>japanese criminal gang members are honorabre samurai who live by a code of ethics and have traditions and morals>chinese and korean criminal gang members are all evil dirty psychopaths who act like animalsIs this true?
>>749467307have you seen the chinese?
Yes, chinese and koreans are low-morals gaijins
>>749467307I've more often wondered if Koreans really are nearly hyper competent Tacticool warriors. That stereotype is so outside of my knowledgebase. While Chinese being bros who cook I get.
>>749467307Yakuza is kinda peculiar that way. I guess Cosa Nostra would be closest comparison, but Yakuza isn't really a secretive organization.
>>749467307You never played it, have you?
China is literally more pozzed than the US.
>>749467307>japanese criminal gang members are honorabre samurailmfaodidn't play it platinum triple diamond award
>>749467307All criminals are trash
>>749467501>undergone GRSlaaaame
>>749467307it is true in nortubel
>>749467307No, all professional criminals are worthless scumbags. Japs just romanticize Yakuza because of the strong national/ethnic pride of Japan (one of the nations best qualities) and because the extremely deeply engrained slave mentality of the Japanese where they consider it the ultimate moral achievement to be a pathetic sniveling boot licking cog (one of the worst qualities of the nation)
>>749467307You have not played the games. Kiryu makes enemies and allies of both japanese and foreigners.
>>749467307Japanese men are very tough brutal.
>>749467307Literally no game in the series says this and in fact the opposite is made clear most of the time except in 8 with the main character but then again he is a dickhead who was raised in a brothel and only had yakuza to look up to. Also in the same game you get an honorable chinese triad and korean mafia member as party members. Also it gets revealed multiple times that half of these yakuza guys are actually double agents working for the korean mafia lol
>>749467730Ps. I meant you get them in 7 but they are also in 8. The two koreans are actually the best party members in the game btw
>>749467730>>749467619>>749467472>>749467516i've literally played all the games and you are deluded if you don't notice it portrays japanese yakuza as having redeemable qualities and an honour code and traditions, whereas chinese and korean mafia are portrayed as generic criminal scum with no redeeming qualities
>>749468213I mean that is only sort of true by virtue of them being antagonists my point is that in those same games the yakuza clans primarily the Nishikiyama clan are also a bunch of antagonistic dishonorable pieces of shit who just want to get ahead. Hell most of Yakuza 3 revolves around yakuza psycopaths like picrel who are the exact opposite of those qualities. Also also yakuza are the main antagonists of most of the games with the chinese and korean guys being fodder, even the newist one alonside an American cult leader.
>>749467637most yakuza in real life are deliquents, dorks, nerds, racial minorities (in japan) and foreigners who were unsuccessful in life. the type of weak willed person who would be targeted by military enlistment are the type to join the yakuza.>>749468404tbf yakuza 3 is a pretty extreme exception
>>749468213These games are most likely funded by the Yakuza itself, so it's pretty obvious that they would romanticise it.Yakuza is a lot more openly intertwined with legal business than any other cartel in the world, they probably wouldn't cut their balls if the games depicted them badly but a lot of money would be lost.
>>749468213>generic criminal scum with no redeeming qualitiesthe same can be said of the yakuza clans from the perspective of the koreans and chinese. there is subtext that the yakuza are just as scummy and ruthless as anyone else and if they weren't viewed from the protagonist's pov you would despise them just as much.
>>749467369they good ones litterally got devoured
>>749468213No, the entire foundation of the series is based around the philosophy that there are no happy endings for criminals. This isn't some asspull; that's what the developers envisioned the entire franchise around, and something you may have noticed while playing through the series; although admittedly, it has gotten quite sunshine/lollipops after 6.
>>749468213Most of the villains are in Tojo clan, dumb dumb
0 was the worst narrative in the entire franchise and led to the total death of the game's purity. 0 'fans' aren't fans of Yakuza they are fans of Reddit shit Japan.
>>749470754lmao of course you hate the most popular one
Infinite Wealth put me off so much I stopped playing these
>>749467501They probably looked at all the neo-fascist bullshit the US was doing the past 10 years, saw where it got them, and thought "Let's do the complete opposite of that."
>>749470896Y2 >Y4 > Y5 > Y7 > Y6 > Y1 > Y3 > Y8 > no vidya > Y0
>>749471205Close. China saw what the US was doing in the 90s and started to gear itself to be more competitive and ever since then America has been continuously shooting themselves in the foot trying to stamp out China.
>>749467501Chinkbros...
>>749468213>i've literally played all the games and you are deluded if you don't notice it portrays japanese yakuza as having redeemable qualities and an honour code and traditionsOnly protagonists like Kiryu or others like Majima have this while the villains are always "muh Omi clan" or some retarded shit like some lowly Tojo Clan member getting pissed off that Kiryu is living the dream or whatever.>whereas chinese and korean mafia are portrayed as generic criminal scum with no redeeming qualitiesJust give it time and you'll have Yokoyama writing some retarded bullshit how some Triad or korean mafia members are honorable just so he can get more sales from chinks and gooks.
>>749471983I only played up to Kiwami 2 but the way the Korean Mafia is portrayed in that game is like they are sociopathic aliens. The Yakuza villains are still portrayed with some degree of humanity.
>>749471276>5 this high>4 this low
No, movies whitewashed them a lot.Same as the Godfather for the NY Mafia, they are really just a bunch of slightly more organized thugs
>>749472294Outside Saijema hunting section I enjoyed 5 and basically look at the goofy DBZ super moves as just a poor one off design choice... ignoring the Ichiban-verse.
>>749471205neofascist bullshit such as...?
>>749472202Yeah, kiwami 2's original writer was an actual crime novelist where yakuza had some edge to it, so it's different from the yokoyama and nagoshi shit where groups like the geomijul in Y7 helping you and even seem like the good guys.
>>749468213Virtually every single character in the series that isn't a protagonist is legitimate scum of the earth which includes the Japanese Yakuza, both the Omi and Tojo Clan. An entire city was running a psyop to ruin Shinada's life for crying out loud.
>>749467307at no point are any of the yakuza you constantly fight "honorable" the only honorable yakuza is the MC and his friends and even then
I don't care for the discussion, i just came here to say sex with seonhee
Isn't this entire series just Kiryu & friends being the only 'honorable' yakuza guys in existence. Plus in real life, if you actually bought the Yakuza propaganda seriously LOL, how do you fall for shit that wasn't even targetted toward you. Ironic because it's the same guys who are anti-illegals/crime for Japan while glazing them on 4chan right? Dude, yakuza are the guys trafficking in randoms in and out of the country. As well as pushing drugs when you get past the trad larp. These guys tossed people off buildings for making films exposing these frauds
>>749467307>>yakuza are honorable samuraiHow the fuck do you come away from playing yakuza with that kind of impression?>>Yakuza 0Kiryu goes against three high ranking officers who uses underhanded methods to punch down on Kiryu, in order to undermine Kazama, ultimately trying to extort a land deed from a blind girl. Majima on the other hand got literally tortured for refusing to let his brother take the fall for murder. He then gets played like a fiddle while his patriarch colludes with a kansai yakuza to undermine Tojo clan>>Yakuza 1Kiryu's brother and friend he grew up with gets drunk on yakuza power and money and turn against him. Shimano this time colludes with the chinese to undermine Tojo clan>>Yakuza 2Kiryu gets pulled into shit again, ultimately because Kazama killed a lot of Koreans in rival gang turf war >>Yakuza 3the bad shit are orchestrated by a nutcase yakuza who has an inflated image of Daigo. Kiryu also got stabbed by another yakuza>>Yakuza 4Shit went down because yakuza business is struggling so they worked with a corrupt cop to try and steal a lot of moneyI have played Y5 nor Y6, but everywhere you go in this game series, it's yakuza being fucking dicks, and the ultimate villains are always yakuzaKiryu and co are unicorns and don't belong.
>game is literally called "yakuza">series has a billion games>he is always either kicked out of the yakuza or in prison or an old "legendary yakuza" out of the game trying to help his yakuza friends>the entirety of his years of crime and extortion (actual yakuza shit) happen offscreenIt's so goddamn tiresome.
>>749474652>the ultimate villains are always yakuzain the first game the main villain is a corrupt high ranking politician
