What went wrong?
>>749535372Nothing. It’s one of the better games released this year despite its flaws.
I hope Anita Sarkeesian feels fine :'(
>>749535372It's ok. For Hellraiser standards even good.
>>749535372I dunno, I'm having fun playing it in my gamer chair.
wtf i hate asian women now
It deals with icky no-no topics.
>>749535372nothing, it's a fun game. a solid 7/10 and it's only 40 bucks. if you're a fan of hellraiser then it's a must buy imo.
This game needs infinite ammo unlockables. I want to go back and experience some kino moments again but even easy mode is surprisingly stingy at times. I still have to use stealth, the cube and accurate headshots to conserve supplies. The cabin part is still a bitch on easy. Would have felt so good to replay with an infinite magnum in that part.
>>749535372its just porn
>>749535372Nothing. It's good.
>>749535372The box? you opened it, we came.
>>749535524Dayum
Best horror game in years
I don't get Hellraiser's setting at all>Leviathan is an entity that demands all existence is perfect order>It gave humanity machines and technology so we too can eventually live in such a world>Also it kidnaps random perverts who solve it's freaky rubiks cubes and makes them into demonic super perverts for some reason.
>>749536207>Tits and vaginas are censored>Porn
I feel like there's a new "horror" game about a sex cult like every year
>>749537440Name 17 games.
>>749537226>Tits and vaginas are censoredYou could've at least played the demo anon.
>>749536269epbp
>>749536885And do you get our setting genius?We spin on a gigantic sphere where an even more gigantic fireball gives everyone life and there are gorillions of it out there. And if we zoom in 5 million X we can se literally everything this planet is just vibrating little atoms.So stop being a smartass.
>>749537945Thanks for the possibly AI generated non-sequitur I suppose?
>>749536885>cultists worship the Cenobites>Cenobites think they're all gay retards>Cenobites worship Leviathanmakes you wonder innit
>>749536885>kidnaps
>>749536885Who can possibly fathom the mind of an extradimensional floating rhombus
>>749538719SEELE from NGE
>>749535372The acting of the two main characters, I guess. Other than that nothing, it's an overall great game and a very faithful adaptation of the source material.
We came.No refunds.
>>749536885You aren't supposed to comprehend it, like an elderich god, nothing makes sense to a mere mortal. You are simply unworthy and if you were to solve the cube you would be tortured for eternity. Me however, it would make me a cenobite, I dont doubt it.
Tbh I liked the 2022 movie.
How do games like this get a pass while a single upskirt in a Japanese game gets it banned from every single platform and mass review bombed from journalists?
>>749535372test
>>749536885nobody is kidnappedTHE BOX, YOU OPENED, WE CAMEif you are so far off the deep end that the lament configuration came to you and you decided to solve it, you deserve to get fucked. It's what you wanted no?
>>749535372Too janky and too short.
How woke is it?
>>749536885The setting itself is great. It's simple and spoopy. But the moment you have pseuds making up their own head cannon and treating it somekind of deep lore, all the mystery just vanishes and you'll left with gore porn.
>>749535497Lmao kys retard>>749535372Hellraiser always sucked as a franchise. The concept is neat but the movies and games have always failed to properly capitalize on it.
>>749540450extremely
>>749535372>what went wrongOnly played demo but ingame gore is weirdly toned down. Why show people getting ripped apart in the intro if stabbing/executing/shooting them doesn't leave a mark?
Do i need to be like this guy to enjoy this game?
>>749537945this dumb nigger actually believes space is real LMAOOOOOOOOO
Whats with movies and vidya where they're afraid to have lore longer than page and a half.I wanna read indepth about cenobite world and cults and shit but u dont really get worldbuilding this asvanced in either of the medium. Only in books or maybe tabletops(still just written word.)Its gay and lame
>>749536207Alright then I’ll have to buy it
>>749540578>What is their tax policy
0 cenobites actually regret opening the box.If you regret it, you just haven't been raped enough.
>>749540578Don't the comics elaborate on the Hellraiser lore a lot?
>>749540578The majority of people don't even read one page lore notes. The deluxe edition comes with a prequel novella though.
>>749536207Mostly for necrophiliacs and gorefags. For most that's just body horror.But I did like some bitches in latex and leather. Those cultist chicks in bdsm style armor look sexy.But I wouldn't say that game overall is sexy, unless again, you are a gorefag.
I'm more surprised about this game that Clive Barker and Doug Bradley were involved with the game at all. I know Doug is the voice of Pinhead and getting him to voice Pinhead again, unlike DBD, but isn't Clive retired by now? Does he still own the Hellraiser IP?
>>749540761Yes, can confirm. Some fun ryona too.
>>749540578Because Japan is too conservative to come up with a 40 volume light novel Hellraiser.
>>749540778He bought the rights back a few years ago IIRC. And he was consulted on lore for the game. It's not like he was working crunch time with the devs.
>>749540578It would just ruin the mystery, or rather the aesthetic, by adding nonsense lore.
I think we should find leviathan and kill him
Is Clive Barker a top or a bottom?
>>749540939>He bought the rights back a few years ago IIRCQRD? Did he loose the rights to Hellraiser because of how shit the newer movies were?
>>749536885It is kind of weird, yeah. I guess cenobites are what happens when you take the biggest degenerate coomers you can find, take them and then transform them to be in a constant state of post nut clarity and make them hunt other degenerates.
>>749540941You can expand but not explain
this fucking game gives me headaches man. I'm like at the end...I hope and that room where you pick up the fortnite horse club and get swarmed by tons of niggers. They just made the whole game annoying man. The RE inventory is completely out of place too. If it was a regular shooter without lack of ammo it might have been fun but this is so shit. The running away sections are shit too. Shame really since it has cool locations. Also all this bdsm sex garbage got old like almost instantly. So boring
>>749536885>LeviathanIt's canon that leviathan is just hells town hall.
>>749536885Something something boundary between order and chaos something.
Is it good if you never watched anything hellraiser related
>>749535497FPBP
>>749541203I watched the first film, and maybe the second one, my memory is hazy. I think I find it more enjoyable than the first film, which is the best one anyway, I have heard.
>>749539607yepthat's why the first movie is so effective and everything is made lamer with each sequel
>>749541102They're not always coomer degenerates. Sometimes you have drug addicts that want to try some new drug that Leviathan can offer them to feel that high again when everything earthly doesn't affect you at all, sometimes you have people so devoid of purpose that they would gladly follow an eldritch god if it means having some sort of purpose. Leviathan doesn't just take degenerate coomers and sadomasochists, it takes those who are devoid of sensations and want to feel something again both good and bad.
>>749541054He sold the rights from the very beginning to get the first movie financed. By the third movie he had been mostly pushed out and they tried to turn pinhead into a slasher villain and then when slashers went out of style they just started pumping out bad direct to video movies every few years to retain the rights.
>>749541102>>749541318Sounds like Slaanesh.
>>749540578>Whats with movies and vidya where they're afraid to have lore longer than page and a half.that takes effort
So did Zora work for Leviathan, like the Cenobites? The lore behind Erebites is still confusing for me considering they're the children of both human and cenobite.
>>749540986What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
>>749541373>>749541318>>749541102One of my favorite characters from the comics was a blind pianist who writes a piece that evokes the Cenobites the same way the puzzle box does, and he performs it at a concert to get revenge on everyone who ever fucked him over.
>>749541373I guess, but Slaanesh is not about "order".
YOU SHOWED ME YOUR BOX.I CAME.
>>749541754How did the Cenobites not take him too? Considering the Configuration reacts to those looking for sensation and, if solved, appear, I would assume this piano piece did the same way.
YOU SHARED YOUR TIK TOK REELS WE CAME
>>749536885The cube is a honey pot for degenerates that don’t fit into Leviathan’s concept of orderIt’s his way of rooting them out under the pretense of “more pleasures”He takes the most intelligent of these perverts and makes them into cenobites, per Hellraiser 2The problem is that intelligence beings rebellion, hence why the doctor cenobite was being directly controlled and Pinhead’s group was given amnesiaThe setting isn’t too difficult to get, but what IS confusing are people like Julia who were chosen by Leviathan to hunt for would-be cenobites and allowed to keep their human form?Also, the Labyrinth is not “Hell” despite being called a personal hell by many
>>749542012It's been a while since I read it but I'm pretty sure they take him after the audience is massacred. However, they might've been playing fast and loose with the rules since one of those comics also explains that one of the Cenobites is an autistic kid who was handed the puzzle box by an abusive parent.
look at this garbage man
>>749542179>one of the Cenobites is an autistic kid who was handed the puzzle box by an abusive parent.Shouldn't they have taken the parent instead of the child? IIRC the Configuration responds to desire and if you open it if you don't desire it, like someone forced to open the configuration, they would focus on the person that forced the box to the opened not the one which opened it.
>>749535372Mandatory reminder that you don't hate gaming journalists enough.You think you do, but you don't
>Hellraiser 2They went all out with the doctor puns huh
>>749542261>IIRC the Configuration responds to desireIt's inconsistent. The desire part was in the second movie. In the first one, you still had to go with the Cenobites.
>>749542285>106 users can't be wrong
>>749542423>34 journalists can't be wrong
>>749535524I have the same bald spot
>>749540603YesWhat is they tax policy for other degen?
>>749540097Get fucked, weeb. Artkino is always permissible.
>>749537226Any image created with the intent to arouse is porn.
>looks kinda cool and is made by saber>its hyper edgy goremax drivelWay too try hard. ILL looks much cooler
>>749540468>and games>GameSsssRetarded nigger, there is only ONE actual Hellraiser game in existence.But yes even the first 2 movies barely explain shit, the gore and shock factor is impressive for an 80s movie, but the plot? full of holes (heh)
>The box. You opened it. I'm listening.
>White guy simping for a mid asian who's a bitch to him in every flashbackUnrealistic
>>749540097violence isn't seen as badand one appeals to most regular people vs one that could never be appealing to 99.9% of people, is "appealing" but actually just the poser position to .09% and actually appealing to the last .01%
>>749542949>>its hyper edgy goremax drivelso Hellraiser, yes
This game is objectively kino yet /v/ contrarianism strikes again I see.
It's literally just BDSM the game, what could have went right?
>>749536885It's not supposed to makes sense, it's a thin, mostly aesthetics-driven premise, stretched thin to make a franchise. Like every horror franchise in existence tbqh.
>>749543556I guess. I never watched the movie. Point being that it looks like I will be falling a sleep in scene it expects my full attention.
>>749543382>White guy simping for a mid asianMany such cases! sounds realistic to me. The yellow fever cannot be stopped
>>749535497This.
>>749543731Maaaaybe watch Hellraiser 1 and stop there... Hellraiser 2 is overrated SHIT that barely adds anything new (except more of the Leviathan thing and more labyrinth shit, thats all of value) , and Hellraiser 2022 is even WORSE than the first two movies.Hellraiser franchise is extreeeemely overrated cause the storytelling is full of unexplained shit. It's just good at body horror thats literally it
>>749540325Why did they ask Sonny if she was willing to give everything but they were about to forcefully take the QT in the movie?Would they have snatched Sonny regardless of her answer?
>>749541050Power bottom.
>>749536885Everything the Cenobites do is mostly stoic and professional; all procedural and mechanical, hollow and lifeless despite all their harping about sensation. It's like an enlightened Buddha having attained Nirvana descending back into the "impotent" physical universe to guide as many towards the truth as they can. Except there is no salvation from suffering here, only Hell waiting on the other side. The order Leviathan promises leads to infinite sensation and experience, but it paradoxically means you won't have the emotional range to even care about the supposed pleasures you're feeling anymore.
>>749540660Yes.
>>749542179That happens in one of the movies, I habeeb. Some asshole has an autistic girl solve it. Then Pinhead shows up and says she was the hands that solved the box but the intent to call them was his so they take him.
>>749541373Leviathan would seethe geometrically about the mere existence of Slaanesh.
>>749535372The team that made this also made the Evil Dead game a few years ago which was my fucking GOTY. While not as mechanically fun, I think they absolutely nailed the Hellraiser aesthetic, and hell for an RE/SH clone it's still pretty damn solid. I hope they find enough success to continue, maybe do an expansion side story or something.
>>749543991Yeah, in a way intense feeling blanks the mind, so non-stop sensation would probably lead to a nirvana like state.
>>749540097It's the context that separates art from coomer bait fan service.I like both.
>>749543832>and Hellraiser 2022 is even WORSE than the first two movies.It's easily the third best and it's not even close.
I finished it earlier today, a bunch of the story makes no sense even after all the reveals, but thats not uncommon on the franchise
>>749541607Zora did indeed serve Leviathan. Eremites exist to guard specific things their Cenobite progenitor might find useful or simply don't care enough to watch over themselves and for Zora, that was Aidan.
>>749539607You literally can't solve the Lament Configuration unless you're fucked up enough to at least be able to learn to enjoy what's going to happen to you. If it ends up in the hands of a friend who's a disgusting freak at heart, and he hands it to you, you're not going to make any progress, unless you're also a disgusting freak at heart.
>>749544126>worse than movie 1 and movie 2>3rd placeYeah no shit sherlock, thanks for reiterating. They're still ALL mediocre, theres better and scarier horror movies out there by a landslide. The only actual cool thing about the Hellraiser franchise is the monster designs, everything else is EASILY surpassed in tons of media
>>749544231That is literally disproved on the first movie, not to mention a dozen of times on the comics
>mfw a good hellraiser game
So what happens when an anti-woke game goes broke? What do we call this phenomenon?
>>749544234OK retard
>>749543589It's about the pitfalls of addiction, whether it be to sex, drugs, or a person.
>>749544531Hellraiser is woke as fuck.
>>749536885I guess it has something to do with the desire for more that is rooted in humanity and leviathan exploited. Maybe the elder god itself got a liking for that aspect of humanity
>>749544065Yeah I can imagine how most cenobites would probably convert to Slaanesh instantly
>>749544531Anon, this entire series was made by a gay British man who was a prostitute
>>749540778It seems like he is starting to work again, it's releasing a "new" short story collection but it feels a little scammy
>>749544754The Cenobites have already experienced the height of sensation and come out the other end in a Buddhalike zen. Slaanesh has absolutely nothing to offer them because for Slaanesh, the chase for greater and greater pleasure and excess is the point, whilst for the Cenobites they have already attained all material AND metaphysical sensation - more noise, more sex, more drugs, etc. All of that is entirely hopelessly banal to even the lowest rung Cenobite and that's what the average Slaaneshi thinks can fill the void.
bro fuck this game I wish I just quit hours ago
>>749543382This is WAY more realistic than you’d think. I have friends like Aiden. If you only knew how bad things are out there. Sunny is an innocent waifu compared to some of those bitches I’ve known of.
>>749545214Shut up, you like it>LEVIATHAN BEAM
>>749535372>overwhelmingly postiive>it's just a REmake clonelet's be real, people did not expect this game to be worth a damn before release did they? a few weeks before release i thought this shit was gonna be a dbd competitor
>>749545214This and the cabin are the worst parts by far. Getting the final pillar upgrade on Hard without auto saves is pure fucking aids during the Leviathan part.
>>749541373Slaanesh was basically a ripoff of Clive Barker's works especially Hellraiser so yeah you're right
>>749545405you mean this shit? Man I dunno... if this was a regular shooter shit like this would be ok but no with RE slop tacked on it. I NEVER have bullets and never get to have fun shooting.
I wanted way more tits, dong, and cunt. Instead the tits were flat, there was 1 or 2 dongs (uncircumcised, ew) and all the cunts were blasted apart on the corpses giving convenient 'censorship'The gore was boring and loses its effect 20 minutes into the game.Then the game becomes fun again when you get cube powers!Then it becomes boring again because the game doesn't know what the fuck it wants to be. FPS? Puzzler? Survival? It can't do any of it well.This game badly needed a disemboweling mechanic.4/10, will forget about before the year is over thx for reading my blog
>>749545636This part was so fucking ridiculous. You eventually run out of boards and get swarmed. I pretty much only survived by popping all my healing items and flinging shit and firing into them occasionally until the cutscene played. It’s the cabin part from RE4 except horrible and amateurishly done.
>>749544551>a retard who said retarded shit projecting this hard lol, nice pathetic try
>>749546150>>749545636>>749545405I was zooming around the room cutting everyone after I ran out of ammo and sawblades. It made me miss Vermintide's melee combat.
>she closed the door on me
>>749535372Hellraiser is one of those franchises where the gore is just too much for me and I'm not even usually that squeamish.
>>749546446>Hey, Aiden. Still alive I see!
>>749541157>I hope and that room where you pick up the fortnite horse club and get swarmed by tons of niggersI was just thankful they only use those annoying fuckers like 4 more times before you reach the games end, and like two of the rooms let you throw around Labyrinth traps to kill them instead of wasting ammo.
>Clive Barker's Undying was one of the best horror themed FPS games ever made>gets 100% ignored in favor of that Jericho game that is 6/10 at best
>>749544146>a bunch of the story makes no sense even after all the reveals,what in particular? Things felt fairly well written
>>749545636I loved this sequence, but I also very autistically managed resources early on so I only ran out of ammo when the last handful of Unworthy spawned in.
>SNEED'S SEED AND FEED TO SOME >CHUCK'S TO OTHERS
>>749546235Pinhead got sucked dry for eternity and now he's a raisin. He wonned.
>>749546498The first film gave the cenobites very little screentime and there wasn't much gore either. The sequels were similarly subdued. The idea that an adolescent gorefest like Revival represents "the REAL Hellraiser" is based on a misconception of the series. That is, unless you include the comics, where admittedly there was more emphasis on gore.
>>749535372they focused so hard on the story and movies mythology they forgot to make the rest of the game
>>749546613You mean in these threads? Because I’m pretty sure Jericho was a massive flop. Most people that have played both usually prefer Undying by a longshot. /v/ just has a lot of kids that grew up with the 7th gen consoles so they missed out on undying.
>>749546817yeah sucked dry by Clive Barker
>>749546613>JAMMED>WON’T BUDGE
i liked it more than re requiem desu. game reminds me of a aa one off from the ps360 era, in a good way
>>749547108I mean in general, try making an Undying thread, I doubt it gets past 3 replies before it dies
>>749544231>You literally can't solve the Lament Configuration unless you're fucked up enough to at least be able to learn to enjoy what's going to happen to youFalse, no idea where you came up with that headcannon. Sounds like the ramblings of someone who is jealous I would easily become a cenobite. Dont ever reply yo me again, pleasurelet.
>>749542174Isn't it like the dude in the first movie that can turn into a dragon? Julia was only given human form because she needed it to be able to serve them.
>>749547407It would probably do okay on /vr/. /v/ has too many zoomers.
>>749546235No King rules forever.
4chan is the labyrinth. You are stuck here forever, constantly exposed to more and more twisted imagery and concepts, until you become a perverted empty recluse. Get out while you still can.
>>749547668But I enjoy the twisted imagery and concepts and often partake in the posting of them. It’s too late, I’m whatever the 4chan version of a cenobite is.>you’re here FOREVER
>>749547668>constantly exposed to more and more twisted imagery and conceptsThat was old 4chan. Now you won't find anything here that isn't already posted to fucking Reddit or Twitter.
>>749541128Give 3 examples... PLEASE. I am trying to learn.
>>749547858That’s because we turned twitter into 4chan not the other way around.
>Labyrinth segments>Labyrinth segments with fucking Chatterer
>>749547981No this board is tame and gay as fuck now you stupid kike
>>749547858>welcome to the worst nightmare of all... Reddit...
>>749546986what would the cenobites do if a cat solved the configuration?
>>749535497Literally this. Journalists in full meltdown lmao
>>749547989*teleports in front of u*
>>749547668Maybe back in the earlier days but not now. Some anon posted gifs of Daisy's Destruction and its still enters my head 16 years later. Genuinely the only thing from here I wish there was actual mind bleach for.
>>749548107Been shown on one of the comicsA chimpanzee solves it for some scientists and nothing happensOne of the scientists gets mad at the rest of his coworkers cause he doesnt believe in any of it so he rushes in and solves it, typical trope>See?! see i told you it was nothing you are all idiots but me!The Gash comes and reaps the whole team while telling to the chimpanzee not to worry, that he is safeI been reading most of the comics these days when not playing, there are a lot of cool stories and a million shitty ones
>>749548107Nothing. Didn't some autist get forced to solve it and they ignored him in one of the films?
>>749548043There was literally an unironic necrophilia thread up not too long ago. You just want cheese pizza so you’ll never be satisfied.
>>749548365>>749548420what if it was a really mean cat that liked to scratch it's owners arms up
>>749547989He's taken a shining to you.
>>749548358What's that and what was so fucked up exactly? Is this some creepy pasta shit
>>749548558How new are you?
Nothing.
>>749548641I've been here since 2008 when I got out of the army
>>749548420It seems to go from author to author on the comics, some times Pinhead and the gang are happy to leave somebody that was forced and go for the ones responsible, other times they take everybodyThere is a short story of an snuff film maker that gives a box to a girl he is filmingBox opens, the Gash appear, and they reap her and the dude filming from the other room, girl had no idea what was going on (but was into bdsm so maybe there is something there)Also there is one where the box was opened by an autist (like legit full on tard autism, non verbal, destructive, etc not tumblr auttist) that wasnt being tempted by any otherworldly desire but just cause he loved puzzles so much and Pinhead takes him to hell to serve as an apprentice putting sinners back together after they torture them, kid seemed happy
>>749547440pretty sure its just bullshit spouted by the cult, who are morons of course.
>>749541373Yeah, I'm pretty sure the original Warhammer creators said they were inspired by stuff like Hellraiser
I guess the game was woke after allBadummmm Tss
>>749544231Almost all the films contradict that.
>>749535497Based
>>749548558Wish it was a creepy pasta, was actually gifs of a toddler being sexually and physically abused as in hung upside down in those leg bars, candles inserted into her, kicked, tortured etc by suspected mother. Was some 3rd world people like Vietnamese kid and woman or some shit.
>>749546283>a retard who said retarded shit Yes, we know you're stupid. No need to reiterate it.
>>749548782Must be since in the first Hellraiser Kirsty opens the box in the hospital.
>>749548107They ignore animals so nothing. An animal has no conscious understanding of desire so it has nothing to offer them.
>hardcore bdsm cult>for some reason none of them lets me kill them and they all fight backposers
>>749549057>3rd world people like VietnameseJust average shit skin behavior then? Who cares? Do you cry as Mexican cartel skin removal videos as well? Grow up
>>749547407Tbf I don't know what to discuss for the 25 yo best horror story game,We could discuss speedruns, but the meta is retarded fast save/load to reset vertical position and jump over the graveyard fence and missing the entire level of the gameI had a short paper book about the Covenant family, wish I could find it's scans
>>749548447Oh? Were there pictures of guys dicking down dead broads? No? Then fuck off nigger.
>>749543589There is not that much bdsm as you think, mostly just when you visit the club before shit goes down.It's mostly gore, torture, body horror and Resident Evil style fighting or sneaking + some puzzles and shit like lock picking for extra loot here and there.
>>749536885Cenobites are Leviathan's way of corrupting mankind and converting us to it's designs. It seeks perfect order and sees us as pure chaos, to iron out our chaos it intends to make us it's unwilling slaves by offering our kind eternity through what the Cenobite victims have become in the series.The IP goes ape shit with making Pinhead the promotional character, but he is FAR from the central villain of the series. Leviathan is only shown in the second movie but it is very much the villain of Hellraiser. The Cenobite characters are just victims and slaves to the eternity Leviathan offers mankind.
>>749546446>>749546798kek>>749549606Brown or not, stuff like that takes a toll on you, even just from watching a video.>>749547668Nowhere better to go.>>749547989Yeah, if not chased Labyrinth is cool to ogle at.
>open box>cenobites appear>accept their offer>hooked chains start flying at my body and pulling me apart>"is this hell?">Pinhead answers>"this is your eternal suffering, the beginning and the end all in one">wrap my arm in a chain>pull the hooks out of my body>cenobites looking at me shocked>grab Pinhead and turn him round and bend him over>fuck his ass>"I think you will find this is the beginning and the end for you"> grab female cenobite and start fingering her throat and perform cunnilingus on it>she moans and grabs the back of my head>pull my dick out of Pinhead's ass>fuck the female cenobites throat>cum in her throat>wrap a chain around Chatterer's neck>you are coming with me, boy>look at fat cenobite>"sorry no fat chicks">walk through gates of hell with my gimp>walk up to Leviathan >Leviathan descends>make gimp get on all fours>stand on his back>open up Leviathan and start fucking it>"I didnt open the box, the box opened me">cums inside Leviathan >Leviathan starts spinning round rapidly and explodes>pick up smouldering crown from the ground>put it on my head>"now im the hellraiser"
>>749549852>perfect order is slavishly seeking new sensationsWhat a strange angle.
>>749549606There's a big difference between drug gangs mutilating each other to child snuff videos you fucking dense retard
>>749550116>>cums inside Leviathan>>Leviathan starts spinning round rapidly and explodesVery based
>>749550116hell yeah
>>749550220Not really. Human life is human life. It's all the same shit at the end of the day on this bitch of a planet we call earth.
>>749550116ebinn
>>749550317A bullshit stance. If you had a an electric chair and in it was a serial rapist and killer who is also Indian. And also another chair with an innocent non indian child in it. You had to pull the lever of one of them, which one would it be?
>>749550317>Human life is human lifeit really isn't. a cartel monkey knew what it was getting into and what could happen.
>>749550575All three. Why would I care about anyone who isn't me or a friend or family member? Fuck em all
>>749541373Slaanesh would be destroyed by Leviathan. Slaanesh are like the cultists who think Leviathan's realm is an eternal sex BDSM paradise when what Leviathan actually prodivides is extreme nerve ending sensorial overload to the point of enlightenment where pleasure and pain become meaningless human concepts.Slaanesh is chaos, which is what Leviathan seeks to contain. Cenobites are emotionless and don't display pain or pleasure because they've transcended beyond it thanks to Leviathan.That's why only a few can become Cenobites, only a few can survive Leviathan's engineering of order and perfection to be rebuilt and become living extensions of Leviathan's purpose.
>>749550854Even when you are trying to be a retarded edgelord you still reveal you dont belive what you say about a human life being a human life since you value your family and friends life higher. Dumb cunt
>>749551127The point is if you see something horrible online it doesn't matter the age. It's all still terrible regardless.
>>749550189When all the nerves in your body are overloaded, there is no room for pain and pleasure, the cognitive system shuts down, it becomes a singular process, that's why Frank Cotton says "Pain and pleasure, indivisible", he was never going to become a Cenobite but he was slowly comprehending what Leviathan offers to mankind and he enjoyed it.
>>749550927So Leviathan is more like Nurgle, but without pestilent disease type of shit and instead hires would be Slaaneshis into his ranks.
well we did it senpai. Shit game. Would have been a fun movie. Or you know would be a good game if it was a shoot like old doom, prey or fear. But nooooooo they had to ruin it with this garbage. Whatever. It was fun waching cenoniggers at the end
>>749553049>chatterer got the TAP in the end while Aiden had to jerk off with his remaining handAbsolute chad.
>>749546235What happened to Clive? He looked so healthy on a video of a 2019 convention where the original Hellraiser cenobite cast reunited.
>>749551515Nurgle is still a Chaos god and is more about hatred and Spite when he's not about diseaseLeviathan is a God of Order, so if we are comparing him to any Warhammer deities, it would be obscure ones like Solkan and the Gods of Law
>>749553276yeah that was some INSANE cucking at the end
>>749553595Literally AIDS.
>>749535372Game looks interesting, but I don't know shit about the hellraiser universe
>>749553956The nose makes it look like coke rather than HIV.
>>749553976Just watch the first two movies and you’re good. They’re like 90 minutes long apiece.
>>749537945Our setting is internally consistent and operates on a well defined set of rules. If you create a fictional setting it still needs to make sense, even if the logic is different.
>>749553976It really is not that deep or interesting. Just characters being obsessed with pleasure which lead them to hellish pleasure realm. That's it. Clive Barker is even more boring and shallow that Stephen King. There are tons of better horror writers.
>>749553956I'd be fucking surprised it took him that long to catch AIDS or some other sort of STD.
>>749554279Fuck you. Candyman is great.
>>749535372It's GOTY
Ok so give me the lore drop. What happens after the ending.
>>749535372it's decent, even good gamesreviews are again irrelevant, because paid marketers forgot how toreview a game without constantly inserting real life stuff and politicsit's a very good clive game, just that it's more stealthy than shooty. If you keep that in mind it's a good game. If you came for some shooting, it's mehjust a little miracle when devs decide to honour source material and designs instead of forcing a message or trying to be better than author himself
Are you cool enough to serve Leviathan anon? Are you?
>>749547668I've been here since 2006 buddy
>>749554381No
>watching Hellbound>Kirsty wears Julia's skin>it changes her eyes blue
>>749546613>>749547108It had such a cool concept though. That's why people still remember it fondly. The gameplay gets forgotten though
Okay i could use some spoon feedingI just beat the 2nd embracer and in the room there is one of those statues that points with its fingers to "growths" you have to cutI found 2 but the 2 on picrel direction i can't find, there is also a nearby "locked from the other side" door i can't find a way around.I just got the skull to open the door behind the vendor on this level
>>749556069There should be a hole in the wall you can crawl through and open that locked door.
>>749535524So thats why they wear those tiny hats
>>749556169im a retarded blind faggotty anon
>>749544039>That happens in one of the movies, I habeeb. Some asshole has an autistic girl solve it. Then Pinhead shows up and says she was the hands that solved the box but the intent to call them was his so they take him.I'm pretty sure the movies make up the rules as it goes along, so we could interpret that as the idea that cenobites just use their own judgement overall and are either able to read minds or just really don't like people who use scapegoats. Considering that the idea is if the box comes to you that you wanted it I'd bet it's more the second part, you get what they feel you deserve.
>>749541157>Also all this bdsm sex garbage got old like almost instantly. So boringFunny because that's kind of the point of hellraiser in general, you experience something so much you need a higher level of it to keep it interesting.
>>749556953yeah I dunno maybe if I was 18 yo virgin (no offense unironically) I'd be more into it but that part where you slap that one girls ass with the paddle? It's just so forced and worst of all they pussied out hard on that scene too. If you want to shock with sex just go all in at least. Why they bothered to do any of that so half assed I dunno
>>749557282>yeah I dunno maybe if I was 18 yo virgin (no offense unironically) I'd be more into it but that part where you slap that one girls ass with the paddle? It's just so forced and worst of all they pussied out hard on that scene too. If you want to shock with sex just go all in at least. Why they bothered to do any of that so half assed I dunnoThat's why it's funny to me, it's still working on you because you're demanding a more intense experience.
>>749554492Which one?
>>749554279Do you have nothing better to do on a Monday morning than shitpost and seethe about a horror writer you hate? Don't you have school?
>>749557408I guess. I get you point but thats like saying we made a shit game on purpose kek. Overall it was ok with TONS of annoying shit though>>749557458I mean the whole leviathan/god thing doesn't matter which one.
>>749553846Note this doesn't mean Leviathan doesn't hate us - he very much does, but it's a more impersonal mechanical kind of hate. All life is squealing squirming chaos but we are a specific set of processes that can be ordered and structured to bring about the perfect architecture of order Leviathan demands. Something like Nurgle is genuinely nothing but seething spiteful vitriol beyond the jolly front he presents. It's why all of his followers are totally nihilistic and bitterly hateful once you strip all the gleeful laughter from the equation.
>>749557524I don't hate him. I just think he is mediocre at best. Instead of seething about my opinion on your favorite gimp loving writer you should get better taste instead.
>>749557562Leviathan descends and opens up to reveal that the weird rhombus we know is just a shell surrounding The Void, a "deeper realm" beyond the levels of the Labryinth and that Pinhead's Gash was working to attain a worthy enough audience with Leviathan to be permitted entrance. Deepthroat then offers for Aidan to join them and implies that Leviathan may in fact be sensation itself, and at that point you have the choice to either proceed into the Labryinth for the final time and experience the Void or turn back and return to reality.
Every single client's letter about "Sister" of mercy is about how "she" is the best ever at sex, how there have been no other dominatrix as good as "her"You find "her" journal>Oh gee Rick im really scared of my rebirth rite, is not like when i had my top surgery!This tranny propaganda knows no bounds
>>749558060>I don't hate him>I just sit around waiting for new threads to be made about his game so I can pitch about how shit he is and tell people to get better taste and constantly reply to everyone to say how shit Clive Barker is but I don't hate himIt's so fucking funny when schizos try to pull the "I'm not actually shitposting" card when you can just look at the thread and see them shitting their guts out to convince people to be as stupid as they are. You faggots really do live in your own personal worlds where nobody exists but yourselves.
>>749542179so are all cenobites humans then? I thought they were some other dimensional beings and thats why that old hag says they can't act in this dimension without her or some shit.
>>749535372It's difficult to almost an excruciating degree at times. I beat it but I never want to play it again without infinite ammo.
>>749558350>schizo shitpost whinikg about schizo shitpostersFunny.
>>749535372Didn't pay the leeches, sorry I mean video game urinalists... I mean jewrnalists.
>>749558401Cenobites are generally made from humans but some are created/'born' with no human intervention. Angelique from Bloodline is the "Daughter of Leviathan" and was never human but was summoned into the corpse of a young woman to walk in the mortal realm, so she's a good example of a non-human Cenobite. There are also "demons", which are simply things created by Leviathan directly for particular tasks - The Engineer, Chidna, and Basalisk are all examples of this.
>>749558401They are all (far as we know) human born, taken into the labyrinth, and then given to a creature there called "The Engineer" who molds them on what they areI know that the lore goes as far as early 12th century (as in cenobites sightings) with other rudimentary boxes, i dont know if any of the comics go earlier.Anyhow on the 18th/19th century an architect/engineer/toymaker called LaMarchande got in contact with a cenobite and together developed the new type of boxes and he made hundreds of those
>>749558670where can I dive deeper into the material? Comics? I don't really feel like rewatching the movies but I probably should...
>>749558837The comics are definitely the major source of a lot of the deeper lore.
>>749558837batcavedotbiz has a lot of them, and frankly other than the 5 short stories (devoted to each member of the gash) released this year, the rest doesnt really matter which order you read them onAbout 99% of them are self contained stories/vignettes
>>749558837>where can I dive deeper into the material? Comics? I don't really feel like rewatching the movies but I probably should...Might as well just read the book to start out.
So I don't know anything and won't be able to play it in this life because it's on new gen and we're entering a giga recession + parts raising exponentially in price due to ai data centers. What is it? An adventure game? A fps? A tps? How do you make a game about cenobites, you escape and wander in the hell dimension with the cube? It's a game entirely happening in the hell dimension?
>>749559241Game plays like a resident evil, so a few weaons limited ammo, limited inventory, limited healing itemsYou get the cube early on and it can be used as a weapon when you have "mana" (called suffering)You also explore parts of the labyrinth that have no combat and are more puzzle based or you being chased by a cenobite (Chatterer/The Child) while you dodge traps and shit.Story wise your gf has opened the box and been taken to labyrinth and you are trying to get her back
>>749559241it's first person resident evil (badly adapted) but hellraiser with boring non labyrinth
>>749559427Is pinhead in it and voiced? Again can't play it but I could watch the game like a pretender.
>>749559427>Game plays like a resident evilid say it plays more like condemned blended together with specifically RE village
>>749554573newfag
I watched Hellraiser for the first time yesterday, its one of the few blind spots when comes to horror movies to me. It was fine, the makeup was excelent but the movie just kinda starts and doesnt explain much about the Cenobites and all the lore. I heard you should watch 2, Inferno and ignore the rest, is that true? Also there's something about this hag that makes me hard
>>749556069You visit meta or anthropic headquarter?
>>749559535Duh. It's Doug Bradely, too.
>>749559535Yes he is, both her and Fallen (deepthroat) are voiced.Pinhead is voiced by Doug Bradley and sounds pretty well, probably they had to put his voice through a thousand filters. Fallen also sounds very good
What's your pleasure /v/?
>>749559607>requires almost zero convincing to start murdering dudes and feeding them to the zombie in her atticthe sex with Frank must be been something
>>749559618Im not even gonna pretend i know what you mean anon.Some other anon helped me already
>>749559607Not explaining shit is great. Fuck loreniggers. Keep some blank space that we can fill up with our own dread, fear and anguish. I didn't watch the next movies exactly because I know they're going to ruin cenobites with gay back stories.
>>749559652Browsing 4chins when I should be playing video games. With the console on and a game ready to get me to stop browsing ( it doesn't work ).
>>749559607Watch 2. It explains more and came out a year after the first.
>>749559607>just kinda starts and doesnt explain much about the Cenobites and allAlso a bunch of whats set on the first one is retconned as the sequels keep pilling on>>749559707>the sex with Frank must be been somethingIn one of the comics a broad goes to hell chasing him because LITERALLY no other dom can make her feel what Frank makes her feel
>>749559607>the movie just kinda starts and doesnt explain much about the Cenobites and all the lore.Believe me, it's better that way. Cenobites were meant to be this eldritch abominations who have gone so far the deep end of sensation that they seem entirely alien to us, they tell you this themselves during their first scene "Explorers in the further regions of experience; angels to some demons to others". They get turned into generic BDSM demons from hell because it's easier to market them that way.
>>749535372>What went wrong?Not bunny suit though...
>>749559607The first movie is mysterious on purpose to show humans as evil and the cenobites as neutral, so it's ambiguous on purpose. The second one dwells deeply into the lore, it shows Leviathan, the labyrinth and everything. 3 is Pinhead''s origin story and duality and 4 is about the box's origins and occultism and how the elites are involved with the occult side of the Leviathan realm for generations.Inferno is Silent Hill before Silent Hill and then you can start skipping movies and try Judgement or go straight for the 2022 reboot
>>749560137As long Clive Barker was involved with the production, they maintained the Cenobites as twisted beings from another dimension, it's only after the studios dropped him that they started with the religious morals aspects and portraying Pinhead some sort of demonic hell priest
>>749560807>As long Clive Barker was involved with the production, they maintained the Cenobites as twisted beings from another dimension, it's only after the studios dropped him that they started with the religious morals aspects and portraying Pinhead some sort of demonic hell priestUhhhh have you checked the books that Clive Barker wrote where gave Pinhead the name of Hell Priest?
I bought it and played a couple hours so far. Atmosphere is great but damn they should have made the melee combat more in depth. You can't even fucking party and condemned criminal origins had that back in like 2007 for fuck's sake.
>>749560807>portraying Pinhead some sort of demonic hell priestTo be fair Pinhead's actual name in the source material is literally "the Hell Priest".
>>749561039*parry
>>749560531>you can start skipping movies and try JudgementNTA, I watched Judgement on a whim yesterday and I was surprised when I saw the duration was just ~80 minutes long and sure enough the movie moves at a breakneck pace. It really needed another 20 or 30 minutes to slow things down and build on the mystery. As it stands it's a just more poorly paced, poorly acted 7ven. The scenes with the Auditor were intriguing, I had hoped they would linger more on those rather than on the shitty detective story with no mystery at all.
>>749554268>Our setting is internally consistent and operates on a well defined set of rules. it doesn't though. light photons carry force and exert pressure despite having no mass. God seriously said "shit, none of this will work unless I give light hax powers and let it ignore the physics I designed, ok whatever"
>>749553049>Shit game. Would have been a fun movieThis is the essence of AAA+ games. They're aimed at people who'd rather be watching a movie.
>>749559427WHY DID YOU POST ONOSOAPOWHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
>>749561193Oh yeah, and there also a passing mention of how the cenobites could lure people into their torture rape dimension in an age of electronic entertainment, but this theme was not even explored in the movie. Imagine a Hellraiser movie that touches on themes of social media adiction, internet porn, OnlyFans bullshit, etc. If it had come out in 2018 like Judgement did it would have been a much more interesting movie. But you can't really expect a truly transgressive film from the Hellraiser franchise anymore.
>>749561615>WHO THE FUCK ARE YOUAngel to some, demon to others
>>749561820THE ATAMI STRIDEWHY DID HE DO ITWHY DIDN'T THE CAMERA SHAKE
>>749544126>>749544551>>749549249Nu Hellraiser is the worst movie, even worst than 9. Whatever happened to "It is not hands that summon us, but desire"? 2022 throws that all out the window and makes it a generic slasher like Hellworld. 1, 2 and 5 are the only good Hellraiser movies. 4 is fun, but mid.
>>749561974>"It is not hands that summon us, but desire"That isn't really a thing since the literal first movie, thats a thing they tried to push later and that has been contradicted a hundred timesAlso the Nu Hellraiser seems to be in a whole different canon, so it might have its own rules. We know at the very least they are not using a LaMarchande box, but its more likely that its a whole different canonIts a good slasher movie and the best hellraiser movie after 1 & 2, it is what it is
>>7495618202 years ago I hadn't any internet for like a month or two and a small old tv but they turned off all those channels for some rason since it's old and one of the only channels working was nhs. So I watched sumo every day
>>749561974If a drip of cum on old dried blood can bring someone back from hell dimension, then I don't see anything wrong with nu hellraiser... except for trannies and fags.
The game is surprisingly fun, I didn't expect that. But a lot of that is probably the spooky/sexy aesthetics that I'm really enjoying. That being said, once you finish it you learn that the real horror is the nature of women. Both Sunny and Charlotte fucked over someone who loved them for a sex cult. the game is too realistic
>>749561382NTA but we have an imperfect (at best, possibly deeply flawed) understanding of the set of rules that govern the universe, but everything points to it ultimately working in an orderly manner. Light would make more sense if you asked God directly. The degree to which it doesn't make sense is a skill issue on our part.
>>749562227Tournaments last 15 days every 2 months, and you can watch the whole top division on 2 hours or 40 minutes if you just want the matches/highlights/sp/ has a very active sumo thread during the tournaments, you should swing by for next one (starting nov 8)man i love sumo
WHAT YOUR GIRLFRIEND DID IN THE LABRYINTH IS HER BUSINESS, CHUD
>>749562872I will lurk those thanks
>there's sexy bdsm clubs that you can just go to to bang kinky qts How does one find these places?
>>749563167Go to Germany.
>>749563215What is it with Germans and fucked up sexual practices? They seem so uptight.
>for the whole game try to save your girlfriend from getting raped by demigods>she actually prefer to live as demigods rape doll than with you
>>749561164>>749561039FUCK parry.
>>749563215>germany is 20 minutes drive awayFucking where?
>>749535372Stretching the cult storyline to be the entire game.Who gives a fuck about Marlowe, Sister of Mercy, or Charlotte? They're generic.
>>749563293that's what happens if you try to suppress all the sexual urges and make them a taboo, same in japan
>>749563703Thats a fair criticism, the game felt really "small"Even when you get a breath of fresh air outside of the club its a very limited area.I assume its a matter of budget
>>749563784But Japs don't repress shit. They're very open about sexuality.
>>749563167Not all people that go to such places are sexy, probably most of them are not, and likely older as well. Also, much of bdsm is "pay to play", where you hire dom or hooker that does that stuff.
>>749563837mandatory censored genitals, thus suppression of the most basic of sexuality.
>>749563703>>749563816This is heavily reinforced with the main character always bringing up how they seen this somewhere all before or quipping that they have been there before.
>>749540325>"huh funny puzzle box i wonder how to solve it">solve it>"YOU OPENED IT, WE CAME- YES YOU CONSENTED TO THIS YES YOU MUST WANT ENDLESS TORMENT MMM NO NO YOU MUST LIKE BEING FLAYED FOR ALL ETERNITY BECAUSE YOU SOLVED THE BOX SO WE ARENT KIDNAPPING YOU CAUSE YOU WANTED THIS"It's kind of retarded.
>>749564479except they don't do that
>>749563703It would not make sense for character to fight cenobites, not really based on material then.
vanilla sodomites
>>749540468You're a low IQ NIGGER
>>749564479>sex demons>they require consent
>>749565219Yes anon they do, 99.99% of the times if you open the configuration you are fuckedEnough with the "only people that want it can solve it" or whatever bs that just goes to show you havent watched even the first movieThey take innocent people with them a lot of times, only some authors in some stories actually try to show the cenobites as sparing those that opened a box by curiosity or having been tricked
>>749565787>only some authors in some storiesThats the problem when youre dealing with any IP that has gone on for as long as Hellraiser has. Some "canon" is inherently contradictory and choosing to believe author A over author B just comes down to personal preference.
>>749563645At least allow block then. All you can do in the game is dodge.
>>749565695They're sensation demons, actually.
>>749542179I get wanting to get rid of an autist but would you really doom him to an eternity of torment? Why not just kill him normally?
Happy i played this shit on release and participated on these threadsI enjoyed the lore drops, read some of the comics, rewatched some of the moviesIn a week you wont be able to have a thread about this game, and that sucks
Are any of the hellraiser comics worth reading?
>>749542179I missed this postThey do take him and remove all his other senses that he had been relying on (since he was blind) but gave him back sight before placing him in stasis or something like that for eternity so he can only see the auditorium where the massacre happened
>>749565787So of the three people who opened the box in the first two movies, two were fine, and one came back to life without much trouble.
>>749566469I think they are yeahMost of them are 10 page or so stories, some are a hit, some are a miss. There is only a couple of long arc stories in the comics.You could check the few they released this year, 5 issues dedicated to the "main" cenobites. Giving them some background, except for Butterball that gets his comic hijacked by a powerful girlboss
>>749564479you will most likely never encounter the configurations unless youre their target audience to begin withthe only exception to this is whenever someone who is clearly their target audience has the genius idea to trick/force someone else into solving it for them, and in those instances the cenobites seem to consider the situation on a case by case basis
>>749535372hello, complete noob to the series here. I just read the original novel. It wasn't amazing by any means, but it was fun and I loved the mixture of bdsm sexual aesthetics with horror themes. Should I bother with the movies, are they any good? Is there other hellraiser media I should try out, like comics or vidya?
>>749567079The first two movies are good. I think I remember the third being trash though
>>749566563Were any of those 3 "fine" because the cenobites thought them "pure of heart" or whatever and decided to spare them?Or was kristy in the first movie just able to bargain Frank's location to save herself only for Pinhead try to also reap her once they had retrieved Frank?Two people open it in hellraiser 2, we have a flashback showing Elliot Spencer opening the box and turning into PinheadNow the one that has a case is TifannyShe is literally spared and Pinhead gives the "is not hands that open it, but desire" which is already retconning Kristy opening the box in the first movie and only surviving by making a deal.The idea of opening the box by trickery, under duress, by curiosity, or without the mental capacity to understand what you are doing hs been explroed in both the movies and the comics (i haven't read the books) and it mainly depends on the author (and the cenobite) with the opener of the box biting it more often than not.I seen a cenobite (the sisters) take a late developing child to hell and i have seen a cenobite (the gash) spare an abused child and instead reaping her torturer. I have seen a cenobite spare an unborn fetus while devouring the mother (and turning the fetus into a star in the sky) and i have seen a cenobite (Baron) take a random sailor to hell cause he was summoned by LeMarchande and he made a deal with himI guess its up to you to choose what is canon but the franchise itself has claimed a lot of times that opening the box on itself is enough
>>749547668Why is Pinhead in the cuck chair?
>>749567583PleasurePain
>>749567079First movie is an adaptation of the original novella, so is the most recent one that tried to sort of reboot the series.Second movie is imo the best one, gives you a lot of lore but doesnt really go overboard. From there on most of the movies are only watchable as guilty pleasures, with 5 and 10 usually being considered a notch above the others.I have defended the comics on this thread quite a few times, a lot of them go from decent to good and others are garbageThe game is a nice self contained story that actually has more the vibe of the comics than the one from the movies imo.
>>749567079The raped
>>749565240I liked fighting the zombies
>watching the scene at the start where the girl gets transformed into a big monstrosity>Feel like something funny awakens inside meOhno. No no this cant be.
>>749568025Well, you fight kind-of-zombies in the game, in some areas.
>>749567934*rapes you back*
>>749535372Needed a cameo.
>>749540578the comics do a solid work of providing the lore you seek. nevertheless, the plot/lore isn't so fucking deep it's just an excuse to dwell in fetish gore porn desu and I have been a hellraiser fan since decades ago but I get it and don't care much about it anymore since the movies after 4 are completele shit and Doug Bradley is an elderly man, no longer inspires fear. it was just a fad but I'm glad to see a clive barker based game finally getting some quality it deserves after all his other games were wonky shit. you want deep lore? a bunch of BDSM gory coomers take you away if you are too stupid enough to summon them, thats it. from the great mind of a gay pervert no less, so ha. basically "oh you like donuts? well have all the donuts in the world hahaha" logic
>>749567463>you're fucked if you open the box>box gets opened three times and only one person get fucked
>>749568379>>749535372https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4atbQq-GKsAlso, thread theme.
I watched the first movie and it was a 6/10 like one anon told me when I asked about it, the acting is rough but the costumes and special effects look great, that scene of Frank coming back is genuinely amazing. I heard the lore is expanded in the second but I don't feel too compeled to watch it.
>>749568483I seen first one, and yeah, some of those scenes and cenobite acting left an impression.I forget if I seen 2 or not, maybe it was on the /tv/ movienight with anons.
>>749547668FUCK YOU DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
>>749568179Flee anon. Flee while you still can.
>>749535372>giving a shit about anything to do with faggots and their disgusting bs.GO BACK
>>749566986It also varies by Gash. Pinhead's is a 50/50 on if they take all involved but others might choose to only take the one that called them and others still are pure "Fuck it we ball" and will go on degenerate soul-harvesting sprees. Use the configurations at your own peril.
>>749541373Anon...I...
>>749558218>top surgeryThis confused me. I've never heard a MTF call getting implants "top surgery". Top surgery is a term used by pooner to refer to getting their breast chopped off, but the Sister of Mercy is a troon, or at least voiced by a troon.
>>749568179
>>749544146>PicrelI don't remember writing that
>>749535372Troon faggot jewsjournos mad theres no woke shit, just faithful vidya adaption of a classic movie that people like
How do I start with Hellraiser comics? there's like a ton of different ones
>>749543731>I never watched the movie.Then shut the fuck up retard you dont even know what youre talking about
>>749566762Apparently the five one-shots are leading up to an ongoing series next year, "Hellraiser: New Parables." So we have Pinhead and Chatterer back together along with two new recruits to his order. Female fucked off to start her own order. Butterball is simping for Julia who's busy worming her way into Hell's power structure. Oh, and there's the annihilation demon loose on Earth, which may or may not be a big plot point.mite b cool.
>>749550116I have no words...they...should have sent a poet
>>749569812Sadly its full of subversive troon messaging and feminist subtext
>>749535372nothing. Streamer and reviewers are mad they arent making money on it and it doesn't have a "streamer" mode to remove the nudity and violence.
>>749567463I always figured that the whole "desire not hands" thing meant that the person opening it needs to be driven by a desire to know what's inside the box while they're solving it, and Tiffany was driven entirely 100% by her autistic compulsion to solve puzzles with absolutely zero desire to know anything about the box or its contents. She's basically the organic equivalent of handing the box to one of those robots that solves Rubik's cubes.
>>749535497Nothing, it's great. If critics find it to gross or whatever that's fine, let it be niche. I wish more AA titles were willing to get this weird with their settings.
>>749570442That is what everybody thought and the reason that everytime it gets contradicted (which happens non stop) we get these discussionsIt SHOULD be only if driven by desire but the movies and comics have a bunch (a lot) of examples of the cenobites just taking whoever the fuck opens the box regardless, and then some examples of being sparedPicrel is a cenobite (Halo) taking an abused child to hell cause he opened a box that he found on the closet where his mom locks him as punishment. There are so many examples of this
>>749535372>bullet sponge enemies>clumsy inventory managementBut it's actually a good game overall, solid 7.5.
>>749567463The fetus being turned into a star is surprisingly super wholesome. That genuinely give me an "aww"
>>749570906>We have Pinhead at home
>>749570906>cenobite (Halo)Wtf, how could John Halo torture a child?!
>>749559652See /d/? All of it. Cenobites don't do even 1% of what's in there, they're exclusively guro.
>>749570906To be fair that page also has the kid being curious about what's inside the box.
>>749570021lol
>>749571481
>>749571484>You opened the box. You came.
>>749571558>>749571484She showed me her box.I came.
>>749571553Hey man I don't make the rules, that kid pretty explicitly had a desire to know what was inside the box.
>>749535372>What went wrong?I fell through the floor after climbing a ladder and had to reload an earlier save.
>>749536207>-Is that s-s-s-sex??? You m-m-mean that thing a-a-all people literally e-e-evolved to like and en-en-enjoy??? AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
>>749571484I can fix her
>>7495711181/5Just putting the sequence, not the whole comic
>>7495719232/5
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>>749572161Damn.
>>749535372>interdementional immortal magic demons that can teleport literally anywhere on Earth in an instant with an omnipresent eldritch overlord searching at all times for its next convert/meal/what have you>none of them notice that the new guy they just brought in like 15 minutes ago managed to escape by slipping out the back door
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>>749572331top jej
>>749572161Did Jesus take him to heaven?
>>749571805anon are you ok?
>>749572396Thats how i read it, as the little guy going to heavenRemember anon, life starts at conception>>749572293On one of the comics a low level cleaner imp/demon mentions that after Frank escaped they had to beef up the securityIts also brought back up in one of the recent comics, how the cenobites had become careless on mantaining the labyrinth
>>749535497fpbp
>>749572293Labyrinth works degens, pls understand
>>749536207New large scale survey result shows 0.2-0.5% of the population find gore or gore related things sexualizing in any way. And statistically those people are brown trannies.thefetishmap.com/map
>>749536207Would have adult only rating then. But then, depending on your tastes, a lot of things can be porn.
>>749570906the narration boxes say that the child wants to know whats in the box
Comfy
>>749549606Pretty sure the dude responsible (Peter Scully or something) was white
>>749536885Lot of replies you got are pretty bad, shallow, or just dumb one note takes.Here's a decent video start at timestamp 29:10, makes a great fucking point: https://youtu.be/NVUgO4F2Eoo&t=1750tl;dr>the brain's pleasure response dulls out>multiple animals including humans dopamine isnt a happy checmical, it a desire motivation chemical>feeding rats with dopamine made them want their desires super hard, but they developed no pleasure from it>you may be able to accustom to pain, but the sensation doesn't dull>ergo pain is true feeling, satisfaction from want is false>Leviathan is giving people who solve the box the only thing they can actually get and experience forever.
Is the bdsm sex thing only a game thing or does it have on the movies as well? I've only watched the first two movies and it didn't have any of it.
>>749573197I don't remember any BDSM themes in the first film, not sure about the rest.
>>749573197>>749573347The entire premise is "BDSM if it were a slasher flick." The hell are you on about?
>>749549852Is the Leviathan a female? Asking for a friend, she cute.
>>749540578>oooouugh the loorre the loooorefuck off
>>749573447Well, kind of, but BDSM to me is not really gore or full blown physical torture.I guess it's BDSM in a sense that they torture him, but it's clearly over the top, would not be survivable without essentially magic. Most of the film is about that bitch trying to bring Frank back or whatever.
The leviathan gaze minigame is kicking my assThanks for reading
>>749573703With spiked dildos, I hope.
>>749573493It's funny how some people absolutely need to have some random guy puke thoughts onto a page for them to feel invested.
>>749573791Reading is normal. You're doing it right now.
>>749573569Iirc Barker actually went to a legit BDSM club and it's what inspired him to write the original novella. You're right in that actual BDSM is vanilla compared to the shit the Cenobites do, but that's kind of the point. They're what happens when you take the concept of "pain=pleasure" to its logical conclusion
>>749573938Yes, but I have not read the novella, so I don't know if they showcase Cenobites and what they do to him or others in Labyrinth or wherever else, better.Since in the movie (but my memories might be wrong), there is not much of that beyond chains ripping Frank up apart. Maybe there are implications of more, I dunno. But it's not really in your face, not shown. Basically, no whips, latex and so on, nothing like the game, beyond some gore.
>>749574145It had to be palatable for the general theater audience in 1987, they weren't as explicit with the sexual elements even if there's a heavy undertone for obvious reasons
>>749535524She's a closet gooner but the bird nest gives it away.
>>749574145Well, in the movies there's barely any BDSM if any at all, but the game seems to either criticize BDSM practicioners, a lot of negativity towards it in the game or at least imply BDSM are a bunch of tryhards and the cenobites are the real deal
>>749574573>the most hard-core fucked up dominatrix sex workers are effectively cosplay LARPers to even the most basic bitch Cenobite
>>749574573Cenobites are beyond the real deal. In real humans would not survive shit they do to them, well, some of it at least. As for portrayal of BDSM, I dunno, there is not that much of it. You paddle some slut in latex, and there are implied scenes like domme whipping somebody, but you don't see it, or just people inn latex and leather. It's mostly also that cult uses the club as a front.You could say Charlotte's backstory was criticism for BDSM because it broke her relationship apart, but then again, you could say that it was criticism of cults. I could see it both ways.
>>749574948Also, I think themes of addiction in general are stronger in the game. Like MC being an addict in the past, using drugs, but also his whole obsession with Sunny being an addiction of its own.
>>749574948The girl in white is the dev's attempt to show that it's not intended as a criticism of BDSM, and that you can engage in it at a healthy level without falling into the pits of depravity and hedonism, hence why she's one of the few survivors because she recognizes that limits are being crossed and bounces.
>>749574815yeah it's totally beyond human, they're doing shit like concrete enemas and throating molten glass dildos or some shit
I appreciate enemies not respawning at allSure some zones get repopulated as you advance the story with another encounter but once you have cleared a "zone" you are free to scavenge and explore it almost without constraintsI dont play these kind of games often but playing the Sunken City 2 it was egregious how every single corridor in every single map would get repopulated as soon as you walked a bitTy for your attention to this matter
>>749567583THE BULLYOU PREPPED HIMI CAME
>>749535372>Want to check out that opening cutscene people are talking about out of morbid curiosity>All the YT shit is censored to hell and back due to muh sponsor shekels, even the "full" walkthrough by mkiceandfireThe internet keeps getting gayer these days
>>749535372it's mid and has some cringe woke slop ending if you don't choose to be based
>>749536885anon it's based on Clive barkers experience in the gay scene
>>749576557You really have to wonder about the BDSM clubs Barker used to frequent, where hooks and skin-peeling were apparently standard practice.
>>749554326He's allegedly had if for quite some time. His ex spilled the beans after a nasty split. Not confirmed but he was in a coma after a dental procedure years ago from an infection, so it seems plausible.
Are the comics any good?
>>74957703280s era BDSM before the advent of the internet and all the resources on how to safely to do things, as well as the big push in the kink community for SSC or RACK, were pretty insane. Even now, at some of the BDSM club events I've gone to people were doing needeplay as a spectacle, though my favorite to watch is always fireplay since it's just something in the primal grugg brain that likes fire
>>749547668https://vimeo.com/75534042
>>749575972AND I CAME.AND I CAME AGAIN.AND AGAIN.AND AGAIN.
>>749572824i mean considering stellar blade got censored for less, this is pmuch porn by sony's standards
>>749550189Weird shit happens boundary layers.
>>749535372why is reddit like this?
>>749559607It's weird how much she looks like a homosexual man's concept of what a beautiful woman is.
>>749577245The older stuff bretty good anthology horror ala creepshow, but I haven't read the newer stuff
>>749535372I thought it was a pretty good AA resident evil-like. My playthrough lasted about 11 hours on hard and I enjoyed most of it. Some small shortcomings but on the other hand I didn't pay full price either. Solid 8/10Gaming's still good.
>>749580183Clive Barker directed the first movie.
>>749542404And in the book it was a guy who desires summons it and Hell priest pinhead goes>You sure nigga>you really sure?>There's no takebacks2, I think at least 3 consensual seeking. Then Kristy does it by accident and the engineer is just clicky clack get in the sack bitch.>>749544039Pinhead seems to be more respectful of the rules. Not sure if it was in 2 or another where he has to tell the other cenobites "Quit being retards, we're just taking this one person"
>>749580321wait i thought he hated the first movie
>>749580349No, he loved the first film. Said he loved the cast and it was a passion project with no studio interference. He doesn't like the later sequels.
>>749535372Game seems pretty good to me and it has overwhelming positive on steam.
>>749573120Yeah, I found that video rather interesting. The whole Want is not pleasure is important for the context of why people stick around on 4chan or other addictions long after it is pleasant.>>749577032If you read some of the testimonials of gays who experienced the gay culture of the late 70s and early 80s it's a bacchinalia of sex and perversion that is more than just 'sex with a lot of guys'. For the Marquis de Sade to have come up with the absolutely filthy narrative he did circa 1800 that kind of depravity had to exist in some comprehendible capacity, not just a fever dream of his mind. I know from a book on the French conquest of Morocco that in the turn of the century Paris you could find brothels where you could watch a hot woman torture a rat with pin needles. So Barker coming across hooks and skin peeling in 1980s NYC is eminently believable, and I imagine tip of the iceberg.Frankly it's tinfoil hat to not believe that we haven't had some rich and famous people do some snuff molochian shit. Not that they all do, but it's a conspiracy of positivity to not believe there's some real life serbian film/saw material out there.
>>749576079There's a free demo.
>>749563703You have to at least give them some credit, they made sure the theme's of the cult members storys where aligned with the main story's themes, something a lot of modern titles somehow fail at doing.The sense of cohesion is fairly refreshing.
Anyone notice the guy you pull the knife out of has a raging hard-on?
>>749582256Aidan sure didn't until the guy got pissed at him, lmao.
>>749554926>watching the OG>Frank wears his brother's skin>it perfectly fits to his different skeleton>it perfectly holds to his musculature, despite having been flayed and then worn with no connective tissue>it takes GO TO HELL girl ten lightyears to realize he has a huge fucking hole in the back of his head with bloodThe skin-wearing has always been retarded.
>>749583571Also Frank suddenly has Larry's blue eyes and voice.
What is sex with a cenobite like?
>>749570906The child very much wanted to know what was in the box. Just be glad it was a 'nice' Cenobite who was willing to kindly guide him to Hell instead of immediately ripping him apart with barbed chains and fisting his ass inside out.
Inventory space is too fucking LIMITED god DAMN
>>749571982>genuine implication that he'd have taken him to Hell if he just agreed even if he doesn't have a clue what's going onFuck Leviathan and fuck the Labryinth.
>>749585113FUCK
>>749558204100% wouldve been a better budget movie to see in theaters or on some horror service like shutter/A24 or some shit. giving us a choice at the end is kinda of stupid cause why wouldnt you say fuck it and peer into the void?>>749553049I keep seeing all the censored stuff but are the tits on sunny decent?
>>749580349He was involved with the first two films but stepped away once the studio started to make it another generic slasher franchise, hence the rapid drop in quality.
>>749585561>cause why wouldnt you say fuck it and peer into the void?Because I do not like having hooked chains shoved into my urethra as I'm forced to experience all the sensation ever?
>>749585113Bro, your prison pocket?
