How to start this fucking franchise? There are infinite debates around this topic.I believe starting off with 0 is a mid-tier idea.Are Kiwamis worth it? Maybe Kiwami 1 only?What do we think?
>>749023429fucking faggot. start with the first game, retard.
>>749023429>How to start this fucking franchise? in release order from the og games if you are not retardedif you like it just keep playing more, skip games you don't like>There are infinite debates around this topic.there's literally two answers: start with 0 if you can't stand ps2 uncslop and then go with the remakes or start with release order
>>749023429I usually start with one when counting
release order or fuck off
>>749023731>>749023804>>749023683so the remakes are dogshit?I don't want to play on PC
>>749023991god damn it you motherfuckin bitch, JUST SHUT UP AND START THE GAME.
>>749023429Release order, start with Yakuza 1 on the PS2 via the Restored patch (adds back the JP dub, fixes early games localization names, etc.)https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1791118704204389.webm
1-5, 0, Kiwami 1, 6, LaD, and then have Gaiden be your last game and do not touch anything else.
>how to stattThe answer is always release order
>>749024163>>749024365>>749024163>>749024365>removing the kino soundtrackis there any remake better than the original at this pointty will try the restored patch
>>749023429Play 0 to get accustomed to the yakuza game structure then play judgment
>>749024262no spinoff?
>>749023429If you´re lazy, start with the ORIGINAL Yakuza Zero, NOT the god-awful "Directors Cut" versioni, and see if it´s your cup of tea.Then play through rest of them in the chronological order.If you are not an ADHD zoom zoom, then start with the original 2005 Yakuza 1, and play through them all in release order.ALL Kiwa-MEH re-releases suck ass. No exceptions.Luckily, OGs are available on GOG, and easy to emulate. Restoration mods and patches are a plenty online.
>>749025653Directors cut is superior due to having a proper save system
>>749023429Only 0 and Judgement are worth playing. Every sequel you play after these will be disappointing.
>>749023429Just start from the beginning are you retarded
>>749023429Just play all the Dragon Engine games + 4 and 5. Watch the cutscenes from the first 2 on YouTube. 3 can be skipped entirely
>>749027383The original has a fully functioning save system, that also plays a crucial role:it makes you explore and move from point to point, very similar to classic survival horror, exposing you to fights AND even side quests.The "save anywhere" + autosave slop is a pure cancer.
>>749023429Start with 0 or I'll beat you with a stick
>>749027570You could not be more homosexual even if you tried. Dragon Engine jank is THE worst garbage in this franchise, 1-2 are must play, and 3 is underrated as fuck.
>>749027808>Yakuza>Survival horror You're a fucking retard
>>749028036>iPhone zoomer has trouble following a basic, nonlinear sentence structureToo many such cases. Truly horrifying!No son, I did NOT claim Y0 to be a survival horror.I´m saying that just like the pre-placed "save rooms" of Resident Evil, Y0 OG´s save-spots also make the player move and plan their actions more carefully. Hell, you even manage your inventory at the phone booths, ffs!ON TOP OF THIS, the game utilizing the typical search of the nearest save-spot in order to slip players new side quests.
>>749023429>How to start this fucking franchise?Release order if you want to have the series evolve naturally and see how you're intended to enjoy it.Modern order starting with 0 if you want a strong initial game but jump all over the place in writing quality, expectations, substory quality, and gameplay mechanics.If you understand Japanese 1&2 HD on PS3 replace 1 and 2 as they are the definitive versions with minor quality of life improvements and visual improvements with no downsides.If you don't understand Japanese you use 1 and 2 Restored on PS2 or through PCSX2 but if you're emulating they must be done at native resolution or the lighting breaks and will not be fixed.3 with the restoration patch on PS3 > PC with the restoration patch > Remastered > PS3.PS3 4 > 4R.Dead Souls should be played through RPCS3. Only play it on an actual PS3 if you have to as it runs at 15 FPS with drops.PS3 5 > 5R.Technically the best version of 0 is the translation patch of 3 as it's the only way you can use the Walkman. The PC version has a save corruption bug and several broken minigames.PS4 Judgment > Remastered.PS3/PS4 Ishin > PS5/PC Ishin.Kiwamis are not replacements they are essentially sidegrades. You did not play 1 if you played Kiwami 1 and vice-versa. While their stories are the new canon they either constantly retcon or contradict older games, reference the older games even though canonically they haven't happened yet, and in the case of Kiwami 3 actively cannot follow into 4 due to its ending on top of introducing continuity issues to other aspects of the series.Ishin Kiwami (Like a Dragon: Ishin!) is worse than the original Ishin in every respect. Every single one. The original has a translation patch for the PS3 version.3-5 Remastered are all worse than their original versions due to censorship and a multitude of bugs introduced due to the 60 FPS.0 Director's Cut adds some bad new cutscenes and a worse font.Judgment Remastered introduces bugs.
> decided to start the Yakuza games> buy the Yakuza Remastered Collection> find out it doesn't include 0, 1 and 2> return it and never start Yakuza
>>749028902>Technically the best version of 0 is the translation patch of 3Meant "on PS3", whoops."Judgment" is Judge Eyes."Yakuza: Like a Dragon" is 7."Like a Dragon: The Man Who Erased His Name" is 7 Gaiden and is to be played after 7. It directly spoils the ending."Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth" is 8."Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii" is 8 Gaiden: Pirates in Hawaii and is to be played after 8. It directly spoils the ending and is a direct sequel to it.Kenzan released after 1 and 2, before 3. Most every game after 1 and 2 reference it in some way. There is no translation yet but there is a patch in the works. Main story can be played without a guide once that happens (Or right now if you just follow KHHSubs' video guide), any side content requires you to guide game and a translation patch will not fix that.Ishin released after 5, before 0. Most games until around Kiwami 2 either reference it in minor ways or still use its movesets, then after Ishin Kiwami came out after 7 the games started featuring the movesets on mooks more frequently again.Judgment and Lost Judgment are canon spinoffs that take place after 6 and after 7 respectively. While their stories do not intersect with the Yakuza series the characters occasionally appear in Yakuza games and vice-versa.Black Panthers 1 and 2 on PSP have translation patches but are never referenced in the mainline games. Fun games though.All games released after the PS4 came out (So 0 onward) have issues being played at 60 FPS. These issues are very very minor in Ishin, 0, and K1 and mostly just relate to Heat draining a slight bit faster or rhythm game timings being like .01ms off.K2 onward introduce physics issues, cutscenes moving slightly faster, Heat drain being faster (Most of this was fixed from what I recall), substories not working properly forcing a save reload, objects like the drones in JER and LJ being buggy at times, etc. As stated 3-5R have 60 FPS issues and you cannot fix them.
My recommended play order.Yakuza KiwamiYakuza Kiwami 2Yakuza Kiwami 3Yakuza 0Yakuza 4,5,6JudgementLike a DragonLost JudgementLike a Dragon Gaiden The Man who Erased his NameLike a Dragon Infinite WealthLike a Dragon PirateSkip Dead Souls,it's trash. Like a Dragon Inshin! is meh... you can skip this as well.
>>749023429Avoid the main series, try Judgment, it's self contained and modern.
Playing 0 to 4 in that order shows you how Kamurocho changes
>>749031752No it doesn't because the Gindaco Highball randomly replaces the Gelataria twice, Little Asia phases in and out of existence, North Pink Street suddenly exists out of nowhere, and so many other minor things when going out of order. 0 to 1 alone just introduces so many minor issues in Kamurocho.
>>749023429Play the first game on PS2, you retard.
>>749023429Honestly, I started with 0 and loved it. Played the entire main series then replayed 0 again afterward.
>>749025653Explain how directors cut is worse
>>749023429There are only two valid answers: Yakuza 1 on the PS2 or Yakuza 0. Anyone who tells you to start with Kiwami 1, 7 etc. is insane.
>>749023429Stranger Than HeavenYakuza 0 Director's CutYakuza KiwamiYakuza Kiwami 2Yakuza Kiwami 3 & Dark Ties (watch original Yakuza 3 ending on youtube after)Yakuza 4 RemasteredYakuza 5 RemasteredYakuza 6: The Song of LifeJudgment (optional)Yakuza: Like a DragonLost Judgment & The Kaito Files (optional after playing Judgment)Like a Dragon: Ishin! (optional)Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His NameLike a Dragon: Infinite WealthLike a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii
>>749023429Kiwami 3 wasn't as bad as the retards here said it was. If anything I liked it over Y3.
>>749023429emulate unless you own the older consoles. avoid kiwamis and remasters in general
>>749023429Play it in release order starting with the PS2 games. Yakuza 1 has an undub now.
>>749033070Kiwami 3 cut out the bloat and for some reason it made people seethe
>>749033139Nah kiwamis mog it in every way
>>749032758Font changes are terrible.They moved the speaker name during the screenshot cutscenes into the text box instead of being in a separate spot of the text box itself.They retcon two separate deaths of people who will be dead of old age before 1 happens anyway so it was completely pointless.The new cutscene where Majima shows he's going to fix the watch is not only unnecessary as it treats you as if you're a child unable to understand what's going on but ruins the actual scene of it happening later in the game.The epilogue is completely unnecessary and pads the ending.The only real advantages are the 4K textures on consoles (PC already had these), cutscene models in gameplay (PC already had these as did modded PS4s), the final Kuze cutscene being an actual cutscene instead of a voiced text cutscene, a new trophy set if you want to do that, and from what I've seen on PC specifically fixed the broken minigames and save corruption issue.>>749032947Ishin was after 5, not LJ. Ishin Kiwami having characters from 7 doesn't matter nor does its release after 7 matter as both 0 and 6 reference Ishin in general.
>>749033195Shut up retard. OP watch this. Kiwami 2 is even worse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmYC5BR6M1E
>>749033226That's why I said Like a Dragon: Ishin! and not Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin!>Ishin Kiwami having characters from 7 doesn't matterUh yeah it does players will be like who the fuck are these guys if they never played 7 before
>>749033283Nah Luddite you lost
>>749023429>How to start this fucking franchise?I went 0>k1>k2>3>4>5>6>ichibanAside from 3 being pain to play on every level, it worked very well for me.Would the story have improved from being played in release order? I doubt it, you're really playing this shit for the characters and side quest comedy, not the cringe plotlines
>>749033169What are you talking about? It added significantly more bloat.>Aloha Links via LaLaLa Mobile.>You now have to do a minimum of 5ish hours of Bad Boy Dragon just to progress the main story at all instead of like an hour and a half of kid substories.>Mame is now at the orphanage instead of explaining how he got there.>By making Mame just exist in the orphanage Mikio's character development was removed.>Mikio's two (I think it was both, I don't recall the fish market one being in K3) substories were removed entirely when both existed to flesh him out as a character, especially the one with his father which had a cutscene and everything.>You are now forced to go hang out with Rikiya in Kamurocho when they let you ignore that entirely in 3 so 30 minutes are now tacked onto the story.>You're also forced into the viper eye substory which itself is literally lacking any reason for Rikiya to actually get the eye in the first place unlike in 3 which had picture related as a foil to make Rikiya reevaluate his life instead of just some random mooks harassing them and standing there tanking a bullet for no reason.>Date's wife substory is now forced into the main story though only the intro.>There's now 3x as much content with the orphans compared to the original because every single one of them has a substory instead of just three or four of them.>Miya is now forced into the main story when Komaki was optional (Komaki also doesn't exist now in K3).>>749033446>players will be like who the fuck are these guys if they never played 7 beforeThey'll just think they're for Ishin. You don't need to know any context behind any of them, that's just fanservice. Not knowing who Adachi is now makes Kondo function exactly like he did in Ishin since he was an original character instead of you immediately trusting him because you know he's Adachi when the whole point of his character is you're not supposed to trust him.
>>749033710>that's just fanserviceExactly why you should play Like a Dragon: Ishin! after 7
>>749023429>How to start this fucking franchise?don'tIf you really think you want to give it a try, don't play 0, because it will ruin Majima from a cool crazy dickhead to a faggot who plays crazy just because a girl doesnt want him.
>>749023429Conclusion from this thread is that you have to wait for the AI recomp of Yakuza 1 with added skating and minecraft
>>749033823Again, doing so ruins how you approach an important main story character because of who they are which didn't happen in the original game because it was an OC so you had no frame of reference. The same issue happens with the final boss too.
>>749023429Are you ready to suffer through hours of autism for pick related?If no, skip 0. play 1-2-3 is the dream of pedos because one of the protagonist wants to rape a loli but he stops, also it has the biggest autist plot ever-4 same as 3 minus the pedo stuff--5 absolute and TOTAL AUTISM with being a japanese idol--6 absolute and TOTAL AUTISM about submarines and shitnew ones with yongyea --- I refuse to play those. I don't care if I have japanese dub, if somebody lets yongyea in a franchise like this I dont want to play that
>>749033968Again, it's a fanservice game so who cares and anyone who has ever got into any media involving the Shinsengumi already knows Kondo is portrayed as a good guy
>>749034136Don't you DARE talk shit about the GOAT.
>>749034298kill yourself
>>749034349suck moose's cock more
Just play 0Skip the rest.
>>749034587weird to say that cause your mom sucked my dick yesterday
Purist tryhards not hating on Kiwamis: impossible.
>>749034298>so who caresIf someone wants to approach it as its own story then it actively improves the game not knowing who is who. You're right that it's a fanservice game so you might want to see who is who, but if you want to approach the game in general it's better you don't play 7 or even 0 for that matter and take it at face value. The only character you're ever supposed to have their role played against you is Hijikata being a good guy since Mine wasn't. Kondo and Takechi are both supposed to be taken at face value which Ishin Kiwami doesn't let you.>anyone who has ever got into any media involving the Shinsengumi already knows Kondo is portrayed as a good guyYeah, but not everyone has. My only knowledge of the Shinsengumi was Gintama and I read like 50 chapters of that decades ago and I thought it was made up for the manga to begin with.
>>749034883The intended Japanese audience certainly wasn't supposed to see it as a twist.
>>749034985The story certainly heavily played it up that he was.
>>749034985Also true
>>749033226So it doesn't remove any content and adds some new stuff? Sounds like an improvement. It also makes the conosle version 4k 60fps.
>>749035273>Sounds like an improvement.Except the majority of all the added content actively ruins the story while also making some of the content look worse as a result so no, that's not an improvement at all.
>>749035375You can simply ignore the extra stuff :)
>>749035447You can't. It's all main story and not optional.
>>749023429I played all of them0 - wow it looks cool, great story, great combat, japanese mafia tale with goofy stuff1 - uhm, why is everyone so fucking and crazy, nevermind the combat looks cool2 - uhm why is everyone so fucking and crazy and depressed like on roller coaster the combat looks cool3-6 - rinse and repeatEverything else: Maximum dogshit
>>7490358027 and 8 had my favorite combat system
>>749035486You have the option to close your eyes
>>749036627No that's too easy for moose. Xhe needs to kill ximself.
>>749023429Yakuza 1 ps2
>>749036627But I have to open my eyes for the next Faiz.
Legitimately don’t listen to the “muh ps2” retardsStart with 0, it’s written well and despite being a prequel made after the original game, unlike MGS3 it benefits from being played as a first introduction to the franchise Play Kiwami 1 and 2, the differences are overblown and they are still great gamesFor 3-5, play the HD versions, do NOT play Kiwami 3 as that’s the only legitimately bad game in the franchise The localization changes in the HD rereleases of 3-5 are minuscule and will not bother you if you have even a semblance of IQ6, 7, Man without a Name, 8, and Pirate are the last group in that orderFor spinoffs, Dead Souls is fun and you can play it after 5, the samurai ones are grindy but a good time (best enjoyed later in the bunch)Judgment and its sequel are kino and mostly self contained barring a few cute nods, play these when you get tired of KiryuLastly, the Fist of the North Star game by RGG Studio is hit and miss. I liked it as a fan, but note that it tells a weird AU version of the FOTN Part 1 story and is probably the grindiest game they’ve ever made with some truly repetitive elements
>>749023429Is kiwami 3 worth picking up?
>>749038220>The localization changes in the HD rereleases of 3-5 are minuscule and will not bother you if you have even a semblance of IQThat's not even remotely the issue. The Remasters all run at 60 FPS which breaks every game that you cannot mitigate in any way and that's ignoring all the cut content in 3R which both PS3 3 and PC 3R can restore with PS3 3 being objectively the best version out currently.3R doubles the block rate of all enemies making them block almost as much as Kenzan's easiest difficulties and halves the Heat Action availability time. PC can fix the dodge distance being doubled or halved depending on the platform and Heat expiring twice as fast with mods while enemies not shooting their guns can be fixed by playing it in fullscreen instead of borderless windowed.4R increases the frequency of grabbing, makes snipers shoot twice as often, and makes the boat sequence twice as hard because in both the story and Ultimate Missions it's always faster than you. It also has the same issues as 3R so the Heat drain issue and the dodge distance issue but PC can mitigate dodge distance, don't think I saw a Heat drain patch.5R has Shinada's final gauntlet being much harder on top of them poorly retranslating it.>and you can play it after 5, the samurai ones are grindy but a good time (best enjoyed later in the bunch)Dead Souls came before 5, not after 5, and 5 not only has a save data item from it but there's some references to it.Kenzan came before 3 and tons of stuff in 3 features it with 5 literally having a descendant of a character in it for Shinada. It is also not grindy at all unless you're going for 100% and even then it's only for two of the swords. Its issue is entirely missables-related.Ishin came before 0 and both 0 and 6 feature things from it. There's also zero reason to play Ishin Kiwami as the translation patch has existed for the original for years now and all the Kiwami did was ruin the gameplay and add more bloat to it.
>>749039101Yes, it's a fine game despite what the troons tell you
>>749039101On sale for like $25 for 3G? Yeah, sure. For K3 itself? No.Bad Boy Dragon is fine and the Morning Glory content is mostly just a slog of catching bugs, fishing, or tons of Ishin cooking minigames with half of the content being main story content from 3 repurposed.Ryukyu style isn't that fun due to its low damage and attack magnetism causing it to whiff all the time though fighting Miya is fun.It has the LJ/7G/8G issue of you being disgustingly overpowered if you put points into damage at all so you can only put into it when you feel truly weak or you just steamroll all mooks.The changes to the main story are all over the place in quality with the Hamazaki stuff being good, the Rikiya stuff being mostly unnecessary, the Miya stuff being fine, extra Mine stuff being mostly misses outside of 3G, and Bad Boy Dragon being mandatory heavily ruins the pacing significantly.3G is really what makes it fun, K3 was more like seeing Ishin Kiwami happen a second time.
>>749023429You can't binge it. You just can't. The games are too similar and you'll burn out. Play Yakuza-0 first, for sure, then take a break and play something else before playing the next Yakuza, whatever you choose after that. Don't play them back to back. They're just too long and you're going to hate it if you try to do multiple games at once.
>>749023991Yakuza 0 is like the best game in the franchise. Don't listen to these puritan elitists. Most these faggots are masochists up their own ass and think they're superior, so they try to shill inferior games as a sort of dick-waving ritual. If you haven't played the franchise, play Yakuza 0 first.
