Why aren't you making games with Claude? Even the Japanese veterans like it
>>749566751Boomer retards get mind broken by stupid gimmicks like this.
>>749566751There is no value in telling a machine to make a game.The purpose of making a game is in the joy of getting to personally design and control every single detail of it, so that it is a picture of you and your personality. Why on Earth would you tell a soulless toaster to make "some kind of a game"? Where's the fun in it? Nowhere.
>>749567316no it's not, stupid zoomer.Release or not release, that's the question.
>>749567563There is no inherent value in releasing a game. There's already millions, literal millions of videogames out there. The world doesn't need a single game more.Only reason to make games is to satisfy your own ego and in order to get that, you have to be in control. Not press a button on a dispenser whose inner workings you don't even understand.
>>749566751Is /v/ pro Ai or anti AI? Seems like a lot of other boards are against it.
>>749567902We're anti AI with a shitload of persistent Indian paid pro-AI shills working overtime.
>>749567902/v/, reddit, trannies and chuds are united in their hate for it.Too bad the entire American economy is built on something so unpopular.
>>749566751Japanese boomer devs seem to all love AI for some reason. Maybe it's because they're getting too old to do all the hard devwork so they like something that makes the job easier for them.
>>749567316The only purpose of making games is to make profits after
>>749568080Its "idea guy" heaven. The kind of guy that just wants their idea to exist in some form who holds no love for the technical process of making it.
>>749567316>of getting to personally design and control every single detail of itYou can do that tho
>>749567902pro ai but infested with tranny raiders trying to force anti ai
>>749566751how did boomers get one-shot by AI?
>>749567902Evidentially it's mainly white people who hates it with a passion given that DLsite blocks all of us living in the west from being able to even see any content featuring it without the aid of a VPN. kek
>>749567902only transexuals are against ai
>>749567902there is no good reason for a functional human to be pro-ai
>>749568253AI following instructions is like the retarded high schooler at the drive-thru who gets half your order wrong. There isn’t a single instance I’ve seen where it’ll output “exactly” what you want, unless you’re asking it for something that already exists (like a copyrighted character).
>>749568384only jeets are pro-ai
>>749568384broken cock
>>749568384Wrong. They’re against YOU using it, but troons absolutely love the idea of getting to “make” shit with no effort. Their hatred of it is performative in an effort to dilute the pool of people who might encroach on their grift. You look at all the AI-generated bullshit being sold on Etsy and ebay and it’s almost all jeets and rainbow troons.
>SAAAAAR EVERYONE LOVES AI AND WE ARE ALL CEOS IF YOU DONT LIKE AI YOU ARE TRANNY WE SUPERPOOPER NOW
>>749568470Thats the craft of it, to carefully phrase and edit things until you get what you desire
>i can get these stupid chuds to attack AI if I associate it with Indians, those stupid chuds hate those so they'll agree with me and maybe can get my job back with enough backlash!
>>749567902/v/ is pro AI when handled by professional engineers and programmers/v/ is anti AI when managed by codelet “developers”AI only truly works when you actually know what’s under the hood. Idea guys are functionally worthless in every aspect, and generated games will reflect on that fact, by being slop.
>>749566751Imagine still hating AI. The best thing since the internet
>>749566751>The individual who is responsible for the most generic fantasy known to man can now rest easy knowing his successor is on the horizon
>>749567902I support my President. SI won. Trannies still seething so I know im in the right.
>>749567902i'm pro-ai porn, and pro ai if the product is free, if not fuck off
>>749568080Japanese people in general always seem approving of extremely easy to use tools for art creation. They're the only ones that really went hard with Macromedia Director and RPG Maker.
>>749567902anti, but we're being flooded by retards trying to make another AI general (or an excuse to talk about politics).
>>749567316we have apparently 2 options, he can either let the west try and trannify and lolcowlize everything, or he can just shitpost with AI and release what he wants free from faggots telling him to Body A/B 700 mixed brown NPCs
>>749567902Real /v/ermin hate AI
>>749567563You are releasing it down the toilet, nobody is going to play your slop bereft of any creativity
>>749568470Neither does your employee, point = moot
show us this game you made in 30 minutes retard
>>749566751mega slop
>>749567316You can customize it as much as you want though, it just makes it faster to make overall since you can generate edits to artwork in a few minutes as opposed to waiting hours or days on a commissioned artist to do the same work.
>>749571254He's with DJ Qualls and the other angles now
>>749571254>he's my agefuck FUCK
>>749571148ok, zoomer.
>>749567902we need an /ai/ board, I am tired of hunting my slop in every board. But niggerAPE and Hiroshima won't do it because it will turn the other boards (including /pol/) into obsolescence. Also, their fed bots will get banned.
>>749568953I disprove this though
>>749566751Why do boomers love ai so much? Is it lead poisoning?
finally, a development update on dq12
>>749566751>Baby boomer likes AIstop the presses, nobody has ever heard of this happening
>>749566751It'll most likely be a big pile of shit? I've never gotten AI to make anything decent before. ChatGPT struggles to read Wikipedia correctly and I was part of those AI image threads from before and they literally never made the kinds of pictures I wanted.
>>749567250im his case he has been fascinated with AI since Dragon Quest 4, he always wanted AI in Dragon Quest games.So for him he's always been interested in it, like an otaku and big robots.
>>749571567I too would like a containment board to get all you jeets out of here. The only one to have been equally obnoxious were bronies.
>>749571787AI is sort of a different topic with anyone developer who has ever been interested in RPGs because the IDEA of it would bring them so close to the "ideal" of what an rpg could be if actually pulled off. It's going to be a curiosity in the RPG arena for a long time since the "run like a gamemaster/adapt to any situation" is the ultimate fantasy for mimicking the tabletop RPG these are all at their most base level inspired by.Once they've got that idea in their head, they're going to be okay with all sort of other ideas surrounding AI because it all eventually returns to that ideal
>>749571842you are a "white" tranny if you hate AI, that's the rule, anon.
wow we really are evolving backwards.
>>749567902/v/ isn't one person.Make your own opinion, don't pick ideological sides, be critical of everything: if you follow the opinion of others you're giving up your freedom.
>>749572180Go to bed Tim. Steam's still not going to get rid of the disclosure.
ai or not, I expect DQXII to be a megaturd that will kill a series already on its death throes. whatever edgy shlock they were doing before must have been REALLY bad for them to bin the entire concept and start over from scratch, and they're definitely rushing this shit out the door because executives are getting angry, and because everybody wants to move on from this fiasco.this generally only ends in one way for the final game.
>>749567902pro free AI toys for everyone, anti corpo enshitification/jeetification
>>749572056They're going to be waiting for a long time.The earliest model to not have been completely shit at roleplaying (with actual roleplaying books) was Gemini Flash 2.5 with 1 million tokens of context. If you try to run something locally it'll shit itself after like 3-10 prompts due to context limits. (maybe the latest deepseek is different haven't tried that in a year but that's like minimum 420gb of VRAM/Unified memory so like $70,000 . $250,000 for minimum specs)
>>749572236then don't choose, no one if forcing you to do it. Only the antis are the ones fucking you over and over to repeat "I HATE AI".AI bulls only show you their shitty slop.
>>749566751>has just releasedWhere?
>>749566751Because I have 200 unplayed games in my library. The fuck do I need more for, especially ones made with fuck all for creative vision?
Dragon Quest's appeal is how it has been simple stories and immutable gameplay. An AI could probably pop out a DQ game as long as it didn't hallucinate it was retarded Sqeenix dev Yoshi-P and decide to make up its own shitty action gameplay instead of proper jRPG gameplay
>>749571254>suicideWow, poor guy.
>>749566751Japan crying about copyright, fan games, and piracy 24/7 but loving AI still confuses me
>>749567250Based
>>749567316SPBP
>>749572609Imagine now everyone shitting out a game every 30 minutes, and maybe only the 0.003% is good.
>>749572545Doesn't exist, OP is a liar
>>749567902The only people who like this shit are useless 500lb entitled assholes crying about their disability for being fat and literal boomers.
>some of the banks with the biggest exposure to the AI bubble are JP banks that bet big on data centers
>>749567902>/v/ is a singular hive mind
>>749572056Except that doesn't to apply JRPG developers, so you're wrong there.
>>749571254>>749572545>>749572883He linked it in a tweet, you interrogate a guy over a robbery. It's more of a proof of concept than a game though, it's 5 minutes long and goes>ask question>suspect answers>you present contradicting evidence>he fesses up after doing that 4 or 5 times>the endYou could easily make this in around the same time without AI if you know basic coding.https://claude.ai/artifact/HgsUQQywVPG8X87dp1NWHu
>>749567902GenAI for art assets is fucking cringe, especially when anyone has the gall to charge you money for it.For coding it's more complicated. By itself AI is great for coding, but without human review there's a risk of garbage code just being continued down the line forever and ever.The issue with AI is that it's still at the stage where it just fucking lies to you because it all it does is trawl reddit for solutions to answers.
>>749572812Japanese golems have no real opinions or souls. They hate piracy because their CEOs say they're bad. They support AI because their CEOs say they're good. Simple as
>>749567902/v/ is mostly low IQ doomer chuds who hate AI because they can only imagine things getting worse. High IQ chuds recognize its potential to revolutionize society in ways that are conducive to our goals.
>>749572236The idea that AI defenders are all indian and that pro-AI is the brownoid faction is such an oddity of this board. AI is nuking pajeet jobs as we speak. Call centers have basically gone extinct over the last two years.
I'm personally pro AI
>>749573906What's very weird about the AI boom is that it's essentially globalism or reverse-colonialism pushed into overdrive.American land and american communities are being sacrificed at the altar of data centres so millions of thirdies can output unfathomable levels of worthless slop to nobody for no good benefit whatsoever. This is all to provide a few billionaries the power to create their own technofeudal societies that every politician thinks they'll be a major benefactor of.Typically it's the poor countries who have their resources harvested and shipped back to the motherland, but we are now at the stage of lategame capitalism that the asset-stripping strategy once applied to companies is now just happening to countries. The wealthy countries will be torn apart for their meat, a few rich people will benefit and they'll be fine cos they can go to their mansion bunker in Hawaii or whatever as every country degrades into poverty. There will be no more rich and poor, just everyone is equally poor except for those who control the AI surveillance and social credit tools.Very cool stuff.
>>749566751you can already do that with programming if you use tutorials/ blueprints/ have low standards
>>749574452You eurotards really have no concept of how much empty land we have
>>749572812Japan is pretty damn angry about AI on an individual level. The second twitter started talking about training on their images they lost thousands of artists. Yuji Horii is a writer who started with VNs so being able to slop out a VN scene is probably fun for him.
>>749570956How do you live with this level of projection considering the amount of anti ai raiding trannies in the thread up to your post?
>>749574619Really? And yet people can't even live in their homes due to the noise generated, and as if that wasn't enough, their electrical bill is astronomical because the data center cost is being paid by the community.The eurotard stands correct.
>>749574823>How do you live with this level of projectionIt's a magical thing called pattern recognition.DALL-E general being spammed to the point 10 threads were an AI slop general. Recomps made by people get a thread or two at most. Suddenly endless spam from jeets using their AI boyfriend Claude shilling a subscription service that poorly slops out ports that maybe work.It's obvious when something has natural interest and something is being shilled. Spamming a subscription service and pushing people to pay for it is blatant advertising.Don't be a retard.
>>749573218>Not only that. But banks that have invested upwards of 10 to maybe a 100 billion would be left with a giant fucking hole when they realize they will be apart of the collective who expected this shit technology to make trillions per year>Not just them but investment banks, insurance companies, others will have to close the hole left over forcing them to take consumer money or government money to clog it and downsize to that level by laying off hundreds of thousands to maybe half a million.>The government will be forced to selectively save banks as they cannot allow more trillions to be dumped onto the debt in order not to default>putting together what the data centers were supposed to create in terms of jobs in both maintain and buiding them, coupled with almost every single corporation investing medium-heavy in AI. It is planned that 20-60 trillion dollars will be wiped from the economy.We are at levels of Over never before seen since the first great depression. There's no FDR to save us now.
>>749567902/v/ is a target of these saas companies multi billion dollar marketing teams. Always has been.
>>749573448communities can only be pro-skub or anti-skub, anonnuance? what's that?
>>749566751Here are some simple rules>If you're proDon't dehumanize or insult anti AI peopleDon't make strawman or bad faith arguments >If you're AntiDon't dehumanize or insult pro AI peopleDon't make strawman or bad faith argumentsHope this helps.
>>749575310/v/ in the neo dustbowl era will be something.
I do find it interesting that Japan, a country that treats piracy among the worst crimes you can commit next to rape and murder, fucking loves generative AI. They'll scream bloody murder if you backup an old gacha game but love generating slop that is trained on copyrighted materials.
>>749567902being completely pro or anti without nuance is a midwit stance. AI is strong for: writing code, as a search engine, generating voices. AI is bad and produces visible slop when generating pictures and videos.there's also the topic of who owns the tools. local, open source models = good. saas models possessed by tech giants who want to speedrun AGi = bad.
>>749566751>SAAR I MAKE MORE AI THREAD SAAR YOU MUST LIKE THE AI THREAD OR I ARE FIRED SAAAR SAAAAAAARnow would be a great time for 4chins to go down for a month or more
>>749574823i've seen those threads actively call themselves a general (if they're not using some calling card like GO GO GO or some shit), and if you call them out they'll just call you a luddite or go off on some random /pol/ shit almost every time. there might be some that are just mildly interested in the tech or something but it absolutely reeks of some sort of campaign even more than the DALL-E shit that clogged the catalog for a couple years.
>>749570084
>>749567316People without a soul don't understand this. They are an empty husk devoid of anything of value to share to the world.
>>749567316Aka Art is a white man’s pursuit.
>>749567316>The purpose of making a game is in the joy of getting to personally design and control every single detail of itno nigga it's so people can have fun playing a fun game
>>749575940>complains about AI>posts an AI imageYou are a golem.
>>749567902As he who speaks for /v/ I declare that AI is not for me.
>>749566751It's interesting how the most productive and accomplished people are either pro-AI or indifferent about it. Meanwhile it's the unaccomplished redditors vehemently against it.
>>749567316>There is no value in telling a wageslaves to make a game.You know, Directors make the Games, the other are there to do what they want. Ai does it now. Everyone can try to be a Director. Maybe you are the next Kojimbro?
because GPT is better>>749567316why do you think that's not doable with a code monkey? no other dev does literally everything himself
>>749566751i will pay for effort so i expect all ai games to cost less than a dollar going forward
