is that writers didn't know how to make him work once the Blight was known. So, they just played on his PTSD to be schizo about not-French to not make him sense in his debate against you. It would be easier if he was a power-hungry asshole who just wanted the throne. However, he isn't. Especially if you put him through ritual, it becomes clear that not once did he think about the throne itself. His bitch daughter pretty much played you about it. Which makes everything worse, as his motivation was trying to protect his country, but this doesn't make sense with these actions once the threat of blight is clear. It's like the writer who wrote his character at the start and as playable wasn't the same as the one that was writing him at the other half of the game. There isn't a single good or sound reason for any of his actions past Blight being a known threat. Not one. The fact that the character himself finds his actions there as stupid and shortsighted tells you all.

TL;DR: Loghain underwent what Radovid's character did, but in a single game.

>>749032746
The issue is that his betrayal wasn't planned at all. It was in the moment of rage after Cailan was testing his patience for months. Final straw being that he was inviting enemy country troops in their own country as allies when their own men were at the weakest. He even gives perspective on this himself.

I won't now repeat other posts too much, but as it's been stated: His actions, while not the smartest, did have a reasoning behind it over him just wanting Cailan to die. From his point of view men were dying all over for something that Cailan himself didn't consider a true threat (Blight). He watched men die, with his being next, for something that the king himself didn't even think as a war, just an opportunity to be next to Wardens. Was retreating and leaving retard king to die a smart move? Absolutely not. However, at the same time it's hard to fault him too much at least at that point.

Past it? His actions don't make sense. Especially since I said, he wasn't power-hungry for the throne, nor cared about it much at all. Meaning, he was just being unreasonable faggot just for the sake of it because he preferred his country to be ripped apart by darkspawn then even entertain the thought of French fags helping them. I mean, I don't blame them since French both real and fantasy aren't people, but still... At least he could've put a blindfold until it's all over. Besides, French helping = more French dead than your own countrymen. At least he could've justified it as that for himself, but no. Can't do that.

>>749033610
>From his point of view men were dying all over for something that Cailan himself didn't consider a true threat (Blight). He watched men die, with his being next, for something that the king himself didn't even think as a war, just an opportunity to be next to Wardens.
The thing is that this doesn't match at all what you see in the game (as far as I remember ot anyway). The battle was going to plans before Loghain left: the king and the wardens were keeping the enemies pinned down abd primed to be pincered, only to be abandoned and overrun.
I never got the impression that there was any point in Loghain leaving other than killing the king at the cost of half the army and the souther regions.
You may minimize his actions as "not the smartest" if you want, but to me they feel every bit as nonsensical as everything he did afterwards. There's no incoherence in his writing, it's laughably shit throughout.

>>749019309
>Let's fight ourselves and kill representatives of the group literally required for our win condition against the monsters
He was right about fighting at Ostagar and the Orlesians but everything else was retarded

>>749034328
fighting at Ostagar being stupid*

>>749018940
>>749022995
After reading the books is hard to not hate every sorcerer and sorceress except Yenn and that guy from SoS that helped Geralt.

>>749034105
Nta: Jobbing 1 second after Loghain leaves kind of contradicts it was going well bro. Especially when all of them were unaware that Loghain left them. It took them 1 second to job!
Even if Loghain deployed his army dumb king would still die because unless they were all on Sonic speed, there is no way they would drop on time before that ogre did what it did. Duncan might've lived because he kind of went to his death when king died and he saw the signal was lit, but Loghain was nowhere near. Perhaps if Loghain did help, Duncan perhaps would've lived. Even he is in perhaps area as he was already wounded and it's still assuming that the men managed to reach him on time.
I personally am not minimizing shit. I'm just saying that with Loghain or without him, the king at very least is cooked 100%.

>>749034730
>Jobbing 1 second after Loghain leaves kind of contradicts it was going well bro
what a stupid post

>>749019324
Most of them are not actually that powerful. Remember the people who Triss is trying to smuggle out of Novigrad? That's your typical magic user. The ones who can straight-up teleport at will are the really powerful ones. And even they can be surprised and jumped.

>>749024395
she takes small shriveled druid cock

Not completely related to Radovid's craziness, but it's insanely funny that most of the powerful wizards/sorcerers managed to avoid his purge almost entirely because of Philippa's misandry (she refused to let any men into the Lodge)

>>749035069
Thats because there arent any powerful male mages left, almost all of them die in Thanedd (Gerhart, Terranova, Fercart) or later in the stories (Vilgefortz), or just become Nilfgaard puppets

>>749034828
Not really. Your response is stupid though as you have no arguments. Entire wars aren't lost in just 1 second. Especially when the king died in that timespan as well.
I dare say this would be even worse outcome for us. We ourselves could garner support due to Loghain being a traitor and us proving it. Without Loghain betraying, the entire country would blame Wardens for the death of the king and this time you wouldn't have Loghain to blame since it was your job to protect him and he got Shrek'd. Again, do take in note that king's death before Duncan even notices they were left. Just few minutes after Loghain left. There is literally nothing that would've stopped this event from happening. Loghain or no Loghain, the king gets Shrek'd.

>>749018176
How close to the books are characters handled in the Witcher games?
I've heard the first two games butcher the characterizations a bit, but Witcher 3 gets a lot closer to book characterizations (but with leeway in order to make the first 2 games still work). Is that accurate or did I get misinformation?

>>749034719
Tbf, they did risk their lives at the Battle of Sodden Hill. Triss got barbecued so bad they couldn't even identify her, if the sorcereresses were all cunts she would have just dipped the moment things started looking bad.

>>749034730
>Jobbing 1 second after Loghain leaves kind of contradicts it was going well
>even fit becauses one sided when half an army leaves
No shit. It's almost like being focused on by the whole enemy army for the sake of having it become vulnerable to flanking is only a good plan when your second in command actually flanks instead of retreating.
>Even if Loghain deployed his army dumb king would still die
All the more reason for Loghain to charge, that way he'd have achieved his objective while also clearing the monsters instead of sacrificing half the army and the southern regions.

>>749034828
He's right though on sole fact that the king died before any army could reach them on time. That alone is the worst outcome. Especially for Wardens who are heavily mistrusted (for a good reason) and Cailan was their biggest support. You really think that Warden's wouldn't be blamed for king's demise? At best, Duncan might get sole blame for failing to protect the king due to that being his duty. At worst, Wardens would get all exiled yet again.

>>749035510
I think Yen got sort of shafted in the game vs the books, they have her regular dynamic with Geralt but they do a really poor job of explaining the context so it just looks like she's being a cunt to him for no reason.

>>749035624
Read else. The part that the king dies no matter what in particular. Unless Loghain's man know teleportation to teleport in mere seconds next to the king, then the king Charming is still meeting Shrek.
This isn't about Loghain, his motivations, blah blah blah, so on. It to point that king is fucked no matter what and if the king is fucked then you lost niggers. You lost bigly. Especially if the king was the only thing to keep army at Ostagar for so long because every other nigger at Ostagar was tired of this shit.

>>749019324
>how did Radovid manage to hunt them without getting offed with a curse
Plot armor basically.
In the same book you have half a dozen witches nuking an army to ashes and a whole academy of them being raped to death by a handful of retards.
The Witcher's magic runs on plot requirements.

>>749022907
I can't comment on books or other games, I've only played the third game, but yeah Dijkstra was extremely disappointing because in W3 he was by far my favorite character and then the game basically outright forces you to kill him for being a complete braindead nigger retard.

>>749035693
I see. Maybe they needed a couple extra flashback scenes to show their dynamic more

>>749035820
>The Witcher's magic runs on plot requirements.
Yeah, also Geralt is either a machine capable of mowing down entire army companies by himself (the bridge battle in Baptism of Fire) or just a guy with nightvision who can be overpowered by like 3 dudes

>>749035639
>>749035817
It's kind of funny to think that Loghain's biggest headache would solve itself on its own. Would be better outcome for him too because he could now have a legit reason to pin it all on Wardens while having his hands clean because it was their duty to babysit the king and they couldn't do it properly. kek

Fuck it, Yen or Triss

SHANIFAGS BEGONE

>>749035817
>Read else. The part that the king dies no matter what in particular
I literally addressed that part in my post? The fucking irony
>if the king is fucked then you lost niggers
This isn't chess. An army seeing its foe getting assraped by friendlies isn't going to break because the king was killed.

>>749036108
Honestly they're both pretty bad for Geralt. Poor guy needs to settle down with a nice normal girl like Essi Daven or hell maybe Cerys (even if she is a bit young for him).

>>749036127
>An army seeing its foe getting assraped by friendlies isn't going to break because the king was killed.
But it will get Wardens in hot water the moment there is a room to breath because guess whose duty it was to protect this giga retard? Loghain wasn't our fan. Army men themselves only tolerated us due to the king. Now imagine the body of the king being returned. Who do you think will everyone start naming? Wardens aren't exactly popular as it is. Add dead king on their watch to the record when you have Loghain being no.1 anti-fan, and we are back to "Wardens killed the king" baby.
The worst is that you will still have arguments over the throne due to Anora being childless and a commoner that king married. Eamon would need to give up his portion, but the issue is that Eamon might still want to use Alistair because he isn't too happy to let Anora rule. We would still have retards arguing over this shit while Blight is ongoing because Anora puts her daddy to shame when it comes to him. If he did things due to bad judgement, then she does it just because she wants the throne and will sell out everyone (her father included) to get it.

>>749018176
Witcher 3 just ignores the previous games almost completely, it makes replaying the entire trilogy feel pointless.

>>749034719
The wizards are literally the Illuminati of the witcherverse, it's spelled out pretty clearly, at least in the cucked northern kingdoms.

>>749036108
Kill yourself.

>>749036572
>But it will get Wardens in hot water the moment there is a room to breath
So what? This has nothing to do with the discussion we're having
If anything it's even more reason for Loghain to fight, since he hates the wardens

>>749034719
As one anon put it: They are literally fantasy jews. Manipulate everything from the side, betray all, then play woe is me whenever someone remotely mentions them.

>>749029479
And all of that was pure fanfiction by the devs.
>higher vampires are an ancient and superior race
.except this one that has the mental stability and intelligence of a 14 year old girl
>and somehow can summon an entire army of lesser vampires out of nowhere
You're trying to tell me all these monsters that would be responsible for killing ~100 humans per year were always living around this area and somehow didn't kill everyone?

People who say B&W plot and writing were good have sub 100IQ.

>>749036751
No, discussion's we're having (with me at least) are the ones that both king and Wardens get fucked no matter what. Worst for Wardens because with Loghain helping, there goes your guy to clean your own name. Then what? Wardens get exiled to who the fuck knows where again. Meanwhile, Blight drops and everyone gets raped because 1) they think they can do it and 2) it will take time to get Wardens back to deal with this shit and it will probably only happen when everyone gets hard raped. Far worse than main game.
As someone else said it above: Your best bet is that Duncan gets most blame for protecting the king and that it somehow won't spread to other Wardens. Which it will. 100% will because it hardly stays just on 1 man to blame for something as this.

>>749037042
>failing to protect*
I hate phone posting

>>749035835
Dijkstra was one of the smartest characters. There is no way that actual Dijkstra would ever do something as stupid as trying to make Geralt kill the man that literally saved his life. If his issue was Roche, he would deal with him in a way that makes it look like the enemy did it. That way he could garner Geralt's own support with ease. They fucked Dijkstra hard in this game.

>>749037042
>No, discussion's we're having (with me at least) are the ones that both king and Wardens get fucked no matter what.
I think you've confused me with another anon then, because I never talked about anything other than whether Loghain's behaviour makes sense from his own perspective. Which it doesn't.

Witcher 1 had the best atmosphere. I'll forever love it the most despite its real flaws.
https://youtu.be/z5NrSy32geM

This guy was completely ruined from Witcher 2...so was Roche, so was Letho, so was Eredin (I'm talking about his version in Witcher 1).

The pattern is Witcher 3 sucks, the game was written by vastly inferior writers who had no idea what to do with existing characters or how to finish the trilogy and all the things that were set up (Geralt being a rider of the hunt not even mentioned)

>>749022510
So he really is retarded then? Because everything in the game pointed to a real blight and let's not forget he's directly responsible for Howe and the slaughtering of the Couslands. He didn't just betray his king, he betrayed the whole country just to secure his barren daughter the throne.

>>749037373
funny that the worst witcher game was also the most successful

>>749021787
There are only a dozen or so number of witches in witcher, so your analogy is flawed. Don't try to sound smart when you are stupider than a mole.

>>749018176
You know this guy is evil because he's bald

>>749023915
and Dijkstra would never fucking walk into the same room as someone who he wants dead, especially if they're a Witcher

Going from Witcher 2 to Witcher 3 feels like going from GoT season 1 to season 7 (story wise)

>>749024506
>people are still confused about the fucking "illusion" and are still unable to comprehend a physical transformation

>>749035835
Dijkstra in books was smart as hell. Bro too. Before this game he had his misadventures with elf called Isengrim. Best I can describe you that one is who Iorveth was meant to be before devs changed his name because they felt like Isengrim in TW2 wouldn't make sense.
Anyway, Dijkstra would never make such a retarded move as he did in the game. He wasn't the man to take any risk or a chance. If there was a risk or a chance that Geralt might not help him due to his own relationship with Roche, then there is no chance in hell that Dijkstra would ever suggest something as killing Roche so openly. He would do it in a way that frames someone else, while keeping himself as unsuspecting party.

>>749037824
Either that, or he would simply wait until Geralt left. For him to try to kill Roche *in front of Geralt* is beyond stupid.

>>749025681
Also, Witcher 3 is a sequel to the books, not to Witcher 2 which is its greatest sin.

>>749018176
>modern gamedev butchered a reasonable white male character
not at all uncommon

>>749037373
I don't know what the thought process with Letho was. Guy was such a formidable villain, both his endings were perfect. His last words were let it go and we won't ever see each other again..
Now he's just a checkmark in a stupid marvel cameo jerk off sessio and he dies. I was really angry at this game

>>749036108
>bestgirlfags stop flaunting an objectively better girl noooooooo

>>749037897
It's hilarious how badly they handled him. TW3 was terrible with schemer characters in general. Radovid being the most infamous example.

>>749025681
Witcher 2 would be the best if only it had been completed. It was rushed and it was missing a chapter, it originally had four chapters. Witcher 1 really feels complete, it's like a great journey that's well thought out and feels like everything had a place, it was all leading to something.
Witcher 3 is just ass desu, not even going into detail about why it doesn't work.

>>749028216
Ah yes, the logical conclusion to all the villages being sacked and raided by literal darkspawn is to abandon a huge portion of the populations fighting force to die to said darkspawn, because they aren't a real threat, instead of just fighting them. The logical conclusion of wasting time, resources and men on an attack you won't follow through, with your men dying in the tower after you let literal darkspawn in. He made so much sense that the darkspawn took over the entire country aside from major cities but that's okay because Loghain hasn't personally spotted the Archdemon.

>>749037373
>Geralt being a rider of the hunt not even mentioned
How will it be mention when Eredin was made into cartoon villain with breeder kink and other riders are even more one note.
Seomeone already mentioned Avallac'h and how ignored his past transgressions were even though he was undisputably the true villain in all this.

>>749037373
Everyone from previous games was ruined or randomly killed off like Kalkstein

>>749037672
witcher 3 is still an enjoyable game despite it's shortcomings. witcher 4 will be a humiliation ritual for anyone who ever cared about the franchise.

>>749029240
So he chooses to let the large amount of army under the king die instead so he can have less people to defend his home against the supposed Invaders? He chooses to waste time and money on something he doesn't want to do instead of telling his King "No.", he's patriotic until it actually makes him lose his position, he's a hypocrite of the highest order.

>>749021675
Polish people committed the Danzig massacres that started a world war killing tens of millions of Europeans and led to Jewish global hegemony.

>>749037283
>>749022907
In the first place Dijkstra's appearance in the game makes no sense, the last scene with him in the books is when he's running the fuck away, far away from the northern kingdoms, to where no one knows who he was.

And what about Triss, how does it make sense that someone read the books and then turned her into an inspiring revolutionary leader of "the ressitance"

>>749038704
Funny thing is that devs scrapped Isengrim from the second game (they just renamed character Iorveth instead) for this exact same reason. Then TW3 went fuck it and included Dijkstra who was on the same run as him. They don't even attempt to make up some story or a reason for why is he here. No mention of what happened when he was escaping with his once enemy-turned-bro, nothing.

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Is there a reason for choosing his path in Witcher 2?

>>749039142
He literally helped you? If anything, picking Iorveth seems weirder out of the two and this comes from someone who did prefer Iorveth.

>>749039142
For Temeria

>>749018176
Who said he's evil. He's just a bit mad.

>>749039142
>why would you choose a guy who literally helped you which made him a fugitive all because he's the first person to believe you didn't kill Foltest vs murder elf that works with the guy who did kill the king and that has you framed for it
Seriously, anon?

>>749039142
because the other path is shorter, explains less and is way more lame

>>749039302
>>749039546
>>749039746
Ves gets raped

>>749040219
ok

>>749040219
*unzips dick* Go on...

>>749040181
iorveth path has some cool drwarf interactions and also 'lesbomancy', but yes, Roche is superior

>>749040219
I mean, you asked is there a reason for choosing his path. The answer was that he made a sense from Geralt's POV as he owed him compared to siding with sketchy elf that has tried killing you and works with the guy you were hunting. From Geralt's POV, Roche seems like the only choice compared to Iorveth. Even if you cared about non-humans, Iorveth at that point in the game is too coocoo and just comes across as average bloodthirsty Scoia'tael. Even Yaevinn in TW 1 who is pure piece of shit came off as someone who is more reasonable on that side. Iorveth? Until you choose him, spend som time with this crazy fuck to grow on you, he is just lunatic.

>>749040219
Anon, Roche was literally whoring her out now and then as part of the job. Who cares as such.

>>749040621
squeaked like a hinge. or something

>>749018176
I really hate how basically nothing you choose from Witcher 1 or 2 carries over to 3. Adda and Anais? Saskia and Iorveth? Never show up.

>>749040457
Yaevinn is just average Scoia'tael, no worse than the rest. The worst you can find on him is him killing nurses until he realized they were treating all, but that's it. His crimes are standard for one of squirrels.
Iorveth in comparison is much more worse as he took personal joy in those he hurt. Even mocking the ones he killed, or human women his boys might've raped. Yaevinn just hates humans in standard way. He doesn't take personal joy in what he does exactly.

I don't hate Iorveth, just saying that if you are to moral police Yaevinn as "pure piece of shit" for his actions, then what does that make the likes of Iorveth? Or even elven golden boy Isengrim? None of their actions is any better than his, if not, they've done much worse with no regret.

>>749027476
>>749038587
Ok Ivan.

>>749031829
And the Haitans loved them for it.
They received the honorary titles of "white negroes of europe" for it and it's easy for a pole to acquire haitian citizenship.

>>749027540
You need to have above 100IQ to understand sarcasm.

>>749039142
Why would you choose a dipshit elf over a guy that actually was good to you?

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>>749024039
I am watching the video that sums up the changes, and most of this shit is even dumber and more inane than what they ended up with. It actually could have been so much worse.
Also crazy knowing that the ultimate contrivance of the sabbath happening right after the battle at Kaer Morhen and Imlerith being there was already planned since the beginning, and the "White Frost is Galactus" plot point was also there since the start.
Awful.

>>749042056
The choice isn't between Roche and Iorveth. The choice is between Triss and Temerian politics.

finally a witcher 2 appreciation thread

saskia sucks smelly peasant cock and stennis was right in everything

>>749018176
His subplot in Witcher 3 was the only dogshit part in the game. It just felt like virtue signaling against something.

I want to have sex with Philipa's voice

>>749043604
JOI so bad it made Radovid blind her years later

Chadovid was completely right about the Lodge and how witches & wizards try to manipulate the world. Nilfgaard leashes their wizards for that very same reason. Geralt himself wasn't on the Lodge's side since they wanted to install a Queen/Empress Ciri to rule as their puppet. he was like NO WAY BITCHES when they ran that by him (also why Yen ends up betraying the Lodge as she started to view Ciri as their daughter)
Radovid just didn't make any distinction between the average herbalists and actual arcane magic wielders so he went HARD.

>>749019293
You can have gay marriages and adopt in Skyrim its woke trash.

>>749039142

To make him look like a fucking hypocrite. He begins the game blasting you for being part of Foltest's murder, he ends the game having committed regicide himself against Henselt.

>>749028558
>Then why didnt he openly denounce the king before the fight?
He did explicitly have a massive argument with him before the fight, inside of a command tent. The witness telling the story says that it was more like a shouting match. You don't denounce a king publicly if you like to keep your head on your shoulders. So you must have never played the game and just regurgitate shit written in these threads.

>>749028001

>Can't handle the fact that the bitch Sorceress who ruined Chadovid's childhood and manipulated his country dies horribly trying to do the same thing to Nilfgaard

The Lodge deserved everything it got.

>>749043560
>It just felt like virtue signaling against something.
it was, but it's incomprehensible for not Poles
tl;dr
>irl "right-wing" are puppets of USA
>irl "left-wing" and Liberals are puppets of Germany in opposition to PIS which is "right-wing"
>Redania is a conservative notPoland
>Nilfgaard is a globohomo notGermany
>Always left leaning Witcher devs drift even further left by the time of W3, since everyone around the world is radicalizing one way or another
>Nilfgaard gets massively whitewashed in W3 compared to W2 for this reason
>Everything related to Redania and Radovid is flanderized and shat on to the point next to nobody will side with schizo Radovid
This fucks over choices in games because devs can't separate irl politics from fantasy world and projected them onto it. Even regular soldiers of Redania are insufferable retards in game in dumb ambient dialogue for this reason.
Radovid was a cool character but he was used as an anti-polish vehicle by liberal devs basically. This is why he was ruined to be a dumb schizo to be killed in one random sidequest. While Temeria joining globohomo empire is a good ending