We're out here in Norgan fucking shit up.
>>749596490is it as good as the first game yet?
>>749596590I'm having fun. Norgan is a massive region, and I've only explored maybe 40% of it. I'm just dicking around and taking my time, haven't even finished the DLC story yet. A lot of people were/are still upset that things from the first game got removed in the second one and were never added back in, but I never cared that much. I enjoyed the first game, and the second game is just as fun to me.
end of dlc spoilers: is there a point to doing more vortexes instead of bumrushing satan over and over again?
>>749596956You can Superpower satan and the super special vortex has a lot of great drops.
>>749596910I was extremely dissapointed with base DD2, and dropped it about 3 hours after arriving in the desert area years ago. Can other vocations have no actions bound now, or is it still Warrior with the most available? That shit pissed me off the most.
>>749597116What?They increased the amount of skills you can bind from 4 to 6 for every vocation.
>>749597108awesome, that makes me feel a lot better about the endgame loop because my biggest issue with base game was replayability in the endgame
I can’t play the dlc before the weekend, aaaaghh. Blast in my stead, bros
>>749596590>smaller play area (obviously) but each region is packed with things to find (that actually matters) and enemies that will rape you in hard mode>simpler story and quest, no more main game retardation of "sneak missions">actually different biome instead of another "vaguely greenery medieval europe"I won't say it's amazing but it's a much better experience than the main game, it's not even funny
>>749597184yeah with DA
am i crazy or do the pawns feel completly useless in the dlc ? especially during boss fights, they sometimes just stand around doing nothing
>>749597286I noticed for melee vocations, yeah, especially fightersbut my sorc is doing fine as long as I aggro the enemy and the archer pawns that I hired were also still pretty active
>>749597286Depends on what skills/equipment you use with them.My thief pawn pretty much did more damage than me on the final superboss...
Ay yo this place kinda fucks ngl.
>>749597286I'm at the post game and all my melee pawns can't keep up with all the teleporting and flying bosses at all. Sorcerers can barely get a spell off. Most of the mages I hire seem to be completely retarded and I'll sometimes catch them trying to climb on bosses instead of healing one of my seriously injured pawns. Archers do OK but they don't have the damage or utility to carry a fight.
I'm still going through the base gameI'm level 36 and I still haven't finished Brant's chores, not even playing on Hard
>>749597286theres some sort of bug on bosses like the giant and lesser demon where my warrior would constantly try to climb them and not fight on the ground, if the AI doesnt shit themselves they do a lot of damage with the upgraded skillsarchers are top tier dps pawns overall, the upgraded cockscrew arrow is really strong
>>749596590>is it as good as the first game yet?I'm gonna say yes. Base game felt like a downgrade in many ways, but Norgan feels less like BBI2 and more like they wanted to be a true successor to DD1. There are some things that are worse but also things that are better.The worst thing is that it still has the slow, sluggish '''REALISTIC''' physics/animations that make you feel like you're on the moon, but that's a super-AIDS-cancer that all modern games have, even shit like BOTW. And for some reason, zoomers prefer it.
Heads up to any modders:Equipment Stats Overhaul tanks fps, set it to like 30 or less for some reasonAlso, did capcom fix the pawn AI gimping that happened with 6 skills equipped?
>spell tomes fucking everywhere to incentivize actually using them at all>Still not really anything to make actually going out of your way to do that worth itI feel like there are a million ways that system could be made interesting
>>749596590The DLC is. It can't fix the mess that is the base game; the new dungeons are nice but the main quest, most of the side quests, music, characters and so on are still all sorts of fuck, and as far as I can tell it has done nothing to fix the encounters and base game monster variety. Haven't finished the DLC yet, but so far it is almost everything I wanted DD2 to be in terms of map, encounter and loot design.
>>749597194Farming Satan over and over will only really get you weapons with the same stats alongside that damage increase one, and then an armor or so. I've noticed they're all the same stuff after a while too. I prefer doing the vortexes for a better T4 and 5 mix for transmog too, just keep cycling between the class drop buffs.
>>749597286Are you using shitty pawns? Need to be Norgan equipped otherwise they won't do jack shit.
>>749596490Is the game actually difficult in Hard mode? I'm in NG+ right at the beginning. Does the base game stay difficult even after getting all the OP gear from the DLC?
>>749596490>>749597286
>>749597279The update last month added it to the base game. You don't need DA to use 6 skills.
>>749599213>teleporting and flying bossesSame. I've noticed due to the faster enemies and the teleporting shit, ranged is now king. Sorcerer can't get spells off, but Archer is great with the Corkscrew shot because it can stagger enemies easier. Thief is also pretty decent for Pawns.
>>749596590>is it as good as the first game yet?Nope because the game still feels like moving underwater, the game desperately needed a turbo mode like DMC
>>749597184>They increased the amount of skills you can bind from 4 to 6 for every vocation.Does this make Warfarer actually great now?
>>749603060Warfarer was always the best class I dunno how or why anyone would think it wasn’t.
I preordered DD2 and I still haven't played it because I couldn't make a character I liked. I hate myself.
>>749602985Hard mode just makes the game slightly harder by giving enemies slightly higher stats and more aggression it’s still not a super hard game and base game isn’t intended for super max deeps end game weapons
>>749602537They were not gifts! I earned them through hard work as a kid, writing pages and pages of neat letters so I could today have the handwriting of a Doctor!
>>749596590Its better now
>>749603105Only having three skills was already a massive deal for warrior in dd1, and that's just one vocation by itself
No new vocation is a big L for the expansion. What a wasted opportunity.
>>749596590If DD2 was just Norgan from the start and nothing else, the game would've been met with resounding 9's and 10's across the board rather than the mixed-leaning-positive reception it got. It's leaps and bounds above the vanilla region. Above all else, it's a lot more smartly designed.One mixed bag about base DD2 is that Itsuno has a hard-on for "friction" for banal activities while refusing to add any real teeth to the combat, the result is that you have a massive overworld that looks awesome and feels great to traverse the first one or two times, but quickly sours when you have to walk back across it for the 10th time while every enemy encounter is nothing more than a speed bump and 99% of the loot is worthless consumables or low-tier mats you don't need.Dark Arisen fixes this in a few key ways:>1) Almost every enemy variety can be encountered anywhere across the region, keeping combat fresher for longer>2) Small enemies are more resilient and dangerous (play Hard mode) - not ball-bustingly so, but they put up far more resistance compared to vanilla, large enemies are also more numerous in quantity>3) The overworld is a lot more dense in terms of loot, verticality and open-ness, and has lots of one-way-locked shortcuts, so you feel a more palpable sense of progression when exploring as opposed to just walking in a line across a long coridoor with some junctions>4) RNG armor and weapons drop from almost every source and are superior to what you can buy/craft, encouraging combat and going off the beaten path more than anything in the base game ever didEvery time I leave Norgan do go do another Last Rites dungeon, it feels like going underwater before resurfacing for a breath of fresh frigid northern air.>>749602678There is a pawn inclination that allows them to actively use the books. An NPC you meet later on in the DLC is effectively a showcase of this (being a Fighter with an infinite library stuffed up their ass).
>>749602985>Is the game actually difficult in Hard mode?In Vermund, no. You'll outgear the strength of enemies all the same, and enemy count/distribution is still low enough that you'll rarely get overwhelmed. Because enemies spam their big attacks more often, you ironically have bigger windows to attack some of them because they're more often charging.In Norgan, enemies are much more aggressive normally, and Hard makes them attack almost nonstop.Your gear doesn't go way beyond them the same way you trivialize enemies in Vermund, and the enemy density often results in multiple groups and giant enemies showing up jump you simultaneously.
>>749603318Do what Eir does and 'pretend' to be a Mystic Knight with that new specialization that allows pawns to use Grimoires kek
>>749596590the base game was good on release albeit way too easy and the performance was bad. I'd say 7/10 or even 8. later patches made oxcarts and ferrystones cheaper, reduced physics quality, added retarded looking npc culling, and added permanent portcrystals to main hubs. this diluted the game to 6/10. by the dlc they added in eternal ferrystone and bunch of endgame dungeons but the game is just ruined by now and pointless. I've played the dlc area for 10 hours and so far I've liked it but it's an entirely different kind if game. DD2 is a very tragic game that first got raped by monster hunter and then later got raped by capcom's QoL obsession. the dlc seems like an actual realized vision but pairing it with the abomination that is current state DD2 base game is preposterous.
>Enter DD2 thread>rehearsed talking pointsYou people are so fucking annoying
>Mage and sorc got a second vocation skill>Warrior still stuck with that fuckass shoulder bash nobody has ever once used
>>749597286I think some AI bugs have crept in either with the DLC or even earlier with the performance overhaul. I've had fights where the AI got so utterly and completely locked up that they wouldn't do anything anymore, they'd just stand still as an ogre near the checkpoint town wailed on them. Had to run away and force teleport them out before they started behaving normal again.
is there any reason to keep any of these excess relics?this feels like the type of system where you can eventually transfer lower tier relics skills to higher tiers and it doesnt tell you but maybe im wrong
DDON bros...
>>749603565>he doesn't use Bargeyou must be one of the ones who think Warrior is "slow" huh
Before buying the expansion, explain to me how you access the new dungeons across the base game. As far as I know you get to the DLC region in Vernworth, but there are plenty of new dungeons all across the base game. Do you go back and forth or are you supposed to do all the dungeons first and then go to the DLC region?
>>749603497Wish I could do what all of the guardsmen NPCs with spears do and use spear/quarterstaff techniques.Gimme an Advanced Green "Armsman" vocation that uses all of the spears and polearms the game has but you can't use... and make his R1 a pole vault so I can evade vertically and do plunging attacks.
>>749603650There’s a sidequest that leads you to the first optional dungeon where you get a compass that shows you the other optional dungeons. You’re intended to go back and forth.
>>749603335Uh oh... "They" are going to call you discord beorcan now...
>>749603753>There’s a sidequestIn the dlc region I assume?
>>749603335>1Before meeting the dragon, the accessible area is like a tutorial. There's lots more variety after that, in the snowfields and north of the castle. Also, even that variety progresses with the main quest since THOSE GUYS start to appear at some point. >2Until you get better gear. Then the game becomes too easy again>3>4Too much loot, in fact. You'll spend a lot time just managing your inventory, even if you ignore the special stats and just go for highest STR of MAG. The progression is so fast that it seems pointless to keep track of it, I wonder if there's any point in bothering with the special stats if the game doesnt bring anything that challenges the stat caps. I haven't got to the very end though...
>>749603597Same, i feel like the pawns get stuck way more in the dlc, either on some rocks, going atop of a downed monster and doing absolutely nothing, climbing on a monster to do nothing, and even the pathfinding seems to be worse.
>>749603318My only hope is for the custom skill modder to make the custom vocation mod when he's able to.
>>749603597they broke pathfinding on elevated terrain. the troll near vernworth, on the road to melve used to jump down instantly for ambush. in current game it cant figure out how to come down from the hill and just spergs around the ledge.
>antler toss into upgraded cloudward slashoh man this is funi really hope the rest of fighters upgraded skills are fun like this
Does the dlc add any sexo armors
Is there any way to leave Norgan without using a ferrystone?
>>749603501TrukeThey "fixed" DD by basically just saying "Actually fuck it, all these fantasy sim elements aren't working, it's a looter now" The Dark Arisen expansions are fine, but they're not Dragon's Dogma.
>>749603874Finally someone asks the real questions.How is the slutware in the DLC?
>>749603812>>749603830Yeah, back when we got the performance update I saw one anon mention that the nav mesh had been simplified, no idea if he was talking out of his ass or not. But it might be one of the ways they unloaded the cpu.
>>749603776No, base game.
>>749603497Kinoshita is teasing Mystic Knight... I can feel it... *cough blood*
>>749596590Before the expansion I'd say they're about the same but with the expansion I'd say DD2 mogs now.
Should I start the dlc in ng+ or run back to Brant now?
>>749603618Soon™
>>749603905Still not enough but there's a lot better options than the base game. Also you can transmog the hybrid vocation armor too, since there were some good ones.
>>749603335While you are right, it's questionable if it is possible to create as content rich of game from scratch. Expansion heavily builds on top base game's foundation. Plus it does sacrifice some aspects such as NPS dense areas, NPC interaction, simplifies quests and travel.Overall it's fixing mistakes, not building ambitions ideas from ground up.
>>749603060>Does this make Warfarer actually great now?With mods it makes it better. I have one that let's you bind rearmament to a button combo and each weapon has six skills that you can change at a vocation guild, but you need to have the specific weapon equipped to tweak that load out in the guild. This mod also let's you use master skills. Another great mod is the one that gives every class double jump and dodge roll, and then a third mod that expands the pawn commands so you can force fighter/warrior pawns to do their launch move for platforming even of they don't have it equipped, summon all the pawns to you, or force your mage to cast their buff. I cannot begin to describe how much I've blasted. Literally, the double jump uses thief's powder explosion jump so the blast sound effect plays a lot. Dd2 is so much more fun when you can actually platform and switch classes on the fly.
>>749603874just the metal panties
all the game needs now is monster cocks mod
>>749603256Core skills in 2 are strong to the point melee weapons don't need any weapon skills to perform. Those five skills slots are best used for mage and archer skills.
>>749603650Every Lost Rites dungeon you clear gives you an item that can be used to activate any obelisk in Norgan.An activated obelisk confers three benefits:>Can get the tier-2 version of the new skill for the class it represents>Can get a boost to your base stats>Can tip the scales for loot drops for 24 in-game hours (no idea if it affects quality or likelihood that relics are for that class), this can be upped to 5 days with an item you buy for Norgan Ducats (DLC seeker tokens)>>749603806>Until you get better gear. Then the game becomes too easy againBy no means would I call it a hard game, but the stuff in the DLC doesn't get atomized by higher level gear the way stuff in the base game does because it's a smaller range in terms of power levels (shit starts slowing down at about 50, hits a crawl at about 100, and beyond 200, levels are basically a placebo that only serve to make your pawn less-and-less hireable).Unless the final tier of relics have like 10000 strength/magic or whatever in which case I'll eat crow.>>749604175Yeah but the DLC doesn't really "fix" anything in the base game or even really interact with the base game at all. It just adds a few dungeons.Were it not for the Lost Rites, there would be basically nothing in Norgan that really links to the base game. To the point where they could've feasibly sold it as a stand-alone title for $40 or something.
How do you get to this one?
>>749604362It's inside the coral snakes hideout, so you'll have to do the quest. You can glitch yourself inside I think too, but it's a pain
>>749604362Go into the Coral Snakes hideout. It's in that open-ceiling area where the guards join you in bandit genocide.
Is high empyrean actually GOOD now? Lots of stuff weak to holy in the DLC like that flaming faggot wolf that needs to get knocked out of invulnerable state or the swarms of demon fodder.
Shall never play this """""class"""""
>>749604482We lost Mystic Knight for this. The fuck was Itsuno thinking?
>>749596590Yes
>>749604513He was thinking>Everyone loved the V levels in DMC5 so they will surely love something like it in DD2!Except no one liked the V levels in DMC5.
>>749604513>fun gimmick vocation replaced “fighter but you can stand 10 miles away smacking a ball”It’s over
Is this game better than Crimson Desert?
>>749603619How the fuck are you playing warrior if chaining a useless attack is slower than chaining lights or doing actual high damage attacks
>>749604573> he didn't have his pawn casting MiasmaBruh those balls are literal machine guns.
>>749603618>Reference to an MMO on a weapon for a vocation that would only work in an MMO
>>749604574No. Crimson Desert surpassed it in every meaningful way.
>>749604513At least we're free from that hack's vision now.
Is there a bug with flames not dropping? I just realised I've done all trials and I'm missing one flame for the trickster pillar, not overly bothered but maybe I'll have to retry on a NG+ at some point?
>>749604563If only it were actually anything like V, a summoner or the ability to control your pawns would be kick ass
>>749604638I see. Okay then.
>>749603874DLC has comfy/warm outfits. Less is more Chads are feasting. My pawn looks so cute all bundled up, but still feminine.
>>749603883Initiate NG+
>>749604573Not to Potential Man a vocation I thought was boring, but if it got even half the love warrior did in this game it would be incredibleThere are so many things you could do with a greatshield-focused battlemage that it's kind of annoying how little the original mystic knight had
>>749603874yeee
>>749604649its probably the one where you can only bring your main pawn, you need heavy weight before the path to the skeleton lord and you drop downlet the lich revive the cyclops and let the big guy destroy some walls in that room for more hidden loot before killing them both
>>749604783I knew about that one, but I'll try going in again and re-checking.
>>749596490Any cool new looking armor sets? At least ones that would fit a warrior? Havent gotten around to playing it since im busy with my backlog.
>>749604573>This nokken againIf you abase yourself upon hands and knees and lay prostrate, perchance I shall beseech the Mystic GOD to grant mercy unto your worthless life when he return in the forthcoming DLC.
>>749604757Terrible
Sincerely why did they never add any more vocations? It's felt like we're short at least 1 or 2 vocations and it's been that way since release. Is this the last update for the game? Are we doomed.
>>749604854nyo..
>>749604362theres a ledge you can skyrim up on i think directly east of there. its apparently easier to do as mystic spearhand or thief but i didnt it just fine as fighter
>>749604573tell me you've never played mystic knight without telling me you've never played mystic knight
>>749604854Your mom is terrible
>>749604360I mean meta "fixing" as in trying another approach to game design, progression, balance, map etc based on mistakes made by core game, not remaking old stuff.
>>749604603Barge is mostly for positioning, attack canceling, and tanking an occasional hit. Canceling into the parry move is pretty slick, and probably the best use of barge.
>>749604757The Gryphic looking ones are also similar. Here's my bitch
>>749604868Shitsuno sucks up all dev time with shitster (and maybe warfarer)>Is this the last update for the game? Are we doomed.Not yet. This is only the beginning... Have some faith...
>>749604752>ok yes if sucked but you could have completely remade its identityBut why? Warrior is reworked, but it’s still fundamentally the same type of class. You do big charged hits with a 2 handed weapon. Mystic Knight’s identity was just being a fighter with magic, something you can already do in this game. What does a reworked Mk look like? Fighter but the parries do more damage and you cast abyssal anguish every X seconds?
>>749604391>>749604413>>749604887Oooh that quest, thanks. Not replaying most of the base game on this new character keeps biting me in the ass.
>>749596490is there a working mod to remove blacks from this game?
>>749605084>Not yet. This is only the beginning... Have some faith...Right. The DLC sold like shit. It's over for DD anytime soon. Maybe over the next decade we'll get some news about DD3...
Where are the rest of the vocations, hideaki itsuno you fucking hack.
How come I didn't get offering flame from the "you and your pawn only" rite dungeon?
How about performance on PC? I have a 5600x and a 9060xt 16gb, can someone with similar specs tell me how the game runs for them? I play on 1440p and refuse to use fake frames.
>>749605272It’s a troll dungeon you need someone to tell you the answer to
>>749604838Yeah, there are bunch of cool looking armor sets that would fit a warrior.
Haven't really kept up with pre release info and just started, but is there a BBI equivalent where once I beat the DLC storyline, I can just dick around in a dungeon and fight every enemy in the game for gear?
>>749605089>You do big charged hits with a 2 handed weapon.Warrior has way m ore useful skills than just the same big charge attack over and over>What does a reworked Mk look like? Fighter but the parries do more damage and you cast abyssal anguish every X seconds?More shit on blocking or perfect blocking, more shit to do with shield bashes or charges, more offensive options while blocking, the block-to-magic resource meter from DDO, more sigils and allowing them to be placed on bosses while climbing, something to actually let you jump in front of your pawns before they eat an attack instead of just hoping you can maintain aggroAnd yeah obviously there's a lot more that could be done with spellsword shit like abyssal anguish, this is the game that included twinsword vergil and gave warrior dmc parries and timed press combos
>>749605272The chest by the skeleton lord is a jape chest, the real one is on the bottom floor that opens after beating up the lich.The other offering flame that you could miss is the archer dungeon where you fight a big dragon at the end, below the big platform he's on theres a bunch of chests with the flame being in one of them.
>>749605278I have a 2060 with 3600x 16gb ram Got solid 60fps everywhere except vernworth city on dlss quality Native AA is broken and makes everything very grainyThere's a bug that cause sudden fps drops for few seconds after opening inventory but this can be fixed by menu fps fix mod
DD:DA is greatDD2:DA is great
>>749605491Open world instead of dungeon, you do get to grind for loot, ye
warrior is too fucking kino
>>749605134Yes it's called not buying woketrash You're a hypocrite if you even pirate this shit
>>749604838The best helmet I found is a purple pimp hood, everything else is a fucking circlet.And one weird barbarian style helmet.
>>749605594Huh? Two Arcs?
>>749596490lads what do you want so see on a fighter pawn skill/augment wise?
Should I let Elena out of her cell? Does anything happen? I was saving the magistrate and I found her in here lol
>>749605546Nice that sounds playable st lear. I'm assuming that is the current performance of the game after all the patches capcom dropped way too late?
>>749605706True enchanted counter that smite foes with your weapon enchantment
So is this DLC connected to the base game in any way? All I'm reading about it is that it's for the most part separate, different storylines, even the lore seems to be entirely fucking separate to what happens in the base game. How does it work, do you just abandon your Arisen journey midway and just go to notFInland for adventures or does it happen after the base game's story, as stupid as that'd be?
>>749605447>>749605645Since the DLC is very ice themed, any that is covered in winter coats or animal fur fitting of the cold setting?
>>749605790YesThey removed the denuvo and nerfed pawn ai a little
is the new waifu cute
>>749605815Every single one from DLC area has some kind of fur element. Half of them have open tummy
>>749605815
My archer pawn LOVES to use Heavenly Shot. Every like cyclops or likewise fight she'll just fucking post up and obliterate a whole health bar with it. It's awesome lol.
>>749596910No it’s not massive. Everything is a damage sponge untilet tier 4. Satan is just a long drawn out fight damage sponge. The new game gimmicks are running backwards and jumping. Also fighting on cliffs.
Maybe someone would help me out, I don't want to ask at Steam since I need straight answer on whenever Dargons Dogma II uses any kind of kernel-based or similar anti-cheat solution or Enigma.I don't buy games with Denuvo because I don't trust in the slightest the company behind it. Likewise, I don't trust Enigma developers even more. At the same time I don't want to install games that would inject anti-cheat malware. I heard that DD II removed Denuvo but have zero info if it got Enigma instead and some people claims it have something called "Capcom DRM" and call it "anti-cheat". If anyone could clarify this for me, I would be grateful. Thanks in advance.
>Load up DLC with mid 50s character on hard mode>Full battahli smithed+dragon forged gear, how bad can it be>All these chumps are probably rocking in at level 8 on fresh characters>2 bandits and a snowolf? EZ>1 hit, 70% hp gone>The wolf grabs my arm and chunks 10% of my hp per grapple tick>bandit beheads me in the interimNorgen.... is a tough place...I love it here
>>749596490Not my Dragon's Dogma
>>749605815this archer set is my fav so far
I've watched gameplay videos and the physics based combat seems awesome. I saw a guy throw a rabbit to stop a charging bear. What do you lads think? Is the game worth picking up right now? Or is it a wait for sale?
>>749606086it was always good chuddy
Has anyone here tried the Switch 2 port yet?
>>749606086you don't deserve to know
>>749605678It doesn't go off every time. Either the timing is tight or its a bug or something. I just barge into a perfect swing and hope for the best
More like I’m out here getting fucked by beorciggers.It’s like an entire frozen north filled with the guy at the top of the hill with their pet meth-dogs.
>>749596590It's better if you remove nostalgia goggles. DA2 > DA1. Objectively
Now that the dust has settled I think it's time to agree thay trickster is the most fun vocation and perfectly embodies the spirit of Dragon's Dogma. Anyone who doesn't like it just has shitty prawns. Literally skill issue.
>>749597286They tend to climb a lot which is bad for certain vocations. My warr pawn was doing badly because she was climbing instead of doing big charge attacks. Switched to thief and it was great: she was still climbing all the time but thief has deadly climb attacks.
Are Capcom at their absolute career peak right now? Who else is making this many quality games at this level of consistency?
>>749606469Lost Rites dungeons and Norgan really raised my appreciation of Trickster.Especially the dynamic duo dungeon, and the solo arena dungeon.
>>749606374>>749606469>>749606685Itsuno...
>>749606614requiem and onimusha are not quality games
>>749605491like other anon said, the entire zone becomes your BBI with rifts you enter for boss fights that contribute towards juicing up the super boss
>>749606469I was hoping Trickster would’ve gotten some cool new abilties but they just made his shit ones less ass, that one that lets you see the collectables through walls instead of that annoying as shit DING DING DING DING is a godsend that drove me insane
>>749606469Trickster highlights the strongest parts of DD and that majority of players are basic bitch retards.
>>749606036>fighting one of those woolly mammoth giants>charging a big spell>big fucking yeti comes outta nowhere and grapples me>slams head against wall, thrown off a cliff into some trees>stole all my shit>in the distance see my pawns topple the giantThis DLC is great
>>749606723His vision was clear all along.
>>749606469You understand that by framing it as if the point of contention was difficulty, you're just conceding the argument entirely, right?
>>749605943I don't know what kind of anti-tamper it's running but it was instantly cracked.The game doesn't run any special anticheat, just a basic sanity check for pawns which you can disable client-side with a mod if you want to see illegal pawns. Players have been pirating it and I wouldn't be surprised if smokeAPI works.
>>749606036I was level 90 when I started and after a couple hours I’m 140, these enemies are still putting belt to ass, I can’t tell you how many times I’m busy doing shit and catch a tomahawk to the back of the head and lose 30% HP
>>749606860The strongest part of DD was always gimmick AI abuseItsuno's strongest soldiers are not people who like fighting monsters or adventuring or even just action games in general, the real true audience tthis whole time was skyrim youtubers who mash random enemies together in an arena and see who wins
if this stacks with the special stats that already give a huge reduction to charge times, i'll be swinging arcs of mights like a fly swatter... IF BEREN WASNT BEING AN ASSHOLE
is there a mod to lower me and my pawns level back down with appropriate stats for that level? feels sad that i'm now level 200ish and don't get pawn hires and while I know the levels are fake at this point i'd like to just set myself at like level 100 and lock it there
Redpill me on the game as a bab who has never played the original, but someone who IS a Monster Hunter fan. Is the combat as good?
>>749607254yes
>>749607254dragons dogma is the test bed for monhun, the combat is good but not comparable to monhun combat beyond fighting big ass monsters however some of the wilds changes for things like GS are things warrior has in dd2 for example like the shoulder tackle
>>749607254It's better in many ways and worse in others, though better than nu-monhun by default
>>749607342Rise/Sunbreak might be the best MonHun ever made
>>749607224Itsuno's soldiers are single dads who work 5 shifts and pick flowers in video games after he puts the kids to sleep lmao
>>749603874No, every DLC item is fucking full body snow gear
>>749606246It's a bug. People have been Arcing with other weapons somehow.
>>749604840Yeah, we're totally not going to wait 10 years until the next Dragon's Dogma game/DLC comes again.If it comes at all.
>>749605582>>749606848Good to know that the fun doesn't stop, appreciate it!
Some of the archer animations are insanely kino
My sorcerer pawn is carrying my ass and I tickle the enemies in Norgan right now with melee attacks.I don’t know if I’m just retarded and doing it wrong with T1 junk weapons.
Yet another DD2 thread about to hit limit with 99% of the posts crying and sobbing and yelling and shouting and seething profusely because a sequel to a very niche game plays a lot like the very niche game.>>749605206>aktually there will never be another Dragons Dogmawhere did we hear this before?
>>749607605No it isnt. Im just going to spoil it for you. I wanted to change my pawn to a man just for these new heavy armours, they look coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ2-SskAVOs&t=374sTransmog shouldve been there from the very start of the DLC, I can get why people think all the armours look the same, the other ones are rare reveals.
>>749607771That’s basically been my experience in the DLC so far too though I’m not super far.>thief main pawn does ok damage but distracts enemies and doesn’t die>hired fighter/warrior pawn does no damage and has to be healed constantly but distracts enemies>hired Sorcerer pawn auto resolves the encounter if he feels like casting maelstrom or meteors today but he’s gonna fly around pew pewing first
>>749607254Monster Hunter is about positioning, learning the monsters with 20+ moves and managing knockdowns and rage timers, and the expectation that if you get hit you are getting rocked (also limited Carts). It's much "tighter" and you're expected to know your weapon and the monster.Dragon's Dogma is way more about having a party of mixed ability characters, resource management, and doing stuff like climbing on monsters to hit weakpoints and avoid damage, pushing monsters over as a group, delaying an enemy 20 seconds so your sorcerer can cast Meteor, and so on. DD1 was more arcadey and DD2 does more with momentum, weight, physics based actions etc. In contrast it's much looser, fights become chaotic clusterfucks and you're sometimes just throwing any shit at the situation you've got.Both equally fun in different ways, and they do share some design DNA and both completely embody the fantasy of going on an expedition fighting big monsters. Don't expect "Monster Hunter but with wizards" though, cos it's not quite that.The two series are basically alternate versions of the same Capcom brainstorming sessions that happened in the early 2000s, so I can't see why it wouldn't tickle your fancy. DD1 Dark Arisen is probably still a better game, but DD2 is now a solid 8/10 with the DLC.
I love spears and they're rarely seen in games as a melee weapon. This game has a spear class. Is it any good?
got dripped out
>>749608041it has mobility and one of the best AOE protection spells in the game, otherwise, I do NOT like it, most skills feel like gimmicks
>>749607238oh fuck it stacks with arc of might and transforms it to something else :DD
>>749608041Do you like vergil devil may cry
>>749607636Figures. Still a fun little bug at least thanks for the info
>>749596490god i wish i was her sonyou just know
>>749608041It's a "duospear" so it's more of a twinblade and is evocative of a Dragoon playstyle, which personally I prefer but the game is definitely missing the obvious Lancer/Spearman playstyle. It's fun, but it's overtly fantastical silliness and you'll be disappointed if you're looking for a Centurion or Phalanx fantasy. I do like Fighter in this game though, could never gel with it in the first game.
>sorc pawn just shoots magik bolt over and over and then proceeds to climb an enemyHoly fucking shit I will brine you useless fuck
>>749607242I think this is the only onehttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1658
Why is this the only game with genuinely great companion AI?
>>749608168>pawn jumps on to giant enemy's arm>"Arisen! I'm going to be a useless shit for a full minute because I want to give you a boost!">"I'll just hold my arm out and wait... until either you activate me or the enemy flings me off the cliff!"
>get my warrior pawn to 4000+ hp with a busted ass weapon with perks that does extra damage to everything in the game>still doing no damage and dyinggoddamn why is melee so nerfed in this area
>>749607172>catch a tomahawk to the back of the head and lose 30% HPThe snowknackers are little shitheads in a good way. An enemy you can hate.
>>749608282Companion AI is overlooked in most games to make the player feel cool
>>749606732those along Dark Arisen 3 are literally the best game released this year doughbeit. and by a vast, long, looooong margin.
>>749608325sorry bro only ranger is allowed to have fun
>>749608368Isn't cool that my petite elf ranger will do anything to protect me (daddy)?
>>749608282Multiplayer is cheaper and more popular. That's literally it. Why bother developing an AI with various different behaviors depending on the situation if you can write some basic netcode and get more players that way.
Thought about getting the Switch 2 person to play in bed or while taking a shit but there's no cross saves
>>749597286my thief pawn probably does more actual damage than me (warrior) i do like to parry shit though
>>749608435Chat, is this true?
>>749607254DD combat is messy and unpredictable. Small encounters can turn into a big group fight at any moment (this is the best part of the combat)DD1 is more responsive and better to control, while DD2 can feel slow and clunky, and since you're coming from MH, you will definitely take some time to get use to the DD2 movement and control. But I can guarantee as a fellow MH fan there is blast to have once you get comfortable with the game.
>>749608368I feel cooler when me and my retarded little AI kick ass.
>Game keeps crashingFuck me, the worst its that it runs fine most of the time
>>749606614Lmao are you retarded? DD and DMC are dead with Itsuno gone. They have ruined Monster Hunter for e straight games now. Anything they release that isn't resident evil is a massive flop. We are squarely in a crapcom era.
>no sales number announcement from Capcomthis doesn't bode well, considering they announced one million sales for Onimusha just a day after its release
>>749608257hmm doesn't mention if it locks the level in but thanks i'll look into it some more
>>749608796Everything you say is wrong or hyperbole. Maybe you should cope and seethe?
>>749608325Warrior is too slow for pawns, you'd need fighter or thief.Unless you just use non-charging abilities on the warrior pawn, hmm....
>>749608368Its funny because to me seeing my companion keeping up with me is more cool than seeing them passively standing to the side as I do everything.I fully intend to be taking peoples pawns on loot runs and just standing back as trickster/mage and healing them and rewarding them justly for their efforts. I did it in DD1 and now I can do it again.Still no pawn fight pit like Shadow of War where you build your guys and let them fight
>we removed everyone's favorite vocations lolCock and ball torture: the game
>>749608904I know the AI is retarded so I avoided anything that requires a charge and he does well in fights, he’s just doing no damage, was really proud of him basically beating one of those new giants by himself while I and the rentapawns was getting jumped by a dozen of those hoppy cunts
>>749608904Dont put charge abilities on warrior pawns the same way you shouldnt put the perfect block and parry on fighter pawns. This shit only works if you arent in a 4 man group and the enemy focuses on them, otherwise they see an attack coming for an ally and then start trying to parry it.
>>749608904DLC adds skills and the like to speed up charging.
>>749608904personally the only pawns I hire are Archers, Fighters and sometimes Thief. the reason is that I dont like sorcerers since their AoE blocks all view and sends enemies far making me have to look for the corpse and Thief and Warrior climb way too much and dont use their class abilities how I would like them.
>>749603158>>749602985>>749603335I thought base game was good enough for difficulty the "first time" you hit each region, but that's mainly due to sluggish movement outside of Thief's dash, staggering taking 9000 frames, getting wombo combo'd by groups, and physical generally being less DPS than magic (even upgraded engame gear in NG+ Vermund did less damage than my sorceror pawn using tornado or meteor, which melted multiple HP bars while I whittled away at it). In other words enemies are dangerous if you wind up on the back foot. DLC is currently the same as well, that one ruins area just past the stone bridge and the small caves, and west of the mammoth cyclops - that was a gangbang I barely survived.>>7496046382nding this. I like both DDs but Crimson Desert is very good. Only bad thing is that it also has wonky movement.>>749604513It wouldn't be half as bad if Trickster wasn't so gimmicky.
>>749608282AI in games is incredibly stagnant. It's one of those features that requiers a lot of effort but gets noticed by players only when it works poorly. DD has it as the main selling point and still people much rather be able to do every single thing themselves and play it as pure action game than interact with Ai companions in meaningful way. See wayfarer viewed as ultimate best vocation, trickster the worst and mage being exclusively pawn vocation.
why do thief pawns always want to boost me up a monsters back
>>749608814not even in the best universe was dd2 breaking even half that
>>749604638I like Crimson Desert but it's soulless. I only kept playing because I could mod in character customisation. Quirky and surprising but blander than even TES.DD2 for all its flaws still has heart and vision, whilst CD was just a bunch of developers making cool stuff that only barely fits together cohesively.If the devs actually did a CD with Dragon's Dogma style character and party building, and had somebody wrangle all the devs into a singular design document, then it would be fucking baller.
Finally a game where people can feel what it's like to be Canadian.
>>749609343Being jumped by Bugaboos is basically an evening in Montreal
>>749608435>monhun progressively designs monsters more with ranged weapons in mind.>dd2 does the sameSTOP IT
>>749608325Mine just works and doesnt die on hardmode, until the game AI decides hanging on the boss and doing negative damage is a good idea or drowns in the dozen of water pits in norgan or the lost rite dungeonsThe pawn ai isnt too bad at using blood pact either for big damage but loss gauge builds up really fast
>>749609343Grizzly Hills in WoW is still the top of the "Canada tier" list but Norgan is 100% my backyard in the late fall / early winter.
>>749609425> games become more realisticThere's a reason we stopped using swords and spears. Arrows and guns are simply superior, on top of being safer.
Hope the Dullahan mod makes a comeback. I liked what it did with Sorcerer. Hope it doesn't get abandoned because you can use 6 skills now.
>>749609256They all do it regardless of vocation and inclination if they're climbing while you're close. Especially when the monster is down.
Fighter feels nice but I'm not clicking with Warrior for the DLC area. Any tips for Warrior? Haven't found the obelisk for Warrior skills yet.
is hard mode a good idea for a first playthrough or does the bonus xp breaks the balance too much?
>>749609617How do you deal with the shirtless muscle men and women on meth with their pet dogs loitering around and stop them from breaking into your house and stealing your stuff?
Always give your archers explosive arrows so you can do sick double techs.
>>749603874Doesn't look like it you'll have to Transmog to Stargazer
>>749609727>the one village in norgan has 3 fighting aged men max and only one of them is actively guarding their settlement>dont even close the gate they do have at night, the other one is just always openwho is the mother in all this, how does dorin have both a beastren and human daughter, or is it not by blood
>>749604574Not even remotely
>>749609727You get a broken toilet and put it in front of your house. Repels everyone.
>>749609763the amount of people who dont put explosive arrow skill on their pawns is really high when the game just shits out an endless supply of them
Best strategy for a warrior against goatman?
>>749609940hit it until it dies.
>>749609718Power levelling can pose an issue in terms of pawn hiring but for actual game balance it means nothing, Gear dictates your strength. You can safely start on Normal and the game will let you switch to Hard. It won't, however, let you switch down to Normal from Hard. In that sense it's probably best to stay on Normal to start, have a chill playthrough whilst you learn the ropes, and then switch to Hard later on when you feel like it's time to get sweatier.Hard Mode makes enemies more aggressive and they stagger less easily. Some say this only applies to Norgan DLC itself but i'm not sure.As for pawns you can just hire people from /ddg/ or other online communities, that usually works better than relying on randoms who are just hiring riftsluts or boring Kratos cosplays or whatever.
Goatmen are cool.
>give archer pawn a bow with myriad shot upgrade>they start firing it over and over like a machine gunHoly fuck
>>749609830The mother was a human and is dead. Dorin doesn't want to talk about it.I don't think raids are common but when you have to help Dwayne defend it was pretty nuts how many tried to swarm in.
>>749609704roll swift strike 2 on your weapon (bonus points if it has the blue arrow)>>749609940chop his ass
>>749608985? Fighter is still here
>>749605852she's another arisen's pawn. you can't have her
>>749609765>he missed the new fishnets>or the new tummy armor>or the one that's just wrappings>or the fact that you can now transmog into the Trickster underboob armor
>>749610202Can you get her armour?
>>749610256no idea yet. I've not finished the DLC. It's longer than I'd figured it would be.
>>749610256>>749610279you can get her armor. and theres a variation without the bevor so you can show titty
Anons, for those of you who played at launch, did Capcom really dumb down NPCs and Pawns just for performance?I noticed NPCs and Pawns suffer from terrible pathfinding and barely react to the environment, especially dynamic obstacles like carts. Even increasing the NPC bubble only stops the sudden pop-ins.Were NPCs actually smarter back then? What did it look like and what exactly was better?
Pretty stupid how you keep leveling forever and your pawn becomes unhireable despite not gaining any stats past ~150
>>749609343Not nearly enough jeets in DD for that
>>749610279bro this expansion is actually huuuge.
>clear the way to the hot spring so i can carry the dwarf there without trouble>go back and pick him up>5 seconds later>salamander crashes into me>brines the midgetthis fucking game i swear
>>749605134Check basedmods.
>>749610346base game pawns would genuinely have full on conversations with eachother, like straight up generative ai before generative ai bro. dont go looking into it though they scrubbed all records of the release ver
>>749609940pawns best strategy is to climb on him, arisen best strategy is using that skill that can reach and break his horns to neuter him
>>749610202welp, this deal keeps getting worse and worse
acceptable standing collision on stuff like dragons will never not be funny.
>>749610397Don't let it catch you lacking, anon.
>>749610202We'll see about that
>>749609581My warrior pawn keeps climbing shit too even when his basic attack does 7x the damage and it drives me insane
>>749610580This game has the best combat physics I have ever seen. Is it always dynamic like this?
Dangaan wonnered bigly
>>749610376Yeah it sucks, wish they could do something about that. I started the DLC at like 120 and now I'm at 330+ at the end, the exp is crazy.
>>749610832Something with the AI got broken in either the title update or the DLC update.Please fix Capcom…
>>749610925I’ve noticed the melee pawns got significantly more retarded and swing at the air more often
>>749610376My pawn gets only fake pity hires anyway, doesn't change much in the end
>>749610836Adding ragdolls was the best idea Capcom has ever had for DD, watched a warrior uppercut a lizard into the air while it got shot up by an archer. Body flew into a tree and bounced down a hill
>>749610836Yes
>>749610376My pawn only really gets hired if I give it a really good reward for its quest, it sucks bro
>>749610836It can be. It's always luck or skill.
>>749611072Every game gets less soulful when it removes ragdolls.Dark Souls 1 is nothing without the ability to ninjaflip weightless dummies of once heavily armored soldiers off a cliff.
>>749608985? Ranger (Archer) is still here
>Diluvian strike into a griffon's nape to kill it in midairFuck I forgot how much I missed this shitYou're really missing out if you just climb on enemies and do basic attacks or chargeslop
>>749610580This is so cool when it happens with the warrior's upswing too
>>749611072Best part is how context aware pawns are about it.Pick up and throw a goblin at my fighter pawn, and the fucker will Tusk Toss or Cloudward Strike it out of the air like we're playing baseball.
>>749611231
>>749603565>He doesn't bash through everything
>Leave village with dwayne to go fight shit>First encounter with the blackdog the moment I step outside>That wasn't even the actual boss of the quest>Have to do the village defense quest right after
>>749611231>heavy a goblin into the air>my pawn smacks it with an explosive arrow and my mage strikes it with lightning mid flight and it atomizesAmazing.
>>749611336Anyone got the rabbit one where they deflect a charging enemy with a thrown bunny and it sends them flying into a ravine below?
Time to use the third save slot to make a middle-aged Sorcerer Arisen and his redheaded brat Thief Pawn.
>>749611368The same happened to me. I was convinced that it was scripted and the plot of the quest would be Dwayne no longer fearing regular monsters after scared shitless by blackdog.
I am 50/50 on buying this game. How does it run on base PS5 now? My rig is too old to run it well, considering how CPU bound it is.
>>749609940Parry the bastard into oblivion
>>749611072The archer's pinning shot is fucking BRUTAL now with the update they did to pawn AI, my archer glues all sorts of unfortunate fucks to trees, rocks etc when I make them airborne with Tusk Toss.
>>749610346They made pathfinding worse, still functional but worse. It's a bit unclear if anything else in AI got gutted or if it's just a knock-on effect from dumbed down pathfinding.
every day these shill threads are full of bots talking to themselves. fucking crazy
>>749611561Works fine on my PS5
Post pawns. I wanna higher some motherfuckers.
>>749611795you cant afford my pawn bro
>someone gifted my pawn a level 4 relic
I FUCKING HATE GOBLINS
>>749611795Postan.
>Started DLC at level 100>Currently level 190>Still haven't beaten the DLC
I had just started new game plus when I stopped playing this back when it originally came out. How far do I have to progress again to access the new area?
>>749612056As soon as Brant sets up in the tavern you will have a dialogue prompt to start the DLC.
>>749612056The only prerequisite seems to be getting Magistrate Waldhar set up in the library vault.
>>749603843I did that too and loved it, but now I can't stop playing warrior. Warrior with good support pawns feels like how the game is meant to be played, and I can't go back to not having this kind of stagger and damage. Fuck the "weighty" movement, though. That and the complete lack of animation canceling outside of shoukder charge into light attack sucks.
Level 1 hard mode is so good now. Ill never play normal ever again. Eventually I'll try a fresh duo only hard run and maybe solo one day.I heard that weapons you get in the lost rites can be further boosted in the unnoored lost rites by defeating an evil eye, is that true ? How much does these boosted stats compare to DLC ?
>>749612141I didn't do that and I made it to Norgan. You can just talk to him in jail.
>pawn comes back from a hire>gifted a bunch of top tier relics from one personwhat the fuck did he do?Did you fuck my pawn Anon
Ok, the Norgan armors are growing on me.
>>749610832Yeah, this is why I changed mine to thief: she still does the climbtardation but thief at least has good attacks while climbing.
>>749610346>rented fighter pawn throws a enemy into the brine>’I HAVE TO TELL MY MASTER ABOUT THAT’>jumps into the brine after him>my pawn; “unbelievable”Guess he really wanted to tell his Arisen, like a little kid showing his dad a shitty drawing
>>749612562They’re not badOnly thing bothering me is that Transmog is only for the DLC stuff
>>749609161>mage being exclusively pawn vocation.i've had an idea lately that I may do sometime where I do a playthrough as a mage and make her look like whitemane (or as close as I can since gear is a restricting factor) from WoW with warrior/fighter pawns like they're a personal entourage of scarlet crusader bodyguards
>The other master grew mistrust >The other master grew mistrust >The other master grew mistrust Nigga I swear my beautiful girl is not infected with dragonsaids. Other players are pussys.
where camp kits consumable at some point? they really throw these at you as loot everywhere
>>749612691>my pawn; "unbelievable"Pawns can be so funny
Holy shit kill all the water, behead the water, piss in the water, drown Janniefinder in the water I hate it reeeeee
>Exploring >Come across some underground cave system>It just keeps going and going and going >Finally explore all of it >Found 110 relics in that one underground cave system I can't remember what it's called, but it's in the Norgan Snowfields. You'll easily walk out with at least 100 relics if you fully explore it.
>>749611368>defense quest>ogre dropkicks dwayne off a bridge the moment he shows upIf he could die that would have been funny.
just downloaded the gamehavent played since release and i quit like 20h into itwhens the best time to start the dlc?
>can't leave negative ratings on pawns anymoreWhat's the best way to let someone know I think their pawn sucks? Send them back with something like rotten food as a gift?
>>749612957Were you in that one lost rites dungeon before the beholder?
>>749611336>when you're quite finished loafing around we've a duty to attend to
>>749612957The one tiny waterfall as you make your way up the first zig-zag path in the DLC has a pixel of water at its very base you can get brined in, its bullshit. There is even a scrap pile right there so if you approach it from the left you get brined. The other side isn't even up to your knees.
>>749611368>dwayne is helping me fight one of those new giants>gets cartoonishly squished by its tree right before it dies>gets up>”sorry for being a coward”Bro you earned your stripes stop being mean to yourself
>>749613039rotten food and no rating
>>749612758No it's not
>>749613039I guess? Give them wilted flowers or rotten meat. Or collect like 30 rotten meat/food and just send them all of it, kek.
Is warrior fun? I want a big sword and annihilate cunts
>>749612965I had that same experience. Derelict passage or something. For once I was very glad that the dungeon was over.You'll have to go back for the main quest :^)))))
>>749613171It’s very fun but the enemies in the DLC are really melee defense heavy
How many tiers of gear are there anyway? DD1 had 3 if I remember right and I've already found some tier 2 gear despite only recently entering the DLC area so I'm guessing it goes higher.
>Found every obelisk except the Sorcerer oneI'm about to go fucking insane. It must be the last one people find, or it's in a deeper part of the map further in the DLC story. Either that or I just walked right past it, but I've been doing A LOT of exploring. I'm pretty sure I've found all the other obelisks for every other job.
Do you think Arisen has actually improved the game in a meaningful way?
>>7496133095
>>749613330Don't forget that you can see the locations of obelisks on the map
>>749613330i think its near the lake south of the first fimbl you fight
>>749613330The trickster upgraded skill shows them from really far away. Don’t you wanna get up to some japes anon?
>>749613330Sorc was the third one I found
>>749613040Yeah, the skeleton knight bonked the thief first attack after spawning. She said "being near water makes me nervous" right before the encounter too lol, Beholder pool was absolute troll too, I was one down and the rift stone in previous room was damaged and didn't work.Archer dungeon also sucked, a lot of micro managing pawns to stay put, yet they still fell down the second I wasn't looking.>>749613050I think I know exactly the spot. That was my first brine of the DLC .Went for the classic "what if there is a secret behind the waterfall?" and bam, puddle claimed me.
>>749613278Nah, just try to make knockdown really high
>>749613309Apparently, it can go all the way up to tier 5. I've only gotten tier 3 so far. I figured you start getting tier 4 and 5 towards the end of the DLC, or maybe after clearing the DLC main story. I know once I reached level 100, most of the relics that I got were all tier 3. The game will still give you tier 1-2 which is just junk basically at a certain point. I wish it had an auto recycle feature, like you can just set it to automatically sell tier 1-2 equipment, or even tier 3. >>749613427I thought it only showed one the map AFTER you find it. It doesn't just show them all automatically, do they? It doesn't for me. I had to discover them before they were permanently marked on the map. >>749613446I'm aware of the upgraded trickster search ability, but I don't really mess with trickster because it's stupid and lame. I'm not going to play it just for that one skill. I guess if you're playing Warfarer you can use Trickster just for that one skill.
Where do i get high knockdown res armor for guts cosplay
>>7496133095, the true final boss always drop a bunch of these each time you beat it
>>749612547Pawns bring back relics based on how many the player earned while they were with them I believe.
>>749613330dozo
>>749613528I’m trying man but I’m losing the gamble so hard, cashed in 70 relics and keep getting fuck all
>>749613738Ah, thanks. I apparently never went to that side of the map yet, like on the other side of the lake. Not sure why...think I forgot about the pathway over there.
>>749613735I think this is the case.
does anyone have a list of context-sensitive actions? like I read if you dash into a wall/tree while grabbing an enemy it will bash them into it. as an archer I attacked a knocked down enemy with a special animation but I don't remember what button I pressed
Are you telling me I escorted this bitch all this way just so she could become some ugly old bastards cum dump!?
Does Warfarer get an obelisk?
I probably should stop living my fighter/warrior roleplay fantasy and grind rest of the vocations so I can get all the augments. I'm getting bored.
>>749613941__________No________
>>749614042aww
>>749613941>does the lazy hackjob of a vocation get an obeliskgee i dunno what do you think?
>>749613941He gets 9.
ay tips for a new player?
>>749614107Wolves hunt in packs.
>>749614107wolves hunt in packs
>>749613926She's swedish so having sex with foreigners is in her genetics.
>>749614107tis weak to fire
>One of the lost rite dungeons requires you to do a side quest that's locked until the second half of the main storyIncredibly lame.
Post cute pawns ONLY
>>749611561Like 40 fps with drops on graphics mode 60 fps no drops performance mode
>>749614147>>749614159>>749614258.......
>>749614269I teleported and they lined themselves up by height
>>749614361TIS WEAK TO FIRE AND ICE BOTH
>>749614258But what if their kind is weak to fire and ice both?
>>749614107Don't skim on customizing your main pawn. Look up youtube character creator videos if you must. Half the fun of DD is renting out your pawn to other people and borrowing others' since quest/monster/treasure info is shared by them. Your 3rd/4th pawn (the ones you borrow from other people) don't level up so you'll be cycling them out frequently. Stuff doesn't age or spoil in storage.
>>749614410Probably humans then.
>>749614371look at them tulpas
>>749614427>Half the fun of DD is renting out your pawn to other peopleNot really into NTR though...
>his pawns are a harem of women >he doesn't have a few bros to watch his backIshiggy
>>749613926>Entire questline about a girl desperately wishing for BVC>Surprised when she does so after she explicitly tells you that she wants to be physically closer to random men that just happens to be there, and requests that you sneak her out after dark so her dad doesn't find out
>>749597231Same I have to hold my blast because my headphone broke a day before the DLC
>>749614506NTR is peak. The day I discovered those JAVs my dick was bent sideways. I don't self insert though. I just like watching the woman succumbing to her most animalistic desires. BTW video games
>>74961451990% of pawns are women, you have to go out of your way to get a guy on your team.
>>749614506>being a pawn fuckerI sure hope you guys don’t do this.You don’t want to be grow a second face in your chest like Matt Daimon do you?
>>749613926that's her other grandpa
>>749614603I've found some really cool Warrior and Fighter bros.
>>749608156I will make her my wife. I get to be Sovran with no shady shit going around, and her lineage gets to be the most important family in Vermund, just as she wanted. Everybody wins.
This is a cool arena
>>749614603I still see a good mix of male and female and furries in the rift.Still relatively level ~40 after restarting though.I auto brine any pawn with that one snarky male voice because it grates on my nerves though.
Is that aN O R G A N D U C A T
>>749614708I wasn't really into Disa but when you talk with her in the unmoored world and she just bitches you out and states something akin to "Nothing even matters anymore, do whatever you will with me" I felt it. I felt it in my dick.
>>749614269Hello? Yes. This is my pawn and her tummy.
>>749614603I tried making a kitty pawn but I couldn't get it right. He looked like all the other kitties no matter what I did.I guess I'm just racist against kitties.
>>749614584>I just like watching the woman succumbing to her most animalistic desiresYou're a lucky man then because that's probably the most common occurrence on Earth
what's the point of giving gifts to NPCs and building affinity? well, besides shop owners I mean for the discounts
>>749614794And here of all places!
>>749614107A ballistia is a ranged weapon.
>>749614869Did you know you can change the belly button? It's linked to base skin type.
>>749614361I had a master they seemed to change their party on a whim
>>749614898It’s who the dragon obducts.There’s also a cheevo for a bunch of NPCs to high affinity.
>>749614817She's bitchy and controlling because she doesn't have a man that's dicking her down and telling her what to do, it's not surprising she mellows out a bit once her son starts taking charge.
>>749614956>It’s who the dragon obductsthis game is starting to feel like a remake of DD1 rather than a sequel with every passing moment
>>749614260The one inside the thieves hideout? There are ways to parkour in there.
>>749614726is this the final boss?
>>749603335>One mixed bag about base DD2 is that Itsuno has a hard-on for "friction" for banal activities while refusing to add any real teeth to the combatHalf of the base game's quests is spent in one of the two capitals. Basically the game only ask you to go from Melve to Vermundt (can be skipped in ng+), you then have the option to visit the hidden villages then you're supposed to go to Batthal. Once the game ask you to return to the Havre you should have have plenty of ferrystones with you basically you only need to cross the map once. I genuinely wish there was "banal activities" that would've required me to plan some new expeditions across the map.
>>749614869she looks like she makes videos on instagram exclusively for balding men
>>749615017Yikes, you’re telling me all different dragons kidnapped the Dukes, Daemon’s, the DD1 Arisen, and the DD2 Arisens’ love interests? That seems kind of contrived
>raise max affinity for a cute bandit looking girl>save the elves in the unmoored world>Dragon decides I’m gay for the elf princeI SPOKE TO HIM 4 TIMES YOU FUCKER
I was really afraid Norgan was gonna be dank and hideous like BBI, but this has been great so far. Found a few sprawling dungeons, the snowfields fucking suck, and bugaboos make me want to do a kneeling apology to knackers for ever talking shit about them. The variety and density of everything is a blast.
>>749614260google it and click on the reddit link, if you aren't tall enough you're going to need an ability that moves you in the air like the spearhand one
>>749615067LOL
I've really like what i played so far. So much so that I dont want to keep playing because then it'll end. Its a retarded kind of feeling lol.
>>749615134>dank and hideous like BBISo this is the aesthetic sensibility of the skyrim audience
>>749615135Wait what the fuck my tiny boy Arisen is mechanically disadvantaged in climbing?
Why does my pawn look 10 times better in the character creation screen than when I'm actually playing the game?
>>749615134I personally prefer the rape dungeon vibes of BBI. Norgan is kinda basic for the most part.
>>749596490Fuuuuck I felt absolutely ripped off by Dogma 2 and yet I still feel the siren call. Someone tell me it sucks please.
>>749615119dumb rudeus
>>749596590Yeah by a country mile. The base game alone shits all over DD1, DA and DDO. This is easily the best DLC a video game has ever gotten.
>>749596490PROTIP: tell your pawn to "go" when he/she is climbing a giant and he/she will pull a weapon out of the giant's hide: you'll get a relic AND deal massive damage+stagger to the giant.
should I just do the DLC now or wait until I beat the story (I don't want to be overleveled for the main plot)
>>749615184It's objectively dank, especially the sewer-ish areas. I liked BBI, but it's more that I didn't want the exact same thing for the postgame again, especially fighting Executioners and Ogres in narrow paths.
>>749615308It's more of the same, but condensed in a way that doesn't waste your time.I don't recommend it if you didn't like the base game.
norgan ladder status?
>>749604783what's the loot under him?
is there a mod that automatically equips the weapon type of the skill you try to use with warfarer?
>>749610015thank you anonit's just that i've played some rpgs where they give you more exp and money on harder modes and by mid to late game they become actually easier, so i wasn't so sure about starting on hard right awayi can start with normal then switch like you said though, unless there's a reward for beating it on hard mode all the way through
>>749615398There’s a couple new upgrade systems in NG+ so if you want to what you can do is do all the trial dungeons while ignoring the DLC and then do Norgan in NG+, that’s what I did anyway
Do you guys want a Mage or Archer pawn?
>>749615413I mean it's not like that's the only possible architecture styleDD's approach to monsters I think could work really well in a "dungeon ecology" type setting, Itsuno could make a kickass dungeon meshi game
>>749615398Play story until you get Godsbane sword, then start some DLC dungeons(they get hard) + Expansion itself
>>749615461Multiple armor sets iirc one is for mages and one for thief types
>>749615458My pawn helpfully pointed out a ladder that was inside of a tall tower with a locked door at the base and stairs leading down inside (so you clearly gain access to the tower from a cave or what have you elsewhere). Thanks.
I would guess most people roll a Mage pawn so they can have a pocket healer. I always pick Archers.
>>749596490Why doesn't anyone hire mage pawns? No one hires mine...
>>749615572Archers. Slut mages are extremely common
>>749615572I used to love archer pawns for their guaranteed stagger with their poison arrows, but since that doesn't seem to be a case against Norgan enemies, give me mage so I don't fucking burn through ten thousand curatives in a single afternoon.
>>749596490I really like the graphics, especially the lighting and weather effects and color pallete, they look realistic af, cloudy overcast sky in game feels more real than irl
>>749615682Probably because of what I said >>749615636
>>749615461https://game8.co/games/Dragons-Dogma-2/archives/630590
>>749615067No, that's the Dark Arisen 2, the true final boss is Baphomet renamed Satanachia
>>749615538>There’s a couple new upgrade systems in NG+what kind of upgrade systems? I'm still pretty early in the story progression. I heard NG+ was kind of shit but did they make it worthwhile with the updates?
>>749615785You can halve the stamina cost of one of your skills and improve the stat gain per level of one of your vocations for both you and your pawn. And pay wyrm crystals for increased stamina regen for a day
You guys are making me want to buy this game. Is $50 for the base game and Arisen worth it?
>>749614427theres such an abundance of hideous pawnsfat magessuper smal tiny warriors with hideous faces
>>749615991Play dragon's dogma 1 first it's better and dd2 plays with your expectations of the first and has neat callbacks to it.
how many times does the ring transform?
>>749616003I've havent seen any of them once I went into lvl100+ range and picked norgan travelled pawns
>>749609638Apparently it's still being worked on. Gotta do stuff like making sure the tier 3 skills still work alongside Dullahan's buffs I'd assume. There'd be no point to some of the changes if the new skills just completely ignore them.I'm hoping for a release soon too because I've gotten too used to Fighter's quicker Tusk Toss and Shield Pummel being a core skill.
What do people play as the most in DD2? Is it safe to assume it's the "action" vocations such as thief, archer, mystic archer, fighter, warrior, etc.? I've been playing as a mage for a good 10 hours or so now and shit's boring as fuck. The most fun I've had is making stuff fly upwards with Frigor and then hurling ice boulders at them.>>749616003To be fair the game's really obtuse with character creation. At first it made me think "you either start from scratch or choose one of these premades" but what the game doesn't tell you is you can actually customize the premades as well. Apparently there's also an official external character creator you can use to transfer over appearance data but most won't bother with that either.
>>749615991It’s good but really wait for those usual sales Capcom has that’ll make it 80% off
>>749615991I bought it a month ago when they fixed the performance issues. I don't regret it but the base game does get super boring after a while. I put 60 hours into the base game and half of that was a boring slog. The DLC so far is more fun, mainly because it's harder (which the base game isnt) and the content is much more condensed.50€ was a fine price imho.
>>749616032I like that you assumed (correctly) I haven't played the first. Are you implying if I played the original I would enjoyed it so much that I would already own DD2?
Are there any points of no return in the main story? I heard about Feast of Deception. As long as I stop before that I shouldn't lose out on anything, right?
>>749616138Rings can transform?
>>749616237nta but I think you'll enjoy DD2 better if you didn't play the first game(s). Everything will be new to you.
>>749616251The coronation and when it asks you to go to moonglint tower both change the world state
>>749616251There's a ton of missable shit in this game, you basically have to look up a guide if you actually want to 100% the game.
>>749596490Just started over again on hard mode. How deep do i need to go into the main game before i can conceivably handle things in the dlc areas?
>random-ass person approaches me in the middle of nowhere, wants me to escort them but hands me a fullscreen note saying my efforts might not be rewarded>was busy as the moment so said no>instantly regret it, talk to them again, they'll just cycle through their regular pawn dialogueI just bricked my save didn't I
>enter dlc>hard mode>level 70>only me (fighter) and my main pawn (mage)yep, its gaming time
>>749616440Pretty much right before the unmoored world, and the starting zones of the DLC are still harder than that so you'll struggle until you start getting some DLC gear.
Is there no Grand Flagration/Levin in DA2?
>>749616450Don't worry about it, try again in NG+
>>749616502Exactly what I did and I decided to hire 2 extras after my first black dog encounter.
>>749616252Just the one you buy for a norgan ducat
breh…the way the pawn yells “To the balista!” during that segment of the main quest had me cracking up.
>>749616519What was that about anyways? Is there really no way to encounter her again after you've said no?
>>749616138
Where do I get rank 4 relics? None of these cunts are dropping them
>>749616749these npcs interactions are random and although the chances of encountering her for an escort quest isnt zero, you most likely wont see it again given the number of existing npcs.
>>749616792how do these rings get upgraded?
>>749616862Fug. I declined because I thought it was DLC/high level-related stuff.
>>749616853havent seen one yet but i assume they drop late into the DLC and probably at night or some special bosses
What monster is this? I don't remember it in the DLC at all, is it from base game?
>>749616853Get to the further north area with Eir.
>>749616917Kill the last boss of the DLC.
>get mugged by snow ogre>pursue back to its den and mug it backFun!Not so fun was a big, invincible ghost wolf.
>>749617020These show up in the DLC post game.
>>749596590I'm having a blast
>>749616926search for her in the npc glossary and find out where she stays. you can still give her gifts and carry her like a princess.
why is Fighter so much more fun than every other Vocation?
Should I get this on Shitch 2 or PissStation5?
>>749617182for me it's warfarer with 4 fighter skills and 2 archer skills
>>749617050and wut does this rang do? been wearinf it since I got my first norgan ducat.
>>749611894ES IS ROHOT ELFRIEDE ELFRIEDE ELFRIEDE
PUSHED BY THE WINDPISSED IN THE HEART
>>749617331Increases drop rates of the final boss if you farm it repeatedly so you can get top tier items without wasting too much time
How do you damage that fucking ghost wolf? Who the hell thought radagon's mutt was a good boss?!
>>749617323both. snitch2 is cool cause you can blast on the go. that is if you ever leave your house. I sure dont.
>>749617385thnks guess I’ll remove it for now then.
>>749616749sometimes I like to use those random escorts as a 5th pawn
Is a warrior/archer split a good idea for warfarer?
Getting missable anxiety here
how do I unlock the doors in the proving grounds?
I started playing this and not sure how to feel about it.It's been 6 hours and I swear I've only seen 3 common enemy types between goblins, wolves and harpies. Oh and one cave had the lizard people I guess. Enemy diversity is the worst I've ever seen, somehow even worse than BotW.Everything feels slow, which is something I enjoy. Most games nowadays are way too fast paced, this one feels more tactical.Between the lack of enemy diversity and the lack of meaningful rewards, I don't feel much of an incentive to explore and get stuff done. Sometimes I just wish I was playing TW3 or Skyrim instead.
>new proficiency discoveredbrother ........
>>749617401kneel in front of your mage and hope they cast anodyne, high empryean or have holy bolt for him
>>749617602Except TW3 and Skyrim have piss poor combat
>>749617372Anon are you okay
>>749617328>no riotus furyhow do you live without it?
They fucked up magick archerThe class fucking sucks now
>>749617648I AM VERY OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. (it's a german children's song about traffic safety)
>>749617631>me playing fighter+thief duoShieeet
>>749617726Dullahan will fix it when Nick eventually fixes the mod
>>749617020DraugI don't know why they called a bird that. Didn't they play Skyrim?
>>749617726Most of the vocations got hit with "Sorry you were having too much fun" nerfs in DD2 so that the pawn system could be shilled harder
>>749617726>nowIt was always the boring OP pick for homosexuals
>>749617715relic sword upgrading either the new obelisk spin move or the vanilla spin move, it does a lot more damage>>749617813if you have the spellbooks you can cast them without a mage, but it will be a dps race and the dog is pretty tanky
>>749617401Holy damage, anodyne works too.
new bread?
>>749617631>Help!>Okay Master, I will heal you!Easy.
>>749617813Start buying and using magic books, enemies are way too varied in expansion to always have an answer for everything. Personally having 5+ silence books in inventory is a must.
>>749617182Versatile without being op. Encourages engaging with most combat mechanics.
>>749617401Using an anodyne book while it does the sweeping breath attack is a method any build can use. It doesn't matter when you hit it, but the breath attack is an easy and safe window to do it.
this fucking npc wants me to give him my god damn unique one of a kind frostbite immunity ring for sum god damn RC? fuck off
>>749618134I always had/have a magic sword for backup aganist ghosts/slimes but I don't think there was any enemy that was immune to all but one type of damage in the base game
>>749618298golems are immune to anything that doesn't have a physical component to the damage
After roughly 15 hrs into the DLC i realized that you can pull out 3 ancient lv3 weapons out of the Norgan giants back and do a good chunk of dmg to this mf.
>>749618286Imagine if you could forge a fake for him...
>>749616237Pretty much. Dd1 came out of nowhere as a funny little jank game people wrote off initially but the more they played it, the more addicted they got. Soon everyone was calling it "the greatest 7/10 ever made" and yearning for it to get the budget it needed.Dd2 came out and was a little bit disappointing but it's more of what people craved from dd1 but prettier and lacking in some areas. The dlc is pretty good so far though.
How come I can't cook fish? How come I can't add additional ingredients to the meat for more bonuses?
>>749618423You can also have your pawn do that
What's a good main pawn that's not mage/sorc? Bored of doing that for the last 10 years
no pawn romance, no buy
>>749617182Itsuno's personal favorite class so it gets sucked off.He removed mystic knight for being fighter but better.
>>749618529>he doesn't know
>>749618445I tried that, the ring doesn't show up in the list. In fact no equipment shows up in his list to forge.
>>749614604This Anti-Pawn Love propaganda has to stop. Daimon became Daimon because he also didn't want to kill his mom, whom his Main Pawn looks exactly like.
>>749618445I forgot about doing that and eventually Aymond told me he's dropped the offer. I don't want RC from him anyways, I got enough.
>>749618448DD2 on launch felt like the most blatantly unfinished game I’ve played in recent memory.I don’t know if Capcom pushed it out early to get more warm bodies working on Wilds or if Itsuno just mismanaged the project like a motherfucker, but it was what it was.
>>749618470They'd need to rerecord cooking for every food combination.
>>749618579Yeah, but imagine if you could.You'd find his frozen body in the middle of nowhere, taken out by a snowstorm.
>>749614107Goblins are weak to ice and fire both.Even in numbers, a weakling is a weakling still.
Fuck fighters.Every other class get's one weapon except warfarer. Fighter get's two. That's double dipping in upgraded skills through the new equipment. FUCK FIGHTERS.
>>749618481My Pawn thaught me that in the first place.
>>749618636Capcom 100% crippled it for Wilds.Then came crawling back when Wilds failed to keep players.
Is there a better lantern drop like in the first hame?
>>749618662he'll be fine, he has the fire birb plume I got him for cold resist
>>749614107Theres always aught to be found.
>>749618669main character vocation, all others are pawn vocation, a cheat or a meme
>>749618669Yeah, they should break down Fighter into just "Swordsman" and make a new vocation that only uses shields called "Captain America"
>>749618515Depends on your class. Usually the optimal choices are sorc/thief if you are pulling aggro and fighter if you want your pawns to pull aggro. If you want a non-standard option, you could use an archer with special arrows.
>>749618753>aughtthe what
How is the new Meister skill for Sorcerer? I just slapped it onto my Pawn.
>>749618636It was clearly rushed. Vermund is actually a well designed area when it comes to story, enemy variety and quests. The problems with the game start when you enter battahl and there is almoost nothing new and everything about the story and quests feels rushed, unless the quest in question is heavily tied to Vermund.
>>749618831opposite of naught
>>749618831
I only play custom modded classes, as they're the only ones untainted by Shitsuna
All the warrior EX skills feel so damn good to use that I want them all on a weapon but I also want swift strike 2 or another good passive. I'll probably drop the lunge EX skill because it is limited use on bosses but damn does it feel good to impale and flip throw regular enemies.
>>749618515Archer Pawn goes with everything.Bring a sniper squad of three Archers while you provide magical fire support.
>>749614107darkness holds many dangers
>saw somebody in one of these threads mention that there's a new everfall>beat goatgod>that's literally the end of the gamelmfao, is this really it? they expect you to just spam ruin-night and goatgod back to back to back to level up that shitty ring so you have a CHANCE to get the top tier equipment? and then fucking do WHAT with it? my god what an insane let down. norgan was way more fun to progress through than the base game. false ending was neat, in typical capcom fashion. I was looking forward to an actually meaty endgame/postgame but it just fucking abruptly ends with just one boring damage sponge of a boss. part of me wants to just download a mod to spawn in the top tier equipment with the affixes that I want so I can skip capcoms typical RNG bullshit mechanic that they inject into EVERY game they make to pad playtimes, but there's not even any point to doing that because there's nothing to even use it on.
I'm not having fun with the Lost Rites
>>749597275>sneak missionsI'm genuinely impressed they made the base game missions so shitty
Why does this game give me such Middle Earth vibes?
I've been playing base game for 10 hours and it has become painfully boring. Does this get good somehow? I don't see much incentive to keep on playing, the core mechanics and gameplay loop are very repetitive and everytime I come out of town there is a swarm of goblins or lizards every 10 meters it's incredibly dull
>>749600253My fighter constantly hugs lesser demons. Their scripting clearly breaks in these fights
>>749619712>lead director of the franchise has expressly said that he used the LOTR movies as direct influences>"bruh anybody else think this game feels like lord of the rings? no cap frfr"
>>749619712no other game does "adventuring with your bros" rightnot even the LoTR games do it right
>>749619729It’s ok to not like comfy adventure kino fare thee well tastelet seek lands of ball and gun
>>749618672Arisen...
>>749619836So now we're going to pretend goblins and lizards every 5 meters is good game design and actually "comfy adventure kino"
>>749618669
>>749619889yes? it's an action game built around combatif you don't like fighting things, then don't play it
>>749619889Are they holding you hostage? Just ignore them.
>>749614107Avoid beorcan people
>>749619958>pretends to be dumbIt's ok to admit some parts are bad and some are good.
>no everfall>no ur-dragon>gear has hard breakpoints so no real reason to even farm for anything better because gear progression is extremely railroaded>above point makes obelisk rituals completely meaningless>above point makes lost rites almost completely meaningless, save for the minor stat increases the upgraded obelisks give>final boss is just another version of the demons that you have to fight over and over and over AND OVER againwho could have guessed that the dlc would be a big disapointment
>>749619889If you’re bored put it down I’m not gonna debate you bro you just got bad taste
>>749615471Having to waste an ability slot just to weapon switch is a pain
>>749620007>beorciggers>peopleEven beastren are less subhuman than them.
>>749618882It's broken on any boss that can be frozen
>>749603565This post outs you as a brown person lol
>>749616792I've killed the bastard 40 times and I'm still on Glut. What a fucking grind.
>>749617090I was very confused the first time one showed up in the middle of a hailstorm and grabbed me and disappeared. I'd already been to its den and only got my shit back hours later after I knew about the mechanic and after I remembered.
>>749620065>no point in farming everfall, all the loot is preset>no point in farming ur-dragon, all the loot has static stats with no variance and is just another version of Grigori that you fight over and over AND OVER again>no point in farming BBI relics, its all the same stats with no variance>no point in farming Daimon2.0, he has no new gear and is just another version of himself that you fight over and over AND OVER againwho would have guessed that endgame DD1 and BBI was a disappointment?
>>749619712it's also set in wales
>>749603335>the game would've been met with resounding 9's and 10's across the board It broadly was. The mixed-leaning-positive reception you describe was amongst players.
