Was Wonderland simply too hard to navigate without a guide and badly designed?
No. It's brilliant.
Wonderland and Deep Jungle are the worst levels in the game.
It's shit, but she motivated me to keep trying, and then I got through it.
I beat the entire game when I was 9, why are tendies and zoomzooms so developmentally stunted?
wonderland can be completed by entering 4 rooms, people are just braindeaddeep jungle is legit designed retardedly purely because it has excessive amounts of backtracking and guessing where the fuck you need to go.Traverse town can also be very annoying if you do not realise you need to enter the accessory store a second time to spawn the leon fightt. played the games to death
>>749557580>Tweets protected>Persona bannerLmao
>>749557415Wonderland is the best world in the game, but you're right about Deep Jungle being the worst.
Just finished KH2's prologue. I think this may genuinely be the greatest game of all time.
Kingdom Hearts has the best level design in the series. They dumbed everything down in the later games to cater to the button-masher crowd.
>>749557176Traverse Town on the first visit, Wonderland and Deep Jungle are all horribly designed because they rely on triggering cutscenes that advance the story by revisiting specific rooms with no indication you're supposed to do so. I don't know why they thought that was a good idea, especially since the later worlds don't have that problem. I guess they wanted players to wander around, level up and get used to the controls or something?Either way it adds 20 minutes of mild frustration at worst and if you don't have zoomer brainrot it's not a huge issue.
>>749559257Wait til you finish the whole game. The prologue is unfortunately the most polished part of the game until you reach the final world.
>>749559257Classic.
>>749559257I thought so as well when I finished the prologue for the first time 20 years ago, but the problem is that it doesn't get that good again until the literal final couple of hours. Enjoy nothing happening in the story for the next 40 hours. The bane of both KH2 and KH3.
Fake outrage from 1 Twitter account. Also the level isn’t hard it just a sucks and it’s awful
>>749559185Hollow Bastion is the best by virtue of being the only good one. Still love the game though.
>>749557176I disliked the Aladdin map myself.
All the worlds besides Traverse Town and Hollow Bastion are poop from a butt, the level design is overrated as hell
>>749557176No, the level and puzzle design in KH1 is a big part of why its the best game in the franchise.
>>749559980Halloween town is peak>Trek out of town towards a giant spiralling tower as you climb it and face the bosses before having to take down the tower you just climbed
>>749559384where did all these retards who got filtered by fucking Traverse Town of all places suddenly come from?
Crazy how KH is still so popular despite being old as fuck and releasing every 10 years
>>749560251Traverse town itself is straight forward but if you miss even one cutscene trigger you can have yourself be going in circles over and over not knowing you need to trigger donaldand goofy moving like 5 times before returning to the accessory shop
>game i beat when i was 10 and doesn't have level design anymore complicated than something you'd find in zelda or paper mario>rereleased to grown adults on social media going "DUHHHH WHAT DO I DO WHERE DO I GO???" in a world that doesn't have more than 5 rooms
>>749557415I liked Deep Jungle because of how its your first introduction to getting disney characters as additional party members and it's someone cool like tarzan replacing donald and goofy. I felt the same way about getting beast replacing them later in hollow bastion.Wonderland did feel like the absolute worst first impression to the game's main shtick being visiting disney worlds. They both suffered from you struggling because you don't get cure yet.
>>749560410>Traverse town itself is straight forward but if you miss even one cutscene trigger you can have yourself be going in circles over and over not knowing you need to trigger donaldand goofy moving like 5 times before returning to the accessory shopAnon...Literally all of the donald/goofy cutscenes are optional. The actual trigger is that the game just checks to see if you've killed 5 heartless after leaving 1st district.
>>749559257>>749559491Having the prologue be so damn long really was a power move.>Yeah bitch, you see that? The fucking title just showed up on the screen. That means all that was just the prologue. Now you're imagining how long the actual game is.
>>749560469Every video game remake is subject to this. Remember the Crash N. Sane trilogy and people claiming it was more difficult than Dark Souls or whatever?Watch when the Ocarina of Time remake comes out and people on Twitter cry about not figuring out how to get inside Dodongo's Cavern despite the numerous hints the game offers.
>>749560665no.... it can't be
>>749560469>>749560905You people overestimate the intelligence of the average “gamer”, pic related has never been an exception.
>>749557415If you talk to Jane she tells you where to go
zoomers getting filtered by older games is a patience issue not a intelligence one.Attention span deficiency
>>749560251It's counterintuitive to go backwards in the modern gaming environment and the cutscenes with Donald and Goofy make it look like you're progressing when what you actually have to do is turn around and go back to the first district.
>>749559257Back in 2006 brainlets complained the prologue was too long and boring so we never got anything that kino ever againAlso watch Dark City 1998 its where Nomura stole KH2 from lol
>>749561215>Also watch Dark City 1998 its where Nomura stole KH2 from lolAnd now Re:Zero stole Arc 6 from KHII prologue.It's like poetry, it rhymes.
>Be me>Finish KH2's prologue>Friend's like, "Isn't that incredible?">Me: idgiAnd I still don't get it. It's good because... some 2deep4u shit happens about people living inside other people and oh, here's Sora again, what a surprise?
>>749560251Their mothers from 1997 to 2012
>>749561343It;s like supposed to be sad that Roxas is becoming one with Sora
>>749561343Roxas got Truman'd and instead of leaving, he fucking dies until he doesn't
>>749560251Switch zoomers finally got a native port
>>749560469>>749560905Back then kids were simply more patient with games, mostly because they typically only had a handful of games and you couldn't just easily download ROM packs off the internet and give yourself choice paralysis. Older games were meant to be restarted and replayed over and over, getting better at the early stages and being more prepared and skilled for the challenging ending.Nowadays in this era of rampant consumerism where even furniture is expendable, video games have been treated as a checklist rather than something to experience. Savestates and Rewinds are the norm because any slight roadbump will prevent the average gamer from finishing it and cause them to write it off as a shoddily made farce that prevents them from finishing the game. The playthrough must immediately be a series of lucky breaks and perfect choices, rather than something that must be worked towards over the course of how long it'd take to master the game.
>>749561343Nobodies are like if when you get depressed you feel like a hallow shell of your former self. Hence they're bodies of Heartless. But Roxas became a real person now there can only be Sora or Roxas to be complete.
>>749561343How would you feel if your individuality was taken from you and stuffed inside someone else?
>>749557176What exactly are modern players getting stuck on in Wonderland? I've played the game too many times to make a fair assessment.>>749557415Deep Jungle yes, Wonderland no. Deep Jungle suffers from too much repetition. I'd definitely say Neverland is worse than Wonderland. It has its moments but it's far too short, the ship interiors are boring, and it has the worst camera. Monstro is worse too. Wonderland is ludo actually.
>>749561887>Monstro is worse too.Just follow the green doors, dude. Also, I love Monstro maps thanks to DDD. Flowmotion GOOD.
>>749561343Roxas is just a kid who got his life robbed from him. Keep in mind the Roxas kino doesn’t end there in 2
>>749561978Brother I've played KH1 so many times I have every world memorized. I played that shit at release on PS2. I'm just saying in terms of overall quality Monstro is worse than Wonderland, has nothing to do with navigating it, as I said I can't even make a fair assessment on that anymore.
>>749559257Just sucks that the Disney worlds feel lackluster because they were cut in half.
>>749560326There's a lot of doomposting about "oh man after kh3 the series is so fucking finished no one likes it anymore" and "kh4 is going to flop" but honestly, with how much the game sells with each collection release (with the exception of the Epic Games Store release) like when it got a Steam port and now a true Switch port, and the fact that KH4 is going to be on every platform at launch, it's pretty much impossible for it to flop. Even most of the disappointment on KH3 is due to the long wait of it not living up to its actual release, but newcomers don't experience that and also get Critical Mode and Re:Mind right off the bat which arguably bumped the game from a 7/10 to a 9/10.
I don't like how KH2's prologue is irrelevant to most of the story. Roxas might as well not be inside Sora until the end. Compare it with KH1 where Kairi being inside Sora was foreshadowed several times. Her feelings would pop up when Sora encountered certain things, like seeing a slide of a castle in Deep Jungle.It's even worse if you factor in Days where Roxas actually went to Disney worlds. Why didn't Roxas feel anything when Sora visited any of them?In general KH2 suffers from a lack of care put into the moment to moment writing, the main plot is divorced from the majority of the content.
>>749562659>it's pretty much impossible for it to flop.KH III sold 7 million and "everyone heted it".KH IV will sell atleast 5 million and as far as we know, KH are made for cheap (Osaka devs vs Tokyo devs)
I was surprised how quickly I went through wonderland and jungle replaying game recently after 20 years. If pay attention to cutscenes and talk to jane its easy to know where to go. I guess I was retarded as a kid but also muscle memory kicked in probably
Wonderland didn't give me any trouble, Deep Jungle was annoying because I couldn't find how to go back to the starting area because the vines leading to it in the vine swinging maps are hard to spot. The only other notable annoying area to navigate was Neverland, more like Never See A Fucking Thing Because The Camera Is So Ass.Now let's talk about the absolute bullshit that is the giant Ursula fight.
>>749561445>>749561497>>749561757>>749561774>>749562087This makes no sense to me.
>>749562723>I don't like how KH2's prologue is irrelevant to most of the story. Roxas might as well not be inside Sora until the end.Roxas "dying" stopped OrgXIII plans for a while. They had to put some bullshit on the move so Sora could do the heart collecting. Remember, before Sora/Riku got the Keyblade, the OrgXIII were doing jackshit progress on getting KH built, they were doing sideplots for a decade and so.
>>749562871Did you finish the game, yes or no?
>>749560868Nier Automata has the real title screen 60 hours into the game after you've already seen the (fake) credits twice. I think that has yet to be topped.
>>749560905The Ocarina remake is going to handhold all those points where people used to get stuck. We've already seen it in what they've shown so far.
>>749557580average personafag
>>749562869The big fights are a cool idea but the actual execution is annoying because it's non-stop hit and run tactics. You have no dodge so you have to play like a pussy.Though casting Aeroga on Donald and Goofy and sicking them on final Ansem is very funny.
>>749562962getting to ending E takes nowhere near 60 hours
>>749561343This was the most common sentiment back in the day. And the reason is that most players were kids/teenagers then and didn't understand it. When I played it with two friends, one of them didn't get it at all while me and the other friend(who were the smart ones in the trio) did and thought it was amazing.Yet here you are, presumably an adult, and as dumb as a dumb kid.
>>749563072>We've already seen it in what they've shown so far.I haven't been following the remaster, what did they change?
society has mentally degenerated to a point where grown men get filtered by puzzles made for children
>>749560905To be fair the Crash remaster has scuffed physics, they made Crash's feet pill-shaped so you slip off of surfaces a lot easier, compared to the original's square-shaped feet that were more reliable. They unironically made the game harder by accident, and people chalked that up to "old game = hard" rather than developer incompetence.
>>749563141I found it funny how after fighting the giant demon dude who loves spamming some massive eruption AoE and keeps ducking so locking on keeps changing your position and making even harder to see anything you get this kind of air dodge ability, only it doesn't work while you're flying, there's barely anything left of the game after you get it AND the final boss is another flying segment.
>>749562659Reasons why KH4 might flop:1) KH3 sold too well, setting a high bar2) KH4 is entirely based on a dead mobile gacha3) KH4 only has 5 Disney worlds, 3 of which are of properties 30-60 years old (lmao)4) Every SE game has been flopping as of late
>>749563175Maybe not if you rush through the game on normal mode and don't do the sidequests. 40 hours then.
>>749563334Yeah Superglide is basically to just make 100%ing worlds slightly easier.
>>749563251Quest log telling you where to go next, more obvious solutions to puzzles(big eyeball switch in the Deku Tree where you used to have to shoot a ladder to drop it down, for example), and the water temple has the yellow paint from the 3DS version.
>>749563175Skipping all the side content means you didn't really play the game and you aren't a person.
>>749563141>sickingLearn English.
>>749557415Wonderland is the best world in the SERIES by farThe tarzan one sucks
>>749562659>but newcomers don't experience that and also get Critical Mode and Re:Mind right off the bat which arguably bumped the game from a 7/10 to a 9/10I don't know if you're using journalist scores where anything below an 8 is pure garbage but I played 3 recently on crit and while it's not as bad as I thought it would be considering what people say about it on here, I would not call it nowhere near a 9. I'd give it a 7 on a good day but it's more like a 6. It wasn't a bad game but it was a downgrade from 1 and 2.
>>749557176Got a better question, how good do you think Kingdom Hearts 4 is going to sell? My guess is maximum three million units even if its on all consoles because Kingdom Hearts has lost a lot of goodwill across the years. The series has become way too terrible. Not to mention using Modern Disney is begging for failure. And no newcomer is going to go through the entire series collections merely to understand what's going on in Kingdom Hearts 4.This series is too much of a mess. The fact Sora has less views on his trailer for Smash than Sephiroth should clue you in that Kingdom Hearts has lost much of its popularity.
>>749563510Oh no I misspelled a word (by one letter) people barely use that sounds like another word! How about you focus on all the ESLs who have flooded this board with garbage, retard?
>>749563550>He didn't play Re:Mind.Base III is an 8, Re:Mind is a 10/10, beautiful stuff.
>>749563550Did you play Re:Mind?
>>749561154This. As a zoomoid, I found that reading more helps a lot with attention. It really sucks that video games don't do the same unless you play specific genres
>>749563715>>749563745I am in the middle of Re:Mind, only reached the data battles the other day but still haven't beaten a single one.
>>749563550Not him but did you do the Re:Mind stuff? I don't think dumping 14 fantastic boss fights on you after completing the whole game objectively warrants raising the review score, but for me it certainly left me with a great experience instead of an above average one as on release.
>>749563695>Kingdom Hearts has lost a lot of goodwill across the yearsIt hasn't lol.Square-Enix just stopped putting out games. In large part because handhelds died out. My guess is Melody of Memories was a test to see if people would accept spin-offs on consoles, and it failed (because it was a rhythm game asset flip).>The fact Sora has less views on his trailer for Smash than Sephiroth should clue you in that Kingdom Hearts has lost much of its popularity.You're retarded.
playing KH for the first time.Im surprised by how small and shit the levels are
I got through Wonderland just fine.
>>749559257the prologue is deceivingly good. I played kh2 without a memory card for a long time and thought I was missing out on the game but no the prologue is the game. #FreeMyNiggaRoxas
>>749559534Atleast we had the battle for hollow bastion.
>>749563695>Kingdom Hearts has lost a lot of goodwill across the yearsLiterally every time it does a rerelease of ports of 20+ year old ps2 games it sells gangbusters, and Disney has finally started to increase the push for it as of recent like with the Fortnite and Rocket League collabs.If anything goodwill is increasing.
>>749563715>>749563745Re:Mind itself is absolute trash though. The data battles and Yozora are great but they're post-postgame content. If anything, the core game itself is made worse by Re:Mind because playing through the whole last part of the game again while the devs frantically try to retcon all their terrible writing and missed opportunities is not a great experience, it's pathetic. Shit everyone hated that we screwed over Kairi again, quick give her a boss battle. Shit everyone hated that everyone except Sora and Roxas are jobbers, quick give them cool fighting scenes. Shit we forgot to explain why turning back time suddenly causes the Lingering Will to appear out of nowhere, quick come up with an explanation. And so on.
>>749563963They get better. There's a reason this thread is about how much the early levels suck. The last couple levels especially are genuinely great.
>>749559534>>749564069Yeah when people wank KH2 they always think about the prologue, second hallow bastion visit and the end/post game, conveniently forgetting just how fucking mediocre the disney worlds are2 has the highest peaks in the series but 1 is overall the better game
>>749557176No, but Deep Jungle was
>>749564139There's no way they developed the enterity of ReMind in 1 year. Almost all the stuff we got was already planned to be in but they weren't able to put it in time. The one thing they have confirmed was done by fan demand was bringing the FF characters back for Limit Cut.
>>749563695Star Wars will bring people in droves
>>749557176I never had trouble with it as a kid. The worlds I had trouble with were Tarzan and Atlantica.
>>749564171>Kingdom Hearts 3 sold a mere seven million unitsThat's a fuck ton of copies and the best KH title ever.
>>749564118>If anything goodwill is increasing.They're just trying to stir up nostalgia ahead of KH4's release.This thread, too, is probably paid shilling.
>>749557176Nope you just had to _____GIT GUD_____
>>749564484He's not from Earth. He is a fantasy human
>>749564523Do people really care about Star Wars these days? Asking genuinely, I don't think I've ever thought about that franchise in probably over a decade.
>>749564523>100 year old franchise will bring children in droves
>>749557176Has Sora ever fucked a Disney princess? He had to have NTR’d at least one of those prince charmings.
>>749564587they care about old starwars and the leaks show the star wars world is from tatooine up to return of the jedi and nothing from the modern movies
>>749564498That doesn't contradict anything I said. If they'd replaced the original finale with an improved one where things make sense and characters get to do stuff, that would be an improvement, but instead the experience is now that you do the original version and then the retconned version back to back, which amounts to repeating all the same mediocre boss fights with minor differences twice, and I remember some of the scenes actually being WORSE the second time. It's shit.
>>749560469Ohh to go back to the days of no internet and social media.
>>749564373>That is NOT a good thingIt literally is it means Disney finally started to acknowledge the popularity of the series and its potential as a huge draw for the company in the vidya department.
>>749564587I like andor and the racing game.
The only badly designed world in KH1 is deep jungle. It's so badly designed that tarzan just magically has pyshic powers and knows where jane is without any evidence, he just knows for no reason near the end of the world just so they can tell the player where to go.
>>749564587Andor is legitimately a good show. That’s about it
>>749560905>Watch when the Ocarina of Time remake comes out and people on Twitter cry about not figuring out how to get inside Dodongo's Cavern despite the numerous hints the game offers.The Water Temple is going to be glorious
I must once again ask if anyone knows how the new Switch collection performs, and what the difference is between it and the Switch 2 versions? Also to clarify right away, the new Switch collection is not the same as the old cloud collection which was also on the Switch.
>>749564932Why would you buy on Shitch if you can buy it on PC where it works perfectly?
>>749564907They already turned easy mode on 3DS, they are going to make it even easier.
>>749564932everything but 0.2 and kh3 runs stable 60 fpskh3 seemingly has actual frame issues dipping below 30 ive read.
>>749557176just to get through? it wasn't that bad, to get everything you had to be pretty methodic and check everything
The same “adults” struggling with kingdom hearts are the same ones who look up builds for action rpgs because they are too stupid to engage with gameplay.
>>749564932>I must once again ask if anyone knows how the new Switch collection performs1080p60fps on dock. 720p60fps handheld with slowdowns during effects heavy fights (mostly noticeable in KH III). 4k60fps on dock Switch2, 1080p60fps on handheld.
>>749565136>Kingdom Hearts if it has anything decent about its because Nomura and his team have certain standards but Disney?Nomura has creative control. Start to worry when he retires/dies.
>>749564572>best KH title ever.NTA, but you're out of your mind.
>>749557176some of the 1-way doors were a little annoying since they force backtracking around to get back to where you were, but it really wasnt that bad.
>>749565475It is the only competitor is II FM.III has better worlds, graphics, combat and music. II has a better prologue/climax and world selection.
>>749557176How could it possibly be? It's a very small area. I get if you played it as a very little kid but otherwise come on.
>>749557176I wouldn't say too hard, but if someone got stuck there I get it. And the rest of the game never has that same problem
>KH collection on PS5 requires content download>Switch 2 is a fucking game key card (need I say more?)KH4 isn't going to get a true physical release is it?
>>749565548>bunch of pissant dogshit >better than nomura kinoNomura supersedes any of the trash new or old guard of Disney. Same way tomino is leagues ahead of Lucas’ kiddo space fantasy
>>749565548We don't know the nitty gritty of the deal/collaboration. We know for sure that the IP is Disney but we don't know if they can shop it around so anyone outsed of Nomura/SE can develop the games/story.
>>749565651Forgot attention grabbing pic but whatever
>>749561343The full weight of the prologue isn't meant to hit until you reach a very specific boss fight towards the end of the game, and that is quite literally by design. You not getting it yet is INTENTIONAL, and 99% of retards who played this game has completely lost the fucking plot on the fact that most of 2 isn't supposed to make sense throughout most of it because the entire carrot on the stick is "okay but WHY is this happening, who the FUCK is this, WHY is EVERYONE pulling mystery shit around me??" while giving you bitesized answers here and there to pull you along.Anyone who claims you're supposed to fully understand the prologue is a fucking retard who probably also assumes everyone reads ultimania interviews and knows shit the games have never and will never acknowledge or answer.
>>749565651KH collection is like 150gb+ so they would have to make 2 disks and they are not going to do that
>>749565821DiZ out and out calls Roxas a Nobody to his face. You should be able to intuit the rest from there.
>>749562659>Even most of the disappointment on KH3 is due to the long wait of it not living up to its actual releaseThis
Funny to thing Sora is just a shambling soul for most of 1 endgame-COM-2
>>749565874The game quite literally does not explain what a Nobody is until after the prologue. How the fuck are you supposed to know the full context of what's going on, unless you ALREADY PLAYED THE GAME or got spoiled ahead of time?Of course anyone with emotional maturity can tell it's a tragic sequence that ends with Roxas "disappearing" into Sora because of what Namine ominously claims "won't actually happen", but it isn't until you revisit Twilight Town the second time as Sora when it's supposed to sink in the full extent of the prologue's intent with Roxas. Lest you forget what the fucking target audience for this game is.
>>749566261>The game quite literally does not explain what a Nobody is until after the prologue.I'm pretty sure that DiZ infodumps in the middle of it and Namine tells you everything at the end. I also laugh everytime DiZ says "NOBODIES" like a slur.
>>749565027Because I bought it on PC as soon as it released about two years ago now I think, and it hard crashed to desktop whenever I opened a menu during KH1, refunded it within less than an hour.
>>749565053>>749565154That's the Switch 2 version, dunkasses. The Switch 1 version obviously doesn't have KH3 or 0.2 at all. The rest should run fine.
>>749566261You were supposed to come into 2 after COM, you should understand that the organisation have something to do with it
>>749565154>>749565053I'm only interested in 1 and 2 so this is perfect, thanks for the information. I didn't even realise 3 was in the Switch versions, I can't see it running on the Switch.
>>749564753>2002>no internet and social mediawut
>>749566445>Kingdom Hearts doesn't really ooze merchandise bait.Right now there's a civil war over KH exclusive Disneyland Keyblade pins.KH has been a merchandise powerhouse since Day 1.
>>749557176Wonderland was fucking sick and I was sad KH2 never did anything as bold with its level design, imagine hating a nonlinear map with wacky non-euclidean geometry and gravity fuckery.
>>749565821This post is a classic example of a stupid person being unable to comprehend that others are much smarter than them.Nothing about the prologue remains a mystery or unexplained past the first hour of playing as Sora (when Yen Sid explains how Nobodies and Heartless work) if you are a smart person. There are no hanging threads.Oh, and Roxas wasn't even a boss fight in the original version by the way.
>>7495606655 heartless or entering the third district iirc
>>749566568You can't see 2019 game running on a 2025 console?
>>749566390DiZ effectively used it as a slur. Dude hated nobodies.TBF they destroyed his life/world/everything.
>>749566568>>749564932You are being replied to by idiots who can't read and think you are talking about the Switch 2 versions.
>>749566660The Switch, not the Switch 2. I can see how you missed that though if you didn't follow the whole chain of posts.
>>749561497KH3 deciding to bring back everyone and give them happy endings was dumb.
>>749566471Absolutely correct, yet more than 80% of players on release intentionally skipped CoM for obvious reasons and therefore had no idea. Not only that, but Nomura outright intentionally played into the fact that most players likely did not play Chain of Memories, and because of it, the prologue has a unique experience for those who didn't besides those who did. Anyone who played CoM knows what's going on, and learning the BHK is Sora's Nobody was fucking earthshattering back then.>>749566390DiZ uses it as a slur aggressively and constantly belittles Roxas to trick you, the player, into thinking he's some flagrant evil asshole old man and trick you into thinking he's probably the final boss (I mean, the game focuses on his eye a good 13 times throughout the prologue) who has a connection to Ansem Seeker of Darkness (including the seemingly random laughing fit when "Ansem" introduces himself).It isn't until you play as Sora that the game finally sits you down and gives you the rundown. But again, it's ASSUMING you haven't played Chain of Memories, and the vast, vast majority did not, in fact, do so. I also loved it any time DiZ gave that word the Hard B
>>749557176no it's more likely that you're retarded guy I'm sorry
>>749559491>>749560868Still really cool how a game on GBA hinted at him.
>>749566590Dunno what anon was talking when he said no internet, but social media only amounted to forums and online games like GaiaOnline and Club Penguin. Good times.
>>749562962I had a lot of complaints about Automata’s storytelling and gameplay but I fully cede that the title dropping after the prelude to route C was peak as fuck
>>749557176I believe you only need one piece of evidence for the trial unless you want that early Blizzard, and lighting the torches in the Bizarre room is pretty simple enough. Anything else is just a bonus unless you're going for 100% and is arguably good design for an adaption of fucking WONDERLAND
>>749566795Comparing KH to Beyond Good and Evil is quite possibly the most disingenuous comparison you could've made.
>kh1 >endearing story>beloved final fantasy characters meet disney>kh2>convoluted mess of a story>just some final fantasy characters meet disney>Kh3>whateverthefuck that was >kh4>....
>>749563367>KH4 only has 5 Disney worldsWhat. Also, what worlds, did they finally include Atlantis or Treasure Planet?
>>749560868>>749559491>>749559257>>749566873Having to buy a separate console to understand the story to this day is super ass
>>749566976If you weren't writing crackhead FF world theories on Ansem Report you are not and never will be a true KH fan
>>749567186Star WarsZootopiaHaunted MansionCocoToy StoryThere's also something called Monochrome Origins which is Timeless River but about Oswald
>>749563367* no final fantasy at ALL, press triangle to AWESOME, no summons, no endearing story, hideous ue 5 slop artstyle
>>749567248>Star Warsim so fucking glad i dropped the series after kh2 holy shit
>>749567593>Sincerely hope this one is not happeningAll achievements got leaked so it's 100% confirmed
>>749563367>3 of which are of properties 30-60 years oldThat's a good thing though, modern Disney sucks, the less of it the better.
>>749567721The point is that the game won't sell because children don't know the properties the DIsney worlds are based on
>>749567593It got leaked on steam achievements get ready for Star Wars fans and furfags
>>749567784Usually old films aren't an issue if they are quality that stand the test of time like say Alice in Wonderland did. In fact when first released Alice in Wonderland was a failure for Disney. However during home media sales Disney saw how successful the film was and it became a classic. Now then modern shit like Moana, Coco, Encanto, Zootopia, none of these shitty movies are going to stand the test of time. Especially Zootopia, Encanto, Coco, and Raya with its shitty messages and awful morals like, you need to allow your enemies to betray you even when you know its going to happen (that's from Raya).
>>749567248Star Wars, Coco and Zootopia of all things get two revisits while Quadratem gets 5
>>749557176No. It was fine. People are just stupid now a days.
>>749567784Everyone knows Star Wars and rubber hose cartoons, and kids know Toy Story, Zootopia and Coco what the fick are you talking about?
>>749567983That's going to be annoying, I can already see the shitty furries demanding that all the characters get permanently turned into anthro animals for the remainder of the franchise. Basically grab all the humans and pull a Ninja Turtles and mutate them into animals without ever returning them back to human form.
>>749567248>ZootopiaSo what furry are they turning Sora into? Probably a lion.
>>749568160>Everyone knows Star WarsNot kids
>>749557415You can't say that when the game has Atlantica and Monstro
>>749559257KH1 has intentional, amazing level design and combat throughoutKH2 has themed hallways with flashy, shallow combatI HATE Kingdom Hearts 2 with a passion
>>749566860Mufasa though...
>>749568160They know of old stuff like Godzilla and King Kong, but they don't care about it. Even Toy Story 5 selling well doesn't mean much except that Millennials are idiot Disney Adults who need to be eradicated.
>>749568220His original beta design
>>749567248>Star WarsI... don't care for this. It's either gonna be set in the original trilogy or sequel>ZootopiaInteresting, anthro Lion Sora inbound>Haunted MansionDon't think Eddie will show up, but hey, spooky level>CocoOf course knew about that one>Toy StoryHuh, alrighty, they gonna pull that "two worlds" thing again?But again... why only five? Excluding original worlds, KH1 had 9, 2 had 12 (even if Atlantica was just QTEs) and 3 had 8, all this time in development and we're only getting five Disney lands? Pulling up TP again, because that WAS planned for DDD, why not give another crack at it?
>>749566614>>749566445There's a 3000 dollar Kingdom Hearts chair on the Square Enix storehttps://www.kh13.com/news/kingdom-hearts-chesterfield-sofa-available-for-pre-order-via-square-enix-e-store-october-2023-shipments-r3797/
>>749568343Nomura said that the worlds are extremely big so that's why there are less of them
>>749568318Getting real tired of this shitty response. That old design for Sora is kemomimi hence him having a human face its not anthro. The animals from Zootopia are full blown anthros with snouts. Sora would transform into an anthro or maybe Sora won't have a transformation this time around because Donald isn't around to do it for him. Honestly that sounds more interesting because Sora staying human would freak out the anthros who wouldn't recognize his species.
>>749557176Im glad people are finally realizing that Wonderland is a garbage world with shit level design. Especially for being one of the first worlds you are exposed to.
>>749568343Quadratem is going to be a major chunk of the game, Scala and the keyblade graveyard are also back
>>749568404>The item is discontinued and no longer available
>>749568280He's a Disney character, the original characters for the original story of Kingdom Hearts never have to deal with permanent death. Sora could die and reincarnate into a new world where he's richer than Bruce Wayne.
>>749558824Have some fucking respect for the dead.
>>749568220He can't be a Lion because he needs to be around the size of at the very least Nick, or somewhere in between him and Judy
>>749568428Extremely big means fetch quests filler trash like FF7 Rebirth
>>749568343It's wepisode 6. Endor and an ATST foot were in the very first trailer. Haunted Mansion is most likely the attraction not an amovie adaptation of it but Im just guessing. Monochrome Origins is a Disney world, and the Underworld is another world with Donald andd Goofy. Scala Ad Caelum is an OC world but you play as Mickey and I think the 100 acre woods are back? They're going to be bigger, SW probably has multiple planets and Quadratum has lots of return visits and maybe a Wall e cameo
>>749568604Nick is puny in-universe, Sora being a lion cub(no mane) would be a good middle ground for being taller than the guest characters but smaller than the biggest characters. Though he looks taller in promo materials so idk.
>>749568428Oh joy, hope they learned from KH3's Caribbean that all the space doesn't automatically equal good. Still, wished Atlantis or TP got it.>>749568527Cool cool, still worried from a story stand point since Missing Link got canned, since that was supposedly integral to 4's plot.
>>749568568He literally reincarnated into a 5 star flat with a cute gf ready to go
>>749568221I've heard is that Darth Vader is straight up universally loved by kids. It's either his design's sheer aura or maybe there's a star wars gene
I beat II without realizing there was a dodgeroll/dash/fly mechanic so I spent the whole game walking over to a boss just to whack him like 2 times before he teleported. Great experience.
>>749568778Vader’s just cool, simple as that. Plus he’s the most developed character even in the original
>>749568539>selling out of insanel expensivemerch means KH has no merch potentialWat
>>749562659I was massively disappointed by the story in KH3 and don't give a shit about where the plots going anymore. But as long as the games are still fun to play, I'll keep buying them. I assume there are others like me. KH4 will almost certainly sell well. Any instance of Kingdom Hearts Return to Innocence 7.7 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity (2005 Remaster) probably won't do so hot though.
>>749568718Mignola's artstyle is so fucking good
>>749558824*sigh*Source?
The worst part of KH1 is Traverse Town (first run through). Destiny Islands is cozy and a fun opening that is decently well paced. Early worlds are all fine (Wonderland is fine, Deep Jungle is fun, and Olympus Colosseum is basic but the fights are cool and Cloud is in it).By comparison, I understand the hate for Twilight Town in KH2 because it takes so long for any real action to happen but I enjoy the plot a lot. I don't give a shit about Mulan and don't actually remember other early worlds.
>>749567248I don’t know what they’re gonna do for 5 & 6 given that Disney only makes sequels now>Marvel/Battleworld>The Muppets Show>Wall-E>Princess & The Frog?They won’t do the Invincibles because that’s too similar to Marvel and is the easier cashgrab. I guess maybe the Simpsons but I don’t know if the Japanese even like them.
Namine love
>>749568954Just kill 5 Heartless and walk 360 degrees backwards
>>749568432>ree feed me furry fetish porn or you are evil naziiii!energy, go rope and yiff in hell furry not everything is about your autogyneophilia. furries like you who demand everything to be enshittified to your preferences are subhuman.
>>749569083Eat shit and die I don't want furry trash in this series. What part of Sora remaining human would be better do you think means I want furry garbage? Your mother should have aborted you or flushed you down the shitter.
>>749568989My dream KH world list is:>Return to Oz>Mary Poppins>Black Hole>Atlantis>Treasure Planet>Xfiles
>>749569220But anon I yiffed to Lion Pete 20 years ago and I'll do it again this is a threat
>>749569273>>Return to OzThis one will never happen because that movie is a failure. Its a failure like Disney's Something Wicked This Way Comes.And you got to remember that Oz has lost a lot of popularity and cultural relevance across the generations. And no Wicked is not a symbol of success its a disgusting bastardization of the story pretending evil criminals are innocent victims.
>>749569273>Mary PoppinsFuck I’d kill for that
Here's something that had been on my mind in regards to KH4. How much do you think has cost to make it? We know KH3 was 100million usd. And with the relative increases in budget from other game studios do you think that is will be around the same or more for this one. And how much do you believe it will take to make the game profitable. Like copies sold and stuff. Cause they also need to make back money on their failed projects like missing link, forspoken and the many mobile games they shut down. >>749568604We see him as a lion in KH2. Just do that again but with the ability to walk.>>749568721The GF is going to be Xehanort woman. People here and on other places have been saying so cause this game needing to fill up those SJW/Woke quotas and having a black man like Xehanort hook up with a white woman like Strelizia, is an easy way to do that. >>749569024Do you even need to kill five heartless in the original. I just remembered going into the shop where Cid was at, getting a cutscene, saving and then leaving, And after having to fight Squall.
>>749568718Kh3 carribean was great thoughbeit.It's only sin is that you're railroaded for most of it, but sailing and exploring islands was fun
>>749563458As someone who 100%ed the game, like 80% of the side content is a fucking slog that all human beings should feel perfectly justified in skipping. But it's also the worst feeling (non-licensed) platinum game, so that shouldn't really come as a surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIpVRw4WDnw
>>749568035People will remember Zootopia. Though probably not because of the movie itself
>>749557176The worlds aren't very kind to the player but you will figure it out sooner or later. It's just content farming like all the metroid videos how they can't get past a point because they didn't figure out how to morph into the ball.
I hate the opening of II, I don’t give a shit about Roxas or his gay friends, I just want to hang out with Goofy and Jack Sparrow.
>>749569863Nta but I hate that I know what you're implying.
>>749557580It's a family friendly game. Children can beat it. "Lack of decency regarding the ability to make progress"? What the fuck does that mean? I am so mad. KH1 is one of the most well-crafted games for that entire generation.
>>749569467Tron was a failure with a hell of a lot less relevance than one of the most iconic children's stories of all time and Tron Legacy was a flop too. Fucking Thee Musketeers got in I think Disney doesn't give a shit lol. The only ones we knew Disney vetoed were Pixar and Oswald, and I doubt Nomura cares that much about movies flopping
It will be funny when these people get to re com
>>749557580Imagine being this dog shit that you get filtered by the EASIEST VERSION OF KH1
>>749570060Zoomies can’t handle square/squaresoft kino
>>749569273>>749569479We probably would have gotten that in Missing-Link if it wasn't cancelled.
>>749567784Anon, KH1 had Wonderland, Pinocchio and Neverland, all based on films that were, at the time, 50 to 60 years old. The age of the animated movies never mattered. Hell, the only one that had something going at the time was Peter Pan since Return to Never Landcame out on VHS & DVD just one month before KH1's release.
>>749560665This.. this can't be true right? I've played KH1 like fifty times since it came out.
>>749557415>>749557176>>749558824zoomers are retarded and bad at gamesI had no problem on any of the levels as a 11 year old
>>749561887I loved Neverland and fighting Hook was fun.
Is COM actually better or is it just the same shit with really beautiful sprite work?
>>749570149What the fuck
>>749570292He's not lying, you never had to trigger all the D&G scenes. After the cutscene with Leon, if you book it to the Third District you get to finish Traverse Town
>>749570149>KH has its own autism language I love when games do this
>>749570394it was meant for grids and dpads imo
>>749569273Disney owns the wizard of Oz? Since when? No seriously since when?>>749569497>How much do you think has cost to make it?Bare minimum 250 millon usd. If we include advertising and marketing i can see it reaching over 300 million. >>749570060God if people can't even figure out KH1 then I worry for other game they may try to remake or re-release in the future like Chrono Trigger, Parasite Eve, Ehrgeiz and more. These games aren't that complicated.
>>749570096It's way harder to get Ultima Weapon in Final Mix than OG KH1 though
>>749569024>Just [undefined objective] and [unintuitive progression]The game indicates that you're supposed to arbitrarily bump into Donald and Goofy while exploring the second and third districts. Cid says some shit earlier about staying at his place for shelter, but why would you think of backtracking when after every entering every new area, there's a new cutscene with Donald and Goofy seemingly catching up to you?
>>749564171Kingdom Hearts was inconsistent back then, with each game being released on exclusive platforms, its crazy to me that the GBA game outsold the DS game. >Looks at Release DatesYep I think that’s the problem, Days and Recoded came too late in the DS life.
>>749570060Videoessays caused this brain rot in zoomers where if they ever struggle with something in a game it's always "bad design" it can never ever ever ever ever be the player's fault
>>749570149Hun??? This has to be bait. Where did people even find the means to translate this shit? It just looks so random like a bunch of symbols that don't mean anything.
>>749570449>It's fucking trueA dead ass started a new save when I saw the original post just to see if its real and it is..
>>749564429Deep Jungle is the closest Kingdom Hearts will get to a Donkey Kong World. Even the song feels like it could fit into a DK game.https://youtu.be/zJ4MWqzrkhQ
>>749570482Disney owned thwe books when Return to Oz was made but MGM always owned the movie. Disney had to pay MGM to use Ruby Slippers because it was silver in the books. Oz books have been public domain for awhile now. Ik what happened exactlyThe guy who owned Roger Rabbit took it back from Disney recently or that would be my #1 _ wanted world
>>749570506You really think a knuckle dragging Personafag cares about full completion that takes actual effort?
>>749570640Get to hear this track sooner, so it's all good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGpiCKC0XuE
So, how long into KH4 do you think it'll be before Donal and Grooby rejoin Sora? My guess is at the end
>>749570708KH1 is probably the least fun ultima to get though, by the time you get it, there’s nobody left to use it on beside Sephiroth and maybe Xemnas
>step ASIDE!
>>749570708Just saying, Ultima Weapon is essentially an easy mode in itself with how strong it is, along with grinding to LV 100.I never got it in 1.5 though because the Sniper Wilds were too tedious for me to bother with.
>>749570705Oh ok. Thanks.
>>749570596It's true look at the repeating letters.
>>749570827If yoiu read the leaked achievements you can kind of figure it out
>>749570596It's real. But some text, most importantly the mural in Scala, is still untranslated.
>>749570986
>>749570952All the strange worlds involving death or realistic worlds are in the first half while all the Disney worlds are in the second so it’s safe to say that Sora is probably rescued half way through and is able to travel between both worlds in the second half of the game
>>749570893Wait I was reading more and they only owned rights to adapt everything except the first into movies somehow
>>749570894>>749570986>>749571045How... How... FUCKING HOW????? HOW DID PEOPLE FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT??? FROM A GAME THAT NEVER RELEASED!!!
>>749570685I'm more surprised Nintendo has yet to do its own Kingdom Hearts knock off. Especially since its clear they want to be Disney.
>>749559257I love how MGS2 is reverse of KH2, you play the prologue as the more liked and recognizable character then then play as a different character for the rest of 90% of the game.
>>749570986>>749571045>fake language with possible translationsLove it when media does this.
>>749564932Gonna wait for a sale desu, I already own and played these on PS4. There’s new games I’m looking forward to.>Toy Story Retro Roundup>Switch Sports Resort>Caslevania Belmont’s Curse>Final Fantasy Resonance
how assmad do you think nomura is about all the worlds leaking for kh4
>>749565631People spend more time complaining online than actually figuring out things themselves.
>>749571207The t still looks like a T so you try to guess from there, 3 letter world starting with t is it the?try to eplace h and e elswhere does it work?3 letter word starting with h is it has?try to replace a and s elsewhere etcand you kinda brute forcing by guessing over and over until it makes senseOf course you couldn't do it from that little text I assume there is more of it
>>749565712Cute painted nails anon
>>749571124Wait then who owns the movies with Ariana grande in them. Aren't those connected to Oz? And if Disney does own them, then wouldn't there be a chance she'd be in KH as she was also in a final fantasy mobile game? Also, why not the first movie?
>>749571445Mad but considering the big one is Quadratem, I don’t think he gives that much of a shit. Seems the only reason 4 exists is to make Quadratem and actually make non shit versions of the unique worlds in 3
>>749569017
>>749570525> why would you think of backtracking considering the only save spot(which also heals you and has a shop near it) requires you going back through the trigger for the leon fight it's basically impossible to miss it
>>749570149hold on, the S at the start and the S at the end is not the same symbolit is R not Smaybe they spelt it wrong right at the end
>>749571778no wait, its big and small letter sim dumb
>>749557580
>>749571778Maybe its written differently for capitalizing a letter and having one lower cased.
>>749570060Strelitzia Love
>>749565631For a start yeah, people were kids when they played this.But even generally small areas can seem larger when all the areas look the same and you have to stop and fight enemies constantly (while lacking the heal spell you will come to depend on)
>>749570449Damn this KH1 demake looks awesome!
I know caring about the lore at this point is retarded but considering the dandelions are a group in Quadratem and Yozora has some level of authority in that world, I’m pretty sure Yozora is the leader/commander of the dandelions.
>>749570884>Sniper Wilds were too tedious for me to bother with.Those Monkey Brats need to be put in their place.
>>749569017Making love to Namine
>>749570449how the fuck did nomura get square enix to make 4 failed gacha kingdom hearts games without being told to go back to the drawing board and make kh3 and 4
Lead me into everlasting darkness
Mickey Mouse for Smash Bros
>>749572523>IT IS I
>>749572163Yoichi Wada thought that smartphones were the future of video gaming.Turns out he was ten years ahead of his time, if he waited for the technology and Mobius Final Fantasy was something more like Genshin Impact, he'd've been vindicated. As it is, he jumped the gun and tried to invest too much before phones were strong enough to support such grand endeavors and every single one of S-E's gacha projects flopped in sequence.
>>749571932She jobbed in her first life, she's gonna job here too. And probably end up with Xehanort too. Or Riku.
>>749571867So what, is he retarded?
>>749572523>>749572612They put bugs in him!
Why didn't they show Sora feeling bad about killing Organization XIII members? It was the lore at the time that they died and weren't coming back yet instead of having remorse for ending a life the protagonists treat it like just another obstacle. It's pretty jarring and I'm not sure the messaging is right.
>>749573241He got that Roxas dog in him. It was on sight at all times.
>>749573241They don’t exist so what’s to feel bad about?
>>749573241He was told repeatedly by very insistent racists that Nobodies aren't real people, are doomed to fade away regardless, and they were trying to kill him to begin with.
>>749573241Diz said to Roxas that Sora could use some of that anger and it was used extremely well.
>>749573241The nobodies in the organization are no different that the dusks or other nobodies, at least that is what the good guys believe at that point. They're basically monsters that are walking around pretending to be sentient beings to them. That's why when Yen Sid introduces them to Sora he literally shows the dusk and the organization side by side and says they're the same sort of creature.
>>749573387>>749573393>>749573409>>749573520>prejudice>anger>lethal forceThese mixed together are supposed to net TRAGIC results. Instead, the hero is rewarded and it reinforces that these qualities are a good thing.
>>749573810>it's le bad to kill your enemies( in selfdefence no less)fuck off faggot people like you are why the west is dying
>"I'm me," he says
>>749557176For me, it's Halloween Town
>>749573810>These mixed together are supposed to net TRAGIC results.Since when? Your sheltered enlightenment values? Heracles sacked Troy and got away with it.
>Two!?
nomoura himself said kh1 was inspired by mario 64 exploration. Is mario 64 too hard for current gamers?
>>749574061Even in self-defense the need to use violence should be treated as a tragedy. Dehumanization, even when the aggressor is to blame, is never the answer.
Level design is kind of ass in KHI. Well it's kind of ass in KHII since it's just big empty fields.
>>749570847I'd say KH2FM is equally unfun, on top of being at a similar point in the nearly post-game since you also need all Mushroom XIII materials to get the last Orichalcum+ you need
It’s bizarre seeing complaints about the level design 20 years later
>>749560251nobody cares how autistic and nostalgic you are unc. normal people are more likely to try and follow Donald and Goofy than to do stupid, unexplained goals like beat five heartless or go back to the store; it's bad game design
>>749575149KH2 is funny for making the levels way more open but also worse, they knew that shit was annoying and time-consuming so there's skateboards everywhere and the open level design means there's nowhere good to put chests, so they just sling that shit out in the open with no hiding>Olympus Coliseum now has an actual level attached with the Underworld>>also it's just two straight paths, the only secret is the Paradox cups hanging out in Hades' chamber that we put there instead of with all the other cups to throw out the illusion of depthFlowmotion is a pretty decent replacement for throwing skateboards everywhere but it's also incompatible with KH2's more open fields, funny enough, I think KH3 finally got the hint that if they REALLY want open fields instead of tight level design then Sora just needs to fucking run faster
>>749575279KH2’s literally completed itself, you only have to get one of each material. On top of that, you have an entire extra dungeon to complete with it assuming you didn’t power through it already and 15 super bosses. 2’s is probably the most useful even if 3’s is completely broken
>>749574930They will probably say the ds version is better and is easier to beat.
You are now manually remembering the not-Twitter loading screens in KH3
deep jungle and wonderland are poorly designed
>>749562871cause you're retarded and cannot empathize with someone who is being told their existence is a lie, similar to the idiots who think Sora deciding to help him become his own person is a retcon
>>749574930evidently Nomura didn't understand SM64
>>749557415Deep Jungle would be far better if it wasn't just running between the camp and tree house multiple times until the plot let you progress. Also the vine swinging game is lackluster, and the jungle slide needing to be done at least five times to get all the rewards is poor design.
>>749575550With those d-pad controls? Hell no.
>>7495758293DS patch for true analog controls on DS games is a life-changer for SM64DS
>>749572636>Mobius Final Fantasy God I miss that game. When the hell can we get a character as hot as Meia in this game? And why the fuck is this not getting the treatment Resonance is.
>>749562723>Why didn't Roxas feel anything when Sora visited any of them?He literally gets flashbacks/headaches similar to the feelings Sora has when he sees the Hallow Bastion slide or visits Twilight Town all the time. Did you not actually play it?
>>7495755242 ultima weapon is actually pretty mediocre.Decisive pumpkin is by far the best go to keyblade and unlock it before you can even synthesize ultima weapon.Ut doesn't even really fill a niche like bonds of flame or hero's crest and the like.I don't think there is anytime you want to use ultima weapon over any other keyblade in 2.
>>749562723>It's even worse if you factor in Days where Roxas actually went to Disney worlds. Why didn't Roxas feel anything when Sora visited any of them?For most of the Disney worlds Roxas visits that Sora also visits he either doesn't do anything of particular importance in them or it's related to Xion so he'd be recalling some sense of unease or similar at best, not immediately relevant to KH2's plotAs far as Twilight Town Sora does have emotional responses corresponding to Roxas thereOrganization XIII literally cannot do anything without a Keyblade since Xemnas and Ansem SOD went burpy and forgot they had one, they make an extant effort to taunt Sora because he's also Roxas and him even being around and active means their plan for Kingdom Hearts is proceeding. They DO want Roxas specifically because Nobodies are more malleable even though Roxas is independent and doesn't like them but Sora is more than good for the job
>>749575484Here's what I suggest as a compromise for KH4: make glide available WAY earlier on. I'm tired of waiting until endgame to unlock it. If Sora can remember dodge roll and combo master at the beginning of 3 make it so he doesn't forget glide anymore. Make it mid-game at least.
>>749575829Play it on the 3ds. Its at least a little better. >>749575964Didn't Brave Exvius make a billion dollars. Usd I mean not Yen. That alone is probably why. >as hot as Meia SKULD EXIST ANON!!!
>>749576395I think the best compromise would just be taking High Jump and Glide into consideration again for platforming, KH1 is already locking shit off from you as early as Wonderland that you have to come back later for with a combination of High Jump or Glide and even SuperglideI'd kill for the ludonarrative stuff to be a part of it again like not getting Glide until you learn how to fly in Neverland/Hook's Ship, KH2 as it is just tacked Glide on to Final Form because there wasn't anywhere else to put it, but even if that's not in the cards I'll happily take the game being designed around whether or not you have High Jump and/or Glide at specific points in time. Being able to see a treasure and not immediately get to it no matter what you do is part of level design, it means "come back later"
>>749576395I mean he's got that built shit and flow motion seems to be coming back.
>>749571546I have no idea who Ariana Grand is. All the books are public domain is so whoever made the movies owns their movies.
>>749576503>KH2 as it is just tacked Glide on to Final Form because there wasn't anywhere else to put itBetter than 3 at least, 2 had movement abilities designed around leveling up drive forms so it's kind of coherent, in 3 you just reach the final world and it goes "btw here's glide". I'd kill for Quick Run/Air Slide to be a ground ability again too, also for classic aerial recovery to come back. Heck just make KH2 again.>>749576530But gliding around the world and especially boss fights is so fun, I want them to design levels around glide being an early unlock, keeping it to endgame makes it so you don't get to use it as much.
>>749575023>murderous criminals are human too! It's a tragedy to kill them! Reeee if you kill evil people you're just as bad as them reeeeee!No. It is justice. Every intelligent human hates that "killing is always bad" trope.
>>749571546Wicked is a seperate thing, Universal owns the musical
>>749557415They are. Although Deep Jungle feels like where the game finally picks up. It's just going up to the treehouse and back and and going up again and back down and then up again until you can fight clayton.Wonderland is visually lame with the underground box room thing. That was a really terrible idea.>>749557580How does someone have so many video games but can't play them? I guess posing your game for a photo before playing it explains that.
>>749557415Monstro is the worst no contest.
>>749572953Is Luigi's Mansion easy?
>>7495773136/10 in terms of difficulty. A decent challenge as a kid i thoughts. Haven't played it since thou.>>749577181I'm still like 90% sure people do this for clout and engagement bait cause they know the fand will come to the games defense.
>>749562723>Roxas might as well not be inside Sora until the end.KEK
>>749571232>Bionicle
>>749575620There were far worse things to hate about 3 than this. This was almost charming by comparison
>>749567248Prequel or Original? I know not even Disney is retarded enough to force Sequel at this point.
>>749577592Nta but thats cool. Where's the mod for that?
>>749567248Star Wars will be a world patterned after The MandalorianMandalorian/Djin party member will be functionally a Dragoon using the spear he had for a whileScreencap this for later
>>749571867>don't check for the respawned money ghosts during the blackout>can't get the perfect mansionhow were you supposed to know?
>>749578004*Din Djarin
>>749577592>"Unity...">"Duty...">"Destiny..." >"The Great Spirit Mata Nui gave us these virtues, and we hold them close... to our Hearts."
>>749577816Original.Most likely return of the jedi specifically.
>>749577816Rotj. Tatooine and Endor
>>749570506I've been playing the whole series since May, and I think Kh3 Ultima Weapon might be worse. due to flans and the fucking frozen Slider minigames, they drag it for too long, but man the Shotlock rips everything apart lol.Kh1FM ultima was also changed from the OG version, KH2 wasn't that different from the OG version
>>749578274I forgot other keyblades have shotlocks in KH3 since Kingdom Key/Dead of Night has par excellence Ragnarok attached to it
>>749578448I like how Ragnarok is basically prototype Shotlock even in the original game Ragnarok was fucking great.
>>749578000https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomhearts3/mods/1335
>>749570565This shit pisses me off. But it's not even just zoomers, I know a dude who is 35 who whenever pressed by anything in a game will start throwing a tantrum and yelling "WHY IS THERE XYZ, I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS"
>>749578448I love the one that made Timeless River Sora pop out
>>749577118Then they shouldn't have made them look human and have tragic backstories. Why humanize them if they takeaway is they deserve death with no one to lament how it got to that point? It's like the narrative can't make up its mind.
>>749578775Going to add some more details because it's funny, but he genuinely wants games to read his mind. He'll press a button to take out a weapon in a certain slot then yell about why it pulled out that weapon instead of the one he wanted, that the developers are incompetent and did it wrong, etc etc. Asking him how he would prefer the developers handled that makes him explode, it's hilarious
>>749578936I'm glad I'm only regular retarded
Opinions of KH3 worlds?I really enjoyed Toy box at first but on a rerun getting throught the gigas gets annoyingThe caribbeans was probably my favourite, I wasn't expecting a whole "open world" secondary pirate game in KH even if it's not muchFrozen is probably the worst one, bad navigation and monotonous, plus the shitty Olaf minigame that you do twice
>>749578274>frozen Slider minigamesThe fact that you have to go down the mountain at least seven times checking every path for orichalcum+ is the worst.
>>749573241Sora gloats about killing Maleficent. He doesn't try to save everyone, if you're mad he will put you down.
>>749579145I think it comes from him having a complex about being perceived as stupid and so all of his mistakes must be the fault of someone else. Which ironically is what makes him sound the most retarded. Self-fulfilling prophecies are wonderful
Alright. I haven't touched KH since II. Should I play BBS, DDD, and III?
>>749579478>He doesn't try to save everyone
>>749578936Is he disabled in any way? Or just an unbelievable pain in the ass.
>>749579846Just unbearably insecure I think. He does have ADHD though, I don't know if that would have any bearing on it
>>749561715In the past games were something to occupy children while indoors. The whole point was to waste/kill time. They only had to be entertaining enough to keep a bored kid playing.Today games are made for busy adults, competing for their time with phone, internet video, tv, work, sleep, and family. Most sales are from the inertia of manchildren who grew up playing games, so that's their identity, and they make purchasing decisions based on marketing material and not on whether or not they actually enjoy the game (the AAA market). Friction has to be kept to a minimum so that the manchild can complete the game and reassert his identity as a "gamer," or else the manchild is frustrated and upset. Alternatively some games can be "difficult" in certain ways (souls-likes) such that the challenge is the point, to assert the identity of "hard core gamer."
>>749579436Big Hero 6 world is fun imo
>>749568432>nofunallowedrobot.png
>>749577270Fuck you, Monstro is goated, colorful, and has one of the best combat tracks.
What gameplay features do you want IV to keep from 3?The big ones for me are Keyblade Switching and Keyblade upgrades, I fucking loved how Kingdom Key was finally able to still be a perfectly viable Keyblade in endgame outside of a challenge run setting.Also on that note, what should the nostalgia 3 form in IV be called after Limit and Second? Tri Form?
>>749570060It's true that KH1 has really bad quest direction and very often leaves the player with no indication of what to do or where to goBut getting so filtered by it that you ragequit in Wonderland is pathetic
>>749580328Keyblade switching and Grand Magic, but with more depth. Keyblades should feel even more distinct so you're highly incentivized to switch based on the situation. Grand Magic should have more variety and be based on the order you cast magic. For example if you do Fire Thunder Aero enough times in a row then you can use Gravity/Gravira/Graviga. Bring back spells and abilities from the previous games and make them grand magic.
>>749580508Tickles me Magnet shows up in KH2 but only as the Magnet-derived finisher for the Limit Form reference
>>749562087>Keep in mind the Roxas kino doesn’t end there in 2Yes it does
>>749568432NTA but why couldn't they just give him this design or one reflecting his KH4 look and just slap his pride land face on it. Wouldn't that just solve the problem?
>>749565651Nomura repeated and adamant assurance that IV will release in 2027 says to me that he knows we want a true physical copy and plans on delivering it.
>>749575620Still waiting on a proper load time comparison between PS4 and PS5I hear it's better in both 0.2 and KHIII but I haven't seen any specifics
>>749581016PS4 has SATA 2 load speeds where the highest potential load times are achieved through an SSHD (it literally does not have high enough transfer speed to make proper use of a SATA SSD), PS5 has an NVME drive. You do the math
>>749561343What makes the moment the most kino is playing KH2 blind for the first time expecting to play as Sora, but you get Roxas instead, start wondering where Sora is as you'd rather play as him, but then growing to like Roxas and his friends, and right as you start to get invested with him, you get rugpulled by the twistThat was most effective to people that played KH2 back when it first released, as a large amount of people back then played 2 right after 1 and had no idea CoM even released or just didn't play it, so a lot of what was going on during KH2 was a genuine mystery and the player was just as confused as RoxasLots of people easily spent 3hrs+ on the prologue taking their time to explore everything, as they're not expecting the twist and think that's how the game starts for real, and people genuinely believed Roxas was dead for goodThat's the whole reason why the moment has stood the test of time and made a heavy impact in defining Roxas as a character to the fanbase, and the majority of KH's fanbase are still those same fans who'd all be 30+ now or very late 20s minimumIt's impossible to recreate that feeling for anyone who plays KH2 for the first time today, so the moment just becomes a cool Truman Show-esque moment for most people or they just feel bad for RoxasEven if someone tries to go blind, they'd naturally be exposed to the twist of KH2 by cultural osmosis simply by knowing Roxas is still around after KH2Still cool for them, but it's not gonna hit anywhere near as hard as it used to doIt's an unironic you had to be there moment to fully get why so many KH fans glaze it so hard
>>749581162What the console is capable of and what the game actually does are two different things
>>749572732>literally me isn't there so they're just going to bullshit some ending for her or kill her offAIEEEE>>749574930I assume the retard grifters on Twitter would instantly complain that it feels clunky to play, and that they don't know where to go after beating the first level of Bomb-omb Field.
>>749557580let's hope one day he gets so frustrated that he finally ropes
>>749581258Sorry anon your Waifu is gonna job hard and/or die again. And she still won't have the courage to say what she wants to say.
>>749567223what to understand ? you start the fucking sequel but wait a second this isn't Sora ??? you do quest for 4 hour and find out it isn't even a reboot or any squaresoft game, unfiltered KINO
>>749578861Didn't that happen in games AFTER kh2 or am I misremembering? And regardless, backstory doesn't justify or change anything almost ever. It doesn't matter that your life is fucked up you don't get to destroy worlds.
>>749557580i love kingdom hearts one and beat it almost every year but Jungle book and wonderland are really shitty first levels
>>749567784My parents had random movies from most ages of Disney, I know the times are different but I doubt that parents stopped showing stuff they liked as kids to their kids
>>749578861because "killing" the heartless + nobody save the two into the original guy you will now know in future cutscene, and that what they did
>>749557580this is who games like wolverine are made for btw
>>749574930I would say it's not too hard, but people would rather just lose interest or not even give it a chance
>>749557176Admittedly, I did wander around a bit at first, but I figured it out.I watched Alice in Wonderland for the first time to prepare myself for the KH world. A bit disappointed with how short the world is, a bit too small and boxed in, they could’ve done more with the concept
>>749557415Holy filteredThe worst world is Atlantica
>>749557176What kind of baby-brain do you have to be to have a hard time navigating Wonderland?
>>749577270Holy shit tasteThat’s like saying Hollow Bastion is shit because of the platforming
I'm putting together a team of child soiders with attitude. Suggestions for the team name.
>>749561343KH2 prologue doesn't read well until you understand the full context of Roxas' life under Xemnas. Before 358 and the collections came out, the KH2 tutorial was often called the weakest or most confusing part of the game.
Switch 2 got the best keyblade
>>749584464Better than the kingdom key d ripoff for the cloud version.
>>749582208Then let the gang show some emotion, some empathy for the emotionally damaged people they have to put down.
>>749582208IIRC Xemnas basically lied to them, because nobodies with a strong will of their own and others (like data-sora and Xion) eventually grow a heart of their own
Literal 8 year olds beat that shit in 2002Le smart and intellectual plebs on twitter are finding out how irrelevant their experiences are, and how uninformed their opinions are.Turns out, playing 20 year old games when they came out does have a difference because you have 15 years of slop giving you dog shit impressions of what gaming is
>>749584554I recommend you read the manga. Sora has a few moments like this. Especially at the end when they all confront Xemnas.
>>749577270based, you tell these larpers.the world design makes no fucking sense, it's ugly, it repetitive, it's a slog overall and the CoM reinterpretation is x10 worse lmao. At least Deep Jungle was pleasant to look at and had somewhat of a story going on.
>>749557176always disregard "beat it when i was 9" retorts, we all beat games with 0 conveyance back then. it was enough fun to just push buttons.that said, kh1 isn't as obtuse as these instant gratification-obsessed ipad kids are making it out to be. just listen to what NPCs tell you. it's an RPG.
Speaking of Manga, I wished Nomura did some kind of manga, I really enjoy his artwork over the years
>>749585685Look at this midwit fence sitter over here. Doesn't know what conveyance means and ends up disagreeing with himself.Children beat Kingdom Hearts, and a whole bunch of other games of the time without having to resort to guides. Modern adhdfried people still have training wheels on (in an already simple medium).Most of them would get filtered by the crack in the wall context clues in Zelda that let you know to bomb the wall.
>>749585698That would be an interesting difference if instead of game development he became a magaka. Plus he could still work for square considering they both make and publish some manga.
>>749585146That was only in DDD, it wasn't in KHII alone.
>>749580508>>749580580Some KH3 spells serve as replacements of older spells. Aero replaces Magnet in gathering enemies, Blizzard freezes enemies for a few seconds like Stop, and Water is somewhat of a much shittier Reflect since it forms a barrier around you for a little bit when you cast it that somewhat blocks some attacks and sprays outwards (also KH2 Fire since it forms around you).
>>749557176It takes a bit to orient yourself but you can get through it eventually. It's not like The Fade in Dragon Age or whatever.ADHD zoomers can't stand spending time to orient themselves though. They demand the waypoints even though they pretend to bitch about it when it's socially convenient, like with Wolverine. That 007 game that came out recently was beloved and that game is entirely linear with Uncharted-like arenas trying to trick you into thinking it's open. Gamers loved that slop.
>>749559257Even as an adult who doesn't care about cutscenes nearly as much as my child-self did, it's by far my favorite action/adventure RPG. It just plays so perfectly and has so much heart in it.
>>749560665
>>749586859I dont think its ADHD. I know someone with that and they were able to beat KH1 back when I lent them my copy to play there copy of Budokai 3 when I was 7. You mean to tell me a disable kid can beat the game but a grown ass adult can't. There's something else going on here. I just can't put my finger on it.
I just started KH3 for the first time and put it straight to critical. Not going to lie the first world was brutal. There are so many more enemies on screen you just end up getting sniped by something off screen if you go in like the old games. My strategy so far is to isolate an enemy and build up my meter until I can AOE everything with some OP move. Can't say I'm the biggest fan of that gameplay loop but I'm mostly in it for the post-game bosses.
>>749587067ADHD clearly is a social "disease." It's not like you're born with it. The medicine doesn't even rewire the brain like they pretend it does, with studies noting it's basically just a very strong stimulant. ADHD is when people can't put off entertainment time long enough to do "boring" work, like homework.In the past, ADHD had a blind spot with video games because of the immersive, tactile feedback element. You press a button, Mario jumps over the Goomba which made it enjoyable and stimulated enough to retain focus. Now, gamers seem more preoccupied with watching streamers play games, with an increasing focus on the story and they're favorite internet people reacting to it (of which usually they edit it down or focus on the chat instead of the game). Thus, they don't want to get "stuck" anywhere, leading to this situation where the guy didn't know what to do so he ranted on social media (an entertainment stimulus driven by his own narcissism to be heard).I saw this here during SMT:V's release. People were complaining about how easy the game was, but when prompted they couldn't demonstrate a picture of their save file showing that they're on Hard (the game locks the file to Hard if you choose it). They intentionally picked the easier difficulty to fly through to the story bits, only to complain about their own choice because that's what they think is how to be interesting online. This Switch manchild reminds me of that, in that he was probably on his phone or writing some notes for his stupid video he's going to make and refused to pay attention. Do something stupid, blame the game.
>>749575620I legitimately forgot about them between playing on release and replaying this year and felt like my head was going to do a JFK impression
>>749587128For me the biggest issue with KH3 on critical was that relative to I or II the worlds and individual rooms are MUCH larger, so you can easily go 10+ minutes without hitting a checkpoint. In KH2 if you got nuked you were probably within five seconds of the last door you took.
>>749587589>ADHD clearly is a social "disease." It's not like you're born with it. The medicine doesn't even rewire the brain like they pretend it does, with studies noting it's basically just a very strong stimulant.You're legitimately just fundamentally wrong about this. One of the fundamental symptoms of ADHD is that the stimulants used to medicate it have radically different (somewhat inverted) affects on those with the illness. "Coffee makes you sleepy" is a pretty well-known part of this, as another example.
>>749582860Wonderland and Neverland were two of the most thematically appropriate Disney worlds they could've chosen for levels, and they both ended up being undercooked
>>749588134... I might need to talk to a doctor
>>749587589I'll admit it definitely seems more like people are interested in watching games then actually playing them. Probably why games like wolverine and the last of us are so popular. And with how handholdy the games are now a days they probably would expect the same from stuff made in the past. Another good example of this is in the new Halo game where they put markers about the invisible Elites. People aren't really playing anymore for a challenge or to test there skills.
>>749570262False equivalence. Children in late 90s used to watch older movies because Internet didn't exist so they had to watch what was available, nowadays children don't watch anything older than 5 years old. They unironically don't know what Star Wars is
>>749588296>nowadays children don't watch anything older than 5 years old. They unironically don't know what Star Wars isFull of shit, modern zooms play and watch older video games and television/movies constantly, ROMs carry the first and streaming sites like Tubi flipping over to older stuff carry the second
It's called the Disney renaissance for a reason, those films were a big part of culture at the time.Disingenuous to say they were all 60 year old archived films noone had seenEven Tarzan was new and came out like 3 years before kingdom heartsMost of the people using roms to play games are playing 4x speed 4x xp godmode commands, all these romplayers 'experiencing' old games are getting filtered by rereleases of 20 yr old gamesDisney is in some fucked up slop era ATM where people think Moana is good
>>749572163Lmao you really think Nomura asked SE to make mobile gacha? SE thought mobiles bring the most money and I guess it's supported by the success of gachaslop
>>749573241>Why didn't they show Sora feeling bad about killing Organization XIII members?Why would he feel bad about killing people attacking him? If you get an intruder who rapes and kills your family and you kill him, would you feel bad?
>>749586859Then their hypocritical asses go on twitter to spout nonsense and people actually give them credence
>>749573241The only ones he felt bad about were Axel (friendly + Roxas's emotions), Roxas (part of himself + aware Roxas wants freedom), Demyx (a little bit of pity for him being pathetic) and Xemnas (pity for him thinking hearts only have anger)Everybody else, why would he feel bad about killing an emotionless husk that keeps trying to toy with his own emotions
>>749579436>Opinions of KH3 worlds?All worlds in this series should be like Toy Story and Monsters Inc, meaning it's based on that franchise but has an original story. I don't understand the point of playing the same rehashed story, I might as well watch the original. However it suffers from not having Disney characters as bosses. Zero reason why Randall and Zurg couldn't be the bosses
>>749578775I do that ironically when I'm doing good in the game, but I stopped doing it when I was doing bad because I was making myself angry at me.
>>749585698The closes thing you get are Nomura storyboards
I do remember being stuck more than once in Alice in Wonderland and in Tarzan worlds, once in Little Mermaid (forgetting I could super swim against the current?) and mildly lost during the Oogie Boogie Mansion fight in Nightcare before Crimbus
>>749588960>Disney is in some fucked up slop era ATM where people think Moana is goodThis. None of the modern Disney films will stand the test of time except maybe Frozen and Tangled but that's because those are Disney Princess shit.
>>749588296Motherfucker, I work with a Zoomer who thinks the Prequel Trilogy is the peak of Star Wars. And I'm talking movies only.
>>749590341The game is made for children 3-6, not for 20+ year old retards who still play video games
>>749590404>KH is made for children 3-6In what way has this ever been true outside your autistic mind?
>>749558824
Kingdom Hearts is for gay people like me, can you fuck off straight people?
Will Oswald appear in KH at one point?
>>749557176it's not the greatest world honestly. KH1 is a game of high highs and low lows. I'd place wonderland on the lower end of spectrum.
>>749576503Kingdom Hearts has a bit of Metroidvania DNA in it
>>749580328Guarding in Midair
>>749590625Are you denying that KH is made for children? Are you serious?
>>749591015Yes, in KH4
>>749590984Never has been faggot
>>749574930This, the average new generation gamers aren’t looking so good compared to the… Uncs, (man I hate that term)
>>749575620I made a mod to replace them with gameplay tips.
>>749591145Do you know what age group KH1 was actually targetting or are you just being a hyperbolic retard on purpose?
>>749575620they made me laugh every time I saw them. the one with aqua crying and Sora's just like>man getting stuck in the darkness for decades must've sucked ass! #lightis so funny to me.
>>749591408>Do you know what age group KH1 was actually targettingChildren 3-6 same as every other game in the series
>>749591453One must imagine Sora saying "wowzers!" before posting that to the lower than 10 people he knows on a social network that exists exclusively for Keyblade wielders and Disney characters
>>749557176Not really. The problem is young people using internet, dumbphones and AI to become retarded stupid due to lack of brain usage. Soon their brains will hardly be able to think and solve anything on their own, aka the perfect cattle.
I AM PLAYING THE GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME SO I HAVE A EXPERT OPINIONI just beat Deep Jungle. I found it to be way more abstruse than Wonderland. Mainly because I felt like I was just wandering around most of the time trying to trigger the next cut-scene to advance the story. Wonderland was fairly easy to do, but the boss fight felt annoying due to platforming. Mainly, the lack of proper shadows on objects so I was always hitting my head on the bottom of the table instead of grabbing onto the ledge. The game is very fun though. I love all the bright colors in the levels, and the nostalgia from seeing all these Final Fantasy and Disney characters is very endearing.
>>749591281kys straight trash.
>>749591580Deep Jungle is kind of dog shit, I think they didn't really know what to do for a Tarzan worldJungle King keyblade tho
>>749572612IT IS I
>>749591580deep jungle is basically going up and down one big hallway over and over until you're allowed to leave. one of the worst levels in the entire franchise, especially because if you didn't stock up item wise for the world you could very well have to fly all the way to traverse town and back to stock up.
>>749561343>idgiThat means you have healthy T-levels.
absoluts semen demons.might have to try playing the games someday, even
>>749583637Napalm Magnets
>>749591953They are both heterosexual, sorry lil bro
>>749592029for now
>>749592278They are only 15 years old you freak!!!
>>749557176Nah, even little kids were able to figure it out back then so current retards have no excuse.
>>749563695I'm really curious about how the TV show will go. The popularity of that will dictate if we get more or not and there's really no telling how it'll do
>>749589629>and Xemnas The beat down Sora lays down on him blurs the lines between self-defense and revenge. Xemnas is already staggered yet isn't given the opportunity to call a truce because the assault is nonstop. It's obvious that anger over Sora's hurt friend is part of the equation but is that the right message? An eye for an eye?
>>749593060>I'm really curious about how the TV show will goIt's gonna be the same thing as DMC and Castlevania "anime". It won't have our main characters because it's set in the time period when Xehanort was a teen, I doubt they can do something compelling with that
>>749579259AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
>>749579436>caribbeansIt’s too big and overstays its welcome, I liked it better in KH2
>>749584464Holy Shit that could pass as a Halloween themed Keybladd too! Putting aside Pumpkin Head.
>>749584464Hoo shit nigger this means Switch 2 is the only game to get a truly unique keyblade, a Star Seeker recolor is the only way you can get any kind of Star Seeker in KH3.
>>749593345Unlike DMC and Castlevania, the KH anime will actually have Nomura and the KH team involved.It being during the Dark Road period should tell you that it's going to be something meaningful.They could've just rehashed the games or done some fuck-ass reimagining, instead Nomura is taking the opportunity to tell a new canon story.DR very clearly didn't get to say everything he wanted it to, so the anime is going to be filling in those blanks.
Wonder land was ok but if i think about it more than a couple minutes I just have to conclude that it is a shit level and honestly a bad way to get into KH
>>749593476Uh, anon, Xbox and PlayStation both have their own Star Seeker recolors
>>749593548This ain't about them. I could have sworn they only had Kingdom Key recolors like Steam and EGS
>>749593502>Never confuse your audience.Brainlet hands wrote this post
>>749593520KH1's front half is pretty bad all things considered. the back half is much better but still the downs of monstro, atlantica and while not horrible I don't love the pirate ship either.
>>749585698I wish he drew Sora and his alts fighting more Nintendo characters again like with Cloud.
>>749593489The point is that it's made by Westerners so it's gonna be slop
is everyone else also playing through the kingdom hearts series?I'm on birth by sleep, I finished Terra and Ventus's routes. Going through Aqua now.Also I actually played 358/2 instead of just watching the movie. Boy am I glad I did that, I also plan on actually playing re:coded too. Also gonna play on critical mode whenever a secret ending is involved so I can avoid doing a bunch of chores to unlock it.
>>749591623nothing "Disney" is for the homos
>>749590984Can (you) lose access to the internet please?
>>749593619Link looks great in Nomura's style
>>749579436Frozen and tangled are hamfisted movie shoe ins, they don't even really try to include sora. Even so, tangled is a decent world. Frozen is the worst of kh3. Toy story is actually the peak, and I'm frustrated that they've stopped including more final fantasy stuff. Monsters Inc is almost good, but it doest lean hard enough into the level of exploration that big hero six allowed. I wish they would include more FF stuff, but with the jump to the real world or whatever kh4 is actually doing, I think we're probably gonna get less to none.
>>749593583nope PS4 and XBAWKS got Starseeker recolors. There's also a 7-11 exclusive keyblade.
>>749593653No.
Is it true the next game will have Star Wars that makes me so upset like a pit in my stomach just grew
>>749573241
>>749593694Yeah world title was leaked as "A Galaxy Far, Far Away"We have absolutely no idea what it's going to be about
Just finished getting up on the hydra's back, damn KH2 REALLY loves reaction commands huh.
>>749593641Disney is for Girls, also gays are into Aladdin and Prince Eric...etc.
>>749593664tangled and frozen while not really directly involving the main cast are at least thematically in line with the game, in that both things showcase great acts of love that seemingly come with a bit of self sacrifice. Sora seeing this happen in his journey reinforces his self sacrificial tendencies, leading up to him once again giving himself up to save Kairi.
>>749558824source of picture? i need more
>>749593768>Disney is for girlsthe straight kind>people like attractive characters
>>749593715They're honestly pretty cool.
>>749593663Everyone looks great in Nomura's style. If you didn't notice the popular meme "great character design can be recognized just by silhouette" uses his character as the example
Yoko's music will always be the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKjjJMiwj_E
Honestly I don't even remember the Wonderland world. I remember getting lost in Tarzan's world for a bit but like Wonderland apparently didn't leave any lasting impression at all.
>>749557176I cannot imagine being retarded enough to not be able to play through Kingdom Hearts People like you need to be euthanized.
>>749567248Aren't we getting Underworld?Along with whatever Imagineer Planet is
>>749593889>perpetually angry /v/irgin confused by concept of people playing videogames
>>749568952Honey Select looks like
KH IS GAY!
>>749593932Kingdom Hearts is a children's game. You're either a nigger or a genuine down syndrome mongoloid if you're struggling to navigate a game made for children.
>>749579436>OlympusPretty good start. Only downside is no Tourney mode that could've easily fit at the top of Olympus.>TangledA good first half with Sora bonding with Rapunzel with the magic tutorial. Quality drops after the dance and it follows the movie beat-for-beat save for the final boss but at least Sora got to say goodbye to his new friends which more than what can be said about Frozen's world.>Toy BoxI'm biased so I'll say it's perfect despite traversing the mega mall can be a drag due to sheer vertical size.>Twilight TownThe worst Twilight Town of all the Kingdom Hearts games. Why bring it back just to strip it down to a shell of itself? All we get in return is a cooking minigame and smaller Winnie the Pooh book that only exists to jell with the aforementioned cooking minigame.>FrozenIt's shit. I'd kill to see Normura's original vison played out.>Monsters IncPretty good, I'd say this world did the best mixing Disney/Pixar with Kingdom hearts elements.>PiratesDespite pulling the same BS with Frozen by sidelining Sora so that the plot and charters move on without him at least they gave us a good Ship minigame and fixed underwater combat along with movement.>San FranIt's neat. This world was built for playing with all the new movement options and that's really I have to say about it.
>>749593632There is no information about who is producing the series.All we know is that it will release on Disney+
>>749594038Toy Box's main negatives for me are the Gigas-focused combat (they were quite proud of it apparently) and the dialogue for characters is a bit too "Kingdom Hearts-y" for Buzz and Woody. Otherwise I ate that shit up
>>749594034>you're a nigger - man who starts chimping out when lightly made fun of on 4channel.org
>>749593928Underworld is a staple of the series so it doesn't count. Same as Winnie The Pooh. No clue what "Imagineer Planet" is
The thread has reached the bump limit. I'd post a screenshot or fan art of Kairi's panties but I don't have an image, so I won't.
>>749594094Yeah I feel ya on the Gigas combat, it's fun for a bit but at some point I just said fuck it and let Magic Roulette RNG Keyblade guide me through most battles.
>>749560469Zoomer normies are literal retards
>>749594038I fuckin HATE Toy Box if only because of how forced the robot shit is, and how not very engaging it is to play. Normal and Proud you can kind of just fight the robots on foot anyway, but critical mode makes it REALLY tough because you basically have no equipment and no abilities to speed up any encounter. I quite liked the level design, but it's all ruined by the world being ruled by bad first person virtual on.
>>749566848Still blows my mind after replaying CoM that the whole twilight town card was Vexen pulling a fast one and no one knew what that town was because, at the same time, Roxas was undergoing 358. Was 1-2 completely planned ahead of time?
>>749594265>Was 1-2 completely planned ahead of time?probably, considering the secret movie in KH1 being the Riku fight against Roxas, teasing at Sora's disappearance at the end of CoM, and Riku's journey to save him by chasing down his nobody.
>>749557415Wonderland is fine. Its got a bunch of hidden shit, recently replayed it after like 7 years and I only just found out about the water tap and the pot in Bizzare Room.Deep Jungle is a whole different world once you figure out how to cross the hippos lagoon with jump attack, you never have to interact with those fuckass vines. The slider minigame is annoying but it actually makes the world feel a whole lot bigger in scale if you play through all 5 levels.The actual 'worst' world imo is Neverland which they never really fixed till BBS where you actually are in Neverland, and not just inside Hooks Ship. Even then the story events, Hook's boss fight and Clock Tower were pretty cool.Atlantica is solved by magic. Seriously don't even bother swinging your keyblade just equip Fire and blast everything.
>>749594265Depends on if you believe Nomura when he says KH1/FM's secret movies and Xemnas fight were just to be cool, but Xemnas being a superboss (one Sora canonically fought, "I've been to see him") suggests otherwise and that it was pre-planned
>>749594390oh you know I never considered the >I've been to see himscene being the actual superboss, but I guess when I first played KH2 I had no notion of the final mixes so I figured it was something that occurred off screen, and just carried that assumption forward until now.
>>749559257I remember playing the prologue of KH2 in May when I was a freshman in college. It was a very surreal feeling because even though my person summer vacation was about to start it also kind of felt like it was ending. Like I was about to move back home and return to my "old life" for three months after having lived the "vacation" of not living with my parents. It's one of those gaming memories that sticks with you.That said, don't get your hopes up too high. KH2 isn't really as good as KH1. In fact none of the games after 1 are. They aren't bad, but they aren't as good.
>>749594163desiring to clean up the gene pool is in no way niggardly
>>749594653and you're doing a great job at it anon, one 4chan post at a time. keep it up the good work! mommy's little eugenicist
>>749594265Chain of Memories started development during KHII's development.KHII was not planned ahead of time as nobody on the team had any idea they'd get a sequel at all.>>749594390KHII was likely already greenlit and story being drafted by the time KHFM released.
>>749594253I think Nomura plans 1 game ahead at least. I think maybe this saga is different though. He also leaves a lot of threads open to pick up later like how 'is this for real or not' I KH1 became the basis for Unreality in KH4. That idea is older than most people on /v/ its nuts
>>749594001WRONGKINGDOM HEARTSIS LIGHT!
>>749593489>It being during the Dark Road period should tell you that it's going to be something meaningfulThe character I the poster is named after a Norse myth where he fell in loved with a Valkyrie named Kara. Why am I sharing this? In the leaked achievements we found out the secret boss is named Kara.
>>749595308For Dark Seeker he claimed to plan 3 games at a time (the current and the next two)For Lost Masters I have a feeling he's had most of it planned out for the last 10 years
I'm replying through the Kingdom Hearts series. I'm not very far into KH1, but I finished Wonderland, and it's much shorter than I remember. Trickmaster actually took me way more tries on Proud mode than I care to admit, and I found Tarzan's world to be WAY longer, but what's funny is Clayton was super easy on Proud mode. I beat him on my first try despite the infamous difficulty everyone claims about him. Atlantis was a slog as well; super boring. I cheated on the second phase Ursula fight fuck that bitch. There is no way I could do that on Proud mode. I was dying in three hits, so if you beat her on Proud mode then congrats. She is 100x harder than any boss you face up to that point.