RIP PC Gaming1977 - 2026
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WAITFAGS ON SUICIDE SQUAD KEKMAO
>>749627663AI Bubble status bros, our response?
>>749627663>he didn’t buy when it was like $2400What were you thinking?
>>749628074That's not really the point. This is an inflection point in PC gaming and it means there will no longer be any technological advances in the industry anymore. We're only going backwards from here on out.
>>749627663>AMD still selling strong and planning on releasing new GPUs soon...huh? I guess you're fucked only if you really really really cared about ray tracing gimmicks...
These cards are only good for CUDA and NVENC. If all you do is play vidya, you should just get an AMD card.
>>749627663Weird, I'm on PC and can still play just fine. Anybody else?
>>749628341>there will no longer be any technological advances in the industry anymoreGood, every "advance" in the last 20 years has been a net negative on the medium. Hopefully AAA studios go back to making good games now.
>>749628341maybe if we reverse long enough AAA games become good againor we drive off a cliff, whatever happens first
>>749628341DLSS was a tech advance and people just pissed and moaned and cried about it, might as well stop making unoptimized games aiming at future hardware and start fucking optimizing shit again.
>>749627991Progressing steady toward the goal of eliminating personal computers
>>749628859you mean that thing that makes every character age 50 years? yea. advance!
>>749628341So nothing changes
>>749628960like clockwork.
>>749628896how do you explain local models, then?
>>749628341>muh flying cars
Lets do this one more time>post yfw you didn't wait
>>749627663now we just need the government to crack down on these (illegal) AI recomps and decomps and PC will be truly dead
>>749627663Consoles use the same PC parts, Nintendo uses Nvidia for their GPUs.
>>749629302>hating dlsslop is leftism nowkill yourself
>>749628341During 1998 to 2006 theres no technological advancement due to PC hardware being retardly expensive. We through this before and we get through this again
>>749629302i dont talk reddit i dont know what the fuck that means
>>749628341Gaming stopped having substantial technological advances after the PS3
>>749629553Sorry anon, that's what the bots decided to do now. Hating AI makes you a leftist.
>>749628341No. No new hardware is coming, but games will continue raising their requirements and running at lower FPS to push the goyim to throw away their working hardware. The endgame is 24 FPS@1080p on lowThat's what's gonna happen
Enjoying the groundwork for the future dystopia we're entering? It won't be one of those cool ones like in your favorite video game or movie.
>>749629823>hating [thing I'm shilling] makes you [thing everyone hates]!One of the oldest tricks in the book
>>749628074That paying 2400 for a card to play games on is retarded
>>749628896It really feels like that will be the end result of all this. AI slopped games that you'll need to rent computers to play or probably a shitty streaming service.
>>749629924How are they going to prevent independent developers and smaller studios from doing the rational thing and make less demanding games?
>>749628074I had a chance to nab one for 2k but I pussied out because of the scaremongering with the cables. Can't believed I lost my chance at an east 5k profit.
>>749629362how are you gonna run them when your gpu dies and you cant buy another?
>>749629924>The endgame is 24 FPS@1080p on lowI never evolved past that, so I win
>>749629631>no advancement between 1998 and 2006Are you retarded? The best card in 1998 was a 3Dfx Voodoo 2. The 8800gtx came out in 2006 and was enormously powerful by comparison. It had like 100x the ram for one.
>>749630246The elites who’ll control us will find it in their hearts to give us a new one for free
>>749628341Name some technological advances in the last 10 years that had a positive effect on the quality of games.
>>749630346Those thing cost like $10000 back in the day
What's wrong with renting a cloud computer from Amazon or Microsoft?
>>749629362Something that will also be taken away from you once the kikes in charge of AI fully realize that the goyim can use them to have lots of unfiltered and unmoderated fun with AI without having to pay a unlimited amount of money for tokens.
>>749630880>whats wrong with not owning nothing?slow down there jewyou need a lot more propaganda for that
>>749627663Do you think there is someone that predicted this and bought them near launch and then sold for 2-3 more?
>>749628341That's absolutely wrong. In fact, there is going to be way more technology now...locked behind montly payment cloud gaming.
>What's wrong with renting- ACK!!!!!!!
>>749627663Well then how Biostar has RX580s still being sold ?
>>749630880The Cloud needs the same parts, enjoy paying $249.99 a month.
>>749628341Meanwhile the most popular game in the world is still running on a 20+ year old engine. 3D was the last technological advancement that had any wonder and no one gives a shit about VR. There's nowhere left to take gaming. I don't care about hyper realism.
>>749627663The ***90's were always benchmark memes that underperformed for the price kid. Is this news to you?
>>749629946Why do the rich do nothing but show their spite for the rest of humanity so blatantly right now?
>>749628341I love beautiful graphics, but there's little correlation between the power of the hardware and the quality of the game.
>>749629631lmaodo zoomers really?
>>749628821>>749628839>>749628976>>749629804>>749630805retards>>749631528naive
>>749629302Ironic
>>749628341is there even a point going beyond 3D? 3D itself began the slide of visual immersiveness > gameplay design, so ask yourself if "technological advances" for something as useless in as videogames is really a problem. Making a game 3D doesn't automatically make a game fun or well-designed.>we need to go HIGHER and MORE immersive, with a FULL SUITE of 3D shaders and andwell hold the fuck up. that shit hasn't expanded videogame design as a craft.
This sucks for faggots who already bought those cards, because they basically lost warranty.
>>749628341Yup. SI has brought us to the pinnacle of gaming graphics. DLSS 5 is basically real life. Now it's just a matter of optimization to that streaming services will be able to deliver good results to their gamer customers.
Xbox has collapsed. Playstation will collapse. PC gaymen will collapse.Only Nintendo will survive due to being the cheapest way to get into gaymen. Buy a Switch 2 now.
>>749631732*AI. Don't be an Idi Armin cocksucker.
>mfw 3060 12gb
>>749631732don't ever post again. your input is worthless
>>749631873
>>749631456what you gonna do about it? thats right, nothing
>>749631789PS5 costs 200 bucks in japan
>>749629946People can't afford it. They're continually trying to upsell a market in which there are less and less decent wages year-on-year. They can bitch into the wind all they want, its not going to magically give poor people enough money to keep spending it. The age of cheap credit is long gone.
>>749631924don't you have some engagement bait to subsidize with your view time, contrarian npc? i hear asmon is attracting you subhumans in droves
>>749629631what kind of sloppa model do i need to make shit like that
>>749630880All your settings will probably reset constantly and it’ll close after being afk for 30 seconds, just to think of two things
>>749631716Well, good thing 5090's use a reliable, battle hardened power delivery connector isn't it?
>>749628341By "technological advances" this moron means "more prettier grafixes". The things that actually matter in a video game have barely inched forward because of retards who were easily amused by slight increases in fidelity over the last twenty years, i.e. PCmutts.
And here I am with a GTX 1660 SUPER. The poor thing it's showing its age.
>>749632016A gun in your mouth
>>749629631You probably mean 1990 - 2002
>>749632034They are reliably melting for sure. It's retarded design.
>>749632043>By "technological advances" this moron means "more prettier grafixes". The things that actually matter in a video game have barely inched forward because of retards who were easily amused by slight increases in fidelity over the last twenty yearsExactly.
>>749630880What isn't.>latency>usage limits>can't do shit if you're offline>forced monthly paymentsThose reasons were what killed Stadia, and Luna's fate won't be any different. Doomers may claim cloud gaming will be the forced future, but is simply too impractical to be of any use except maybe in some European and US cities. Everywhere else, the internet is simply too shitty to use cloud gaming. It'll flop diastrously.
>>749627991Samsung just sold their AI stocks.So unironically a few more months.USL is king of computer science and engineering.It's something marketers or jensen will tell you
>>749632243Risking that is still the better and smarter choice than buying a radeon paperweight.
>>749632013>retarded NPC babblingTeapot, meet kettle.
>>749630880We already have very little privacy as it is, but would you feel comfortable with companies data harvesting everything you are doing on a PC?
>>749632314nah it is different this time
>>749631874You're not the boss of me now and you're not so big.
Name a single game worth playing that my RX 580 won't run.
Barely anyone bought a 5090 any ways and people truly in the market for one bought one near release. This is like a bunch of broke dudes in early clapped out Dodges bitching that Ferrari is phasing out the v12 cars. You where never in the market for one. Some dudes still running a 3000 series going how they where oh so close to getting a 5090. Sure... and on some level maybe the Nvidia fan boys will wake up to how Nvidia has been pissing on them for years.
>>749632407I have Windows 11
>>749632426Nah. It won't be. Cloud computing can only work in major cities that have the internet infrastructure to support it, but cities aren't the entire world and when you go out to more remote areas then the internet turns into utter shit.I'm on Starlink because I live in an area like that, and aside from Starlink the only other offers were such shit plans with hard data caps that a cloud PC would probably blow through that datacap in a day or 2. These people have their heads in the utter clouds because they have no idea what it is like to live outside of a major city.
>>749632472trick question amdjeet
And nothing of value was lost.
>>749632589Who cares about peasants in bumfucklandia? Nobody is who as they aren't buying new gpus now so they aren't part of the market anyway.
>>749632405you will not be missed when you die, and the thread would be better off if an AI posted instead of you with your generic xitter comebacks
>>749632464I am because you know your posts are garbage.
I'm just going to hire a couple of hood niggas to break into your home and steal your GPU.
>>749629946I have Amazon Prime and Luna for free of charge from my internet provider for next 2 years but i'm still not using it lol.
>>749632426People like you said the same thing about Stadia, EGS, NFTs and the "metaverse", and were proven wrong all those times. Luna already failed to replace Steam, its original goal. All of Amazon's games failed disastrously. The bald fuck will fail again.
>>749632160Which is also bullshit. That’s like Commander Keen to Halo.
>>749632160From -5000 to 5000. Zero progress has been made.
>>749628821>Hopefully AAA studios die and game development falls back into the hands of hobbyistsfixed that for you
Cloud gaming will work this time guys!
>>749632650Oh, look, a denizen of "the party of love and tolerance". The moment someone gets beneath your thin skin you immediately try to threaten and yearn for murder, like all wokeshlts. Go back to /d/, where freaks like you belong.
>>749630182>How are they going to prevent independent developers and smaller studios from doing the rational thingBribe devs with money. It's what NJudea has done every time they launch new techIndies will continue to be no name studios with the occasional exception a la Minecraft or Amogus
>>749630814Voodoo2 was $2998800GTX was $599Try again
>>749631675You didn’t name one “advance” from the last 10 years that made games better though. (you can’t)The problem isn’t hardware.
>>749631456>The rest of humanity in question:
>>749632856GPU exists since 1990 anon
>>749632913you got clocked as an npc just on the basis of your lack of intelligence, amerigoyim immune to this us vs them psyop you're so addicted to btw, im not an amerigolem
>>749632863That's where we're going, given the looks of it. Sony nuked itself, Xbox is still reeling from the wokeshit infestation, Ubisoft is half-dead and being devoured by the chinks.Even EA's future is uncertain, given the Saudis are hesitating on the deal.
>>749633065I just get rocknet installed. what gpu?
>>749632924*$2999*$5999
>>749632924man I wish computers were that cheap
>>749633117Oh, so you’re just being retarded.
>>749633080>I'm immune to us/them shit>Heh, fucking American.NTA but you're a fucking clown mate.
>>749633149>2 MB RAMmoneybags over here
>>749633080>hurr durr joos badI'd worry more for the mooslems if I were you. They will eat you once they're in power and you're their 'abd.
>>749633150You get the idea anon.
>>749629631
>>749630970>>749630246>h-heh it's not going to last! You'll be miserable!why are you NEETs always want everyone on your level? To feel superior for once?
>rosebud!;!;!;!;!life is so easy
>>749627868i've truly been BTFOt. waitfag
>>749629946Tik tok.
I miss planning, preparing and comparing new components i was going to buy, bros. Sometimes it kept me entertained for weeks, until i finally bought the thing.
>>749629946>dude selling the next thingamagig warns everyone in the future everyone will use said thingamagigyou guys aren't too bright. That's all marketing stunts. Cloud is never going to work.
>>749627663ConsoleChads won again
>>749633415It’s good enough for Sony movie games. They don’t even require input half the time.
>>749633443Did you even see current console prices ?
>>749633443How much is a PS5 now vs launch?
Based.t. 2060 Chad
>>7496335616 or 12
>>749629946People would just quit gaming rather than participate in the overpriced landscape they're hypothesizing
>>749628074That it was overkill for emulating old games and playing indie games, that my 4070ti super would keep doing the trick. I regret not getting a 5080 when they were cheaper though, I've seen too many horror stories with 5090s and the horrible RMA you get despite overpaying, especially these days.
>>749633289They think they're "edgy" by blackpilling people and sharing the misery they feel. In truth they're nothing but sad sacks of shit who spam these shit threads, in desperate attempts to give their worthless lives meaning.
>>74963358612. It still is enough
>>749628341that's a good thing
>>749633609It isn't just gaming. We are heading towards a future where people are just checking out completely in general. No Job. No Hobbies. Just doing nothing all day until the sweet release of death.
>>749633712that's me now! I can pivot to being a hipster.
>>749633757nice, and remember. It's always cool to be dour and unsociable.
Fuck, at least I got a Deck in 2023 when it was reasonably priced. Is there anything out now that's worthwhile that won't run on it?
I think they're delusional.First of all it's all subsidized so it relies entirely on the taxpayer's willingness to keep throwing money at them which we know rarely lasts more than a few election cycles.Secondly the PC hardware business is $330 billion dollars a year, gaming accounts for $70 billion dollars. They'd be giving up on a $70 billion dollar industry to anyone who can make cards that are within the range of the last 3-4 gens.Thirdly the chinese are undercutting their frontier models every few months with an open source release. If their government decides to subsidize graphicis hardware undercutters they'd steal that market too.
>>749630151That shit will never work.
Do some of you unironically believe that the only way for games to be better is to make harder to run graphics and sell more expensive hardware? /v/ used to make fun of people like you.
>>749633712Not my problem. I have too many hobbies and not enough time.
>>749627663Even if I were the richest man on the planet, I would never have bought a 5090.
>>749634115The brightside of this is that developers will make games with lower requirements so more people can run it. 2000 series cards can still run modern 2026 games (it looks like shit but it runs 60+)
>>749634183You would've bought RTX PRO 6000 instead.
>>749627663Nah, I’m glad I got mine at MSRP in early 2025. You missed the party. lol! *Pats my ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 OC*
We still live with the mindset you HAVE to upgrade. Maybe 20 years ago yeah you had to buy a new video card every 2-4 years to run games but now you can use 8 year old cards to run games. It's fine if graphics plateau my concern is availability
>>749634336pat the power connector while you're at it
>>749633058That's their foot soldiers you clown. He's replacing you with them.
>>749629631I prefer getting raped by BWC chads.
>>749631456When was the last time society went out and killed them? 400 years ago? yes there are isolated heroes that kill low level patsies of the elite but the actual members haven't been harmed in a very long time.
>>749627663How long till my 4080 dies bros?
That feel whenRTX 50909850X3D64GB DDR5Card was $2700 now I feel obligated to find a way to monetize the AI slop generating power I have.
>>749634425You know it has a built-in monitor sensor. Plus, my PSU is ATX 3.1 with a premium power connector. No problems for almost two years. Cope.
>>749632314>but is simply too impractical to be of any use except maybe in some European and US cities.It's impractical everywhere, Anon.>your controller polling is at best 1ms>the input then has to be processed by your pc, at best another 1ms>has to be sent to the network>the server receives it>renders the new frame>encode the video frame>sends the video frame>your pc receives the encoded frame>decodes it>new frameI highly doubt servers can do all that in reliably less than 16,66ms every time, with no hiccups.
AMD won
>>749634028>taxpayer's willingnesslolThe taxpayer has zero say in where the money goes or what policies are enforced all of that is handled by the money printer
The people who can't make websites react reliably in under five to ten seconds despite it being kilobytes of text and images are now telling us they're going to be piping gigabytes of data in milliseconds.lmao
>>749628748Yup. Spawn killing and chilling.
>>749629408>5070 TI
>>749634683Not strictly true. There's competing factions of where that money ought to go that want it for themselves.It's more a knockon effect of voting rather than the main cause though.
>>749634578Not sure why your argument against it is "the service will be bad" do you think they care about that? Things have been enshitified for longer than you've been alive. Yes cloud shit will be terrible and inferior in everyday and that is a price they are willing to pay to ensure you can no longer criticize Israel online.
>>749634454The commie plague from last century killed a lot of people, some of which you'd consider rich.It did not end well. All they did was create a new caste, only with additional political power besides the monetary one, and those tyrants got their due punishment in the 80s and 90s.Trying to kill people because they have more than you ls the reason we spent millennia in caves, never building a damn thing, only raping, killing and eating each other.
>>749634782>do you think they care about that?Gee anon it sure worked wonders with Stadia!
>I'll just wait for the retarded crypto bubble to burst before upgradingThese are actual thoughts that ran through my head. I can get TWO used cars for the price of a 5090 now. Nice cars at that.
Aren't NVIDIA GPUs like yearly CoD releases at this point? 5090 is like last years black ops
>>749627868Yep.T. waitfag still on a RTX 2060 Super
>>749634792Well I hope on the day the hordes turn violent your jewish master extends his hand down into the slum you inhabit and pulls you to safety. It would be terrible for a shill like you to have to be left alone with those that want your owner dead.The 'rich' do nothing for society. The problems you mention are because jews did jewish things to other jews. Society didn't rid themselves of a problem then but were simply useful idiots. Regardless I would prefer the elites dead even if nothing changed, at least a few less children would be raped to death.
>>749633086All those companies can die and absolutely nothing will change. A hundred more can die and nothing will change. You are monumentally stupid if you think people with money are just going to give up on using video games to make more money.
>>749634870You have brain damage yes? Stadia was competing with your PC. Now can you rub a brain cell long enough to think what happens when you can't replace your pc and the stadia is your only option?
>>749633149>grossly overpriced even back in the day>2 megs, which was a fuckton of memory in the '80s, when 128kb was a lot of memoryNot sure who you're trying to trick here
>>749634891You can get 5 used motorcycles.
>>749634573two weeks.... mark my words......
You hear that? Its the laugh of the consoles making its return as PCs go back to being ridiculously expensive for gaming.
>>749635196>consolesThey'll be thin-client garbage. no different from '80s dumb terminalsThey've killed off physical and streamed games (game downloads as you play, the bits you haven't seen aren't downloaded) are not out of the menu, making piracy close to impossible
So is my 9070 XT actually future-proofed? For the rest of my life?
>>749630346>tfw I went straight from a 4mb Voodoo 1 to a 256mb 6800gt
>>749635256Yeah i'm sure people are going to pay console prices for what amounts to less horsepower than their fucking phone.
>>749628074I didn't want to buy a 1500w PSU. Plus they were all sold out milliseconds after they stocked up and by then it was already being scalped for 3k.
>>749635080I'll have bigger things to worry if suddenly every PC part manufacturer stopped producing PC parts, Anon.Sure I guess in your highly unlikely scenario Stadia is going to win, as if we're not going to have affordable things anymore. It's not like this already happened with cryptocurrencies, nah, this time will be different.TSMC and Hynix are already building more RAM factories btw.
>>749635196Do you think consoles don't use PC components?
>>749629553Yep it's leftists who are making everything expensive and not the tech trillionaires sitting on 90% of the entire wealth.
>>749633480Rent-free.
>>749635440>TSMC and Hynix are already building more RAM factories btw.And all of it is pinky promised purchased by who exactly? Hint: not you or anyone selling to you
>>749635396It's either that or the highway goy
>>749633614I had a 5080 also. Great card. I got the 5090 for AI shit but if I were only gaming I’d run with the 5080. Although the rumored 24 GB 5080 would probably make me feel like shit for getting the 16 GB 5080
>>749635634Or just buying chinese.They're to this day ripping out and selling chips from 1980s shit.
>>749629553>>hating dlsslop is leftism nowYes, can't manipulate the proletariat if the proletariat is a machine, leftists hate that.
>>749635196consolefags are so fucking stupidthe PS5 pro is selling for $1200 btw
You hear that?It's the sound of the PS5 fans not spinning up under load.
>>749627868I waitfaged until about 2 years ago. Got myself a 4070 in my rig. I'm good for now. In a few years maybe I will upgrade to a 5080.
>>749630880Gee, I wonder.
>>749627663Isn't the 5080 better though?
>>749635707We can never win. The super series were already supposed to release before the AI boom started and we should have gotten the 5080S with 24gb using 3gb chiplets instead of 2 in January this year. At least you got your 5090 that you actually needed before it got to nearly $6000.
>>749634528That's easy. You sell the 5090.
>>749635589Anon I get that for your life to get any value you need to bring everyone down to your NEET standards, but it's just not going to happen. Manufacturers aren't some retards that suddenly decide to ignore consumer demands (which includes companies and workplaces btw, something where an hypotethically flawless cloud migration would take years but you don't know about it since you never worked a day in your life).
>>749636214>Manufacturers aren't some retards that suddenly decide to ignore consumer demandsWhen businesses get fuck you amounts of money off the guvmint, they most certainly do
>>749629408
>>749630880Oh man, you mean in addition to needing to pay an exorbitant monthly fee to use a computer, I get the benefit of putting up with latency issues when playing offline games, all without any expectation of privacy? What next, does an amazon rep come to live with me and track my every move personally?
>>749634692clever
>>749636334so Samsung, Hynix and TSMC (all three not located in USA) are receiving gubmint money to sell HBMs to AI datacenters in USA, despite the datacenters already paying for it and having contractual obligations to do so?Are you retarded?
>>749636594the rep will come in a cool motorized cage on wheels
>>749627868waitfags have now become the raped
>>749636686>AI corpos receive unlimited funding>spills over to chip makersDo you lack even the slightest bit of foresight to imagine where the cash flows?
>>749636047As a 5080 owner I feel so cucked when I play around with AI. 16gb is not nearly enough.
>>749636214>something where an hypotethically flawless cloud migration would take yearsMost of the people making decisions in companies and workplaces don't give a shit, they just see new thing and immediately go>we need to migrate everything to new thing, we can't be left behind!The best part is when they do it and the new thing ends up being infinitely worse (like all the people who had to implement it told them it would be) and then they act clueless and pretend that they weren't the ones who demanded it be changed in the first place.Had this happen countless times at my last workplace, it was infuriating.
>>749635720nigga it's all chinese
>>749636816Well soon you might (still just a rumor, just like the supers were lmao) get the same card but with a bit more ram! Leather Jacket man wants you to buy a RTX Spark computer for AI you see ;^)Fuck this gay earth.
>>749636778Do I at least get a cattle prod to poke him with while shouting BACK IN THE CAGE, WAGIE?
>>749637016that's a paid subscription add-on
>>749632160my child.1990: VGA graphics and 33mhz 486s2002: Geforce 4 Ti and 3GHz hyperthreaded Pentium 4sThe 90s were the fastest moving decade in home computing.
>>749628341This isn't an inflection point. This is a collapse. Consumer personal computing is going to go extinct.
>>749629946no crying in the casino
>>749632924Back then 599 got you a car or a downpayment on a home.Cope more.
>>749637141My 4 Ti fried on HL2 and then I had a Radeon 9600, now that was a card.And fuck hyperthreading.
>>749633360>got to live during the based era of history>probably going to die before the corporate hellscape reaches it's peakuncs stay winning
>>749635801Still cheaper then a PC lmao
>>749637251No? You can build a 4060ti PC for less than $1000.
>>749635801>>749635451Not NintendosThe only console that matters
>>749627663Please Chairman Xi you can hear me, please save me
>>749637370I didn't even consider nintendo. Recently they've just been selling mobile phones or some shit.
>the only positive of a 5090 is the vram>people still actually think they're worth buyingAre they retarded? If I had one i'd sell it in a heartbeat.You can get 24gb vram cards for like $650 used and if you're going to spend that kind of money and get raped on overinflated hardware prices you can get a Mac Studio with 96gb unified memory at the same price. (or 256gb at twice that)Sure it'd be slower than running two 5090s but you'd have actual context worth a damn.
>>749627663no most of the best games ever made can be played on an old office pc
>>749627663It's not like the vast majority of people were willing/able to shell out almost for a GPU anyway.
3060Ti chads @wwt
>>749637251PS5 digital licenses are $90PC games are free
>>749628341We're set for graphics for a while, we don't need a bunch of new visual gimmicks every year, like GPUs are a goddamn smart phone. The western industry needs a complete reboot on how they handle game development from top-to-bottom, and in the meantime just keep what we've got going, and polish the shit out of that. The visual arms race was going to hit a ceiling at some point anyway, and if you compare something like Arkham Knight to something released today, graphics haven't improved THAT fucking much in over a decade.
Can you get a 5000 card when you only have DDR4 RAM or will it bottleneck to hard?
>>749627663...but I already have a 5090.
>>749637460>You can get 24gb vram cards for like $650 usedare you living in 2023? a 3090 goes for $1500 on the used market.
>>749627991The AI is getting out of hand. And it's fucking up big companies rn.
>>749637782>suddenly BSoDswhat now maggot
>>749637813Around $1200-$1500. That said he's right about the macs but they have preprocessing issues.It's all moot for gaming though it's just for AI gen.
The RTX 5090 is almost 2 years old. Don't they have better chipsets by now for AI? Also I guess this means there won't be a RTX 6090.
>>749637460How do Macs do with local agents anyway, got anything about that?
>>749632924$619 and $1014 respectively.
>>749638116Use one of my other gaming PCs and order another one. I already shifted away from local AI to using large frontier models through NanoGPT anyway.
>>749627663China. Please. Just use AI, crack open the fucking Ngreedia 5090 and clone the fuck out of it. Reverse engineering the drivers shouldn't be difficult either nowadays so perfect DirectX and Vulkan support can't be that hard.What is orange man supposed to do, start another war he can't win?
>>749638576They'd have to invade Taiwan for that. Apple propelled them but some things stayed out of reach.
>>749638671As weak as the USA is right now thanks to orange man's most retarded decisions to make the western world's economy die for Israel, this is the perfect time for China to take back Taiwan.
>>749630131>to play games onI used it to make slop on Youtube and Tiktok/instagram. It paid for itself within a year and then some.
>>749638265I was called a doomer for saying for the past year that there will A) never be a 6090 or B) the 6090 they release will be nerfed significantly compared to what the 5090 and previous 90-series were in their lines. Now it’s clear I was correct. Jensen wants to sell to data centers and stream to goymers. A 32 GB 5090 is going to be worth like 20 grand soon.
>>749638671>>749638804God please, let it happen so the US and China nuke each other out. Sick of superpowers.
>>749636214>Manufacturers aren't some retards that suddenly decide to ignore consumer demandsSo then why are they?
>>749638834It seems like hardware tech is stagnant. So it seems like you will be right.
>>749628341Zoomers really need to kill themselves. You are all totally worthless little fragile anklestabbers and you get in the way of anyone who isn't an absolute retard.
>>749638804Invading Taiwan is endgame. Afterwards everyone's fucked.
>>749629408>mfw got a 5090
How do I organize a terrorist group to go and destroy AI data centers?I don't want the cloud gaming future to come to pass.
I don't get it. That means they'll have to make games for current hardware, not for future hardware. How is this not a complete victory?
>>749640902>kill current hardware with "forced updates">kill current games/old games somehow and destroy them>rent shit if you want to play anything at allthis is what is going to happen
>>749633609there are people buying $40-60 skins in overwatch, never underestimate the lack of standards from gamers
So? Everyone with a 20+ generatiol card is now set flr life.
>>749641062>kill current hardware with "forced updates" You lost me on the first point. All Nvidia drivers I download from their site and Windows hasn't been allowed to update without my permission for years?
>>749641340yeah i'm also been using windows 95 without updatingi'm having a blast
>>749641436But I can just select what I download.
>>749639221ikr! I got it at MSRP!
>>749639232Terrorism is faggy and ineffective. Be a cyberpunk, be ungovernable.
>there will never be another high end flagship consumer GPU because coomers want to generate porn and goymers want to put zany character crossovers in games like children and indians need to be able to codeThe industry is so ruined lmao just pull the plug.
>>749641816Sounds like you're just lazy lol
>>749628539>amdif you missed the 6800xt and 9070xtrest in piss my dude lol
>>749641816Anon just use claude to set up your own gpu factory
>>749641865I'm lazy how? should i build my own top of the line 5090 or 6090 that just won't exist from scratch?
>>749627663you dont need a 5090 to play PC games
>>749641937You still haven't posted a link to the game you're working on. Until then, I reiterate: Lazy
>>749631456This is a lamer take than Occupy Wall Street.
>>749642002But i didn't mention that? i mentioned how GPUs and general high end gaming hardware is dying
>>749627663no game requires a 5090, it's for AI and workstation shit
>>749642069Oh, so you're going to criticise the state of the environment while doing absolutely nothing to affect change? Okay. I see what type of person you are.
>>749628341The West has fallen
>>749642140>no game requires a 5090Unreal Engine 5 says hi
>>749641816>AI will make all videogames evarrr yesss>*gets priced out of gaming by their own prompting*hilarious shit really. just prompt a cheaper GPU lole
>>749628341GPU architectures are designed around 5-6 years in advanced, if Nvidia pivoted last year there's still 2 GPU generations where Nvidia have invested billions into developing both the architecture and the GPU designs.
>>749642141How does another game being made change the pc hardware situation? if all it took was games being made then this situation wouldn't be happening at all.Unless you're so subhumanly retarded that you think nvidia is just waiting for one more game to be made before they start caring about consumer hardware again
>>749642176Or maybe optimize games like gen x did lol
>>749638870Are you really stupid enough to think that it wouldn't take the rest of you useless faggots with it? Do you really think it would just be business as usual if the world's two largest economies nuked each other?
>>749642210Sure just hire white guys again instead of mystery meats and women.
>>749642160I can run any UE5 game just fine on my 6950XT, and that's 2 generations old now.
>>749642379Seems to be the direction Amazon and Microsoft are headed since Trump ended H1B visas. I think hiring white men is a great idea.
>>749642210no but you don't understand. learning computer science, how to code manually, how to cache assets and file formats is le luddite shit
>>749642413>uh well if I set all the settings to low and use the maximum slop cope settings I can get 5fpsVery good kid
>>749642462~75fps in STALKER 2 high settings without framegen
>Dumbasses dont understand chip binning"broken" chips will ALWAYS be made into gpus dipshitsBecause they can be sold for the ridiculous tens of thousands now due to market demand the 5090s are going to be exclusively sold as pros and the broken "5090s" will be made into 5080sThere is literally nothing to see here, this isnt the "end of gaming"
>7800X3D - $330>2x32g6000mts32csGSkill - $210>PNY XLR8 4080 Super - $900Building in December 2023, Priceless
Ehr, western society is -mostly- economically fucked at this point beyond repair anyway. If you haven't gone full gaming-hermit in the last decade this hobby was never for (You) anyway.
>>749628341Oh no, they'll start making 1990s quality games again like Thief, Majora's Mask, and Final Fantasy 8 again. Its over. Gaming is dead.
>>749629408>got my 7900xtx years ago
>>749629408>Get a 9070 GRE for just under MSRP>Everyone calls me a cuck and a faggot>MSRP the next week>Thirty bucks over the week after>Runs better than my old card and never crests 60C
>>749641436Been using Windows 10 that hasn't been updated past 2021, the 21h2 version. Not a single issue. I've even gone as far as to modify my UI to give it the Windows 7 look and my other, much older backup PC still runs windows 7.
>>749642823Those kinds of games made today need a 4090 and 3TB of storage
>>749629946I find it interesting how retards screech over communism and "muh private property" yet a blind eye is turned to this. If this happened in China people would be up in arms denouncing even the idea of it.BUT IT'S OKAY IF IT HAPPENS IN DA WESTERN CAPITALIST CUNTRIES AMIRITE?1?1MASS SURVEILLANCE IN CHINA BAD BECAUSE CCP, MASS SURVEILLANCE IN USA AND UK GOOD BECAUSE PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATIONS HELPING DA POLICE FIND DA GUY WHO SMOKED WEEDBAD THING IN COMMUNISM = BADBAD THING IN CAPITALISM = GOOD, ACTUALLY (because mental gymnastics)Mass surveillance is a bad thing to begin with and all the arguments of fighting terrorism and protecting children are forms of emotional manipulation.So many fools... easily duped by propaganda.
>>749642907Pearls before the swine.
>>749627663I managed to snag 9 of them in September of last year at 2000 (MSRP). All FEs. Sold 2, have 2 in PCs, and the remaining I'm waiting to see how high they'll go. Presumably higher now. Can't wait to flip these lmfao.
>>749642907But anon we're doing it to protect children unlike China which uses it to silence and kill those that disagree with the goverment
>>749642907>f this happened in ChinaThis has happened in China. Years ago. Keep up.
>>749629946>force you toGiven the choice between rentcucking and daily driving an Apple II, I'd run retro hardware for the rest of my life gladly. There is no limit to the depravity I would tolerate before renting a computer from the cloud.
>>749642838>amd garbonobody care faggot
The only price-leap I kinda didn't get ahead of was harddrive space. Got plenty of RAM a good GPU, but only 10 TB or storage. Might have dropped the ball on that one.
>>749642823If this was made in a modern engine it would have higher requirements than Crysis
>>749643204How much CP do you really need to hoard that 10 TB isn't enough?
>>749643257He doesnt, hes just trying to flex like a homo
>>749643094And what would be your excuse when protecting children (which we all know is a massive lie thanks to Jeffrey Epstein) turns into silencing dissent and forced disappearances?What will be your excuse when the mark of the beast comes? Are you going to try to pull mental gymnastics by saying that it's God working in mysterious ways and that accepting it fights communism while somehow being God's will? The Bible clearly says to not be deceived yet people are mindlessly allowing themselves to be fooled by the Epstein class with blatant propaganda.Don't say that you're not going to comply over the lockdowns and COVID-19 vaccines (which the later wasn't even mandatory) if you're going to foolishly comply with what the Epstein Class wants.
>>749629631As other anon alluded to, the 8800gtx was probably the biggest jump in graphics hardware ever. The 8000 series advancements rendered everything before it irrelevant, that's how big a leap it was.
>>749635104The Amiga was 500k and then 1mb and the higher priced Amiga's had more. They along with say the Ataria ST were the affordable 16bit and then 32bit computers
On the plus side>Some Chinese company is guaranteed going to pick up consumer GPU tech and it'll be fine in about five yearsBut>My dumbass USA is going to ban it from being shipped to us
The West has fallen
>>749627991Drumpf will fail in the midtermsHe will then go clinically insaneVance takes overNukes Nvidia HQ for not making him even richerJust two more weeks
>>749629946fuck your subscriptions.
>>749631873I got a 5070 12gb with 32gb of RAM
>>749630880its literally fake and gay. one lapse in payment or one system glitch and your everything is fucking gone. who wanna function like that? I sure as hell don't.
>>749643760>Some Chinese company is guaranteed going to pick up consumer GPU tech and it'll be fine in about five yearsWhy would they? they love datacenters too. Their limited steps into the consumer GPU market have so far just been underwhelming production numbers of not genuine flagship models
>>749629408Got a 4070 in 2023 replacing my 1060 gb. I wish I had waited a bit longer to get a TI, but I'm pretty happy with it. If I was fine ambling along with a 1060 for 6 years I'll be fine waiting until 2029 or beyond.>>749630346Yeah. Mass effect came out in 2008 and for PC the minimum spec was 6800 GT or better. Which came out in 2004 April.Crysis minimum GPU was the 6800 GT which again ibid, just 2007.For comparison's sake imagine if a game released in 2027 that had a 4080 as a minimum GPU requirement.
>>749633414my nigga. its the best, and when you get it you pick a chill day out to assemble it yourself
>>749635196consoles are fuggin ded. this might as well be THE last gen
>>749629408>RX 9070 XT when it was $600
>>749632924>>749633150That's just the graphics card. Computers used to cost $10,000
>>749644671I was a noob to building PCs and i got the normal 9070 instead of the XT version at a good price before everything went up, did I still make it?
>>749645185the XT is way stronger but yeah you good, beats the 5070, XT beats the 5070ti.
>>749627991Currently imploding.
>>749627663gtx 1060 1070 1080 1080 ti rx 6600xt/6700xt rx 7600/xt 7700/xt and 9060 xt /9070 xt all play games fine lol
>buy a 4070 super in 2024 for $600 after using a 1060 6gb since 2017>"NOOOOO YOU FUCKING RETARD THE 50XX SERIES IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER YOU HAVE TO WAAAAIIIIT"lovingeverylaugh
>>749627868Gonna laugh my ass off when yours dies and you can't get a replacement since none exist.
>>749627868>the universe always finds a way to make you wrongwhy though
>>749627663
So what would you guys do?Sell your GPUs to gamers, one at a time, and deal with retailers, customer complaints, tech journos and a whole bunch of other coordination and quality assurance work.Or sell your GPUs to datacenters in bulk, a thousand at a time, straight from the factories, minimal complaining, no marketing or fancy box designs or annoying journos running benchmarks and minimal coordination needed.I'm not saying I like the option Nvidia have gone with, but I understand it. Like from a business perspective.
>>749628341Oh no, not the graphics. Not the hecking graphics. What am I ever gonna do without the 2026 graphics? Fuck I’m stuck with 2019 graphics this is fucking torture!
>>749627663My 3070 is gonna remain perfectly fine to play games with since I don't even have monitors for more than 1080p to begin with and don't plan on getting any anytime soon, so...meh.Could probably stand to upgrade my CPU tho that shits like 7 years old by now lmao.
>>749645950I'm not a demonic money obsessed (crypto)jew and I want said 'people' dead so I wouldn't sell to them. Or I would give them a taste of their own medicine and plant bombs in the GPUs sent to the jewish centers and detonate them.
>>749643760>>My dumbass USA is going to ban it from being shipped to usTribalism is the downfall of empires.
I thought I was fucking retarded when I bought a 4090 at MSRP years ago. Looking like I'll be keeping this thing for a long, long time.
>>749643760>Some Chinese company is guaranteed going to pick up consumer GPU tech and it'll be fine in about five yearsnot gonna happen, everEUV export to China is banned and soon DUV exports and maintenance will be banned tooThere is no way for china to advance their chip production at all
>>749646125Dont worry buying a xx90 gpu at msrp is retarded enough
>>749646249They can go back to stealing everything instead of purchasing it
>>749629302i hate dlss5 and i voted for trump
>>749631981>People can't afford itthey for sure can afford $20/month
>>749645950I would continue selling to my customers and making more money than I knew what to do with, rather than contribute to the downfall of my community just so that I can get in with a group of freaks who want to control all of society for their benefit just so I can have enough money to run human trafficking rings through third world countries or whatever you would do when you are a degenerate with enough money to run a small country and no care for anything but yourself.
>>749646330Thats not how it worksThese machines are so advanced and proprietary only ONE company(ASML) in the entire world makes themIf it was easy to replicate or steal everyone would have already been doing it years agoChina is stuck on 7nm for ever and soon their yields of even that will dwindle as the machines break downChinese tech industry is dying
>>749634927>mfw 4770k and 980get on my level fag.Also, dunno why people are losing their panties when a high-end PC from 2018 can run all the good games just fine.
>>749627663>considering upgrading my 3070>9070xt is about the price of a 5070, more vram and more performance>but shittier upscaling a memeframes>next ayymd gen will probably get better upscaling and memeframes that won't be retrocompatible with actual aymmd cardsfuck njewdia tho
>>749627663PC gaming's been dead for 20 years
>>749646646So I guess this company never hired any jews or Chinese then? Surprised they're allowed to exist.
>>749629631>consoletoids unironically believe thatAYYY LMAO.nigger, PC had insane leaps from 85 to 90 and another bunch of crazy leaps to 90 to 95, by 96 consoles were already completely smoked.
>>749627663You faggot, PC gaming is going to enter another golden age. All the normies and thirdies won't be able to afford PCs, so only the true hardcore turbo geek faggot losers will play PC games, and the power vacuum left by all the big publishers dipping out forever, will be filled by indie developers comprised of true hardcore turbo geek faggot losers.It's the fucking golden age, son! RIP PC gaming indeed, burn the old, and let the Phoenix rise from the ashes!
>>749628539>only if you really really really cared about ray tracing gimmicks...What about image quality? FSR4 is still garbage against DLSS transformer, until devs stop drinking the TAA koolaid and go back to proper rendering again.
>>749647054>the market will shrink and every single franchise you knew and loved will balk from PC to chase after the money. can't you see how great that is?retard
>>749647085AMD has an easy win here. They just need FSR to beat DLSS 4 and not go full retard like DLSS 5 did and they'll win over a lot of people
>>749646515Your weird sense of self-sacrifice is odd. If your community exists solely because of your products, you don't have a community, you have a cult. And why would you not want to be high in the nobility that aim to control the world? At best you gain good standing with them and a seat at whatever council + immunity to most of their laws (as you said, degenerate shit) and at worst you have customers who pay top dollar.
>>749647232Isn't going to happen with their FSR focus being frame-gen shit now for consoles to run a 40fps game at 60fps with worse input lag.
>>749647232AMD has nothing but losses. Their GPUs barely work and their drivers live up to the horrid mess they are rumored to be.
>>749647106and go where?? consoles?? AYYY LMAO.also, there will never ever be exclusives again, not while ghidra and AI exists.
>>749628683>These cards are only good for CUDA and NVENC. If all you do is play vidya, you should just get an AMD card.you shouldn't use nvenc
The only real downside here is the used market is essentially "done" now for GPUs. Everyone with a 20-something series is pretty much never going to have to upgrade again to play games relatively well. If you're over the 20-gen you're pretty much set.
>>749647329>this nigger still on Jeetdows
>>749634578 hic hic
>>749647264It's not self-sacrifice, hurting the world around me hurts myself, especially when I contribute to it knowingly getting worse, doing things that benefit the world and my community helps me. There is nothing I could do either way to stop someone like Peter Thiel, all he would do is let me go along for the ride either way, at least I could not give him everything he wants, and I want nothing he has to give that I wouldn't have otherwise. You are just a pure materialist degenerate hedonist.
>>749629408nigga that's not the issuethe issue is that there is no foreseeable solution to this problem that doesn't involve a complete global economy meltdownok you got yours now, but what in 5 yearsnigger were gonna end renting a screen that just shows you a video stream or somethingor shits the feed directly into your optic never but same shit
boys my 5090 fucking melted todayim stuck on a fucking 980 right now
>>749628341You WILL play the 2D pixel graphics nostalgiaslop and you WILL love it.
>>749636214kek anon made you so mad you started coping about wageslaving. Just close the tab.
>>749647106>All those franchises you knew and loved that got the life raped out of them will finally know peace DO YOU SEE IT?! HOW ABOUT YOU LISTEN INSTEAD?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3qCIrToloThey didn't massacre my boy, they raped him like George Lucas and Steven Spielberg on Indiana Jones, and left his corpse to rot in the nearest ditch.Let it all burn.
>>749633289they're completely open about wanting to regulate the shit out of it(for muh kids), they're just waiting for the right politician to enter officeoptimism is a plague, you'll just keep coping while they keep inching toward it
>>749647438Good for you. If you think altruism in the western world is a good thing then you are free to continue maintaining the system that is currently screwing you out of most of life's experiences.I'd personally prefer rivaling a country's economy while spending my days on a yacht getting rimmed by lingerie models and eating steak. You can call me a hedonist all you want but you get 80ish years on this planet and I'd rather see how many models I could impregnate in that time than pretend I'm serving a community that exists only to create monsters - like myself.
>>749647673Sounds like an empty, repulsive existence to me, but you do you I guess, the ecosystem needs parasites apparently.
>>749647448>American thinks the world economy will collapse just because his standard of living will go down a little bitomega cope
>>749647745Fine by me. Depending on how old you are at the moment we might both live to see if your moral grandstanding erodes when confronted.
>>749647448>nigger were gonna end renting a screen that just shows you a video stream or somethingWanna ask Nvidia or Xbox how their cloud gaming ventures have fared recently?
>>749634578Good think you don't need less than 16,66ms for movie games on journalist mode with no fail state like basedverine.
>>749647448Well, yeah? That's the goal, isn't it? Either the elite win and humanity is shackled to barely-livable conditions (enshitification is real and it'll get worse with every passing day) while the 1% life like >>749647673 describes. Or the 99% win, we burn the rich and reclaim our lives at whatever quality we can create.Considering most people agree with the safety of the former rather than the risk of the latter I don't see this having a particularly happy ending.
>>749647910Wanna ask Nvidia or Xbox in 10 years when cloud gaming is the only option?
>>749648112forgive me for not believing in your doomer-future prediction
>>749648112Hey, isnt that what you said 20 years ago about onlive?
>>749628341thank god. 250 GB and 32 GB RAM for one game is too much
>>749648151I'm not "predicting" anything. Predictions leave room for doubt.With the introduction of DLSS1 in 2018 Nvidia told the world that the future of computing will be based on machine learning technology. And here we are almost a decade later with DLSS5 and the future of graphical rendering is exactly what they said it would be. It's not a prediction if you dictate what's going to happen and no one can challenge you.If Nvidia come out tomorrow and say that in the next 10 years you'll be streaming your games, you better either hunker down or get ready for game streaming.>>749648174No?
>>749647873Not everybody wants the same things as you, some people actually believe things and aren't grandstanding.
>>749648381True, but forgive my cynicism when I say historically those people rarely post on 4chan.
I just hope someone fills the "retro" niche that our current hardware will become and indies target this relatively static set of hardware for those of us who still want to play games the old way.
>>749634454>When was the last time society went out and killed them?1933-1945
>>749648494The average voice on every modern website is tuned to be the lowest common demoninator, which is a degenerate without standards spouting things they think will give them social points or acting out of shallow, short-term self interest. At the end of it all, you will have nothing and will never gain true satisfaction.
>>749648297>If Nvidia come out tomorrow and say that in the next 10 years you'll be streaming your games, you better either hunker down or get ready for game streamingAnd Nvidia is gonna do this based on.....how well their streaming service is doing?>No?Why lie like this, anon? Or could it be you werent old enough to say anything?
>>749627663>Artificially manufactured shortage>Nvidia investing all its money in Data Centers for circular gainsThere is no FOMO. There is no innovation. Everything done and will be done are anti-consumer practices. Do not fall for the bait and do not get tricked into paying a monthly fee to "rent" the use of a higher end card. Just don't give your money to the GPU industry anymore. They fucked themselves into a corner and want you to pay premium when they control the supply.And lastly, stop engaging in the bait. Start addressing Extremely Low Quality posts.
There are no games worth playing that need a 5090
yeah but frame gen is better now :^)
>>749632346AI is telling me your post about Samsung divesting from AI is incorrect.
>>749628859>DLSS was a tech advance
>>749627991The dominoes are falling
>>749647543Should undervolted and not run DLSS 5, anon. You had it coming
>>749629408>RTX 5080: Hatsune Miku edition
>>749631456Crazy how someone like Peter Thiel isn't bombarded with even 1% of the hatred he deserves, when he's someone who's open belief is that being an evil psychopath is a good.
>>749627663I really BTFO the waitfags. Upgraded from a 1080 to a 5070ti when it was at its lowest MSRP. Got ram when it was cheap. My rig is basically perfect. I just wish I got an extra 2 tb of SSD storage for future proofing, but I still have tons of free space. It feels like making it to a safe zone and looking back at a bunch of dead bodies.
>>749631456controlling people is easier than ever with internet astroturfing. tons of people are heavily influenced by their internet bubble, including people here
>>749627663The appreciation of the value of my PC has far eclipsed any other of my investments>401k>crypto>propertyall of it making way less than if I would've just bought a fuckload of 5090s and RAM
>>749629946Wow, the guy who is renting out servers thinks that you should rent one of his servers. Crazy. >local farmer says buy local Bet you think that is a conspiracy too.
>>749627663>source: we made it the fuck up
>>749651597Is the local farmer using billions of tax payer funds to disrupt the supply of his competition?
>>749628821Arcades are coming back, baby!Get those quarters ready!
>>749647673>I'm going to fuck over everyone around me, so I can get two minutes of asshole mouth sex! This is what humanity truly is, everyone else must be a liar.Literally the battle cry of every brown nation. Especially India.Stay away from white places, please.
Got mine.
>He waited
>>749654629>He buyed
If UE5 didn't exist my secondary PC with a GTX 1660 ti would still be good enough for ultra graphics 60-120fps.
>>749627663>>749627868>>749628074Will just keep waiting for the RTX 6090 regardless.
>>749628341>We're only going backwards from here on out.Good
>Mfw I bought a car instead a year ago.>Now RTX 5090s are more expensive than my car when I bought it.That's just crazy.
>>749629302Amazing how AI slop defenders always out themselves as election tourists or think they can use culture war bait to make election tourists their useful idiots.
>>749627991Nigger shit's so fucked it's going to take down half of the world's banking and economy when it pops. Heck, the current burger president is betting absolutely everything on that shit, even transnaming and said that deadnaming it Ai is acting like a traitor just so the media talks more about Ai in hope people buy more Ai stocks.
>She didn't buy one the moment ram prices started increasing
Meh, I wasn't spending $2000 on one anyways, it's retarded. Good high end GPUs are supposed to cost $650, 750 tops, like the 1080Ti.
>>749627663This is why i refuse to buy any games that a dumb laptop can't run. Ridiculous amount of trouble and expense just to simulate dumb stuff shooting someone in the face, goddamn CoD WaW, MCC and maybe New Vegas is enough for that.Never changing my mind.
>>749627663Drop gaming and find something better in life. It was already infested with woke hollywood jew trannies anyway.
>>749629631This has immense ragebaiting potentialWhat model or site is this from?
>>749627663The world is healing, Nvidia should go back to topping out at the X080ti like they used to and should keep the prices at $2,000 and under.
>>749627991Character.ai just went bankrupt despite previously having a multi-billion valuation because, big surprise, they couldn't figure out how to make that shit profitable.
>industry has more spending power than anon>anon thinks the world should bend around his desiresWhat causes this phenomenal sense of entitlement?
>>749629302>Post about projection is in itself projection
>>749655912>Rules for thee, not for me.Like pottery
>>749627663Damn it feels good to be a PlayStation gamer
>>749655895The real issue was that the retards were trying to sanitize the site to sell it to big tech, big tech caught up and the offers vanished overnight, they tried to keep the show running with subscriptions, despite the large userbase, barely anyone bought one due to the lack of trust after the mass NSFW bans and site exodus years ago.Now they are pretty much done unless Disney buys the entire thing and not just the team and the data.That's why you never mess with gooners, for a business, the only thing worse than receiving hate is target demographics showing indifference to the paid service or product.
>>749629631MIGU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
>>749629362why do you think nvidia bought hugging face retard.
No... I wanted to update.These are my specs
>>749627663Currently Waiting™ with my trusty Ryzen 5600+3080 10GB. Chinks recently ported DLSS frame gen to Ampere and somehow it just works. There's no perceivable latency penalty at all and I didn't notice any artifacting in motion, even at 4x. This black magic shit completely blows FSR 3 frame gen out of the water.
>>749656330Oh please, nobody was buying subscriptions anyway. That's the big weakness of the AI bubble, it's built on the idea that people don't want to pay for a human to make something, but then assumes that they'd be willing to pay for a machine to do it worse.Once that investment capital finally dries up, they're dead in the water.
>>749627663Looking at my MSRP 5090 laughing at the waitfags in this thread.
>over A year ago I built a PC for a friend with the money I wanted to build my PC with >found a ridiculous deal for 64GB of ddr5 6400 cl32 1.4v for $115 and copped >built during sales through October and November, and picked up the rest of the build, several $200 4TB NVMe drives and a 9070XTMy current build would literally cost another 2800 dollars minimum. Fuck, the ram alone is 900 more dollars. My only regret was not going balls to the wall and getting a 5090 when they were coming in and out of stock
>>749657064NovelAI is profitable on subsciptions. Note: it’s also the only one that allows full nsfw freedom. It’s technically against the tos to gen cp or whatever, but they can’t tell if you do and the only thing preventing it is the lack of training data. anyway, dont fuck with people’s porn and they will pay for subs
>>749657384Coomers are retarded, what else is new
>>749627663All this happen because one retard missed a shot
>>749650549Every 5090 owner has it comingIts only a matter of time
>>749658380Lol you wish amd troon.
>>749627663>at the start of 2025 i said to myself i was gonna upgrade pc at the end of 2025 as a reward to myself>mfw
Dont care, I have the flagship AMD card, team red. Anything more just go watch a movie if you want realism
>>749627663>got a steam machine>have a backlog of good old gamesi want to play alice madness returns soon because i never got around to that one and the art looks pretty, i'm still supporting ai because i want a robot wife and i want troons fired and i want the jeets booted when they no longer have value (they're too stupid to deal with ai)
>>749628341>there will no longer be any technological advances in the industry anymore.YES FINALLYHUGE RPGS HUGE RPGS, FUCK GRAPHICSFAGS!
>>749659002>I bought fucking dogshitlolmao
128gb ram5070 ti9950x got my shit just as the prices were hitting the fan. kind of wish I went for a 5080 but I'm content. I snagged that newegg deal in February which had a 5070ti, 128gb ram, and a computer case for like $1700. felt like an idiot buying at the time but now glad looking back
>>749656330Stop using your brain and post "the bubble is popping!!!!" next time
>>749659089ok bro enjoy your aaa slop that you apparently bought your gaming pc for
>>749659002>>749659167You could build a PC thats more powerful and not a closed, limited ecosystem for the money of that box. One of the most useless products
>>749659390>a closed, limited ecosystemin what way, it runs all my steam games, my old non steam games like adventure quest, sillytavern for gooning, my browser, it has a file explorer and look that's identical to windows, what am i missing?
>>749655789>ragebaiting potentialPicking a woman's hobby will never make you one.
>>749630814Why are you making shit up? >Pricing for the GeForce 4 MX460, MX 440 and MX 220 will likely be about $179, $149, and between $99 and $129, respectivelyI was changing my PC and consoles every 2-3 years during those years and each time that was like swapping your rusty village bike for a Ferrari. Next gen word had a meaning back then, now 10 years of progress give you less than 1.
>>749646317Stay mad, poorfag. The RTX 5090 will be ultra-rare and a collector’s item over the next few years.
>>749632589>but cities aren't the entire worldIsolated out of touch tech bros will GASP at this
>>749627663I bought mine in April of 2025.I got the Asus Astral 5090.I hope it lasts me until at least 2030 ;_;
anons are acting real doom-and-gloom over the consumerwhore goyim who pay for garbage, but an important thing to remember is that their lack of TRUE GAMER investment means the moment they check out of vidya they check out for goodeven if the gun-and-ball dudebro takes longer to price out of the market compared to a more prudent customer, winning them back is gonna be way harder (especially in a world with longass production cycles)
Are 5090s going to go up or down in price now that AI jeets will have to spend $15k+ on the pro cards instead of $7k?
>>749657263ikrpicrelated: to waitfags
>getting a super impractical high endYou're both stupid goyim, mid class cards aren't far behind and they cost way less. you don't need xx90 for games at all.
>>749659778Up Up Up. Gamers and AI slop enthusiasts want the RTX 5090 so badly because it can do everything, from gaming to running an AI lab. Yes, the Pro cards can outperform the 5090 in AI workloads, but they’re still poor for gaming. The value of the RTX 5090 will appreciate like crazy.
In the end, time proved Nintendo and the Wii right about not investing into powerful consoles.Having a high end cutting edge gaming machine is going to be something from the past.
>>749627868>waitfags
>>749659918I'd be almost tempted to sell mine if it ever reaches 10k on the used market. Almost
Just get a 9070XT
>>749655895The ceo of character.io moved to disney and now disney is buying itDon't think about this too hard
>>749645851you won't even have a working pc by then
>>749627663>5090CHADs will become an actual elite
>>749633712Can't say I blame them.In the dysopian hellscape they're planning suicide will be the only way to starve the beast.
>>749627663>he didn't buy one when it cost only 8000€lmao enjoy getting finessed by the second hand market losers
>>749637251You have two internet bills.
>>749627663Ever get that feeling that the AI bubble is never going to pop?
What do you need a RTX 5090 for? Every game worth playing can be played on an B580.
>>749628341Finally we get to stop the hardware progression and just get better software instead.
>>749661258>he got tricked by the luddites into thinking it's a bubbleretard
I have a GTX 1070, an intel i5-7500 processor, and 24 gigs of RAMI don't play many games that need more than this and the only thing I am even considering upgrading is my processor
>>749648781Perhaps you are the cynic, not I.
>>749628821LOL LOSTnah man it's still going to be unreal slop but now it's going to be AI sloppa all the way down. Not like I'm going to buy any of that shit.
>>749655912If the consumer can no longer consume your product, than what the fuck is the point of your product?
>>749627663you never needed the extreme high end shit for gaming. Only dumb niggers were actually buying a 5090 just to game.
>>749661426Better be quick. CPUs are soon entering the "price adjustment" clowncar too
>spending thousands on hardware that plays perfectly fine on a console for a fraction of the pricePC gamers are the ultimate goycattle
>>749661546The only raeson I haven't pulled the trigger is because I'm terrified of a hardware change fucking up my ability to play the games I like. I usually have good luck running old games with minimal hassle on Windows 10 so I'm a bit afraid to fuck with it.Also I have no idea what processor would be good.
>>749660180Just get a PS5 rather than get a cucked card
>>749661616>plays perfectly finetop jej, this meme became even more relevant with GTA6
>>749627663>>749627868I'm still on GTX 1650
>>749661718look man i'm replaying GTA V enhanced edition on Xbox Series S and its 60fps and practically perfect. I paid about $200 (equivalent) three years ago. Who's really winning here
>>749627801FPBP
>>749661787>get multi media machine (Xbox)>can't use it to torrent stuff or watch most things I want to watch or browse /v/ and shit post, or to play old gamesConsoles are a great deal for normalfags who don't have niche interests or who don't play niche games but awful if you want to do anything remotely off the beaten path
>>749627663Are things gonna get better before i die of old age or things gonna stay this way forever ?I mean i can afford 10 years old Nvidia Quadro right now.
>>749661843I have a craptop to torrent things on. Point is PCspergs are paying thousands of dollars for a slightly better experience than people paying $200. Thats goycattle 101
>>749627868just gonna keep waiting...
>>749661940To never own a PC? Things will only get worse.
>>749661851If it's any consolation, you can always remember you did this to yourself
>>749627663>RIPleather gook
>>749661851Quit being a sperg and buy AMD
>>749661917Being able to use one device for everything is nice. Like I said, if your interests end at goyball and GTA then a console is better than a PC but if you want to do anything else it is worth it to get a decent PC. Also paying extra for online if you want to play online games adds up to be more expensive than a PC in the long run. And piracy is way less convenient on consoles. If you play don't pay for the subscription and stick to only certain games and shows that are on the console it is worth it to only have a console, but otherwise it is better to have a decent enough PC. But I'm also the type who doesn't really play modern games with only one or two exceptions and don't mind having less frames for those games because I play others way more and use my PC for other things in general like running /tg/ stuff
>>749661787>Who's really winning hereMe apparently, because my 4080 smoked the Xbox, PS4, PS5 and soon, PS6. But hey, enjoy buying the latest console for what I paid 3 years ago, maybe you'll get actual 60fps this time
>>749661851There will eventually be an AI crash, probably within the next 5 years for a lot of different reasons. The most obvious reason is that the money invested into it has zero chance of being recouped. If anything extra parts might flood the market eventually, though it depends if crypto has another spike or not or if it crashes as well
>>749661258It's less of a "bubble" and more of an "amoeba with an endless appetite for data that will swell and grow until it devours everything".
>>749661917Also I forgot to mention I built my PC 8-9 years ago for $1000 and it is this. >>749661426The only added price since then is me adding a bit more ram. I've definitely made up the cost in consoles with the amount of games and shows I have pirated and not having to pay subscription.
>>749662079every time you retards get reminded of the cost of your hobby, you all magically start talking about how "i got x card from 15 years ago and its better than your console!" cope on, I don't believe you and I think you're lying. You paid thousands for a card to play the same games as me, the pain of buyers remorse forces you to lie on the internet.
>>749662171People wish it would do this but it still has energy limitations and if things get bad enough people will sabotage the data centers themselves and/or sabotage power for the data centers. Anything that can be built can be unbuilt
>>749662123You said this when graphic cards got crazy expensive 5 years ago because of bitcoins. Where are the cheap extra parts?
>>749628341>We're only going backwards from here on out.good
Why should military grade technology be used for gayming?
It truly is over
>>749662284I want to generate industrial levels of futa on male porn
>>749662223AI wasn't really something most people expected to happen so it kind of prolonged the issue. If you notice a lot of the faggots who were shilling crypto and NFTs pivoted to AI. The bubble will burst one way or another because the world economy is built on pillars of crumbling sand, it's really a matter of "what will cause the crash" rather than "will the crash happen".It's funny because we are already in a state where we haven't recovered from 2008 so we are going to be getting a crash within a crash.AI and crypto can only function so long as the global market can dump excessive amounts of money into them, once that no longer becomes possible or investors get cold feet from not getting returns their value will drop. It will happen, just a matter of when.
>>7496294089070 XT
>>749634896now new consumer GPUs until 2028
>>749662218 Your entire narrative relies on consoles being cheaper than PCs, but a used PS5 right now costs more than a top line GPU did last year. And your next console will inevitably break the 4 digit pricetag.These are just the facts. You're kicking yourself for not jumping ship when you had the chance and coping about your bad choices here.
>>749662350Sure bro. Weeks status until we can buy 5090s for 500 bucks?
Damn. Hopefully that one company working on a new type of gaming gpu hurries up.
>>749662294>actually nvidia will give up 4.2b in revenue for no reasonthe shareholders won't be happy to hear that.
>>749662445Probably within 5 years unless a black swan event happens. The absolute latest is 10 years, but the economy is barely scraping along even right now so any number of things could cause a crash which would lead to the AI bubble bursting
Just buy AMD?
>>749662438The fact that your argument is constructed on comparing a PC to the artificial skyrocketing PS5 price 6 years into the generational cycle just demonstrates you're desperate to find any psychological soothing argument to tell yourself that justifies your absurd spending on hardware for minimal gains over consoles. You made the choice to go all in and made a financially retarded decision, thats on you big guy.
>>749662171you’re really are just a dumbass huh?>>749662220> People wish it would do this but it still has technical and energy limitations and if things get bad enough people will sabotage the data centers themselves and/or sabotage power for the data centers. Anything that can be built can be unbuiltFix it for you a little bit.
>>749662053Until AMD develop a thing thats better than CUDA i refuse to buy AMD gpu
>everyone goes cloud pc>EMP event happens>welcome back to stoneage
>>749662681Anyone who seriously thinks that AI is going to take over are delusional.The worst thing that would happen is that we are so tremendously stupid give it nuclear codes and the ability to launch them but even if that happens it will kill itself too. AI can literally only take control as much as we let it. So long as we have the ability to unplug it and physically destroy the data centers and that it cannot maintain itself without human labor, it will continue to be reliant on us.
>>749662681Okay. Here's a three billion dollar data center. Go shut it down.Go unbuild it. We'll wait.
>>749662657>artificial skyrocketing PS5 price the PC GPU price spike is natural?>6 years into the generational cycledepreciation isnt a thing?>just demonstrates you're desperate to find any psychological soothing argument to tell yourself that justifies your absurd spending "absurd spending" is the same price as the PS6?>on hardware for minimal gains over consoles"minimal gains" that are still well beyond your current and future console?I dont know which cope is funnier, but I love all of them. You missed your chance, anon. But if you forgo the latest toy and start saving now, maybe you'll be able to afford a gaming pc in the next 2-3 years
>>749662539Sure bro, just like when crypto "popped."Here's a reality check:First of all, those bubble poppings aren't even 1/10 of what you apocalypse charlatans predict.If the bubble pops, the only thing that will happen is a temporary 10–20% price drop, just for prices to pump again after a couple of years. That's it.The reality is that you're never going back to 2021, EVER. If you didn't build a high-end PC back then, you lost the best chance you'll ever have in your life.Sure, getting a 20% discount might help your ego, but the fact is that you could have bought the same thing five years ago for five times less.
>>749662859>the PC GPU price spike is natural?PS5 costs skyrocketed long before the Iran war. The PC GPU price is heavily affected by it. The point is, your argument hinges on unique circumstances and is not the normal. PCs have always been more expensive than consoles. So your PS5 argument doesn't mean anything. >depreciation isnt a thing?It is, but this cycle it isnt. Dont see what your point is here, are you a pajeet?>"absurd spending" is the same price as the PS6?Already answered>"minimal gains" that are still well beyond your current and future console?Thats right. Because what good is hardware when you've got no games to play it on. Besides 1 or 2 exceptions over the years, PC follows the console game development cycle. You might have terabytes of RAM and a supercentre mega PC, what are you playing on it? Castlevania and goat simulator? You lost, tranny.
>>749627868>I didn't buy taiwanese 600w space heater trashfeels good and have plenty of monies saved
>>749662785I don't know where you're getting "take over" from, but it has already improved itself many times over in just three years. It's going to outperform humans pretty soon, in every category.No it won't starting thinking nor will it "take charge", but it's going to cause some redundancy issues when an algorithm can do all tech work in a few seconds while solving quantum formulas that stumped mathematicians for 50 years. Our usefulness is going to be called into question very quickly.
>>749627991100% popping
>>749662796Sure are a lot of power lines in the back, would be a shame if someone cut them.>>749662960Crypto didn't pop. It will when a crash happens. Crypto gets 99% of it's value from speculation and not from any actual real value it has. It isn't backed by anything and isn't something you can physically use. Ironically despite people claiming it is a detached currency from the global system it needs the global system to have value. Random people in your community wouldn't accept it, it only has value because the global infrastructure and speculation fuels the value. It isn't backed up in real terms. AI managed>>749663026Unless it can mine metals to make robots that it can walk around and actually do stuff, all it does is devalue white collar labor. Unless it gets to a point where it can do everything including manual labor people are going to realize it isn't worth the investment and vastly scale it back to the point where it is only really used for search engines and maybe lazy people who want to pump out art. People are hyped about it because it is new or novel but there isn't ever going to be a reliable use case for it because it's just easier to deal with humans than AI hallucinations and unpredictability and the need to be plugged into technology 24/7 to even use it. The honeymoon phase will end.>Our usefulness is going to be called into question very quickly.You have it backwards, people are going to realize that AI doesn't actually provide meaningful value, just spreadsheet value and undercutting actual people. AI doesn't have value if all it does is undercut most people. What is the point of having AI if all it does it make life worse for most people? You are putting the cart before the horse.
>>749663202>AI managed to extend the length of the bubble, but when the crash does happen it will still popDidn't finish typing that for some reason.
>>749662986>PS5 costs skyrocketed long before the Iran war. The PC GPU price is heavily affected by it. So when the Iran war ends PC GPU prices will come down. So maybe there's hope for you yet>The point is, your argument hinges on unique circumstances and is not the normal. PCs have always been more expensive than consoles.Except now, where current and future consoles are more expensive than my current PC despite being weaker. >but this cycle it isntDoesnt count, very good argument.>Already answeredWhere? What's the price of the PS6, anon? Or is this one of those "Doesnt count!" copes like the one earlier?>Thats right. Because what good is hardware when you've got no games to play it on.Shall we go through the PS5 exclusives list? Atleast Playstation has one, I guess. The Xbox doesnt even get that dignity>Thats right. Because what good is hardware when you've got no games to play it on.Im playing the same games you are, expect at a far better performance than your console ever will. >You lost, tranny.Answer honestly. Which news made you cry harder? The 30fps console version reveal? Or the PC port?
>>749661997All your computing needs will be streamed from your local data center. It's just the price of a cup of coffee per day
