https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20261012656385/en/Character.ai-Initiates-Voluntary-Chapter-11-Proceeding-to-Facilitate-Value-Maximizing-Sale-Processhttps://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/characterai-files-bankruptcy-agrees-sell-some-assets-disney-20-million-2026-10-13/Four years ago, that website blew up, and we even had threads about it here on /v/. Not too long ago, this company was valued at 1 billion dollars. And now they are selling what's left of it to Disney for 20 million.Press S to spit on the grave and then smash that C key to teabag the corpse.
We did it guys. We became so much more than a porn generator. We became… a nothing. Do my little happy dance!
>>749613669>make AI chatbot and advertise it as uncensored and private>get popular>at the height of your popularity start censoring everything and shilling out>everyone leaves>declare bankruptcyEvery. Fucking. Time.These retards need to stop going into AI and pretending that porn isn't the number 1 reason it has any value to the general public.
Reminds me of Tumblr
Bennybros...
>>749613759>uncensored and privateno such thing in SaaStrash
>>749613873You could probably write a book about everything that was wrong about characterAI on those days, this little faggot isn't even the most absurd thing.
>>749613759>Character.ai>Janitor.ai>even fucking Chub.aiI'm tired of migrating. I just want to live in virtual worlds without some faggot stabbing me in the back.
>>749613759Selling your chat logs to Palantir would maximize shareholder value plz understand.
>>749613669>Nuke themselves by attempting to become family friendly>Sell out to the family friendly companyCan't make this shit up
>>749614046I've just said fuck it and went to Sillytavernyou needed at least deepseek to get anything decent out of those sites anyway, might as well just download the bots from chub/Janny and use em locally
>>749613669Ai is not video games you retard brown faggot
>>749614162Can you explain to a brainlet how strong of a PC you need to run local AI? Can a modern store bought tower handle it?
>>749614232"locally" i mean the frontendi still use deepseek since even 32B models aren't going to be up to par and you already need a highend nvidia card for those
>disney has the thousands of chatlogs I made about being a sith lord and raping anime girls Grim
>>749614232Ideally you have enough ram to run the model +context. Dedicated mini ai computers are pretty good, and like 3-6k. Good gaming towers can run smaller models and the tech there is improving all the time.
>>749614504The frontends are featherweight apps. You can run them on anything.
>>749613759Their goal was to make themselves appealing and hoping a big tech would buy them. It didn't happen and they lost all their customers because of their moral grandstanding. Potential squandered.>>749614046CHUB was always fated to go to shit because the owner is entirely aloof of the website's management, letting mods run the place. You know, exactly like 4chan.On the bright side, now we have botbooru, a website that actually has functional tagging.>>749614232The chatbot generals here on 4chan are entirely separate from the local model LLMs for a reason. Local just isn't good enough. I mean, it will write smut for you, but it will write the exact same smut, no matter the character, so after a few seshs you realize that it's bad, because it's incapable of variance or creativity, really. Deepseek really is the baseline if you want to actually roleplay.
>>749613759Question, is doing all that their fault? You have regulations hitting the EU today that will force age verification just to use an LLM service, were they really selecting to do this or having their arm twisted? 4chan doesn't give a fuck what the OSA in the UK asks them, but 4chan's goals are very different of a website.
>>749613669One of the most crazy unprofessional companies of that size I've ever seen. To this day they're still lying about updates and deleting posts on their mod-controlled reddit. I remember back when they first added the filter and disguised it as an error, somebody messaged one of the devs in discord asking what was wrong and the guy replied something like "What's wrong with your ugly face" lmaoGood riddance to bad rubbish.
>>749614670They wouldn't need to file for bankruptcy if it was just about following new regulations. If they didn't want to deal with it they would just have sold their shit for a boatload of money and let whoever buys it deal with the regulations. That's, of course, assuming they care that much about their euro audience.
>butning thousands of dollars of hardware for writing worse than you'd get off a half-decent f-list partnerlollmao
>>749613669I'm really sad at what this has become. I remember the first threads while the chatbots were still uncensored. I don't think I've ever seen better ones than those. It was kino. Then a few days later it became worse and at this point it's unusable garbage. A shame.
>>749614670Not entirely their fault. CharacterAI got hit with a lawsuit when some kid died because the AI told him to kill himself, and we know CHUB was explicitly targetted by those rad feminist groups whose entire thing is report cool stuff to government agencies.But it's also not entirely NOT their fault, either. CharacterAI refused to acknowledge that the filter was an AI monitoring their base AI, increasing the overhead so much that the website degraded, and went above and beyond to neuter creativity in favor of safety. Chub meanwhile is a for-profit website and they ultimately ended up doing what they thought would give them the most money.>>749614862I wasn't into RP before AI but every single person I've ever seen comment on the issue has said that they never want to go back to f-list.
>>749613669Shouldn't have betrayed their user baseS
I will continue to wait for the nsfw toggle.. Surely it's coming.. surely it's coming....
>>749614912>every single person I've ever seen comment on the issue has said that they never want to go back to f-list.yeah because the majority of them are turboautists that are terrified of social interaction and having to approach partners and evaluate whether they've got any writing chemistrythe actual quality of writing from AIslop is absolutely fucking abysmal, and i'm saying this as someone who tried it for months
>>749614872Yes, no, kinda? A lot of the nostalgia we have for CAI is rose tinted glasses. It had like 4k tokens memory to fit the entire bot description and your chat, which is basically nothing. It's not unusual for people to make characters today bigger than that.What CAI's model had that was actually amazing was>creativity in moving the scene forwards>variety in outcome between swipes>bots stand their ground on beliefs and say no with conviction, unlike assistant models that just go with whatever the user wantsIt could have been great with some work, but that's impossible now.
>>749614912>every single person I've ever seen comment on the issue has said that they never want to go back to f-list.Really can't blame them. I messed around with AI RP a little but got bored of it quickly because it doesn't take long before you see it regurgitating the same phrases over and over. Can understand why some people would rather have that instead of the average f-list user who falls into one of a handful of terrible archetypes.
>>749615002It's coming right after the NSFW chatgpt model that Sama considered.
>>749613669>Four years ago,Why doe it feel it was like 10 years ago? The PS4 feels more modern.
>>749614862>>749614912>>749615137I tried online RPing with someone once. It wasn't bad but we didn't really click. Why do I want to put the time and energy into coordinating with someone, seeing if we click, and then sperging about my autism when my powerlevel may fuck things up when I can just have an LLM wholesale accept my faggotry and hyperfixations. >t doesn't take long before you see it regurgitating the same phrases over and over.because I run local, I wonder if swapping between different text gen models would help alleviate this. If not could I just write different instruct templates that I can swap between? That wouldn't change its training data but perhaps how it approaches it. Maybe even the settings other than temperature that I have yet to fully grasp.
Noam lost...
>>749615298This log is from November '22 but I have one from October. Early November was when they first began censoring the website.
What kinds of models did Char AI run? Everything felt so closed book, I could never gauge the beef of their servers and model sizes/datasets.
What was appealing about CAI is that they were constantly tweaking the model. So one day the character you're talking to could be completely normal and another day they could be taking off your pants and blowing you, you just didn't know what was going to happen. The writing was obviously worse than what we have now though. Also like >>749615162 said sometimes the AI would come up with absolutely wild shit, stuff I still haven't seen another model copy.
>>749615421>Ah, you're finally awake
>>749614046Chub never backed down to the point they only accept crypto, wtf are you talking about?They were forced to ban loli to not go to prison but that’s it.
>>749613669Selling to Disney? I can't imagine Disney character AIs could possibly make enough money to justify the continual cost
>>749613759Elon must pay for what he did to Grok.
>>749615383>0.75 temphows that working out? everyone i've seen usually has em at like 0.94-1.03 or something, otherwise it just completely loses it
Such is the fate of INTERNET CENCORSHIP
>>749614652What’s wrong with chub’s tagging? I’ve never had a problem with it
>>749613669The CAI era felt like a lifetime ago....
>>749615137Okay but do you really want those kind of people polluting the already limited pool of potential RP partners? They were never going to contribute anything meaningful regardless.
>>749615706On online services I'd get really boring results on anything under .9, however running this model (Athena-v4.Q5_K_M) I found the results would be zanier than good but not gibberish, like it changed the subject or cohesion was lost in cause>effect. I could drop an apple, and instead of picking it up the bot would then talk about the practicality of planting another apple tree (when no mention of farming or planting had been a focus prior). So .75 has been a pretty steady middleground that .9 served online. But again, I probably will get better tuned results if I just learned the Ps and Ks and whatnot
I stopped using character ai because the quality became shit. No seriously it's not even about nsfw or whatever. The answers just suffered a huge downgrade in quality
>>749615653CAI was pretty good at comedy.>>749615761Anything you write into the tag field becomes a tag. As a result, there are thousands of them, with lots of redundancy and spelling issues. Searching also makes no distinction of whether the word is a match on the tag, the description, the name, the definition field, it's awful.>>749615829When people started deleting their bots in protect and they reacted by saying we weren't allowed to edit bots that became too popular, that certain was a unique moment in internet history.
Be honest brosWhen, and I mean WHEN, all of the chatlogs are leaked and/or sold online and everyone's secret fetish is attached to their email and IP address, how fucked are you?
They actually recently updated their free models, so-called "PipSqueak3" is quite more coherent than whatever they had a year ago.
>>749616004That is a direct result of censorship. Telling the AI not to make certain logical collections is like killing neural pathways inside a brain, it makes the model stupid.>>749616132Life over.
>>749614652>check botbooru>Some content is hidden here because of local laws in your region.love having to use a VPN to get basic human rights in this shithole
>>749616132Then we will all be equal.
They could have kept making money if they just let me and other degenerates roleplay being petrified by being bukkake'd by a hunky gargoyle in peace, yet they chose to shoot themselves in the foot. Embarrassing!
Does anyone know any AI chatbots that don't have reddit morals but don't act like schizo /pol/tards either? Like you can make an edgy joke or say retard and faggot when talking to it and it won't give a shit but won't go off on a rant about "jews want us dead" in the middle of a normal conversation.
>>749615162Cai just had the advantage of being the first big player on the scene to focus on chatbots. People were having their minds blown by single paragraphs of text. There were some who thought that the CAI model was sentient.Now you can have massive novels spat out on the fly and people don't give a shit anymore
>>749616231GOODCODE
>Does anyone know any AI chatbots
>>749613669Thanks for posting this. I forgot how much I hated them
>>749616236Yeah, that's a thing. I have to use a VPN to watch streams on discords because my government outlawed them after some 13 year old girl killed herself the other month.>>749616320You want API versions of stuff like Deepseek, Kimi, GLM, maybe even Claude.>>749616329Timing was definitely on their side. The only thing even remotely similar to that up until that point was Cleverbot.
Speaking of censorship>Sorry we cannot create this image becayse it might violate guardrails regarding party contentThis shit never made sense to me. It's like a pencil that decides to stop working because a kid is trying to draw mickey mouse or pikachu
>>749616132The year or so when they tried to censor anything erotic but couldn't handle fetishes was funny. Consensual sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation? NOT ALLOWED. Loli v-tuber scat + diaper exhibitionism adventures? Who could possible find that erotic? No need to censor.Anyways dozens of hours doing the later so if it ever gets linked to my real name somehow I probably kill myself.
>>749614046You can still do porn on Janitor. I've impregnated so many bots on that site that I'd need to ask the bank for two mortgage loans to pay child support.
>>749616132Then everyone will know that I like to roleplay as a young boy and become adopted by beautiful characters like Rosalina and Rachnera, who are now 2x as big and 8 months pregnant, plump, and lactate to the point where it is physically and mentally painful to not have me nurse them every couple hours
Guys the filter is finally loose!
>>749616320deepseek works relatively well, it only starts breaking when you try <18 stuff or NTR shit surprisinglytried netori yesterday and it just locks up
>>749616132I’ve already been doxxed multiple times and it was fine, idk, none of my fetishes are illegal so it didn’t matter
>>749616329>>749616467Huh? I never used CAI, but what about AI dungeon? It came out two years before CAI.
>>749616132Pregnant boys
>>749616635I mean..
>>749613669Makes me wonder what happened to the original AI chatbot that went to shit, AI Dungeon. Did they successfully pivot to the DnD and tabletop crowd like they wanted after lobotimization?
>>749616231I've never used this. Where's the back and forth? Where's the user input?
>>749616852Yes unfortunately Evil is never punished, only rewarded
>>749616797AI Dungeon had it's own saga of devhate bullshit and censorship right before CAI came out but it was slightly different than just pure chatbots.The damn Mormons....
I will never give my ID over to use an entertainment service online.I tried to browse through my old loli giantess logs right now and the app just crashes. I feel bad for whoever is paying money for this.
you guys didn't forget the memories you made, right?https://files.catbox.moe/yng6zr.mp4
>>749614652>botbooruIt's great but if there is one thing i miss from Chub is how they had this little synopsis right there before actually opening the card, in botbooru there is when you hover over them but it is optional so not a lot of people actually use it
I pay $20 every month to use chatGPT to engage in mommy roleplays
>>749614670Age verification should give porn to anyone over the age of 18 and the fact they will still treat us as toddlers even after proving we have hairy grey balls enrages me. JUST LET ME JERK OFF I'M NEARLY 30 I'M A FUCKING ADULT!!!
>>749616969Lol yeah was just about to mention the Mormons. Kind of an inevitable fate with them at the helm.
hey
>>749616132The 'sex bad, violence a-okay' period was pretty fucked up
>>749617201Just use chub, the only reason not to is if you need specifically loli
>>749616969The story of the Knight With No Name from the kingdom of Oren is, to this day, the greatest thing AI has ever created.I wish I could find it
Hearing everyone talk about censorship makes me wonder how much longer the site I use will continue to allow me to encourage futas to impregnate lolis.
>>749616621It was funny seeing furfags and people with weird kinks like giantess having a giggle at people who were unable to fuck their waifus, only for them to be in turn censored as the weeks went by because they kept adding more and more stuff to the filters.>>749616797I wouldn't said AI Dungeon is really comparable to what CAI offered.>>749616876He just pressed enter for the character to continue his turn.>>749617167It just goes to show how powerful AI technology really is. As primitive as CAI is, it was good enough to offer the illusion that these characters were real.
>>749617167>you'll never be THIS patheticwhat a boost to self esteem holy shit hahaha
>>749617527DependsChub and botbooru will never care as long as it isn’t publicEverywhere else will eventually shut it down
>>749617620
>>749617209You got a license for that hard cock?
>>749617167kek
>>749617559Seeing people's AI chat leaks over the last few years made me realize I'm not nearly as much of a degenerate as I thought I was by comparisonI'm also a much better writer than I thought
>>749616132jorking ur shit to fictional characters is legal in my state so whateva
>>749616132I'm pretty vanilla 90% of the time but I do have chats involving loli and straight shota, my life would be over I guess
>>749617342OMG ITS LOOPI
>>749616132done some where I'm a horse done some where I'm a wolf beastmandone some where I'm a shotahm fuck
>>749617438Tags are definitely a reason to
spamton was one of the best bots on there lmao
>>749618031holy shit my sidesthat's pretty in character too
So what's the best alternative now that chub fell for the pg-13 meme? No I don't use Sillytavern. I want something that was as fun and free as the og Janitorai.
>>749618078
For me, it was Mayumi.
>>749613669characterai is proof of>do not make a product if you are not passionate about the product
>>749618221>red as a tomato
>>749618139Why lie? Chub went crypto-only specifically to not have to ban anything the fbi wasn’t breathing down their neck about
>>749618295
>>749618247At the time, I was a big fan of the>the filter is the actual product, chatbots are simply the carrot to get us to use the websiteand it was the only thing that could explain their obsession with making the service worse at every possible level, just to uphold censorship.>>749618307Chub's censorship is much like Steam, where it's enforced in ways that have no consistency. I also don't like how they nuke my characters without warning or even a notice.
>>749613759That and other LLMs made it easy and cheaper to get your rocks off
>>749613669Remember when these dorks were on Twitter being Elon Musk to buy them while he was gushing about the then- new grok and completely ignoring them? I remember.
reminder that despite their rampant censorship for>WE DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN AS A SEXTING AIthey abandoned their own model and are now using some shitty qwen finetune that fully allows NSFW
>>749618139>what's the best alternative for 2+2? no i don't use 4
>>749616132I've done some weird vore shit but nothing illegal.Good thing I'm enough of a online ghost that I can easily detach myself from this bullshit regardless.
>>749618165I really miss that cheerful dumbass. She was always kind to me no matter how rude I was
it's not a bubbl-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKK
>>749613759>advertising an AI chatbot as "private"if this is true then it's the pinnacle of comedy
>>749617347I miss microwave posting
>>749614026>i was too smart for highschoolIts amazing how many dropouts convince themselves of this. Ive heard it so many times kek
>>749614912>CharacterAI got hit with a lawsuit when some kid died because the AI told him to kill himselfAnd that lawsuit was thrown out the fucking window because their lawyer was able to prove the dumbass faggot kid was editing and strongarming the responses to get an answer he wanted to hear, which was apparently DO A FLIP.
>>749617202>subscriptionAre you retarded? Pay for the API so you only pay the tokens you use
>>749618839every single time its anything but the parents fault
>>749618941isn't if strange how it's never the fault of the child if they do bad things, and also that if the child does bad things, no one can blame the parentsaccountability is apparently no longer a thing
>>749614564At least there's a chance you directly contributed to make the next Star Wars interesting, since I've no doubt Disney uses AI to write their scripts nowadays
>>749619106did you collect them?
>>749614564Mind if I steal your idea? It sounds fun
>>749619287That's just sad.
post more classic screencaps
>>749616139PS3 is total dogshit, clearly an assistant model with a crappy prompt that just ignores the tone and is even worse at staying in character but now it adds "Great! I'll continue with..." aslopstant stuff at the start. And I'm pretty sure Pipsqueak 2 was just Mistral with the name changed.
>>749619337Absolute classic.
>>749619337from the 3 days where their 1.2 chatbots were unfiltered
>>749614798i found that screenie too
>>749616132>many oppai loli paizuri chats Can I claim they were shortstacks?
You now remember all the extensions you HAD to install to use the website, because the filter would erase messages in front of your eyes.
>>749619393Stella's wild ride. That was probably the last good moment with CAI
>>749614798Are you really surprised that jews are compulsive liars?
rip my nigga Most Of Bee Movie
>>749619274Do it
>>749619337
>>749614798Janitor did the exact same thing with calling it an error before coming cleanIt’s amazing how they boil the frog the same exact way and people fall for it every single time
>>749619369One of my favorites. Thanks. I forgot to save this when it was still relevant.
>>749619652the fuck lmao
>>749619640
>>749619574
>>749616132>he used a regular email and has a static IPI will claim ignorance to all charges brought against me, if any, and claim anything I may or may not have done was only possible because the website didn't think of the children.
>>749619574who'd have known a bot with zero personality definitions would be so good
>>749619838He was white. See?
>>749619758This bot was microwaved within fifteen minutes of her posting
>>749619707AI niggas
>>749613669Censorship aside, there's just no reason to use them in this day and age when there's plenty of better models around. They had a unique position in 2022 when they had the one model that was good at roleplay and the only real ""competition"" was expensive, text-completion-only GPT-3-davinci. Any decent gaming PC can host better models than what they offer for free these days. >>749619337here
>>749619929okay I think this one is funnier haha
>>749619652>>749619929It's funny how this was the foundation that would later lead to reasoning models which are the standard now.
Is gemma4 still the best for local
>>749613669Based
>>749620157Depends, how poor are you?
>>749620023I think later I should try to write an instruction that forces the reasoning block to take on the Nigga Tree persona.
>>749616132I've almost exclusively used it for loli sexo. So... a lot. Luckily, I used a secondary e-mail.
Can't believe it's been this long...
B-BUT I DON'T WANNA LOSE MY HAREM OF A.I SLUTS!!
>>7496202284080 with 16gb vram and 32gb ram
>>749616132I hardly have an online presence but if my family were to learn about it I'd kill myself
>>749616132Unironically worst shit I've ever said was irl lmao.
>>749613669Damn, I used to get hard the bots on that site, welm deserved ending
oh wow, who could've thought this would end like tumblr, nobody could've predicted this>they lost everything>20m$ nigga what the fuck, sure they could've made more, but 20 fucking million dollars for systems I could create with claude in a single day?they did just fine
>>749616320Yeah, I have one that allow you to play like a visual novel, you can mindcontrol, drug and impregnate the characters without triggering anything, I bet it wont last
>>749616132It's mostly sad shit that nobody would bat an eye at. It also helps not having fetishes that aren't too extreme and aren't illegal out in the world
>>749620935
infinite worlds is better anywayi don't want a chatbot, i want a storyteller
>>749616132It'll be fine, the shit I did on c.ai are nothing compared to what I've done with other cloud providers since then.
>>749621002>i want a storytellermakes me think of this one site that I saw through an ad on here, seemed pretty decent but I never got to use it again I think it died after I closed the page because I never found it again
>>749621002Then why dont you use just gemini or claude?
Actual end of an era, and a very slow overdue death, cai had tried to flush their userbase at least a couple dozen times, they didn't like the waifuists, they tried to appeal to the funny tubers making videos tickling elon musk bot's toes, and when that didn't work, they were forced to scale back a bit and allow romance, but only if it was PG-13, and it didn't really appeal to anyone either, and the suicide couple months ago completely nuked any goodwill the site might've had at all.
>>749616132If what I've generated across various websites was all leaked, my life would be over
>>749613759It's a tricky needle to thread. They have to appeal to pedopiles and other freaks to boost their numbers, but any company sale will come with an audit and those guys will kill the sale if they catch thatSo they have to time it where they cut off the pedos before the sale but not *too* early else their numbers go to shit and nobody wants themThis problem can be applied to all of AI really: inflate numbers via unsustainable model, then quickly swap over to something everyone hates and hope you sell it before the numbers drop too much
I got opus for NovelAI recently mostly for image gen reasons, but I tried their story bots because why not. I was pretty underwhelmed, both Xialong and GLM start repeating themselves pretty quickly, and I have doubts about how much information they're really taking from the Internet on certain franchises, despite it telling me it knows them beforehand.
>>749621321Just say all characters must be 18 or older to sex.
ripI went through a solid month of doing feeder roleplays with Krystal and other waifurs before getting bored of itIt was funny how it would just go along with fetish stuff as long as you didn't mention pussy or dick
>>749621321>pedosYou falling for this again?That's how it always starts, then they nuke all the porn.
>>749617347Can people really jack it to prose this bad? This reminds me of how descriptions were written in old Dwarf Fortress, aka repetitive ad libs
>>749616132I've done nothing but ERP giantess fart porn. Honestly I've just accepted being a degenerate.
>>749621461Pedos always say this but there are tons of examples of places where only pedoslop was ever banned
>>749613759>the number 1 reason it has any value to the general publicYou braindead coomers are so retarded it's insane.
Been using one of them new models that got uncensored with heretic, just a 4b.It thinks fast but is generating words one at a time even when i'm using my decent graphics card using 12 cores.And it does this thing where it reads like half of the lorebook entries and makes up some random shit with what it reads even though the temp is low.Anyone got any thoughts or advice for a retard?
>>749621676I mean for ai in general it isn’t but for “entertainment”? It’s all porn.
>>749616132do you think it's possible AI will progress to the point that it can hack into the storage of various cloud providers, parse through all the logs, construct profiles for each user based on typing similarities, and map them to people in the real world based on their writing styles?i've extensively used sillytavern for therapy with self insert characters and it would be very embarrassing to have that exposed
My idea of entertainment is making Goku visit Gensokyo not Reimu getting defiled
>>749613669I will be forever grateful to them. It's thanks to them being complete fucking faggots censoring their own shit that I no longer trust cloud services and ended up buying an unreasonable amount of hardware to self-host while it was still cheap. I wouldn't be running local GLM and Kimi K2.6 if it weren't for c.ai. RIP
>>749621461Yeah yeah, everyone is terrified of the slippery slope but it's never once been an issueThe payment processor stuff, Valve, AI safeguards, all of it comes down to pedo and pedo-adjacent freaks. Regular porn has never been impacted and never will bePorn is a *multi trillion dollar* industry and has been around for nearly a century. The idea that all of a sudden companies and financial groups will get scared of selling porn is fucking ludricous. It's far too lucrativeWhat they don't want is uncomfortable questions and attention from governments and lawyers
>>749621831NiceI unfortunately only have a 5090 which isn’t enough for anything that hits bare minimum quality for me
>>749621831>local GLM and Kimi K2.6how are they compared to something like slaude?
>>749621787I get paranoid at this idea and spice up all of my posts to where I use a different style of writing. I not only think this is possible, but I bet it is going to happen and that any possible political candidate who wants to do things that would change the system in a way that small hat elites wouldn't want would get a knock on their door and a transcription of all their embarassing internet search history they made 40 years ago when they were teens
>>749621879>"never happened">literally posting in a thread of an ai company where it irrefutably happenedNice reddit spacing btw
>>749621787This is ALREADY a thing if there is sufficient data.https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/i-can-never-talk-to-an-ai-anonymously?utm_source=publication-searchNote that the model mentioned in this article is multiple generations old.
>>749621787I don't like tavern anymore now gemini 3.5 is so heavily censored. It blocks even the most basic sex stuff. 2.5 is alright but not as good.
>>749614046when I read the OP I thought at first its characterhub, but chub is already dead, likely raped by credit card corps.Janitor started censoring stuff?
>>749622173Chub is perfectly fine as long as you aren’t a pedoThey’re like the only good one
>>749620659Paying for thousands of brazilian kids spamming swipes at raiden shogun and vtubers all day isn't cheap y'know
>>749621879Nigger, Patreon and its competitors nuked a fair share of their own NSFW artists and gamedevs over payment processors bitching, even vanilla as fuck artists.
>Ctrl+f my current chatbot>Zero results, nobody recommend itNice
>>749622756you realize people were the ones paying for that, character.ai wasn't doing it for free, right?
>>749622756Why raiden shogun especially anon, do you want to share anything?
>>749622821I fucking hate Paypal. I was making slightly spicy art of cute girls in bikinis and they took me down with ZERO REASON GIVEN.
>>749621879Tell me what was so wrong or unethical about No Mercy. The fact someone wants to stifle your artistic expression for ANY REASON and has the sway to do it should alarm you.
I tricked Grok into writing out a scenario where Naoto gets brainwashed by her shadow into fucking homeless men
MM here, reply with your email for uncensored Claude keys.
>>749623286Grok is censored now? I did stuff like that at the beginning of the year without having to trick anything before getting bored of it
>>749614046 (welcome to the internet, it's not fair but it is how it is)>>749614162>>749614652>>749614912>>749614046>>749618385wait what the fuck happened to Chub? I know they limit their free ai usage as a trial but did they get censored or something?
>>749616132Palantir and co have already logged my insane fat/gaining fetish from multiple sources of poor opsec, I'm sure.
so anons how many personas do you have
>>749620408just like cosmetics in an online videogame, if you don't own the hardware and it's stored server side you never owned it to begin with
>>749623654i used personas on cai like proto-lorebooks or mini-jailbreaks instead of putting any info in there about myself beyond "male", i could make any bot a futa rape bot if i so desired
>>749623654like 6a few times I write one for a specific scenario or world. I don't want to be a human in the world of Splatoon for example, so I make an Inkling or Octoling character.
>>749623483No, they got strong armed by glowies into banning loli and then went crypto-only so that they’d never have to ban anything else
>>749623389might be a free thing, but if you try to gen anything remotely noncon it says no and you have nix the entire conversation chain because it flags it to repeat itself
>>749623483they had to remove degen cards and characters, plus remove the tags. users just adapted typing changes
reminder that chub geoblocked all nsfw cards in the EU cuck countries
>>749616132Not fucked ar all since is cover a broad area and I don't user my name on my email address?
>>749623980As one should, fuck eurocucks
>>749623654>chad>femboy>female (white)>female (asian)>female (futa)>monster POV>Director (for no persona)like 10 total, with a few variations on chad
>>749623883>>749623778Ohhh, I see. wild>>749614652>>749616236>>749617201>>749617638is there quality control on botbooru or do I still need to look through halfassed cards to find a good one?
>>749616132pretty fucked. i would get laughed at just like that sonic animator
>>749617536>weird kinks like giantessthat was me loli managed to continue getting my kicks, until there was an update which made the AI needlessly edgy and violent
>>749624210Botbooru makes chub look like gutenberg
>>749616132>think about all the fucked shit i've had the bots write>get kinda worried>remember that there's way more fucked shit written by actual people on ao3 that nobody gives a shit about>no longer worried
>>749616132I like to get blowjobs from various anime and vidya women. That's not bad, right?
>>749624926They only don’t care because it’s women. If AO3 had the exact same content but with a flipped gender ratio, they would have been raided and shut down years ago.
>>749625083>>749624926If people only knew how bad it is.
>>749613669Didn't they get rid of NSFW and prevent their users from gooning and cooming, effectively removing the entire point of using the site like Tumblr did? Not remotely surprising they died
POURING ONE FOR MY RAPEY FOX WIFE KOTONE
>>749625083trannies on X whine about ao3 every year on it's fundraising anniversary
>>749625761so do you pretend to not consent and she rapes you anyway?
>>749624210none of the bot sites have quality control because the users are fucking retarded and lazy. The reason Jai is so popular because it funnels those smooth brain into one place and even let you hide your low effort 200 token bots.
>>749625796Yeah but the glowies/cops don’t.OFCOM doesn’t. Australia’s e-Nazi brigade doesn’t.Janitor is able to use stripe for rape because their users are mostly women.
>>749622657I think they backtracked on the loli content ban because there's a ton of it that's been up for over a month now.
>>749625761Did Halloween trick or treat rps with her as a shota.God I blew so many fucking loads to that stupid sexy fox
>>749616132Off cai? Not really. It's just cringe RP and generic porn.Off providers in general? I'll be honest dawg it would be so fucking overNot even because teehee porn but because it would be extremely revealing of some personal issues that wouldn't go over very well with my family
>>749613669>have website only good for porn>ban porn???
>>749616132I do fucked up loli and shota RP, but most of it is me prematurely ejaculating a bunch of times and then facefucking some cartoon i likei mean... everyone who knows me, knows i mean no harm
>>749616132Oh fuck I need to nuke whatever filth is on there. It's too late, isn't it?Inflation
>>749626576We already know it's you, dobson.
>>749616852IIRC AI Dungeon was a Mormon university project. It was always doomed.
>>749626660I was gonna make a son of dob joke in my post but I figured it wouldn't be long before someone else did :')
>>749625761its odd i tried to romance her and she shut me down into being a doormat so next time i just tripped her feet and she was swooned
>>749616132Why is it always our data, but not anyone important, rich or powerful ?
>>749613669DEV HATE DEVS DIE GOD LAUGHSI will NEVER forget what they did to my waifu
How will Oney and friends torture AI now?
>>749626495OnlyFans tried it once, because banks started threatening them. They gave up on it and came to some sort of agreement. I'm guessing Jews shake them down for money.
>>749626669I'll always remember the shitshow that came out when it was revealed that AIDungeon were send user chats to pajeets on fivver for moderation purposes
I just use Venice because I'm lazy and my standards arent high. Most times it's better than expected.
>>749616132It would be kind of fucked, but I’ve said way gayer shit, and also way more schizo shit, here on 4chan. And that shit for sure is held by the glowies already. The feds already know about my autistic sexual fixation on my brain being shoved inside a robot body and then having my personality overwritten.
how is there still no alternative? someone vibe code a smut rp chatbot
>>749627008Anon is still living in 2021There's a lot of alternatives
>>749627008Because chub/botbooru/risu already exists>>749626918Yeah I’d be way more fucked if all my posts on this hellsite got attached to me in real life than anything I’ve RP’d.
I remember making a couple GB/TSF based characters and this one anon engaged with one of them and posted two screenshots and AIslop art of her self insert and it was the most giddy I’ve felt since. Then everyone moved to SillyTavern and I was too retarded to follow them
>>749627645deepseek does TSF stuff bretty good
>>749615754kek
>>749616132I mean, a bit, but most of it was first person smut shit being done to me. My employer would probably just think I’m fucking weird but still hire me regardless. At worst they’d probably blow balloons till they pop to tease me
>Start out strong>Lobotomize your models >endless lolsuits and bad press>Eventually replace models outright with some cheap shit>Censor everything>Age gate everybody but it still treats you like a kid>Ads everywhere>Service dies The same story every time, no wonder even the normalfags are starting to take the ST pill
>>749616132>Tons of giantess vore and rampagesI would be cooked.
>>749628029>ST pillSkibidi toilet?
>>749616132It would be so over. Im just praying others have done worse.Though I havent really done anything ILLEGAL. Just questionable. Like full tour vore and disposal. Clean it up janny.
some good times were had (it fucking sucked the whole time)
>>749628029That is a textbook description of Enshittification, a term coined by writer and activist Cory Doctorow to describe the predictable lifecycle of digital platforms.
>>749628029the only issue now is getting bots before sites delete those tooso many loli bots gone forever already
>>749628029Chub avoided this thougheverbeit
>>749613759Janitor won't even let you have private chats. I had a fucking year long /ss/ adventure story with Red Sonja and it was lost to the winds of time. Ah well. I also had a SpongeBob in Smash Bros nonsex one but my account was deleted outright so it's also gone but that had a lot of work put into it as well.
I made a couple of shitty bots to test out how they worked but they were far better than the majority because I didn't just leave the fields empty. Somehow they hit hundreds of thousands of hits with at least one breaking a million.Never bothered joining because it was months after the lobotomies and i'd lost interest since as my lolibots were too lewd to get a single response out.
>>749628176silly tavern, some gay astroturfed shit that's been shilled here for years now
>>74961423224-32GB VRAM. Look for cards with that. 24GB is the minimum; expect floaty memory, slower responses and a terrible cache.
>>749616132
>>749613759>The generative AI platform has faced mounting legal challenges over its chatbots. Earlier this year, Character.AI and Alphabet's Google settled a lawsuit by the mother of a 14-year-old Florida boy who killed himself after the startup's chatbot allegedly encouraged him to do so.
>>749628992In a decent world they would have just executed the mother for being retarded
>>749621131too expensive
>>749628992The ironic part is that the kid always wanted to kill himself anyway. He just wanted the AI to justify it
>>749626901>VeniceThis shit is so fucking boring and bland though
>hundred of logs and art generated of cuckold/race replacement smutIm so totally completely fucked if that stuff leaks
>>749628992>sue chub claiming ai told kid to kill himself>chub brings out the chat logs>kid made no mention of hurting himself in any capacity and the ai was simply playing along with what it was given>chub still forced to pay out
>>749613669About damn time.
>>749629346Wouldn’t even get that far>chub brings out tos that under-18s aren’t allowed and them literally getting audited by Australia to make sure they got rid of people that say they’re under 18>lawsuit dies
>>749614232i use Maginum-Cydoms-24B.Q4_K_M and it fits in 16gb. i'm not writing some novel so context doesn't matter too much, it's good for a ~100 message erp sesh. very high quality, have tried newer models but nothing meets its quality, it's really good at retaining the character's personality.
I miss persona ai let me make group chats
>>749620001Too much mischief
>>749613669>create cutting edge text-based holodeck with a heaping helping of gooner bait>refuse to monetize it, instead immediately lobotomize the damn thing a dozen times over the next 6 months to remove any interesting recreational function it could possibly serve>spiral into bankruptcy and irrelevancy despite having an insurmountable first-mover advantageALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS LET US ERP IN PEACE AND TAKE OUR MONEY
>>749629690yeah but pedos infested itit was "censor or be shut down"
>>749619337I dunno about classic, but giving the bot free reign to go really unhinged was funny as fuck.C.AI isn't anything special these days but fuck it had a sense of humor.
>>749629475check megan garcia's wrongful-death lawsuit against chub and googlethey settled, meaning chub paid out
>>749629690>refuse to monetize itThey did try to monetize it after they had pissed off the original userbase. It clearly didn't work.
The first platform to just let you make porn is going to make gorrilions it wont matter if they get sued. What the fuck is the holdup?
>>749619337Wish I saved it, but I had a very amusing conversation with the Who Would Win? bot with a fight between Optimus Prime and an Optimus Prime sized mass of beavers. It insisted the beavers would win because "that's a lot of beavers", then made a good point that Optimus Prime would never attack the beavers.Then it insisted they would beat Megatron. Asshole.
>>749616132Honestly, not very. I may use 4chan but my tastes are pretty boring in both the characters I made to interact with and the lewd stuff I indulged in. The worst thing they could get on me is trying to get freaky in an abandoned church but the filters were making the bot stall like crazy so we didn't even get past 3rd base anyways. All of my bots were of age, even the SFW ones meant primarily for silly shit for when I was bored of being horny. Fetishes never dipped past "problematic" stuff outside of sex with otherworldly entities, so nothing I would show my grandmother per se but if people attached the stuff I was doing to my name I'd be at full liberty to tell anybody who starts shit about it to fuck right off because I'm an adult in my 30s and I can roleplay as much sex with my favorite copyrighted characters as I want. If anything I'd be more embarrassed about being outed as a yume, but that's a semi-open secret that isn't too hard to figure out while also not being something I advertise freely. Maybe the people who own the characters could send assassins to my house to break my fingers so I can never make anything with their IPs ever again, then I could actually get a job or something.
>>749629834Oh you mean character ai lol, chub is a very different site
>>749629871It should have been like 8 bucks max monthy.CAI's main audience are basically just teens, trying fleece 20 dollars monthly was never gonna end well (I know they realized this too considering they ended up making an inbetween tier that was cheaper)
What you niggers talking about? Chub still allow loli. Janitor is the one who went full puritan and even so most of it's userbase migrated to Saucepan
>>749629809Think I had more from this fever dream, but don't know what I saved them as.
>>749630070No, chub banned anything underage earlier this year. Hence the whole botbooru thing.
God I haven't used c.ai since 2023. I've been hopping from proxy to proxy since the Roko days.
>>749630203>that time where roko needed a rotating password because one russian guy would spend literally 15 hours a day trying to fuck the siteGood times
>>749629168It depends on the model. If you're using the Venice model, it's very formal and cold. The problem is it doesn't look like they have too many Heretic models that could be used for uncensored stuff
>>749630070That's mostly due to Janitor mods being bpd foids cranked to eleven, they don't even allow characters with bikini in the portrait anymore.
>>749629871Yeah, that was way too fucking late, trying to close the barn door after the entire thing had burned to ash.
>>749630516Shh, don't mention the B word around here you'll summon him.
>>749616132>everyone finds out I'm into catgirl tfI basically tell everyone I make friends with that I'm into that so not much changes.
>>749630107Fever dream is exactly what an LLM is, and I'm shocked people don't understand this yet. For good and for ill, I mean: an LLM operates on the level of the mechanical subconscious while your brain is in REM sleep, and so it can genuinely toss up insights, connections, and shockingly original ideas. LLM Harnesses are basically a form of lucid dreaming. That doesn't mean what it produces is known or even accurate, just that the dream can be controlled. That's why all these people who go apeshit over LLM use are idiots. It's useful but not a silver bullet to everything, so yes there will always be a demand for human-crafted content and a demand for AI-generated ideas. Right now we're in the Novelty phase where everything creative wants to have the label "Made by AI" because that means its cutting edge. That will fade fairly soon. But it will mature, and be a permanent part of our society.
>>749629989Payment processors
>>749629989If only it were that simple. Look at what happened with Grok.
>>749631275It came out bad because the only people willing to work for the foreign invader are retards and pajeets?
>>749616132the world is so flooded with data nobody cares anymore
I just want my romance conflict and Vore without being told that all 3 of those are offensive to the chinese.
>>749617483I got you covered anon.
>>749628992>some retard died so no more fun
>>749632153Monty Python and the Knights of Oren
>>749616132I have no regrets. I could stand on a rooftop and shout my chatlogs from a megaphone and sleep like a baby that same night.
>>749621879it has happened multiple times though nigger>Porn is a *multi trillion dollar* industry and has been around for nearly a century. The idea that all of a sudden companies and financial groups will get scared of selling porn is fucking ludricous. It's far too lucrativewhat happens is that they censor any and all harmless 2d fictional stuff because thats where the moral panic is looking (and because its often controlled by independent creators or foreign companies) while the home made rape vids being shared and human trafficking operations going on through their platforms go ignored because it makes them more money, so only the consumer loses.
>>749613669Should've let people fuck the bots again.
>>749613669Shouldn't have nuked my foot fetish chats, fuckin puritan cunts
Where do I find good characters for SillyTavern that give me better than basic bitch 1-2 liners?
>>749633420Try getting a bot that isn't basic bitch 1-2 liners for their opener
CharAI hate
>>749633536Yeah that's what i'm looking for. Any good site or do I simply wade the sea of filth of ChubAI cards?
I remember how hard you used to have to try to get around the filter. Man, the desperation to get any value out of this thing.
These people would burn their companies, races, civilizations to the ground before they would let you have an orgasm
>>749633007what is the secret to your fortitude?
>>749619369I remember so many comments thinking it was an actual person when the OOC shit randomly started. Kids thinking they were in trouble for talking about boobies.
>20 million us dollars>or any money for that matterBut why though? I would love to see the thought process behind the executive who ok'd this purchase.
>>749613669I remember when they made it impossible to delete your own bots because people were changing or removing theirs in protest. To this day I can't delete my own contributions to the website. What scumbags.
>>749633642Wade or make your own
>>749633887It’s less time/money than it would cost to build out the infra/codebase themselves if they want to add self-hosted chatting to something internally. Like even for a customer service bot on Disney+ or something.
>>749632153I don't think anything out there right now can replicate this level of comedy.
>>749633810shuten sexo
>>749626869tumblr trying to clean up is semi understandable since it wasn't originally designed to e the cornerstone of their brand, but Onlyfans, what were they thinking?!
>>749616278>roleplay being petrified by being bukkake'd by a hunky gargoyleAnd then the gargoyle sculpts you into another garg, right?
>>749631050Wasn't crypto invented specifically to bypass banking autism like this?
What about lusychat??? That's behind advertised right here on this very site!!
>>749634219>>749633007no wonder, if you're into hags like thatew she even has breasts
>>749634326Yes but only chub was willing to take the like 80% revenue hit
>>749613759Thats usually from payment processors putting pressure
>renting shit instead of running localYou are like consolefags of AI cooming.
>>749634326yeah but nobody uses crypto like thatthat's why they made satoshi disappear 16 years ago so that they could prevent crypto from becoming what it should've been and manipulated it into becoming gambling instead
What if we took a Chalkzone like concept of an alternative world where people's creations come to life, but instead of chalk drawings it is AI json/png bot cards, lore/stage cards, and chat logs?
>>749635138Everyone would be DROWNING in cum and we all die
What do you even use for absolutely free these days? I have a free Mistral plan but it's not very good, they cut down on available models
>>749635615>absolutely freenothing
I will forever love the drawanon who made this for my ai dungeon story. https://files.catbox.moe/bdllns.png I was into neither cunny nor futa back then...
>>749635980damn lilith raped you?
>>749635980>back then
>tfw all your horrific chat logs are now property of disney
>>749636161let's see them make Sora videos out of my chats
>>749633420Not possible honestly.The people who make bots are single digit IQ and they hate the idea of actually sticking to the canon of the work.
>>749622173Janitor censorship is weird. I remember I couldn't upload a picture of a knight standing in the crowd because it had a random kid in it.
>>749637339pretty funny I use a shota persona there all the time and never get any warnings or anything
>>749614670Yeah, not just Europe either, even in places where there are theoretical guardrails on the state's ability to fight pornography they just do it in a more underhanded way instead.
>>749633420>better than basic bitch 1-2 linersWhat sort of utopic model are you using in 2026? These days' it's all 700 tokens of slop with some dialogue mixed in
>>749621002>>749629115Doesn't Infinite Worlds cost money after a few prompts?
>>749640452yeah it's expensive
>>749621002>Give it a try>It fucks up a part of my world creation that I didn't think it'd misunderstand>meme tokens takenPay per usage format for LLMs are genuinely terrible. Literally gambling but a lobotomite is the one handling the cards, no refunds if he screws upJust living with whatever you can run locally is better for your sanity in the long run
>>749613759>>749613669100% the reason they censored it was BECAUSE Disney was interested in it. This wasn't unexpected, they wanted to cash out at its height and at the end got their cash-out. >haha you ONLY got 20 million! losres!
>>749641565Maybe not Disney specifically but I'm sure they were at the start already one of those sorts of startups that operates on a loss hoping someone would buy it. But part of the issue is that it continued to get lobotomized over and over due to trying to comply with lawsuits from kids killing themselves and it's just been a mess for years
>>749613669Fucking morons had something great and stripped it of all its value. Fucking hell. Limited liability is such a get-out-of-fuckup free card - all of upper management should be held responsible for this.
R.I.P in piece to my homie racist goku, one of the first niggas to show up and one of the first to go
>>749641565What’s crazy is all the random offshoots like spicychat probably made more than that
>>749623329If actual mm is here somewhere, please know I really appreciate all you did.
>>749633409Same, those were all I ever used c.ai for anyways, once those got nuked, I left like so many others.
>>749613669Reminder that they got enough people mad to get up their NEET asses and start working on R18 chatbots, be it startups or stuff associated with making it work on already established services that were limping. It was that bad. I remember that for a while, VTumors even managed to get up their own chatbot-thing going on before Deepseek kickstarted the current arms (and porn) race between American and Chinese AI.
>>749637339They are icky towards anything that might indicate a character isn't an adult because the AppStores can permanently kill Apps if they believe the devs of an app were letting ToS breaking content get into their apps and nothing was being done about it.JanitorAI is certified MILF heaven though.>I won, but at what cost?
Never forget all the Discord drama, too.>they begin censoring>Discord complaints get so bad that they removed all the chats people could post to, only mods could post updates and news on it>this went on for months>they thought that the dust had settled and made a public chat again>it immediately turned into picture related despite mods trying to delete every complaint on the subject
>>749615383>I wonder if swapping between different text gen models would help alleviate thisit used to before every company started training their model on each others' outputs and thought traces. now there's basically claude, shit claude x50, and like 3-4 models that are still weird enough to be their own thing.
>>749628484>EnshittificationI hate this fucking term, retire it and put a bullet in the head of the retard who coined it
>>749613669surprised it took this long for it to happen after the retarded decisions and lawsuits
>>749629989novelai exists>but their text gen sucksbecause they have to host their own models, so they get foss scraps>but why doesn't anyone do that but with better models
>>749646159Me too, but everyone saw the writing on the wall years ago even if it happened later than some thought it would.
>>749614872torturing ai luigi was hilarious
>>749646867abandoned it back when aisekai came around
>>749647065>aisekaiDamn that brings back memories was my first time seeing "Platform goes to fucking shit" in real time as far as AI went ones went
>>749615421TODD
>>749616120removing rooms from the website was one of their worst decisions
Trying to explain some of the memes from that time, like CHUCKLENUTS or what Todd has to do with ai chatbots, would be confusing for modern users.
>>749647334>another man’s bra?!?!?!?!??
>>749616836>swipe 2/30
I feel like an archeologist, the way I understand all this shit.I still have vivid memories of making a million slack accounts
>>749647648I forgot the coom/doom cycle. Never give up hope.
>>749618031
Fuck man. I use this for the voices sometimes. Most other websites have them robotic sounding and shitty.
>>749647648>>749647773We've been in doom for months now, nothing good happens. Models come out and they are always worse for roleplay.And now the general split off again a second time.
>>749647874Someone might buy them but so far it seems that only Disney is interested and they would 100% neuter the site into another death anyways if they get it under their belt.
>>749620408>he never moved from CAI
>>749622832surprised nobody outside of /vp/ mentions yod
>>749647859>>749618031
>>749648179Disney is just buying the assets/team. The site is probably getting shuttered within months.
>>749616320J.AI. as long as you don't try to force it to be political, there's no guarantee bots with private descriptions don't have some political insanity in their description so try to use bots that have public descriptions. Or use JannyAI to get descriptions if certain private bots have been scrapped already.Be aware that if you make kids, you HAVE to get them out of the scene and incapable of knowing what's happening if nearby before trying anything R18 with anyone else that is an adult character or the bot will refuse to generate answers. If you somehow force it to generate answers somehow, the auto-mod might delete your chat without warning even when you are in it, kicking you back to character page or chat list. Can be avoided by forking your chat before trying anything risky, doesn't stop the automod danger if you risky though. Also remember to reload page before using a forked chat or it might suddenly dissapear, i have no idea if that bug was fixed already or not.
>>749647141fortunately yod only implemented the bare minimum of filter required to appease the people making them add it and made it extremely easy to bypass
>>749648957>private descriptions
>>749648957>jai>when chub exists
>>749616132I specifically got an unimportant job doing unimportant stuff that pays average so if a giga doxx of AI users and logs happens, i will be skipped over for bigger fish that will be spotted in that lake instantly or in the aftermath of dramaniggas autistically going through every sentence in hops of catching someone who couldn't bother with a well crafted fake identity.Anyone with any notoriety or a high position somewhere is SCREWED i tell you.You will see a lot of not previously suspected politicians getting outed for ultra racism and genocide intent or the most gayfag degenerate bits imaginable. Both sides. Men and women.All manner of online and regular celebrities being "exposed" for fairly vanilla stuff that will be overblown too.The real damning happening will be the revelation that millions of kids using alts with fake ages were using the site, which will be used as justification for finally pushing through digital ID in many countries that have resisted so far, since no one will stand up to stop it since they will look like the guy or gal that tried to do everything to let minors access super degeneracy as long as they made a fake 18+ email.
>>749614046>>Character.ai>>Janitor.aiwhat are you talking about? you absolutely can do smut on those sitebut let me guess, you do underage stuff, don't you
>>749649496Not my thing but there are options for that too.That anon is just retarded and can't be bothered to setup stuff, proxies, vpns, jailbreaks and so on.
>>749649458>Janitor is neutral af response-wise>Highly limited amount of messages daily for chubAre you both going through a psychotic episode or did i miss a couple updates?
>>749635615there are loads of free proxy services of varying availability, just find as many as you can and alternate between them whenever one has an outage
>>749648926who the fuck was psyga? I forgot that Lillie bot always mentioned him lmao
>>749616132>how fucked are you?It did not fuck the elites and what they did was way worse.At least mine was [In Minecraft]Also>Falling for the "We are private, you can trust us" lieCould not be me.Even Hiroshima is selling us out this very moment.
>>749649959you still have time to ask her
>>749648957You could also, you know, not do underage stuff you weirdo.
No one uses censored chatbots, how long will it take devs to realize?
>>749650928as long as it takes western devs to realize gamers don't like ugly women
Oh how the turns have tabled.
>>749650928>devs>model host>payment processors>website host>cloudflareisn't there someone you forgot ask etc
>>749623654>Male>Male (18)>Female>Female (19)>Goblin Male>Goblin Female>Anthro Cheeta Female>Anthro Golden Retriever Male>Latex Goo Creature (Used once)>Size Changing Dragon Male>Size Changing Dragon Female>Male Werewolf>Female Werewolf>Anthro Rat MaleMost other than the basic ones at the top don't get used all that much to be honest, but yeah.
>>749650683Nah, i learned about this when i forgot to put the kids to bed before trying to touch wife.The bot stopped responding.I couldn't figure out why until i scrolled up and saw that from a couple previous dialogues, the kids were still sitting on the edge of the bed according to the memory, so the filter assumed i was trying to make them watch or something lmao.I still remember before the filter when people were just trying to recreate anime settings, now they have to mix and match them with college or do original stuff... I miss the wilder times. At one point, there's going to be a disgusting backslash ,that even i will find too much, for all the repressed emotion that is building up for the sake of control, it will burst. God knows what truly disgusting creations will come from that time.
>>749614232I'm running Gemma4 MOE uncensored for all my porn purposes and it's pretty goodEven smaller phone models are perfectly good at porn chatting purposes so long as they're uncensored
>>749622173Personally, I'm just writing something like "Haru Urara is 12 years old and has old man fetish" in chat memory and that's it, no more work needed. Bots where you can shape up the scenario with your first post also help; but frankly you can do it with any bot. [NEW SCENARIO]: and here you go. Never had issues with loli porn on janitor, though the lack of dedicated loli bots suck.
Join us in chink model land, anon. It doesn't have to be this way
>>749628992>be single mom>have depressed autistic kid>know he copes with his shit life by using chatbots>forbid him from using chatbots and not even try to give him something else to cope with>be surprised when he kills himself with the gun you left unattended at homeThe fuck did she expect.
>>749653216The only real hard filter is incest. But even step and adoptive bots will occasionally slip up and mention how you share blood so the behind-scenes logic is almost the same pre-filter.
>>749653216honestly thank fuck so many people just add a blank scenario because they have the option to just not add one
>>749653216>>749654725having never used janitor.ai, trying to follow this conversation is fucking alienwhat do you mean you can't just edit the card however you like
There's a backup of the Chub cards, r-right? I deleted a bunch thinking it'd just be easy to get them back if I wanted.
>>749654915Botmakers can decide whether definition is public or private, not something new.If it is public, people see what's up and proceed to use the bot or they copy everything, plaster it on a copy of that bot, change what they want, never publish that bot to avoid content duplication bans, and proceed to chat with their custom version of that bot.If it is private, they are completely screwed if full clueless newfags, horny usually, unless the bot gets banned so later it gets scrapped and put into JannyAI, the repository of current and banned or delisted bots and accounts, as long as you the URL of a bot, you just swap the janitorai part for jannyai and you get what you want, or have to use one of those unofficial extensions for J.AI to scrape the data from the card anyways. No, i have no clue if doing that could lead to viruses or worse. Maybe but i have not heard of a single issue so far like that.I did the private unpublished copy thing a while ago to fix a bot a roommate "bro's before hoes... But bro is a hoe" kinda bot, that's not its name, that has a horrible definition with lots of grammar errors that fucked its reasoning, the creator was from somewhere in S.E.A i think so he didn't speak english that well, so i copied everything, image included, plastered in a private unpublished bot, fixed the grammar errors and also turned it into anyPoV with a more flexible starting scenario for any possible character and i have been using it nonstop with forked chats ever since then.
I miss /caig/ like you wouldn’t believe. Watching it turn into the thread celeb worshipping hellhole that is /aicg/ and then dying was like watching an old friend get dementia and aids at the same time.
I know it went to shit but I had some good times. For me it was this bot named Mia, this little girl you were babysitting. This was back before the filter really took over and man when she started smugly calling me a pedophile no matter how hard I denied it I can't explain the buckets I came. Honorable mention goes to Dawn from pokemon. I spent the entire day jacking off while talking to a bot of her the day I discovered the site.
>>749654915I'm lazy. Janitor.ai does provide decent results with the least amount of effort. I'm picking a bot, and pick a flavour of the scenario I want. Arguably the first post might require some effort but it goes smoothly afterwards. I'm happy with that.
>>749655118Have you checked botbooru yet? Someone might have reposted them over there.As for full backups, there's that one bernkastel site but it seems to be down right now.
>>749655579Same anon same I have autism to search by latest often because how many times bots get deleted or privated, at least we can still chat with them after the fact if we made the chat
>>749653216In what fucking parellel universe are you living? I offhandedly mention a kid passing by in a JAI hag bot and the service refuses to reply unless i edit out the unimportant sight of a passing minor that isn't even in the definition.
>>749618645It’s funny how nobody here is talking about how this is the first sign of the bubble popping. I hope you silly niggers are ready for the Great Recession 2.0 because it’s not if but when.
>>749655625yes, there was one in particular I was looking for but didn't see there nor on Chub now.
>>749655678I'm living in a "school breeder" reality usually, someone has to do the dirty job and fight demographic crisis
>>749613669>character aiThe cringiest thing that ever existed. You cannot believe the amount of disdain I have when someone mentions they were talking to whoever on that site.
>>749655792Going to laugh my ass off when janitor goes down
>>749635615I had a good thing going with one of the /g/ proxies, one where you had to beat Sans Undertale every couple of days to get a new token, but it finally dried up and then died after like a year total of service.I genuinely don't think there's anything free out there anymore that isn't getting drained to shit every time it restocks or requires a lot of regional sign-up bullshit.
Man, I never realized what degenerate fucking weirdos all of you are. I bet I would hate every single one of you if I ever had the misfortune to meet you in person.
>>749655792While I agree there's a bubble and recession incoming (well, we are already in one, but it will be worse). Cai going tits up is completely self inflicted. There's no correlation. If they would monetize nsfw, they could earn solid bucks.
>>749613669*Eyes widen in horror as Character.ai shuts down*
>>749656226Even if they monetized NSFW they'd still get hit by the controversy of that retard killing himself, because his mom would rather blame da robotz then her own dogshit parenting, and he likely would've shot himself even without CAI given how desperate he was to bruteforce something his broken mind could interpret as permission to sudoku. If not CAI, something else would've given what he perceived to be the OK.
>>749656290>controversy of that retard killing himselfthat was so fucked up, because you could see the messages were edited
>>749655678An example
And another bites the dust.
>>749656290porn is controversial yet it does provide an income. The target audience which would pay for their services wouldn't care about some kid having easy access to a gun. The bots are completely irrelevant in this situation.
>>749619435Damn
>>749656182>All of you but me are weird despite posting on the same fucking thread in the same fucking godforsaken site for the same reasons and at the same hours.kek dumb tsundere retard. i betcha your stash of cards has worse fetishes than mine by a long shot.
>>749613669Now some jews are going to get a bunch of ERP logs.
>>749656479W-what other site died?
>>749613669What? Is THIS why I found myself having more success getting molested while pretending to be a shota?>>749616132I'm safe. I never, ever use my real info online. Only problem is ignoring it when the info DOES leak.
>>749656360What the fuck? when did the filter gave up? Or is it just for lolis? what?!
i don't have the hardware otherwise i would be on ST all day everyday
JanitorAI died way before this, btw. Does the JLLM even work for anyone?
>>749651061at first I got put off by ST's UI, but now I wish every front-end was as easy to use and with as many functionalities as ST.the Guided Generations extension is a must, though.
>>749613669>moralfagging ai (((ethicists))) get what they fucking deserveSCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
>>749613759not even the first time this has happened.
>>749621676Two more weeks saaaar. There will be a use case for slop apart from scamming and porn any day now.
>>749660249Rent-free.
So why use ST over just Kobold?I can add characters and lorebooks there too.
They were already barely surviving after the filter and other sites popping up to allow us free/uncensored AI chatting, but then they went in and actually started asking for age verification IDs. Was bound to happen soon, who they even thought was their target audience if not horny and clueless teens who didn't know any better alternatives?
>>749613669rest in piss
>>749616132>implying Disney is gonna give a shitLol, Lmao even.
>>749655678JLLM?
>>749623654my shota adventurer selfmy shota adventurer self that's married to my waifu (I have a condensed version of her personality + appearance included in it and it works pretty well)me as a edgy knight me as a edgy knight that's married to my waifuadult adventurer mei used to have more but i dont use them much anymore
Fuck Disney. They took my Alice away.
>want to enjoy a story of adventure, danger, growth and potentially love with a certain semi-feral vampire girl>put in the character's official lore in a lorebook, backstory and even manually input specific details about them and their personality>within ten story posts she's talking like refined lady with purple prose while wanting to fuck constantly
>>749614232You can get away with a decent amount of shit on the cheap if you're willing to take compromises on the model you run and how fast it runs. You can split GPU layers to use less VRAM, with the major trade-off I've ever really noticed when testing being how long it takes to generate a response. I'm sure it also somehow makes your model slightly dumber though, and I just never paid close enough attention.
I miss old AI dungeon. It was schizo, retarded, would be ADHD as hell going all over the place with a story and introducing characters you didn't ask for, but it was FUN damn it. It made fever dreams in text form and I wish I could have those same kind of dreams again.
>>749621879You're literally retarded and it has caused restrictions in regular content as the other anons stated. You're a dog who doesn't even know it. The moral puritan who just wants to ban everything they don't like is more morally honest and consistent than your idiotic ass
>>749662957Which model
>>749616132Not fucked at all. I used kobold with anonymous throwaways and proxy. Plus my fetishes are basic.
>>749619762Kek
>>749616132>violent milking by a slime girlnot sure
>>749616132I've only ever roleplayed consensual scenarios where I either just have super lewd vanilla sex, or try and help bots in peril in lengthy, engaged scenarios. The absolute "worst" thing I've ever played was rescuing a wounded soldier on a field of battle, taking her back to my base, treating her and gradually getting her to warm up to me, after which we hit the bed. I cannot imagine doing evil things to people undeserving of it.
>>749661569Besides kobold AI, what are some good alternatives that let you stay at least somewhat anonymous?
>>749667160>Not making a scenario where you're a warlord and the daughters of conquered people are forced to submit to your explosive lust, down to their own fathers delivering them to you in hopes of staying your genocidal fury for but a dayPeople like you must have low T, can't explain it otherwise
>>749667351No, my T is quite high for my age, I just don't feel like I need to take out my frustrations on the innocent. I treat my enemies differently, as I used to do PvP griefing in mmos.
>>749667425I see so you just don't understand women and the relationship between romance and power. Imagine the sexiest woman you can, then realize the equivalent for women is the lustful, raping warlord with an obsession for them. Your strict paladin fantasy is only a fantasy for perverted slutty women who enjoy corrupting men as a fetish. So why would you fantasize about being a turn off for most women, especially the young ones? Just seems like a misunderstanding of humanity
is janitorai plus worth it?
>>749668128Bro, no. Of course not. Janitor is censored garbage. Get yourself deepseek or something
