What game will finally dethrone Genshin as the number 1 gacha in the world?
>>749396986Fuck off.
>>749396986No wait, on second thought stay.
>>749396986Azur Promilia definitely won't but it'll be a better game.
>gachafag
Uma Musume and it's not close
>>749396986Why is her head so disproportionately big?
>>749397274>horse girl gameSorry but I'm not a furry
>>749397359They aren't furries althoughbeitchance
>>749396986>>749397112Cute, needs it in the butt.
>>749397634They are thoughbeithowever
>>749396986FGO is still the numbah 1
>>749396986Wasn't it supposed to be Wuthering Waves? What happened?
>>749398394LOL
Hah, I've just ejaculated. These gacha whores have no power over me anymore.
>>749398394tower of fantasy*
>>749396986ananta
>>749397940still? how?
>>749398394>wuthering wave>supposed to dethrone genshinlmfao, their anniversary plus cyberpunk collab couldn't even reach the sales of "lol lohen brick no one rolled him" genshinwuwa having too many timeloop and cases of "this girl is destined to become rover's lover after he fixed everything, never seen again after one patch" made it extremely boring
>>749396986Swirling your morning turd around. If you see specks of yellow that's an SSR. You can take a picture and share the log of fortune with your friends.
>>749399302>how?by making it the fuck up
>>749397274Uma Musume ain't gonna dethrone anything. That game becomes job tier tedious after a while, so only the most hardcore gacha nerds keep playing long term.
>>749399772Why is this guy's face spammed on /b/?
>>749396986The Tom and Jerry gacha, obviously.
>>749396986That Celestial Nail doesn't have this. Play the game, OP.
>>749398394Idk I just checked the tier list and looks like all the hyped 1.x characters are dead weight now. Genshit has powercreep but nowhere near this bad. Klee is good now and Hutao and Xiao are still decent even at their lowest right now. Camellya was my fav and if they wanna make all the old characters into Eula then I'm probably never coming back.
I started playing recently and I hate the fact that when I get new characters I need to visit new zones for the rank up materials, and get spoiled with shit I don't know about. Anyways, here is Mona.
>>749398394>>749401721The only way to get Shorekeeper now is paying $~150
>>749399772What it's not swirling and it's slidding instead?
>>749401083Eustaces will never know. fucker eustace
genshin has a girl with a wind up key it wins by default.
>>749396986GIVE USGENSHIN CLASSICNOW
>>749404109I wish to use crescent pike Xianling again!
>>749396986Genshin is a humongous game before it is a gacha.
>>749404109I feel like the only way we'd get a Genshin classic would be when the game's like 10 or 15 years old.Or maybe someone will just make a proper private server once Teyvat Chapter ends and it'll be TurtleWoW of Genshin.
>>749397294I'm yet to see gameplay of Uma Musime that isn't just interacting with menus.
>>749401083I've always assumed the joke is fans are willing to do anything for their idols, including eating their feces. Why they chose this nobody to make such a joke, I have no idea. Very mediocre band too.
>>749404583Meant for >>749397274
>>749404583It's not just menus you can also watch the horsegirls race (no inputs) and the one who pulled the best character wins so most players skip races anyway
I tried all the big 3 Hoyo games on my phone and somehow Genshin was the only one I stuck with for some reason.ZZZ was the one I stopped playing the fastest after only a week.
unless they do something like kill modding and then only run dudes for like a year I don't see what would make people drop itmaybe a narrative change in a couple of years?
>>749405638>maybe a narrative change in a couple of years?We're getting a time travel arc after 7.3 bro
>>749406075give me playable Focalors and Makoto and I will accept it.
>>749405638modding is what brought me back to genshin in 2022 and is the only thing that keeps me playing.
>>749406129Only reason the time travel arc happens because Paimon apparently sacrifices herself to stop Celestia's plan but it's not a good ending so we go back in time for a few patches until we save PaimonAt first these story leaks seemed like bullshit but the 7.2 beta has basically confirmed it to be true (It was from before 7.0 even released)
>>749406252>Ronova taking paimon would've saved her because she wouldn't have drank pierro's kool aid and died for itwell well well
>>749406312
If we do get a Khaenri'ah arc, I hope it isnt all underground. That would be a depressing year.
Redditzoruo
>>749397274it had its chance but normalfags already forgot about it
Is there a game like Genshin, but not chinese? I'd even take Korean at this point.>inb4 BotWI mean a gacha with heavy action and exploration elements.
>>749396986Any real game already "dethrones" a daily chore simulator by default. Genshit can stay "the number 1 daily chore simulator in the world" for all I care.
>>749410447
Please talk me out of reinstalling.I spent so much on the game and regret it. i got up to natlan and dropped it cause it was awful.everything before that was fine
>>749410884Natlan is the lowest point in the game.
>>749410906after inazuma and liyue
>>749410906>>749411030i'm serious i spent thousands on the game, i even had a 50cv artifact along with multiple 40cv ones, but dropped it cause i spent so much time and money on the game.
>>749410447>>749410634
>>749411085well what do you want us to say? the story is considerably better in nodkrai and snez, but the meta shifted towards new reaction gimmicks like lunar and stellar where you need characters from those regions to activate them (or traveler)some old characters also got buffed to stay somewhat relevant with these new reactionsyou can still catch the anniversary rewards but the free limited character requires you to finish snez AQ
>>749411085if you can't control your spending you seriously need to uninstall it.
>>749410884>>749411085Just don't anon.>I spent so much on the game and regret it.So you want to spend even more time on it and have even more regret? Just don't.Wack to the porn if you have to, but don't actually touch this crap ever again.
>>749403561you can clear the story with starter characters, only endgame needs new characters
>>749410884>>749411085Oh no you're telling me that the "genre" that's designed from the ground up to make (You) open your wallet actually made you open your wallet?And after finally having rid yourself of this cancer your plan is to willingly go back to it?
>>749399190Not a gacha.
>>749396986I don't think it happens until Genshin goes into maintenence mode.
>gacha thread>no gacha girl feet
>>749411578You should've just asked
went back and finally finished nod krai
>>749412095please keep going
>>749411578
>feetposting starts>thread diesmany such cases
So, is it worth rolling for Vesna?
>>749416664i rolled>she's a hebe>next 2 banners are skips
>>749401721Putting the issue of powercreep aside, I really dislike how WuWa treats its characters.Whenever their at most few patches of relevance in the story are over they are forgotten entirely. They never appear in the many boring events, they don't get buffed and rarely get characters that temporarily wheelchair them back into relevance like is common in the hoyo games.They excel in character designs and often do a better job than they hoyo does, but it all just goes to waste. If only they did something like the character anecdotes thing in genshin where you just can meet older characters in the world randomly.>Camellya was my favMy nigger. Gigabased taste
>>749397881Not per se
Skip button status?
>>749416664I rolled because she's funny
>>749397940nahh FGO is 7 Billion but Genshin is 10 Billion
>>749398394WW competition is ZZZ they aren't anywhere near Genshin's shadow.
>what turd its the best amongst this pile of shit
>>749419145ARREST ME MA'AM
>>749397112I think overanimation of the skill select and inventory screens is fucking retarded. Persona 5 was a mistake
Like everything else about china, genshin's popularity is a lie. Nobody plays that shit since covid ended.
>>749419847cope
>>749396986oh lord i'mma goom
>>749397274Thats not even a video game, there is no gameplay its just another vertical phone spreadsheet number increasing simulator
>>749411365I like Arlecchino and Vesna, thank you very much
>>749397940FGO at this point is a money laundering schemeSupposedly da biggest gacha evar but no one ever talks about it anywhere where gacha is discussed.
>>749405638God I love big titties
I rolled in the banner of a 5* I didn't want, got that 5*, and now I'm mad.How could this be happening to me!?
>>749406215Same but the story put me off eventually
>>749410884I got back in on the anniversary and I've been pleasantly surprised with Nod-Krai and Sneediya looks cool too, stopped doing the MQ in Sumeru so being able to skip right into it was a big plus. Also stop wasting money on gacha you moron.
>>749410884If you're going to uninstall after one low point then you're not cut out for a live service game.
Reinstalled, I stopped playing before natlan came out having finished everything in Fontaine.Doing the space palace now bretty cool so far. There’s so much shit to do already honestly I can’t even imagine new players getting into this, genshin is massive at this point.
>Robin and Kafka coming to ZZZcan we get some genshin girls in glorious HD?
Still no skip button btw
>>749424172she would be perfect if she didn't talk about ningguang every time
>>749427182goodthey let you skip to and quick start the latest archon quest anyway, theres no need for anything more.
>>749427212Ningguang is pretty great tho
>>749427212why aren't YOU talking about ningguang?
is there a way to make music play on shuffle in teapot?
>>749396986Please play Sword of Convallaria.Current contenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOksOahf6oOld contenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UBDfszxzHUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_H8S3eLF4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxuLL8bVpO0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNTF7zQcGdghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1K3knaRcMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akYHlVTTGsE
>>749418229yeah xiangling is used in events to this day
>>749401721Never trust Pyrdwen, it's a useless site for every gacha game out there much like game8 and the guy running the WuWa list in particular has no idea how to play the game well to the point that he just shoves any new character to T0 just because they're shilled for that patch's endgame content. Jihnsi (The third one on that list) is now meta again due to Hsin. Cammelya (1) is still decent in both the Tower of Adversity (Spiral Abyss) and still does high damage in the Simulation Matrix (Stygian Onslaught) enough to deal considerable damage to a boss. The only actual useless characters on that list are Encore (2), Lingyang (4), and Yinlin (8). The rest can easily be used on the lower floors of the Tower of Adversity or even on the final floors of the ToA, they just can't deal with the super meta floors.>>749403691New players get her from the beginner banner and they just had a rerun banner one or two patches ago with her in it. Mornye has been the main meta healer since 3.0 and we're getting what is probably a new meta healer in 4.0 with Lily I think it was. Shorekeeper also isn't some end-all be-all situation here, her main purpose is to just buff damage which Verina, a standard character, can suffice for via the turtle + healing set that requires her to be on field for a grand total of 2 seconds.>>749418229>Whenever their at most few patches of relevance in the story are over they are forgotten entirely.They've been listening to those complaints as we saw Mortefi and Baizhi in Mengzhou with both having standalone quests, Danjin had an entire story quest for her in Mengzhou, Carlotta contacted you in either Mengzhou or Lahai-Roi, Yangyang is a main charcter in Mengzhou, and ever since they did their Avengers moment in Septimont they've realized they need to keep contact with the people more often because that was a big complaint during all of Rinascita which led to Lahai-Roi having a bunch of people constantly popping up except Chisa (Optional).
>>749427587ok i need context of the lingerie
Man, when is Silver Palace and Azur Pomelia releasing? I want to drop Endfield already.
>>749432382>Azur Pomeliafeels like i heard that name years agoit's not out yet?
>>749432462Nope, sounds like it will release before Silver Palace though?
>>749416664Vodyanitsa is objectively better overall as she works in more use cases even if Vesna is such a better character it's insane how much better she is to interact with. Vesna is on par with Mizuki if you have her at C2 which most older players can either scrounge up or get close to. If you have Mizuki you're pulling her for her exploration and character more than anything.Mitya and Door are next patch and Mitya doesn't really seem that good, particularly since Danica will also be Electro and likely fill the sub-DPS role he seems to be doing, so it's really up to you what you want to do.
>>749398394.
>>749434290>e33 won everything it was nominated for except the botting categoryi'll forgive the jeets this time since they made normalfags realize that show is garbage
>>749410884>he spentlollmao
>>749427212if ningguang was my wife id talk about her all the time too
>>749396986You literally cant do this in-game by the way, the game has a dumbass blur filter if you try and look up the girl's skirts.
>>749436105iirc you can, literally the only place tho
>>749436105that happens when camera gets too close to the characterlooking from below if you're far enough like in op is still possible even without modding
>>749434534You mean E33 lost the only category that isn't decided by paid journalists and corporates.
>>749436250many other places (everywhere with a slope basically) but that spot was popularized in 1.0 when people discovered it and remained the designated walk spot for showing off butts
>>749396986>>749397112>>749401721>>749403561>>749404061>>749404963they love me only and have sex with me only and they especially love it because i won't play their games like weak gay nerds do!
>>749434534How inept can you be to not even spread the boting over two days? Not like they where doing it manually to begin with.
>>749437434i assume that service costs more or maybe the indian bots don't know/care about hiding it
Anastasya>Boo hoo, I neglected my subjects!>Go out and meet with them? That's beneath me!>Here Traveler, go and have them make paintings of me so they can gaze at my noble visage while I sit on my throne!Ei>Boo hoo, I neglected my subjects!>Hey, you! Let's play Genius Invokation TCG!
>>749396986Genshin 2
>>749396986You probably don't want to hear this, but Pokemon TCG Pocket dethroned Genshin the day it released. The Sensor Tower Discordtrannies *STILL* do not include Pokemon TCG Pocket's "Combined" revenue, only its "Global" revenue, because including JP and CN would put it in the #1 spot every single month, and the Discordtrannies are Homoverse trannies, and they cannot have their precious Gayshit be dethroned like that.
>>749438782Uhhh... Genshinkeks, our response???
>>749438975Who fucking cares?
>>749438782weird how theres games like this that are seemingly huge global hits with mega millions every month but you never hear a word about anyone who plays it
>>749439541because the ones that play it aren't human
>>749439541Well first off, it's Pokemon. It's the highest grossing media franchise of all time. It has generated MORE THAN DOUBLE the revenue of the #2 spot. I think it's mostly played by people who are normie-adjacent and they just use it to open up packs of cards and play a few games of Pokemon every once in a while.Second, ever since Gayshit, modern gacha has turned into some mindbroken brown schizophrenic shitpost den. If you go to any gacha thread, some schizo has been shitposting spamming the thread for the past 12 hours with the most inane shitposts you've ever seen in your entire life. Even the popular gacha that get "tons of discussion" really just have 1 or 2 brown schizos shitposting on cooldown for 12-16 hours of every single day of their life, there's not actual game discussion. Third, there are a bunch of content creators on YouTube for it, either opening packs or playing decks, with videos that consistently get tens-hundreds of thousands of views, so the audience definitely exists. Regardless, the reason it *STILL* only shows the "Global" revenue on Sensor Tower shitpost charts rather than the "COMBINED" revenue is because the combined revenue would make it so that it's #1 every month, and the Sensor Tower shitpost chart is created and maintained by a cabal of Homoverse Discordtrannies.
>>749439541Clash of Clans players aren't human. I refuse to believe they exist.
>749440280>Second, ever since Gayshit, modern gacha has turned into some mindbroken brown schizophrenic shitpost den. If you go to any gacha thread, some schizo has been shitposting spamming the thread for the past 12 hours with the most inane shitposts you've ever seen in your entire life. Even the popular gacha that get "tons of discussion" really just have 1 or 2 brown schizos shitposting on cooldown for 12-16 hours of every single day of their life, there's not actual game discussionThat's you, bro.
Grand Theft Auto 6
>>749441654No, that's every single gacha thread. The ubiquity of schizos inhabiting every single thread now is something that I believe stems from gacha schizos.
>>749441729that only happens in dry patches with no content, at least in genshin and zzz, the ones i playgenshin however has the luxury of having huge lore so discussion sometimes goes towards theory craftingnta
>>749442179No, I'm describing all gacha threads.
Porkrinde: I'm sorry for being worse than:>Varesa, my greatest overlord who can deal more damage than my entire rotation with a single ass plunge.>Ineffa, who has 10 times more teams than me and has 10 times more usage rate.>Raiden Shogun, who is still better than me even at c0.>Kiryl Chudomirovich Flins, who mogs me in every single aspect.>Valeriy, who is a better soldier than I will ever be.>The Princessin Fischl (Amy), who can apply more electro than me despite that being my main thing.>Ororon, who would still be a better unit than me even at lvl 0 simply because Scroll is more valuable than my entire kit.>KeKING, my biggest rival who is not only much less clunky than me but also much stronger than me once you get her to c6 for free.>Dori, who has more dialogue in a single encounter than i ever had in my entire existence.>Sethos, who is more relevant and more talked about than me just because he's a shitpost tool.>Razor, who appears multiple times in anecdotes while i haven't had a single one.>Lisa, who is leagues sexier than me with my censored design.>Sara, who somehow has more event appearances than me despite being one of the most forgotten characters.>Iansan the hero of Power, who is more meta than my c6 at c0.>Captain Beidou, who has a much more popular yuri ship than me.>Mitya's scarf, who has more personality than me despite being an object.>General Mahamatra Cyno, who is a real left hand for his Archon, unlike me who never did anything for Furina or Neuvillette even though it's literally my job.>Kuki Shinobu, who can deal more damage than me burst with a single hyperboom.>Yae Miko, whose EEEQEEE deals more damage and feels much less clunky than my QEENANANAENANANAENANANA.>Hunter Alyosha, whose C0 is more valuable than my entire 26 cost team just by being Sandrone's 9th best option.
>>749443310delete that
>>749443310>Raiden Shogun, who is still better than me even at c0.That's not even close to true. She deals Fish damage at this point at best. Cookie deals more than Raiden in most instances.
>>749443310WTF i am now horny?
>>749396986>1 gacha in the worldYou mean in china
what are the chances of kokomi buffs
>>749444243about as high as her crit rate %
>>749444243You WILL roll for the newest slop character we shit out and you WILL be happy.
>>749444707But I already rolled the mermaid for my skirk
>>749444790>skirkThe SLOPPIEST of SLOP
>>749410884You really want to go back to doing Daily Chores and event slop? That's why i stopped playing, it became a second job
>>749444450She's getting nerfed into the ground...
I am kind of mixedYou see much less gacha in the otaku sphere but a lot more vtubers
>>749445214meanwhile doujin is beyond dead at this point
>>749427182The Nod-krai story felt a lot shorter than the Natlan one.
>>749445869There used to be amazing new doujins to fap to all the time, but now...
genshin 2
>>749443310this post convinced me to get chiori from the selector
>>749445869I only care about Touhou and original kemono art anyways
>>749446072I picked Nillou for potential c2
>>749446225dendro is dead dude
can you fuckers post cute girls already?
i give up on other gachas, i tried honkai, i tried endfield, i tried aniimo, they all flopped. im just going to play genshin now like everyone else but i have to catch up for 6 years or so
>still no skip button
>>749447006read nigga
>>749404489>huge spaces of nothing but a pack of mobs and a chest...
>>749447610
>>749445869>its mostly vtumors and gacha that fill the dojin marketvtumors need to fucking die, worst trend to come out of Japan
>>749396986If I know my 30 years of gaming, the next big thing is always a surprise. It will be something no one expects.
>>749447818Sorry she didn't acknowledge your donation bro, maybe next time
>>749447610A boss rush Granblue or ZZZ style game might be more your speed if an open world to explore isn't your thing.
>>749396986holy fucking koikatsu party quality nothing videois this what chinks and children jack off to? fucking horrendous state of affairs
>>749443310But I just finished building her...
I'm glad they introduced a fun fishe character.Now they just need to keep pretending that lizard abomination doesn't exist.
>>749448694>fun fish character>drowns in water
>>749446852>I tired trash, trash and trash>and now I'm going to play trashTakes the Limbus or Umamusume pill.
>>749427182that's 6 years of content, what's the problem
Genshin glazers, what exactly is it about Genshin that makes you believe it's an amazing game? Is it the story? The writing? The game mechanics? The community? The collabs? The free giveaways? It took them 6 years to give you all a free character, isn't that right? And still no skip button.
should I just play zzz if I want to coom to mihoyoslop
>>749449391You don't need the game itself to coom
>>749449469
>>749446538>dendro is dead dudeSecond half of Snez is purported to be dendro+cryo meta and all the new dendro supports will be dudes.
>>749449386I know this is a crazy concept to a gacha player but I only played gachas that are in genres I like. I like open-world games a lot.
>>749449386It's the exploration. Every other answer is cope or delusions.
>>749446852>but i have to catch up for 6 years or soit's a single player game
>>749449386>>749449469>>749449521kek he's warming up his wuwa post
>>749449386Even if nowadays there are similar games, the scale for a free game is something else. I wouldn't really use the word "amazing" because I find the game is too flawed, but it does have its moments.I also think people don't get how important the social part of the game is. Playing an offline version of the game with all the content simply isn't going to be the same as playing it as a live service, for better and for worse.
>>749449386Same reason why wan piss fags continue to read it despite the masive drop in quality and Oda revealing himself to be a hack, sunk cost fallacy
>>749448968>recommending him to play two of the most overrated gachas everYou uma & limbusfaggots are a compelete fucking plague
>>749446852Don't bother, Despite what the shills here say, Genshin is one of the worst gachas to play if you're only now getting into it
>>749450657>the gacha with the most content is the worst one to get into because....???
How come Ronovafags are more civilized than seething Caitano homos?
>>749450781Because Ronovafags are still coping about her coming backGive it a couple of months and they'll start becoming bitter as well
>>749450865the writing was retarded this patch and the fight was rushed and underwhelming
>>749396986It has been dethroned long ago and now it's only better than HSR now
>>749449982>I also think people don't get how important the social part of the game is.I think I actually enjoyed Genshin more when I didn't engage with this part of it and I didn't play it as regularly.
>>749451031I find it funny how many people are coping about Ronova when the game goes out of it's way to make Ronova seem like literally satan just like with Dottore
>>749398394Wuwa is a discount bin game compared to hoyo
>>749451083Satan wouldn't lend his powers to help mortals defend a whole country from hellspawn though.
>>749449386>what exactly is it about Genshin that makes you believe it's an amazing game?Tons of things>Art style is wonderful.>Extremely gorgeous and colorful vistas.>Interesting World Quests that usually end on a satisfying outcome be it either sad or a change to the world.>The world in general is satisfying to explore and sometimes even just wander around despite having 100%ed every map simply to take in how pretty it is.>The elemental system is fun to plan around using and it's fun to enable these interactions as you play through enemies or your own attacks.>Music is phenomenal across the board.>Enemies have varied and unique movesets, both with roll catches and completely reasonable delays and expects you to learn them.>Doesn't require me to constantly keep rolling for characters if I don't want to as the main story can to this day still be beaten with characters you got in 1.0 it'll just take a bit longer. Rolling characters is solely for wanting them or if you're someone who wants to keep up with endgame content which the game never pressures you on.>Has already given me at least 1500 hours of enjoyment if not more.>Is it the story? Story is fine. It's a bit wordy at times and some of the Story Quests can be a bit too long but overall it's enjoyable, and as we've reached Nod-Krai it's started to actually focus on stuff they've spent years establishing to finally give us reveals and explanations we wanted.>And still no skip button.Who cares? If this is a dealbreaker for you you wouldn't have liked the game anyway as the story builds upon the world and vice-versa. You would also miss countless wonderful things like the Aranara, Narzissenkreuz, and Jeht if you were allowed this because your ass would just skip it all to get access to the new areas and that's the end of that. A skip button offers nothing and only panders to a vocal minority.
>one of your coworkers left to travel the world with the abyss sibling>one of your coworkers is too lazy to show up or in the process of betraying you>one of your coworkers you have a deal with is currently betraying and having tea>the one nation you went out of your way to help to the point you got a talking to from HR is now saying you're an asshole and didn't need your help actually>one powerful foreigner is upset at you because you want to take back your kidnapped family member
zzz is the most SOVLful gacha
>>749451378>Who cares? Everyone? Why do you think it's been the single most requested feature in the entire game's history for over 6 years?The recent anniversary web-event has shown that only 2% of total players have completed the Nod-Krai AQ line. TWO PERCENT OF ALL PLAYERS, a lot of people would probably start bothering doing AQs if they weren't padded to hell and back with bloated wordy dialogue.
Ronova has awesome tits
>>749451884>Why do you think it's been the single most requested feature in the entire game's history for over 6 years?proof?
>>749451963thanks god this gacha has a lot of fanart because the in game models are horrendous
If Pokemon-Genshin cannot beat Genshin (signs point to this being the case, it seems successful enough but not topping charts), nothing will. Social outcasts in China, Japan, SEA and America will all have to stop having money and crash all gacha for that shit to die.
>>749449386the story is pure dogshit so i dont give a single damn about it, and dont believe people who said otherwise - they like genshin story because one thing is referencing the other thing in real life or other media and not the story itself. That being said, i love the art style, exploration, the world, endgame challenges, and also musik lets not forget about the musik
>>749451884>The recent anniversary web-event has shown that only 2% of total players have completed the Nod-Krai AQ line.Yes, because it's the seventh major region of a game with a story that is several hundred hours long and nearly a hundred hours to even reach it. No one is going to skip years of story just to get to a point in the story where they don't know what's happened, don't know the characters, don't have any context, and don't care about what's being spoken. They'd be completely lost.The exact same numbers you're trying to present as some mystically low number happen in pretty much all retail games which you can see through achievement lists. You understand that even in short 20 hour 100%able games with low amounts of dialogue completion rates for just the story, not even 100%, can be like 5% of all players? 10-20% for the more popular stuff? Here's RDR2, one of the most popular games in the world, and that's just getting to the end of Arthur's story which takes like maybe 15-30 hours even if you're not booking it assuming you only want to do the story. Go to the end of the epilogue and it's down to 24.4% which is only an extra two hours or so. 2% of players is a completely normal number to see.
749452256>2% completion rate is the same as almost 30% completion rateThere is literally no point in arguing over someone so incredibly disingenuous (Especially when they're a tripfag)
>>749449386Absolutely none of that, I think its exploration setpieces are better than the other games and that's all. I'm here for the landporn. It is the sole thing that I believe is being made with passion still.
>>749452403This, it's a screenshot gameI dropped it in Nod Kek last January and would reinstall it just to take screenshots if I didn't have to suffer through the story.
>>749452382Especially with a game like RDR2 where most people will literally spend hundreds of hours just fucking around because the world is so detailed
>>749398394Wuwa is crap lolLiterally only browns and thirdies play that shit lmao
>>749452587>Literally only browns and thirdies play that shit lmaoThis applies to every single gacha game including Genshin
>>749450408I'm recommending him to play actual good gachas, you fucking mihoyonigger.
>>749452660>Limbus>Umamusume>good gachasDehyaposters for some reason always have the worst tastes possible
>>749452478rdr2 doesn't have people starting dozens of accounts to roll until they get what they want
>>749451031>Let's talk in public about our secret plans>Suddenly RonovaShe didn't even have a cool entrance this time.
>limbus>uma>play
I'm sorry you chinks can't handle the cold hard truth.
>>749452764I loved that moment>HEARD YOU TALKING SHIT
Dehyagods are often misunderstood.It should be mandatory to filter tripfags, though.
>>749452726>>749452819
>>749452382>DisingenuousI have no idea how you can't grasp that the point is that completion rates go heavily down as the game goes on for longer and even a game with a huge amount of sales and at least 1/8th of the content of Genshin already drops as low as 24.4% for the end of its game which, keep in mind, a full 100% run is only like 150ish hours unless you truly dick around and use Arthur in New Mexico exploits and that's 0.4%.Guardians of the Galaxy on PS4, a 15 hour game, has a 24.2% completion rate for the final boss.Ghostwire Tokyo on PS5, a 12ish hour open world game if we're being generous, has a 16.3% completion rate with the 100% being 4.2%.Hogwarts Legacy, a 20ish hour open world game, has a 27.1% completion rate for beating the final boss but getting the actual ending which only takes like another maybe two hours of side quests with Sebastian and like two other major NPCs, sees the completion rate drop to 15.8%.At least understand what the argument is at all because you're acting like 2% is some mystical gotcha when it's just a normal figure for how long of a game this is. ZZZ, a game where sipping is allowed, has only 3.5% of people on PS5 having done this patch's main story AND you can skip to 3.2's story on top of it. Wuthering Waves which I don't believe lets you skip to modern content and has a skip button has only had 2.8% of people do this patch's main story.
>>749452764>our new experimental anti-celestia weapon we finished 5 minutes ago?>yeah it's never been tested in battle and takes a ton out of the user>RONOVA>RONOVA>RONOVA>RONOVA>one final RONOVA drops him to his knees>is standing around talking to everyone a minute laterok
>>749453124whats it gonna do, kill the man cursed with immortality? lmao
>>749450704Literally just answered your own question dumbass.There's a lot to do, but unless you swipe, get lucky, or put multiple days worth of time into exploring, you'll never get any of the characters you want.>B-But A-All the free primos from exploringYeah there's a lot, but what all you disingenuous faggots never tell people is that the rate that you'll be getting them is so slow that by the time a character that you want drops, you won't get them unless you did anything that I just stated (have fun getting 2 primos from exquisite chests until you reach Sumeru)You'll miss out on limited events, which means missing out on pulls.You could quick start the later regions, but that means ruining the story for yourself.You can't even do shit like theater because you won't have enough characters to do even the easiest mode.Unless you plan on spending money, you'll never catch up with older players and your roster will always be emptier, meaning less options to work with.Now for the story. There's so much lore related shit locked behind fomo to the point to where unless you do your homework and spend hours upon hours on youtube, your understanding of the lore will never be complete. And if you don't care about the story, then you really shouldn't be playing this shit because Genshin doesn't respect your time and let people that only care about gameplay skip it.And all that "qol" shit that they added later, they never went back to implement those for the early game/questsYou have to do so much research beforehand to make sure you're playing it in the right order and to make sure you don't fuck yourself over.Say you picked Mizuki as you standard character, have fun either A) watching her fall off fast, or B) rushing to Inazuma and Natlan to get all of her shit
>>749453213>AHHH I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO GET THINGS
>>749453213You can get 20-30 pulls a day pretty easily, especially when you're starting out and you haven't explored much.
>>749453213>you won't get the characters you want unless you.. play the game and exploreYOU CANT MAKE ME PLAY VIDEO GAMES AAAAAA
>>749396986genshin has problems like no skip button or mc switch, but the real problem is this:>606 days since the last ganyu re-run>543 days since the last xiangyun re-run>480 days since the last kokomi re-run>459 days since the last shenhe re-run>207 days since the last eula re-runabsolute insane, new players are fucked if they want old limited characters.
Good.Hopefully they don't put Kokomi in any future events.Total Kokomi Death.
wuwa already dethroned itno, revenue is not an argument
>>749453409You WILL roll for the souless meta SLOP and you WILL like it.
>>749453213honestly just thinking about replaying the game from the start has me shivering with discomfort, I truly think I'd rather work at a factory for free for two weeks than do it all again. I wouldn't wish it on anyone either, it's risky but if I couldn't get my account back and absolutely wanted to play genkek again I'd just buy an account already in endgame
>>749453409The game is getting to the point of needing a 3rd banner, theres too many characters. Imagine how nice it must've been at launch with barely any 5 stars and you could see them multiple times a year.
>>749453316>>749453365So are you shills being disingenuous on purpose or is it natural?
>>749453409does this include the regional banners
>>749453563I'm not sure what to say anon, the game gives you tons of currency and you don't have to spend a dime to play it. But if you like the dopamine rush from swiping they do give you the option to pull up to 6 duplicates of a character for maximum power
>>749453698Not him but those seem to run like twice a year when they should just be continuous, it's weird.
>>749453213>You have to do so much research beforehand to make sure you're playing it in the right order and to make sure you don't fuck yourself over.You don't. This isn't ZZZ where the in-game guide is literally wrong and unlocks event quests before you ever even met some characters in the main story or when they actually happened in terms of release order let alone needing to know that Sanby, Lycaon, Soldier 11, and Trigger are all more or less mandatory before doing the season 1 epilogue or it makes no sense.The most you have to do is figure out when the Chasm, Chenyue Vale, and Dornman Port released and even then the latter two can be ignored as they have no main story ties to anything important outside of some backstory events of certain locations. Even the Chasm is mostly inconsequential until this patch where you see the tear in the sky. Everything else can be done without being spoiled or in the order you actually pass through the areas.>All the islands in Inazuma have their own localized stories and don't intersect.>The deserts don't even let you do World Quests out of order as Jeht is required to even access them.>The Aranara are their own story and they're essentially just a cameo in Nod-Krai so even without context it's just Kusanali asking some random forest creatures for help.>Fontaine mandates you do all the Narzissenkreuz stuff before other stuff from it allows you to do anything.>Natlan has everything tied to the Saurian and restricts you until you do content with him.>Nod-Krai's quests are all independent of each other.>Snezhnaya's quests are all independent of each other.>>749453523Realistically there should just be a permanent banner for older regions after a certain point. Non of this Chronicled Banner nonsense where it's time-limited. Permanent with its own pity with 75/25 rates instead of 50/50 due to many of them being power crept.
>>749453213Gachafags are a special breed huhhave you ever considered that some people care more about the gameplay than the gacha aspect?next you'll recommend a newfag to roll/get specific characters
>The trip troon is here
>>749453930Genshin literally makes you do quests with characters that we shouldn't even know at that point you retarded faggot
>>749454474What are you even talking about? Story quests? The ones you have to opt into? Just don't touch them until you meet the character in the main story because they're all either backstory or continuing on from the main story. Tribe quests literally do not unlock until you've met the characters in Natlan, the same applies to Construction Quests in Nod-Krai, and Meeting Points in Snezhnaya.The only thing I can think you can wander into it without having met anyone is The Chasm which has you knowing Xiao and only Xiao as Yelan is introduced within it.
Genshin Impact has some of the best video game stories of all time.
>>749455818>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>free
>>749455818>Genshin story>goodGenuinely no one actually thinks like that, right?
>>749397112This shit is never coming out
>>749456025It's literally just casuals & mega fans who think the story is goodI already fell for the "XIV has such a peak story bro" during Covid although maybe it's just my mistake expecting the average live-service player to have played more than 1-2 other games in their life time
>>749456172It's had several betas already and they released a global trailer the other day.
>>749396986Silver Palace if they comply with what is advertised.
almost 300 hours playing zzz and haven't spend a single dime on it. it has amazing art, animation, soundtrack, voice acting (jp dub), good gameplay. i kneel to our chinese developer overlords
>>749456025you'd be surprised, this game got very popular among normalfags who haven't played anything elseI've played through the entire story up to the last patch of natlan and it's really nothing special
>>749443310I almost rolled her but I chose the fat cow at the last minute.
>>749456734It's just so funny the shit normalfags sayI remember when Pokemon Scarlet Violet got released and all the Pokemon fans were going "This game has such a good story OMG!! Best story in Pokemon!!" It reminds me of that
>>749397940This
Why is this so popular? I tried playing it years ago, reached some part where you have to sneak into a library or something and just got bored. Felt like a lame BoTW with nothing to do.
>>749457051babby's first gacha that wont embarrass the shills' parents
>>749455851it is literally free>>749456025>>749456197>>749456734>>749456802it's also objectively good by anime game standardseven by general game standards, considering it's length, it's good. better than most for sure.
I honestly believe China has already surpassed Japan as far as anime games go. Newer Japanese anime games look so dated already
>>749457051it's the polar opposite of BOTW with nothing to do, it's BOTW with things to do
>>749457197>lookBut are they fun to play?
>>749457157nah pretty sure it's still bad from the anime game standard before and after 2020
>>749457051>Why is this so popular?It's a free BotW-esque game which was also super popular at the time it released. It also popped off during Covid which was basically the perfect time for games to get traction and it became the poster boy of gachas.The continued popularity is primarily because of the amount of content, it being free BotW on your phone, it doesn't really harass you to pay for pulls or anything like a lot of F2P games do and ads don't exist, it's visually nice, it has great music, and on phones it's pretty accessible even on low end-ones. My 5 or 6 year old phone now can still play it fairly well on medium.You also quit towards the tail end of Mondstadt which would been done fairly soon and moved to Liyue which itself is like this enormous scope increase in exploration once you get to it assuming you didn't head there straight away or go to Dragonspine which itself takes hours due to the freezing mechanic and still trying to level characters up and learn the game.
>>749457237I wish dude. I can't even play shit like Tales, Ys, or Trails and those are among the premium anime trash. I like watching anime but most anime games are just horrible story wise. Bad animations too.Genshin is vastly superior to all of them and it's not even close.
>>749457271All he'd have to do is get one singular limited character and Dragonspine & Inazuma become a complete jokeThe powercreep completely ruined any sort of difficulty / threats in the overworldAll he'd have to do is pick Dehya and the hp drain in Dragonspine stops existing
>>749457335played atelier/fire emblem/korean mmos games and they're still better than genshin's story and it's not even close. Also why does maplestory have a better story than genshin?
Did Mihoyo popularize the 'good animation and cinematography in anime games'? Before Genshin/ZZZ/etc most anime games had very bad character animation (see xenoblade trash), most still do to this day even though Mihoyo already showed them the way.
>>749457559I wish ZZZ had good animations outside of combat/cutscenes....
>>749457594>i wish zzz had good animations outside what makes 90% of the gameyou mean dialogue cutscenes that are also animated and aren't just pngs?
>>749457594Why do HSR/ZZZ have such shit story presentation compared to Wuwa & Genshin
>>749457559That would be Kojima games
>>749457694kojima games aren't anime games, they're just movie games
>>749457656Yeah, I don't have that one webm but it was showing how much of ZZZ's story was in those shitty VN sections where the characters barely animated
>>749457689ZZZ story is vastly superior to Genshin and Wuwa though
>>749457197I disagree. China has the visuals and animation quality down pat (Even excelling in terms of animation, WuWa's robots are orgasmic) but many games still have that "Chinese" feel around how they design tons of objects like WuWa's entire style for example is clearly heavily Chinese or they have many basic things in the game that have been ironed out by the matured western and Japanese markets that you still see in Korean game design for example.Gameplay is also very clearly not on par with Japanese games that do combat well, they are always focusing on some specific gimmick and heavily building the combat around that while making much of it feel weightless or trivial when you're in the midst of fighting enemies just so it can be very flashy.>Genshin has the element system but actually fighting feels like you're heavily abusing iframes and the actual feel of fighting an enemy is mostly like you're just causing explosionless-explosions.>WuWa has the Intro/Outro system but because of how it only uses three characters this puts it into this situation where your loadout is always DPS/Sub/Healer or Support and you're going through a specific choreographed dance to get everything set up for the main DPS unless you hate your life and learn quickswapping. Witch Time is also very prevalent once they realized no one parries anything due to how you have to keep your dance going.>ZZZ doesn't even know what it wants to be as it originally wanted you playing all three characters as individual ones before eventually pivoting to what it is now but with tons of parrying.>Where Winds Meet is just a parry fest until your enemy has their posture break and then you spam the kitchen sink of skills at them until you finisher and repeat. In the overworld it's instead just slowing time with the goose and then the kitchen sink.>Wukong is primarily spamming spells and using charged attacks or occasionally See Through attacks while everything you hit feels like a piece of paper
I'm tired of this whole genre of>NPC stops talking, makes you wait while he rotates in place, then resumes talkinggames. Aniimo is like this too.
>>749396986Youre a fat SEA monkey aint ya?
>>749457413>atelier>mmosYou haven't played Genshin or you're just shitposting.FE is alright though, at least the one I played.
Is ZZZ the first high budget game with canonically incestuous main characters?
>>749457897wouldnt mind it if the cutscene was skippable
>>749457936i played through fontaine and it was trash, sorry
>>749457849>but many games still have that "Chinese" feel Also applies for the charactersIt's a miracle for a Mihoyo / Wuwa design to be somewhat simple
>>749457950Animation so lazy that it wastes your time isn't a cutscene skip problem
If Fate ever makes a modern game these chink knock offs are dead.
>>749457791Nah dude, at least where I'm at now. Maybe in season 3 but so far 1.0 to 1.5 was fine albeit super padded at times for no reason like Astra Yao while also super rushed at times like the Outer Ring. 1.5 to 1.7 was all over the place in quality and pretending it introduced concepts it never did while also suddenly heavily turning Phaethon into Chosen Ones out of nowhere.The start of the Mockingbird storyline felt like the entire game changed in quality in a negative way because it went from fairly concise storylines that were maybe an hour or two long to 5+ hours and went from a fairly grounded premise of Phaethon being proxies who had some special technology others didn't because of their teacher to suddenly having magical eye implants that will eventually net them Pyrois and despite being the most wanted criminals in New Eridu everyone including the highest end of the government are BFFs with them even though they know they're said criminals.The padding is also out of this world at times, especially with you entering a Hollow to look for something and just missing it or being too late so many times. The Hobble event stories are a great example of something that could have been cut down by like 30 minutes and nothing would have been lost.WuWa only suffered in 1.0's content, as soon as you got to around chapter 3 it got noticeably better and then by Mt. Huanglong it was set. There's some padding like Augusta's backstory being forced on you with the cards or the Dredge event, but it is following up on stuff it set up from the start. They've also been taking criticisms or pushing characters to the wayside to heart since Septimont.Genshin's only issue is Inazuma. Inazuma is a pace and story ruiner as a region but that's primarily due to Covid lockdowns and Teppo's horrible horrible writing. The main stories have gotten too long and they've been shoving too many Story Quests into the main story though, I will agree.
>>749458267jp dev in charge of making a game with a budgetTheres so many IPs they could be making insane amounts of money with but are sitting on them doing nothing. A Fate clone of genshin would take that country by storm but that takes too much work
>>749458267fate is fucking gay though
>>749457689star rail story got hijacked by honkai impact 3 devszenless zone zero is a waifu game pretending to be an omnipandering game.
I played some of the genshin clones like wuwa, tower of fantasy, etc and they just feel off. they don't have that sauce mihoyo games have. wuwa in particular if you look at videos it kinda looks high budget but when you actually play it none of its elements feel very cohesive, gameplay is not as tight, the ui feels like an aftertought, it's kind of like the gacha version of black desert online. it's "pretty" if you look at it from afar. And with the release of ZZZ i've also been seeing a lot of gachas try to replicate that bouncy, cartoony character animation with very poor results, most of these non-hoyo developers just don't have the skills to copy these elements.
>>749457849I hope one day china actually learns how to make compelling gameplay, cause like you said they're pretty good with animations and visuals, but the combat in their games is always the most bare-minimum boring button mashers or parry/deflect spam. They should actually start looking at action combat games from the mid 2000s to the early 2010s. I genuinely believe they'll figure it out eventually.
>>749459091I think their main issue is the spectacle that they want paired with what they perceive as cool that no one else does. It's why when you see stuff like their exclusive Minecraft modpacks or overhauls they're the most garish nonsense you've ever seen with enemies that make no sense, armor sets ripped straight out of some generic MMO, or some legendary sword of the gods +50 with lightning coming out of the blade that blow up a map. It's why WWM's cosmetics are nearly all terrible because it's just flowing robes or huge effects flying around your character that make it hard to see anything just to show you've spent money.So you pair that with them approaching gameplay and now they have to make it look super flashy and have everyone with a million accessories or effects because otherwise they perceive it as more boring. Also white hair and garbage Obi-Wan-tier rat tails because in their novels it indicates you're learned and powerful. At least when women have the rat tails it just looks like a crappy ponytail but on dudes it ruins their design. Male Rover is an example of a design I think isn't cool at all but everyone there goes nuts about him.
>>749459017Tbf, those bouncy cutscenes that last under a minute happen after several hours of poorly animated story segmentsBoth HSR & ZZZ feel cheap compared to Genshin (Especially in story presentation which is why not a lot of people care about HSR & ZZZ stories)
>>749459316what poorly animated segments? genshin barely has cutscenes. zzz has an objectively more polished presentation and it makes sense it was released after genshin and when the developers had unlimited money
>>749459316I'd agree that presentation is the weaker point of zzz. However, the attention to silly details is astounding
>>749459305>It's why when you see stuff like their exclusive Minecraft modpacks or overhauls they're the most garish nonsense you've ever seen with enemies that make no sense, armor sets ripped straight out of some generic MMO, or some legendary sword of the gods +50 with lightning coming out of the blade that blow up a map.Kek, perfectly describes every single chinese rimworld mod.
>>749459425>genshin barely has cutscenesYou haven't played the game since Natlan then, the story presentation has improved massively and is pretty much on-par with Wuwa nowHSR & ZZZ just have the characters standing still maybe moving their arms into different positons every once in a while
>>749459437The animations are top quality but it's still just a small hub area that you can't really interact with so it makes sense they'd at least put some effort into smaller details like that
>>749459504Huh? Genshin literally does the same except they set their dialog scenes 'in-game', the characters still cycle through just a handful of reusable animations when talking
>>749459425>what poorly animated segments?nta, but maybe the vn segments where the models face the camera, or the white text on black background
>>749459570>>749459437
>>749459437For me it's the Hollow maps in general. I love wandering around them and just looking at the amount of detail they put into each one. The Port Elpis Hollow in particular is easily the best one that I've seen so far due to the detail of the port itself as was the Ballet Twins one with all the paintings and art exhibits. Then if you're at the ones outside and look at the sky you can see the octagons that make it up. Fairy's idle dialogue when accessing the missions was also something I didn't expect and got some chuckles out of me.
>>749459017this is why I never tried WW, I can just sense the unreal slop coming from it which I just don't likeI already tried that one JP game with the telekenesis and it gave me eye cancer
>>749459808the art scattered around kinda makes the world feel more vivid
>>749459804That's just artistic choice, the whole game has urban/comic vibes. There even are actual comic cutscenes.
>>749459847I've tried wuwa. The game is very pretty to look at and the world traversal is great since even the free chars can run, climb and glide on anything. I dropped it cause open world is not my jam and also cause I lost my first 50/50>>749460106I actually like the comix, just don't like the white text
>>749459847>I can just sense the unreal slop coming from it which I just don't likeIt's not that bad. It's got that feeling at times but it feels much more refined than you think it does. ToF is way way worse about it and Where Winds Meet is as Unreal Engine as you can get.
