>>749588672
i can't make a game no matter how easy you make it

>>749588672
Never needed to.
I knew Godot will surpass Unity eventually.

>>749588672
>>749588920
Post a Godot game you actually finished and it's actually good.


Go ahead. Prove you're not a shill. You won't.

>>749588987
Dome keeper.

>>749588672

why? Also gamedevs, with Ai you an now create your own engine in two months and use that instead

>>749588672
I like Godot but what happened this time? Did Unity do something hilarious again?

>>749589040
It's the last bastion for programmers to have fun without AI.

>>749589040
unreal is going full a.i.

>>749588672
Are the Redot fags still porting features that Godot already have?

Sorry for entertaining the idea that this dogshit was ever an option. I'll never make that mistake again.

>>749588831
make addons or minigames for it, and design it in a way where you can attach it to other projects

>>749589161
That's basically all they do. They add new features that don't fucking work, get rid of em, and then take the newest Godot version with the baste red robot. All of their major contributors left a long time ago

>>749588987
>Prove you're not a shill
You know that Godot is free and open-sourced, right?
Meaning that there's nothing to sell to you.

>>749589040
>Unity
A.I. slop
>Unreal
A.I. slop
>Godot
No A.I. plugins or agents. GD Script is just python 3. No auto complete or auto frame gen. No forced DLSS. Godot is heaven if you like playing with your own skills.

>>749589094
that sounds retarded, they should be embracing AI tools instead, just in a responsible manner I mean not like Unreal.

How hard is making a game with just a language + vulkan? that's the main thing that would make me use a game engine, vulkan just seems like this insane giga retarded entry barrier for making a simple 2d or even basic low spec 3d game. I know there's opengl too but people scream not to use that in 2026

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Godot was never my problem my autistic desire to make all the art and music myself was the problem.
I could have programmed my own engine for my game using a framework within months, with AI now it would take weeks.
And yet after 6 or 7 years I have barely even improved my in asset creation skills.
Pic rel is what years of hard work looks like.

>>749589280
>just in a responsible manner
They are being responsible, just not the way you want them to be.

>>749588672
Does level editing still suck? If so, I'll never apologize.

>>749589094

>have an idea for a game
>need to make a prototype
>im retarded so im not gonna use AI
>spend a month working on it
>finally try it out , turn out is not that fun at all
>one month wasted

other case
>make the prototype in an afternoon with AI
>only wasted the tokens for that 5 h window
>continue working on other ideas

yeah , just use AI

>>749589209
It's funny that the whole drama relating to that wasn't even caused by Godot, but in an unofficial Discord server that chuds assumed were Godot staff.

>>749589386
To the chuds defense there was no official discord and the unofficial discord was effectively functioning as the official discord, but you're right

>>749588672
>hurr durr no AI
Claude, generate a fork of Godot that autoimplements Claude in the integrated script editor

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>>749589280
You're dumb. You can use AI, but Godot isn't forcing it into every fucking tool like Unreal Engine or making it auto load agents like in Unity. Tell me how that's not responsible. You have to physically go out of your way to use A.I. in Godot, as it should be for any creative tool.

>>749589281
That would be a giant pain in the ass and I recommend you use AI if you go that route and then it might be rewarding but only if your goal is to understand graphics engines.
I recommend a framework like raylib + C, you can still be autistic about shaders if you want, or use SDL3 if you're willing to debase yourself with C++.

>>749588672
>duuuhh post 11 good games!!!
>anon posts 11 good games
>NOOOO THOSE DONT COUNT!!

>>749588987
Every time. You've done this shit so often that I think you need to prove that you're not the shill.

>>749589479

You can also use SDL3 with Odin

>>749589368
Go to Unreal Engine then, faggot.

>>749589368
You're not a developer.

>>749589476
>Godot isn't forcing it into every fucking tool like Unreal Engine or making it auto load agents like in Unity
Yeah that's what I mean by responsible, just having a way to at least implement the tools into the workflow for coding. I code for a living but beyond finetuning certain mechanics I don't consider it much of a creative endeavor.

>>749589596

thank god because developers are dead.

Has anyone here fucked around with CRT shaders? Surprisingly hard to get your settings feeling right

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>Blender 2.79
>Unity 2019 LTS
*eats werther's original* Yep. It's game dev time.

>>749589368
>Last bastion for developers to have fun
>"HURR DURR WHY JUST USE AI AND HAVE NO FUN PROGRAMMING AND CREATING"
Bleak future for smart people, when you have retards like this existing.

They let the machines think for them, so they have no thoughts
Just the demand you lobotomize yourself with them or be murdered via starvation to death

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>>749589619
I'm starting to understand why people hate Pajeets like you.

>>749589670
Smart people are using these AIs to streamline this solved shit. Even as a software dev I can admit it allows the actual creatives (music/art/writing) better chances at actually finishing their games.

>>749589721
The AI workflow honestly feels like shit to me
Like it doesn't feel as if you're a developer anymore, but one of those guys on the factory floor who mindlessly puts the caps onto toothpaste tubes or something for 8 hours

No.

>>749589807
If you do it piecemeal and actually learn what it's trying to tell you it's very helpful for noobs.
If you go full indianmode and say "Claude, make me a game" you're fucked. But I agree it's really good if you can adequately describe what you want and sort of know what you're looking at

>>749589807
Where are these smart people with the cancer cures that we were promised AI would bring?

>>749589830
good news
companies don't want developers
they want people that have the bare minimum neurons required to ask a prompt and maybe judge if it works

>>749589876
Theyre reverse engineering skate4 and Final Fantasy Tactics

>>749589807
AI is just used to churn out slop that smarter people already made. You must be a shit developer, or a liar. Using a tool doesn't make you smart. Intelligence makes you smart.

>>749589807
Kinda true. I'm an art-fag and it is helping with some shit, but you still have to learn a lot of technical stuff or your game won't run or feel good

>>749589830
This is what the AI companies want. Middle class people shambling around, gaping in awe whenever they have to make a decision, feeding their paychecks to “agents” that consume product.

>>749588672
someone will vibecode an Unity clone in rust and make open source.

>>749589830
Game dev involves so much iteration and play testing that I feel like an AI agent isn't really adding much because you'll still be tinkering with every damn variable you have constantly anyways

>>749589960
If you're talking about the modern AAA studio, yes, literally those people are already treated exactly like AI agents anyways. Making them actual AI is almost no difference to the workflow at these studios

>>749589328
what game are you making that involves jewish hitler?

>>749589807
This is the exact attitude Pajeets have when it comes to cheating.
>It's already been solved so why do I have to work
And this is also why people pay you less.

>>749589876
Never heard of them, I know there's a lot of con artists in AI but the tech actually has some uses in software dev that isn't just slop, the quality of code is very good these days, like people make fun of the decomp craze but the fact that they work at all even somewhat deficiently is incredible and never before seen.
>>749589928
Smart people know decompiling by hand is extremely stupid and aren't wasting their time doing stupid shit even if it's fun, AI just streamlined an already solved yet tedious process.
>>749590005
If anything I think AI will actually give us better games in this case, because they keep hiring the dumbest motherfuckers on modern game studios that this shit is actually an improvement.

Obviously don't let AI do everything but as an assist tool it's very powerful
>but I don't want to pay to jew mcnoseberg for AI
then run a local model, even those are becoming extremely powerful and run on any 16gb VRAM card these days.

>>749590005
I already struggle to know my own codebase due to being an ADHD fuck
So an AI agent writing a bunch of stuff atop of that leaving me just clueless as to what the game even is doing is a painful thought

>>749590159
Yeah, you're not a developer. Larp all day bro.

>>749590239
whatever you say man

Game studios have shitty management priorities and AI doesn't solve that. And the CEO/shareholders/managers aren't going to automate themselves out of a position of power.

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I'm gonna save a ton of money by not buying any game made with Unreal Engine.

>>749590167
Comment all your shit,
Before you call it for the night, at the very top comment what it was you were trying to do or what was bugging you

>>749589281
Just use bevy + claude

>>749589386
>It's funny that the whole drama relating to that wasn't even caused by Godot, but in an unofficial Discord server that chuds assumed were Godot staff.
As someone who was in that server for programming help, it was only unofficial in name, I think a fair few moderators/higher up people were given equivalent roles in the new "official" server, even. The "official" server was also even more Lefty brained than the unofficial one.

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>>749589830
I'm 109% sure that gaming is dying thanks to AI slop. Why even buy a game if it's just some shitty ideas guy and his prompts? It's not art, it's not story, it's not programming. It's just trash.

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>>749588672
Why should I?

>>749590239
>>749590257
And btw, most job postings for software dev basically expect you to know how to use agents and train them to create and maintain software and sometimes create slop these days.
Like I don't like slop like AI art or text generation but coding after a certain point is mostly tedium and as a prediction machine AI just erases that part.
>>749590167
Fun thing, you can ask AI to analyze your repo, create you a sort of design document and even comment everything so you have an idea what certain code is doing without letting it touch anything else. I've used it in the past to help me understand code where the previous dev didn't leave any documentation or comments.

>>749590551
Literally every company does this to appease their gays ass investors. In Godots case, it's to keep the community contributing in good faith.

>>749590551
How's Redot doing? lol.

I don't really give a damn about what engine is being used as long as you put actual fun games on the table. Never heard any from godot

>>749589807
If AIbros were smart, then they would realize that the stigma towards ai is what is preventing AI companies from enshittifying their service. You don't want people to widely adopt it because AI companies will immediately jack up the subscription fees and restrict their service after realizing that they've captured the entire market.

All for-profit tech companies build goodwill before worsening the quality of their service.

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>>749590586
I work as a programmer at a logistics company. We don't train A.I. nor use it that often. In fact, relying on it can get you fired.

>>749590703
Slay the spire 2

>>749590703
heckin Cassette Beasts and Cruelty Squad are lit yo

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>>749590493
Gaming has never been more alive! AI holds the collective synthesis of all the artists and engineers work directed towards any individuals dreams! Luddites BTFO!

>>749589012
>AI engine
>you didn't make it, don't really know how it works
>no one else knows either
>no documentation
>costs a load of money to create
>zero games released

>Pre-made Engine
>you also didn't make it, tons of resources to show you how it works
>other people and publishers already know how it works
>tool chains are already in place for consoles
>decades of documentation hand written
>is free
>at least has SOME games released

You're not going to make an engine with AI better than one that has been in development for 20 years and is 3 million lines of code. At least not now. Especially if you're not some senior developer who could already do it by hand it they wanted. Unless you're a decent size studio having an in-house engine is a mistake. Publishers offer things like console porting, playtesting, general QA/support, marketing and funding. You most likely want a publisher. Guess what? Publishers don't want your vibecoded game engine that fucking no one knows how to use and you can only bugfix by asking AI. Unless your game is somehow already massive viral hit (doubt) no one will want to publish your crap.

>>749590628
>Literally every company does this to appease their gays ass investors.
Unity doesn't. It's the one thing I noticed for awhile which was for all the talks about it being the tranny engine it was godot that does this shit and not unity. That was just before that big drama unfurled where godot being run by a load of trannys become quite well known.

>>749590747
This is true, but for now the big companies don't give a shit and just spend, what I'm saying is a lot of things in life are ponzis/tulip manias. Also models like Qwen3.8 27B work very well locally if you have a good GPU, a good backup for when they inevitably raise the price of tokens to their real value.

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>>749590826
God this website needs a Pajeet filter.

>>749590638
Its a disaster

>>749590905
I mean we'd do the thing where we respond to "pajeet" with "tranny" but you already went ahead and posted a pic of yourself.

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>>749590638
It's still getting new users, and new people crop up showing the games they're working on. Though there's really only one guy in there actually set to release a game soon, that's pretty proportional to the Godot server if you scale it up too, with maybe like 10 guys actually releasing a game for every 100 constant WIP posters. Really the biggest contribution Redot makes to the gamedev scene is acting as a deterrent for the Godot guys to go full retard again, since doing so would just flood people towards the chud "fork"

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>>749590889
https://unity.com/inclusion-diversity
So... You just lying for the fuck of it or...?

>>749590797
Ah yes, the game is affiliated with SBI?

>>749591047
I was mainly looking at how it kept that shit out of twitter. Not even trying to make some shitty rainbow logo. But I guess there is some shit if you actually look for it.

>>749589670
Nobody enjoys programming after doing it for living

I think creativechads are actually going to be survivors of the AIpocalypse. The one thing AI can't do is creativity

>>749590826
It is a bubble because AI loses money with every new client. It simply needs its own AOL Time Warner fusion.

>>749590797
Always thought slay the spire was stupidly overrated.

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>>749590638
you tell me

>>749589002
Based game
I knew Godot was the answer when I played Vampire Survivors
Death to unityfags

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>>749590443
Thank goodness. A lot of communities drift leftward because right wingers are antisocial people who throw an planetary-wide shitfit when they're pissed off. Pic related was a conservative guy who got deported by ICE over twitter beef he had with a zionist.

They can't deal with their anger normally by just insulting back or sleeping it off, they immediately sic feds or vigilantes when they're mildly slighted.

Even chuds would rather present themselves as centrist instead of right wing, because they know how noxious that camp is. Imagine having Christians harass you over a denomination or having half naked women. Or white supremacists accusing you of being trans or non-white constantly.

>>749591167
I enjoy programming and I do it for a living. I guess there really is a difference between code monkey and engineer.

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>>749591192
You goys dismissed Canva for years, and now you got exactly what you voted for. Enjoy!

>FUCK AI
>FUCK GODOT
... i use claude to help me write GDScript
yes i'm retarded. i don't care. i'm finally making games and they're fucking awesome

>>749591326
Is this some le old ai nostalgia slop idgi

>>749591148
They change their logo to rainbows on reddit every June. They're not exactly a good example of staying away from that shit, but as I said, every company does this for appeasement. You can't blame them for it either.

>>749591383
The user likely dismissed Canva free templates for years like his ilk did, and now he misses it because it was infinitely more aesthetically pleasing than the AI slop in every shop. Too little, too late, enjoy the AI slop everywhere.

>>749590903
They don't care because they know that there's a sizeable backlash towards it and they're trying to build goodwi. That's why they try to aggressively force it in everyone's devices/services instead of having them willingly adopt it themselves like they do with videogames.

>>749591192
It can do creativity and that doesn't change anything imo because humans can actually compete in that domain, you cant just optimize it away like simple programs.

>>749591414
It's permanently a gay flag icon now. Shown here >>749591242
They get hostile if you ask why, too

>>749591303
I fucking hate it. Spent years working as a swe and I love being able to rig up a web of agents that handle the repetitive and menial shit.
If I ever get fired, I will become a mushroom farmer because fuck this gay ass career

Why the fuck are you fags having an AI meltdown

Godot is an engine that lets people make good 2D games or 3D2D games

You cant make good games in Unity or Unreal. How do I know? Just look at every Unity and Unreal game. When 'pastel soulgassed asset flip' is the default setting, you get the current state of gaming. I dont need to have used a single engine to make this claim. The results speak for themselves.

>>749591492
>It can do creativity
How?
I mean it can recreate any art style, sure. So if you're some creative chad who invents a new art style, nothing is stopping you from getting some AI to design shit in your style etc

>>749591351
Based. No one cares what luddies think

>>749588672
Godot is good but Unreal 5 is better. Even if you use the c++ plugin, Unreal is still capable of advanced optimization techniques. I'm told AI is still not smart enough to fully understand Unreal 5.

>>749591529
Obra Dinn? Cuphead? Seems like good games to me anon.

>>749589209
>>749591017
the fundamental problem is that it's a spite-fueled move that directly goes against the original project's strength: contributor momentum quality and direction of said contributions notwithstanding
spite lasts only for so long, while godot had already carved out a niche for itself as THE general-purpose retard-friendly game engine, so it was not hard to weather the drama
and tbdesu, if you were against the technical direction of godot, and not just ideological, then forking latest commit before find-and-replacing the name is misguided at best
the joke that there are more open source game engines written in X than games released with said engines is there for a reason, there are options if you care to look

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>>749588672
I hate the fact that you can never fucking enter a gamedev thread on /v/ without having 10 indians shitting themselves about ai
Back in the day we had nodev retards who never finished anything but they were easy to shun away, now there are ten times as many and they never shut the fuck up about how much better they are or whatever

The only thing that has stayed the same is the amount of games that get finished which is close to zero

>>749591778
Gatekeeping tranime luddites in shambles. Love to see it

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>>749591685
Redot has been quietly moving away from being just a spite fork, and has actual unique features like traits and structs, as well as unique nodes, now. They've also been cracking down on chuds within the server for their constant politisperging after the gaggle of retards constantly in the general chat nearly drove off the one guy making and set to release an actual game with the fork. It's still a pretty openly right wing space, but they're at least trying to present it as a more focused on the technical side fork, now. Almost entirely in part because of what you're describing, I see people cross post across the servers regularly, and if Godot isn't fucking things up with power tripping jannies then Redot by extension needs to actually start trying to be unique if they want to hope to attract more than one guy to make games with their stuff.

You (really more so anyone else reading my post, since you've probably already made up your mind on them) can dislike them all you want, but to frame it as entirely just a protest fork still is false, especially when I've imported my Godot game into Redot and the performance metrics like object calls are actually significantly different. For all I know the engine is actually worse, but it's undeniably different at least

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>>749591778
literally just go to the bant thread over at >>>/bant/agdg
both the /v/ and /vg/ threads have been shat up by like on retard and the only real answer you have are jannies sweeping him out (worked really well for the drawthreads LMAO) or giving up and using an ID and Flag hellhole

you can always also just not use a shitposting imageboard for video game development discussion

>>749590586
>Ask AI
I don't trust it and I don't trust it because I know it will inject their master company's ideology into the documentation.

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>>749592049
i don't want an openly left or right wing space, i want a game engine.

>>749592169
I am aware of the /bant/ agdg threads but my favourite yesdev (kannadev) doesn't post progress there

>>749592169
infinity agdg also seems actually productive but I don't lurk these threads much anymore

>>749590024
I was going to make a chudcore game that was like a beat em up.

>>749592195
you can use Godot or Redot and just never fucking talk about it, and keep any interactions in whatever group you choose related strictly to gamedev. It's what I do and it's been working out great so far.

Especially because if you have any questions on course material for something like GDQuest, Claude is gonna answer the question better than any retard in either group will (speaking from experience you'll rarely ever get help with your programming issue ANYWHERE, so debugging is a critical skill you have to hone on your own.) Really the most valuable thing you can get out of either group is to see if your game design is shit (mine was, they helped, as in both groups have). If you're an unsociable asshole then said feedback is going to be a struggle to attain everywhere.

Don't let the politispergs of both sides sway you, nobody fucking cares. And if they do care that you're either side, or neutral, just shut the fuck up for a week and everyone will forget about it and move on to the next hotbutton topic

>>749591778
>gamedev thread
It's literally every thread. Even /an/ has AI jeets shilling.

>JUST USE THE HECKIN AI
Do you plan to murder me if I don't?

>>749592598
Nah man, do whatever you want. But just so you know we're all retarded from using AI so you'll have to find answer somewhere else if you get stuck.

>>749591778
this entire board and maybe even entire website is just AI shilling and it's no wonder because how else would this piece of shit site make money? all they run are deepfake aislop porn ads or gay grooming discord servers. 75% of the time they literally have zero advertisements and it's literally advertising the advertisement for you to put your own shit there

cant wait for an AI Chad to vibecode a godot fork that absolute blows regular godot out from the water. gonna be epic to see the shambles.

>>749589272
Unreal is the hardest to AI slop right now because of blueprints. AI takes far more thinking to figure out graphs.

>>749589830
>Like it doesn't feel as if you're a developer anymore, but one of those guys on the factory floor who mindlessly puts the caps onto toothpaste tubes or something for 8 hours
That's an you issue if your so stupid and uneducated to do that. Everyone who is creative from a good family has no issue. Educate yourself and synergize with the AI to optimize your workflow instead of being the cog in the machine.

>>749592049
>dislike them all you want
come on anon, i wasn't too abrasive even on the level of casual human discussion, much less one on this radioactive shithole
if the dudes behind redot really managed to optimize and pivot their fork, good for them and the horse they are riding on, but i still don't know anything and don't care to find out
my sentiment is more about the underlying principles behind, since even if drama was the straw that finally broke the camel's back, i think it's a pointless half-measure: neither a necessary compliance with the obnoxious community, nor a full abandonment for (seemingly) greener pastures
maybe if you yourself very much liked how godot worked then it was worth preserving? i had big technical gripes, and was mostly interested by the sheer scale and momentum

>>749592997
Why can't YOU do it faggot?

Can it natively publish to consoles yet?

>>749593134
>Everyone who is creative from a good family has no issue.
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
jeet poster giveaway
that is so funny man

>>749588672
Making boring ugly card games with no features has never been so epic bacon narwhal!

>>749593240
Not enough funds to purchase enough tokens.

There's no overlap between the games I like and games I can make..

>>749593368
Just prompt more tokens to prompt more stuff

>>749593241
It's been able to do that for a long time you just have to get the good goy pass from microsoft/nintendo/snoy first

>>749588672
Is the current Humble Bundle set worth buying for like $25 for GODOT?

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/learn-to-make-games-in-godot-2026-software

>>749589272
Anon, while the engine does not accept slop assisted contributions, people are building slop plugins and use slop assistance for games. me included.
you will never be sure a game is ai free unless you monitor dev pcs at all times.

>>749593853
>zenva
never heard of them
>site is all AI slop and courses are all how2AI
lol

>>749593813
>ship console games using Godot through certified third-party providers.

>>749589272
>GD Script is just python 3
Doesn't that, ironically, make it better than others for vibecoding?

>>749593853
Considering that the site also has AI courses, I recommend you avoid it.
I've had the displeasure of taking a course for career-related reasons, and the course makers obviously used AI to build the lessons. It felt less like I was at a class, and more like I paid hundreds just to read an online pdf I could have found online. It can really demotivate you.

>>749590586
>>Fun thing, you can ask AI
AI can't even give me a basic plot for a video game that has walkthroughs all over the internet, or answer a question about a book that it scraped a thousand times, why is it different with code?

>>749593082
Which is precisely why UE6 is moving to a convoluted scripting language with completely fucked syntax.

>>749591526
>I fucking hate it.
>Anon picked a career he hated because it pays well.
>Anon is now regretting this choice.
Such is life.

>>749588672
>make game in godot
>license says it's my game and I can do what I want with it
>don't have to pay anyone anything
it really is the best option

>>749594627
depends on the model you use, if you just use free tiers you'll get shit answers
I hook up codex or claude (or a local model in some cases) to the repository I'm working on and give it all the context it needs to do the tedious part of reading all of it and figuring out what it does then ask it to give me a technical summary or infer a design doc and modern models do this almost flawlessly. Again, context is key when you work with it, you need to treat it like the machine it is, not like an oracle.
AI used to be shit for coding until last year but it's actually too good to ignore these days.

>>749589368
Why not just use the llm for coding feedback and advice while you do most of the work yourself so you can fine tune it the way you like

>>749594925
>if you just use free tiers you'll get shit answers
There it is
You're trying to sell me something

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>what makes GODOT good?
>it's not vibecoded garbage (truth)
>jeet shitflinging ensues as the thread is derailed
Unreal(ly shit) lost
Unity (of gay jeets) lost
Learn 2 code or in the trash it goes bell-curve leftists.

>>749595169
maybe a GPU so you can use a local model

>>749591559
>I mean it can recreate any art style, sure. So if you're some creative chad who invents a new art style, nothing is stopping you from getting some AI to design shit in your style etc
Until the next day when everyone else starts making things in "your style" with AI lol.

>>749595264
You have to make it chud coded so leftists wont copy it

I asked AI to give a funny name to detractors and it gave me "Ludditors" hahahahah

>>749595449
lets gooo

>>749594537
Yes if you're a lazy nigger which you seem to be. Or you get permission from your masters and can do it yourself.

>>749595169
>listen, if you try to build a house with just a hammer, itll be shit, you sorta need like, tape measures and-
>HES SELLING ME SOMETHING
lmao. crazy how its also something thatll just build 90% of the house for you in a day and hes going "woah woah woah, 20 bucks? i could spend the next 4 years of my life building a house for free* (my time is worthless after all)

>>749595780
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM

>>749595449
And everyone clapped.