Replayed it recently and maybe I was too harsh on it. The story’s better than I remembered.A lot of the time travel stuff went right over my head as a kid.The orphanage stuff is still dumb tho.
GF-critics were right.
Treasure Planet.
Ellone should have been Squall’s love interest.
Squall is the most real relatable protagonist a Final Fantasy game has ever done.
>>749327459>The orphanage stuff is still dumb tho.It makes sense because Cid has been putting pieces in place so that the cast reunites. GFs causing amnesia have been foreshadowed by NPC dialogue since before you go to recruit Ifrit.>>749330450Honestly, I think the liberties taken with the localization win out this one time. And in FFXIV
>>7493274599 > 8 > 7
>>749330912Ideal number of times to bang Quistis in a day?
>>749330912Interesting take
>>749330912I've never been able to finish 9, it's just so fucking boring.The grind in 8 is skippable/kind of interesting, the grind in 7 is fun and the grind in 9 makes me want to blow my brains out once I'm part way through disk 2.
>>7493309127 > 8 > 5 > 6 > shit > 9
>>749330957I rank them in terms of how emotional they made me. Black Mage Village, Vivi's last monologue, Dagger leaving her mom's necklace behind, "I sang your song" "OUR song" etc. I really didn't get that emotional in FF7 except at the end. FF8 got me from time to time. They're all good games though.>>749331121FF9's biggest issue is battle speed but I think the PC re-releases let you adjust it and if I am wrong you can probably mod it.>>749331187I'm only judging the PS1 releases if we have to do top 5 of all of them>FF4>FF12>FF9>FF5>FFTactics
>>749330912>>7493309128 had several problems, but most of them were small and NOT gamebreaking, unlike 7, which had a fuckload of problems, and ALL of them were GLARING. >>7493311878>4>9>6>1>3>5>2>7I could write a 30 page essay on why 7 is dogshit AND prove it mathematically, but this is 4 chan so the people here can't read that much.
>>749331315>I'm only judging the PS1 releasesNumbered releases, I clearly meant.
>>749331121>grinding in an FF game outside of Superbosses>even inside of SuperbossesOh shit nigger what are you doing nigger
>>749331315ff9's biggest issue isn't battle speed. It's the speed stat. It does basically nothing. Haste works GREAT. Speed itself? Not so much.>>749331347I'm just doing pre-ps2 mainline titles.
>>749331369Yeah...this is why retards hate 8. They ignore the entire game and then complain that the game is boring.I grinded like 8 extra levels for Ozma in 9 just for that extra bit of bulk so I could survive Curse. After that, I just needed to figure out my strategy. The games are actually FUN when you don't grind like a fucking retard.
Quistis leaving her post during a assassination mission to go apologize to Rinoa for making her feel bad is still fucking dumb.
>>749331550it was a certified woman kino moment
>>749331550She saved your ass and destroyed XATM-092 in the most badass fashion possible. She's allowed a fuckup or two.
>>749331550It's dumb but extremely realistic given that she's an 18 year old waaaay woman way the fuck over her head
>>749331746Yup. Also, remember, the localization ROYALLY fucked Squall up. She wasn't immune to the effects either. In Japanese, she's out of her depth, and it's made VERY obvious that she's struggling with her status as a teacher.
>>749331325I wouldn’t put 7 that low since I kinda like the materia systemBut yeah, I agree that 9 and 8 are better
>>749332543The materia system is the ONLY thing in the combat system that they didn't fuck up. It belongs in the bottom 3.
>>7493309514, to keep your semen from becoming powerless and watery
>>749332589Also, If you to see ff7 but GOOD, play the njew threat mod with Exp All disabled. That fixes 98% of the issues that the New Threat mod DIDN'T fix by default.
My favorite FF lore chick just posted something about FF8.https://youtu.be/BREXQ-9pvuo
>>749332967Here's a fun bit about her. Her name is a reference to Artemesia, also known as the Witch's Plant.
>>749330621>Honestly, I think the liberties taken with the localization win out this one time.Whatever.
>>749330621>Honestly, I think the liberties taken with the localization win out this one time....whatever
>>749327459So if you’re playing on PC, Remastered is still the way to go, right?
>>749334143God no. Just play the og and use mods if you have that big og a stick up your ass over the graphics.OG with mods is the literal superior and most complete version. It's ALSO uncensored. Do not buy that demaster dogshit.
>>749334143Remastered with a mod that makes Squall white again and brings back all the hairy pussies.
>>749334303Hell, just fucking EMULATE IT. People need to quit joining the cult of HURR DURR OLD BAD NEW GOOD HURR DURR">>749334319No, just play the og, retard. I
>>749334143No, retard. Just emulate the original.
>>749327459The orphanage is contrived and retarded until you get to the very end of the game where it makes sense that the characters were intentionally reunited. For all the game's faults, this initially most egregious example is not one of them.
>>749330912I agree conceptually, but in execution it's the opposite and I say this as a former 9fag. The first few hours are perfect, the last one or two hours are perfect, rest is a mixed bag. It's the potential game.
>>749334383Wow. I didn't expect someone else to back me up on this. Fuck yeah.
>>749334143Remastered is fine, don't listen to the retards. You can mod the OG graphics if you wantEvery PS1 era FF games benefits from the speedup function.
Damn I love girls with glasses
>Quistis is 18>looks 30Make it make sense.
>>749327459There was a lot to like here, but the GF/junction system could have used some work. The plot was alright but the dialogue was so bad it brings the whole story down.They really could have spend another 6 months on this and it would have been much better. Still one of my favourites.
>>749334474The demaster is censored and gutted dogshit. It is NOT fine. Fuck you retard.
>>749334374>>749334383>emulationuh what about the loading screens?I remember those took forever
>>749334319This is one of the few censored designs that I think looks better even if it's covering her up.
>>749334530Mashallah she consumes alcohol
>>749334538>but the dialogueBlame the localizers. Not the game.>>749334474>Every PS1 era FF games benefits from the speedup function.NOT THIS ONE YOU FUCKING RETARD. HOLY SHIT, FUCK YOU, SHUT HE FUCK UP. NOBODY WANTS SPEED UP FOR A GAME WHERE EVERY MAJOR CUTSCENE IS INTERACTIVE. FUCK OFF.
>>749334560You can make emulators load faster than the original hardware. You also have a speedup hotkey. Retard.
>>749334605calm down
>>749334560...unless "forever" means like 3 seconds, no. The worst loading screen was like 8 seconds on a disc swap.>>749334621slit your throat bitch.
>>749327459Quistis and Leah Pinsent directly informed my taste in women
Notice how reasonable I am when a retard ISN'T spouting straight up lies and anti consumer bullshit.
>>749334474>Every PS1 era FF games benefits from the speedup function.Every pre-PS3 emulator has a speedup function.
>>749334605>Blame the localizers. Not the game.I'm blaming the game too. It just wasn't that good.>NOT THIS ONE YOU FUCKING RETARD. HOLY SHIT, FUCK YOU, SHUT HE FUCK UP. NOBODY WANTS SPEED UP FOR A GAME WHERE EVERY MAJOR CUTSCENE IS INTERACTIVE. FUCK OFF.Literal autism, take your meds. I've played and beat all these games multiple times I don't need to play at 1.0 speed anymore.
>>749334618>>749334715Not that you'd ever WANT the speed up button, as literally every major cutscene, both in and out of battle, is interactive. Speedup renders most limit breaks and ALL gf's useless for damage as well.
>>749334748Then don't speed it up during the cutscenes? You know it's not a permanent setting right?
>>749334560Fast forward, I use it every time I save in Xenogears
>>749334748>Speedup renders most limit breaks and ALL gf's useless for damage as well.Makes sense for limit breaks, but what do you mean the GFs? GF summons in 8 are just cutscenes, they're not interactable like the limit breaks are.
>>749334795who's gonna tell him
>>749332967More cool videos from this chick.https://youtu.be/0Ftkcn6iCkEhttps://youtu.be/h0Puh5Gl1V4https://youtu.be/xGecv0kFA6ohttps://youtu.be/UDJVw7U_ZWghttps://youtu.be/6orjb_bGLAg>>749334530This video explains it.https://youtu.be/w-lLSLDdaNk
>>749334740>>749334776Slit your throat, cunt.>>749334795Boost is a mechanic. You have to time button mashing to jack up the damage to upwards of 250% of base. Speed hacks make it unusable. Also, this is WHY the summon animations vary so much in length. Eden is the longest one ON PURPOSE so you can hit 250% easily.
>>749334836Here, I grabbed a random video On it.https://youtu.be/ZhK34OCd3GA
>>749327459I don't like being pursued for playing a game the way the designers created it to be played. I'm not supposed to level up because the enemy rubber bands with me, I'm not supposed to use magic because the meta is hoarding it and junctioning it to your stats in order to keep pace with the rubber banding enemies, and using summons is interminable due to how long it takes their animations to play out and you're supposed to give yourself carpal tunnel button mashing during the animation.If autist game devs want to have a giggle at me for not being in on their dumbass inside joke I'm not going to waste my time on their work. FF7 and 10 are the only FF games without ivory tower game design. They're also the only good FFs. These two things are deeply correlated.
>>749334953Sorry for the potato quality btw.
>>749334836>>749334879
>>7493309127 is the best followed by 5, 8 and 10. It's ok to like 6 and 9, I like them too. But they are not as good as the better ones because they lack in customization and player agency. Also 9 was horribly slow and sloggish. Clock the time it takes from battle to start to have your first character act. Then notice the delay from characters going from idle to ready stance to executing the command.
>>749334998>I'm not supposed to level up because the enemy rubber bands with me, I'm not supposed to use magic because the meta is hoarding it and junctioning it to your stats in order to keep pace with the rubber banding enemiesI never at any point felt like the enemy scaling in 8 was consequential.
>>749334605>NOT THIS ONE>GF spamESPECIALLY this one.
>>749334998Leveling up gives you easier access to strong spells. Magic is fucking EVERYWHERE retard. USE IT OR QUIT BITCHING ABOUT IT. Losing ONE point of strength in a fight isn't gonna kill you. Doomtrain exists for a reason. >>7493350507 is fucking dogshit and I could write a 30 page essay proving it mathematically.>>749335071As long as you aren't being a retard and refusing to junction your spells, it really isn't a big deal.>>749335090>I'm a retarded sack of shit that doesn't know how to read.Shut the fuck up.
>>749335071Because you knew it was a thing and junctioned accordingly. Most people didn't, it's not explained anywhere and the gameplay as presented encourages leveling and using magic, both of which are detrimental and make the game harder.
>>749335125I REPEAT. USING SPELLS DOESN'T MAKE YOU WEAKER IN ANY WAY THAT MATTERS. YOU GET A FUCKLOAD OF ITEMS TO REFINE, YOU WILL NOT RUN OUT.
>>749335027Come on! In the GF menu, if you press the button, you can see you can choose the abilities the GFs learn. If left default, they first learn the useless GF HP ups and GF Mag Ups. I know it was a meme that dumb players didn't know about it and didn't get the refining abilities until end game and were stuck spamming draw in random battles. You need to be better.
7>8>9I'm glad people are finally turning on 9. For over 20 years FF9fags have been clogging up every FF discussion space insisting that 9 is "far away the greatest game of them all, the rest are overrated schlock" but then when they try to describe why 9 specifically is great they immediately go to "charm" and "whimsy".9 has a bad overall cast, bad story, bad gameplay (basic combat, SLOW load times and animations), worse variety gameplay and side content than 7 and 8.It's easily the worst of the PS1 FFs and I don't believe anyone would think otherwise without the bias of online peer pressure
>>749335123You need to calm down, you seem autistic and screeching
>>749335192Summon Magic +60% is fucking massive. Though I usually erase the 10% one later to make room for other shit.>>749335220Slit your thoat, drink bleach, fuck a rabid wolverine, suffer, and bleed out in a ditch, now go fuck yourself.
>>749335214Nope. 7 is STILL the worst.>>749335323That's literally just an issue with the speed of the animations. It clogs up the queue.
