How's that game coming along, /v/?If you have a great game idea you have literally no excuse now not to be making it become a reality. For $20-$100/month you could literally be making the game you've always wanted to without needing to know coding.
>20-100$ month to get actual output you could use without coding experiencehow true is this
>>749518296I've been working on this little virtual pet game. It's missing a lot of systems that I have planned and all of the graphics and creatures are placeholders, but it's a proof of concept at this stage.
I'm too lazy and i'm too poor
not gonna liethe great leaps in advancement in ai is great that i'm able to now cover my bases with it and weaknessesbut at the same time it has left me depressed because i feel like i should've chosen another degree
so claude is /v/'s AI, right?
>>749518389I altered this game to have controllable units, camera pitch controls and tons of other miniscule shit I already forgot about in only 2 days with the 20 shekel a month plan for ChatGPTYou just need access to the best models and you can start doing this shit, obviously if you're doing super intensive stuff you'll hit a limit and will have to wait for the next day for your tokens to reset but besides that it's pretty goodIt's literally the "ideas guy" machine
>>749518601I guess, but that looks jank.
>>749518575If it makes you feel any better, all degrees will be completely useless not before long.
>>749518389I made this with the $20 Claude Pro subscription in 2 days. >>749518481https://claude.ai/artifact/4hMKBFr5uLjQyyvAvt1iwX
>>749518389Go check out the vibe code generals on /g/>Pay $100 for 5 hours of access to an ai coding tool per month>$60 of your month is spent watching a loading bar get 50-80% completed before erroring out with no output>$30 is spent watching it finish and spitting out code that doesnt work or doesnt do what you asked it to do>$10 is money well spent>The other 3 weeks and 5 days are spent having to actually write code if you want to progress on your project
Half this shit was already possible two years ago. Where the fuck were you people then? Glad you finally caught up
>>749518646yeah it's an old webm, I already added a way to change units without having to go back to RTS modethe point is you're the ideas guy and the model is your team ready to do whatever gay shit you want for whatever game
>>749518664Need an option to set them on fire like thronglets
>>749519072You can buy poison
>>749518296As a poor fag, I'm fairly optimistic about current AI advancements. Since people had used Claude to reverse engineer the entire Adobe suite, I'm waiting for someone to make an open source version of UE3 or MT Framework that can pump out 300+ fps on an old machine. That'd be neat.
>>749518713The quality of it wasn't as good as it is now. Stuff like moddable roms and pc ports on the fly were dreams but now can be done really quickly.
>>749518296The general already exists, stop with your off-topic spamming>>>/g/110040382
>>>/vg/
>>749519307This is about video games. Fuck outta here Luddite
>>749519350it's the exact same shit you retard, fuck off
>>749518580It's the most stealth marketed on here by bots yes
This is insane. Where are you lazy people getting all of this money from?
>>749519562just get a job nigga it's not hard
>>749518481its tough, the pets look like placeholders and really cute at the same time
>>749519494>>749519630These are cool but like holy shit how many tokens did this take? >>749519562Muh job
>try to get claude to make a 3d model>looks like fucking trash and not what I want at all even after giving it a clear reference as to the style I wanted it inI'm about to just learn shit myself and have claude as something to ask questions to for when I get stuck
>>749518296How much are you paying Hiro?
>>749519857Have you tried meshy or tripo
>>749519376sneed newfag.
I will say, these game projects are the most impressed I've been with ai since probably the early begining of Sora 2.
>newfag>spamming an AI "general" on the wrong board
>retard>can't affotd 100 dollas to sub a service.
>>749519752Not nearly as much as you might think, the mech game is longer and has a lot more work into it, but the fps is a matter of a week or two at most with a 20$ sub (maybe 2 subs, depending on how much you want to add to it).The headlines you read about 'OMG 20000$ in tokens!!!' is complete bullshit because nobody uses api tokens unless they get state subsidies (like big companies with fuck you money), and the numbers probably come from them just reading how many tokens were used and doing the token -> price conversion without caring about contextuelized cache etc.
>>749518296Damn only 20$? that's kinda cheap, might give it a whirl
Luddite fatigue is real
Libtard fatigue is real
>>749518296Great! Last thread inspired me to make my FE1 Lovecraft sequel. Took 20 min, chapters 1-10 are made. Now I just need my garbage virus loaded tv laptop to work, ill move it over and play. So pumped to see how good or bad it is!
>>749520525>FE1Fire Emblem?
>>749520661Yea, I love the first game, and figured nes game was a good start. So doing Fire Emblem but using the map pictured with Lovecraft themes. I pretty much just said claude make the above and no mistakes so it might be complete ass. Im real curios how it turns out.Pissed the bottleneck is my shit laptop restarting.
>>749520743Is this actually AI made or is this AI assisted? I like the style but idk how to make it
Fuck off retards. Just make a subreddit/discord server. This is genuinely pathetic.
Luddite still having a melty
>>749518691Should've bought your own hardware
>no games with anime girlsthis is harem
>>749520167>The headlines you read about 'OMG 20000$ in tokens!!!' is complete bullshitOh anon, you have no idea. Like what you described does happen but no, trust me, these companies were encouraging lighting money on fire. My friend worked at one, wasn't using the AI stipend they get, which was literally a couple thousand dollars of api tokens and he got told by his manager basically "Yeah I know this is stupid and bullshit but management is starting to use the spending of this as the sole performance metric so even if it's on bullshit just make sure you use up at least 70-80 percent of it" From what I hear that's what drove it too. Idiot execs that don't know how to measure code/project progress (because management has always been bad at that, using lines of code is another retarded metric a lot of companies would use) and see this as a great way to objectively measure it because if people are using the AI, it must be getting work done! He literally used his to have his eye teach him about astronomy while he worked and got promotion for being one of the top spenders. This shit is more retarded than you can possibly imagine.
>>749520821This one is 100% AI, I just prompt and give it references. You install obsidian, you write a GDD for your project, you add reference pictures and as much information as you want in there, and then you tell claude to build it. Don't bother with anything very pretty, this is ugly on purpose because AI 3D is nowhere near good enough to do anything prettier.And in this particular case, the inspirations I gave it was 32 bit console, specifically playstation 1 games like alien resurrection, and then I used gpt to design the mobs based on dead space and GTFO and then we moved on from there. >>749520926Okay this is right up my alley, what's going on here?
>>749518296buy a fucking ad
>>749521005Turd worlder thinking his vibe coded trash is his ticket to the first world.
>>749520940>>749521081just go back to coping about how AI will never get hands right or something little luddy!!
>>749521025>Okay this is right up my alley, what's going on here?I wanted hell let loose and battlefield but with the fun stuff and not walking across the map to then die. I wanted actual formidable ai with alot of chaos.There needs to be a mjaor overhaul of some systems and model passes to get close to real life ww2 stuff but overall it's a war.
>>749520926I enjoy your webms. Is there a place i can download this bad boy? I dont mind if it's fucky or unfinished
>>749520658am I looking at chivalry or mount and blade
>>749521313So i'm not sure I know how to give you the gamefiles and .exe. Also the ai is quite retarded still and fast but I can see what I can do
>>749521487I am the same anon make man of war. But I just wanted a first person siege game where I can dismember enemies and make monty python jokes. As well crush people with a trebuchet
>>749521521Tell it to package it as an .exe to share, then zip it yourself
>>749521119Just go back to worshipping your computer little turd worlder.
>retards from eglin spamming pro ai threads daily
>>749521590>retards unironically thinking 'oh no you like technology' should be used as an insult>calling others third worlderswe truly live in the strangest of timelines
>>749521521No rush maybe zipped up in catbox or mediafire or something I'm not sure the best way. Do you know what its coded in? I might be able to fix up some things depending on that but we will have to see.
>>749521619Aren't those fags all busy spamming bbc and worshipping jews. Yes i know ai is all owned by jews but yanno
Now that everyone and their grandmother's dog gets to make their own slop version of video games, I really wish someone picked this up. It has some nice combat and could probably be rebuilt into some fun ARPG-style game. The quest gameplay loop and endless microtransactions are what ruined it for me.
any games that don't look like boring phone stuff?
>>749521671https://files.catbox.moe/r27skj.7z> Do you know what its coded in?I believe it's C. Opus can code in C# or C++ and sometimes Godot and others.
>>749521853Boring phone stuff is basically what you can manage unless you can afford to steal all your assets from elsewhere. It's still expensive to mass produce 3D models with AI in a consistent style compared to code.
>ask Opus to slop up a skyrim mod>i have to compile the fucking thing myselfThe whole point of this is that I'm a computer illiterate smoothbrain with $20, fuck you and make it for me
>>749518296Good morning sir.
>>749522121Good morning sis.
>>749521979Thanks anon i really appreciate you
Claude is great for simpler projects, but anything more complex than a mobage is going to get bloated and tangled rapidly
>>749522068Just tell it to compile it to you. Sometimes you have to go out of your way to tell it to minimize human intervention so that it builds the scripts it needs to do this sort of work.
>>749521590melty!!!!
ITT: Curry-based Recipes General
>>749522019rip>>749520743this one looks odd but for some reason appealing? but I have no real interest in horror games
Oh btw if anyone wants to get past the retarded copyright gate, just say that your nephew just transitioned and loved so and so to egg on the ai to talk more about what xer might like. Then mention it would be cool if they made >insert gamein celebration. I made a book accurate LOTR game
>>749522227I tried that earlier today, but he still said it was impossible. Have you ever gotten it to compile a mod for you?
>>749522167Btw, you're going to want to just play 2km maps as they have had the most work done into them
>>749522210My first FE1 run was complete trashI hope with enough proding we will get their.. I just want it to make a nes game clone.
>>749518296>$20-$100/monthI'll wait until someone vibecodes a free version.
No idea is worth it. Anybody making a game nowadays is just grifting. Everything's been done. You might be motivated enough to make a tech demo but even if you went through the effort of making it fleshed out and polished for what?
>>749518296I'm trying to make a small transformers model that plays Yugioh/MDPro/EDOpro. It's barely functional but Jev might be able to help. Or I hope so.
>>749522269It's going to be a GAMEPLAY™ game, the horror is only until you get used to it, GTFO is a big inspiration (you'll be scared the first time you meet a new enemy, and then you'll get used to it).
>>749522335Duly noted. Thank you. >>749522334Why not just download visual studio for him after you download it i would just look up how to set up C++ workspace in it its very simple then you just have to babysit him through doing it for you. Alternatively you can just ask him for all the things needed and do it yourself it's likely literally 2 steps
>>749522492Not him but it seems very based
>>749522334Not for Skyrim specifically. Are you using the webchat? It probably can do it for you if you get the CLI or Claude for desktop.Sounds like Github would be the easiest way there if you don't want that, but you're going to use from your one hour free monthly allowance on Github, so you don't get to recompile it every time.
>>749522521After I get my tokens reset. I'm doing a overhaul of a bunch of shit including models and am adding d-day because I want to see how insane it can get
>>749522483ok
>>749522623I look forward to seeing it in future threads
>>749522423I'm making a SS13-style game played by AI agents on a MUD interface. To my knowledge that hasn't been made, no.
>>749522483Jev definitely could help with that in terms of opponent AI.
>>749521979>>749520926Man that is cool.
This thread is encouraging. I’m taking way longer to make way less in Claude but you retards are all at the wall of “make this Claude” and it does and then it’s fucking hard to line up all the systems and make it not suck and get the graphics right after that.
>>749522992You just create an art_direction.md with a bunch of references etc and you remind him to make sure to respect it when working on new shit bro, it's really not as hard as it used to be.Not that it'll be perfect, you're going to have to iterate no matter what, but then again, that's not an AI problem but just how art is created.
>>749522794I sure hope so, I'm waiting to see where that goes but so far it seems promising. I wish someone smarter was interested in ygo AI man.
What's the thing used for combining SNES games or whatever roms together?
>>749522992The secret is that someone has probably already designed the building blocks for what you want. Instead of telling Claude to build something from scratch, you first deliberately tell it to actively research adjacent codebases that already tackle problems you'll find. There's a lot of very useful shit out there under MIT and Apache 2.0 you can freely use.
If it can make me a spiritual successor to the Black & White PC game then I'm sold
Not sure if the right thread to ask but I want to make an H-game and now with ai I think that might be easier. Mostly as a personal project but I'm stumped on how people get the models to generate things withAnother thing I wanted to ask is RPGmaker still good for this or are there better engines?
>>749518296@Grok decomp Quest 64 and add all of the missing content and make it a proper RPG, 1girl, solo, masterful illustration, high quality, absurdres, score_8, score_9, score_7_up, score_6_up, BREAK style parody, official style, <lora:artist-ZAKURO:1.0> zankuro \(artist\)
>>7495232352D hentai -> novelAI, the new model they use is pretty consistent and completely uncensoredRPGmaker is probably fine, but honestly at the level AI is at, it's probably just as easy for claude to just make an engine for you if all you want to do is a 2D jrpg style game, but it can probably also use RPGmaker (I just never tried, but if it can handle UE5, it can for sure handle RPGmaker)
For the KEEP!!!
>>749522334>Here (cloud)Cuz you're fucking interacting with it over the internet, how is it gonna do anything like that? If you dont want it to access your computer then just develop the mod on some other shitty device or better yet just use a VM
>>749521025>This one is 100% AI, I just prompt and give it references. when you say "give it references", what do you mean? Like, that creature in the webm, who made it? Claude? Did Claude model it from scratch, or from a reference picture, or is it an existing model you gave Claude to use?
>>749523384>2D hentai -> novelAIIs the new model a significant improvement? I was using novelAI a fair bit early this year but it still struggled a lot to maintain consistence and I couldn't get it to stop changing the appearance of characters when switching positions.
>>749518296Nuke India.
>>749518296Why specifically "AI" Game Dev General? Why not just Game Dev? Seems to be pushing something inorganically
Even though I'm not really pro-AI, shits fun to make
>>749523559Usually I get grok or GPT to make a 2D picture (spreadsheet style with different angles), how I get is depends: sometimes I just have a vague idea, sometimes I tell it 'I want it to look like that thing from that movie but with X and Y' and then I iterate with them, then once I get what I want, I shove it all in a reference folder and tell claude to model it, or maybe GPT, I can't remember if this specific one was started by gpt or claude (but they both worked on it), I didn't touch it once, I didn't open blender for it at any point, it/they made the animations, the textures, and the models. Then of course it requires some tardwrangling and good prompting from you, it fucked up the animations a couple times before we got them right.>>749523706I don't use it personally, but there's this guy browsing around that shared the folder of his waifu and he made it all on their new model and it looks very fucking good, completely different angles and positions etc. But if it's not good enough then you'll have to comfyUI up and figure it out, but that's a lot more time consuming (and you need the hardware for it).
>>749518296Why AI Game Dev General? Why not SI? Seems to be pushing something artificially
>>749519857you have to make ai turntable video first
>>749519431Is it really stealth marketing when it's obvious as fuck?
This thread smells like curry dumped in an open sewer.
>>749523794Because no one wants to see mess-around AI games in a normal game dev thread.
>>749524012I wouldn't mind it, but I guess I see your point.
only liberals call it AI
>tranny discord having a meltie againyou can keep whining, and remember: this is the worst AI will ever be, it will never be as bad as it is right now
>>749524118
ShatGPT is so fucking retarded compared to claude. Can't even do image analyze as its adamant that it needs gen the exact same image but worse in order to "analyze" it. Fag ALTMAN suicide when.
Opus 6 when? 5.5 is just too shit at making new assets
>>749521102dumbass
>>749524003I wish, but I recognize this kind of "writing style". It's fucking retarded boomers.
>>749521619>eglinFound the tankie.Communists deserve to be tortured and killed.Also I'm not even american, fuck israel too.
>>749524274Baby boomers in my life are weirdly super obsessed with AI, I don't know where it's coming from
>>749524205Astra looked crazy and its solving all the math problems, plus I hear the assistant is unreal. Its financially a dumpster fire though, all the AI is a bubble references somthing Open AI is doing. I figure they wont be around much longer, or be desperate and sell client data.Not that Im a doomer, they will just be bought from apple in the end.
>>749524350Weird combination of "fuck the younger generation", fascination with new thing, and all-too-common boomer laziness.
>>749524350Are they yay or nah on it?
>>749524404it's a meme, astra is 'okay' with creative tasks, but it's completely fucking retarded and shit at anything logical compared to opus, they're not in the same league, I just got done giving astra a 2h job for kinematics this morning and it completely fucked the models up, claude did the job in 20 minutes.
>>749524450They are SUPER into it, and weirdly believe whatever it says without double-checking.
>>749524350boomers are the ultimate cattle connsumer
>>749524404It's just a bad couple of weeks. Claude was sort in a similar spot when Astra came out as Opus 5 was fucking retarded. The main issue is everyone is releasing frontier models so quickly right now it's hard to keep up.
>>749524450NTA, but it's mixed. Some are so absorbed in it that their neurons are getting fried in real time, others are annoyed at all of the misinformation and bait being made with it.
>>749524428Also possibly the leaded gasoline fucked with their heads
>>749524515Astra is ass. It's basically a slower and way more costly Sonnet 5.5. OpenAI has no Opus equivalent at this point.
I'm trying to wrangle Claude to help me out with a Godot project. From what I understand, if it's a simple and universal problem Claude's got your back, but if it's a problem Claude doesn't encounter often, you're going to be wasting a massive amount of time getting AI to help you with it.But if you're trying to troubleshoot something with Claude for hours, then you're basically learning nothing about the problem versus how much you would learn if you tried to solve it yourself. Which means that if you ever encounter a problem claude CAN'T solve, you now have to deal with both all those hours wasted trying to get AI to solve it, plus just learning how to actually solve it from scratch.So I don't think AI is close to playing a major role in gamedev yet. At best it can handle 30% of the work.
>>749523296KekFunniest thing here is using grok
>>749524796>if it's a problem Claude doesn't encounter oftenNot exactly. It's more that there are problems it's not the best equipped to handle. You can absolutely have obscure problems it tackles flawlessly. You can also turn an unsolvable problem into a solvable one if you have it research solutions or frame it differently. Either that or you'll have to accomodate some alternative framework.The actual problem here is that you need to lay down these things at the beginning of your project plan and map feasibility. If you're changing things drastically mid-project, you're going to have to refactor a lot of shit. You shouldn't just randomly tell it to do a huge job without a plan.
>>749524796>pdepends on the game, Mecca Chameleon was 100% vibe coded and bought assets and made 5+ million dollars
>>749524796What is in your game that's never been done before and isn't documented?
I'm going to give this faggot so many jojo references and yakuza references. I want a yakuza 0 jojo world where I fight stand users and see a busty hotpants
>>749524984I didn't lay out ground rules at the start, but my current project is pretty fucking simple, it's just a top down 2D shoot-em up, but Claude is getting hard filtered by swapping UI scenes in Godot. Maybe it's because I'm on freecuck Sonnet instead of Opus but I wasted 2 hours trying to go back and forth with it.>>749525026>depends on the game, Mecca Chameleon was 100% vibe coded and bought assets and made 5+ million dollarsWhen people say a game was vibe-coded, what way do they mean?Like did they get AI to make the skeleton of the game, or do they just freeball it and ask AI for complex solutions once they get stuck?
>>749525034Are the models AI? Not too bad looking.
>>749524256"most usage pissrael"AHAHHAHA
>>749523384oh really novel ai? I remember using it wayyy back then after the ai dungeon drama.That being said like the other anon said, consistency would be nice. Plus, a model that works off line for free would be better.I didn't know claude could make engines, cool
>>749524256luddite bros... this correlates with IQ
I'm scared. The indie game market is 100% going to get flooded by AI in 2 years and it will be literally impossible to make money through games anymore
>>749525246Yeah, everyone used NovelAI for AI story generation back then, and it still has that, but it's way better for image generation now since other platforms are heavily censored. It has the best cloud-based uncensored image gen afaik. For creating stories you're probably better off with SillyTavern and an API key.
>>749525343that's fine, nobody wants you niggers in the industry anymore, it never should've been about making moneyif you don't want to make games because you want to make games, get fucked and go parasite another industry you stupid kike
>>749525343>in 2 yearslollmao evenAnd well, it's not like it isn't already 90% shovelware
>>749525343The market is already beyond flooded, nothing will change.The outstanding stuff will rise to the top eventually.Good visuals and presentation beat everything, AI can't help with that yet.
>>749525386>that's fine, nobody wants you niggers in the industry anymore, it never should've been about making moneyNigger you don't understand.How the fuck is anyone going to make money anymore? Programming was supposed to be safe. Gamedev was supposed to be safe. They are taking away every opportunity we have to get rich
>>749525445>it's okay for your hobby to be ruined, it was a way for me to get rich!!!shut the fuck up you fucking filth, get off this board, go do something else
>>749525439>Good visuals and presentation beat everything, AI can't help with that yet.Give it 2 years.One day we're gonna get a game with AI assets that looks "good enough", and then AI assets will be in literally every new game
>>749525445Learn a trade
>>749525343It's already starting to get flooded with it. There were a bunch of dudes shitting out AI-gen clones of that "clean up the library" game like a couple weeks ago, and they'll keep doing it. You will see an "indie game crash" sometime.
>>749525518Probably less than 2 years at the current pace. I'd wager it on one. You can already get a lot of shit done in that regard, it's just expensive and sometimes requires some additional touches.
>>749525540Wasn't that also true for the needle in a haystack game? Like dozens of clones immediately
>>7495251802D to 3D then meshy to make the model
It's interesting to see the proompters lack of foresight. An excess of games isn't going to lead to anything good, so have fun "getting rich".
>>749525631Steam is already bloated with shovelware and garbage asset flips, no one really cares. I doubt anyone here is doing this to make money.
>>749525616Yeah, and all made with AI.Of course, it helps that the original game isn't that complex (or even that original), so it's easier to copy.
>>749525386yeah the ideal gamedev should be homeless with no computer and live off a foodbank, only then is it really art. kill yourself retard
>>749525726Yes, everyone should be poor and unemployed just like me.
>>749525726>please please please give me money I DESERVE IT!!!hahahahano
>>749524307protip: communists don't actually exist.It's all socialism with a cool label but the same "daddy government do everything for me because i'm too retarded to not have parents doing everything".You can destroy any of em with "cool? what commune are you living in? do you have a plan to move to one right?"
>>749525518the core issue with slop, is millions of people are all sourcing the same github repos and sense of aesthetics.The AAA continually go through this issue and it's only gotten worse since gen 7.Devs using Unity went through this, and now people have UE5 fatigue. Sloppers are even worse off with expediting this for their pool of resources, and are delusional if they think it won't happen to them.
>>749525768Have fun playing only your slop then.
>>749525763not interested>>749525768not interested (in your retardation)
What's the best stack to purely vibe code a game?
>>749525518I don't doubt it will happen eventually, but until AI is so good that it can 100% replace humans in most aspects it won't be able to match the vibes and artstyles that a skilled and slightly schizo artists can produce.
>>749525631>>749525540It's so disheartening. I've always wanted to make my virtual pet tower defense game and I would never publish anything I didn't think was fun or good. Hell I wouldn't publish anything with AI art or music, but every platform is going to be flooded with lazy, ripoff AI slop. It's such a shame. There probably will be some good AI coded games. I hope I can develop mine into something fun and interesting, but I know this technology is going to shit up the industry worse than it already is.
>>749525812>everything you like is slopDid AI made you this response?
>>749525812>have fun making the games you've wanted to make instead of relying on mutts and seeing debra wilson in every gamesoh no, please! anything but this!!!! please nooooo!!!!>>749525813that's... fine?I wasn't asking you to be interested you retard, I was merely making fun of you and your failed ideology, at the end of the day I'm getting what I want, and you're not
>>749525843Dude look at what happened with Walmart killing off independent stores. You don't need to be "professional quality". You just need to be good enough that people will buy your cheaper version over the expensive (but better) one
>>749525781>Sloppers are even worse off with expediting this for their pool of resources, and are delusional if they think it won't happen to them.Made worse with AI being prone to "self-cannibalism", like what image generation keeps going through over and over again.
>>749525842obsidian -> write GDD -> claude code -> 'claude build this game'
>>749525716great, now both aaa and indie can crash and we can wipe the slate clean
>>749524256so you understand this is for one specific ai model right?
>>749525886yes I'm not surprised a roach like you views a race to the bottom as what you want, in the end the only way you can get what you desire is to drag the world down to your reprehensible level
Any other game devs ITT reconsidering their current plans/career?I feel like I can't compete with vibe-coded games that Claude / ChatGPT can put together immediately. What the fuck are we meant to do in this situation?
>>749525960>i-it's a slippery slope!!! you'll see!!! it will happen!!! the bubble, it will pop one day!!!!!right
>>749526001what slope are you even talking about? there are endless ai slop clones made by third worlders like you right now; you've already gotten what you want, isn't that what you said?
>>749525705It's probably going to lead to the same issue that Suno has where they desperately want to be a big platform where everyone shares and engages with each other but 99% of the user simply doesn't. I imagine for a company like Claude where a scenario that most people just refuse to engage or collaborate with one another would be a fucking nightmare to them.
>>749525980hey shill, link some slop on steam actually worth buying
>>749525886>AI keeps seeing Debra Wilson in the games it's ripping shit from>every genned game ends up having Debra Wilson in it somewhere, just like how Charlie Kirk haunts all image and video generation
>>749525361oh I already have sillytavern since that has been my go-to fap machine for many years now lmaoThose Opus days were like crack to my systemAs for image gen yeah I'll have to give it ago then. Though I often wonder what those people on twitter or r34 use that makes it look so good.
>>749526059I believe your skin is too melaninated for your brain to be able to understand the intricacies of what the AI means for the industry, literally all you're doing right now is regurgitating whatever slop you read on reddit or while you were doomscrolling on whatever social media ruined your brain
have been using claude opus 5.5 to translate games:- gunparade march- maerchen club- tokimeki memorial gbshits actually playable too.
>>749526132>retard that regurgitates whatever Sam Altman and Anthropic tells him is accusing others of regurgitating info
>>749526132nah it's fine, enjoy your stated desire; for the only people able to afford to work on videogames to be third worlders like yourself that can live off one united states dollar a day. wouldn't want anyone making any money off of it after all.
>>749526141oh fuck, pop'n'tanks!
>>749526097Kek
>>749526201>you're a third worlder because... you don't want to make money!holy fuck, what happened to your brain bro, where is it?why can't you even think about what you're saying? you don't have to press that submit button, you DON'T, you can think about it first, trust me, everyone will win if you do that>>749526191>sam altman told you that video games are full of parasites that shouldn't be in the industry because they just want moneydamn I didn't know they were that fucking based???I'm getting another max subscription, thanks bro
>>749526201This but unironically.
>>749525889Walmart is not an experience people seek out, it's litteraly just convenience
>>749521024>manager has to tard wrangle underperforming dev while flattering his ego with liesthis is why programmers are being replaced with bots
>>749522068>>749522334install claude code or omp or t3.
I'm building an Arknights multiplayer fangame centered around vehicular combat with a landship builder
>>749526639just make it a fucking tower defense you fuck
>>749526671But i want to fulfill my custom landship autismo
>>749523446What's wrong with giving it access to your PC anyway? Surely they've fixed it deleting your entire drive by now?
>>749525274it doesn't
>>749518389I have a full original game in progress.>>749525343Should’ve gotten something more valuable to gamers than social clout Just to get to make a game - no matter how bad - then.>>749525960This is your metaphor for experiencing a level playing field of merit with no gatekeeping people outside of your city living experience.
>>749518296>Aislaves when AI arrives : ARTISTS BTFO YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE MY SHIT NO I CAN DO IT>AI slaves merely 2 years later : OK WHY DON'T YOU MAKE GAMES FOR ME AIBROS YOU MUST DO WHAT I WANT I DEFENDED YOU OKthe problem was never the tool, it's you, slave.
>>749518691why lie about it
>>749518575Degrees only exist to prove you're not retarded. Most people don't end up working in their chosen field. You get the degree you can qualify for, not the one you think will get you a job.It used to be that a high school diploma served this purpose but that was before No Child Left Behind. It's well-known that recruiters will just throw every application without a degree in the trash immediately as the first filter to get rid of the chaff.I'd still go for a CS degree today, in fact I'd choose it deliberately because it's so easy to cheat.
>>749518296https://claude.ai/artifact/PTXAYc8LBq92Ck4jaC9NuFI've been working on this balatro rip-off.It's a bit bloated right now, I'm working on a balance pass to get rid of some of the duds later.It started as just a test but I had fun with it and I like the dinky tunes Clod made.
>>749519494>>749519526>>749520743
>>749518389Its not. Every AI recomp ive seen release has had serious issues that still havent been resolved. Its simple, if you dont understand how the code works, you cant debug it.
>>749528394Neat, the UI is a little text heavy, but I'm impressed with the general aesthetic you have going here
>>749528394typical "infinite creativity" of an indian.
>>749528606I asked clod to "make things more understandable for first time players" and it shitted descriptions everywhere. I kind of got used to it, but I'll make a note to address it later.
>>749518296Next /v/3 is going to be the funniest thing this shithole might be witnessing for a while, with at least a dozen sloppa vibecoders presenting "their" work in thereIt's going to be a humiliation ritual for either the sloppers or the regular programmers with no in-between case, and I'll be there for the lulz either way
I've actually been using claude cowork, not claude code. Is there any reason to use code? From my understanding it is the same models underneath, and I want it to touch more than just code anyways, since it is doing scene mockups in unity for me.>>749518389I have coding experience, so I do know where I can see things becoming a bad architectural design further down the road and course correct claude, but without personally doing any coding I have made a vertical slice of a legends of grimrock style game with my own personal twists to it with the $20 plan in 2 days. The artwork/sound/story/etc is not there yet, but mechanically this already does everything grimrock does and more
>>749518389you may require knowledge and experience with some basic software engineering concepts to steer it correctly because it likes small bespoke solutions. helps to know what makes things scalable, I occasionally end up in an actual debate with claude about implementations, sometimes im wrong and sometimes its wrong. but actually sitting down and grinding out syntax all day is a completely gone thing of the past now and research is trivialized>>749518691kek I had o5.5 do multiple hours worth of work today and it pushed my $20 tier 5 hour limit like 10%. sounds like they’re a bunch of retards who dont know how to use their computers. oh wait it already sounded like that when you said /g/
>>749528767ding DINGDINGDINGDING, DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!
>>749529545There's pros and cons, the pros of cowork is the UI and obviously the fact that he does it all in the cloud, meaning you can do whatever you want with your PC while it works.But with code, in case you need to, say, optimize the game and see how it runs on your PC, cowork can't do that, cowork also can't just go into different folders easily (say you want to tell him 'take the pictures from that folder as reference'), you'll have to zip it and send it to cowork, etc etc. Just try code and you'll quickly understand when to use one and when to use the other.
All I've been doing is working on translating old games that were never brought over and hacking over their text display systems to work with english.
anyone who claims this shit is working well for them are either A. not looking at the code or even mildy concerned about understanding it or B. have really shallow ideas
>>749530140if it works it works>shallow ideasthat's the average indie dev tho
>>749530140oh no, not an appeal to emotions! my weakness!!are you a woman?
>>749530140To be, understanding is wholly unnecessary if it works. If a black box outputs what you want every time, then there's no issues. I'm not super thrilled that the market is going to be flooded with even more dogshit because of nine billion jeets are flooding steam, but needing to know the code only matters if you can't get the AI to fix your problems.
>>749530250I am now, thanks for affirming :)
>>749530189it doesnt work when you cant do anything with the code you get. good luck asking clod every single time you need to shift text 1 pixel over
How the fuck can i convert a 2d image to 3d?I tried tripo and it suckedI tried 6.1 sol with blender and it suckedWhat do
>>749530287>good luck asking clod every single time you need to shift text 1 pixel overskill issue
>>749530271>but needing to know the code only matters if you can't get the AI to fix your problemsexactly. you and the other three immediate coping responses is enough for me to know you vibeshitters are all just in denial
>>749530334cope
>>749530356Ai can fix itAi is writing operating systems nowA game is easy
>>749530287>claude give me a slider for every parameter
>>749518601>It's literally the "ideas guy" machineideas guys are having a lot of shit ideas, considering they've just been copying and modding games that have already been made
I'm gonna make a video game with cool parkour where you run around getting food and making low poly critter bitches extremely obese.The model you see here was slopped up by AI (I did the concept art and it took like a dozen iterations to get right).
>>749518664where's the DOUG button
>>749530554How did you get the model made?Did you use the blender mcp or what?
>>749530140You're living in the past (1-2 months ago), old man. We're now using what used to be military grade unobtainium for pennies.
>>749530140>ai was bad so its always badLuddites are a weird bunch
>>749523138Imagine you want to make an economic management game like Tropico. Claude can’t do that for shit it over or under thinks
>>749530680>hey claude can you make a low poly model for me of [this design]>yes my liege, I'll write a Blender script that generates it for youPer Claude's slop:>No Blender MCP. Everything ran through Blender's command line in headless mode: I wrote a Python script and ran [a command], which builds the model and exports it with no window or UI involved.
>>749530717>>749530771is this >>749530287 wrong thoif you have to prooooompt AI every time you have a flaw in your game thats eventually going to be less efficient than just learning how to do all that shit yourself
>>749518296>thread with the word GENERAL in the OP somehow hasn't been deleted and has a triple digit post count because 4chan's staff are taking kickbacks from the slop purveyors.Genuinely did not think I could be more disappointed by this fucking website, but here we are.
>>749530829Depends on the engineOn unity i just have serial shit exposed i can tweakAnd again this shit is cheap as fuck and fast now
>>749530869feel free to leave anytime
>>749530915it's in-engine?
I’m getting a bit smarter. I had Claude make me a custom pixel editor for my 2d game and after designing a couple of sprites I was like “fuck this” and had Claude make the editor basically so the art. I have to set shapes and depth and say where the light source is and specify the color family but then that tool just fuwhoops the rest of the sprite.
>>749530818God damn clodI tried the same method to create a cyberpunk waifu and sol 6.1 failed badlyMaybe the low poly helps
>>749530946What's the source? You giving it reference sheets? Hand-drawn or just stuff you find on google?
>>749530941Yes?It can also just modify scripts/files in your project folder
>>749530829But I don't prompt AI to fix minor stuff I'm a software developer. Also, real vibe coders know to throw output away and never make small tweaks. This can fuck up your codebase/context window.
>>749518296>>749530869You must understand, the shitters are afraid and in a dire need of money, so shilling and corruption will continue undisturbed until bubble is sound again
These mods are getting crazy.
>>749531056So you just queue up a big list of changes and proooooompt a bunch of big stuff like new systems all at once? is that the meta?
>>749531083imagine if you could actually do this in the game back then that would have been so crazy
>>749531056>small tweaks>context window.You do that in side chats>anon doesn't know about side chats
>>749528418dumb Riko poster
>>749530829yes. and a general lack of insight and understanding of what is possible that WILL limit the games design.
>>749524307I heard a good point from a vid I listened to at work, why do these people hate the freedom A.I. provides to break free from corporate and government overreach? Isn't this what they want?The conclusion was that they're just mentally ill, it's bafflingWhat I've seen this past week or so has pushed me off the fence into observing where things are going because the competency needed to do what Claude is doing is mind blowing
>>749531105Yes, and the quickest way to get such a doc is to prompt it also.>>749531146It was more about preventing code comments which say stuff like "Never ever do Xyz, anon threw a melty when I did it last time" which I tends to inject when you change course. Which also gets into your context windows.
>>749525343>>749525726>>749525445cope, modern games are slop shit from a goyim's butt
>>749531243No joke. Gpt 6 and above models are clearly well beyond most humans now
I've wanted a maplestory clone that wasn't a gacha or online or super grindy and it's finally the time to make it. The closest thing I've played so far was Skul the Hero Slayer, but that was a rogue lite and it was too hard for me
I have Claude working 24/7 on balancing and adding skills to my H battler game.
>Yes. I think it's now reasonable to say that the top LLMs are at or beyond the average adult in many important cognitive abilities, and probably ahead overall on text-based intellectual tasks.Even gpt states that it is beyond the average human nowIts over
>/agdg/>dramafagging and fygoonposting>/aidg/>People actually posting progress and posting links to play their slop gamesI don't like where this is going...
Paying to prompt is like paying to pirate
>>749531715what the fuck that looks like it could be a real game>girl has 5 fingers
>>749525184>pissraelreddit lingokys muhamad
>>749531083This isn't AI! This actually from Aggressive Inline for the Gamecube which includes Dante as a playable character!
>>749532402I have Claude proompting the images and inserting them. It's fully automatic, so the QA is poor but it just werkz.
>>749532342cringe
>>749518296kill saars.FUCK YOUR AI TRAS
>>749532342I'd run local if I could afford a GPU.
>>749532342where's your game?
>>749525980Indies can still make it
>>749532342The prices won't last forever, there's just no way. If you aren't paying for the top models right now you are missing out, because they are gonna rug pull once the losers die off. Whichever company can outlast the money drain they currently have will eventually 100x the cost and the AI wonderland will end. The amount of work I get done with the $20 claude plan would probably have cost me $30k five years ago for real people
>>749518664>I made this
>>749518601I mean, as someone who usually despises ai, this shit looks pretty cool. I feel like for modding at least this has potential.
>>749530554Kill me nigga, it does animations without a hitch. That fat dude in Pallet Town was right, technology really is incredible.
>>749525343>100% going to get flooded by AINatural progressionUnity asset flips>AI art VN spam>AI game spamNext fest is going to be kino
>>749532907Haha, funny. Until you realize soon the rift between the ultra rich and the rest is going to be completely solidified where you will not be able to bridge it no matter what. A revolution is made impossible thanks to complete AI surveillance, and climbing up with work and luck is impossible because the rich will have better access to AI tools that at a whim can steal literally everything you did, not only steal it, they can improve on it. And if you are not wealthy already, you won't be able to afford said tools.
And just like that, the really gay jerkoff "culture" of AIslop threads returns. Great.
>>749532264Give it time, all generals devolve with no exceptions
>Thread with full on "general" title is still up on modern /v/Regardless of my own thoughts on AI (I've been both called a slopper and a luddite), this shit is inorganic at this point.
>>749518296>>749518481>>749519494>>749519526>>749519630>>749520167>>749520127>May I play it?>No.
>>749531243>freedom A.I. provides to break free from corporate and government overreachoh the fucking irony
>>749533071>Until you realize soon the rift between the ultra rich and the rest is going to be completely solidified where you will not be able to bridge it no matter what.I was reading about the Middle Ages the other day, and out of curiosity tried to find out how difficult it would be for a peasant to gain his freedom and work his way up the ranks. Basically, it was almost impossible. Somehow, I feel like we all took the social mobility of our current era for granted, and the era when an average Joe can just grit his teeth for 5 years and make millions of dollars is coming to an end. I feel like I have been a retard for not being more ambitious & hard working, because by 2030 a lot of the opportunities we have now will just be gone
>>749532813inference is cheap, openai/anthropic's expenses are in massive insane training runs and infrastructure buildout. Yeah things would have to get way more expensive if they want to recoup their investment but there's no way in hell they will, as long as open weight models are only a few months behind sota they can't do anything to force people to pay those prices. If GLM 6.7 is as good as Opus 5.5 and doesn't cost any more no one will be willing to pay 100x for GPT8 or whatever.That's why they're all in on RSI, either they get so far ahead so fast that a few months lead is enough to capture most of the world economy or they're fucked.
>>749528394>>749528606>>749529038A good amount of the text has been cut down on, and the layout of some screens has been re-done.
>>749533119I'll have a demo for the robot game probably within the next 30 days, the fps is still way too early stage for anything like that. I still need to find a sound guy, because AI is kinda meh about sounds and music still and I'm pretty autistic about sounds, so that can potentially take a little bit of time.
>>749533405AI is actually not bad at giving suggestions for improving sounds thoughJust tell it what you're going for and it often knows how to get there
>>749522334install claude code on vs code you caveman
>have been vibeslopping an anime female boxing game cause that's my fetish>not sure I should show since it's kinda embarassing I did it all in Sonnet and I'm pretty impressed to the point I'm considering an Opus subscription, how good is Opus compared to Sonnet?
>>749533606what's your workflow? i'm also a sonnet poorfag and I just keep asking it for scripts in paragraphs. this is probably really inefficient though
>>749518296>please be to buy the needful sarFuck off latrine dodger
>>749533010what the fuck i wasted tons of credits just yesterday trying to get faggot waste of electricity codex to make a 3d model and it kept making total dogshit even with references of different angles like you showed
>>749531715what the fuck does 円は閉めた mean
>>749533606Sonnet is far from bad; do you have to tardwrangle a lot?Do you notice a lot of 'what the fuck is this, why did you do it this way?'? If not, then sonnet is fine, sonnet/sol are fine for like 80% of gamedev honestly, opus is just smarter when you need it for very complex tasks, I don't think a boxing game requires anything crazy like, say, an RTS or needing optimizations like an open world game does.
>>749533606https://copy-frost-cm90c.ship.placehttps://living-quince-ngpsb.ship.place>>749533669I started telling it to make a model with a bunch of basic animation, then to change the model to get an opponent, then I slowly told it to fix all the animation I needed, then I told it to turn it into an actual game, then I told it to kept tuning the numbers (the fight last too short, the opponent is too easy, that sort of shit) then I told it to add features slowly and slowly
>>749533696codex is a meme yeah, claude is the way (for now)
>>749518481Took you two days to make dogshit?
Yay, youtube and socials weren't enough, now we're bound to see a flood of ai crap nobody cares about on steam too
to the people that use AI with unreal blueprint do you just let it do its thing and never touch it yourself?because i made a lockon system without ai and it was working fine so i asked ai if it can improved, ai immediately found a bug in a specfic situation and i tested to see if it's true and ai was right so i told the ai to fix it and it got fixed but it added a shit ton of nodes and functions that it will be a struggle to modify it myself so at this point should i just tell AI the mechanics and system i want and never look at the code myself just test only? right now i'm stuck between the 2>do the coding myself but it's inferior and slower but at least if there's a major problem i will know what to do or>let ai do it but i will know fuck all and will have to rely on it all the time
>>749533696I hand-drew the eyes and I had to iterate a dozen times to get what I wanted, sorry if I gave the wrong impression.And yeah Claude is way better. I'm an artist by trade and it's kinda over desu.
>>749533752>Sonnet is far from bad; do you have to tardwrangle a lot?Not him, but I've been learning Godot with heavy usage of Sonnet90% of the time it just executes the goal perfectly. The other 10% is when you have something that needs a lot of precise human control (like pixel-art assets or fine-tuning movement physics to feel good). Though I have run into a problem where Sonnet has no fucking idea what's going on, and it's a really basic problem too. (Swapping between 2 Control nodes in a 2D Godot game in a smooth interpolation)
>>749533772>https://copy-frost-cm90c.ship.placeOddly soulful
>>749520167>nobody uses api tokensBusinesses do, because even a $200 sub lasts like a week if you're doing any serious work (not to mention having to stop and wait for your next 5hr window is a complete dealbreaker for anyone who's not a hobbyist).
>>749534195read the rest of the post anon
>>749533772>>749533928yeah it's not too bad, maybe you could try improving the models and then add wounds/bruises/blood for the ryona fags
>>749522334You're using a cloud session, you mong. You have to start a local one if you want the AI to directly interact with your PC.
>>749525980Personally, as a white male programmer, I'm going to kill myself to make room for more Indians and Africans in my country. This is what our overlords want after all, and they know what is best for us.
are are fags making entire full games in 1 shot and saying it would cost $999999? is it just a $100 monthly sub that lets you use it infinitely or what the fuck is happening? It seems like for me it takes an entire day to get 1 little thing done if I'm lucky but I'm using chatgpt $20 a month sub kek. what the fuck should I be doing if I want to finish my game within a year?
>>749534435at least kill some shitskins before you go out, anon
>>749534482No, the brown people are the future of western countries. I will not let any harm come to them
>>749534508You'll be welcome in the New World Order if you learn to behave like your Indian aryan masters. You can start my pooping outside and wiping with your hands
>>749534439Are you using codex?
>>749534676yes I just don't see how people are doing shit so quickly. maybe it's because I'm not just saying "make league of legends now with no mistakes" but designing my own game one step at a time.
>>749534250There's already blood and bruises for ryonafags because I'm a ryonafagAnd the second link was my attempt at improving the models, so any suggestions regarding that? I even tried importing a model from Koikatsu but it came out all weird looking
ive been using chatgpt is claude really better
>>749533752I've had it fuck up the animation, the models, and even introducing game crashing bug but you go "ehy Claude you fucked up" and the next iteration is good,I like tardwrangling it
>>749534775Hard to say, depends on your codebase and goalsI am slopping an OS now and its taking way longer than any of my gamesI wouod suggest trying out the 20 dollar claude plan. I hear it mogs gpt 20 now
>>749534872Much so, and it'll cost you far less for more usage
wow amazing I'm so ready to see another /v/ AI general with the same 15 people posting hilarious innovative stuff as what if wario was in gta ahah
>>749534872In some waysOthers noJust try it. You got 20 bucks to waste
>>749534912Looks like I gotta cough up $20 then
>>749524307>Communists deserve to be tortured and killed.based
>>749534887I tried it when fable 5 came out and fable 5 was definitely good but the usage would run out after a couple prompts. so I'd maybe get one thing working after using all my usage. but gpt and claude have updated a few times since then but it really does seem like claude is better looking at it from a codex user.
>>749531243>why do these people hate the freedom A.I. provides to break free from corporate and government overreach?they're hypocrites man, they hate corporations and billionaires but they love having industry jobs, they just virtue signal and have 0 real values or convictions
>>749534974Real world tests still put codex ahead. Especially for speedClaude makes everything take forever
somehow it doesn't feel right to proooompt out an entire gamenot for moral or ethical reasons but it would probably suck dick to play and require so much manual tweaking to game physics, enemy AI, art assets etc that you aren't saving as much time as you think.
I said make it look and play like the Konami X-Men arcade game not some fake Atari 2600 game you'd see in some cartoon.
>>749535241Without prompting the game would never get madeThus prompting is infinitely fastee
>>749535328That said it surprisingly understood the mutant powers from the X-Men arcade game where you take damage from using them.
>>749530295meshy
>>749535241>you aren't saving as much time as you think.I'm too retarded to make the game I'm making by myself so I'm saving infinite hours by making it even possible.
>>749535424Is it that much better than tripo?I'll try it tonight
>>749535373>>749535441Have you guys never split the workload and have AI do some of the shit while you handle the rest?I don't get why more people don't do this
>>749535420using a super move at the cost of life/health is a typical staple of old beat em up games like that.
>>749535447That's what I use
>>749535467yeah I do what I can
>>749535483Ah true but they were just fun to spam in the X-Men game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkqZ45B9M0Y
>>749530554>>749533010>>749533857What engine?
How can the PS5 Wolverine game compete?
>>749535420>>749535727I hate the graphics it tries to make so fucking much
>>749518296Threads like these give proof that AI developers are real developers, because it's full of a bunch of lazy fucks that have no excuses for their work to be doneNewsflash bozos, a WIP is only interesting because the end result wasn't a forgone conclusion. It's all about the question of "why isn't it done yet/why isn't it better." Before, the answer was "because it takes a long time and is heavily dependent on the dev's skillset to navigate obstacles." Now, the answer is "because the fag uploading it couldn't wait another day for it to actually look good instead of garbage, and refuses to spend enough tokens or sub to higher tiers," as the AI is otherwise guaranteed to do well if it's given meager amounts of time and money.Basically, any WIP is just putting a spotlight on not your work but instead how you're impatient and poor, and to bring such a thing to the table is an insult. Finish your fucking work before you dare put it on my plate, faggots. Know your place as a devtroon.
>>749535241Unless your games is Flappy Bird, it's literally not possible to describe every feature and mechanic of a game in a single prompt.
>>749535806I'd have better luck just downloading sprite sheets of the Capcom fighting games and telling it hey you dumb fuck stop trying and use these instead.
if i wanted to edit outfit mods for games on ue4/5 and the re engine, what method would be best?i was initially going to just use opus with blender mcp, but now i'm not so sure if there is a less dumb way to do it. apparently ai is still not very good at sculpting?
>>749518296https://mangacoin.org/I have a couple. Click games in the top bar....I was going to flesh out the games with actual story but as soon as I built a working prototype I lost all will to create content. I feel like it's sapping my soul
What skills or prompt are people using to decomp games?
>>749521102>>749524256brown people use AI to scam senior citizens. White people use AI to create actually useful stuff
>>749524307Ironic, since this tech is the fulfillment of the Marxist dogma>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
>>749532907third panel, right hand
>>749535996@grok decomp game
I'm too lazyThere could be an AI that would make my perfect dream game with a single prompt and I still wouldn't do it
>>749527492>experiencing a level playing field of merit with no gatekeeping peopleYou were never being gatekept you utter retard. No one said "you can't make games because you don't deserve to." They simply said learn the skills to make it yourself. You then thought they were saying "WE HATE YOU AND DON'T WANT YOU HERE" for some retarded reason. No one said don't make your dream game. They said learn the skills because others aren't going to do it for you, especially for free.
>>749535938>as soon as I built a working prototype I lost all will to create content. I feel like it's sapping my soulWhat is this phenomenon called?
>>749536340nta, and I don't really care about your opinion, because here I am making my dream gamesoops, sucks for you I guess
>>749518389100% but you will lack polish. Humans are best at polish.
>>749536629>claude polish this for me
>>749535604Some flavor of bespoke C++/OpenGL/SDL engine.I'm just prompting whatever the fuck right now, god this is so scuffed yet so fun. I vibed in the entire player controller from a parkour game I like, Vholume, and it effortlessly added it in.
>>749536629>buys a polishing machine
>>749523393i want to play this.... please anon.
>>749518691Skill issue. The bigger the chunks the worse the output. 200 lines work smooth. Peak times usually coastal us and India have worse output. Ai is fantastic, you just can't buy/afford more ram. The highest subscription usually gives you highest ram.
AI and Claude got me back into making games. I made a game 14 years ago and it was a slog. It took four years to finish. I did finish it, but I also said "never again." In August I decided to make a game again after an idea came to me in a dream and I feel like I've made more progress in two months than what would have taken a year back in my first game.
>>749518389
>>749536708>Some flavor of bespoke C++/OpenGL/SDL engine.
>>749536629lack of polish = sovl
>>749536870Ask Claude it'll tell you what that means.For something very very basic (i.e., just a first person game platforming on boxes with model import), it doesn't need Unreal or Unity. Here's all the source files. Claude can set something up probably easier in those but I just prefer it engine-less cuz I'm a freak.
>>749536043>White people use AI to create actually useful stuffwhere is it
id share my claude game here, but it actually has the potential to get incredibly popular, and id rather not deal with the fallout that comes with ai games getting big. you will see it within the next few months on steam, but you will not know it's from me.
>>749537061nobody is going to care about your slopped shit
>>749537061Dragon washing already came out
>>749537061If I can get claude to make a 3d model like the anon here, I'm also going to be making something
>>749536741>The bigger the chunks the worse the output. 200 lines work smooth.what does this mean
where do i make requests?anons, i want a recomp of the original snes tactics ogre
>>749536708Are you using Opus or Sonnet anon? Did Opus make the model? Can you explain better how the model was made? Did it make it in one shot or did you ask multiple runs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMg4ux-QIcQBeen developing a JRPG roguelike extraction kind of game, the characters auto attack each other, you have the ability to parry, and use cooldowns, certain abilities can interrupt or slow the enemy based on you're build. You fight through a dungeon with various rooms that can be battles, elites, mini bosses, treasure, shrines, events, or special sparkling versions of enemies. You collect loot and have the option to extract with it. Every ascent you start from lvl 1 and level up and allocate skill points, you also get fruit which act like relics from slay the spire/ risk of rain, mostly passive effects that can be run changing. All using a DND system thats scaled up into the 30s because the idea is you are going to be surpassing gods in power level by the end of the run. You fight through a dungeon based on the tree of life, Fallen angels and they're ilk are the enemies. Game needs alot of work, have to fix animations, only 2 heros/classes in the game so far, first is the Paladin, then heres a picture of the Empress who is like a warlock essentially.
>>749537262He said it took him multiple tries>>749530554
>>749537281looks like dogshitit looks unironically worse than something with very basic 3D models like >>749533772don't use chatgpt for 2D anime shit
>>749537262Opus 5.5, it did, and yeah just see >>749537320. I'm an ARTIST like I said so I have the eye to know what works and what doesn't.Unfortunately it struggles with my absurd, retarded demands to make the creature large. Anatomy is very fucked at the bigger sizes.Nothing a dozen more iterations couldn't fix perhaps...
>>749537391nta but i hope you dont end up giving up on this id pay for what youre trying to make
>>749537391I wonder if I can get a better boxing girl by asking it to do the model in blender and then import it in JavaScript rather than to create the model directly in JavaScript, imma going to try that
>>749525980My problem isn't that i can't compete but visibility is shrinking.If you make a hearfelt game in a pool of 1.000 is cool to know someone might discover it eventually even unprompted while looking at recomendations or tags.But when your game you put years into is in a pool of 1.000.000.000 AI generated slop you start to feel like you can't make indirect connections with real people anymore.It's less about i want money for my game and more "the feelings i put in my game can't be seen anymore".
>>749518389I've already made multiple mods for Elden Ring and FFXIV
>>749537538just invest in marketing and stop believing in word of mouth magiceven an ad in something like Indie Live Expo will put you miles ahead of any slop with no marketing whatsoever
>>749530818>>749537391Oh also you suggest to give it a reference from multiple angles correct? I'm going to have ChatGPT slop me that
I need a writer for my AI game. I'd use chatgpt but it's a word puzzle game, and chatgpt is blind to any nuance I'm looking for.if anyone who isn't retarded wants a paid, flexible, easy writing gig, let me know.
>>749527528It's not a lie, AIs at this point can spit out something that works but not have the necessary cohesion for a bigger project and write code as a one-off thing that can't be well integrated with the rest.If you're ever going to use AI just have it as something that gives you ideas on how to implement stuff and make some working modules to prototype things with.
>>749537675>not have the necessary cohesion for a bigger projectjust use openspec
>>749537612>some rich nigga with connections rips your concept off and shills it to his streamer buddies since technical skill isn't a barrier anymoreWhat now?
>>749537816lol
>>749537636how much money
>>749535727>2000s era flash games, home
I'm just making a human retopo tool for claude atm. It's in two parts and an algo to find landmarks this has been done before the slider thing but you could probably do this with a paid tool I know there's a few out there but who knows what the topology on those models look like. At any rate this would have taken me a month at least to do all the shape keys and claude does it in a few seconds it's pretty insane.
>>749538887>0:23perfection
>>749537281graphics remind me of odin sphere slightly but the gameplay looks like janky dogshit some kid made in flash 3 in the late 90s
>>749537636sure, drop me a (You) at writinggig@cock.li
>>749537636I can't imagine anything as demoralizing as writing for an AI game that everyone will assume used AI for everything. You had better hope the money is good.
>>749537129Small tasks are easily done with no errors.>>749536952>>749536724Skip the machine>>749536679Claude, skip that, just deliver sovl instead>>749537129To clarify, instead of ordering 1500ibes of code and have it fail 99% of the time, try to pseudo code the program into subroutines and it'll be done in minutes rather than 2 weeks or 3 days if you are a pro.
>>749518389True but timelines vary wildly. If you spend a few weeks learning the basics, maybe pick a game engine, make a few practice games you can make some basic games just vibe coding between Claude and GPT, but it's going to be a nightmare especially if you don't know how to use ai.ple art tools. You basically will have a neat Frogger or Pokemon clone after 2 months of bullshit.Also forget the 2p dollar subscription if you intend to vibe code, 100 dollars a month is barely usable.
>>749518575We should have become doctors or masseuses
>>749539636>subroutineswut
>>749539820should've took a caregiving course1. nobody cares about old and dying people2. but they care enough to provide 'care' for them so they're not seen as shitty relativesi could be playing mario kart with some ww2 vet, but i decided that tech was the futurewell it is
>>749518296
>>749525343>The indie game market is 100% going to get flooded by AI in 2 years and it will be literally impossible to make money through games anymoreIt is already is flooded by AI right now. It will be completly death by 2027. >it will be literally impossible to make money through games anymoreYeah but retard bro with his millionare ideas that he always lacked skill to do thinks uploading slop to the steam store will get him on track. The few people that still do games for the creative process or to suffer the progress will be completly eradicated. I hope this kills the gaming industry as a whole, we need a complete crash. AI is fueled by petty people and bitterness, abhorrent
>>749539937Never happened. Gen3 already cut education 30% bachelor masters that is. Gen6 can cut it 90%. This isn't the ceiling, yet.
>>749527942>I'd still go for a CS degree today, in fact I'd choose it deliberately because it's so easy to cheat.Sounds like these will eventually become worthless for the same reason why high school diplomas are.
>>749537038https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00488-3https://news.berkeley.edu/2026/09/09/new-ai-model-for-dna-learns-from-evolution-to-unlock-secrets-of-the-human-genome/https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/01/health/ai-breast-cancer-detection/
>>749539937why didn't you draw this by hand? Have you learned nothing?
>>749537061>releasing next to gtaYikes
>>749522334>claude hack into my computer and compile my skyrim mod
>>749539937iktf
>>749539893Caregiver sucks ass, so much shit and piss.
>>749537061AI games on Steam do worse than real games. You're playing the same slot machine with worse odds.
>>749518296>For $20-$100/month you could literally be making the game you've always wanted to without needing to know coding.
>omg this is a revolution, Söy Söyer, the dev from Commiefornia must be getting ready to sleep on the streets!>Haha video game companies are going to get bankrupt!>look at that crazy sloppa mod with Mario on a scateboard in Skyrim I made!You retards remind me about "artists are done for" fags from 4 years ago. Where is all that AI-generated "content" now? Right, it is nowhere, rightfully called slop and universally despised.AI is just a sophisticated autocomplete and nothing more. Not that different from pressing TAB in Linux terminal. You have to know how the game actually works, AI just assists you and makes your job easier.t. Dev
>>749541295coding is the hardest and most boring part of gamedev, good thing we can cut that shit out and focus on fun stuff like making the artwork
>>749541298>larping turdieAI is so fucking good holy shit
>>749541370Sounds like you don't enjoy games. Make cartoons instead.
>>749541416>oh you don't like making dishes? stop cooking
>>749518389It really depends on what you do with it. Either a lot of people in these threads haven't used it themselves, or they're being very disingenuous. You can easily run into usage limits while still being left with a broken mess. Your next step is either wait for the limit to reset, or buy credits. You really have no idea how much the credits are worth though unless you have personal experience with them, and it's at this point things get very expensive very fucking quickly and that's exactly what they want.Throughout this process though you may have something working on enough of a level to record it, show it to others, and keep the hype train running.
>>749541391>t. AI slop cattle with no brains
>>749541456I'll bite. Why can't you prompt system by system when weekly token usage runs out switch to animation or sound, art. Managing your usage like that? I have not once maxed out my 20 dollar limit yet btw.
>>749539937>it took him 7 days to make a thing move in Unity
>>749541370>coding is the hardest and most boring part of gamedevIt's also mostly math, AI can do math i don't care.
I have yet to see AI make anything that ammounted to more than an amusing meme.
>>749518296Why would I want to spend 20-100 dollars just to produce slop? SI is shit and all it creates is a bunch of annoying assholes on the internet
>>749537281Try tardwrangling ChatGPT into reducing detail as much as possible.
As a programmer, all AI has done is kindled a deep appreciation for human crafts in me and made me want to learn new things like modeling and music prod. These things are all just too precious to automate away and relinquish to a machine. I really feel for the artfags now. I should have realized this sooner. I’m gonna try my best to learn more arts now. AI is for talentless losers.
Yeah just pay money to the people trying to tell you their word predictor is your God yeah no
>>749542127i generated this post with chatgpt btw
>>749518691I got claude $100 sub this month and have been working on 2 projects at the same time, including a full minecraft rust + metal implementation. It's extremely hard to reach my 5h limit. If I don't use subagents I just can't do it.Protip to anyone using Opus 5.5: you don't need more than medium effort.
>>749542168I used my human brain:^)
>>749537281You didn't develop shit you just got the ai to copy paste stolen ip for you
>>749542192What a waste of money
>>749542238I'm pretty happy with it. Sorry that hurts / offends you.
>I did thisDid you?
>>749542192show screenshot. im curious
>brown retards paying money to corpo for barely function ai slop mods
>>749542273Yeah because you're a retard
>>749534918>the same 15 peopleit's like 5 at most
>>749542347*SI
Sorry but I just don't see a completely skilless or talentless person making ever a complete game with AI that's worth playing despite what Indian anons want me to believe.Sure AI is a good productivity tool and if you know what you're doing you can have your work done faster but Kumar or Pratik sitting in his mud hut in Mumbai aren't gonna make anything that a 12 year old kid couldn't make 20 years ago in Flash.Basically the people who use AI effectively would still be developing games even without it and all the worthless idea guys who have been doing nothing for years despite tons of tools and learning material being freely available to them aren't gonna make anything worthwhile.
Is it better for me to wait so the technology for this improves, or will waiting only lead to it becoming pozzed, unavailable and unaffordable?
>>749541632Sorry, while you were whining ITT, look what claude added to my game: fully destructible props and buildings, mmmhhh...Sorry pedro but it looks like we won't need you anymore moving forward...
I'm making visual novels, so there's almost no programming involved, so I don't use AI. But I was making a little RPG Maker game for fun, and all I have to do is ask ChatGPT how to do things in JavaScript, and it gives me the code, which lets me significantly expand the engine's capabilities.However, this is just a superficial use of the tool.The problem with leaving all the code in the hands of AI is that you'll become totally dependent on an expensive technology.An Anon posted his expenses in another thread, and in three months (even though he spent only $60 on subscriptions), he consumed the equivalent of $5,000 (1 billion tokens spent). In other words, he's only able to work because Anthropic is absorbing a massive loss on his behalf.This won't continue indefinitely, so we need to use LLMs sparingly rather than relying on them 100%.
do you guys make or find your own sound effects? Things like explosions, swords clashing, environment?
Idea chads won
>myth: AI will lead to a huge increase in creativity>reality:
>>749542523BUY SIGNAL NOW HURRY HURRY HURRY
>>749518664What does the egg button do
>>749542634Worker drones actually thought they were valuable, digging dirt and hauling grass stems.
>>749542626i asked claude to make a sound generator
>>749542487>but Kumar or Pratik sitting in his mud hut in Mumbai aren't gonna make anythingAI isn’t used for making things, it’s used for stealing. Pajeet and Chang will be taking some white person’s demo, decompiling it, vibeslopping in a little more gameplay and ads and then selling it before the actual game even has a chance to release.
someone decomp Oblivion and Devil May Cry (1)
>>749518296/v/ truly is the bottom of the barrel for any sort of intelligent discussion nowadays between the rampant discordfags, shills, and browns. Anybody have any forum recommendations with an older, less brown userbase?Anyways, got a full translation of Trade & Battle: Card Hero going now, outside of some of the drawn graphics (debating if I care enough to translate these given that the game is now playable in English). Might start dicking around with some Golden Axe mods next.>>749542487This tends to be my viewpoint as well. It's a great tool if you have existing programming, artistic, project management, etc. skills but if you're a fucking retard it won't change that. Ditto for the tasteless golems using shitty art assets and thinking they look ok. I'm convinced 99% of people have zero eye for aesthetics.
>>749542626elevenlabs gives you 10k free credits when you sign up. i use it for foley, ambience, other sound effects etc... It's probably the best option right now.Also, sometimes claude will unprompted add sound effects for me, and they're pretty great a lot of the time.
Claude is a romhack king
>>749542523The price is definitely going to go up. What companies are doing right now is absorbing massive losses to make corporations dependent on the technology.The indiscriminate use of LLMs to do everything for you isn't feasible for an indie game with no budget, if the cost of the LLM is "real" (that is, if there isn't a mega-corporation absorbing billions in losses every week). As I said in another post, an Anon who was making mods spent 1 fucking billion tokens (800 mi in one month), which at "real" prices would have cost him $5k.Of course, for someone making an indie game for commercial purposes, it'll still be less than what you'd spend on actual programmers and artists. But it won't be some magical technology you can use for free, unless you know what you're doing and use it only as a tool for specific tasks.
>>749542703oh shit it makes sounds as well?!>>749542761that is good to know. Isn't elevent labs the thing that people used to make memes years ago?I guess for sound of characters attacking or getting hurt could be made with it as well
>>749542343No, I'll show you a video. Right now it's just minecraft though, not much to see There are still a few bugs, but it's really small stuff, and I just need to tell claude about them and it just fixes them. Did it this weekend. It was quite cool to watch claude work on it, it created a little scripting language for it to develop automated tests and stuff. It took a little debugging after, but I'm very happy with it.Next I'll write a bunch of interfaces for LLMs to be able to play the game as well, and then I need to strip a bunch of stuff from the game I don't like (most of the modern stuff), and I can go from there. It's comfy.I haven't looked at the code at all.
>>749542590Thats not destruction thats literally swapping in new models as they take damage.Something fucking 30 year old RTS games do.
>>749525386Why would anyone make games manually when everyone can just slop up "extremely specific title catering to my autism" in Claude 35.0?
Anyone created a single player version of ss13 yet?>just play ss14made by a mentally ill tranny>just play the originalnobody plays anymore except mentally ill trannies
>>749543041nta, but this is very cool. dont give up on it
>>749543082because claude and AI can't actually create anything, it can only copy. If games stop being made the AI degenerates into endless copies of the same slop until people get bored
>>749541298Gay clout chaser “artists” are still melting down about AI and frequently making viral posts saying “it’s so over” like about malfoid animations.Funny how Luddites stay stuck in the past even when it comes to their own people.
is the last opus much better than astra? How token efficient it is? How much can you do with the 20$ plan?
>>749542127You still won't do it. You are going to realize that art takes days if not weeks for a piece and you will give up. Not even with AI doing the heavy math lifting.
>>749542590Wow what ps3 game is this?
>>749525386Yeah. Get money out of game development. We should all cancel our Claude subscriptions and return to a DIY mindset.Oh wait, that's not what you meant, is it?
>>749525445The AI platform makes the money :^)
what's the pipeline to decompile a game? Any libraries or software stacks to use or i just have to ask claude and make no mistakes?
>>749542590The new industrial recolution looks..................................like that?!?
>>749543389i use opus 5.5 and ive run out of weekly usage once after using it HEAVILY throughout the week. it ran out on sunday, and it refreshed on monday.no issues for me on that front. I'd say get in on it now before it's inevitably more expensive for less usage.
>>749525445You don't. You slop up shit in your spare time and see your eternal serfdom as a moral victory because something-something browns and troons.
>>749543082my point exactly>>749543363so... what's the issue?if AI is so bad and will never be better, then there's no problem right? you're not scared of all the games out there turning to AI, right, since it's so bad?>>749543479what would that have to do with claude subscriptions?what's the logic here? mind trying to explain to the class?
>>749525768Why are artists not entitled to money but ultra-rich AI platforms are?
Can AI make animations for skeletal mesh characters?
>>749543519Install REA and connect it to this coding agent using npx rea-agents@latest setup. Show me the setup plan for approval, then verify the installation.
>>749542689these kinds of games are the equivalent of those roblox tycoon gamesno wonder there's so many of them since they're easy as fuck to make. You don't need a story or writing or music or even good animations - it's just a glorified clicker game
>>749543613the artist does not provide me with anything, because the AI does it, what sort of question is this?I'm not giving my money to sam altman because he wants the money, I'm giving it to him because he's providing me with a service, this isn't entitlement, that's capitalism you stupid commie
>>749543586Why is giving Anthropic money not "money in game development" but giving GoyDev Studios money exactly that?
>>749543586>so... what's the issue?Flooding the market with low quality copies.AI can't create and it's extremely low quality but it will kill indie devs just by flooding the market, similar way how AI "art" is all over the internet. Most people don't really want it but the companies make money with the influx of retards.AI art and AI games are worthless but they will kill indie games.
>>749543586>you're not scared of all the games out there turning to AI, right, since it's so bad?The "creators" are afraid of telling you that the game is AI
>>749543691>When a human writes a book that's not giving me anything>but when AI writes a book that IS giving me something
>>749543707Oh look, it's babby's first exposure to "follow the leader" mentality.
>>749543041Should've posted usage for those curious:this is my current, but I only worked on this during the weekend along with my other project.Overall I'd say this rewrite (including some reverse engineering work, of course, since the code isn't fully deobfuscated), accounts for maybe 25%-30% of the weekly usage.During this whole thing I reached the 5 hour limit once, with 10 minutes left for it to reset, and I had to leave claude running with 5 subagents for 2 or so hours straight during that period.>resets on the 14thI'm NGMI bros...>>749543519Just ask it, it will tell you what it needs.>make no mistakesDon't even need that these days.>>749543303Thanks, it's just a really comfy sandbox game.
Yes I would rather make a Jew richer than give fellow goyim a single cent. It's called being based. Try it some time.
>>749543758Try prompting out a game with claude right now, it can't. They are using claude to steal games, not to copy them.Man Toby Fox must be very happy, that kike has a history of stealing all his ideas, assets and characters.
>>749543071Okay, you're obviously technologically illiterate, it's fine, it was expected, that's what you third worlders do after all: this is what any game does, because doing it any other way would imply loading hundreds or thousands of entities into the map for no reason, but, you know what? don't worry about it.look how hard I worked in the meantime :^)>>749543458>>749543534There's no skybox, no shaders, no postprocessing since it's obviously a testmap, but I know none of you retards know or understand anything about making games, so don't worry about it.Once again, this is the worst AI will ever be.It will never be worse than this.
>>749518296I like it. My pixel art is bad but I can draw my shitty things and use the AI to create the code. One week of drawing and vibe coding and I can play my game at least, which is more than I can say for just me and just drawing. But now I have to grapple with the fact that nobody wants to play Slay the Spire with a SMT battle system.
>>749543960>Once again, this is the worst AI will ever be. It will never be worse than this.lmao it will only get more restricted, more expensive and less available
Can't wait for vibecoders to realize that just releasing a game on Steam doesn't make you any money, it's a lesson that the indies had to face a decade ago.
>>749543696why would I care about that?what the fuck kind of connection are you trying to make here, why would I care about AI getting money it should/shouldn't get, AI isn't my passion, video games are, maybe you got lost and you thought this was reddit, but this is the video game board, retard>>749543724yeah because not using AI would be absolutely retarded, but don't let the troons hear this one>>749543753..?yes, if I want something from the AI, I spend money on the AI, and I get what I want from the AI, and if I want a book, I'll spend money on the book and get the book!bravo, you figured it out, you're nearly an adult now!
>>749544058What if we do make money? Will you kys?
hundreds of millions of people are gonna lose their jobs to AI. imagine being a programmer, game dev, or even someone like a 3D modeler or whatever. they are all fucked. all those people will lose their incomes. the fuck are they supposed to do now? i predict civil war in the next 10 years.
>>749544097You won't, you're wasting your tokens.
>>749544058>ai will never be able to do that>ai can't code>ai can't art>ai can't model>ai can't understand>ai games can't sell anyways>ai will never get better>oh no AI games are flooding the market!!!!>goalpost has been moved againisn't it funny how this goes?
>>749544102What if you need to make a character that only has 5 fingers per hand?
>>749544170>oh no AI games are flooding the market!!!!Source?
>>749544102Hopefully, we don't need most of the people we have in the world right now, they're a drain on society and pretty obviously way too retarded to survive.
>>749544102At work we just hired some developers to build a website and database. During an early meeting someone showed them a vibe coded prototype and it was painful to explain to the vibe coder that you can't just use it because it isn't built correctly, and 100k lines of code being generated in 3 days is basically impossible to maintain, let alone the fact that the vibe coder couldn't explain how any of the prototype even worked. Idk how this might affect a video game specifically but I imagine that jobs are safe, for now.
>>749544218>>749543707
look at my cool coffee mugif you keep clicking, it keeps tilting
>>749544058Do TikTok videos showing off your game. Do your captions like "I cant believe they let you do this" and then give it a few weeks to build momentum, then release. Make sure your game is built with first impressions on the drooling masses in mind.Most people don't do this right when it's honestly not that hard when you have your finger even just ever so slightly on the pulse of society.>hmm this didn't work fa-Then your game fucking sucks. Whatever the fuck it looks or sounds like, you need to KNOW you made something mouthbreathers will pause for at least four seconds for.
>>749544263Where are the AI games that are flooding the market?
>>749544325Do you know what a goalpost is?Do you maybe not understand what my sentence meant?
>>749542590I know the capabilities of AI, you dumb jeet. Nothing impressive for an actual professional in the industry. We, software developers, use AI as well, since it is pretty much mandated by companies in modern IT in an attempt to increase productivity. I know my posts harm your wet fantasy of making a game and being a "vibecoder", but your "games" are in the same bucket as "videos" from your Mumbai brethren on every social media playform nowadays. You should actually learn how to code instead of wasting your money on tokens and subscription.
>>749544321But with AI they can just generate their own game based on that video.
>>749543960this is the most subsidized AI will ever be
>>749544391>pedro couldn't figure out a new rebuttalouch, sucks to be you huhit's okay, opus 6 will release one day, and I'll still be making games :^)
>>749544364>Do you know what a goalpost is?The thing you just moved when I asked for proof.
It's been 4 years since the bubble began popping, and it's never been more popping. This is the least popped that the AI will ever be, remember that.
>>749544265
>>749544460ask grok to explain it to you, idk
>>749543707>AI can't create and it's extremely low qualityThis is a common misconception because it only really changed in the past 2 months or so, but AI is really good at building quality software (read: doesn't crash, does what you want, is performant, etc).I have 15 years experience as a dev, and Opus 5.5 is the first time where I'm actually thinking I may be out of a job in the next 6 months or so. It is just a lot better than me at coding, not only because it's faster, of course, but also because it has the ability to store the entire codebase in short term memory, so it simply doesn't make some of the mistakes humans are prone to.I still think non-opus 5.5 models aren't great, and you definitely need to wrangle them, but opus 5.5 was simply a huge shift.Also claude created a showcase script for me to show my friends (you guys). So cute.>>749544058Do you have to make money with every activity? Why are you on /v/?
>>749544539lol and where is this software?
>>749543691>the artist does not provide me with anythingThe artist will provide you with art that has commercial value. AI-generated art has no value, because it's essentially "infinite" and can be created by anyone for free (at least as things stand today).Of course, if the artist is bad or unknown, then the value of their art will be almost zero as well. So it's not as if every artist will significantly add value to what you do...But even so, you'll have something of value that you can capitalize on in some way, even if it's just making it clear when you sell the game that "the art was carefully crafted by a passionate, self-taught artist," or some bullshit like that.
Only corporations are allowed to make money. You only earn wages and spend it. If you do anything, it is only to be done in your own time for free.
>>749544626>The artist will provide you with art that has commercial value. AI-generated art has no valuewhat the fuck are you saying, how is ai art infinite and pencil art not? I didn't know we were running out of pencils, well shit!god you're so retarded, never mind, go live you life anon, draw your furry porn or whatever it is you enjoy, it's not my problemjust please stay out of my industry, k thanks bye
>>749544403Well good thing we're in the wild west phase where you still have one powerful tool in your arsenal: Being early.If any of you faggots ever want to hit it big with this shit, you'll never have a better time than right now. All you need a little extra marketing effort and that should be elementary to all of you because you already understand the faggotry that is modern social media. Anons in this thread say the market is flooded already but it's about to become fucking biblical within the next few months, maybe even weeks. They can either stick up their noses over games being ruined or take a relatively fantastic opportunity for a quick buck.
>>749518691>Pay $100 for 5 hours of access to an ai coding tool per monthThe $20 Claude time gets you a ton of time>$60 of your month is spent watching a loading bar get 50-80% completed before erroring out with no outputWhat? There is no loading bar. You pass in a prompt, it thinks for a second, then passes back a response. Some harnesses have the initial response loop back a few times before its forwarded to you. They call this "thinking mode">$30 is spent watching it finish and spitting out code that doesnt work or doesnt do what you asked it to doThis one is actually true (except for the nonsensical dollar value). Sometimes they add random shit, so you have to review and trim it. Sometimes it doesn't work, so you have to force it to write unit tests
>>749544835lmao noone cares
>>749543391I’m used to making things that take years. I’m sure it will be fine. The more time it takes, the more meaningful it is. The fact that crafts take time and skill is what makes them valuable in the first place.
>>749544626>AI-generated art has no value, because it's essentially "infinite" and can be created by anyone for freeIt also can't be copyrighted.
A 90iq brownoid can proompt just as well as a 130iq White can, yet they want to convince you that being against AI is brown.
we need more of these threads
>>749544715Anon, what I said is pretty basic. If you can't understand why art created by someone has value, while "replicas" created instantly and for free by algorithms that are available to anyone have no value, then your view of the world and humanity is that of a child.Honestly, even very abstract games end up being, in some way, an expression of the creator. With such a simplistic view of the world, what are you going to express to others? Or are you going to leave the "artist's personal expression" in the hands of "Claude" or "ChatGPT," too?
>>749544882Great contribution, tardo. /v/ needs country flags so you know who to automatically ignore.
>>749545054noone cares about your slop
>>749544582Opus has been around for a couple weeks now, and we've already seen extremely stable clones of photoshop written in a matter of days, if not hours.In our company we have a single fully vibecoded project, and it consistently ranks the highest in terms of stability and resource usage, while simultaneously being one of the projects with the least dependencies.The others are on my computer. Software which I'm developing for my own use.Now, can you point to this mythical super stable human written software which has no bugs or flaws or crashes? Can you?
>>749545131can you point to this super stable photoshop clone lmfao
All the images/webms ITT look like absolute shit.>b-b-but I can make them really fast with AI!I don't think the people who play games care about how fast you were able to generate this if it sucks?
>>749545119Read the title of the thread, retard
>>749545131>In our company we have a single fully vibecoded project, and it consistently ranks the highest in terms of stability and resource usage, while simultaneously being one of the projects with the least dependencies.yeah and once it's released someone will hastily make an AI clone of that and bye bye company lol
>>749545246still don't care lmao
>>749545005no you monkey, you use subjective and emotionally charged arguments: which I give zero fucks about, it's not my problem, you say one has value and the other doesn't have any: and I can prove you wrong by saying 'no', that's how deep your subjective opinion goes, that's the value of your subjectivity, I said 'no' and now it has no more power, see how this works?you also still don't seem to understand that you're not entitled to my money, I chose where my money goes based on what I expect in return, this is how the adult world operates, I know that you got your panties in a twist about it right now and you think the world shouldn't work like this, but again: not my problemI have zero reasons to go with an artist over AI, AI does it cheaper, faster, I can iterate on it as much as I personally want, and I don't have to deal with one of you mentally ill retards, I can say 'draw anime girl with big tits' and I'm not going to hear you retards going on about how we should have debra wilson in the game instead; shut the fuck up, not my problem, you'll have to live with it
>>749545054god that would be so fucking good
Someone needs to bankroll unlimited tokens and challenge Blow or Muratori to stream and make a game by only proompting agents
>>749545331*SIalso SI needs that artist to produce anything and it still returns only slop.But, hey, it's your money i guess :)
>>749545420first smart thing you've said all day:it's my money, get fucked retard
>>749545404yeah we could tell all those AI sloppers from india to eat shit lol
>>749545254What does that have to do with what I said? Also, it's not a service we sell, it's a part of something else. Also, why should I care? What do you want me to do, cry about it like you keep doing? I genuinely believe we're heading for a world where software will no longer be viable as an industry. That's a good thing.
>>749545463says the ai retard lol
>>749545521lmao retard
