Today is the day, who's going to win?
its solomon and we all know it
I want violet but I played 20 Street Brawls last night and 18 of them had Deadman Tranny as the most voted, one had a 4stack all vote nurse harrow and one had Soloman as the majority.
whichever is most reddit and memeable, so likely the granny
It's Harrow
>>749354769i want nurse harrow lips to wrap around my thick cock, yesterdaynurse harrow HAS TO WWInshe is MINEI will use her mouth as I see fit
>>749355124The granny's already out. I'm starting to suspect that all the people shitposting and calling things reddit in these threads don't actually play the game.
does harrow swallow
harrow paizuri
>>749355296she does>>749355332she will paizuri if it is what u need
The votes always seem a bit pointless when they all get added over a 3 week period anyway.
>>749356742It's to create artificial engagement, the hype gets drawn out over a month instead of all heroes dropping the same day and the hype dying in a week
Moi- I mean Harrow, her abilities will do 7 different things each
>>749355248Wow, no shit.
>>749357958what makes the engagement artificial?
Board suddenly likes wokeness??
>>749358294timmy you don't even know what woke is
>>749354769Slavchads will make sure Solomon is the last
>>7493580483 of those abilities are grenades
>>749358665>Solomon would have been second>gets chained into last place because every winner's voters proceed to stack up against it
>>749354769In all of my matches it's been split between Harrow or Solomon.I hope Harrow, we need more non-pussy supports.
i just hope we dont get another baby brain character. every patch has at least one. victor, graves, etc
>>749359034>victor>not paigeAlso Rat King is baby brain.
Faggots ruined this game with censorship.
>>749361767>i chimped out like a low-mental shitlo retard and got reported>clearly this is the game's fault
>>749364149Yes, censorship is gay. Next question.
>>749364265that's not censorship, that's you getting banned for being an ape
>>749364327>its not censorship when you can't speak
>>749359034Like half the characters in the game are braindead retarded easy. Celeste, Victor, Graves, Abrams, Warden, the list goes on.
Billy takes skill.
>>749361767into the trash it goeth>>749364327sticks and stones faggot. the mute button is right there
Danny wins tonight.
>>749358665She looks like she fucks blue demon guys.
>>749366620Why mute when I can harm you, obnoxious person? Die already. Boil in shit.
>>749369891Uh-oh troon melty!!
>>749370121>t.
>>749369891>a temp mute in a game is doing anybody harmholy terminally online batman lmao
>>749370458>t-t-they ruined the game with censorship>I-I-I'm not harmedKEK
>>749354769Anyone but Violet. Violet needs to be last. I’m not even anti coomer. I just want coomer designs to also be interesting.
>>749361767You need to get more creative with your insults anon. Spamming slurs is 70iq.
>>749358665Are you sure? The chessnigger is leading Deadman Danny by a lot
>>749370513literally what the fuck are you talking about lmao. I've heard sodomite ass parasites cause brain fog but this spergout is ridiculous
>>749370843>too low IQ to even follow a thread with 40 repliesLMAO
>>749370801Are you referencing retarded polls that had granny dead last? Redditors are a tiny minority.
>>749370937>t.more capslock buddy
>>749370664Nope it still rustles your jimmies.
>>749371223How would it do that if you’re censored from speaking?
>>749370948Baba was never deadlast at any point, Violet was. In fact Baba was leading the polls last time.
>>749371287>xe thinks only words are effectiveI will give you a hint I will hunt you on the map and when I kill you I teabag relentlessly, I already got many people to dc with that alone.
>>749371978You’re clearly confused. I’m telling you that there are methods to avoid getting censored that still allow you to shit talk.
>>749372207Nope there is none. All it cares about is volume of reports, retard.
>>749372276Anon, the best insults are the ones that people only realize are insults after the game.
>>749372342It doesn't matter, if you post and do ANYTHING in the game someone doesn't like they will report you and you are banned. It does not care about the content.
>>749372472Never saw it happening, just stop being brown and unlikable.
>>749372472You choose a route where people don’t report you then. Like making vague comments that make the bad player reflect upon their own shit gameplay and insecurities. There’s always a strategy for shit talk.
>>749372592You will get banned for calling them useless it doesn't matter what you say even if it's a fact. >>749372551Because you are larping and don't say anything
>>749372472ahh, the AI special. wouldn't expect anything less competent and lazy from nuValve
>>749372472im toxic and not even comms bannedstop being a disingenuous faggot and tell us what you said
>>749372669>calling them uselessYou’re still too low iq to understand my point.
>>749372947He has posted the same pic like a dozen times by now, it's unlikely he even plays the game.
I must confess something. I always thought MOBAs are a p2w genre because of "buying items". I'm not sure how many actually are p2w, but until very recently, I thought that was the case for all of them.
>>749373230You're retarded.
>>749373230lmao
>>749354769These designs are terrible.
No one cares about this Milhouse game
>>749372947All I said "Calico, Drifter, Dynamo useless GG" the whole game nothing else and I have comm ban.
>>749373404yeah not sure wherr valve hires from nowadays but these are all just embarassing, not to mention the smarmy millenial writing surrounding it all
>>749373843well i say way worse things and im not
>>749373947Larp larp larp sahur!
>>749373230Where can I donate to whoever cares for you, retard?
>>749374083im not the one whos comms banned lmao
>>749374702Yeah cuz you are larping and are a nigger faggot.
>its danny
SKELLYBROS GET IN HERE
>>749361767>how dare they, I only said nigger 200 times in one match
SOLOMONKINGS RISE UP
It's a tranny game so of course not the only pretty character since you will never look like a cute girl
DOOT
WE WON STRATEGYBROSIT'S TIMEinb4 he's braindead
smacks lipsdas rite das rite
>>749377331FUCK
>>749377142UNIRONICALLY I had a guy in a match just like that.The funniest part is that he was negative K/D and was shittalking the highest K/D on our team. When everyone laughed at him he started spamming nigger and saying he was a ban evader.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKING SOLOMONKEYS IT WAS VIOLET'S TURN
RAT KING WON
It's okay Dannybros he's guaranteed the next one.Real question is whether Harrow or Violet will be after (my guess is Harrow).
Yakubniggers
>unironically voting for a NIGGERKill yourself, westoids
>his reload is playing a chess gameKinda cool
HES FUCKING EARTH SPIRITHES FUCKIG EARTH SPIRITBROOOOOOOSHOLY KINOOOOOOOOOOO
Let the seething commence
his abilities are fucking cool
Yeah this character is too big brain for me
Ok his skills and animations are actually fucking kino
His kit is literally the low mobility mauler.
Based Solomon winning
pretty cool pretty cool
Okay he's easily the coolest new hero I feel vindicated voting for him all this time.Firing/reload chessboard animation is 10/10.
holy bot thread
>solomon got thirdHad said as much he could be an upset pick over danny, and that he was. Not much to say, but it is kinda crazy how out of a roster of characters the skeleton ends up being chosen in the latter half than a front-runner over the humans. You cannot convince me that was organic, outside influences were involvedDanny’s a shoe-in for forth in such case, i’d put money on that
>execute on queen
my brain doesnt have enough wrinkles for this shit
>get clipped by a piece>ruh roh, looks like your are about to be chain stunned into the fucking shitter>also the damage is so high you will die before the end anywayThe fuck is this shit?
>If self-cast develop yourself as a king insteadLMAOOOOWE WUZ KANGZZZZZ
You can grief your teammates with knight
>ES in DeadlockEither 40% WR or the most broken faggot ever
This hero is way too high skill for me. I can't even aim fucking guns in this game there's no way I can aim a gun while also moving his bishops around
I'm literally too retarded to play him
So many Solomon players are going to be shit it's going to be funny seeing.
earth spirit gods we're back
>>749378158Solomon on your team is basically an insta loss for the next few days
>He's a PDF file Diddy Disciple
>>749378229I guarantee you it's just going to be echo shard on his 3rd for 80% of plays and that's it.
EARTH SPIRIT GODSAZIR CHADSHOW ARE WE FEELING RIGHT NOW????
>>749378292Ain't no party like a Solomon party
>>749378337Does he play like the best boi?
>Yet another area control teamfights heroGod, playing midboss against him will be pure bullshit.
Can someone please tell me how to work with venator.>slow movement speed.>Demands posistioning to make use of really short range shotgun into melee combo>People suggest maxing ult first.I want to actually grasp this hero but I feel like this character is a retards theory of ''what if spirit grey talon but run into enemy team'' he lacks survivability and mobility that I feel like I gotta stay in the background still just to crossbow people.
>>749378439You dont do autistic right clicks but yeah he summons chess pieces you need to move around and properly position on the battlefield for max effectiveness
>press the jump button>none of solomons buttons affect youlol? he seems like he's ass against anyone who knows how to use vertical movement
>>749378472you build gun and play around your traps. Melee venator is a meme build
Kneel
>>749378496He seems like he needs higher ground also just because of the way he has to move the bishops
AYO HOL THE FUCK UP
>>749378772NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRANNIES TOOK AWAY OUR BOY
>>749378468>All his chess pieces ping-ponging in that small rectangle followed by a queenWelp, time to grind
>>749378772>>749378804Rem came from Haze's dream.
>>749378472I dunno I just play grenade Venator in street brawl where nothing matters and it's pretty great
What does counterspell do to contact with the pieces?
>>749378772>Rem was secretly a loli all alongMy god...
>>749378772>>749378804REM is still a boy, Haze is his mom. REM slipped out during one of her dreamstalker missions and stayed in NYC.
>>749378439Drop pieces down but also not really. His 1 is permanent, so more like Dota's Earth Spirit. He also turns allies/himself into a piece.
>>749378772I can hear the furfaggots killing themselves right now
>>749378772Hes talking about Haze lmao
>>749378971>>749378945>Haze basically created and summoned Rem into the real world>she goes on walks with him off-duty when she de-shadowniggers as confirmed by BabaMOM HAZE MOM HAZE MOM HAZE MOM HAZE
Dude Solomon's dialogue is so boring. He's written like a goddamn marvel rivals character.
>more ammo adds more pieces to the boardActually cool
>>749379196He looks like a human version of that stupid fucking Overwatch robot that's why I don't like him
>>749379196I told people Solomon was bland as fuck. There is literally nothing to him besides his chess gimmick and being a nigger.
>>749379196>Dude Solomon's dialogue is so boring.Him and baba are disappointing as fuck, I'm holding out hope for harrow since she's supposed to be an angel
>>749379196What did you expect from black chess man by valve
>>749354769>cool art and designtoo bad it's still a MOBA
Holy fuck when you get all the pieces down hes actually insaneGuardians cant do shit
>>749378772>Rem's was Haze's imaginary friend back when she was a childSHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIT
>>749378772>MILF HazeYay
>>749379196>>749379248>>749379427Shut the fuck up tranny disinfo bitch
SHIEEEEET CHESSE NIGGER IS IN
I don't know why people are surprised and annoyed he's a hyperspecific nerdisn't that exactly what you expected?
>>749379196I like that his wish for the patrons might just be “hey, don’t do Seven’s wish lmao”
>>749378852I think that's was already impliedBut it being confirmed is neatALSO HAZE IS TECHNICALLY A MILF!
The Bishop should have to zigzag
>Solomon is the Carl of Deadlockenjoy having a retarded Pole who thinks he's a tier 1 pro throw your lane guys
>>749380029>he thinks Eastern Europeans are picking the black character.
>Billy loves park grandma>Billy hates park grandpa
>>749380085Billy is a poser.
How long for a yakub mod?
>>749379196>>749379820I was worried he was going to be a smug assholeBut him being just a chill old man that likes to connect with people through chess is niceAlso him using his wish to fuck over Seven is so funny>>749380085>>749380137Billy likes Grandma becuse she has the New Yorker rebel spiritSolomon has the know-it-all energy and Billy doesn't like that at all
>>749380085>>749380137Solomon didn't throw a brick at the Mandami.Baba allegedly didn't throw a brick at Mandami.
>>749380323He's not even that chill. He's just kind of blandly stern.
>>749380069Broken English burts my eardrums every time Infernus in my team dies
This guy's actually far easier than I thought he'd be. Once all your pieces are down it's party time. He's gonna be a nightmare in midboss fights.
Why are lesbians like this?
>Solomon's board state changes based on his max ammo>active reload sets it to turn 1>meanwhile rat king's ammo belt doesn't changefaggots, the lot of them
>>749380670They can't have items affecting character models because Valve needs to make profit from shitty hat gambling before the lawsuits catch up
>>749380465He's fucking retarded. I thought you need to look at the pieces and move them. Turns out you can spam Mouse 2 towards your enemy and your pieces move to your crosshair. It's fucking stupid. Ah, and the queen fucking executes.
>>749380989>>749380465Its kinda like Junkrat, you just spam sometimes and it works.
>Get a literal pooner on the team>Does nothing but feed and rage in voice chat all gameGod I hate trannies
>what the average solomon player feels like at this moment
>>749380465I got in one match against him, and I might just need to learn how to counter him, but he is super fucking obnoxious. He can fire abilities from down range at you and it doesn't matter if the nigger misses since he can just move it towards you. His ult also feels way too powerful for team fights right now due in part to that, with your only real defense is corralling yourself into a higher position. Maybe any characters who spend their time in the air will be good against him or doorman since he can just door to him.
>>749381312Some AOE/range reductions. I'd also like it if 3 started with 1 rook, and t2 gave the other piece
>>749381312from first impressions, keep the fight near areas with variable elevation. Bishop can be dodged by gaining height, and the rook will either bounce away or fall off the roof.
>>749381227Pooners always seem to gravitate to the weirdest Mr Bean type motherfuckers like Doorman kek.
A better man than me can work something out with him. Still pretty nice attempt of making a chess-like moveset, even if you panic a bit trying to find your bishop in the middle of a firefight.
I've finally found a viable Shiv build yeeeIt's dumb but I feel like I have cracked some complex mathematical equation. All his top builds are just garbageI've tried>Gun Shiv>Tank Shiv with some melee and sustain>Full knife Shiv>Whatever shit is popular that doesn't work for meAnd they all felt bad to play
>>749354769Vyper remodel when?
>>749381795Not a priority to them, apparently by their own claim. What's not to like anyway.
>>749381446Yeah that's probably what he's going to get. As is, he has too much going for him for team fights he himself doesn't even have to be in.>>749381456Yeah, but as appropriate as it is for the chess master, him being able to force you into a disadvantageous position for almost as long as he wants isn't fun. Having to fight for the rift but the only part you can stand on and contest it is on the bridge means you are probably not going to win that fight, unless his team is a nonfactor.
>>749381908She's the most requested for a remodel, this is AIDS. We seriously gonna be in a fucking Dota 2 situation again where a third of the roster doesn't get touched?
>>749381784Here it is in case anyone is curiousShadow Weave works quite well because you can throw a knife at someone by surprise, start blasting with the shotgun thanks to the extra stats you get with it + Quicksilver Reload and then jump at them
>>749380085park grandma throws bricks at authoritypark grandpa asks Billy to take a chill pillBilly likes gramgram more
>try to move my bishop>forgot I 2'd my teammate>send him directly into the fucking enemy teamOH NO LMAOOOOOOOO IM SO FUCKED
This dude is just Paige but even more defenseless
Hes so much fun when you get into the flow of his kitThough I keep accidentally shifting my applies after I shield em which is annoying
>>749378065both actually
>>749382209>moving teammates is now an optionCan't wait for raging, chestnut-brained solomon players to throw me into the enemy's sweet warm embrace.
They will learn to fear playing chess with Abrams
solomon looks like a complete bum character lol
>>749382209>mfw I send McGinnis to diethis guy is 100% gonna be a troll pick
>Solomon's outright calls her YagaAnd yet, no accent
>>749382209This dude is gonna get -disablehelp addedYou could displace teammates before but he can just do it constantly at no risk
>>749382651valve's product team probably came up with some no unique accents bullshit to attract more NA
>>749382651Well maybe Putin should've thought about not invading if he wanted his nation represented in Deadlock. That's why Raven was deleted too, by the way. Inside info. Trust.>>749382726He said as a Jamaican chess nigger just dropped into the game 2 hours ago.
>>749373230I know you are pretending, but this is hilarious, anon. Have an updoot
>>749382862black people are an exception, americans love le funny sounding token black man
>>749382651American Russian diaspora accent is indistinguishable from Jewish accent which she has
>>749382920That’s just because ashkenazi Jews are just eastern euros that pretend to be Jewish.
>his chess board actually gets more pieces if you buy/get extra ammothats soul
>>749383086psst, anonpop active reload
The deadman is coming
can we contain the trannies and russians in their general? why is this thread still up?
i've not played any mobashit since the warcraft 3 days in the 2000s. i don't care that much about the whole thing but the tps aspect of deadlock really intrigues me.
BLACK GUY, WOMEN, GET IN HEREGET IN COSTUME
>>749383962ELDERLY PARK INHABITANTS, UNITE
>>749383991Rodger
>>749383962WHAT WERE THEY THIIIIINKING
>>749354769lol stupid nigger will have the lowest winrate faggots
>>749361767try to keep your emotions in check and maybe this wont happen next time
Why can't I matchmake? Keeps telling me my client is out of date. I've verified files and restarted Steam.I JUST GOT HOME FROM GAY WAGESLAVING, I WANT TO PLAY
>Earth Spirit but frail and good no movement Yep, he is in 40% winrate with only defining feature being midboss contest merchant
>>749361767every day with this brown nigger
>>749380085It's not Billy, retard. It's Sven.
>>749373843>only way to get comms banned is if your entire team reports you>insult your entire teamAn IQ too high?
>>749361767>NOOOOOOO I WANT TO SAY NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER THIS ISNT FAIR TRUMP HELP ME
>>749373843>Why yes I said it no less than 273 times while running it down mid after minute 5 but that's beside the point
>>749385128>>749385203
>his second skill literally turns him into a KANGValve...
People are really creaming themselves over an Earth Spirit function just because he's black, huh?
>>749386949I don't know dota shit I like him because I get to do shitty Jamaican impressions on mic now
>black man character apparently knows everyone in the cast and also no one has anything bad to say about him and also even the meanest, cruelest characters talk to him like a trusted confidanteFuck off diversity niggers
How long has Rat King been a thing?
>>749387365Exactly 1 week
>>749387163>Ignoring Seven calling him a weak spinned faggot>Ignoring Billy calling him a scammer and a cheaterwhy do you have to LIE to be angry
>>749387904And you're ignoring that Seven makes no threats towards him and the usual verbose nigger is limited to 2 word responses when given advice?Billy was just hustled so he's mad, he hasn't insulted him like he does most of the cast
>>749387163Rem thinks his game that he dedicated his life to sucks. And that's why Rem is the ONLY based character on the roster.
>Even in the nebulous nior era of Deadlock middle America is an unexplored area ripe with whendingoes and bigfootCool bit of lore
>0/4 by 2nd round of street brawl>pic related>ragequitsalright which of you was it?
Well Solomon, for as much as I didn't want him to win because of his weird push based solely on race, is really unique. Pretty cool.
>>749387365well rats only live a couple years, so not long
>>749384821i don't like how everything is around the M2 buttonits way too easy to use the knight reposition skill when just trying to move your bishops.I also feel the bishops don't do anything for the speed the game requires for kills
>>749391498Bishops have a slow and stacking spirit shred at max rank. they will definitely be pulling out sleeper kills late game.
>>749391498>its way too easy to use the knight reposition skill when just trying to move your bishops.It's the opposite problem to me, you can't use knight reposition if any bishops are in view.
>>749391498>>749392362You're meant to be fighting from rooftops and abusing his low gravity. From above it's way easier to select and find angles, plus you can use the knight to drag people up onto rooftops
Why do the Bishops ignore the movement rules of a bishop?Its very jarring, especially when the diagonal squares are visible, almost likes thats where it should be able to move to.
>>749392564Probably because it would be unplayable dogshit. You'd be able to walk at him in a straight line and there's nothing he could do about it lol
>>749392624except idk, use his rooks?
>>749392652Retarded logic
>>749392546Even then viable view angle for bishop should still be reduced a bit, it's ridiculous how large it is.
>>749392824Now imagine how much shittier it feels for the enemy who can't shoot through your pieces and has to deal with absolute screen clutter cancer orbitally bombarding them
How does one go about playing this game
>>749393161You need to get invitedSurely you have a friend who can invite you?
What's Solomon's deal? Is he another inter dimensional being like Doorman but has a different outlook on the whole "observing humanity" thing?
>>749393965If they're a nigger or gay, there's a high chance they're the highest level of power in the universe
>>749394079Yeah, but he still gets verbally beaten down by Rem of all characters.
>>749393965Old person who’s power level is a mystery but is well beyond the average character, like Baba.
>>749393965In his victor(?) voicelines he says that he isn't sure how the patrons grant wishes which shows he's not all knowing. He also says that he is ready to die because he has had a long life. I think he is just the "with age comes wisdom" trope turned up to 11
>>749393965Seems to just be an old man, maybe really old, but is younger than Drifter. Dude's just a wizard that picked up chess. Baba seems to treat him as an equal.
>>749394182Do you think she invited him to the fertility ritual thing when they were younger. Or is that only for big blue men
>>749394249>witch whoresI think they just go with anybody off the street that takes their fancy. You know how wiccan girls are.
>>749393965Magical negro thats about it desu. His powers are cool though.
>Solomon doesnt just pull out a glockRetarded
>>749393965He's from the new york society of magical negros. Oh, and he's going to burn his wish to screw over that faggot Seven by wishing to undo his wish.
which one was the best hero update so far? Based on the characters alone.
>>749394501Mina/Billy/Paige/Doorman/Victor/Drifter is still the best set but they've all been good.
>>749394475>Oh, and he's going to burn his wish to screw over that faggot Seven by wishing to undo his wish.I like how Seven is cocky that he doesn't need the patrons but then also got flustered over the idea of Solomon doing that.>>7493945016 new heroes > Old God New Blood >>>>> Hero Lab survivorsCity that Never Sleeps I will reserve judgement until I see the interactions of the unreleased.
>>749394501Whichever has the fewest niggers
>Baba isn't baba yaga herself just an old yiddish witch>People theorizing Solomon was a discount patron like Doorman because they both have strange halos.>People also thin Harrow will some kind of ancient angel Honestly glad the community has been so far off.
>>749394501>Old Gods>6 new-billy=current CnS(could go up or down depending how the next 3 play out)> Herolabs>whale shit> billy
Waiting for them to add the equivalent of this into the game.
>>749394923I shudder to think what Shiv's one could be.
Imagine being Seven and getting cucked out of godhood cause a chess nigga decided to cancel your wish to prove a point
>>749395051>>749394602Why doesn't Seven just pop him like a zit right before winning
>>749395181Would imagine that would break the ritual and the point would be moot. It would also be why Grey Talon/Shiv doesn't stomp Drifter's shit in.
>>749394923>Billy does a mini ult pull every time he slamsheheheh
>>749394923can't wait for a Dagon
>>749395228I thought the reason everyone helped each other was because they need to the secure the win and it's presumed that all enemies are similar levels of threats. It's not that they can't kill each other, it's that they'll all die without every advantage they can getBut if the win's basically guaranteed I can't see Drifter or Seven not just backstabbing people for fun
>>749395181Cause he'd be exiled from the gay community for committing a hate crime
>>749394923I don't think they will if only because froog has said in the past the worst part of any hero design in dota is coming up with an Aghs upgrade.
I feel like Baba does fuck-all early game. Like her gun is so bad without 1.
>>749394501All smiles :)
>>749394750>because they both have strange halos.Nigger it's because they both have weird powers. Even now Solomon's is unexplained.
>>749394501doorman set is just on another level. for better or worse it completely changed the art direction of the game and you can tell there was a change in actual hero gameplay design from that point onwards.
>>749395576>because they both have weird powersThat applies to half the cast and the answer is just "they're a wizard".
>>749394501>>749395596Yep.Doorman and Mina were essentially the big turning points on the game.Even fucking anons here couldn't believe Mina was a Valve character.
>>7493945012nd is what got me interested in the game.Valve came up with an actual artstyle instead of whatever the fuck that shit was before.
>>749395596>you can tell there was a change in actual hero gameplay design from that point onwards.They went from 'this is a shooter with some moba elements' to ' this a first person moba' Doors/Baroness, Knight charge, and drifter smoke don't really gel with shooter first mentality.
>>749395851>first person
>>749394501The Mina/Doorman/Paige/Drifter/Billy/Victor one completely saved this game's soul. Old Gods New Blood was a pretty mixed bag and I'd argue Graves is destined for a large scale revamp before launch. Hero Labs characters have all landed on their feet but they all still suck visually. New batch stinks so far.
I thought it was just shitposting, but after seeing Solomon lines, they’re right, all the niggers in this game are DEI sluts, they’re all just chungus chill dudes who almost everyone in the cast likes, even the fucking mob boss is like that, the whole conversation about how the spirits of the people she killed don’t hold a grudge against her is so shit. It makes them all so fucking safe and boring, they’re all one note (bar, gambling, chess) and have no real personality beyond that, they are at the same height that Viscous
>>749396551You say this but everyone fucking hates Calico (Outside of Doorman who is well... Doorman).
>>749396551Solomon's entire thing is being a people-watcher who is old. That doesn't engender ire. Everybody hates Calico. Wraith is disliked by about half the cast.
>>749396551>why isn't everyone le heckin racist!Do you ever get tired of turning everything into an argument?
>>749369891lmao based. someone tries to ruin your day by insulting you, I ruin their day by getting them banned
>>749396551retard
>>749396551I disagree except for Infernus, who really should have one character who remembers he used to be a piece of shit and hates him because of it.
>Last two Solomon games were wins with positive kdIm starting to get it, I like that you barely have to use his gun
>>749396850Ivy, kinda.
>i only play street brawl for fun because i don't understand a full match>people try hard street brawl by only choosing good street brawl characters likes graves and paige>street brawl is just less fun
>>749396551This is true for most characters in the game I feel, very few of them are allowed to be actually even moderately evil, and even the evil ones would never do something fucked up like misgender Pocket or use slurs.
>>749396551nobody likes calico and people tolerate wraith because she's a mob boss whom they likely owe money to but nobody is actually friends with her
>>749396850Several characters outright distrust and hate him.
>>749396938>Oh you wanted to have fun for 10 minutes?
>>749397002They distrust him, nobody hate him
>>749394501First 6 was better than OGNB and saved the gameCity Never Sleeps has a good shot at being better. New map has much more play to it and the two of the three heroes we have so far are very interesting and they're all fun to play. Solomon is their first go at making a character that is actually complex and I'm looking forward to learning him even if it's impossible to actually get him at the moment. Solomon being like Earth Spirit makes Violet being like Invoker much more likely.
>>749395689A lot of them are explicitly demons or vampires or whatever. Or "they're a wizard" but literally the case like with seven.You can definitely picture Solomon being a Doorman type. Some otherworldly being whose taken to a quiet life as a park chess hustler, it's not as though that's even been disproven since they've decided to leave the reason for his powers a mystery.
>>749397031Replace Victor with Baba, that hero is just insane in a game mode where her weak lane and farming doesn't hinder her.
>>749397190I've tried her a few times and I don't get it. Is it all about her 1? Her 4 seemingly takes so long
>>749397161That's just cope, Solomon is so fucking boring that people are grasping for shit to make him more interested
>It's been approximately 6 hours>No gooner chess piece mod>Not even a big tiddy Queen mod for ultDisappointed in modders.
>>749397257My experience it is the 2. People don't know how easy it is to parry.
>>749397335Parrying her doesn't really do much. She has a ton of resist doesn't get stunned from it.
Why did they name him after a school shooter?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Antioch_High_School_shooting
>>749397257i haven't played her well yet but seeing teammates do well with her you have to throw the thread out then goomba stomp into their team to guarantee it hitsyou abuse her smallish hitbox to just dance all around in their ranks while spamming bullshit and hope someone on your team is smart enough to follow up in the confusion
>>749394501>>749397138Six New Heroes is the most important one because it established the aesthetic and style of the game. If Mina and Doorman flopped, Deadlock was set to die in 2025.OGNB I feel is them caring less about the setting and filling certain archetypes and roles more. They did get exceedingly luckt with how well Rem was received.CNS is filled with NYC tropes again while also pushing the mechanics of the game as much as possible. I'm already expecting Danny to be a way more complex flying hero, Harrow to be a way more complex and risky support, and Violet being fill on gimmicky like Solomon. Thankfully Rat King is simple and straightforward.
>>749396551>famously beloved assassin, calico.
>>749397430of course, nobody was ever named solomon until some 2010s nigger
>>749397652I didn't name her for a reason, you retarded fuck
>>749396551Yeah they're all smug pieces of shit or zero personality ex-turbo badasses that everyone super duper fears
>>749397813>>749396551there is literally nothing that would satisfy you.
>>749394923Maybe they will with the item update. Does anyone have any theories on what the item update will entail exactly? I've always thought Deadlock's items were weird flavorwise, but I don't really have much of an opinion on the mechanics.By flavorwise, I mean that many of them don't sound like "items" at all, they just sound like magical boons. Which is fine, but the first thing I think of when I think of the occult is magical artifacts, spellcasting components, objects of that nature. Yet almost none of the Deadlock items give off that feeling. The items as they are now are mostly pragmatic. It's not like, "Buy a monkey's paw and a vial of unicorn blood," it's, "Buy Lifesteal and Fury Trance." Kinda' weird. I know anyone can just tell me I'm dumb because they're placeholders, but are they? They just updated the way they look.This might be a hot take, but if I were making this game from the ground up, comparing and contrasting with Dota, I'd put shops all around the map that each sell that different items. It is a city, after all. It makes sense in Dota that you can find the happy merchant resting in base but there also exists a secret shop in the woods to create these dramatic late game moments where the losing team is trying to build a new item that could turn the tides but they have to take care not to get caught by the enemy. I'm not sure that logic applies to Deadlock, though. It's a bustling city. There should be shops everywhere selling their own wares and it's not too much of a hassle since everyone moves at mach 5.
>>749397934Make literally any of them stutter, hesitate, show an insecurity, or show the slightest flaw in their voicelines and I'd be happy. Even Drifter, Seven, and Billy despite all being "I don't give a fuck, I'll rape you" characters have lines where they get shut down. The literal closest thing I can think of to any of the black characters at all showing that they aren't just impervious badasses is one of the recent lines from Wraith where in the middle of a wholesome chungus conversation she stutters to show she's not 100% confident in the ritual. A single line across 6 or 7 niggers who otherwise always have the perfect comeback
>>749354769Harrow, Violet and Deadman These are the last picks because the deadcock community is retarded troon pedophiles.
>>749398106One of the things that has made it easier for non-assfaggots players is the current item names. Something like "Vampiric Burst" is easily more understandable on function than "Satanic", or "Glass Cannon" vs "Divine Rapier". Of course, when you get into the weeds of the game this isn't needed, but it is fine for newer players.
>>749398132Calico gets caught off guard many of times.Ivy disarms Infernus during their interaction.Wraith doesn't come out on top of the Drifter interaction despite trying to make a wager with him work.Solomon gets BTFO by Rem.
>>749378692I kneel
>>749398106I think more items just need to build into more items (besides the pattern of a straight upgrade path like Extra Spirit -> Improved Spirit -> Boundless Spirit)
>>749398389it is kind of shitty that a lot of core items are understatted tier2s but you can never get rid of them because their effects make or brake heroes.
>>749398489>t3+ fleetfoot/intensifying/titanic magplease
>>749398295I asked for something that shows they aren't impervious badasses, not Wraith and Drifter wholesome bantering or the literal child saying something childish and not worth acknowledging to the guy who also makes Seven start panickingI didn't say that they can't have banter, I want something that shows that they aren't all impervious. Anyone can say "no u, ad hom, conversation closed" which is how 50% of interactions between all characters end, that's not the same as making Drifter fearful of Doorman or like half the conversations with Billy getting bullied.None of what you said actually shows an insecurity in any of the characters. Not getting a complete win in a conversation =/= showing a flaw
>>749394716What do you mean "whichever"? They're right there, can you not count? racists are walking parodies lmao
>>749398728How much were you paid today raaj
>>749398572>wholesome banteringWraith literally flips over and shows her belly. "I'm really scared of you already don't try to scare me"
>>749398857The conversation with the gambling, which you said, is pure wholesome. The whole "don't threaten me" convo was a different one and it barely even sounded like she cared. But yes we consider that a flaw even if it's the most lukewarm one and on the character that I already said has another voice line saying she isn't confident in the ritual. Now what about the other five giga badasses that laugh in the face of Drifter, Seven, and Venator
>>749398572Don't bother, leftists deliberately pretend not to understand what the issue is with that kind of character, and even if you try to explain it to them, they'll just call you a racist or some other -ist
>>749395782Its what made me come back at try the game again.I had a friend who quite liked it but I didnt want to learn another moba.That hit, thought the visual update looked good and the new characters interested me, so I slammed my head into 20 bot games to at least get my bearings. Then got addicted
>>749399063Solomon has barely any interactions and gets shit on by a child. Calico is hated by most of the cast and discarded by half as a threat. Wraith is, as previously outlined, utterly outclassed by several other characters and says as such. Infernus is browbeaten constantly for his past and otherwise overlooked.
>>749397318>to make him more interestedlolAnd what cope? It's just a simple fact that most of the heroes in the game have some explanation for why they can do what they do. And most of the ones that don't are like Kelvin where it's explicitly meant to be a mystery.
>>749399206Every single Solomon interaction except that one with the child is him acting like the wise saint that knows more than the strongest characters and makes Seven start panicking. Him "getting shit on" is the most childish shit and literally only works because it's a child. It's like a teenager calling screaming at you; you look like a retard if you even bother responding. If that was Billy saying no one gives a shit about chess with the same line as Rem, verbatim, Solomon would instead just say "uhm actually your rebellion needs a leader so you need a king or else you're just a pawn of the man etc etc" or some other instant disarm.Calico is hated but it doesn't mean shit. Being hated doesn't mean having a flaw. Every single interaction with her involves saying "xdd but I'm rich and have a yacht and I'm actually a super great person" to literally every single person that hates her. There isn't a flaw there. Being hated isn't an insecurity. Wraith being outclassed in lore is a meme. She's the redditor dev self-insert. She's allowed to lose a convo because the entire cast owes her money or some shit and she's capable of making even the people she killed have zero issues with her.>Infernus is browbeaten for his pastLike 3 characters bringing it up and saying "you used to be cooler bro" is literally nothing because he just says "I became a better man" in response and shows no insecurity.You're completely missing the point. I don't give a fuck about whether they lose some Discord-tier "fuck you" "no u"-tier argument. The literal boogeymen of the story all have lines showing they can be bested but the Five Horsemen of Melanin are incapable of it.
>>749399514Calico is literally a crazy cat lady who kills people. Her flaws are obvious.>NONE OF THE BLACKS HAVE FLAWSYou have a point with Solomon, who literally doesn't have enough interactions yet. Literally every other character has obvious and outlined flaws.
>>749399514Calico gets fucking shit on by Vyper for doing sloppy work for failing to kill Pocket.Infernus acts very carefully and quietly around Bebop because he (possibly) did something to Ms Shelly in the past.Wraith is like Yamato-lite in personality, just less cruel.Solomon for the most part is boring though.(Who is the fifth nigger?)
Like none of the nigger will get a conversation like this one here with Doorman talking shit about Drifter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToGgb4e9s9Y
>>749399604>>749399712You're 100% missing the point on purpose. Find me lines that show them shitting their pants like Drifter does against Doorman or Seven does against Solomon or Billy does when he just has to stop talking against half the cast. Otherwise you're just disingenuously saying that because they aren't just steamrolling everyone in conversation that it's the equivalent of the literal villains of the story shitting their pants.Someone saying some dumb shit to you and the conversation ending is not the same as you admitting you're not perfect.
>>749399316What about Lash?I do agree with you that people are coping, but not EVERYONE is fully explained as well as they could be.
>>749354769>all of the reddit core characters have gotten in first>next week Tuesday it'll be the Artsy chickkek.
>>749378692>Slavs and tourists on suicide watchit was worth not getting danny just to see them shut the fuck up
>>749399721For Calico, it's because she is a regular at the Baroness, why would he shit on his clientele?For Infernus, he wouldn't get on Doorman's radar, he is polite.No interaction with Solomon or Wraith so much of a muchness, but I doubt they would get his ire anyway. Like, you are missing the point of Doorman's character if you think he will make people shit their pants for no reason, you either have to threaten him, his guests or the baroness itself for him to even give as much as a callous remark.
>>749399753Don't have much of a dog in this race but>shitting their pantsis usually reserved for characters who are shown to be smart/powerful in their own right. Like Graves isn't painted as flawless mary sue because she doesn't take shit from anyone about the Lich hand. She's painted as naive and in denial, too green to know any better.
>>749378772He's obviously not talking about rem here, it's alluding to rems creator
>>749399871You're a retard, is not about Doorman
All this talk about the niggers not getting dunked on and here is Yamato just existing.
>>749399951I know that but it is part of my bigger point: Why would of the usual suspects get them to stutter or some shit.Doorman doesn't care if you aren't threatening the baroness, which none of the niggers would.Drifter likes wanton violence and most of the niggers fall into that category, plus, many already know who he is so they wouldn't talk back like... I don't know Mina would. He is reactive when he becomes big scary vampire.Seven only has one has one line where he scares someone and that's fucking Lash.Haze wouldn't deal with many of them, too low for the OSIC.... I can't think of any other scary characters that can dismantle them. I guess Viscous or Rem, but both is more of a "Uh... sure kid" whenever they trip someone up rather than an actual flaw unless if you count something like Apollo inviting Viscous to a ball as the same thing.
>>749396551Everyone hates billy and he's blackcoded
>>749399514>>749399721You're wasting your time. Stuff like this is sufficiently complicated that sophists can always maneuver around the issue to pretend it doesn't exist. Some of them make lucrative careers out of it.
>>749399753>wraithDrifter>CalicoBacks off from Shiv>solomonToo early>infernusNobody particularly "Scares" him but he gets shamed and loses half of his interactions
>>749400183>punk>blackcoded
>>749400261And particularly sensitive people will create problems and insist they exist even with evidence to the contrary. Really, you're just complaining that Solomon didn't get humiliated enough.
>>749396551trvthnvke
>>749400384No, that anon's exactly right and it's been a problem in media for decades. You didn't post any evidence, you posted excuses for the lack of evidence. I don't know what you're going to do in the coming decades, because this shit is going out the window.
>>749399514>saying "xdd but I'm rich and have a yacht and I'm actually a super great person" to literally every single person that hates her. anon, that is a flaw called 'being a little bitch' and to be honest, calico's self-aggrandizement really comes off as rather childish compared to the other resident bitch paradox or even the king of self-aggrandizement, lash. like, her point is that she's a bit over her head with an ego greater than her (admittedly impressive) skill.and yeah, like the other anon said, calico got knocked down a peg when vyper says that assassins even as far as wisconsin have been making fun of her for her sloppy work with the fairfax heir, or drifter calling her pretty much the mediocre shitter of the baxter soceity, or even the hidden king ego-checking her by straight up saying as dangerous as she is, she's not even the apex predator.
>>749400519The lack of evidence in your mind being that solomon didn't get repeatedly humbled in his release dialogues or that Calico doesn't get pouty and throw a hissy repeatedly even as she "loses" conversations.
Just saying that Dynamo has never been on the backfoot of his convos either.
>>749399953most people probably don't know who she is
>>749400609Of the conversations she does have, they all know what the Seventh Moon is. I doubt that they wouldn't know the head honcho.
>>749394501OGNB
>>749400651hmm, i'm pretty sure they know her brother, not her, or something similar to that given how recent it seems that she replaced him
>>749396551You're absolutely correct, I noticed this independently. Every single one is wise and professional because they're afraid of making a nigger look crazy or low IQ
I'm not an FPS nut but how did they justify nerfing guns when like a third of the roster is dependent on them?
It's insane how shit and generic these heroes are compared to the March lineup.Game really flatlined in quality. Silver was the peak.
>>749400854i've always maintained that nurse harrow seems to be the most interesting of the current lineup, followed by deadman danny
EVERY VYPER PLAYER IS A MASSIVE LOBOTOMITE
>>749394501the second one set the game in motion
Imagine if Lash or Drifter were coonskinned.
>>749400854you tell em xister i am also a trans lesbian by the way
>>749400803Maybe, but the only to suggest that is the people that initially met Yamma in America calling her by her brother's name. Outside of that, everyone seems pretty informed of her own deeds.
>>749396551Geist calls pocket a poorfag
>>749400813>Most spells can only be cast once every 10-15 seconds for mid-high 100's of damage, a rare selection doing 1k at max power>guns deal 200+ dps with just a few items and have barely any downtimea mystery
>>749398106I would have preferred all items being named/titled artifacts but I don't think they're going to do it this late into the game after everybody has learned everything. I would settle for only T3/T4 items being properly named but I think even then they won't bother.What I hope to get out of the item update is broader forks for t1s and t2s as well as making so that everything upgrades at least to t3.That, and more consumables. The way Egg is implemented its practically a consumable so I want them to explore that design space. Wards, scans, fortifications, shrinking potions for the vents, mobility potions, there is a lot of room to experiment.
>>749354769How can Valve keep up pumping amazing hero designs one after another?
trying to leaen this game is hard i feel so useless and stupid and i hate it i suck
>>749388063>IT DOESNT COOOOOOOUNT
>>749400384No, it's about none of the nigger in the game actually show their vulnerable side, they're always cool dudes all the time. Take the scene with Mina and Pocket, where Mina says she’s not sure about her feelings for Pocket, and the scene with Infernus, where he doesn’t know what he’d do if Wraith pushed him back into his old ways, one is a serious, dramatic scene that redefined the character, and the other is treated almost like a joke, just another “I’ll be a better man” shitThen there are scenes like the one with Geist and Victor, where Geist offers to help him, and the one with Yamato and Page, where Yamato is willing to be friends with Page. Both are ruthless characters who show compassion and kindness toward complete strangers. Now look at the scene with Wraith and Mo/Krill, where Wraith does the same thing, except Mo/Krill are literally indentured slaves to Wraith, and the game treats the scene as a display of Wraith’s human side, it’s bullshit.
what about this game attracts so many fags? the community is unlike the other valve games, even the modern tf2 audience. obviously their discord is filled with self-identifying retards, but even in game you'll typically find lobbies filled with the rated-E minority crowd
>>749388669Wendigoes is northern US/Canada not Appalachia. Appalachia is Mothman, Flatwood's Monster, and the Moon-eyed people
>>749401394buff spells then
>>749394335Witches tongue devils' anuses for power. Abrams better not fall for it
>>749395354Well they hired Hoopoo and he put that shit in his own games too
>>749401763Anon Wraith is laughed at as a compulsive gambler by Doorman. It comes back up with Drifter. She has giant, glaring weaknesses. You're just hypersensitized to niggers and find the inclusion of such to be objectionable, to the point that you invent contests to conversations to render them objectionable too.
>>749402007>no, you see, you're just racist, there's nothing wrong with those hecking chungus black fellows
>>749401683That's how everybody feels learning their first MOBA. Stick with it and you'll get better.
>>749402125You're obviously racist, you wouldn't deny being racist. You are also inventing a further problem to your fundamental one. You can just hate them for the colour of their skin, this is 4chan, we say the whole n-word here.
how the fuck do i destroy the nigger's bishops they're blocking my shots constantly and do a billion fucking damage from zones you can't fucking see
>>749402125anon, i will say this to you, you have the same sensitivity for niggers as leftists have for white men. the only one with that problem is solomon, and he suffers the same sort of problem as baba, which stems from the fact that they have too few interactions with other heroes, and a lot of their (very scant and few) interactions just showing off their good side, with solomon being the only guy in the deadlock cast to actually catch seven off-guard. that's about it.
Why even make a poll if you're just going to rig it and release the characters in whatever order you want anyways?
>>749396551black people don't exist in America, they are a DEI psyop to you types!
>>749397434>Harrow to be a way more complex and risky supportI really fucking hope she's like a Vaul Archmage from Warhammer Online, not really a healer but a lifeforce swapper between allied and enemy targets.
>>749400854I don't like that we got two flavors of the same old magical park dweller back-to-back and Rat King is too much of a meme to be taken seriously. I'm really pinning my hopes on these last three for more interesting kits and better characterization. I'm dreading Violet being a retread of another naive teenager like Graves and Paige.
>>749402304Baba isn't a one-dimensional character, she has her disregard for authority, her pigeons, her magic, her hatred of tourists, she hides her power and knows many powerful people, like Haze's boss. People are allowed to disrespect her, like Victor who thinks she’s only participating in the ritual because she’s dying, or the Rat King who shows open hostility toward her even though she treats him with respectChess nigger is just about chess and being wiser than you
I really think that Wraith needs a complete rewrite, she’s a fucking murderous mafia boss, but there are way too many scenes where she’s treated like she’s a good person, like the scenes that the other anons have already mentioned, the scene with the spirits, and her relationship with Mo and Krill being treated as if they were good old friends, when in reality they’re her slaves.
>>749403187she pays them in disgusting furry sewer sex
>>749403187Wraith is definitely the character I think is the worst written. Maybe it's valid to complain about the 'Magical Black Man' trope with Solomon but at least he's just a fucking guy in the park, there's no reason people SHOULD hate him. Whereas Wraith is a gambling den owning loan shark who has killed people who don't pay up. But is apparently so above reproach that even those people she killed don't hold it against her, it's fuckin stupid how the worst thing anyone has to say about her is to warn innocent kids from working with her, and even that is soft.
What if the Archmother flashes her fat ass in the middle of the battlefield
>>749403187Mo & Krill I can get, they are "honourable" criminals and it sounds like Wraiths motto is "Pay up or be shot". Respect her and she'll respect you.That said, I wouldn't mind something like more barb in her interaction with Yamato who is a rival criminal, or even Paradox getting a few jabs at her for treading on poor people with poor impulse control instead of the rich fucks that Paradox steals from.
>>749403264I thought that's what Pocket was for?
>>749403187I also like that it's an open secret that she has a bunch of kids from blackmore academy working for her, but fucking nobody calls her out for it or gives her shit about it
>>749403697The ones that usually brings it up are criminals themselves. Ivy is completely in the dark about Sophia until Vyper mentions it, and Dynamo more or less threatens Wraith if she hurts one of his students.
>>749402635>Baba isn't a one-dimensional character, she has her disregard for authority, her pigeons, her magic, her hatred of tourists, she hides her power and knows many powerful people, like Haze's bossyou are literally describing solomon minus the tourist and authority hate, 2/3rds of seven and solomon's conversations are basically just seven calling solomon a pussy
>>749403187I agree, and I said as much about her recent interaction with Graves on the feedback forum. There is an issue I'm seeing with characterization in the game where the villainous characters are beating treated too wholesomely across the board. It's okay for villains to be villains and to be written that way.Beyond Wraith, I think the problem is exemplified with Calico. Most of what we've seen shows her as this callous high society assassin that operates with eye watering contract fees but now she is being softened because apparently she botched her job on Pocket intentionally to save his life. I try to not be racist but if you look at Infernus there really is a pattern of Black Criminal with a Heart of Gold even if I do think Infernus is the most natural fit for it.
nu/v/ is just the mirror image of tumblr
>>749404136>here is an issue I'm seeing with characterization in the game where the villainous characters are beating treated too wholesomely across the board. Seven, Drifter and Yamato aren't though.
>>749404136Is really just them trying to make criminal niggers look good, none of the other villains have this problem. Seven is the best example, he has a soft spot for children and for people willing to pursue their potential (Rem, Graves), but he’s still a full villain
I want Warden voice lines, even if it is simple shit that would be obvious.
>>749404136>Black Criminal with a Heart of GoldYeah, that's the problem, Calico, Wraith, and Infernus are all this, they're the same fucking character, I wouldn't be surprise if they make Solomon have a criminal past too, fuck it
>>749404745Infernus I get, that's his entire character. Wraith doesn't strike me as a "heart of gold", just "fair" in her gambling, which is extremely boring and doesn't work with her whole deal.Calico only recently had that aspect added and I hate it, much prefer that she fucked up the hit against Arin because of [insert fairfax/pocket briefcase bullshit].
>>749404136infernus is a reformed black criminal tho
>>749405348That's what I meant by a natural fit, he doesn't give me whiplash while Wraith and Calico do. I mind Wraith's friendly persona, it makes sense for her to have that because she's running an establishment that is probably on good terms with plenty of returning customers, but she should have a dark side. Most of what you see Tony Soprano doing is bullshit and delegating to cronies but even he gets violent and busts in heads from time to time.
