Predict the story for the DLC campaign
the spy that contacts you from the lighthouse mission needs you and the rest of joker team to stop a giant flying bipedal mecha that is on the way to destroy farbanti to prevent osea, erusea and yuktobania from chimping out againrex has to blast a massive hole in it's ass to destroy the nuclear core and escape through it's mouth but not before defeating the ace mercs who are totally not hired by not belka/grunder industries/general resourcealso sprinkle in tons of ace combat 3 references.
>>749178491Dision shits his pants on the internet
mobius 1 get ipad
All alone in the deep blue
Somebody generate some Kate videos.
Probably involves the princess and La Chantuse from Mission 16 when she asks you to help her and the rest of the space elevator refugees out. I felt they were out of place in 8's campaign and maybe they were a potential lead into a future DLC storyline.
>>749178491Rex takes Kate on a dinner date
>>749180541I mean they weren't really, the space elevator is the big easy gateway to space. The sotoans needed it to put their satellites in orbit after you nab Comona back.
>tried to make it seem like they wanted us to get close to our new home (the carrier)>we ditch it half way Ok I guess.
Rex.Shepard.Rex.Shepard.
>>749180708Raptorum.
I have an abhorrent disgust to all reviewers, let's play and streamers who uses """standard""" controls.
>>749178491The mole people under Fort Grays open the door, Rex flies straight in. Cue 3 whole missions of continuous tunnel runs.
>>749178491debra wilson gets kidnapped by belkans and you must rescue herthe penultimate mission will have you piloting a space capable experimental fighter to de-orbit a space station that you'll have to shoot up next mission while it's falling out of the skyit ends with debra jumping out from said space station with a parachute above the ouredthen oured gets fucking annihilated by the rest of the wreck
>>749180693I guess they couldn't really commit to it for the whole game thanks to the plane restrictions, like there's only one attacker you can use from it and it's a complete piece of shit.
>>749180941but enso order already annihilated belka
>>749180941>oured gets fucking annihilatedGood.
Moistcritk1al played ace combat 8 last night. Bamco really did give this game freely to anyone in the world who streams.
>>749180693>130gb of highly detailed interior of an aircraft carrier>can't even let me free walk around it
>>749180941I still can't believe they crammed her into AC as well. It's a fucking miracle they haven't scanned her face and put her in as one of your wingmen so you'd get those mission intro cockpit close-ups of her every single fucking time.
>>749180778I don't even know why the fuck it's an option at all. It literally makes the game way harder, and much slower and completly boring. Why???I don't give a shit about worthless review and goytent influencer, I just don't want some newfag to pick up the games, use novice controls and wonder why it's not fun.
AAaaaa
>>749181313pretty sure the very first arcade version of ace combat controlled like that and they've been keeping the feature in as a legacy meme.
>>749181436Topkek
>>749178491Rex loses his mind and gets into a plane, and the entire combined forces of the world have to try and stop him. You play from Rex's perspective, and think you're fighting Sotoans the whole time but you're really shooting down all your FCU allies including Tasha Kate and Baxter.
>>749181304The guys at Namco seem to value actual character design, that's why they didn't scan anyone for Tekken either.
Something something Yuktobanian intelligence from tashas dad something something new super weapon and you fight some aces from a separatist fcu nation
>>749181739I'll screencap this for you
>>749178491Somehow Torres returned AS A CYBORG NINJA!
>Oh n-
>>749178491someone tried to copy mobius's flight data into a drone and somehow triggers returns to save the day against the evil AI again
>>749181436Finally, the only time this meme works
I figured out what is missing from the game, for me, to really make an all time great: A moment where Cope sings a traditional Sotoan song, to accentuate his point of view that shadow22 and moon11 have perverted/forgotten what the nomads way of life meant.All and all I'm really surprized by how much of a character Cope turned out to be, and by how attached to him I got in the end.
>>749182393Nice one, Ray!
>>749178491Kate has to take Tasha and Coster to school while Rex plans date night.
>>749182393Wait?????????It was supposed to crash into a plane?In my game it bugged out and kept spinning upwards.I was so confused, I thought it had a micro.nuke onboard or some shit.
>>749182393Why is this funny. WHY AM I LOSING MY SHIT
>>749182503the tiny baby explosion and then the slight delay before the big explosion with the plane seeming to fall apart before it explodes is what's doing it for me
>>749181313Yeah when I first saw it I thought "so I can have less control over my plane? won't this just make the game harder?"
>>749181436heh
So what aircraft should they add to AC8 that were in AC0?
ENTER the DLC villain
I'm glad that PA figured out that people actually like using new and good planes.I'm about halfwya through zero and I have jack shit unlocked because I've been saving up for a typhoon for the past 5 missions and I'm really getting tired of this mig.
>>749181985Just like in his japanese animes!
Holy FUCK Hortus Regis Alti is so good. Might only be beat by Zero for all-time series songs
>>749182925
>Second half of mission 5Failed 3 times, not cut out for this.
>>749183287
For all the remembering and eulogizing your squad does for Cope over the course of the game, they really didn't seem to give a fuck when he died
>>749183287Time for a hot take, outside of Zero being Iconic it's not actually that much of a listen-on-repeat bop. I found just about any AC8 mission track to be more of an actual earworm than Zero was.
>>749183746I think in general they just quickly kind of move on after death. Cope stated they had like what 4-5 other full squads on Endurance just a few weeks prior and then they were down to just 2. I think the same can be said for the entirety of Strangereal.
>>749183746Cope was the fourth(?) Wings, they pretty much knew he was on borrowed time.
>the birds are the souls at the end>the carrier had several squads that all got wiped before we came along >all those birds that came before the rescue chopper both timesoh
>>749178491All the previous Aces come back as Ghost and lend Rex their power to defeat Nemo. They all then say "We're Ace Combat (8)" together.
>>749183624manoeuvre tech demonstrator, my beloved
>>749183974Cope I know you're a prescient numbers guy but there's no way you're fitting 20 F/A-18's on that little old carrier look at the size of the thing
>There is only one way...>What is it?>no it is horrible idea>SAY IT>Joker 1 stay behind and shoot down all ambushers>Oh no!>Oh no!>He won't be able to manage! I need to stay behind and support him.>HE HAS TO!>Please prove me right and survive...Meanwhile here I am finally relaxing first time in like 10 missions when I no longer have to defend some slow plane, fly close to some superweapon that shits out drones railgun slugs and explosives everywhere or chase something that is faster than my SU 57.
>>749184503I really was upset for a while when that fakeout happened.
>>749184503>Tasha, Coster, go to the movies, I need to borrow Rex for a while.
>>749184576>Already killed half of the squad before I get to the terrible idea prompt
>>749184819mission 28 was awkward as fuck when the song came on because everything was dead kek.
>>749178491There's gotta be SOMETHING to them going out of their way to tell you that battleship 2 went out of their way to pitch a yurt on stonehenge's front porch.
>>749184383It's an Essex-class, they can carry like 90 planes at a time
>>749184503This game gave me an adult woman fetish
>>749184383I don't think you really appreciate just how huge aircraft carriers actually are
>>749183916Zero is iconic but it's also kinoThough I have it right alongside Shadow 22 as the ideal dogfight duel tracks, glad they brought back the dancing guitar at least
>>749184964It's interesting, she's obviously not young, but they also didn't make her a hag or ugly.I don't think western studios know how to do this. They CAN make attractive younger characters and often just choose not to. But I genuinely don't think they know how to do this even if they wanted to.
>>749178491Mobius One's Final Flight
Shadow 22 is a bitch ass motherfucker he pissed all over my plane and he said his missile was "this fast" and then be pulled a kulbit and threw a missile in my ass i am going to KILL HIM
Tell me about those 3 guys. What goes through their head each time ray is showered with praise during a mission? Do you think the rest of the squad even acknowledges their existence?
>>749184964She has that her kids wouldn't go to bed and her husband refused to help look.
>>749184964It was kind of shock that she is the closest thing to a winner by default in regards to Rex.
>>749184275>the 8 then turns on its side and it says Infinity 2i clapped
>>749184992The problem with fucking shadow 22, or basically every other important ace bossfight other than pixy is that they still come off as literally who's. Pixy is your wingman and that makes it actually matter.
>>749185045Anyone feel he looks a bit like Prince?
>>749184912I was hoping it would maybe be the chekhov's gun for dealing with the tonitrus satellites but they really picked the most boring possible options for dealing with those
>>749185056Rex would never
>>749185102Shadow 22 isn't some big shot you've known all your life but when I encountered him I really wanted to kill him. That's what matters.
>>749178491>303?>turns out it was Belkans infiltrating Enso>they've set up shop in southwestern Verusa and started building this giant tunneling superweapon
>>749185102Pixy is really something you can only pull off like once in a franchise. If your wingman always betrayed you then you would never trust your wingman. I do half expect 9 to give us at least one AI wingman so history may repeat.
>>749185130My current assumption is that it's where the auto system that battleship 2 and 3 use came from.
>>749185050those guys are actually manneqins
>Souls confirmed to exist. An afterlife is confirmed to exist in Strangereal.Why did they go with this narrative route?
>>749185050they passed the fuck out after the second 20 g turn
>>749185303did you not play 3,4,5,6?
<< Feed my dog... For me! >> *static*
>>749185045I saw Shadow 22 at an air base armory in Sotoa yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face while shouting TERMINUS FINGERS very loudly. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen QAAM in his hands without paying.The quartermaster was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept saying it's a matter of interpretation, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the missiles and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each missile and put them in a cart and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>749185303Because it gave them an avenue to give the protagonist an internal monologue without killing his self-insertability and it also let them do flashbacks about the villains without breaking PoV
>>7491853914, 5, and 6.Where in any of them is the concept of a soul shown to be real?
>>749185141Mean Tasha and Coster are constantly flying off to do their own thing and he never says a word?If anyone is going to reel in those two brats its going to be mommy Kate.
>>749178491The last mission should've been Torres in his small escape submarine surfacing to check what the hell is going on, seeing that someone got to blow up a capital city that wasn't him and some dude taking on a hyper advanced super plane in the sky, and concluding it must be the fuck who split the Alicorn. Then he starts pursuing and emptying all his weaponry to destroy you and your aircraft carrier.>OOOH BUT EVERYONE GOT MAD WHEN I TRIED TO END THE WAR THIS WAY! I SEE HOW IT IS!
>>749185050now that i think about it what happens if you use a plane with multiple crew members during mission 13? do they just die?
>>74918510222 isn't a Pixy, he's more like a Crimson 1. If anything Moon 11 is closer to a "Pixy" but only insofar that Cope knew her and knows she's lost her marbles.>>749185241Yeah the wingman betrayal thing should not be overused. If we do play Mercs again next time I'd happily take something along the lines of "alright, contracy stipulates we kill you at the end of the mission, sorry pal" merc vs merc betrayal but then it'd be more on the business end.If we have some AI or sublimated person in a plane I could accept them being forced to turn on us via override or something.
>>749180968>world with crazy super weapons and experimental planes>can't make a carrier that can launch every plane
They're actually trying to fucking sneak DFM back into the series.
>>749185608They just get more from the WSO dummy cupboard.
>>749185660tbf this was an old carrier
>>749185671It never worked in single player but kinda worked in multiplayer.
>>749185408They should just give us an actual WSO next time
>>749185849You end up becoming a WSO at the end.
>>749185671its fine if they just want to be cinematic in-gameplay. But no, they should not have full fledge on-rails sequences.
>>749185671The most there was was the "dodge jumpscare missile" bit
>>749185882Going on a ride with your gf to frolic in the sotoan desert and say farewell to your ghost friend does not mean you got demoted to navigatorWhat it does mean, is that Kate tops
do i really want to ace playthrough... im tired
>>749185978>What it does mean, is that Kate topsand likes you getting in the back.
>>749186012I did the whole fucking game with the F/A-18. Now its my turn to fuck shit up.
where is the god damn pornwhere is barefoot Kate
>>749185403How is this the last shit you say before you die? Shadow 150th were so weird.
>>749186012well, you got the first playthrough, then the one to get the assault records, then the one to get S on Ace... So you got time, spread it out a little
>>749185403based and obersteinpilled
>>749186012This but MP, atm. Singleplayer on ace is nice
<<Joker 3 took out one of the new models>>Tasha turns into a real killer huh?
>>749186110dogs are unironically a better friend to you than any other human will be or animal for that matter
>multiplayer doesn't work on linux.Oh... Guess I'm playing 0 then.
>>749186207She is learning from daddy Rex.
>>749181985>spirit of Torres posses a Erusean weapon designer>forces him to design a flying submarine drone carrier with nukes
>>749181985Command duty officer, turn off my inhibitor chip.
Fable 2 like DLC that gives you the ability to revive your dog Baxter
Yuktobania should have nuked Sotoa at the end.
Why are the Sotoans so comically evil?They make the Balkans saints by comparison.
>>749186595They're secretly Welsh.
will someone tell Pinky about opsec please
>>749186595Reminder not even the most batshit insane antagonist in AC is Belkan
>>749186593AC9 should be a prequel with the Yuktobania Sotoan war, it can mirror Zero in a way.
Also the FA-36 feels great to fly
>>749181313Because the average retard won't be able to wrap their head around rolling and adjusting pitch within 30 seconds and immediately shit their pants with impotent tard rage at flying straight into the ground.
>>749186534
>>749186595Just look at history bwoYou had the two kinds of nomads
>>749186696thats what having a midlife crisis does to you
>>749186836Why did they inscribe "A piece of shit" on his tag?
>>749186749But in GTA SA/5 thats exactly how aircrafts control, and they're like the most popular games ever.
>>749186719I want a short DLC campain where you play as Tasha's mom. And the framing device is Tasha's parents telling her stories while she was a little kid which caused her to fall in love with flying.
>>749186901He was Sotoan.
>>749186836>bwo>>>/vg/
>>749186719Yeah but how would they make it so people wouldn't want to exterminate every Sotoan they see?
>>749184576I've never been so hyped to obliterate some LARPing retards in my life.I got so into it I started responding to Dealer's lines like the actual LARPing retard I am in real life.
>>749186719Featuring a brotherhood of mercs.
Has the soundtrack been properly ripped? I don't see it on the usual videogame OST sites I checkThere's a few songs I wanna listen on repeat pretty bad
>>749187152>Joker 1 why are you so eager to charge towards the Shadows?>Cause I can't kick the shit out of them from over here!
>North Point has Mobius>FCU now has RayWhy is Erusea unable to make a mute psychopathic pilot that can win a war alone?
>>749187316They can just hire Cipher.
Quadrupedal mobile fortress when?
>>749187373the heavy howitzers in online's shilage map
>>749187421Something larger and more heavily armed, please
>>749187358Who?
>>749187179I felt it was a missed opportunity for the whole world to show up there just to beat the everliving shit out of the Sotoans. They would have had it coming.
Apparently you can get secret dialogue for Mission 8 if all the LCACs survive and make it to shore, I only saw a jap do it on xitter though.
>>749187609You're still thinking too smallhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_FBFkSU90
>>749187751If you save Jackpot 9 in this mission she shows up later in the campaign as well.
>>749187881Joshua is so cool
>>749187905>the biggest campaign of the series>actually, its all about multiple dialogues depending on your actions and performance
>>749187881Could Stonehenge take out the spirit of motherwill?I like to think yes, but I'm probably biased.
I hope in whatever the next game is they have a level in the Geofront from AC3. That shit would be so cool realized with modern graphics
>>749187669He must be some Belkan conspiracy theorist that believe a single pilot could blow up 3 different “””””ace””””” squadrons stationed in 3 different fronts all within the same hour, and then disappear without a trace after the war was over rather than accepting the Belkan Air Force was full of hopped up frauds still living through their “glory days”.
>1 LCAC survived mission 5Close!
>>749186534Will there be a DLC where Tasha actually finishes the homework that Baxter gave her to do?
>>749188129if a single ac with some rocket boosters could get in close enough to annihilate it i'm sure a bombardment of ultra high velocity railgun explosive rounds from several countries away could shred it to bits with no retaliation
Why can't I select the boss raid option in online mode? It's greyed out
>>749185882>Project Wingman>QT WSO wmaf wife>Ace Combat 8>QT Pilot wmaf wifeWhich way /v/
>>749188638it got temporarily disabled because they're working on a hotfix for it.
>>749188638It appears randomly after another sortie.
>Can't tell if moon 11 is listing off my inputs or I'm just a shitter doing what it says
>>749188845as far as i can tell it's input reading but it's so fast that it does genuinely feel like she's predicting your movements right before you do themi've seen some people say that you can throw her off by either flying really well or flying like a complete retard
>>749188710Prez is a little sister type.Kate is a true wife type.>>749188845Mooman 11 is just a shittier version of Crimson 1 from Project Wingman.
>>749188638the fun modes are locked behind RNG, prease understand gaijin
>>749188845I checked a few playthroughs because I was also not sure after beating her and she does call out the player's inputs once the Hortus Regis Alti phase starts until you hit her a few times and she starts her concession speech
>>749189092>watching a bunch of retards bring their LAAM spam F-14s and Foxhounds to Alicorn and Chandelier>fun
>>749189050>flying really well or like a complete retardGood thing I can do both at the same time
>>749186012the mission with shadow 22 is cancer on elite, I can't imagine doing it on Ace unless you're really good at machine gunning planes
>>749189151That is always funny to watch especially when they fail to shoot down as many aircraft as an attacker.
>>749178491AC 8, was very much worth the long wait. Such a beautiful game, always completely unmatched in story mode. I wish they made an anime
>>749189061crimson 1 had a good fight but memes aside he's easily the lamest trying-too-hard antagonist in any ace or ace-like
>>749189259>unless you're really good at machine gunning planes... We play ace combat games. Of course we're good at machine gunning planes.
>>749189151Watching retards in get obliterated by the Arsenal Bird Helios missiles is funny thoughbeit
>>749189312Guns haven't been good in an AC game in forever though. It's always missile spam.
>>749189320Not funny. I've been beaten by the arsenal bird cunt
>>749189151I haven't failed a raid after the first couple of days of early access. I think you're just bad at the game if you need the rest of the squad to carry you, anon.
>>749189304He does win the gaslighting trophy though.
>>749189151you literally have nothing else when youre a nugget.
>>749189259The bird is no match for the apex predator
>>749189564Your starter F-4 will do far more damage than either of those and can at least equip UBLs.
>>749182503The thing should have fallen like a pallet of bricks.
>>749180968not like you need a dedicated attacker that much this game, one of the F-18's gets QAAM which is enough
>>749182393PRESIDENT HARLING NO
>>749189367that's only because there hasn't been an ace combat game in forever, and ac7's gun is weaker than my morning piss streamac6's gun was an instant death laser
>>749189697and SODhaving both makes it the best plane for everythingmaybe if the mission is air only you can run something else with QAAMs
>>749189624Not without upgrading it. Granted most people have already got new aircraft by now but did feel dumb they didn't give players access to something with a ground attack payload option as well at the start.
Everflow being followed by Hortus Regis Alti and then the calm Hortus version while Cope talks about Tewy and his/our fate hit so fucking hard what a soulful game
>>749181436good one
only just finished the game and I have to ask but, was the shadow 22 fight like ridiculously more difficult than the rest of the entire game combined for anyone else?I have to fucking machinegun them out of the sky because they kept auto-dodging even QAAM's
>>749190043I just put a delay between each missile strike and he was a piece of piss?
>>749189697You do if you're going for the medal for playing every mission with an attacker
>>749190043shadow 22 is the easiest part of that fight, its his cronies that are the problem.
>>749190128dunno what I did wrong then, cause I was putting delays between missiles and launching some regular ones first as decoy
>>749190186meant the fight as a whole, but yeh did notice that he himself went down faster than the others
>>749190043Yeah it's a machine gun skill check. Too bad keeping guns on any of them for more than a split second is impossible with all the spiraling and 90 degree turns they're constantly doing. Or just EMLB on subsequent playthroughs lmao
>>749190043Yeah. First time I was going against him, I depleted all of my missiles and machine gun. I did it in the second try by blasting him nonstop with the machine gun.>>749190186It was the opposite for me. His squadmates were jobbers and he was the real monster in my game.
>>749188638It appears at random for 20 minutes or something. It's literal RNG
>>749180693they did the same shit in 7 abandoning the prisoner pilot shtick almost instantly
I asked Grok who would win in a fight of Trigger from AC7 vs. Rex from AC8. Do you have the guts to see the answer?
>>749178491id love to play ace combat today but it takes literally an hour to get into a mission from start up
>>749190446LLM's are retards who make common miatakes and are easy to manipulate depending on how you frame things, sar.
>>749190446It's not easy to decide who would win a fight between progatonists. Every discussion always boils down to poeple choosing their favorite game's mc. But there's two that people are eager to put as the strongest aces: Mobius 1 and Cipher.
>>749190549Worse, it literally just scrapes the internet for content. So more people saying "X is super duper powerful" than there are people saying "Y is super duper powerful" means X wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTsCNdwGCqIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmcRO4D6cM
>>7491904047 was rather blatantly unfinished story-wise and it's damn shame because there actually WAS a good story to be told make the comms-blackout happen way earlier, while you're still in prison squad, everything turns to chaos and infighting and you do the "raid to survive" thing right afterbasically go from prison squad to mercenaries with some route optionsthen go more in on the drone thing, spread out the war in time a bit more, every side running out of pilots, switching to using more drones to replace them and go with the drone AI taking over a bit earlier and have the threat of an AI system capable of prolonging the war endlessly be present for more than just the literal last god damn mission would even be neat if Trigger squad remained one of the 2 (together with Sol) entirely human squads
Yuktobanian or Belkan protag when?
>>749189050>throwing her offYeah I had her say some things like "where?" and "I'm in the dark" , things like that but I guessed that it was just fixed things to imply that (you) are getting better before killing herGenuinely impressed it's an actual thing
>>749190446only thing I'm wondering about Trigger is where the fuck was he during the whole attack on the Lighthouse did they literally have to put him in a strait jacket and padded cell to prevent him from taking off and fixing that nonsense?
>>749190446It's like a game of rock paper scissors, but I think Trigger would be at the topMostly because at the end of the game he was fighting 2 AI drones with the flight data of Mihaly (who was on par with Yellow13) and later his own flight data. He defeated himself twice basicallyThe real duel would be between Mobius and Trigger. The mere presence of Mobius can stop the enemy and I think that's pretty cool :^)
>>749190043>Surely they're out of flares now
>>749190828when they release the Sotoa-Yuktobanian war game after 8, comrade
>>749190654Honestly cipher ain't shit
>>749189151What's the meta then? UGB?
>>749190868This but Mobius for 2 games, wondering where Trigger is is retarded since Trigger is Osean. We go to all sorts FCU places and Mobius is called for reinfocements once.
>>749190868Most Ace Combat Protagonists seemingly retire/quit after their game, aside from Mobius, and based off the sale celebration images Trigger probably just left the military to screw around with Avril in the desert. It has been like a decade so who even knows where Trigger is at that point. Maybe he died in a Jet accident.
>>749191062Opteration battleaxe during AC5 being that one time, I mean
>>749190868I've seen this post so many times, why did everyone forget that Trigger is Osean and Osea 'not my problem' about the entire war.
You get 2000 zog dollars from the multiplayer game modes. If you RNG into the emergency sorties and pop a boost you'll get 10,000. Good luck with that if you're playing alone you might as well fuck yourself.Also 5 General Blueprints a day max, the Japanese love their bullshit grinds.
>>749190868He's probably retired back in Osea with his Tomboy wife and 2 kids.
>>749190868Trigger is happily pumping babies into his hot mechanic, sweaty, tomboy wife. He can't just go risking his ass fighting wars anymore.
>>749191057unguided bombs have always been the fastest and most accurate way to win. only the most easy mode novice refuses to use UGB in dog fights
>>749190868Trigger is with the Osean airforce, not FCU.
>>749191235I mean Enso's whole plan hinged on Oseans and Yuktobanians eventually intervening if things got bad enough. FCU is just lucky Ray existed.
>>749191023okay, pixy
>Dogfighting shadow 22 and goons>Can't land a single missile>Flare and pcm spam>>Fuck this>Fly as far out in a straight line as I can>Turn around and joust with machine guns>They go down like paperAm I retarded or are they retarded?
>>749190868Ignoring the fact that trigger is from osea, I like to think that most MCs from ace combat retire and don't want to have nothing to do in another war, considering the sheer amount of carrying they have to do for their respective affiliationExcept MobiusAlso I liked that reference to Blaze from Nagase, probably the only reference to another protag we get in another ace combat
>>749190828Never ever, you need evil Su-57s
>>749191057UGBs are a decent option.But fighters do fuck all damage even if you're good at loitering and maximizing gun and missile time on the ground targets, especially against the Alicorn since it fucks off due to the class penalty, so bring at least a multirole with a A2G SP Weapon.
>>749191382knowing that everything leads up to AC3 makes the whole Enso thing feel mildly bitter those rat bastards at the top got away with everything
>>749191442I like that the Sotoans all had different ppanes and the big bad having an F-22 was fun.
>>749191403Just how AC ZERO taught us
>>749183287The Unsung War is probably the second best piece of video game composition ever, what the fuck are you on
>>74919150922 flew a su-57the niggers that jumped cruz were in f-22s
Why is this so funny.
>>749191579CUM HISTORIA
>>749191403I took out like 3 of them that way in less than a minute
>>749178491I want them to call it Wings of Redemption, and then get into a legal dispute with Wings.
>>749191675MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ
>>749191545It's stupid effective against them and when Moon 11 starts trying to aim her railgun.>fly a plane descended cirect from the the ADFX-01>make the exact same piloting errorKino.
>>749191782I just blind-fired a couple missiles ahead at her when she did that and somehow one of them got the killcouldn't stop laughing
>>749191660Reminds me of this.
I liked it better when it was just Rex as WIngs with the single red wing on his plane. I thought the hand/five wings thing was lame. I know Ace Combat loves this campy shit, but the whole hand of hope shit felt forced and out of nowhere.
>>749191057MP is heavily balanced around plane stats, Fighters even with ground SpWs do fuck all to ground targets because of their low Air-To-Ground stat, you're better off bringing a low level attacker than a high level fighter to Alicorn/Chandelier where the bulk of the raid is ground targets.
I cannot stop rolling my eyes at this story. My god the further I get into it the more stupid this is, also insanely predictable. I get it, I shouldn't expect much with ace combat but goddamn it's so fucking silly and stupid. land battleship... I get it these games need a bug wunderwaffe bad thing but jesus christ it's retarded
didn't ask
>>749189259I was thinking maybe you can semi active radar missile them. I didn't try it.
>>749186678>The Cannery was a decoy>they told Tasha because her opsec over open comms is absolute DOGSHIT
How come you can never fly the Harriers?
>>749192363It is silly and stupid. I really expected something better. It's current year and they couldn't come up with something better than the older games.
BAXTER YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
>>749192506I was thinking the same thing, it's a pain to try and nail them with machine gun fire >>749192363they somehow took the worst parts of AC5 and AC7 whilst butchering AC0's squadronsthe land battleship were okay, but there's no real need for the to be land battleships. Just having a heavily armored battleship with heavy defenses and railguns would have been equally good. In fact that's what AC7's DLC basically were
>>749192363the arsenal birds had friggin scifi energy shields and still felt more believable than those things
>>749192282I liked that Rex's symbol evolved into its own thing rather than just being the one imposed at first
>>749192897I guess they wanted to go all in on the theme of the Sotoans being nomads so they hoisted their battleships on landwhat really gets me though is that they have these mega floats and then never made those into mobile superweapons
>>749180693Maybe because it would be too close to AC5. It does sound like a cooler concept than "escort these same land troops for the 6th time"
>>749192635Why wasn't this a multiple minute long scene of Jenkins chewing them out
RAILGUN WARNINGRAILGUN WARNINGRAILGUN WARNING
>>749193017if they really wanted the nomad thing just give each shadow squadron their own distinctive flavour instead of being a generic shadow squadron. Look at how much charm the mercs had and they only appeared a handful of timesI just did the megafloat mission and it was...disappointing. It's a worse version of the platform mission from AC7 because they put so many explosives around the platform it's not an actual challenge to destroy them, and the platform itself has no super weapon besides the railguns
>>749193163to be fair, AC7 also gives us PLSL to clown on those platformsI can't imagine the sheer slaughter if we had any PLSL equipped planes of this game
>>749191780REVELAT IPSUM
>>749189259Use SASMs and they're free kills.
>>749178491I didnt understand the story for the ac7 dlc
>>749192363>doesn't appreciate land battleships Look at this fag
>>749193326figures, having the shadows appear at the end of a really fucking long hairball fight only to discover I had the shittiest loadout to deal with them was kinda annoying>>749193348insane guy steals super weapon sub and wants to use it to scare the world into world peace
>>749190446Your hypothesis is trash
>>749191660A sad Pixy launches the V2. Don't make Pixy sad.
>>749190043i killed him in a single machine gun burst at the very start of the fight when the shadows reach the battlefield and split into 2 groups. I activated steam's auto-recording after that so i don't miss shit like this ever again>MFW watching 22's defeat cutscene
>>749193348>super sub that was thought lost for 2 years is found and recovered>instead of giving the crew psych evaluations/treatment they just send them back out>captain and his cult crew go rogue>captain uses the trolley problem as justification to get a sick mlg 360 no scope with his nuke railgun on a major population center>(You) stop him
did anyone else find the whole social media/misinformation plotline was half baked? I thought there would be a bigger blowback from the cabin fever islanders breaking the news, instead it's literally the same before but>hey's it's wings>that fraudat least some sort of shitstorm online and people's faith in the FCU collapsing
>>749193618The plot, despite it being way more focused than AC7, is still half-baked. It isn't four different scripts stapled together, but they still kind of failed.
>>749193618katabuchi is a hack, more news at 11
>>749193613I started firing missiles when he was locked and said his "the enemy is behind me" line and eventually he was kill
>>749193902crazy that they went with 30 missions when the actual story doesnt do that despite having the most screentime>keep the cope-wings plotline and ray racking up kills whilst pretending to be wings>change it so that cope is the only one that ends up being downed>make the cope-luna relationship pay off earlier, have it so that luna knew who wings was and was trying to capture him>luna discovers cope is dead, and instead recruits wings into shadow squadron>meanwhile FCU replaces Ray with another wings>Ray flies as part of shadow squadron whilst hearing continuing to hear stories about "Wings">final fight is confrontation between Ray and the new Wingsthis would require changing the story and turning FCU into the bad guys, or just making Satoa have the Wings gimmick, and it's kind of a rehash of the convict squadron from AC7
>>749190446rex con cope posesión wins
>>749192897If you make them just regular battleships then you're committed to more open water maps and those get old faster than deserts, plains and mountains
>>749185405Kek this is an old ass meme.I forgot about this one until today.
Were those linked sams only in one mission?
>>749178491Jpeg Dog escort mission
>>749187373Armored Core For Answer has that giant arms fort that walks.
>>749193618yes. practically everything but one or two things was half-baked.
>>749189061>Mooman 11 is just a shittier version of Crimson 1 from Project Wingman.No, anon, (you) are Crimson 1
>>749180693>cool premise>abandon it as soon as possibleit keeps HAPPENING
>>749180968They could have easily put the F-14B in.
>>749178491Rex is used to test a second revision of the neural bridge but it is a simulation, it gets infected with the ghosts of dead aces and you have to help them pass on by reliving their most famous missions.Also it's multiplayer mode only.
could have been interesting if instead of land battleships the Sotoans had convoys with big but still reasonably sized trucks that held their barracks/planes and they used combination of drones and sheer training to erect air based wherever the fuck they wanted like go all in on the mongol vibe, maybe even have as surprise being they can emergency-launch fighters straight from their trucks with some advanced catapults
>>749191130twice. if the 7VR is canon that was the last time Mobius 1 was in action.
Holy shit FUCK mission 15 what in the fuck is this bullshit.
>>749193618I don't think we'll have a definitive AC story until Katabuchi is retired.Every fucking time it's the same underwritten, unfocused bullshit
>>749194281I think it'd work better if Rex started off as a Sotoan pilot that defected/got betrayed/got shot down and (eventually) sided with the FCU because of all the warcrimes that Sotoa were comitting. That version of Rex would also be a mix of current Rex and Cope (childhood connection to Tewy, Refusal to shoot down enemy fighters, etc etc)
>>749195202bro your Mig31?
>>749195202it gets much worse the more you play
>>749195202Equip two different AAmissiles and cycle between them instead of waiting for a reload.
>>749195202just wait until they start doing post-stall maneuvers in a hypersonic bomber Really though Sotoa should have just built a fleet of those things rather than their land battleships
>>749195202Either max out top speed and take tighter corners to get behind them close enough to lock or stay with the boats, watch for when they approach to bomb and joust with mg
>>749195303im seriously annoyed. they marketed and shilled this game to hell and back, this was probably the most mainstream ace combat has ever been and we get this subpar writing barely better than 7.whats worse is people are eating it up anyway. like i get it but its becoming unacceptable to come up with something like this in 2026
>>749195506same thing happened with 7 on launch, couldn't have a discussion on /v/ without people defending it because they were so desperate for a new game
>>749183624God I hope they slap that paint on every eagle. Give us the single seater s/mtd from 4, make it a catapulter and put galm livery on it. Fuck it.
>>749195617Are we pretending that the previous AC games were well written now?
>>749195487I loaded these niggers with ALL of my 4AAMs and a bucketload of MG and missiles. Neither of them went fucking down and THE TIME LIMIT IS A LIE SINCE THE MISSION FAILS AT 10 MINUTES ANYWAYS LMAO>>749195350I'm not asking to bring a fucking A-10 let me bring the FUCKING PLANE THAT YOU HAVE 6 DIFFERENT FUCKING VERSIONS OF.
>>749195402PSMs are easy to deal with. It's the fucking speeds. I can't do anything to catch up so I either have to do bullshit gay as fuck pre-knowledge of knowing where they'll fly too or do jousting like that other anon said.
The dialogue for this game gives me serious ChatGPT vibes. And all the qte’s are actively pointless and shouldn’t have been in the game why are devs retarded niggers like this
>>7491956943 and 0 were. 4 was pretty good as well for what it was going for
>>749193475You should have stuck with Trigger. Then you would have made it.
I swear to god DD pogging the fuck out over his view count at the end was was the corniest shit I've ever seen. I love it.
>>749195694no, we're saying there's been overall no ground gained in the writing department.on the sound design department this is easily the best game. graphics or technical stuff, probably, as well. but the writing hasn't improved.
>>749193348You got your dirty boots all over his crisp white sheets!
>Going through the recordsIt's fucking insane how many of these pilots die. I kind of expected a lot more to survive. At least this guy became an ice cream salesman.
>>749195965My favorite is the skinwalker.
>>749195819The dialogue has been like this even before chatgpt was a thing. It's a feature.Agreed on the QTEs tho
>>749195694No but as the games have become more sophisticated and the writing tries to stand on its own rather than merely acting as window dressing the shortcomings become more obvious.4 and Zero both focus on disconnected vignettes which by their nature are much less demanding to write than a linear plot with interleaving characters.
>Shadows show up at RE4 village looking all snazzy in their pre-WW1 uniforms>talks about honour and mundane shit>maybe they aren't so bad after all>proceeds to murder Queens in their chutesHoly fuck these assholes are bigger war criminals than Belkans or Mercenary Cypher. I didn't even feel bad shooting down the F-35 nuggets afterwards.
>>749195770Do you have the credits to put a wingman in an electronic warfare plane? It's a good crutch
>The mole people were hiding planes literally how
>>749195819you'll do well to remember that the dialogue was localized from Japanese which is of course, typical shounen anime scripts.>No way!>It can't be!>Even if you say that... It can't be helped.>It's time to use... that.that sort of stuff.
>>749196259In the ground
>>749196259They're literally mentally insane they probably just took them apart down to screws to take them into the tunnels and reassembled them when needed.
>>749196097Yeah I might have too. I was gonna save up for the EA-18 for Tasha but guess her ass is going into an EA-6
>>749195914>no ground gained in the writing department.As a writing fag and appreciator myself, it is with regret that I must admit that most people simply don't care about stories, at all. To an extent you can get away with this in a video game. Ace Combat is a prime example of that. So long as the flying is good, the story doesn't really matter. A good story would certainly make the game better, but most people aren't even capable of appreciating well written stories.Ironically, as much as I do like good writing, I don't really care for this game, as I bought it for the flying. Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred a better story for the game, but for the most part, I'm able to ignore it here. Personally though, I would have cut back on the stupid first-person high end graphics wank and actually clued the player into what's happening in the world and let the characters get more of a personality.Oh well, such is life.
>>749196403>I actually don't.I hate this fucking game.
>>749196491I got through that mission without one but it took a couple tries. just gotta get up on them shoot them with the gun a little then fire missiles
>>749195965Does he do the annoying Turkish ice cream thing where he keeps pretending he gives you the ice cream but takes it away at the last second?
>>749179673what's this temu-shinkawa artwork
>>749196097EW planes did literally fuckall for me, I never noticed it affecting anything
holy shit that is not how I remembered flying in Zero was like this feels like ass, 8 spoiled me bros
>>749184576That was great, genuinely felt like (You) were a rabid attack dog that was finally unleashed
>>749196462>Ace Combat is a prime example of thatI hate to say it as another writing appreciating faggot but you're rightI legitimately don't give a fuck about the game's plot beyond whatever excuse it needs to put me in a fighter jet and fight other fighter jets. I don't need a brilliantly written deep story. I want to be a war hero in a game that's giving me a shallow "war is bad" plotline
>>749195815bro, check your map, their green EW zones are visible even on strategic and tactical maps, you can joust them that way
>>749195202Holy shit FUCK mission 15 what in the fuck is this bullshit.Just use your guns bro :)
>>749196581Did you enable SpW? It's not a constant buff like Allied planes
I'm getting filtered by the last moment of the last mission. The sub won't sink.What the fuck. I actually don't understand.
>>749196679Bro your F35 LACM spam?
>>749196662yes I did, never noticed it and then 5 seconds later they go "out of special weapon ammo"
>>749180541Where even are the refugees supposed to be? In that big access tunnel we fly through in 7? There isn't any room for anybody aboveground.
>>749196679spam the ground special weapon on the F-35
>>749196462I still enjoyed the game, sure. but I'm really craving for that kind of story, you know. I don't like being strung along and being left hanging because of a subpar story that honestly could have been better.yes, it's serviceable, but as it stands right now with this kind of writing, there will always be a "what if this was written differently and better" left on the table, and it's just kind of sad.
>>749196697>F35>Not going with an SU-57 so you can QAAM the missiles out of the air and then LACM the sub into submission I got S rank and the medal on first try with that plane
Are the guided bombs the F-22 has a joke or something?They can't even take out a tank in one hit
>>749196697>>749196739I'm was in an F-22 spamming missiles, bombs, and machine gun.Completely took the wind out of my sails. And the bombs reload too slowly. You'd only get one volley off. How many targets need to be destroyed anyways?
>>749196056The nuggets did in fact deserve it. Fuck them and fuck sotoans in general.
Man, the F-35 sure is ugly.
>>749196837I think it doesn't matter until it's 700m or less away from the Endurance.
>>749196709you keep them in cover when you use it because it affects an area around the user, it turns your missiles into bullets
>>749196709apparently, someone in these threads said, i havent tried it myself: if your wingmen are equipped with ESMs you are supposed to micromanage their usage of it very carefully, or they will burn through them very quickly if you toggle special weapon perms on
>>749196818guided bombs are a huge memealso, Air to Ground stat affects damage
>>749196746>There are S*khoifags in my threadHow horrible
>>749196837the F-22 bombs are completely worthless, don't bother with that plane for anything that needs ground attackingyou're flat out better going with UGB
>>749196910better than the UGLY PIG that is the F-35
>>749196863That's why I don't really like using it.>>749196874>>749196959If I get in the F-35 and it's really easy I'm going to be mad and Ace Combat 8 will forever be a 7/10 in my book because of it.
>>749196910not my fault the devs decided it's the only 5th gen with a good loadout
>Mission 08CAN YOU GUYS BLOW UP LITERALLY ANYTHING I CANNOT BE IN 8 PLACES AT ONCE
>>749196992you can get in the Suk instead
>Shilage pilots show up>no Sol members >>749178491
Sotoans are not good pilots. They rely on perfidy to get their kills, or overpowered planes. If they didn't first strike with the spears, and then have insane Enso Order tech, they'd get their shit stomped. Fuck, even the thousand points of light mission shows just how fucking dogshit they are that even numbers can't help them.
>>749197037I went NATO and now I am poor.Bamboozled by democracy again...
>Tasha is consistently shown to have a sort of 6th sense about flying and the pilots, able to notice stuff before anyone else (even AWACS) and is basically a genius in a plane. Easily the second best in Joker squad>Tasha casually drops that her mom is a pilot on par with Wings/Tewy/Cope??? Who the fuck is her mom?
>>749196641Hey man, it's okay. Just because we appreciate good writing, doesn't mean that everything we like has to have good writing. I also just want to be in the fighter jet and fly. It's kind of why I've actually been dipping into the online mode so much and it's made me pretty slow at going through the main campaign. I've completed mission 12 so far, but I've also got a level 10 F-14D for online play.
>>749197151Find out in 12 years when AC9 drops.
>>749197057>no sol membersyeah no shit buddy, you killed them all.
>>749197057bruh, they all died against Huginn and Muninn canonically only Trigger and Count made it out of that battle alive
>>749197057Sol was Mihlay's squad.Makes sense Shilagians retired the squadron when Mihlay got military tribune'd
>>749197223actually the ravens took care of at least one (but only if you're shit)
Is the Shilage chick Mihaly's granddaughter?
>>749197151Tasha's mom is a news anchor. its in one of the pre-release skits they put out to promote the game. she's reporting on the ground in Theve while its getting bombed to kingdom come.
>>749197151Sorry to tell you chud, but aviation skills can often come from generational knowledge, whether it's a parent who teaches you info from a young age, supports your childish goals into adulthood, or gets you into flying as a teenager. t. 2nd gen flyer
>Hold Y for dogfight-modeFellow Horizon Brahmin, we're not yet forgotten; even if it's only for a couple cutscenes
>>749197281Not unless one of them changed their first name and started dying their hair
>>749196548>>749196491It took every round of MG ammo, all my 6AAM and QAAMs and about 80 standard missiles. But I nailed those fuckers just before Fuschus 2 dropped the last payload.I love this fucking game.
>>749197293What the fuck are you talking about, did you even play the game? Amd the news anchor was Jackpot 9's mom.
>>749197151>tfw: Baxter goes "Tasha...Tasha....nevermind, Coster! You're his wingman now
>>749197341>6AAM>He fell for the meme
>>749197372I needed all the AA missiles. Also multiple tone go brrr
>>749197293wtf that was her? that news anchor was from the FCU and low key got bombed. Tasha is Yuktobanian.
>>749196959They're good for literally anything but tanks, they clear out clusters of AA and SAMs trivially and they can even shit on ships because CIWS doesn't seem to be able to trigger on them
>>749196910you can't possibly suggest the shitty F35 over the Su57, let alone the fucking Raptor
>>749197341and now to tell you that you can just alternate targets while there's still 2 of them around to take out the missile launchers of the one you want to take down second and put his engines into 1 missile away from death state before shooting down his buddy and having him go sicko mode
>>749196743I was feeling like the story was pretty bad right from the get go, so I was able to shrug it off really quickly. I've also reached a point where I just accept that japanese writing in video games will be nonsensical, but might be able to evoke a feeling.Geez. Just typed that out and feel like I'm part of the problem now with my "...I just accept that..." bit. I haven't lowered my standards on story telling, but I think I may have lowered my overall expectations of it these days.
I WILL BLOW UP ALL THE SOTOAN YURTS
>>749197464Yeah I kinda noticed I could do that towards the end but I just wanted this bitches DED
>>7491973986AAM will hit less targets than 4AAM it's easier to hit something mid-flight with an UGB than one of those
>>749197465I've not seen anyone mention it but I thought the prologue and some of the first cutscenes have a slightly dreamlike quality to them with the constant cutting forward and Ray being mute whilst everyone talks to him. Which is at least kind of interestingunsurprisingly this seems complete unintentional
https://youtu.be/gRa3MPLLR7Qbig fan of whatever the fuck this guitar be doing
I left Shadow 22 for last because I wanted him to see his friends die and then I accidentally killed him in a burst of machine gun fire.
>>749197293>pre-release skitsWait a minute. Is this why I didn't know what was going on at the start of the game? Were we actually expected to watch these things? Fuck.
>>749197581I was ready for him to bail out in the end and parachute down giving you the option to shoot him down or not
>>749197465the thing is i have gone thru some absolute kino from Japanese media do i know that they can do it. i will never not want better writing because how much more kino it makes the game is exponential.
>>749197293wrong, tashas mom is a yuke ace that shot down tewy in the satoan-yuke warnews anchors daughter is jackpot 9>says she flies a harrier>same last name
>>749197626no. It's self contained, and we never see Blade Squadron again. There's a News anchor who's daughter became a pilot though and in-game some NPC mentions her mom being a news anchor once
>>749197410Tasha's mom is important, the bandwagoners are talking out their asses again. She's a foid and I rarely pay attention to them, but there was something about physical therapy and a medal she got.
>>749197626You're supposed to not know what's going on at the start, it's called in media res
>>749197768>tashas mom was an ace in the yuke-satoan war>shot down moon 11 and made her a cripple>tashas mom was also shot down but survived>met tashas dad because he was her physical therapist during recoveryits that simple
>>749197660>gone thru some absolute kino from Japanese mediaYeah... you know what, I have too. It just feels like it's been a while. So I guess I've started to associate lower quality with them. Or not necessarily lower quality, but definitely things like a lack of subtlety. I.e., her name is Fragile because she's fragile, the ship's name is Endurance because it endures the entire game, etc.
>>749197830But how tasha was born...
>>749197830Bro, thanks for spoiling the story!!
>>749197874he gave her his big russian asiatic siberian cock and produced tasha from the wreckage
>>749197573math rock, according to my music nerd friend
>>749197858the names are the least of the problems.
>>749197886its been a week (more if you count early access which you should)
>>749197886it's in the fucking companion book you absolute belkan
>>749197775Except that Rex is never stated to have amnesia or anything like that, so we really should know what's going on. None of this being on a life raft, hearing that this is the 4th time you've been shot down, and not having a clue how or why.The intentional withholding of knowledge from the player doesn't work when your character would know the knowledge.
>>749197858navies really do name their ships shit like "unsinkable" and "dauntless" though so its not out of pure original thought
We're at a weird spot in the AC timeline now. Either we do prequels like the Yuke-Satoan war or commit to an AC3 ending and go even further into sci-fi territory. I think it would be interesting if AC9 was about another Ace in UPEO or something. Some unknown factor in the Nemo Simulation. You're in the middle of the inter-corporate war duking it out and try to prevent Nemo from doing its thing. But really that would just end up being a AC3 remake in a roundabout way but it's a decent way to get out of writing yourself into a corner with AC3.
>>749197948It was just an example to easily point to. I've no desire to go into a full on essay on the common problems in the modern writings of Japanese media.
>>749198015could always just ignore 3, push the time electrosphere takes place back 20 odd years and go from there
>>749198015>Nemo is turned loose after AC3>it's up to you to stop it from blowing every plane out of the sky
>>749197993Pfft. If only our ship's names were still cool like that. All ship names now are things like the USS Cocksuker, named after senator Cocksucker, to inflate his ego so he'd vote in favor of a bill that would fund the building of the ship.Anyway, looking forward to the mission in which we meet up with the FCU Cowardice, which will coincidentally flee from the enemy at the first sign of danger.
>>749198015AC3 is a simulation anyway, so AC9 could be about saving Strangereal and preventing Electrosphere
>>749198021which is odd because i dont think Project Wingman did any better despite not being japanese
>>749198051It's a bit late for that. You already have the neural bridge, Game prototype, Night Raven prototype, NUN mention, and GR absorbing all that research in AC8 alone.
Okay, as a relative newfag to the Ace Combat series, what the hell is this Electrosphere from AC3 I keep seeing people reference? It sounds like it resulted in the end of the world from the way people talk about it.
>>749198115>FCU Cowardice, which will coincidentally flee from the enemy at the first sign of danger.No it'd actually fight to the death to subvert your expectations think about it bro.
>>749198139well it was deliberately trying to emulate a Japanese series
>>749198142how long can they stall? 5 years max? how many games could you squeeze out from 8 to 3 timeline wise?
Sotoans aren't even human and I'm glad Belka wasn't involved with this plot because I was getting bored of them.
>>749182440Why would you need that? Cope has plenty to say on that matter throughout the last 5 or so missions and the traditional Sotoan song is Hortus Regis Alti. And he's a fucking ghost, losing his emotions and passion is a big part of his character so he wouldn't be singing. Thank god you're not a writer.
>>749198171They wouldn't have the guts.
>>749198169>corporations take over the worldthats pretty much the gist of it, in the end national borders stop existing and the world is reduced to corporations fighting over territory. i guess it really puts a downer on the ending of 8 to think of that future being 10 years away huh?
>>749196992Yeah, I got it with the 8AGM spam.Why did they choose to ruin the otherwise awesome end of the game with such a dumb mechanic lolThat was the worst segment in the entire series.
>>749198169Full dive sao shit
>>749183593Part of me really wanted D.D. to fade away into nothingness when he said this
>>74919820410 more years until electrosphere.For reference, 4,5,6 have roughly 1-2 years in between them so 3-4 entries minimum
>>749198245NTA, but if I was the writer, I wouldn't be including a supernatural element in a game that tries to sell itself as grounded in reality with the biggest stretches being advanced tech.
>>749198292>Picture it Three Strikes>One Million>ONE. MILLION. VIEWS.
>>749198292I expected a gunshot, not gonna lie. Or a missile on his head.
Name a more bullshit Ace fight
>>749198296The supernatural element is what makes AC8's story work. The contrast between the human soul, the afterlife, and the future of sublimated AI pilots is the cornerstone of this type of sci-fi. Retards like you probably don't understand why newtypes exist in Gundam.
>>749198204next game could be about sotoa vs yukesthen maybe one more about the war that breaks the camel's back with regards to the general populace being sick of national governments having a war every 5-10 yearsthen maybe a prelude to 3 covering the intercorporate war (assuming it happens outside the simulation)
AC8 is hopecore, but ultimately the bad guys win when you think about AC3. But also the bad guys lose because they wanted globalism so that they'd have more power without government being in the way. In the end, it just ends up being a world with borders in a different skin. Countries fighting each other and defending their territory or corporations fighting each other defending their territory. Just ended up the same. Intentional writing or coincidence kino?
>>749198261That sounds like ass. How is the idea overall received by the AC fans? Would most be okay if new games acted like that ending never happened? Like how Star Wars fans would be okay with all the disney movies being retconned out existence without even an explanation.
Just when you thing AC can't get more retarded, they constantly impress with new levels of retardedness never before seen.
>>749198392AC3 has never been more canon thanks to AC8.
>>749198296it's just newtypes vs. uploaded consciousness
>>749198392No, everyone loves Electrosphere and the bleak sci-fi future it entails.
>>749198378>The supernatural element is what makes AC8's story work.Buddy, the AC8 story doesn't work.
>>749198392mixed from what I've read.Many people thought 8 would retcon 3 not lead to it.Now it's a matter of "what happens next", how will Strangereal end if it does?
>>749198392AC8 only really cemented it as being super canon and basically unretconable at this point. It'd be like the ending of The Force Awakens where it ends on Luke and the next movie starts in a completely different place and no one brings it up.
>>749198378its probably the only way it works given how half-baked it is. just handwave the stuff you cant figure out or explain away by oh theres ghosts>>749198189which is sad because the gold standard for these kinds of games is still Descent Freespace
>>749198438yeah, it's great
>>749198392The shadow force pulling the strings of conflicts has been a part of the series DNA since Ace Combat 2.
>>749178491Is Belka behind the events in AC8?
>>749198392In Ace Combat governments collectively eat lead paint so it makes sense people would want to try something else
>>749198538No it was crypto jews and Belka got hit by a missile again which is really funny.
>>749198538conspiracy theory
I think it would've been cool to have a fight with the Shadows and have one of the more outgoing Jokers tell Coster to crank his music up in response to their chanting and interrupt it
>>749196563Decidedly Belkan behaviour.
>>749198479I see. I'm still only on mission 13 of the campaign. Taking my time going through it, but I guess I'll find out.
>>749198392AC3 is fucking radical. The stories in these games are anything but subtle, but in 8 they actually did a good background job of painting the average citizen as getting real fucking tired of governments' inability to not get into massive international wars every few years.
>>749198015I don't think we're getting a prequel. I don't think there is enough there for a full prequel and we really don't need another entry where the Sotoans are the main enemy. Maybe that will be the DLC.
>>749198538Obviously it will be revealed as true in the DLC
>>749198378New types exist in Gundam because the writer thought it was cool, there’s no deeper meaning behind it
>>749198538No, Belka lost control of everything now the world will continue to eat shit without them even doing it
>>749184576>>749187152People say that Rex gets hyped up less compared to previous AC protagonists but man they have a way of doing it in 8 that just makes it hit different. This being the first time you get really let loose to fuck shit up on your own with all that build up was great.
>>749198561If you ask an Afghani about literally anything bad there's still a good 50% chance they'll blame the British for it. I have zero doubt people in-universe think literally everything is a Belkan plot.
>>749178491You play as Simon from AC3 and you just code random AI programs that will eventually form Nemo.
>>749198569isn't that literally what happens the first time you run into them and Rex says NO to running away
>>749198538I'm honestly surprised the game didn't make Belka the bad guys again
>>749198604https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbg0j_LHkwThey're coming head on???
>>749198574Probably doesn't help that fighter jets are as common as bicycles and everyone gets one on their 5th birthday and flies casually.
>>749198649I'm actually glad they didn't
>>749198604I feel like it's actually well done at the start. Your team is very used to the cope and seethe routine of flavian doctrine and have to start adapting to having hope again. It isn't just a straight away "oh cool we got one of them boneless soulless points-harvesting monsters"
>>749198628>China/Hongkong>North/South Ireland>Pakistan/India>East/South Africa>Israel/Palestineif the shoe fucking fits.....
Electrosphere 2: Deadcopy Boogaloo where you play as the real world copy of Nemo and take a sixth path that destroys Earth. You rebuild every superweapon that ever existed and kill deadcopies of every AC protagonist.
We got a lot of General Resources mentions but nothing really related to Neucom. DLC will be about a freak ass Neucom drone program you gotta shut down.
>Kate joins Joker Flight>starts coping about CopeThat was kinda weird.
>>749198684as they should. it really isnt that common to have a protagonist-level pilot in that world.
>>749198651I love Shadows. Such edgy faggots.>>749198684Yeah i like that it really feels like you have to earn your reputation.
>>749198628people typecast belka as germany, but they're just israel. up to and including nuking their own territory just to not lose their sacred land to the enemy
I want the next game to include Newtypes and AI pilots. I want the corporate dystopia vs corrupt ineffective government. Bio weapons, information warfare, social media, conspiracy theories, child soldiers.
>>749198684I like that one ground dude who keeps calling you a busta then turns around when you fuck up the land battleship
>>7491988328 just barely predates Neucom. It's around at this point in time but it didn't really get big until a bunch of ex-GR employees joined up in the mid 2030s.
>>749198832Young Simon shows up and he already has his iconic Norwood 3.
>>749198860>secondaries trying to warp the narrative to make Belka israel instead of Germanyboy oh boy, can't wait to see the mental gymnastics when Simon is introduced.
>>749198931Would hair implants have saved the world from Simon's wrath?
>>749198841there are probably only 8(9) or so of you on the ship who are with each other all the time, and besides Cope is allegedly pretty good. makes me wonder what would have happened if he didnt die
Why are the Fort Gray guys so schizo? It was only 2 months bros.
>>749197656I was waiting some evil speech but he just goes gg wp bro and then dies. It was pretty based.
>>749198889You could tell me that Ace Combat and Armored Core exist in the same universe just at different points in time and I'd believe you.
>>749198984They wouldn't been enough, he needs Yoko as his wife for him to truly be at peace.
>>749198841because Cope was an amazing pilot but he never got the rank Ace since he was a pacifist.You'd be curious too - so much skill and power and only doing environmental kills
>>749198742hey I didn't say they were wrong!
>>749198981>secondarysorry for pointing out that the shoe fits didnt play 3
So did anyone else think Cope was just a loser? He died and didn't make a difference because he refused to fight.
>>749199063what if he just used an EW plane. the ECM would suit him
>>749199106i mean, yes. overall he just wasted everyone's time. but the sotoans are honestly worse than him at almost everything.
>>749199101it sorta fits but 3 or Strangereal 2040+ will introduce literal Jews, complete with jewish names and jewish tricks
>>749199106he was good at maneuvering but he wasnt good at shooting guys down. in the intro he even gets a maneuver kill on one of the shadows in a felon, its not like he didnt have some skill
>>749199106Kinda, that said, i don't think i'd be able to pull the shit he does in the prologue without crashing a few times.
>>749199106Yes. It's made abundantly clear that Joker wing is a joke before you arrive.
>>749199106I don't need ghost powers to tell me the giant land battleship probably doesn't have shit guns on it.
>>749198538Indirectly. Enso order is Grunder rebranded which is Belka. Enso bankrolled Sotoa and gave them some fun toys and pointed them to a place to fuck up. But Sotoa clearly didn't have any qualms about it.
>>749199106He was a skilled pilot
>>749199106Honestly yeah wasn't a fan. He didn't kill Sotoans directly but was more than happy to create the circumstances of their death. Making them slam into a wall at mach 2 is still killing them. Distracting them so another squad or SAM shoots them down is still being involved in their killing. He just wanted to feel good. But hey I mean his name is Cope for crying out loud. And he definitely is good and what he does if he survived that long not firing his gun.
>>749199218And he was a good friend, too.
>>749199170oh holy shit i need to play 3 then. been waiting to do 1 and 2 first. 6 after 3. Will probably skip over X and AH
Is Belka the Israel of the StrangeReal universe?
>>749199259Germany
>>749199120never got the chance, I guess Enso/DD saw him in Theve and got the idea to make him an icon.>>749199106I'm guessing design conflicts caused that. There's lines implying Cope was aiding you/letting you use his skills. But there are also lines that you're very different from Cope
>>749199259Everyone knows Belka is Sweden
>>749199259it's Germany but they're doing Israeli things
>>749199286>There's lines implying Cope was aiding you/letting you use his skillsI was under the impression it was all you. Cope knew he could never live up to the propaganda which is why he's so pessimistic unlike you.
>>749199259They're an unholy mix between jews and nazi germany.
Turn on the TV they hit Hoffnung.
>>749199106Yes, he's literally THE COPE. You basically NTR his spirit while you're out becoming the legend he failed to live up to.
>>749199351as far as i remember, AC protagonists have always been nameless and practically self-reliant. was this the first time we had a ghost have to monologue for us in our heads? because ive said it before and ill say it again, i want to do my own self-talking and i dont really appreciate Sephiroth drawling sad stuff while im trying to fight a war
>>749198993There's no way Cope would've been able to turn the war around like you did with his unwillingness to shoot down Sotoans.
>filters you
>>749199367So just like real life then.
>>749199003Imagine you're hold up in dark rat tunnels for 2 months with threat of being murdered every single day by batshit crazy warcrime sotoans and then you learn the remnants of your countries military is faking combat data to make it look like they are winning when in reality the ace pilot has 0 kills
>>749198981>>749199259Honestly the comparison fits a lot than you'd think at first glance.>constantly at war with all its neighbors>extremely good at infiltration, falseflags and orchestrating wars between 3rd parties>very aggressive scorched earth policy rather than let enemy occupy you (Hannibal directive)As with other Strangereal countries, they're inspired by a mix of several countries. Their geography, language, history, culture etc. could all be based on different irl places rather than just one country that fits the whole description
>>749199106If I knew his name would be cope I would have named my character seethe
>>749199351yea, Cope is a weird add-on.If the narrative implied it's all because of Cope-ex-machina, the "feel-like-a-hero" angle kinda gets muted like Venom Snake in MGSV.PA just doing PA stuff and compromising across different story directors. I'm pretty sure one of the original ideas was having an unmute protagonist hence why Cope has such a big VA budget in Japan
>>749199418Seriously. People see that he looks like legally distinct Maverick and assume he must have been great, but we're never shown that.
>>749199485And then when said Ace Pilot shows up and rescues you, you expose him as a fraud, even though by that point he's actually legitimate and has well over 100 kills.
>>749199532He was absolutely a good pilot. We have too many sources that point to it being trueHe's just not a protagonist tier pilot.
>>749199601well to be fair they didnt know that the real ace was killed and was replaced with one of those only-comes-around-once-a-few-wars type of pilots
>>749199601They don't actually know that. For all they know he's still a fake ass nigga with 0 kills who just came to steal all the credit of protecting the base you just spent 2 months rat holing in
I wonder if the DLC will add the precursor to the Neucom Delphinus. The Game's precursor is already in, so adding the Delphinus is a no-brainer.
>>749199532nigga literally took down a Shadow 22 member in a dingy rust bucket without shooting a single bullet he was absolutely an amazing pilot
>>749199532you are shown that in the first 10 minutes of the game
>>749199526I think there should've been a morality system in the game with Cope being the embedded conscience commenting over the subvert atrocities you commit.>"We don't do that... IN SOTOA!"
>>749199601DD has been AI slopping Wings's achievements for months at that point, they have every right not to believe it.
>>749199503The problem is Strangereal has jews. nose hair and name. It's just they're in the shadows until Electrosphere when governments fall off and Globalists own everything.Let the Karls and Gunter be german and let the jews be jews.
>>749199825yeah but if that were the case they would need to kill the twist of him being a secret sotoan earlier. its as though he himself intentionally hides it from you. or that because he's a figment of your imagination he only knows as much as you do
>>749199887>or that because he's a figment of your imagination he only knows as much as you doHe's not imaginary, he says things only he would know and makes predictions that are accurate
>>749199638>>749199640I am aware of this. I was pointing out the irony of their actions. It's all a bit silly really.
>>749198589>there's no meaning to it because I'm retarded and don't understandWow, you really convinced me, retard!
>unlock my beloved Su-47>SAAM rarely ever hits anything compared to previous gamesFeels weird, they used to be almost guaranteed hits as long as you maintain reticle lock
>>749199750Bro, you don't get to claim credit for when other pilots fly into walls.>>749199786He got his ass shot down and then when you go on mission 1, the most basic bitch mission imaginable, his wing mates are amazed at your performance, clearly indicating that you're already doing things Cope couldn't. Face it, you're just coping over Cope.
Imagine if they do a Top Gun DLC again but all they add is the MiG-28 from the original movie. I'm aware that the MiG-28 is just a black Northrop F-5.
>>749200071aren't they more amazed that you're acting aggressive and actually zooming around to fuck shit up rather than hanging back ready to rabbit at the first sign of trouble to keep the legend of Wings alive
>>749199887It's fine keeping the twist, I'm more annoyed that we're "exposed" as a fraud despite turning the war around and making sorties and fleets go radio silent whenever Wings is around. But sure, ignore the weeping of widows and mothers. Their cries won't bring their sons and husbands back.
>>749200000nice quintsbuy the guidance 2 and flight speed 2 upgrade parts for a2a sp.w in the shop, i run the berkut with saam+hpaa for scrambles and it works very well
>>749200071maneuver kills are 100% a real thing though
>>749200071he MADE him fly into a wall stood his ground against 2 Shadow 22s and made one of them crash, I'd say he's more than a capable pilot
>>749200149it is dumb. and when i saw that i said these people should be lined up, court-martialed and shot in the back of the head twice.the fuck you mean youre hiding here not helping, im out there despite being a protagonist-level pilot can and will die, and you are actively being a detriment to what im doing
>>749185024Western game studios are incapable of creating female characters that are exactly 30 years old. They jump straight to 40 or they hire women who look 40.
>>749200184>>749200210You sound like the kind of guys that blame the enemy whenever you fly into a wall or the ground. Nobody made you fly into a wall. The pilot could have taken a path that didn't involve darting through the bridge.
>>749200338They could have, but they didn't.Clearly, he was more skilled at flying that a Shadow 22. He made it and they didn't.
>>749200338You can just admit you're in the wrong here.
>>749199848so, because Simon Cohen has a jewish last name and wants to manipulate events to start a war that might destroy the world and he gives 0 shits....he's jewish?Did I get that right?
Debra Wilson was alright, she's fine as the no-nonsense XO who occasionally shows her softer side. It's just some parts of her dialogue that sounds redubbed and have a different acoustic that kinda feels jarring. Like she has to do additional redubbing and did it from home or something.
>>749200272to be fair its implied multiple times they're actually crazy. as in its not as though they're all there and still think this its that they've been down there for two months and lost their shit. if they were 100% sane and were still like "yes well actually wings you are a liar" then fine, but they've been getting raped for months, then find out the kill counts are faked and they have good reason to doubt the dude in front of them is legit
I like to imagine this is how that guy looked in his last moments when he flew into that wall.
>>749200420>her only character trait is that she likes cakethat and she was dealers mentor, i guess, which is kind of alright if you consider she makes gambling references herself throughout, which you would just think is her playing off dealer at first
>>749200419I don't hate her performance in the game. I do, however, hate the constant use of mocapping an actor directly into games. It doesn't feel like I'm looking at a character, it feels like I'm looking at an actor. I didn't like Keanu or Norman doing it either
>>749200338and you sound like a guy who can't read.Cope is canonically a great pilot. He just doesn't shoot people
>>749200338hmm when i crash into the water from being disoriented from clouds or being too fast or onto something trying to bomb something , im not really sure who to blame except myself.
>>749200547I blame the water and the clouds, personally
>>749200540thats one of the most strange things in the story. he is in the military. Tasha also didnt shoot anyone and that makes sense because she's an acrobatic pilot/civilian. what does he expect to do in the military if he wont fight? he'll fight only if the enemy is who he wants? that's quite something, and he ought to have been another kind of pilot besides a fighter pilot.
>>749200419it was funny how she kept bringing up cake
Cope should of let me see my nigga Baxter one last time if he was going to come back for Mission 30
>>749200731Presumably he does a lot of what Tasha did early on - he baits pilots into AA/SAM range or sets up kills for other pilotsBut it's worth noting that this strategy has resulted in 3 other fighter squadrons being wiped out. Logically in the military he'd end up as like, a transport pilot or something non weapon oriented. But this is ace combat, not reality
>>749200731conscientious objectors are a known thing.Most of the time they are sent on suicide missions or medic roles.
>>749200837Getting one last pep talk from Baxter during the Moon fight would have been kino
>>749200837I think it's working under Newtype rules. So only other Newtypes can join the discord server
>IT'S THE HAND OF DEATH AIIIIEEEEEWell we sure got elevated to Demon Lord status fast after all the doubt and slander.
>>749200540He looks more eastern here slightly foreign
>>749200853this was also what annoyed me about Tasha early on.while being the protagonist and flung into leading a flight, we still don't really know for sure how well we will do, so if someone just flat out doesnt fight, people can die. and thats already happened with Cope. its just a very glaringly unacceptable thing that is just glossed over by everyone and you mostly cant or dont do anything about it.
>>749200731Well, it does happen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_DossMost of the time they're just sent into the frontlines so they'd either: need to shoot to live, just hide and drag bodies, or die
>>749200984to be fair it got a bunch of wingmen on your side shot down too
>>749200731I imagine that the majority of pilots never actually get a confirmed kill so as long as he was dumping some ammo as to not come back with exactly the amount he probably wouldn't even get noticed until they were so low on pilots they just had to work around it.
>>749200984You took out their Megafloat with 3 (THREE) pilots. I'd call that a portent of doom too if I was living on that place.
>>749200392About what? I'm not the one that's a corpse at the bottom of the ocean.
>>749200540You're falling for the propaganda and coping. You don't even get it and his name is right there screaming it in your face.
>>749200719I guess the real ace was the water all along. You ever try shooting at it? It just doesn't die.
Terminus Fingering Kate and Tasha at the same time
Whoever thought bringing back the weird ass assault horizon dogfight mode thing for the finale of the second last mission of the game and the final true air to air fight should be fired
>>749201740It was cinematic AF
>>749186901In case you're not meming, that's his blood type, A positive.
How do I git gud at dog fighting? Playing through 6 right now and even the lowest goon feels like an ace in 7 and 8, avoiding most missiles I send them. What are some good tips?
>>749201502>lore book>propagandaanon..... that's not how fiction and unreliable narrators work
>>749201647Those 2 want to jump on Rex so bad, I'm sure they'd be up for visiting your bunk for a post-war celebration
>>749201064Doss was medic though, that's the point. If he had signed up to shoot people and just hung around while his company died, he'd get his ass friendly fire'd at some point.
>>749195887bro pls react
>>749201535Water:>won against Jan Cope>won against Scinfaxi/Hrimfaxi>won against Alicorn>won against Triumphant>tanked several direct Trinitus Spear strikesWtf, hax
>>749202003Also won against that one Shadow that crashed in the introAlmost won against Kate too
>>749201978Doss was a famous case.There were many. many more that were just shot
>>749202003AC9 should let us play as water.
>>749202003>won against Scinfaxipretty sure that was the Arkbirb
>>749202003A real Ace Combat fan wins against water (shower) every time.
Just finished the game and my eyes are bloodshot from crying and my throat is hoarse from yelling "KINO" at the top of my lungs>The pointless "Press QTE to shake hands" bullshit was actually thematically relevant>mfw
