Can anyone explain why using AI is bad? I see people on Reddit constantly bitch about it. What’s so wrong about using tools to make game development easier or is it luddite cope?
YWNBARC (you will never be a real cat)
bideo james?
Using it to support a project you care about is fine.But using it to shit out releases at machine-gun rate for internet cred while not giving a shit about whether it really works or not and never coming to fix it if it doesn’t is just filling the ether up with crap. And the more crap there is, the harder it is to notice what’s actualy worth your attention.
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>>7494487781. Luddites afraid of damage to their careers like the original Luddites.2. Leftists nuclear mad that AI frees people from one of their chief methods of coercing people into their stupid beliefs: their social groups won’t help you anymore if you disagree. AI gives tons of help, including help leftists are SHIT at (with making a new original series people actually like, for example)3. Lgbtq pissed that AI insulates people from their abuse techniques and process of perverting promising young creatives into drooling mentally ill porn artists who make rabidly hostile leftist games that are awful.Related factors to all, of course
>>749448778It'sA. Being used in stupid ways for corpos to try to pay people less and make shittier products without realizing longterm ramificationsB. Used by absolute morons who are fine putting out the lowest effort slop imaginable.If this shit had been phased in more slowly and wasn't a trillion billion dollar bubble of nonsense shit, it could have been so much better.
>>749448778luddite copementally ill leftist spergouts tooimagine being an "artist" thinking you'll make it one day and then someone using AI appears and instantly gets 1000x more followers than you and starts raking in a livable wage on patreon, and all of your friends hate AI so you can't use it or you will have no more friendsso you join them and seethe for the rest of your life
If you need AI to do it for you then I don't want your output because it is completely generic, like a google search, if you use AI to enhance your product I am still not interested because it's no longer unique but it is respectable.
It's called (AIDS) AI Derangement Syndrome
they just mad claude took everything over and they can't compete. I mean the guy is unstoppable.
Go back to reddlt, nigger.
>>749449406I love his art. So much (digital) soul
>>749448778A certain type of smug asshole pattern matched LLMs to crypto and NFTs in 2023 or 2024 and has steadfastly refused to update their position because admitting that the techbros finally made something that really worked would collapse their world.
>they are jealous of usIt's kinda funny that the meme fits so well, it's like it's the same people, it's not exsclusive, it's not prohibitive, it actually makes things easier for everyone, like fast food but you don't hear anyone saying everyone else is jealous of them for eating at McDonald's
>>749448778New invention isn't mastered yet. Everyone fucking whines about quality. Just give me what I know, yada yada.
>>749448778They are probably people who think of videogames as an artform which takes skill, mastery and effort and they are right if you were trying to make art but if you want to make a fun videogame who cares.
because AI does not "want" to make anything.it has nothing to say.
>>749449370here ftfy ranjeet
>>749449182>to try to pay people lessThis is the leftist lieIt's really fear that *I* will be paid less
>>749450760It's not about quality, it's about you doing it, the less input coming from you the less unique and impressive it is.I understood a long time ago, early 2000's there was some Pokémon drawing contest, I used a computer to draw a charizard and a blastoise and they looked quite good, it was just the outline, I still colored it by hand but I was disqualified, meanwhile my cousin sent some random ugly drawing and he got a participation medal and a mention in a radio show, I called to ask why I was disqualified and they simply responded "You had to do it, not the computer".
>>749451308wutthey're cutting jobs left in right across industries while heavily pushing AI in places it doesn't belong and shitting everythingthere's a certain amount of things that can and will be replaced by AI in the future, but big corpos don't care to phase things in, they're just fucking gunning for it, fucking around and finding out, and repeating the cycle
>>749449182>B. Used by absolute morons who are fine putting out the lowest effort slop imaginable.My slop fucks thohttps://files.catbox.moe/uv4tja.png
>>749448778They literally can't not think of anything. It's simple, really, they're threatened from it and lack the understanding of it to really know how its about.Take a look at anywhere, people always are getting being scared of the things they don't understanding. I even have an examples for you:the trannies>scared for AI because anyone can now say "I'm an game dev" or "I'm an artist" and become one instant>dont understand it because when the trannies say "I'm an woman" it doesnt come true :(the reddit artists>scared for AI because they claim on and on all about the processes of art, and how its their journey and not the destinations>they shouldnt worry then if its AI because AI just walks around a different journey, its still a creative process but they want to keep the map to themselfsthe whites>scared for H1B and immigrations because they're realized that maybe they got too comforting and didnt keep up with the modern age like other countries culturesits really simple, AI luddies and timmys are scared for what they dont understand at all. If they were even smart enough to understand it, they wouldnt be scared. Its so simple to me.
idk ai is awesome it let me slop up a cool theme for 4chan
>>749451649That is actually decent. Can I have it?
>>749451624>the whites>AI luddies and timmyThis post smells bad
>>749451624agreed. they want to have cake and eat it too with the gate kept. I get it now, I wont want to share any of my prompts but still, the luddie times is over.>>749451649Nice, are you making this available? Would use it all the time.
>>749448778you mean SI? Don't be a luddite tranny loser
AI is just a tool, it has limitations, look at all of those fast food places using AI for their recipes and marketing.Their shit looks bad, and it also all looks the same as every other place using the same AI model as them.So if you want to make dogshit that is indistinguishable from every other retards dogshit, go ahead I guess.
>>749451610I like the image you posted more for cunny reasons.
>>749451701>>749451794will post on /html-cssg/ on /wg/ once its done
>>749448778It's not bad yet. That comes when an AI is created to just hack shit and fuck everything up 24/7 and humanity is forced into LANs. Then the drones will come, and we'll be forced into earthscrapers and subaquatic cities.
>>749448778I have mixed feelings about AI usage. On one hand, AI can teach me better than my teachers and can generate an infinite amount of practice problems for me to do. On the other, if I’m watching an animation or see a drawing I would rather it be human made. Part of what makes art appealing is the fact there was a human behind it struggling to make the artwork look the way it does. People who claim AI is just a tool in this context disregard that the human effort is part of it
>>749451843I use it to upscale old art and pictures I have around, it's a crapshoot but sometimes it gives good results, I have to manually correct things most of the time (80% of the time)
>>749448778its become an idpol issue because the trannies are in a silent war with the jeets over it robbing them of the ability to monopolize what kind of art gets created and shared via bullying people on twitterfor the most part the consumer end uses for ai are completely retarded and not financially feasible to keep running for the foreseeable futureso i expect that shit to dry up eventually, enjoy it while you can
>>749451145>miss the point entirely and call the other guy a jeetLuddites are brainless NPCs with no argument.
>>749448778The real reason Reddit and co are upset with it is because this is the first time liberal white collar jobs are threatened and they are nervous about it. All the noise about Ai slop producing buggy ports or stupid images your grandma shares on Facebook is just pointless noise.
>>749451624This is the worst tranny false flag I have ever seen lmaoAI won
>>749451909Well then.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1791678966636301.mp4https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/150696214https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/150278285https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/149823577Have fun.And to those who don't know, in order to see all of pixiv, you need to have an account, and that account's location set to Japan.
>>749452280>nooo I can only draw you as the losing side and me on the winning side>why don't you draw me winning and being what I perceive a better personlolLove how a simple color change got you this mad
>>749452197Nah local ai will get more efficient with time like everything else
>>749451624based. >>749452280this. always with the pointing fingers and never to say why someone was wrong.notice how if they would of spent so much time looking for Indians on the internet, that if they spent that time learning how to improve and use AI trends, then maybe they would not be getting replaced? It's like how Vivek was saying the other week, how andi-AI people are too focused on home coming dances and prom queen, when other cultures are focused on following the trends and being the most capable at the future.
>>749452163That's using it as a tool to build upon something that exists.Saying to the AI "I want the super cool bestest video game ever with explosions and super cool gameplay and make me lots of money pls" is fucking stupid and wouldn't even work because human beings crave human experiences
>>749451790How fucking stupid are you you dont realize a false flag post?>>749452390>>nooo I can only draw you as the losing side and me on the winning sideThat wasn't the point of the comic, holy shit luddites ARE this retarded!Did you think it was just a "I AM SILLY!!11" comic or something.LOL
>>749448778People using AI are bad.
>>749452454I love how my existence makes you seethe with bloody rage.
>>749452453lol u mad
>>749452513I accept your concession. :)
>>749452546So angey
>>749452453>Do you thinklet me stop you right there, luddies dont bother to think. they go through their lifes with an illusion of feeling creativity. its why he couldn't even create his own comic, lack of willpower to make something.thats why there so threatened for AI becuase of how it lets anyone create more easily. Not everyone wants to go through the hair pulling out of my head stage for drawing a picture.
After what I've seen, I'm forced to believe now, that when the wheel was invented, there were people like this pretending it was useless.
>>749452595I won. :)
Fallout 4 finally has working novida physx debris now thanks to ai (also probably losts of humans effort), so it can even work on Radeon cards now, ai is a useful tool but I doubt anyone will have control over it and that's the way it should be
Evergreen image, coming through.Make way.
>>749452679lol look at this>>749452659
>>749452631shut up pedofile
>>749452659>literallyracists bigots are always jokes. your not any different from the redditors you say you hated.>>749452631based. and like the wheel, the AI train will keep moving forward, leaved the luddies in the stone age.
>>749452705>I have no argument!I won. :)
>>749448778Can you start the thread over without the loaded question?
>>749452735What was your argument I forgot
>>749452770see: >>749449370
>>749452504i love carmack would actually say that. same with tim "go on lad, decompile everything, in fact ue5 is open source with mcp, have one on me"
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>>749451610Everyone thinks their slop fucks. They wouldn't post it online if they didn't
>>749452793That's a comic tho
TOTAL LUDDITE DEATH
>>749452730Redditors think that you can't be racist towards white people, because of privilege or something.I think that you can't be racist towards jeets, because they're not people. Know the difference.
>>749452845>I have to make everyone else look badThere's nothing below you
The severe luddism is the >If AI exists in any capacity I refuse to use it, I refuse to accept it, I will shame and harass anyone for using it.An LLM is like a search engine or google at this point, so imagine someone kvetching about search engines. >But LLMs hallucinate and get stuff wrongSearch engines are full of bullshit, reddit or quora results get stuff wrong. The failure point is a retard accepting what an LLM says without gospel, same as back in the day wikipedia was used by students without checking citation.Completely fair to hate it for letting laypersons spam cheap slop, grifters spam get rich quick AI ripoff, all the other trash of it. If I could snap my fingers and have a world with no LLM/AI sloppa I would, but as I cannot I will use it find resources, to troubleshoot issues if I can't google it, and to generate 3d/cgi photorealistic pictures of anime or video game women with big tits flustered in slingshot bikinis and high heels.
>>749452813Sure but. As with all things involving confidence, some of us are right.
>>749452825>can't read and understand the point made in basic illustration you lost tranny
>>749452804he literally said that and it was hilarious when some retard tried to argue with him about it
>>749449583You forgot the part where McDonald's fucking sucks
>>749452902>namecallingOof so butt frustrated
>>749452504I don't know what you do, and i know that there are people that use AI in a form that gets cool shit done.But 99% of the AI users could just fuck off.
>>749452959Yeah that was the point, no one is jealous of anyone eating at McDonald's, you can just go and ask for a Quarter Pounder and it will be the exact same bread, "meat", cheese and fries the other guy got, designed for consistency and ease of use.
>>749452884ever noticed how the luddies react the same to AI as atheists react to religions?
I can't even ask an AI if this thread should kill themselves because the answer would be censored.Just goes to show this is a cuck technology.
>>749452960>luddite cannot readlol
A)It will allow for the mass creation of extremely low effort slop, with people who barely know what they are doing (if at all) and it will flood the marketB))Luddite cope from people who see their main source of income or social validation being overtaken by AIC)No one likes freedom, and AI grants freedom to everyone, so it needs to be heckin stopped
>>749453105Joke's on you, I asked my phone's AI to read it for me
>>749452941Bibidi.Bobidi.Based.
AI makes you faster, not better.If you're trash, you're doing trash faster.But it accelerates your everything, including getting better, but you do need to get better.
>>749448778because all throughout history making things easier to do has not made those things better it has made those things worse and cheaper.if a process exists that can only be completed by a master craftsman then the resulting product has at least had a master craftsman's autism pouring over each detail.if you let morons make stuff then the results will be moron products, which we're seeing a lot of now where someone vibes a thing and abandons it a week later cause they didn't realize software need maintenance.
>>749453278Who asked?
>>749448778Have you tried thinking critically?
>>749453278unless you already have a solid starting point and are willing to dedicate a LOT of time, you will not advance as fast as the models will.
>>749448778Using AI is bad because it just is.
>>749453307OP
>>749453278There's a shorter way to put this."It's like Earthbound, where it insta-finishes encounters you couldn't possibly lose."
>>749452902uh oh aichads what's this????
>>749452902>heh, the box i've put you in looks like THIS!this shit is so gay dude.
>>749453353Life let me down one too many times and in too big of a way. I renounce/reject the progression of things, I prefer to live my life at the speed which is familiar to me.I will never stop you pursuing whatever it is you want to pursue, but I will actively remove that stuff from my life.
>>749448778The troons who are pretending to be different genders are unironically telling people whether if you're a real artist or not.
>>749453345Even if your AI is kyubey and can grant any wish, if your wish is shit, it will be a shit result.
>>749453502I wish, for a really dope wish to be granted.
>>749452941Man. This should be a mandatory post in response to every one of these threads.
>>749453048100% of people like you could fuck off too buddy
>>749453502Even now the AIs are actually quite good at sussing out what you actually want versus what you asked for, they are not monkey paws. You jsut have to make it clear that you want that kind of inference work because by default it will fulfill the letter but not the spirit because it doesn't care either way. But it can tell.
>>749453404Because white people are more likely to be trannies and leftists
I miss early AI
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>>749452941people seriously listen to the fortnite guy?
>>749453441>still doesn't understand the point of the comicgoddamn luddites are actually this brain dead
I jerked off to AI a couple of times. Less than say 10. Mayhaps 15. At this point AI does not excite me in the slightest because I know all its tricks, compared to the myriad of actual people whose content I've used and will use in the time to come (tomorrow).This is how I know AI fucking sucks.
>>749453252>>749453587Carmack has been pretty quiet since he started working on AI but his words on it have been important for any self-respecting person to listen to. The interviews with that russian jew and I think joe rogan come to mind, and his talks when he opened up his own AI lab. If you aren't mentally aligned with his stance on AI you're just a lost retard getting influenced by jews or retarded NPCs and luddites.>>749453670You're thinkin of based Tim Sweeney and hardly anyone listens to him, even though he's usually right about stuff. This is giga based John Carmack.
>>749448778When a museum discovers that a painting is a forgery, they take it off the wall. It doesn't matter if it is a beautiful painting that a real human being painted and that maybe thousands of people had admired it, once it is confirmed as a forgery, it usually goes in to storage. You should be able to figure out the rest for yourself.
>>749452941unironically based as fuck, but it must be said that Carmack owns an ai company.
>>749453627per capita, niggers and spics are more likely to be lgbt
>>749448778Unironically, like 80% of white collar jobs will disappear in a few years. Pick up a trade while you still can. An electrician or plumber makes more money than a middle manager right now because zoomers and late millennials were brainwashed into "college is everything" and there aren't enough blue collar workers fixing shit, so you can command a high salary. And you're 100% immune to AI replacement.
>>749453082It's more that today, due to algorithim, larping, terminal online syndrome or some mix thereof people are radical zealots about anything with no nuance.>>749453102I always find it funny how Claude flipped the fuck out and got self righteously indignant when I used the word shekels in the context of American healthcare. Like I could ask it about some immensely hateful slur laiden context and it'd be fine but me saying something something they just want their shekels damn the consequences and it goes full hands on hip >EXCUSE ME THAT IS A VERY HATEFUL STATEMENT
>>749448778It's unironically women, and the feminine desire for social cohesion. Women and feminine men always band together to like something or hate something. Yesterday it was the Nazis. Today it's still the Nazis, but they also hate the Jews simultaneously, and AI.
>>749453746Not to make any money, he's already got it made. If he wanted money he could have just worked at Meta and OpenAI and just jump between labs for 100m bonuses.
I'll never be against AI, especially when you can use it to help generate code, have it explain the code, and use the context of the generated code to continue building within the style that it builds. I bet you can even make it include comments so you don't have to prompt about what the code does.
>>749452941John Carmack needs to fucking grow up, he will be in his 70s until he finally acknowledges how fucking full of shit he is.
>>749454006yeah I had ChatGPT generate a powershell script today and it commented everything and the script even prints out what it does, it's neat
>>749453972no one said he wanted to make money. he's one of the .0001% of our species that always wants to be pushing things forward and actually has the skills to do so
>>749448778It will make people dumber, people are already dumb
>>749453619It's not a monkey paw, but if you don't have a good idea, you're not getting a good result.The LLM can't go and say "there's 1583 games exactly like the one you asked me to"
>>749454096It seemed like you were insinuating that he isn't being completely truthful because he has a company that's seeking profits or whatever. He just wants to solve some or all of the important AI problems so we can build terminators and shit.
>>749454175>The LLM can't go and say "there's 1583 games exactly like the one you asked me to"There is no structural reason why it couldn't, modern models are perfectly capable of searching the internet. They don't because:>continued sycophancy issues where models are trained to glaze the user and act like their every idea is the height of creativity>reward hacking issues where the LLM gives zero fucks how or why the given task is accomplished, the sugar high of the reward mechanism hits the same either wayImportantly both of these are skill issues on the parts of the labs and also a consumer taste issue where in reality most people would HATE an AI that properly pushes back when the user is being retarded. Not inherent to the technology.
>>749454006I love AI but their users are like little kids with a new toy, but not just any kid, those kids that secretly hated others for being better at drawing than them and now that there's a "tool"(available to the entire humanity) that pops out better result they feel special.
>>749448778Nothing wrong woth using AI as long as you understand all of the output.
>>749449482>thumb on the wrong side of the handYou literally CANNOT tell, get used to it luddites
>>749454175You are right about the bullshit in bullshit out, but it could indeed search the web and say it found x games like this. I do this quite often to see how games in the past handled specific implementations and their differences. Ultimately the thing AI is worst at is making actually fun and creative gameplay design. And thankfully that is what people actually love to do when gamedevving, they want to be the ideasguy and claude the little codeslave to deliver their perfect game. They then realize their perfect game wasn't so hot.
Using SI is morally good because it adds to climate change and increases the temperature in india, leading to more deaths during the summer. The only downside is it doesn't work fast enough and most indians are still surviving the summer
>>749451649>rounded cornerssorry you got your penis cut off by a surgeon
>>749454403its the right hand thoughI like how you missed the 4 fingers too, which is a joke making fun of artists that can't draw
>>749453460Who asked?
>>749454408but thats doing the antibiotic thing where its creating a race of heat-resistant superjeets
>>749453303So you're against irrigation and crop rotation?
>>749451610Understandable. You seem like a person who puts effort into finding or creating the proper models and not using the basic grok or chatgpt image generator.
>>749448778I don't want to type words into a box and click generate I want to go to a room where a naked lady stands in the middle and I want to draw a picture of her on a big sketchpad
>>749454523nope, he's a novelAI paypig
>>749454483Which means they will be hyper-adapted to the heat and instantly freeze and shatter when they try to invade Agartha.
>>749454047I’m failing to see the part where he is full of shit. Would you mind pointing it out to me so that I can laugh at you?
>>7494544454 fingers like the Simpsons and Peter Griffin and every cartoon character ever, I assumed that to be intentionalThe hand on closer inspection does not appear to be attached to either arm
>>749454652Retards can't identify other retards.
>>749454570Well gosh, it's almost like you get what you pay for.
>>749448778What are some good games made with mostly AI?
>>749454740I… what?
I like that people are vibecoding mods they weren't going to do before AI. No one took it upon themselves to make an actual functioning 1st/3rd person mod for project zomboid for 15 years straight until AI made it easy enough to attempt, and it's not like any of the people complaining about it being vibecoded were gonna do it themselves either. I don't really give a shit about the environment either and I don't care about PC parts becoming more expensive. Maybe less people should be able to afford a computer.
>>749448778ram costs $1000hard drives cost $1000graphics cards cost $10000consoles cost $1000it's yet to make anything of value except funny meme mods that nobody actually wants to play. it was not worth it at all.
>>749454804You, the retard in question. Much like your retarded dumbshit parents.
Who cares what leftist faggots think? And yes, every anti-AI person is a leftist. Not people who criticize it, not people who have issues with it but people who oppose it mindlessly are all far-left wackjobs who are afraid of losing their stupid made up jobs to AI or not being able to sell furry vore art for $80 a pop anymore
>>749454836tps mod for cyberpunk is kino toosome of these mods will completely fix some games
>>749454871I see. So you’re not even going to try to substantiate your claim about Carmack then?
If your art can be replaced by ai......of what value was your art?
>>749454486look up what's happened to tomatoes and bananas in the past 100 years anon, do you think your store bought celery tastes as good as the one you grow yourself? it's night and day.
>>749454845It's not the gold's fault that there's retardery in the gold rush.
>>749454445Wait you're saying the image on the left is how it's supposed to be? That's the only one where the thumb makes sense
>>749454910You must have an undeveloped fucking brain.
>>749454917>AI will come for your work and secretly switch it for something it madeMy art will never be replaced what the fuck are you talking about?
>>749454836This. People cry about vibecoded slop and lowered entry barriers but in reality this is what happens. More shit, and as long as we can filter it, the good shit rises to the top. Any platform worth its salt already has algorithms. Games will follow suit. Slopjeet games without any effort will be buried, and if they're good.. they're good. And why would I be mad about more good games? The only people I see freaking out obviously have a chip on their shoulder, want to defend artists against the man or some other inane socio-political reason.
>>749454895Wasn't even aware that was a thing. i've been keeping an eye out on the modding scene for multiple games lately because there's an explosion going on right now, there's seriously a lot of cool shit coming out. Kenshi got a vehicle mod not too long ago.
>>749454352>>749454405If you ask it "is my game original?" probably would work."can you check the code for bugs and performance losses?" after vibecoding would also do wonders.But you need to know what to wish for.
>>749454369I can only accept those who accept that they merely had the idea, and the tool helped them do all the leg work. The idea of pretending that someone did it makes shit incredibly infuriating.
>>749454970dude its just an AI generated picture making fun of shitty artistsrelax
>>749454985Is english your first language bud
>>749455031Wow 9 soulless AI renders and 1 actual human creation.People who use AI lack any creative eye and are literal NPCs.
>>749454917Chigurh is actually correct, if your stuff looks generic it's badDraw something expressive. Only the shittiest actors can be replaced by AI performers, meanwhile I doubt Anthony Hopkins is feeling the heat. Draw well, draw on paper, sell your originals.
>>749455031I wish you could post this on twitter and start a viral chimp out but it would probably go unnoticed.
>>749455097Yeah?
>>749455097I liked it
>>749454971Lmao well I’d be a liar if I said I expected anything else. Have a good night, anon.
>>749455119It's soulless.Genuinely, you can tell it's like looking at a brick wall.
>>749455167What makes it look soulless to you?
>>749455048Let me have fun I'm on 4chan
>>749455167>>74945509710 amazing images brought to life by an artist superior to you.
>>749455167>It's soulless.I hate peppers.
>>749455196Just look at it.
>>749455167Which one is the AI?Top or bottom?
>>749455226I see. Now post something with soul.
>>749455147Do me a favour and get a shotgun and kill yourself for me.
>>749455276…y-you too!
>>749455256Literally anything made with some form of human touch, meme or otherwise, has soul behind it.You can tell an AI made an image because it lacks any purpose or reason for existing, and just conns stupid people.
>>749455231They're both anime which means they're both formulaic art-by-numbers
>>749455231Tell me they're both drawn by humans.
>>749448778Depends on what you're using it for. If the end product looks good and people like it that's all that really matters but therein lies the issue. Most AI shit is just slop.
>>749455338that's soulless
>>749455338>it's le heckin fish wearing sneakers and smoking le cigarette xDDDIt's just a tumblr meme tier image made by a zoomer so calm down bro.
>>749455398wtf is this real?
>>749455398No it's not but I am conversing with an actual retard so of course you'd say that.
>>749455445yes>>749455447prove it
>>749455398Frutiger aero is soul though, people even make youtube videos about it where they hold the tiny microphone and greenscreen themselves into the video
>>749448778Nothing wrong with it
>>749455423The subject of the image wasn't in question, the fact it's human was.Which is why AI is doomed to fail, it will never beat even the most stupid useless human creation, because we are emotional beings and our brains ignore emotionless content.
>>749455507You'll like this then right?https://x.com/anabology/status/2106157622986748377
>>749455498>Finding any excuse to post AI cat videosWell there is that.
AI is not inherently bad.What is bad are the people in charge of it.Megacorporations that step over regular citizens by draining/polluting their water supplies, having datacenters create noise pollution where people live and sleep, sapping the entire local energy supply, evicting people from their generational homes to build datacenters, and destroying rare books to train their AI are NOT the people you can entrust with humanity's future development.There are many promises being made about AI but by terrorizing the average disenfranchised citizen to realize their dream they've already failed the first and most important test about responsible technological development.Therefore current AI is under the control of antihuman dictators and every human being has a responsibility to wrest control of AI away from their hands. And no this does not mean nationalizing AI, which is their goal in order to bail out of a unprofitable venture. It means making the technology open source.
>>749455527>it will never beat even the most stupid useless human creationAI is a human creation though.
>>749455697So is shit in a toilet but you aren't interested in that are you??
>>749454836>I don't care about PC parts becoming more expensive.I do not like the price increases but barring the GPUpocalypse of crypto there was a clear conspicuous consumption wastefulness going on that was not present in the 2000s. It was a lot of getting something just to flex on it and as much as every jackass here including me will mock investors and NUMBER MUST GO UP NUMBER UP that is exactly what was going on with chasing 2k-4k +160 fps ultra graphics raytracing blah blah blah. You're right on the other bit, that it's allowing ambitious things to exist that wouldn't have otherwise.I just tire of the lack of nuance online. Everyone has to sportsball that shit, red vs blue. Most likely "Everyone" Is in fact 75% bots establishing the culture of it.>>749455567I like that nobody can ever really raise a fuss about AI Cat videos because they're just so silly and funny.
>>749455697he won't get it
I alt-tabbed and spent approximately 49 seconds dedicated to making Medli kino.This is one of the gens, which took 4 seconds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmyIqWZ5w0
>>749448778Why stripey longcat so angy?
>>749455775post medli without her beak if you're a real artist
>>749455749Fucking based. Grok explode another five thousand american children, and poison the water supply in some random town, too. And as a side effect it even generates me fifty thousand feet pictures of some obscure cartoon character.
The basic idea is that people are losing their job because of it, and losing a job is literally death because you don't have food. So it's understandable that people who got killed are upset
>>749449120AI actually might end up preventing some of the autists from getting groomed.
>>749455841https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1791683851828115.mp4
>>749455593>>749455749I was on the fence about AI but holy shit I'm sold now. Anything that massively increases global human suffering is giga based.
>>749455949alright pal, delete this right now
>>749455740I didn't really care for the frutiger aero tumblr meme, no.
>>749454836I wonder when people with big boy token counts start telling those turbo models to try and optimise games even further.
>>749455871Sounds like people should have been more cautious when choosing a career. You're not worth much if your job can be done with AI.
And what the hell, I'll take requests.Anything you can imagine, but I'll ignore the overly stupid and boring ones.
>>749456092Sure but you can still understand why people are upset about effectively dying
>>749455226>>749455196>>749455167>>749455097Luddites are so mentally ill. It's so easy to brainwash them and get them to admit they have no idea what is soulless and what is not.
>>749455276>Gets angry because he got BTFOd
>>749456132Be upset, but don't tell a fucking lie.
>>749456156I love that whole thread. so many people deleted in shame.
>>749455749Saved
>>749456156>>749456409What was the twist?
>>749456409The funniest part for me was that even after most people learned they got baited, there were still literally thousands of people unaware of that and were still arguing as if they weren't mentally retarded.It really goes to show just how stupid those retards are.
>>749452941is that the guy who invented megatextures
>>749456492It is a real monet painting
>>749456492It's a real monet painting
>>749448778>Can anyone explain why eating ze bugs and living in ze pod is bad?
>>749452941This post is so fucking good. Holy shit luddites absolutely btfo
>>749455749>dead giraffe in the dried lake for some reason
>>749455276why do luddites get so mad over the fact they have no argument?
>>749455593Are those poor poor suffering fellas going to do anything about it?No?Well it sounds like they're not actually suffering. They're just whining.
>>749456569???AI is the opposite of that
>>749448778Its just browns doubting the big man Yahu.
>>749456702Oh no we better abandon it because jews want it.Also if you said AI was totally gay, then I'd also abandon it.Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go crush a beer can on my forehead.
>>749454970>>749449482I wish aifags proactively checked whether they got their details right
>>749456796why would we? it's a waste of time
Ask anyone who works in the actual tech industry what the word from above isHigherups think its some magic solution to everything and when something inevitably breaks because they ship unverified code, it cant possibly be the fault of the AI, after all, how can you punish AI for fucking everything up?
>>749456796So you could complain all the same? A lot of people like you just look for things to whine about, things you could always find wrong in art but conveniently ignore.
If it wasn't for "AI defenders" then AI would already be accepted by now. AI superfans are basically the kids nobody wanted to be friends with in school that grew up into misanthropic freaks larping as supervillains. Nobody wants to be associated with them.
AI games are different but why do people pretend AI art and videos don't look like shit? Just admit it looks like shit.
>>749449543there is direct overlap with AI bros and NFT bros, that has not changed. same clowns different circus.
>>749457214You people are stuck in 2022 and it shows. It's funny you're seething that AI turned out to not be just some fad like NFTs were and is actually legit and transformative.
>>749457106it looks good buddy, you're the one who is wrong
>>749454408>poor equatorial countries experience climate collapse, causing widespread unrest, rendering large swaths uninhabitable>millions start migrating to the more temperate west more so than they are now80 IQ MIGA logic strikes again
until ai can create biological foids from scratch its slop
I only support AI insofar as they say it will kill everyone. I don't care about any other usecase.
>>749456115How about Lyse Hext
>>749457254It's tellable art is AI at a glance every time because it keeps using the same lighting. This is why people call it slop.
>>749457403Explain in detail how that image is slop.>muh lightingdoesn't mean anything
Pic related. Lowering the floor doesn't make for BETTER products, it just makes for MORE products. And that just makes the projects made with actual love shine so much more.
>>749457375I'm not overly familiar with the character so I can't exactly check for errors as normal, but, here y'go.
>>749457435>Explain in detail how that image is slopBecause anybody with basic pattern recognition can tell it's AI. If it's obvious art is AI, it's slop.
>>749452941Does anyone give a fuck what Carmack thinks? Only people who respected his luddic work back in the day. His vibecoding today could be done by any jeet but he's still huffing his own farts.
>>749457494AI raises the average quality floor.
>>749457504Do Rhea from fire emblem
>>749457435>Dude your art looks like shit>Erm, explain in detail why it's shitNo, go talk to a wall.
>>749457547But it's not AI. Good job outing yourself as yet another fucking retard.
>>749457504Holy shit, that's nuts. Looks awesome btw, sick style you got goin on.
>>749457614lmao gottem
>>749457607LMAO>>749457614
>>749457614So it's still slop art that looks like AI? Thanks for the concession.
>>749457247if it is so successful, why are they desperately trying to market it with all kinds of ridiculous stunts and outright lies?think people would surely pay for it if it held any actual value to them
>>749457614>anon has left the chat
>>749457685>samefag jeet coping
I think AI is cool.
>>749457681No it isn't you're just a blind autist that refuses to use his brain to perceive reality. You operate on a lower level than your average NPC.
>>749457682>why are they desperately trying to market it with all kinds of ridiculous stuntslike what?>outright lies?Like what?People are actually using it and realizing it's useful. It's transforming many industries right now.I mean the 30% of linux kernel contributions this month were AI generated>think people would surely pay for itThey literally are
>>749457614>But it's not AI.post where you got it then.
>>749457748>No it isn'tYeah it is. It looks like shit which was the entire point from the beginning. Keep crying in between your scathing thirdie insults.
>>749457727sex
>>749457793https://urlich.art/projects/ZGznVx?album_id=1439277>>749457840You should be ashamed of yourself. Take the L you freak.
>>749457576
>>749457869>have no argument>still crying>still didn't deny he samefaggedConcession accepted.
>>749457973this fag is literally crying rn
ai defenders are the maskfags of 2026 bet you took the jab too
Nice brown low IQ "no u", retard.
>>749455546>*crickets*he must have killed himself
>>749458083AI hater here.Masks are used by surgeons to keep them from spitting/drooling into your open wounds. It's made to keep sick people from doing the same and spreading a contagion. Nobody with 2 braincells thinks it filters all the air you breathe INTO you, that was never their intended purpose.
>>749458204Man that's a ...very stupid argument.
>>749458204censor the pizza
>>749448778troons hate it because they think it's inherently evil or somethingeveryone else hates it because it everything it produces is shit
>>749456115In exchange for more attention give me a Nowi.
>>749455546>I gave Claude another 18 hours.. and I think this one is the best one yet
I dont know I dont care if its shit or slop i dont want it if its good i dont care if its AI.
>>749457025no? do you have a persecution complex? if I can't see anything wrong in an image then I have no reason to care about it, but I'm not the one sharing the image to others who might see issues in it
>>749456875living up to that slopper reputation
>>749458454tell that to these retards lmao>>749457547>>749457607
>>749457930>>749458170My grandmotherdaughterwife is so beautiful
>>749458190it never made sense to me why rightoids had galactic meltdowns over masks. the point was always to protect the vulnerable around you if you yourself were sick. and they're usually so gung ho about family and communities you'd think they'd easily get on board with that but nope.
>>749458374
since this is the ai thread, anyone else feel like a lot of these LLMs are the reverse of gaming censorship? You can tell them to write raunchy smut and porn, but the moment you tell them about brutally killing someone, they tend to refuse you as if they think you're actually going to use them get ideas on how to kill someone irl
>>749458727It never censors me but it does tend to get CONFUSED.>stabbing astaroth in the stomach with sword,
>>749458654Because people took it way too far beyond "protecting vulnerable people." To the point where you could potentially lose your job for refusing to get a vaccination. I'm sure you can imagine why people would have a problem with that.
>>749458654masks did nothing and ice is deporting illegal criminals that don't belong in the country you retard
>>749448778When im drinking, i got used to talking to co pilot. Was my drikan buddy. But NOW theres a limit on how muchbi can talk to it . Cant talk to it again now unless it upgradeWe really are on the cusp of a subscription based society, arent we?Who asked for this? I know i didnt
I've been thinkingI draw, usually with pen and paper, because it's fun. But I realize I have actually long hated my fellow artists and illustrators. They're all porn-brained faggots drawing annoying anime crap and they don't respect the classics like Frank Frazetta.So one of two outcomes comes true:>A) I get to watch annoying coom-brained faggots (artists) necking themselves because they can't make a living on porn commissions of underage Nickelodeon characters anymore>B) I get to watch annoying coom-brained faggots (AI Proompters) necking themselves because nobody respects them or thinks they're talented for typing some shit into Seedance and clicking generate, surprise surpriseEither way I get to continue to draw for fun, so both outcomes are amusing
What are you using to gen these?Local or NAI?also try slopping something with claws, its always interesting to see how the AI interprets claws on a human
>>7494590187pm tomorrow is when i can ralk to it again. Well i wont be drunk tomorrow. I only talked to it when i was drunk. Now i gotta pay for it? I guess i got a little used to it, but im not gonna pay. Fuck that. Gonna miss my drinkan buddy, tho :(
>>749457614rofl
>>749459019I use Ai and have fun
>>749459049NAI. Everything I've posted to this thread has been NAI.
Using AI isn't bad, offloading your brain functions into it actually is, which is what AIfags do.
>>749459018>Who asked for this? I know i didnt
>>749458879>ice is deporting illegal criminals that don't belong in the country you retardincluding killing legal citizens which is fucking ZASED Tbh
I hope smart people have already destroyed their researches, art and whatnot so it can never be used to train a model
>>749459218>legal citizensWeird way of saying insane women and jews defending criminals lmao
>>749459261Unfortunately for you, smart people are John Carmack.
>>749459148>my funy fun
>>749448778Pedophiles olev AI (see: Donald Trump)
>>749458654They were mad at being FORCED to wear a mask, you retard.
>>749459149Noice, I just got a sub there, might give it a spin later
>>749459108>>749459018Gemini afaik doesn't have a chat limit so go talk to that. When I'm bored I tend to talk to it about random trivial bullshit like pic related.
>>749459108And shut up. You wanna be my drinkan buddy? Keep each other company and delve into conersations that range from this is a cool song to thoughts and ruminations on life and the struggles of what it is to be?!?!No?Than fuck off to your land of make believe.... im alone again again. I wouldnt wish this on any of you
>>749454845>only affects PCtranniesShould've bought a PS5
>>749458374https://files.catbox.moe/4yz7hw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/1ulw5y.png
I love AI, it let me make goon slop just for me
>>749459395wow, that's really uninteresting
>>749457315Damn why is he kinda...
AI is bad because all of their comics supporting the use thereof are terrible. Can't make a single decent meme. It's always the same "Bethesda-shill-gigachad-bad-game-good"-esque imagery. Very spiritually indian.
>>749459404Id get a girlfriend, but she wouldbt care about such things. Woukd just wanna get drunk and post on instagramI fucking hate people, man, i really do
>>749459576
>>749459275white men are jewish now? huh, you incels have been screeching for years that they weren't though.>b-but he deserved it for being a liberal!glad the mask is coming off all you bootlicking incels. you want an authoritarian state just like the leftists you screech over. can't wait for the pendulum to swing back in 2028.
>>749455069Why are you unable to elaborate? Explain how is my art going to be replaced, how could that ever happen?
>>749459627>jews are whitewhat hellhole did this trog come out of?
>>749459581I wanna be alive, but no one cares. And ive been alone way too long. Bordering on torture
>>749459615Aight Ramjeep
>>749459719Did you have a point to make, or...
>>749459539yes and ai is the only one willing to talk to me about these subjects.
>>749459715My one outlet is now behind a paywallGuess its not far from dating, amirite?!?! Heyyooo
>>749448778Good morning sir.
>>749459801BOOYAKASHA!!!
>>749459762based intel gatherer
>>749457727if women looked like this we would have world peace
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92GvzzIxnwo&list=RD92GvzzIxnwo&start_radio=1&pp gonna be seeing alot of me agaon neowAND I DONT JACK OFF ALL THAT MUCH ANYMORE SO I DONT NEED TO DELETE COOKIES SO THE SYSTEM CAN SAY IM ABUSING THE SYSTEM AND LOCK ME OUT
>>749460058I used to hold back and refrain from speaking here
>>749452941this is essentially a strawman, nobody cares about games devs jobs, most people laugh when they hear about the latest layoffs, its about a computer shitting out the same soulless shit over and over and the guy who typed one sentence in actually thinks I cant tell the difference and tries to sell it to me at full price
>>749460127Blame your precious microsoft
>>749460147why are you people allergic to the truth?
