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Does everyone in 40K have to be an asshole?

Even the so called good eyes openly talk about mass murdering babies coz they are evil or something.
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Lurk moar. Your ignorance is embarrassing.
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You got the Tau empire right there. Humans live among them better than under the Imperium
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>>749025381
>Does everyone in 40K have to be an asshole?
Yep. That's the whole point. It's a mean setting. Don't you get tired of the same black-and-white good vs. evil story for the millionth time? It's crazy how normies always have such a knee-jerk reaction to the tiniest change to the canon of cliches that makes up pop culture
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>>749025381
>Does everyone in 40K have to be an asshole?
Yes? It's the core principle.
That's like asking if OP *has* to suck cocks.

>>749025748
>Humans live among them better than under the Imperium
Not for long now that Tau-aligned Humans spawned an actual God of Greater Good and the Taus decided that humans need asap extermination before that thing grow too powerful.
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>>749025381
It’s a setting where humanity is constantly teetering on the brink of extinction. Everyone has been shaped by centuries of war, paranoia, and religious fanaticism. In a universe like that, being an asshole is just part of being ruthless, cause being anything else tends to not live long.
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>>749025381
There are plenty of nice places in the 40K Imperium...
They just happen to be boring so nobody focuses on them. You don't go into a Godzilla movie wanting to listen to the human subplot, you want to see the Kaiju beating the crap out of each other.
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>>749025898
>the Taus decided that humans need asap extermination before that thing grow too powerful.
that was one single tau army that went through the warp and went crazy, not a thing in the whole society
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>>749026237
>You don't go into a Godzilla movie wanting to listen to the human subplot
Unironically Shin Godzilla is my favorite Godzilla movie because I'm an autist who likes political procedurals
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>>749026237
>Godzilla 2027
>Godzilla is wrecking all of Japan with extremely gory attacks
>The movie actually follow a love story in Manhattan or some other 3rd world shithole
>You only get to see the destruction on TV/smartphone screens in the background
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>>749025381
Humanity under Tau are people who sold their Emperor for a comfier life under Tau. But they're actively sterilized in the Dark Crusade. Humans are treated as 3-class citizens in the Tau Empire. 2nd-class citizens & literal cannon fodder in the Farsight Enclaves! And the ppl living in Tau territories feel themselves conquered.
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>>749025381
In the grim darkness of the far future everybody is an asshole.
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>>749025381
That's the point.
Every race and faction is an arse to various degrees. The only exceptions are certain individuals within those races and factions.
Even Chaos, that qualifies as the one true big bad in the setting, has some Byronic Chaos Marines and those that are aware just how far they have fallen.
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>>749026568
>Humanity under Tau are people who sold their Emperor
never voted for him, he isnt my Emperor
> But they're actively sterilized in the Dark Crusade
third party product not published by GW, also happened in one single campaign, not in the entire Tau empite
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>>749026549
Considering the existence of that War of the Worlds movie with Ice-T, this is very possible
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i can never take 40k or any other "edgy" franchises seriously like trench crusade because there's always an obvious limit to the edginesss the supposed demons from hell can do. all these stories about massacres and tortures and barely any peep about actual heinous shit like raping kids.
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>>749026798
if the setting about fantasy warfare cant be enjoyed by you because they dont rape kids, you might be the problem, pedo-kun
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>>749025381
>>749025851
Their arseholery is entirely justified in-universe though. It is worth exterminating a million lives for the sake of 200 hundred cultists; because if you don't those 200 cultists will bring forth demons or aliens that will consume that innocent million and turn them into a human-slaughtering foe that will go on to exterminate billions if not trillions of lives.

Better to take rumours of cults seriously and dish out the death penalty liberally. The alternative is far too costly to risk.

Basically its a setting where everything we think is horrific and bigoted is sensible and necessary to their on-going survival. It was a fun fantasy setting that forced you to put yourself in the shoes of the worst villains of our history; and yet here we find them entirely justified. A very fun thought experiment.

Modern writers don't get it though. So now you have a glaring mismatch between certain chapters and periods of history. This is why many people hate 'nu-hammer', and thats before we mention primaris, custodes or femstodes.
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>>749025898
>bullshit from a tiktok tertiary

How long ago do you think that piece of fluff was written? It's been nearly a decade and fuck all has been done with it since. Shit was a one off so the author could have an excuse to have le crazy insane-o tau for their story.
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>>749025381
>Even the so called good eyes openly talk about mass murdering babies coz they are evil or something.
think for one second how horrifying the enemy is that actions like that are justified and even encouraged. Humanity in 40k is the ultimate "ends justify the means" race
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>>749026841
why dont the evil demons say nigger and faggot?
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>>749027094
They call you corpse-worshipper which is worse for Imperials.
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>>749027094
why would eldritch monsters 38k years in the future use the slang lingua of people in 2k, which would be utterly meaningless for anyone alive in the imperium?
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>>749025381
There is an actual Good Guy faction in 40k that wants to establish peace and is open to sharing the galaxy, but we're mot really ready for that talk.
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>>749027094
>Nurgle
Wants to be nice and friendly as he spreads super plagues
>Slaanesh
Wants to entice you with pretty things before eviscerating or sodomizing you
>Tzeentch
Utilizes slurs that haven't been invented yet and thus lack power
>Khorne
Just wants to fucking kill you, insults are unnecessary.
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>>749026841
You're telling me the regular human elites from the 2020s are more evil than the actual demons from hell 40k into the future?
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The best race ever made within a fictional setting are the Orks
Brutality & Comedy is just like milk and chocolate can't beat that
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>>749027094
>nigger
>based on people around the niger river
>they relate you to some ancient place on Holy Terra itself
>holy shit this is so cool
>im blessed, praised the emperor
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>>749027449
Daemons in 40k are merely a reflection and manifestation of the evils and sins comitted by the species within realspace.
If a pedophilia daemons exists in 40k it's because enough mortals MADE it exist, either indirectly or intentionally.
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Why have there been so many 40k threads recently? I'm not complaining, its just odd.
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>>749027745
>New Space Marine 2 update
>New TWW3 DLC
>Total War 40k coming likely next year
>Nee Rogue Trader DLC coming soon
>Dark Heresy likely next year
40k has a frankly odd number of video games considering how much disdain GW views the medium with.
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>>749027745
Hes so fucking smug.
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>>749028010
You would be to if you won the Horus Heresy.
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>>749025381
Have you read any of the books?
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>>749028357
The ones who are always of dubious canonicity, contradict each other constantly, and have the most blatant case of "writer's pet" syndrome any extended universe ever had?
Yeah, a few.
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>>749027826
GW killing Warhammer Fantasy just before Warhammer Total War blew up must have ruffled some feathers upstairs. I get the sense that video games are taken more seriously by the GW suits, but the downside is they force vidya devs to use more NuHammer stuff.
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Reminder that 99% of all Tzeentchian cultists leave right before they're granted daemonhood.

Don't be a quitter! He is watching and will reward you soon!
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>>749026568
>secondary thinks the tau ending of dark crusade is canon

lol lmao even
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>>749028596
Nah the higher ups were fine with warhammer fantasy being squatted, it's what allowed the games not to be tied to a strict timeline or anything.
The actual insult occurred with Warhammer total war 1, where they advertised a bunch of legendary heroes as figures you could buy on the GW store, while it was actively being shut down.
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>>749028596
if you hand out the IP to some third party, you want it to be about one of your current product lines, not about some IP that is no longer on the shelves and thus cant bring any synergy effects
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>>749028596
Nah.
By the time TWW came out Fantasy had been gone for a good while and the ones behind it were ousted after the unmitigated disaster that was AoS 1st Edition, which carried over several issues from Fantasy's death throes while being a mismanaged train wreck after having been rushed out.
Old World is now #3 among GW's properties but that's after years of fixing both AoS and Fantasy while 40k carries the company.
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>>749028945
>>749028809
Ok my recollection of events is quite off then.
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I hope that when the Tau are added in one of the DLCs for Total Warhammer 40k that they have more than just Tau and Mechs. At a minimum they better have the Kroot, Vespids and Gue'vesa. Also having Tarellians show up in an official 40k game would be pretty cool.
Also with the sub-faction thing that the game seems to have I hope the Farsight Enclaves are a sub-faction.
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>>749025381
Several thousand years of pic related.
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>>749025381
read about what happened to the germans if you want to know what happens when you are too nice
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>>749029237
How do the Eldar fuck you over in RT if you leave them in your agriworld?
I don't want to start another playthrough until Season 2 runs its course.
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>>749026798
>there's always an obvious limit to the edginess
>barely any peep about actual heinous shit like raping kids
You're looking too deeply for edgelord stuff.
Look closer, your image shows off the problem, you have gender equality even in this cult image. The devil is the worst thing under earth but he'd never do a heckin' racism, nor should you, especially not during WWI.
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>>749028773
canonfags were the worst thing to happen to 40k
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>>749026568
You can worship the emperor under tau rule, they sold out the modern imperium, which isn't the emperor.
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>>749026568
Its funny how even if everything you said was true (it isn't) being a human in the Tau Empire is still a better fate than being a human in the Imperium of Man.
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>>749026656
>>749028773
It's amazing how many instances of Tau treating humans like shit there are but Tau'fags always have some excuse how it isn't canon, and only the utopian, propagandist point of view Tau codex version counts. It's also pathetic how Tau'fags can't accept that their super special faction doesn't actually fit the setting or make sense within the setting if it actually works in the utopian fashion they masturbate to; apparently all the rules for how Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Chaos Demons, Chaos Cultists, Necrons, etc, etc, etc, just have to not actually behave like themselves so Tau can continue to exist in the manner a Tau'fag demands.
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>>749029639
>the modern imperium, which isn't the emperor
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>>749029897
Its not. Its lorgars imperium. The emperor is just living in it.
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>>749029347
>How do the Eldar fuck you over in RT if you leave them in your agriworld?
If you leave the Eldar be on Janus, then they leave peacefully when other Eldar show up and Mauran officially confers his blessing to the Humans to maintain the planet.
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>>749029842
>some instances of some tau treating some humans shitty: NOOOOOOOO THIS IS HECKIN WROOOOOONG
>literally countless examples of the Imperium of Man treating Humans way fucking worse: This is actually okay, sweetie
Imperium retards are always the most disingenuous faggots, I swear.
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>>749025381
You're either the asshole or you're the shit
- ancient Indian proverb
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>>749030205
mankind has reasons to act as it does, the tau are just alien conquerors who still pretend at being holier-than-thou
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>>749030280
Whats the reason behind forgetting how to make 90% of their war machines while being at war for millenia?
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You can tell the tau are the bad guys because if they were good they wouldn't be on the magma conveyor
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>>749029842
it's more that tertiaries like you can only recite the same few non-canon entries or uncharacteristic one offs that haven't been mentioned in a decade or more by any codex or supplementary material.

the bad stuff the tau actually do is much more mundane and bundled in with auxiliary races more or less being treated as second class citizens in the empire.

granted being a second class citizen in the tau empire is still a much better deal than being a regular citizen in the imperium of man
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>>749030760
I genuinely don't know how people can take this shit seriously.
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>>749028809
You could still buy basically all of those figures for year after that though.
TWW crows is just too poor and retarded to get into the hobby so they faked excuses.
I saw a guy saying he'd totally try models if they made a Karl Franz one. They literally never, not even for 1 day, stopped selling the existing Karl
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>>749029705
For neets, maybe. But it sells humanity's future. Tau system has a strict caste barriers against people, while Imperium maintains human supremacy and survival. Throwing one's lot with the Tau is a short-term decision which highlights nothing learned from the old night.
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>>749031598
Whats the old night? Oh wait you dont know because youre not allowed to read.
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>>749031598
Buddy I don't think you understand the Imperium or 40k's Humanity in general.
The Old Night was not "All the evil aliens betray humanity and shank them while they're weak", it was "All the aliens that DAOT Humanity fucked over for profit came back to reclaim what Humans took from them".
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>>749025381
Many of the space marines have 10,000 years of PTSD
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>>749025381
There is nothing wrong with exterminating lesser races that seek your destruction and that you think there is is why this world has gone to shit.
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>>749027494
this but the skaven
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>>749029842
GW had to give Tau a resistance to chaos so that The Tau Empire can even exist...
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>>749025381
primaris are so ugly
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>>749032116
its pretty much just upscaled mark 4.
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>>749032103
Chaos has nothing to do with the Tau.
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>>749027745
because i got into 40k recently and im the main character so the threads always follow my interests
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>>749031914
sauce? eldar codex?
>>749031668
that only applies to low-tech & feral worlds.
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>>749032246
evidently, due to how Tau is set-up in the lore.
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>>749027247
fuck no
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>>749031970
>There is nothing wrong with exterminating lesser races that seek your destruction
Agreed.
>Dominique Pelicot
What the fuck you have a computer in jail?
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I am more than just a member of my species, if the alien is a kinder ruler, I would leave humanity behind without a second thought. Simple as.
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
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>>749030587
the code for their ancient wikipedia became sentient and evil then tried to exterminate all human life thus crashing their ancient empire. The only access they have to making old war machines require finding uncorrupted, unconnected data banks and then retooling entire inter-planetary supply and production chains to even attempt to make new shit
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>>749025381
>Even the so called good eyes openly talk about mass murdering babies coz they are evil or something.
The Tau don't do that
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>>749032507
he sat on a squig
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>>749031014
Some people pretend the holocoaster is real
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Which Chaos God would be the least shit to worship?
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>>749032617
Khorne if you fully commit to retard maxing.
DO NOT BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO SAY NURGLE
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>>749032617
khorne in both settings
simple and straightforward strength, easy enough to dip toes in and still get decent return or go full ham and not be on the ass end of getting fucked if you accept barbarian maxing
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>>749030587
humanity achieved the pinnacle of progress and it caused the butlerian jihad aka. terminator war of the machines. much information was lost. humanity is prohibited from coming up with innovation lest it lead to another machine uprising. what mechanicus is doing is gathering lost STCs to manufacture existing technology (also archeotech relics), but never ever coming up with new technology! this is why imperium machines run on cogitators and machine spirits instead of AI.
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>>749032617
Khorne. He just wants you to kill shit over and over without end. He also isn't some faggot who punishes you with some ironic twist in gaining favor from him, he will make the act of killing endlessly pleasurable no matter how many times you do it, and he'll buff you more and more with every successful conquest.

Slaanesh is the worst, without question.
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>>749032737
>machine spirits
AI with extra steps cookiedoughbeit
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>>749025381
>Does everyone in 40K have to be an asshole?
Yes, it's Darwnism applied to sentient species at a universal scale
>The fit survives, the weak dies
If you want to survive you must do whatever it takes also you are a faggot OP
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Do women have an innately genetic advantage as cultists of Khorne? I mean, think about it logically. If a male cultist and a female cultist were each to slaughter twenty-five people, the female cultist would have more blood offered. They get a free source of blood for the blood god every month.

Is Khorne woke?
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>>749032617
Undivided if you can get away with it. There's no upside to any one of them, they're all pure evil and unless you're some kind of superman or professional mass murderer you're not getting on their good side.
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vashtorr
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>>749032617
>Khorne
Very straightforward, just kill and get stronger. Sure you may get "backstabbed" but its more of a fellow champion starting a brawl out of the blue
>Nurgle
An abusive relationship, you smell and look like shit and have no desire to grow. At least you wont feel pain as long as you still have a connection to papa
>Tzeentch
The entire tzeentch pantheon is about change, be it your own body for shits n giggles or others. You are but a pawn in the great games, utterly disposable for the next move
>Slaanesh
After experiencing the best high of your life you will be doing anything to feel it again. You will be a shell of a man for all eternity unless the most extremes of extremes comes into play.
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>>749027221
Imagine some depraved NEET from the 21st century being turned into a Demon Lord, and 40000 years later, he's annoying Chaos Marines by using slang they can't understand.
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>>749033112
khorne hates backstabbing
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>>749032905
How do you go about it? It's hard enough staying neutral in real life when friends and family are sperging out about politics.
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>>749032812
>Do women have an innately genetic advantage as cultists of Khorne?
No, he thinks periods are dishonorable and kinda gay.
>Is Khorne woke?
No, he doesn't like girls. They are yucky and gross.
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>>749033161
Yeah its half of why Skarbrand got exiled. he was a pussy bitch who made a cheap shot.
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>>749033161
khorne hates backstabbing when it's premeditated
when you've run out of enemies and start bursting into your mate's tent to chop his head off because you're bored that's fine by him
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>>749025381
>Does everyone in 40K have to be an asshole?
yes
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>>749033371
gross
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>>749025381
nah, the franchise has made it clear they don't actually want anything "good" happening, the "good" guys are literally just the least of all evils, which isn't saying much when your neighbors are warmongering retards, hungry zerg, gay racist dark elves who are apparently superior but fall for the same shit humans do, gay elves who think they are superior but fall for the same shit humans do, and a small collection of cows in a caste system who chemically castrate everyone who isn't allowed to breed
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>>749033315
oh that's what you meant, like he's fine if it's like that and not to win a duel
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>>749027745
Dawn of War 4 release in 2 months
It's not going to be good but regardless, 40k is mainstream enough to have daily threads on /v/
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>>749032276
It applies to any world with a strong inquisition presence. Reading is heretical, knowledge is heresy
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enough about 40k. Who are the good guys in Warhammer Fantasy/ Age of Sigmar/ The Old World?
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>>749025381
>Even the so called good eyes openly talk about mass murdering babies
As long as they're not heckin MISOGYNISTS they are not evil, just misunderstood.
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>>749032536
>>749032737
Except the emperor was able to advance scientific research post daot so thats wrong.
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>>749033869
Skaven cause they do more to kill skaven than the rest of the races combined.
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>>749034001
Because he's the fucking emperor of mankind
That Jesus could walk on water doesn't mean it should be expected
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>>749033869
High Elves and it's not even close
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>>749025381
It's supposed to be a foid filter but everyone underestimated how much women love slaughtering babies, 30% of an entire generation to be precise.
But that's exactly the problem, nobody believes it's genocide when they're doing it, there's always some excuse, which is why humanity in 40k can still be the good guys, for exactly the same reason the people in our contemporary first world societies are the "good guys" for killing babies, even for a more selfish reason (and everyone who opposes them is chud nazi bigot of pure ontological misogynist evil)
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>>749032617
Nurgle if you aren't a vain ambitious faggot. You get longevity and immunity from pain but you look and smell like shit.
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What 40k faction is best if I really hate elves and tau
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>>749034896
imperium of your flavor minus SoB and grey knights
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>>749033180
Worship and do the bidding of them all in equal measure which is very difficult to achieve in universe hence why Undivided Daemon Princes are very rare. The main two of note are Lorgar and Be'lakor, the latter being the exact reason why they are rare because being blessed by all 4 equally means you can disobey them in equal measure.
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>>749035396
Perturabo is also an Undivided Daemon Prince.
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why are eldar the only faction with hot girls?
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>>749035641
GSC exists
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>>749025381
Not being an asshole gets you killed.
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>>749027826
>>Nee Rogue Trader DLC coming soon
Wait, it got delayed? Has Owlcat EVER delivered DLC on time?
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I'm waiting for 40k to turn into what Warcraft is today. Quote from the dev
>I wish were never used the word war
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>Early 40k was typical British sci-fi with the writers making a big joke about British politics and types of groups you'd find in Britain, then slapping it into run of the mill sci-fi universe inspired by shit like Dune and 2000 AD.
>James Workshop then tries to go international and appeal more to the US/Global audience slowly cutting out all the initial parody shit, satire and British eccentricities to maximize profit
>Get a bunch of power fantasy hungry Americans and Russians into the hobby and over time said Americans and Russians end up giving 40k a real stank as the chud incel game
>James Workshop does another 180 and tries to double down Warhammer is for everyone to wash that stank off
>Power Fantasy fans now keep parroting 40k isn't for you anymore and no longer the grim dark fascist setting (you) fell in love with.

Deserved desu. Should've just kept it British.
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>>749027826
I'm just glad we have beakies.
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>>749035809
get colonized, lmao
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Eldar are made for Big Chemosian Tentacle Cock
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>>749035809
Rogue Trader was cartoony faggot shit.
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>>749034712
Ehh I dunno even being immune doesn’t help. You’re just so miserable you become numb like Vorx.
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I just want more Space Hulk games :(
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>>749025381
I don't know but the green marines (Salamanders) and guys like Marneus Calgar are pretty decent for 40k standards.
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>>749025381
>NOOOOO I NEED MY BLACK AND WHITE MENTALITY! MOOMMMYYYYYY!
lmao 40kfags are pathetic
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>>749034896
Necrons.
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>>749036068
it's worth it trust me bro
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>everyone somehow manages to die either right at the beginning of decapitation or in the tower on absolute
i have no idea how retards like this function, turn the friendly fire penance off if you're playing melee tactical, also why does someone play melee tactical and then proceed to use the weakest fucking melee weapon that takes 5 (not joking or exaggerating) hits to kill a red-eyed gaunt holy FUCK
I JUST WANT MY LAMENTER PAULDRON
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>>749036164
eeeeeeeh still marines
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>>749035761
I doubt it, but there's been decline in artwork.
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>>749033869
ToW has it blantantly spelled out for retards interested in it with 0 nuance allowed
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>>749026568
Tau lovers are pathetic
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>>749035641
Too many artists, especially AI, don't realize Yvraine's right hand is a prosthetic.
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>>749025381
For me it's Lelith Hesperax
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>>749035809
It's a 40k problem which was always scale over everything else. Fantasy had to make due with the one world it had so everything was higher stakes. It also did comparatively worse than 40k so, you know.
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>>749026568
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God I love orks
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>>749037169
good artist
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>>749037169
shit artist
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>>749037169
An artist
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>>749037505
Do you think he can see out of the eye nipple on his titty?
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>>749037621
that's an armor part
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>>749037791
Yeah but it could have a camera attached to it or something. Just wondering.
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>>749036937
Tau is the only 40k army with visual aesthetic.
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>>749027745
DoW4, TW40K and general rising popularity of the series.
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>>749037867
>generic gook mechs
Yeah sure is a great aesthetic, faggot
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>>749037943
tbui
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>>749026996
Wanting Tau to be "le good guys" is fucking gay and you should be ashamed of yourself
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>>749025381
it's supposed to be grim....and dark. I guess that's all. They also stopped using AI because it turned "evil" so they voluntarily shot themselves on the foot.

The Emprah is a retard too.
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>>749037867
They look bland and boring.
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>>749025748
It's funny how humans under Tau live better off than humans in the Imperium during it's "golden age" in 30K. A citizen living in Macragge (one of the "best" planets in the Imperium) had in 30K ONE day off a month and 12h our shifts.

Now yeah that is a vacation compared to current 40K Imperium working conditions of 1 day off a year and 20 hour shifts. But it's still absolute shit and proves Imperium was absolute shit even during the "golden age".
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>>749034323
He wasnt the only person inventing things.
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Good guys? You mean Necrons?
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>>749038098
The Tau empire will always be the empire for Tau. Every other species are 2nd rank citizens at best.
What a gay faction.
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>>749027745
It's the new franchise to rape and make gay. Star Wars is gone, Marvel is gone, Zombies are gone, Cyberpunk is next and Warhammer40K is a good appetizer until that happens.
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>>749038098
Massive missed opportunity with the Tau is to explore all the member races. You basically get Tau, Kroot and humans.
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It should be illegal to talk about 40k if you don't own and paint models
We need ID verifications laws, but instead you post a fully painted model instead of an ID
99% of the memelore shitposts would disappear instantly
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eat shit blue faggots
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>>749037169
Why does he make the orks look like gorillas?
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>>749037169
do Orkz eat humans regularly?
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>>749026568
That sterilization is a non canon ending of a video game. And also sterilization is far better than getting turned into a servitor because there's a servitor quota to be filled and you just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or getting busified to a ship and having to manually pull giant torpedoes while getting whipped until you die due to exhaustion.
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>>749038290
it's certainly a weird IP where most people are secondaries and tertiaries
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>>749038290
Go cry over muh lasguns somewhere else
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>>749038047
Wanting everything to be grimderp isn't helping. What's the point of fighting foe tomorrow if there is no hope tomorrow might be slightly less shit?
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>>749038452
actual 40k players don't care what color las fire is
we're used to people just coloring something whatever they feel like at the moment
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>>749038290
40k would benefit as a whole if GW dropped the retarded little gray army men entirely
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>>749025381
Space Marines are completely irrelevant to the plot. Their numbers are way too small when you look at Imperium population. If you are an enemy of the Imperium you are 100k-1 million times more likely to run into a TERRAN Baneblade than against a single space marine. And I don't know about you but if I have to choose between fighting a space marine or baneblade I'm choosing the space marine.

Also a modern M1 Abrams or T90M is in many ways superior to the Leman Russ or Predator.
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>>749037169
orks need to eat?
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>>749038545
kill yourself secondary
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>>749037943
>>generic gook mechs
False
>Yeah sure is a great aesthetic, faggot
Yep, better than no standing aesthetic of the rest of 40k armies.
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>>749038673
Zamn, CIS/Trade Federation looks so good.
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>>749027094
Race isn't even a concept in the Imperium. Why would they care about Africans or Caucasians when Africa and the Caucasus literally don't even exist anymore? There are only humans (including transhumans) and non-humans (including mutants). That's the only racism they need
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>>749038673
Only thing the Tau would need to do is to have actual robot armies as well. I mean they have their gun drones.

Also since Tau has gun drones when we will get a Tau FPV drone pilot unit?
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>>749037505
my friend :)
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>>749038673
I don't think you understand what aesthetic means. Every army has an aesthetic. If they didn't they would all be grey featureless bricks. Maybe learn English first nigger.
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>>749038290
What's wrong with just reading books? You're saying someone who has read 100+ 40k books but doesn't paint is less qualified to talk about the lore than someone who has a whole army but hasn't read a word of the lore?
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>>749038887
>Every army has an aesthetic.
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>>749039056
9/10.
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>>749039056
That is clearly an aesthetic. Once again you are a retarded faggot like most Tau players.
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>>749039056
>Religious iconography is not an aesthetic
?
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>>749039054
>What's wrong with just reading books?
Maybe the fact that BL is dogshit?
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>>749039157
>That is clearly an aesthetic.
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>>749038887
Grey featureless bricks are an aesthetic too
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>>749039056
fucking imperium and their statues
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>>749039231
There's tons of great boys love books, what are you talking about? Heaven's Official Blessing, Thousand Autumns, Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation...
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Crons have the weakest aesthetic in 40k.
>Ooohh uhhh muh robo skelly egyptian shit
Boring trash

Can't prove me wrong btw
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>>749039203
Obviously he is talking about poor gunner, who had his legs chopped off to fit into the turret.
And yeah, nealy all 40k armies looks lame as fuck, Eldar and Nids might be fun, but they are inferior.
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>>749039386
i like them the best but other than the imagery of the ctan being chained to their machines in pain and some stuff i personally like, like the pixel elements
yeah there isnt much
like skele faction in other games have cool constructs while they have weird metallic arks
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>>749038291
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>>749038291
all that sleek armor and fancy stuff only to get shat on sometimes literally by the other factions be it power wise or tech wise
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need a 50ft tall church bell steeple on my rhino
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>>749039054
40k is a tabletop wargame
Not a book series
Hope this helps
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I played boltgun and I was thoroughly bored the entire time.
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>>749038383
they definitely dont just leave you if you dont put up a fight, some eat humans yeah
>>749038615
they can eat but do they NEED to? not sure
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>>749039386
>Crons have the weakest aesthetic in 40k.
Eldar unfortunately exist, so no.
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>>749036881
I remember the shitstorm this caused. GW had to edit the fucking picture to remove the "good" and "evil" part because wfb fans did not like being told GW considers their special OCs this shallow.
Still, tells you what people behind the old world think about the setting
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>>749036881
How could you possibly think the tomb kings are evil
or the brets good
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>>749039054
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>>749039246
I love the Ordo Malleus
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>>749041048
Video games are like television and movies. They're very accessible media so /v/ complaining about secondaries never made any sense to me.
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>>749033161
He hates backstabbing but is fine with infighting
He just hates planning shit in advance instead of just cutting your way through anything or dying trying
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>>749041138
You'd think, but big games like Elden Ring showed us there is a huge demographic of retards that will never touch a video game but spend hours talking about it because it's popular with their favorite streamers and/or sloptubers
40k is very similar situation
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>>749041238
or cheating
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>>749026494
Go watch Japan's Longest Day, it's one of Anno's favorite movies by his favorite director Kihachi Okamoto.
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>>749040956
Yeah because its retarded. Even beyond the more grounded politicking factions like tomb kings are explicitly neutral on the scale
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>>749033869
There is only one faction so purely good that it defeated GW's grimderp writers and made them give up on moral relativism and admit they actually did nothing wrong, ever, despite pages of genocide slander and desperate Hitler analogies.
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>>749038048
In 40k the warp exists. The warp can corrupt machines, but machines can't feed chaos due their lack of souls, only intelligent species. EVERY AI in 40k will need 0.0002 seconds to reach the conclusion that the safest way for it to survive is to purge any living being in the galaxy
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>>749041890
Good point, but the 3 laws of robotic forbid the machine to prioretize self preservation over human life
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>>749042023
Until the machine thinks preserving human souls is higher priority than their bodies
Or the machine gets corrupted by chaos because that shit can warp stone and metal as easily as flesh
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wdym I've never seen the good guys talk about mass infanticide
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>>749042023
What happens when an AI reads the the 3 laws and answers
>lol
>lmao
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khrave sound cool
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>>749033371
Hot.
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This is Lorgar of the 17th legion, say something nice about him.
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>>749043545
Even he couldn't fuck up beating an Avatar of Khaine.
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I know this is gonna sound very secondary but warhammer always looked way more fun to headcanon than to actually read all the books and material about.
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>>749044786
Reading shit is secondary, primary material is arts and crafts with paint and glue (and yes that is way more fun that reading BL slop)
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>>749044786
>>749044919
If anythign the peak level of warhammer is conversions, which doesn't even give a fuck about canon and shows off mastery of the art beyond what GW explains how to do
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>>749038383
If they want to grow bigger and meaner, then yup. They can photosynthesize to just stay alive but if they want to grow larger then they need meatz. And meatz is meatz.

There is one case where the fucking IRON WARRIORS of all people briefly allied with the Imperium to take down an Ork world that the Greenskins had turned into a giant human farm for foodz because it actually managed to enrage their remaining human sensibilities.
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>>749044786
40k has garbage lore mostly, it works as a story generator
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>>749045004
>conversions
It is pretty fun. I picked up some 3D printed heads from my lgs today and I've been doing some firstborn Bladeguard
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>>749044786
Something to understand 40k is that GW is only successful IN SPITE of its efforts.
Modern 40k lore is garbage.
Modern 40k tabletop rules are borderline unplayable for several factions.
Modern 40k media is completely lost in the 'The Imperium can never lose except against itself' sauce.
Modern 40k 'mainstream' fans are generally insufferable Space Marine fans who think that liking Edgy Buzz Lightyear makes them special.
Literally the only good part of 40k left is the broader setting to be used for making headcanons so you van ignore the stupid bullshit that Black Library authors write.
Even the models, which are meant to be the primary activity of 40k, are now horrifically expensive for what are generally okay models at best.
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I'm on book 50 of the Horus Heresy and almost every primarch has turned into a special brand of ultra retarded psychopath driven by the most childish impulses
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>>749036881
>Tomb Kings
>Evil
Vampire propaganda
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>>749025381
there used to be a voice of reason... then the primitives arrived
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>>749025381
The Orks are cool guys.
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>>749047743
why didn't the wolves every face payback for what they did? if anything they continued getting away with it while being validated every time
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>>749048363
cause space wolves are reddit self insert OCs who dindu nuffin
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I just want to paint cool soldiers miniatures. That's all.
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>>749049079
what's stopping you
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>>749049340
The models keep getting bulkier and too dynamic, in my opinion.
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he's still going
secondary is MAD
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>>749048363
They did. Fenris was invaded by Magnus and the Thousand Sons and as a result much of the planet's population was also killed by the Grey Knights.
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what did he mean by this?
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>>749050780
>>secondary
>but enough about /tg/ trannoids
i don't think you know what that word means
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>>749043545
He told Kharn who killed Argel Tal.
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>>749050634
who dredges up 4chan hornypost one paragraph greentexts from 3 years ago
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>>749050634
I think it's pretty based.
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>>749038290
>>749038425
>>749038664
>>749038513
>the virgin, miniatures, war gamming nerd
>the chad, novels only connoisseur
>the THAD, youtube shorts enjoyer
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>>749043545
He has a very chadly jawline and probably doesn't smell like shit.
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I used to post on r/4klore but at some point I pissed off the main tranny and the entire sub turned on me and I was banned forever. All I did was point out lore inconsistencies in the novels. I messaged the moderators and called them bitch ass niggas being terrorized by some shehulk into submission and then my entire account was banned.

1/10 hobby
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>>749026798
I just like cool guys with big guns. The edginess is at most secondary and helps build the stakes at what the cool guys with big guns shoot at.
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>>749038290
Im looking for a guy with a 3d printer please be patient.
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>>749038098
You pulled all those numbers of your ass retarded nigger. There are planets in the Imperium where living conditions aren't that different from ours. And even on the worst hive shitholes 20 hour shift is a grimderp bullshit because everyone would eventually drop dead from lack of sleep and no one would be procreating.
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>>749038290
>It should be illegal to talk about 40k if you own less than 50 books and have less than 5 40k games on your steam
ftfy quaternary. You're not part of the community.
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>>749038290
>the replies
/v/ really gets pissy when point out that they're the peripheral fanbase, huh?
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>>749051226
>The rad, role-playing game aficionado
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Once I'm done with two of my current gunpla projects I'm gonna start warhammer. I got a mandrakes kill team I'm gonna paint like onis, red oni for warrior and blue oni for the "tricky" spellcasters. Depending on how ambitious I'm feeling I might try to sculpt horns out of putty but their hair might make that too hard.
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>>749053827
based
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What's up with the wholesome chungusification of 40k lately? They're really pushing it to be as safe, bland and uninteresting as possible, while at the same time, presenting it as a "grimdark" universe of brutality and war. But it's so popular with everyone, with normal society, that GW can't possibly actually do anything shocking with it. Not to mention the models are samey and safe.
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>>749033797
>its not going to be good
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>>749027449
Postal 1's director wept for the fact the ending where you shoot up a school was no longer a satire bit of fantasy and is something that will happen (repeatedly) IRL ever since columbine.
40k writers just made demons as just a physical brutal npc enemy to kick shit in because they reflect what the setting is like, a war game on a tabletop. No room for fancy stupid shit like the epstein island when you're rolling dice to see if your 50cm tall robot toy that towers over the opponent's minis will nuke said minis, this is soething 4chanites cannot understand.
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>>749038290
I'd gladly get into actual painting and board faggotry if it wasn't so fucking overpriced



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