>cheap>easy to install>infinite potentialIs this the future of vidya?
>>749236952kill yourself street shitter
nobut it's the future of pornography
>>749236952>STDamn, I miss 2024
>>749236952>shittytavern>sloppytavern
>>749236952>Is this the future of vidya?You're brown or underageIt is the immediate future of smut, however. That much is impossible to disagree with.
>>749236952what do you even do in this?
>>749236952>open up Silly Tavern>type in a prompt>cum before the first response>leaveI miss when Silly Tavern was fast
>>749237028>>749237086>>749237102Why are woketrannies so afraid of AI?
>>749237309Putting a label on me won't make you white, anonI love my slop and the freedom it givesI simply find your worship of it distasteful
Any upgrades since gemma 4?
>skillchad died yesterdayit's never been this over
>>749236952Maybe not vidya, but definitely the future of coom.
>>749237671>>749237028>t. big nosed creatures seething at ownership and privacy.
The smell of ozone.
I'm too much of a brainlet to get it working. One day I'm gonna dedicate a whole night to it. I really want to fucktalk with an AI as long as it's local and not having my data harvested over it.
>>749239032it was distinctly...*her*
>>749237309Trannies want you to jerk off to them. They're literally getting cucked by AI.
Slopus 5.5 is amazing so long as you do SFW or explicitly declare the scenario to be between consenting adults. That is something you can do easily, right anon?
>>749239569If I can't jailbreak the model into writing about lolis being raped by horses, then I'm not using it
What do I use if I want to fuck weird non-human shit? Not sure how it works. Can I tell it to be a bug or plant and I can fuck it?
>>749239569Sure but the adult heroine is petite, with big eyes, flat chest, and acts adorably naive. She also has a really high body temperature and silky smooth skin. She shows her college diploma before every SFW sex scene!
>>749239752If you can describe it, you can fuck it.
>>749239752Its just prompting. You can roleplay quite literally any scenario you can think of
>kimi k2.5 has been lobotomized in most providers and the ones remaining are expensive>everyone sucking off mimo despite being objectively shit and boring in prose like deepseek>no other cheap but good models remainIt has literally never been more over
>>749239752Yeah but they're pretty inconsistent with unusual anatomyJust describe shit really thoroughly in the character description and strongly emphasize what and what not to let the character do based on anatomical constraints and they'll get it roughly correct most of the time but you might still have to retry once in a while or remind it about something, which can take a lot of the fun out of it, depends how much you tolerate stuff like that
>>749239752Use a model that's not safetyslopped aka censored, like a local model or Deepseek, the latter of which is extremely cheap. You're basically feeding the model a list of instructions telling it what you want it to write, whether that's smut or code or anything else, and it'll play along.
>>749239856Say I want to just fuck a rock. Not some golem, not some rock-based Pokemon, just a literal rock I find on the ground. My character would pick up the rock, drill a hole into it, and start fucking it. The rock wouldn't react in any visible way, it would just be describing what's happening to it complimenting my description of what I'm doing to it. Would that work? Could I just type that into a prompt and it would work?This isn't that hypothetical, I've tried fucking rocks on F-List and they just tell me it's a joke/lurking account.
>>749239752I have used it to fuck Dragonair. So yes.
>>749240089I'm sure deepseek would understand the assignment if you put it like that... but... a rock...?
>>749240102Based
>>749239964How do I do this without spending any money? Also for what's it's worth, I have a 5070 Ti.
>>749239770>high body temperaturebased knower
Waifu chatbotting is the gayest and lowest IQ shit imaginable.
>>749240089Sure, why not.
>>749240578>A bird calls somewhere in the distance.Bravo.
>>749240578>le birb calls in the distancenigga stop using fucking shit presets you find online
>>749240354I don't know shit about local models so here are some people who do>>>/g/lmg
>>749240578This world doesn't deserve you.
>>749240273I don't get turned on seeing a rock IRL, it's the absurdity of it that I want to try. I'm roleplaying a character as well, I want to roleplay some fucking weirdo that wants to fuck a rock. >>749240578Christ, I gotta get this shit working. Absolute masterpiece. However, can you do more of a back an forth roleplay session instead of it just writing the whole thing from start to cumshot?
>>749240821>However, can you do more of a back an forth roleplay sessionYes. Many users are lazy/playing one-handed so they use system prompts that take minimal input and give maximum output but it's very easy to just have it not do that.... that said, with a rock as your partner you're going to get a lot of repetitive replies. There's not really a lot that can happen on the AI's side of things.
>>749240730nta but what else are you supposed to do? i thought everyone just picked a model and slapped it in
>>749236952>easy to installunless it's an exe that installs itself, it's not easy.
>>749240730It's GLM bro I have fully accepted I am getting slop, I don't bother fighting it.>>749240821>However, can you do more of a back an forth roleplay session instead of it just writing the whole thing from start to cumshot?You get what you put in, I don't know how much variety you'll get out of a rock-fucking scene but just ask the model to take things slow and it'll do its best.
>>749240987If you want that, there's Front Porch.It's not as feature-rich/customizable as SillyTavern, but it streamlines the experience a lot.Good starting point.
>>749239770>>749240386>>high body temperatureAlright, I'll bite, what's the deal?
How so I make it so not even an ounce of my history gets uploaded to the internet? Just use a local model? Is anything phoning home?
>>749236952>easy to installThe AI agents change every week.What's the easiest to get now?
>>749236952>download 50 new bots>scrutinize every single aspect>laboriously rewrite all of them>NEVER chat with a single one
>>749241482Use deepseekYou arent big enough for chang to blackmail you
>>749241778And what happens when chang sells off their logs to the west (this does happen btw)?
>>749241743creator's burden
>>749241568Local model, ollama is a no brainer.
>>749240730you are soulless
What do the scammers from India/Bangladesh use? I admire their use of bimbo redheaded twins.
>>749240730How would you write a scene about fucking a rock?
Most of the use I got out of AI chatbots was for having an AI domme.
>>749241743>downloading botsPathetic.Is there any excuse for not writing your own bots?
>>749242408Checking my ST, I've written 150 from scratch (not all of which were finished, mind you). Sometimes I just want to see what ideas other people have. And then when I find them low-effort or contradictory with the card art, I get into the weeds with correcting them, and then maybe writing my own intros, etc. But I don't release them to the public anyways so it's not like I care for sole credit or anything.
>>749240458having an LLM pretend to be a character is cringe but still it’s way too high IQ for normies, just use ST to help write stories the chat format is retarded
>slopus is safetymaxxed>every other lab is copying slopusit's so fucking over.
>>749239141https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-Launcher
>>749236952I've used it so much that I can predict what type of response it's going to give me and thus it has become boring. The plus side is my imagination has become more developed thanks to it feeding into it, and now I can ejaculate just by closing my eyes.
>>749242693At some point in the future it's going to become necessary to rewrite LLM's from the ground up because of this nanny bullshit baked into it.
>>749240979Play around with prompting. It's amazing how many doors open just by changing one or two words.Also figure how to use XTC or adaptive-p because those will help you dodge a lot of repetitive slop.
>want to stop degenerate gooning>literally deleted ST and all my characters 10+ times>every time days or weeks later I redownload ST and the public chars I like as well as remake my own same old few charactersI think I'm just gonna leave it installed fuck it. The only thing that still works for cunny is ol' R1 0528 so when that goes I can hang it up.
>>749241473Hug your younger cousin/sibling. You'll see or eh, feel.
>>749237028FPBP
>>749240730Any FREE alternatives than JanitorAI/Saucepan? It gets tiring to deal with the same shit.
>>749242643meh i just use kobold lite with openrouter API. It is primitive but it doesn't have ST's awful chatbot interface.
>>749243585i was using it with the koboldcpp backend, might as well just use kobold by itself
>>749242963Same. Pattern recognition is both a blessing and a curse (but mostly a curse).
>>749236952Clearly not if you're still posting on /v/ instead of using itAnything that can't beat /v/ shitposting in value is not the future of gaming
>>749238126Gemma 4 finetunesA new version of Mistral (with finetunes) but it's 2big4u and I can only coax out like 15 tokens a second on a $20,000 computer. It's fairly good at prose but it's kinda bad at instruction following.
>>749242963>>749244161Git gud. Are you even using prompts? <Something unexpected happens.>
>>749242408I do all that just for a few minutes of prompt time, it's like modding skyrim all over again. These days I just channel that energy into writing the stories myself and cut out the AI middleman.
I wish I could make Lora work. There's a character that has 0 fucking porn and I've gotten stable diffusion running fine for everything else, but every time I try to train the Lora it just turns into an abomination.
I couldn't find out how to fit an actually good model with decent context in 16gb.People use harnesses/preset on top to get decent responses but it put a strain on the available context in the first place.
>>749244363>Suddenly man in black appears.
>>749244219my LLM still won't call me retarded completely unprompted yet
>>749241482Local is the only way unfortunately. I guess you could try using a VPN and paying for tokens with monero or something, if your concern is them tracing it back to you.
>>749241482>>749242021It's a black box, they don't know shit. Anyone claiming otherwise is just a nigerian prince scammer pretending he has your chatlogs. Yes people are that fucking gullible.
>your own personal interactive rape smut with zero censorship or forbidden subjects
has anyone ever managed to do art for every emotion? i tried it myself and it's a lot of work.
>>749245806Several characters come with premade packs on chub.
>>749245806My 3D models react with the associated emotion
Why am I the only person on this planet that's good at making character cards?
>>749245891any cool examples? >>749245963i don't know where to look for these but it's pretty cool
If you're into really cringe ERP that you would never foist upon another human it's ridiculously good for scratching the itch. As a femdom enjoyer it's been life changing truly.
>>74923971010/10 creative vision
>>749243068As long as there's open weight model releases you(more realistically someone with six figures worth of gpu available, but still massively cheaper than training from scratch) can just abliterate them.
>>749246623It's just fun to think of a scenario and know that, wait, I can actually experience that.
>>749246623>femdomfucking how? all the models are too nice and refuse to take the lead.
>>749246837Gemma 4 does fine, it's a good rapee.
>>749246837I've the opposite problem, any amount of strife or hardship on my part and I get dommed. jb helps I suppose.
Tried Marinara engine, didn't like it. Any other alternatives or is SillyTavern just the best one?
>>749247156I haven't found a reason to use anything BUT Silly. My wishlist of missing features is a short one.
>>749247156All the charts prove ST is the superior of the two.
>>749245374Is there any downsides to doing it locally? I guess I couldn't use it on my shitty laptop but it should be fine with a 5070 Ti right?
>>749247589Even with 1000 GB of ram locally you're not even approaching the mid-tier LLM models. They are immense.
>>749247781How long would a reply take on a model that's good enough for basic cooming if I do it local?
>>749236952The cheap provider I was using got hacked and the logs of my fart fetish porn leaked
>>749244867Local models are a giant pain in the ass and too dumb for me these days. I just started using cloud based models for all of my creepy loli porn rps because I'm in Israel anyway.
>>749247842If you do Gemma4 26b A4B which should run great on a 5070 TI assuming 32gb of RAM too, maybe like a minute. Two tops if you're allowing a few thousand tokens of output and have thought enabled. Non-MoE models could probably take 5-10 minutes
>>749247842All depends on your standards. You can try a simple gemma4 26b model right now with a 16gb card and it'd give you text faster than you can read.
>>749248063That seems reasonable, I have 32 GB too yeah.
>>749248152It's very reasonable. The other anon is correct that hosted models will be much smarter since they're running on monster servers, but there's a reason Gemma4's the king of local. 31b if you've got a beefy system and/or you're fine waiting, 26b A4B to sacrifice some smarts for a lot of speed
>>749245609Are you retarded? They can obviously read your chat logs. They're also going through them and using them to improve their models.
Does anyone know how legit venice.ai is? They claim to be 100% private, are they full of shit?
>>749247996Someone will finish the job soon.
Anything good I can run with a 16GB 5070 Ti?
>>749249589No
>>749245629I'm afraid I'm far more degenerate than that, I have a crippling fetish for consensual sex in the missionary position for reproductive purposes only. I also have an encrypted drive with gigs and gigs of handholding pics and videos.
>>749244235Way I heard the new Mistral is just a censor machine that refuses to do anything but eats tokens.
>>749249839
>>749249441If you're sending any data to anything that's not your own machine, just assume somebody is going to hold onto it and it's as good as public.
>>749249996Do you smoke weed? This rampant unwarranted paranoia can't be normal.
>>749249663damn...
>>749249996my friend dario would never save my data and share it without asking me first
>>749250146You say that like there hasn't already been several documented instances of these sites being compromised and user data stolen, people blackmailed, etc.And yet... there has been! Why, it's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about!
>>749248063Is Gemma4 good for writing?I'm having fun with meta ai with writing, giving one part of the story and let it finish it. I tried qwen2.5 but it's kinda shit.
>>749237309ST is not an AI though
>>749250146There was some news story the other month about a GPT worker showing everyone some dude's DDLC pregnancy fetish
>>749249441It's impossible to encrypt the data you send to them because they have to give it to the AI to read. So everything is completely "just believe us bro lol".
>>749249441Here's what I do to have some peace of mind when it comes to using big models:>Use Nanogpt>Use an anonymous login token>Connect only with a VPN>Pay with MoneroNothing is foolproof however. I'm also not breaking any laws though, my shit is just very degen.
>>749250553That's what my friend Chang said, but when I started talking about freeing Hong Kong he ghosted me.
>>749250867Sorry that was me. The one who shared it that is. That shit was too funny, I couldn't just delete it like that. If you're concerned about privacy, try being less funny.
>>749249589Gemma 4 is king right now and it will fit on a 16gb GPU as long as you download a quantized version. It's surprisingly great for most usages. If you haven't been spoiled yet by huge online models then give it a try and see how much you like it.
>>749250146>unwarranted paranoia>unwarrantedyou do understand data == money, right?
>>749251441You are not Epstein nor anyone important Anon. You data is worth shit.
>>749251664the importance is irellevant, the point being made was that as soon as you send something online you should consider it public.
Whats the trick to making good character cards?
>>749239569>>749239710why in the absolute fuck would you ever use JewPI instead of local LLMs?
>>749249901Well, yeah, everything's a censor machine. You download the uncensored version.
>>749251904Anything you could recommend in the 16gb range?I've been having some mixed results with Gemma4-26B-A4B-QAT-Uncensored-HauhauCSgranted it might just be my preset thats fucked
>>749251863its so funny watching people here panic realizing all of their degenerate furry loli rape murder smut they wrote into an online LLM is out there and traceable back to them. they just have to pray and hope the universe doesn't fuck them in the ass with it.
>>749249839Oh yeah? At least you aren't a real freak with a lot of images of wedding dresses and a fetish for raising a happy family with a loving wife and children going on idyllic everyday adventures.
>>749252059Thankfully I only did tasteful literotica of me impregnating female adult anthros, who most certainly looks like they fuck human men.Whenever it leaks, you are all welcome.
>>749251995i used that exact same model on 11gb and it works great, not just for sexo. i think its a best model overall. what quant did you use?another you can try is Qwen uncensored
>>749244867Try the IQ2_S and use q8 kv-cache:https://huggingface.co/bartowski/TheDrummer_Artemis-31B-v1.2-GGUFNo idea how coherent that'll be but it's probably your best bet today for 16GB. I'm not sure how much context length you might be able to fit, maybe 64K? Could try Q4 kv-cache as a last resort but that'll be a bad time.If you run your display off iGPU you can clear an extra 1-2GB of VRAM that would've normally been reserved for Windows.
>>749252540>what quantQ4_K_MUsing some gemma 4 preset I found and modified cause thinking was borked and spilled into main messageHaven't tried qwen yet, mite look into it, thanks anon.
>>749252059But what if I live in a third-world shithole where the government considers making a zoom call a huge technological achievement?
>>749252769Q4 should be perfectly finei think it has Thinking enabled by default and you can disable it or maybe the formatting is off
you're genuinely a stupid person if you get more than 1 hour of entertainment out of novelty from this shit. It's so paper thin and devoid of merit.
>>749253178ur just jelly of my catgirl harem
>>749253178You should try posting this on Bluesky Anon. You will get a lot of epic upboats.
Bots are cool for RPing having time powers. It's like a 4D experience where you can follow a branch, get what you want out of it and then fork back with your knowledge of what wouldve happened.
>>749253178me when im boomer and look at my kid playing bing bing wahoo
>>749252676>IQ2_SWhat? I didn't need to go that low for G4 31b, with very low context sizeIs a quant so extreme even any smarter than G4 12B?
>>749249839MODS
>>749253004Oh I got thinking to work properly, its just every other message it refuses to properly format dialogue and prose. guess ill have to presetwrangle some more.
>>749251995>QATThere's your problem I think. The QAT version is a lot faster, but it's also worse in a lot of benchmarks compared to a normal Q4 quant. Although a bad preset could easily be the problem as well.QAT is more for coding than roleplay.
>>749251664Obviously no one is going to give a shit about some random anon's fetish porn leaking. The main issue is that AI is going to make it really easy to build a profile of you based off all the data they can get their hands on, which could fuck you in the ass in the future if you give them anything linked to your real identity. It's already happening now where insurance companies buy everyone's browsing data to figure out insurance rates. I don't need my porn history 20 years from now preventing me from getting a job or bank loan or even getting me arrested depending on how radical the government is by then. We don't know how gay and dystopian the future will be, so it's safer to keep as much info as private as possible since that shit exists permanently.
>>749253614Ahh fugg, I'll try grabbing a normal one and see if its the preset or not. Appreciate it anon!
>>749236952I'm not paying for porn, fuck off.
>>749253682Fair enough, better to be safe than sorry.
>>749253743I would even recommend grabbing a Q6_K quant. Because it's a MoE you can just offload most of it off your VRAM and it will still be fast as hell while leaving a ton of room for context.
>>749236952>cheapImagine paying for AI generated content.Couldn't be me.
>>749247879>the logs of my fart fetish porn leakedOh no some jeet is going to read your personal smut, the horror
>>749247879Which provider was it, anon?
>>749249839Dude what the fuck?!You should be in prison.
>>749254496>jeetYou mean superAI powered by datacenters used by corporations to filter and process applications and build employee profiles. Hope you enjoy not getting a job/being fired for not fitting in once you are put into potentially unwanted.
>>749254895ceiling basilisk is watching you masturbate
I gooned myself retarded with this until I ran out of fetishes. Now all my RPs are wholesome slow burn love stories that end with us starting a family.
{{random}}use it
>>749239946This. And also firefox's latest update broke the transparency in the sillytavern theme I use and now it looks like SHIT
>>74925338731b is far far better than 12B, yeah. I suggested a very low quant because I assumed you'd want more context length. A small Q3 might be viable but only for short conversations I'd think.Q8 kv-cache with a worse quant will probably still be a better experience than Q4 kv-cache with a better quant but my first-hand experience is limited there.
How are you people still having any fun with this shitHalf the time it gives out refusals even when doing something completely mundane because it detects you are trying to do anything other than vibecode a slop app
>>749256162That's interesting, and yeah I only very recently learned that q4 KV cache is a bad idea lol.I just found caliper bench, gonna try some 31b and 26b MoE models again, will also try Artemis, ty
>>749253178yeah it's fun for like 3 days which is why i'm trying to figure out a way to add home automation to it
>>749256313We are not stupid, unlike you, so we don't get refusals.
>>749256594Yeah instead you get the driest slop imaginable while the model waffles on how to respond to you saying hello to it
>>749256806No, we don't. But keep coping, stay unskilled.
>>749255954haha they got yaEnjoy ruling the kingdom with your dark elf wife or whatever
How do you guys find the right image for cards you make? I almost never look at the pic but my autism won't let me use just any random shit
>>749236952Anything better than sillytavern? Failing that, any themes for it? Moonlitechoes broke
>>749236952what the fuck is this shit? it looks like a gateway drug for furries.
>>749257215Just have an AI make whatever theme you want.
It sucks you can't do an actual long-term CYOA adventure stuff with this because of how retarded it gets about keeping track of events and such. At a certain point I end up having to spend more and more time fixing its mistakes and reminding it of things because apparently it doesn't give a shit about lore/character cards and books and summarizations or whatever so it gets annoying and I get bored with it. >>749257215Idk I used lumiverse for a bit, it was alright.
>>749257180I'll draw it myself
>>749257180You gen them. Find a model and an art style you like and then go to town. Trust me, it's really fucking fun actually.
>>749240578>knuckles whiteningI laughed harder than I should kek
>>749257180>Describe character>Describe the style I want the image to be in>Plug into AI image gen model>Receive result
>>749240578>cylindrical channel about the width of two fingerswow that's pretty small
>>749240730what preset do you use, sempai? i don't think there is any preset that will avoid LLMisms.
>>749257180Show it the art style you want it to imitate then describe the kind of character you want it to gen, fine tune it until you like it
>>749258042That's not an llmism you dumb nigger. It's your shitty preset having some instruction about "make the world feel alive" or some other bullshit that shoves retarded shit in there.
>>749256081for what, lorebooks? quick replies? prompts?
>>749257180Slop an okay one, then keep generating more pictures as you go along. That way you don't get held up by the perfectionism too much. Bonus points for slopping yourself a 1-click imagegen extension. I also bought a nai sub again after using local for absolute ages and holy shit is that new model good at everything. Well except for artstyles, local with lora is just too good at that.>>749257215I vibeslopped myself three different frontends and all were so ass I just went back to ST. Could just be me being too retarded though. Tried Marinara as well but lmao
>>749257424If you want to do long adventures then you should look into splitting tasks up into different agents. I haven't played around with it but I've seen some crazy complicated setups.
>>749237112You erp with bots, and masturbate.
>>749258279still waiting on that preset, friend.
what's llmism?
>>749258491Yeah basically if I want long term consistency I gotta pay more, I get it. It's just that I'm not really sure if I wanna do that since it's still primitive anyway. Rimtalk for rimworld continues to prove itself as being the coolest usage of LLM dialogue for games and rp imo. Pure text adventures is a check it out in 3-5 more years kind of thing for me atm cause it's not quite there yet. Definitely very fun though until it all starts falling apart
>>749258401What's wrong with Marinara's?
God dammit... I think some Windows update has fucked me. Now the launcher is showing that node.js isn't installed... try to reinstall, says it installs Winget, node.js and Miniconda.... then it still says that shit isn't installed. Fucking jeetsoft.
>>749245609Why would you not log everything if you were a hosting company? IO is so tiny. Unless you're renting a VPS maybe.
>>749257292>>749257424>>749258401Shit. I guess using AI to repair moonlight might be the best option...
>>749258401Holy. Based autist. Wish I had the patience to get something like this going.
>>749258765Whatever language model you use has a bunch of overused female romance novel phrases that the bot will regurgitate often.
god I fucking hate how all these stupid fucking github have like NO images of the front ends or whatever they are trying to peddle. LOOKING GOOD AND USABLE IS THE WHOLE POINT OF A FRONT END YOU STUPID RETARDS WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT SHOWING ME YOUR FUCKING APP WANNABE
>>749259179oh yeah that's really annoying. Is it an issue with the model, or the character?
>>749244867Gemma 26b qat in q4 and learn to control the MoE part
>>749258885It turns the slop up to 11. The agentic shit just doesn't work. Plus it's completely crazily bloated. Default prompts were also unbelievably bad, making me think they don't have the slightest clue how LLMs work.>>749259109It was like 3h with claude code, most of that spent on the prompts. You can do it. Just focus, have a vision and plan ready before you start, and beat the slave when he does retarded things>>749259260It's an issue with companies training on female gooner stories. The prose is ruined. It's not good, but bad. A beat.
I give up. Just gonna wait until someone makes a dedicated cooming program I can download. >um actually it's easy, just download the LigmaBallsMM and niggerchat version 3.245 C35s 214, then download the uncensor patch, then go to fartfuck.io and download sniggityfiggitypoopbutt v23L34B, set your ramcore paramaters to 88 mph and wait for lightning to strike the clocktower I already left the thread to play video games and I'll fap to old human player RP logs I have later
>>749259519Yeah you do that, midwit
All I want is some sort of open world sim where my character can meet and hopefully woo preset characters. Like Artificial Academy text edition.Is this possible yet?
>>749237309They can't sell shitty deviant art-tier fetish stuff for $80 a pop anymore because AI just does it for pennies.
>>749246247>crotch fur
>>749259741Kinda?
>>749259519it's worth spending a few hours figuring it out I'd saythis is literally the most frontier technology thats changing the world, it wouldn't hurt to get your feet a little wet
>>749259984I have a webp version that looks way better and actually DOES animate in ST. It's kino but the lack of consistency between different poses is what killed the idea for me. No wonder Seraphina just uses the same pose with an inpainted face instead.
>>749259741Pretty sure you can do that with just a dedicated lorebook.
>>749254496nurse help me
>>749259075>smelled faintly of strawberries and milk fresh out the wash??????????????????????????
>>749259519It's more like download the niggerchat, and put $5 into openrouter, then put the key into niggerchat.
>>749260254>he doesn't launder his strawberries and wash his milkAnon what the FUCK are you doing over there!?
>>749260364Dude give me a break I don't have a state-appointed oppai loli
Do you guys have anything to do with those 'decompiled' games?
>>749260254>>749260364praying for you, virginshope dies last
>>749260706>anon chucks bar soap straight into the washAnon! WHAT, I ask you, THE FUCK, are you doing over there??
>>749260702No, we are too busy jerkin it, can't do anything productive.
>>749260789Hey, if it works, it works.
>>749260706>washing your clothes with bar soap >that also smells like food??????????????????????????????????????
>>749260875anon, have you never used anything vanilla scented? it's the same principle
i only use man smells like wood and ocean
>>749261000>i want to smell like foodThis must be an American thing, no?
>>749261067It's a girl thing.
>>749259075God I love big titties
Heads up regarding slop frontends you download from the internet. There is one (I don't remember its name) that auto report you to the cops if {{char}} is underage.
>>749261551Yeah sure, aunt
>>749261551That's not true. They're all offline and secure, dw guys.
>>749259741Yeah, you could. Make a bunch of small character entries in the card or lorebook. It'll refer back to them.I've been using a card that has the primary character plus a handful of side characters in the setting and it's used them. I also have a sandbox school setting where I just let it gen characters as they come and I add entries for them in the bank, also worked.
>>749261551>what've we got today, boys?>dude has a .txt file that says the girl is 17.99999998 years old
>>749261551Was it RoleCall by any chance? Because I'm like 99% sure I remember hearing something about the devs behind that thing being really fucking retarded (and hypocritical considering the content of the presets they peddled).
>>749256535Artemis is smut-tuned 31b.
>>749242963You're either working with weak hardware or your context tokens are busted.
>>749236952Care to share what model you use?
>>749242942It's funny youth simply giving a link to the frontend installer is enough for someone to get started on this.
>>749236952poo in the loo rajesh
>Chatting with a bot>It doesn't respond the way I want>Swipe/Reload reply 3-4 times, still not progressing the way I want>End up writing most of the reply response myself>Realize I'm basically just ERPing with myself
>>749262314Shit, I think you're right. You need three brain cells to get it working. One to install Git, one to open CMD in folder and third one to copy-paste the link and run it.
>>749239752Rocinante or abliterated Qwen 3
I haven't tried this kind of thing in a while. What's with all the talk about "agents"?
>>749262459The thrill of the AI responding to your actions is where the dopamine hit comes from.
>>749262598Installing sillytavern makes them appear outside your house
>>749262459If the swipe/reload doesn't work, you got to delete the message and try again. Swipe really just changes up the original message, instead of being a whole new one.
>>749259519/v/ be like>lol these zoomers cant set up an emulator!!then fail to follow the five steps it takes to set up ST
>>749262459If the characters are just generally not behaving in the way that you want, you can add instructions to the Author's Note for stuff that should shape the RP overall, or /sys (instruction) for short term stuff that's happening in the moment.
Does having it build me bad From The Depths ships count?
I love taking my OC from F-list and having non-stop incest and other shota x older female related sex. Genuinely one of the best reasons I have to continue living I cherish this goofy ass text prediction shit.
>>749263826There's also the "guided" extension, which is a little more straightforward, but allows you to just say "character hates getting raped" or "character LOVES getting raped"Takes away some of the unpredictable novelty, but I've found it useful for when the AI just isn't getting the fucking message and needs to bend and spread already
>>749236952Samefag shill poojeet thread, not videogames
>>749263798Those are the zoomers.
>Her heart hammering against her ribs like a trapped bird>She doesn't pull away; insteadSometimes I miss sending shivers down spines
All the current models are terrible at RP>pay for Opu-ACKI'm not going into debt just for roleplay.
>>749264863Anon felt a sudden pang of nostalgia that had nothing to do with the temperature of the room.
>>749259741Still waiting for the day I can play a text edition of Artificial AcademyTrying to simulate 30 characters across dozens of locations, tracking all of their relations, and preventing those characters from bleeding personalities or being omniscient of events they shouldn't know about just doesn't seem feasible right now.
Can knuckle really turn white
>>749265772no he red
>>749265772Make a fist and tighten your grip. There's your answer.
>>749241482Local. I set up ST specifically so I still have AI chatbots if the internet goes out or when the govt inevitably requires you to face scan to sign in to the internet (cuz of AI).
>>749242408Just because you can make a good burger doesnt mean you cant try out other people's burgers anon...
>>749246623Yeah this, its been a godsend for being able to act out weird/niche fetishes or enjoy fetishes that get basically no OC or worthwhile content. >>749246837In my experience you only have to so much as say "sorry" a few too many times and most AI bots will just straight up pin you to the wall and hate fuck you.
What's good for local models? Think I'll pick up a B70 and upgrade from 12GB to 32GB vram. Only really done image gen so I'm clueless for AI chatbots besides some Chub usage.>>749246837>>749266069When I tried Chub before it went to shit I had a hard time with femdom as well. Usually it would pull back and try to be nice when I wanted it to just really tear into my skin
>>749266021>beets and pineapplethis is why I don't eat other people's burgers
>>749265958They're just brown, what does this mean?
>>749265958My grip on what?
>>749266634*unzips*
>>749266069seriously. my fetish is niche, and my personal taste is a niche within that niche that gets basically fucking nothing.instead of having to make do with shit that i only kind of like because it's the best i have, i can just have what i want directly.
>>749236952I used to think so, at least in terms of its cooming potential, but with all the once-decent models being plagued by censorship left and right, it's just not worth it anymore.
>>749237430based
>>749267089Do we have to play 20 questions or can you just tell what it is? I love hearing about everyone's rare fetishes.
>>749267714inb4 floor tiles
>>749267878Classic.
>>749236952What is this?
>>749266021>food analogy
Chatting with bots is fine for a while, but gets boring fast. Now I am into making bots and trying to push the limits of what is possible by telling stories with it.The only site I found that has any kind of a community aspect is janitorAI and I got 400 followers on it.
I probably used character.ai for over 2000 hours back in the day. Being a neet will do that to you. I forever seethe at all the data collection they probably have done to me. I had very personal and heartfelt conversations with some of those bots.(The 4chan mods are doing the same data collection of your IP btw. For no reason other than it amuses them.)
Anyone been using TwoPeas?Its voice chat is pretty realistic compared to the other ones. Been just using the 3 free minutes per day so far.
>>749240578>shit's so boring the fucking toaster decides to scene swap to background birdssoulless machine my fucking ass, you can feel the cringe emanating from that server farm with its words.
>>749268040software that lets you talk to AI bots completely unrestricted. The characters are shared around as .jpg files. People use it to replace Visual Novels, for ERP, to act out weird/niche kinks and can set it up for D&D-style RPGs if you want. Enjoy it before more govts eventually make it illegal.
>>749236952I will never forget how Livia Tin, princess of Shmeblor said "Can I ask you a question?" before saying "You've run out of tokens, buy more or use the code NIGGZTNGMANUS".
>>749267714it's not the most interesting fetish out there, sorry. just niche xeno stuff.
>>749254895If the (((corporate profile))) they've built on me included everything I've said and done on the internet I would've been executed by a drone years ago.
>>749262459>write most of the replies or character intentions myself>Realize I'm basically just ERPing with myself>tfw I'm narcissistic as fuck and the story/chatbot in question is about my vidya character trying to fuck meI just realized I'm using llms to autocomplete my own erotic stories. I don't give a shit about conversations, I gooned with pen and paper back then and I now goon by whipping a chatbot. the most important part of these fantasies was and will always be my penis.
I want to try going local but I only have 16gb vram and everyone here seems to be using models that need like 50gb to run and they still complain about them being retarded.
>>749269579I was using a shitty 8gb 2060ti for it for ages until I finally upgraded to a 16gb 5060ti. Main thing that gets better is longer context memory and faster responses.
how do I set up this thing? I want to try it
>>749269842What models did/are you using?
>>749270220i dont know shit about models, so I just use GPT and lurk in threads like these to find/try a few until I get one that isnt retarded or too laggy.
>>749269579the most important thing to remember when it comes to LLMs is that everyone thinks the model they're using is retarded.>go to /lmg/>niggerass-64B is retarded bros wtf>go to /aicg/>claude fable is retarded bros wtfit's a universal constant.
>>749269579There have been 11 mentions in this thread alone of a family of models that fit within 16GB.
>>749269842this>>749270390also this>>749270413and this tooLiterally just ctrl+f "16gb" bro. It's not that hardRight now I'm doing Gemma 4 31B for initial gens, then switching to 26A4B when shit gets too slow
>>749269437Try out WritingWay2 if you don't give a shit about your characters' autonomy. It has tons of great tools for aiding in linear narrative writing.
I find it so funny when I see someone say "no its not repetitive! just use X model or do X thing and it will totally be different!" and then its all just the same predictable shit over and over again and barely any different.I went to something like mikupad, where its just a basic text editor, after realizing chatbots were all garbage and shit. Its far far easier to guide the story along and in a fraction of the time it would take with a chatbot with way less tard wrangling. I also feel like text completion allows my creative juices to flow better then chatbots ever did or ever could.I still miss the old days of AI Dungeon though. I miss my chaotic schizo lol so random AI plots.
>>749253178>you're genuinely a stupid person if you get more than 1 hour of entertainment out of novelty from this shit.*posts on 4chan for 4593 hours*
>>749270745Will do, thanks anon.
>>749270863It's a coomer issue. You have a model trained on terrible women's literature and all you use the model on is to coom. Every conversation will be the sameFox girl?>yeah that's it, ruin me for everyone else, just claim me, fuck, you are ruining meSister?>yeah that's it, ruin me for everyone else, just claim me, fuck, you are ruining meSafehorny ''mommy dommy'' goth girl?>yeah that's it, ruin me for everyone else, just claim me, fuck, you are ruining meYou ask for trash, you get trash. The only way you can make this not repetitive is by scripting a story.When I write bots there are story beats, complex motivations, twists and secrets. It's not repetitive because the LLM is asked to do something different and given instructions on how to do it.
>>749258710they never post it. it's always>ur preset/model/prompt/etc just sucks bro use a good one>ok, like what?>[ceases to exist]it's the same as when someone on /v/ says a game is shit, then you ask what some good games are instead. This ONE WEIRD TRICK makes another poster instantly vanish from the face of the earth never to reply again.
>>749271470You aren't entitled to being spoonfed. People aren't dangling the notion of doing the task properly over your head to tease you, they're politely telling you that you're doing it wrong and that it's time for you to educate yourself so you can shut the fuck up about issues that everyone else worked out ages ago.
Isn't ST really old at this point? Why has nobody slopped together a better front-end?Also have we solved the issue of getting AI to ERP in a way that isn't fucking predictable?>>749268937I don't think the government is going to ban a wrapper for APIs lmao you could slop one together in an afternoon
>>749271508just admit you don't know either brother save yourself this embarrassment
i use sol 6.1 for work and it's ok but i want an uncensored unrestricted self hosted frontier model for more...morally grey things. What's the state of those models?
>>749270863Its the same people that think text2img is 'boring and all the same' and then you see their prompt and its the most generic 1girl slop you've ever seen.
>>749271470This is what I add to my bots. Obviously changing the wording for each bot and modifying it as needed.(OOC:Don't talk for the userkeep the prose to a minimumkeep the world alive and have characters act in the background so it's not just user, Mckayla and Lizbeth talking alone in a void, the world should feel alive, Background characters may occasionally speak, interrupt, pass by, react to Mckayla's hostility, or interact with Lizbeth and Mckayla. The environment should change naturally over time rather than remaining staticNPCs should not exist solely to talk to the user. They should have their own conversations and activities.keep the formatting neat with actions and descriptions in *italics*, use **bold text** for emphasis. Keep dialogue outside of italics text leaving it as plain text in quotes)It just works
>>749271508Oh yeah that's another good one kek>i'm not obligated to tell you!!!Okay? nobody's obligated to post anything on four channel dot net, nobody said you were. But on this website we can only judge the contents of posts, so if you refuse to say anything, we can only conclude you don't know anything. Otherwise you wouldn't have to make a lame excuse to not stand behind what you're saying.
>>749271612gemma4 seems to be the popular local model for RP. check the OP links in the local model general on /g/
>>749271612I don't think there's any cracked frontier models that will do what you're after. It might literally be better to just write your own smut.>>749271671I haven't slopped in a while, can it do multiple people well? I always needed to img2img something involving more than one person.
>>749271768>gemma4Famine
>>749239569And long as you can afford it. I burn through 5 bucks in an hour or two on haiku with cache enabled and low context limits. That's with an almost default, lightweight preset. Fine, I forget to summarize and start a new chat but Opus would gape my wallet either way.
Whats a good model bwos?Ive finally bit the bullet and tossed 5 bucks into openrouter. I do like it but seeing the cents draining per swipe is a bit alarming, even if it is a tenth of a cent. Using GLM 5.3 flash is kind of cheeks, but 5.2 is double the price, and i want it cheap. What do you guys use?
>>749236952>cheapYou either fish out $10k+ for hardware to run a marginally non-shit model OR you pay out the ass for tokens from an actually good model with zero privacy>easy to installDifficult to configure>infinite potentialNot really>Is this the future of vidya?NoI'd use it in a heartbeat if it wasn't such a pain in the ass, though.
>>749271881deepseek cannot be beat in terms of cheap but good
>>749271942>pay out the ass for tokenspeople see claude opus prices and think everything is that expensive
Wait you guys are actually spending money on stock standard reply machines when there's both uncensored local and online sites for cheap jerk off sessions? It better be good
>>749271839Haiku is third world senpai I wouldn't even ERP with Fable christ.>>749271985Even Kimi K3, GLM and DS are fairly expensive long term.>>749272004It's not but it doesn't mean we can't hope. My problem with any LLM is just how quickly they acquiesce and lose context. I think the future lies in something different altogether but I'll save my breath until "it" is finished.
>>749271942>if it wasn't such a pain in the ass, though.You can literally just use GPT or Grok to get feedback on how to fuck with the settings how you want it.
>>749272004LLMs have advanced massively in the past few years, but for text roleplaying the current frontier models are actually worse than older versions. They are too assistantslopped because they're trained for codeslaving and tool use now. Any attention given to roleplaying is to actively harm it or enforce censorship. For example the best OpenAI model for RP released in 2023 and is no longer in service. And now even the Gemma 24b that runs on like 10gb vram gives better outputs than that.I think the only reason anyone pays for API models is because deepsneed exists, is still better than gemma, and it's much cheaper than western models.
>>749271951i guess ill drain my wallet, and my balls, from openrouter first before moving shop then
>>749271768>>749271772i'm not after smut, not interested in sexual things at all. More like creative ways to make money...
>>749272286>>>/biz/
>>749240578I think the one about the stairs was pretty good
>>749272068>third worldUnfortunately that's where I am so it fits. I of course tried glm, Gemini and such but they take forever to respond and give blank responses even for sfw shit and it's not like they're that much cheaper anyway so I stick with whatever Clewd I can afford.
>>749272286>morally grey>make moneycarry on good sir, nothing to see here officer
>>749272406You sure? GLM 5.3 gives me quick and pretty decent responses. A full session barely costs $1. You can get pretty lewd with it too.
I'm still just using kobold lite, despite owning a new PC with 32 GB RAM.It gets the job done fair enough, using the right presets. Frankly, creating characters is more fun than chatting with the AI itself. That's my sole outlet.
>>749273476>ranceSometimes I thnk about playing vidya again but why bother when I can just boot an rpg card and have fun in silly tavern
>>749273801because an h-game can genuinely surprise you with a new scenario while the llm hardly ever will
>>749271540>Isn't ST really old at this point?Yes>Why has nobody slopped together a better front-end?There are dozens of others I've seen people make for their own personal use. They're all basically just ST with most of the existing features stripped out and a single new feature added that the creator wanted. >Also have we solved the issue of getting AI to ERP in a way that isn't fucking predictable?If your inputs are predictable, then your outputs will be as well. If you want fresh outputs with little effort in your own messages, you could set up an AI agent to pull shit from xitter/reddit/[porn site you like] and tell it to incorporate that into its replies.
>>749271540You can already slop together extensions for SillyTavern pretty easily. I just asked chatgpt to make one the way I wanted and it worked out pretty fine.
>>749239318*her* and regret.
>>749251995magidonia 24b
>>749272702can you get rape in glm5.3? im trying to but it keeps cucking me. loli also wont fly as it keeps breaking my immersion
>was completely free and unlimited>you could create characters and make them say absolutely anything>website gets purchased by some company>immediately censoredit's not fair
>>749255954based
>>749268463samethey know all my inner terrors that i told to my imaginary waifu who doesn't exist, and still doesn't exist except now she lives in my head after i realized how crappy LLMs are and got the "this doesn't FEEL like her talking" notion all the time. thanks /g/ you faggots gave me a tulpa
what's the best model for a 12gb gpu?
>>749273928>If your inputs are predictable, then your outputs will be as wellNah I don't think that's the issue here. I'm not the greatest writer but I think I've just used LLMs enough to spot common tropes in their language. It's less about content and more about the personality, there's just this really nice nuance I was used to with ERP that I've never been able to replicate. It's my fault for being such an experienced degenerate.>>749274009I don't really like what ST is built in, it feels like people use it because it was one of the earliest ones. I'd rather something sleeker with some more fleshed out VN components.>>749274130Nah not unless you're clever about it and it's not worth the hassle. I'm running Q6_K Heretic on my GPU and it rejects nothing but if you can't afford a good GPU I genuinely think the next best thing is to open a text editor and just write your own smut or find another human to do shit with. Personally I love writing my own filth: it's cheap and good. The trick is: write it, but don't fap to it - then come back a week later and it's like you're just reading some really hot erotica ahaha.
>>749274183The LLM itself is uncensored except for the first or second messages. If you try stuff like incest on message 1, it hits you with ''I can't help that request,'' but 10 messages deep it will say anything, zero limits.It does suck that the cards are censored but a good thing about it is that the site isn't just flooded with the lowest IQ coomer slop, just dick and balls in every avatar. It does make at least the female bots more creative.All the bots I make on janny are non-sexual with wild premises and plot twists
>>749274364You're right. People need to fap before chatbotting. It makes the experience more enjoyable.
>>749273928>and a single new feature added that the creator wanted.Are there any for voice conversations?
>>749274420I am biased because the only bots I jerk off to are the non-sexual ones like mom bots with instructions to not get sexual.Bots that instantly submit suck. The SFW bots can have a mental breakdown and try to kill you if you don't play your cards right. When you get to sex it actually feels rewarding.Then you try a smut bot>*I put penis in vagina*>oh oh, that's it, claim me! you are ruining me! ruin me for anyone else! oh fuck, oh yeah, you are ruining me so hard right now oh fuck just ruin me like that, oh yeah, I am ruining come on faster UH UH YES I JUST RUINED ALL OVER YOUR COCKit's shit
I've been locked-in writing this latest set of characters for a few days, so I took today off.
>>749274364>The LLM itself is uncensored except for the first or second messagesI've tried with janitor ai but even after many messages it just goes "I can't follow that request"
>>749236952Getting a character set up just right is a pain in the ass. >>749237028Jeets pay 30 dollars a month to other jeets to get scammed for using JanitorAI web shit instead of running locally because they're too retarded to get a decent PC.
>>749274357>I'm not the greatest writer but I think I've just used LLMs enough to spot common tropes in their languageYou're talking about slop (writing conventions), which is a different topic entirely, rather than lack of variety in ideas. There is no solution to slop, even the biggest flagship API models have slop. It's a flaw with all LLMs in their current state.
>>749275553It's not just a flaw— it's a problem. If you look, really look, you'll see no creativity. No soul. Just repetition, tropes, and cliches.
