>>749639475
goy cattle aint gonna do shit

I remember when the pangya publisher pulled that shit without so much as warning the players.
End result: Nobody did shit.

>>749639563
they'll probably find ways to defend this, valvegoyim love kissing the boot

likely has to do with japanese laws

>>749639475
im legitimately surprised how vehemently anti-japan valve is getting

>>749639820
Which is why Sony and Nintendo AREN'T doing this, right?

>b-but valve is the defender of gamers!!!

>>749639892
Heterosexual content is still legal there.

>>749639892
naked girls are scary to the enemy of the bugmen

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>>749639475
I've noticed a bunch of jap games do this only for their version
Is there some specific law that applies this to money also?

>>749639475
isn't that a Jap compliance thing?

>>749639916
They definitely do, which is why Nintendo Gold/Platinum points expire 6 months after you get them and you cannot claim Gold points 12 months after a game releases, even if you buy it after. Japanese consumer law is some of the worst on Earth.

>>749639475
Isn't that a law or something over there?

>>749639820
Probably, same reason most hentai games are banned on steam in Germany, because Germany wants every hentai game to go through USK and age verification even the most shittiest AI hentai shovelware. Valve just doesn't give a fuck to comply with stuff that makes no sense. Wish my country used common sense again.

>>749639820
>>749639995
>>749639997
>>749640001
>>749640052
>No, leftover currency (account balance) on the Japanese Nintendo eShop does not expire after 6 months.
>Account Balance Validity: Once added to your Nintendo Account, your eShop funds remain in your account until you spend them.
>Nintendo Switch Game Vouchers: These have an expiration date of one year from the date of purchase.
>Digital Game Codes / Prepaid Cards (unscratched/unused): Some promotional or physical game codes may have a printed expiration date noted on them, though standard eShop cards themselves generally do not expire once active.

>No, leftover funds added directly to your PlayStation Store wallet do not expire after 6 months on the Japanese PlayStation Store.
>Wallet Funds: Once you redeem a PlayStation gift card or add yen balance to your PlayStation Network (PSN) wallet, those funds remain valid in your account indefinitely.
>In-Game Currencies vs. Wallet Balance: The 6-month expiration rule in Japan generally applies to specific in-game microtransaction or virtual currencies (like Fighter Coins or similar publisher-managed items) rather than the main platform wallet balance itself, depending on how the publisher structures them under Japan's Payment Services Act.

>The 6-month expiry rule under Japan’s Payment Services Act (Article 4, Item 2) is an exemption threshold for prepaid payment instruments (such as in-game currencies, gift cards, or e-money).
>Exemption from Regulation: If a prepaid instrument is strictly designed to expire within six months from the date of issue (and actually expires or becomes unusable after that window), it is legally exempt from heavy regulations under the Payment Services Act.

TLDR it's valve cheapening out like kikes and not wanting to pay JP taxes

>>749640052
Yes, it's to prevent yakuza money laundering.

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>>749639928
It feels good to be a Pirate Chad!

>>749639475
>retarded jap law has a demand because it's a nation of gachaslave goycattle
>how could gaben do this

>>749639475
Why would they do that?
It's not "Steam credits", it's even measured in fiat.

>>749639892
>>749639962
>>749639969
It is so surreal in this supposedly socially just world to watch Japan essentially be blockaded, harassed, and have its companies even occasionally forced to make concessions all because it refuses to stop being conservative and is proud of its culture. They especially can't handle that more and more Americans are choosing Japanese stuff over California shit and even adopting Americanized versions of Japanese ideas instead of whatever bullshit the Western lawmakers want them thinking. Progressivism is so paternalistic it is disgusting when you realize it. It just wraps paternalism in a blanket of sensitive words and that is enough to fool the average retard.

>>749640179
the law doesnt prevent them from having virtual currency, it just makes the platform pay taxes on any holdings if they hold them for more than 6 months so they dont try be a clandestine bank or black market dealer (which steam very much is with the csgo casinos)

>>749640330
Alright so the right move is deduct the taxes from the user's balance

>>749640330
CSGO market is bigger than some national stock exchanges and Valve is completely at the top of it. They must bribe legislators everywhere hard to prevent anyone attacking this.

>>749640437
Do westoid goyim really?
No nigga, the right move is forking over the tax as a platform like nintendo and somehow even SIE do.

>>749640097
Isn't it amazing how Japan could have easily kicked the shit out of the payment processors all around the world and instead chooses, every time, to double down with retarded nonsensical shit?

ok steamdrones start defending this, find a reason

>>749639475
Gabe does it again! I love progress.

>>749640563
>Isn't it amazing how Japan could have easily kicked the shit out of the payment processors all around the world
lolno, the most they can do right away is just continue using the local payment processors
which works for japan itself but you will still bitch that you lost access to jp media because your goycard doesnt feel like processing that

>>749640506
I guess valve figured it wasn't worth it based on their market share. Definitely a stab in the back to jap pc gaymers, but you can't compare it to the actions of two japanese console giants in console-loving japan.

>>749640563
>Valve straight up refuses to pay taxes and gives their entire japanese userbase the middle finger.
>"Japan bad for not instantly solving the payment kike problem!"
Do westoid goyim really?

>>749639820
The law is something like
>You must provide insurance on virtual currency unless it expires in 6 months
So no, Valve is not forced to jew over Japanese users. They could simply offer refunds on year old currency if something goes wrong.
Valve is the single most jewish company to ever exist so there was no other option for them.

>>749640097
>>749640251
What amazes me is how we collectively admonish and express revulsion towards antisocial individuals such as nuisance streamers and jeets for having to respect for societies they parasite off of but when it comes to international businesses siphoning off of foreign economies while pulling the most disgustingly antisocial shit they can get away with, suddenly it's all okay.

>>749639475
>literally steals your money in 6 months
What? That's diabolically jewish. It fucks over anyone who sells stuff on the market

>>749640251
They do this to themselves: >>749640097
>
>The 6-month expiry rule under Japan’s Payment Services Act (Article 4, Item 2) is an exemption threshold for prepaid payment instruments (such as in-game currencies, gift cards, or e-money).
They choose to torture their customers and their customers keep electing their politicians. There are so many actions they could have taken by now to free themselves from the yoke of foreign payment processors running their country, and this is just a tiny step for them.

>>749640716
>company sees massive growth
>turns out that growth is literally just chinks
>company decides to backstab their previous main and loyal market in favor of chinks
>sometimes along the way they also backstab the japanese market despite japan being the most important market on earth
>company sees growth for a while
>they collapse eventually because chinks are pissy bitches that WILL throw your ass under the bus under the slightest shit, even if said slightest shit was not even by you directly or indirectly
it happened to kikewood, it happened to disney, it happened to basically the entire TV and movie industries in westoidland, it happened to their music industry, it's happening to their AAA slop vidya, and now it's happening to tech companies themselves
when will westoids ever learn to not trust chink money?
mind you it also happened to anime and manga but at least manga learned real fast after the first chink chimpout and anime learned after the second chimpout

>>749640818
>There are so many actions they could have taken by now to free themselves
Careful now, I've been banned before for 'violating US law' for saying less about payment processors on this board.

Why is this a problem? Just use the funds. Why are you hoarding it?

>>749640719
>"Japan bad for not instantly solving the payment kike problem!"
No you retard Japanese politicians are being retards passing laws like this when they could have chosen to implement virtual payment processes themselves and exclude Visa/Mastercard/Valve altogether. Then they would get the taxes automatically.

Nope, put a huge loophole that's a big fuck-you to the customers and lets Valve off the hook scot-free.

>>749640506
Nah, they're a business not a charity. Why do you expect them to pay taxes on that money twice (or more)?
If the nips hate that policy then they can get out and le voot to change the government's mind.

Why is that anon talking to himself?

>>749640913
There's nothing worth playing
I hate spending on games I won't play
It's a big middle finger to people who sell the stupid trading cards to get a bit of money back

>>749640892
>despite japan being the most important market on earth
lol
perhaps even lmao
Blud is stuck in the early 80s tech industry. Japan is irrelevant market wise today.

>>749640818
>Japan's Payment Services Act (Article 4, Item 2) is not designed to prohibit or stop a specific criminal offense.
>Instead, Article 4, Item 2 outlines a legal exemption/exclusion regarding Prepaid Payment Instruments (such as gift cards, e-money, or prepaid points).
>What Article 4, Item 2 Actually Does
>Exemption Scope: It specifies that prepaid payment instruments which can only be used within a short, limited validity period from the date of issuance (as defined by a Cabinet Order) are exempt from the heavy regulatory requirements of Chapter II of the Payment Services Act.
>Purpose: The exemption is meant to reduce regulatory red tape for short-lived, low-risk promotional or event-based vouchers rather than to criminalize or target a specific illicit act.
>Lightweight Compliance: By exempting them under Article 4, Item 2, the law helps prevent over-regulating short-term, low-risk, or transient promotional instruments, allowing businesses to issue them without triggering full-scale registration, net-asset thresholds, or security-deposit mandates.
TLDR this is literally a costumer protection thing, the problem is valve is refusing to not even actually pay tax apparently, they literally just need a security deposit to guarantee their funny e-money isn't a literal rugpull, which they refuse to do and instead just said "fuck you" to their entire japanese userbase.

>goycard
lol

>>749640943
>>749641094

>>749640563
Japan both has its own payment processor that most of its people use and led the modern charge against payment processors meddling in shit.

>>749640892
>they collapse eventually because chinks are pissy bitches that WILL throw your ass under the bus under the slightest shit, even if said slightest shit was not even by you directly or indirectly
Or they imagined it. That's also happened numerous times.

>>749641094
To continue this:
>Chapter II of Japan’s Payment Services Act (Act No. 59 of 2009) governs prepaid payment instruments (such as gift cards, IC transport cards, and in-app game currencies).
>• Definition of Prepaid Payment Instruments: Certificates, electronic devices, or electromagnetic records issued in exchange for consideration that allow the holder to purchase goods, services, or receive benefits from the issuer or designated third parties.
>Own-Business Prepaid Payment Instruments: Instruments that can only be used to purchase goods or services directly from the issuer (or related/affiliated corporate groups). If the unused balance exceeds a statutory standard amount (typically 10 million yen), the issuer must file a notification with the local Finance Bureau.
>Third-Party Business Prepaid Payment Instruments: Instruments that can be used to purchase goods or services from participating third-party merchants outside of the issuer. These require formal registration with the Prime Minister/Financial Services Agency (FSA), compliance with net asset thresholds, and security deposits.
>Issuers of third-party instruments (and own-business issuers exceeding threshold limits) must deposit a performance security deposit (equal to at least half of the unused balance at the end of March and September) with a legal affairs bureau, or establish a trust agreement or guarantee contract with a bank to protect users if the business fails.
>The FSA and local Finance Bureaus have the authority to inspect issuers, request operational reports, and issue business improvement or suspension orders. Failure to comply—such as neglecting fund-securing obligations—can lead to administrative sanctions or criminal penalties (including fines or imprisonment).
TLDR: Holy fuck apparently all valve had to do is give a deposit to guarantee they aren't going to go belly up in the near future to comply with customer protection laws, which they refused to do.

>>749639475
>having funds in your steam wallet
retarded to begin with

>>749641094
>valve is refusing to not even actually pay tax
Extremely based and an example we should all strive to follow

>>749639475
I sold a CSGO case for 1200 a couple years ago and I've been using those funds ever since, This would fuck over people that sell shit through the store often.

>>749641029
Japan has over a hundred million people that are wealthy, it is strong enough that most of their companies straight up don't think internationally as they can already get rich off of the domestic market. The country on the global stage in many ways is still second to America if you discount China fudging numbers and Germany occasionally getting raped by migrants hard enough to rise above. Recently, it has even started to experience economic growth again and it has a globally decent birthrate that it continues to treat as a pressing issue. There pretty much has to be some conspiracy behind why so many companies and other groups ignore this nation. Ever since it westernized it has been treated like a weird sort of pariah, but post 80s this has gotten to unprecedentedly retarded levels.

>>749641374
>TLDR: Holy fuck apparently all valve had to do is give a deposit to guarantee they aren't going to go belly up in the near future to comply with customer protection laws, which they refused to do.
no, its worse
read it carefully
heavy regulations and taxes only really apply to issuers of e-money in which said e-money can be used outside the issuer's platform, aka, if you're a literal fucking bank or trying to be one
they don't apply to issuers in which the e-money is platform exclusive, all those have to do is " the issuer must file a notification with the local Finance Bureau."
that's fucking it
they didn't even need to issue a security deposit as that only applies to " third-party instruments (and own-business issuers exceeding threshold limits)"
valve straight up refused to do extremely basic shit and register as a legitimate business in japan

>>749639475
I've got a dollar something in my wallet because the minimum you can add is $5 at a time.

>>749640251
>Progressivism is so paternalistic it is disgusting when you realize it. It just wraps paternalism in a blanket of sensitive words and that is enough to fool the average retard.
The ravings of a person attempting to derail a thread. Hoping desperately someone will justify his feelings.
No, just shame, that's all you'll feel.

>>749639475
>actually giving money to that fat cunt who killed physical media so you can pay to 'rent' games

my sides

>>749640081
>Probably, same reason most hentai games are banned on steam in Germany, because Germany wants every hentai game to go through USK and age verification even the most shittiest AI hentai shovelware. Valve just doesn't give a fuck to comply with stuff that makes no sense. Wish my country used common sense again.
Has nothing to do with hentai or porn games.

Germany requires the proper documents to classify a game into an age bracket. If they do not fill out the form there is no age classification and therefore the game automatically becomes "+18", which is the equivalent of a pornographic game, even if it was something as retarded as Angry Birds. Now the real question is why games like Cyberpunk 2077 that are rated +18 are allowed to be advertised and sold.

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>>749641554
>The country on the global stage in many ways is still second to America
And even then that's still chink style number fudging as mutts have been carried over exclusively by the AIslop bubble for years now.
And before that it was the covid boom.
And before that it was the housing bubble.
Pretty much most amerimutt finances are faker than the chink ones because at least chinks have oil.

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>>749639475
> japan problem
loldontcare

>>749641626
The world is getting dumber and more jewish by the day.
>Fill out a single piece of paper that takes like 5 minutes to fill out
or
>steal money form hundreds of thousands of people
Hmm...

>>749639475
it will be some sort of Japanese tax law, the utility company where I work had to something like this because old people who using it has a bank/welfare fraud

>>749641626
Clearly the jap government wanted more than some paperword from Valve. Some boomer probably saw a crate trading site and thought it was real money or some dumb boomer shit.

>>749641626
>heavy regulations and taxes only really apply to issuers of e-money in which said e-money can be used outside the issuer's platform
But it can
>get Steam funny money
>use it to buy steam deck
>????
>PROFIT!

>>749641643
This is literally the topic of the thread, how these western companies and groups attack Japan. OP was only playing coy. You probably are one though with the weird way you type and the "SHAME!". The vitriolic response whenever someone tries to call out the attacks on Japan just reveals that it is the case.

>>749641878
>and thought it was real money or some dumb boomer shit.
it is real money tho, that's how the csgo casinos operate

>>749639475
Digital currencies with an expiration date is the future tech billionaires, the Rothschild and kikes dream about.

>>749641778
>>Fill out a single piece of paper that takes like 5 minutes to fill out
Valve is a small indie company operating with just 50 employees, they don't have the manpower to do something like that internationally, please understand.
Now pay up goy, that new yacth fleet (that is going to be written off as a tax expense by inviting some scientists to the PDF parties) is not going to subsidize itself.

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>But how does this affect you?
>It's actually a good thing
>You shouldn't even have steam wallet money
>It's not monopoly corporation's fault, it's the government with its pesky laws trying to protect consumers from abuse
>So what if they do bare minimum and screw over their customers?
>At least they are the least evil option
>What are you EPIC/EA/GOG shill?
>You are just mad you got banned
>You are poorfag
>You are brown
>You are left
>You are atheist
>You are women
>They totally hecking saved le hecking video games with 30% and child gambling they totally deserve to anally rape an entire platform or a country
>Shut the fuck up and consoom you pig, you are not entitled to shit

>>749639820
Nips are a conquered race under the dominion of ameritrashes and so by extension kike bankers.

>>749642103
>the goyim already doing damage control for valve dodging extremely basic customer protection laws (that should be a thing everywhere) by doing the temporary shit instead of registering as a proper business
grimola

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>>749642094

>>749639475
????

>>749642191
>customer protection laws
How does taxing a company for having store credits last past 6 months protect the customer?

>>749642191
>damage control
I don't care about valve, nothing you said paints my statement as false. Which country is occupied by American military bases again?

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>>749640251
>japan
>conservative
Lol. Lmao even.
Also
>implying valve is doing this to punish japan

>>749642324
read the thread retard, thats for banks, all valve had to do is show up and register as a proper business, they didn't

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>>749639475
oh it only happens in Japan cuz of the retarded laws submissive nips voted for. Not my problem.

>>749641972
They operate in this grey area where cs items are pure speculative in prices which valve is already gutting, users use them as a hoard of wealth that they're slowly cashing out now that the market peaked and is being phased out. Steam funny money has more going on like currentcy manipulation like generating wealth from the difference in currecy values that's why they recently put a minimum floor fox tax to 0.01 cent to the dollar so I can't generate as much free gaben money from card drops. I think ultimately though they do this so they can in no way shape or form be treated as a bank like cs is being is as a black market. They've rather eat shit now than a future criminal investigation on why this acc has millions in CS skins, same reason there's a 2000 dollar cap on steam credit.

>>749640892
> at least manga learned real fast after the first chink chimpout and anime learned after the second chimpout

What were the manga/anime chimpouts about?

>>749642474
No no retard I am asking you how that law protects consumers. I don't care what valve is doing or how hurt your weeabo ass is over it.

>>749639475
>be japanese
>put $1000 on my steam wallet so I can buy the frame instantly
>valve doesn't let me buy it until 2028 because they have to give scalpers priority
>money stolen
uuoooh sugoi

>>749641867
>it will be some sort of Japanese tax law
Yeah, and all they had to do was fill out a single form. No down payment needed. Just a pen to fill out a piece of paper.

>>749639475
Can't Japs switch their home country to something else?

>>749639475
>>749641878
Ok that just an asshole move there Valve. There was no reason for them to do such asshole rule.

>>749642526
You have 72 hours to order your frame. During this window, you can add $1,000 to your Steam Wallet. Unless nips are retarded.

>>749642631
>nips are retarded
Clearly they are since they begged their government to make a rule that caused this situation

>>749642497
Like last year the chinks did a retarded military exercise which violated a peace treaty and technically conceded entire ownership of taiwan to japan as a result.
Chimpout ensued and chink companies pulled all funding from anime, manga and vidya, this is by the way also why people like nagoshi got left for dead before finishing his AIslop yakuza clone.
The manga specific chimpout before that was literally over gojo's death on JJK, iirc chinks somehow acted like that was a japanese man unjustly doing war crimes on gojo the chink man, it's as retarded as it sounds, but I didn't really pay much attention to that one.

>>749641879
You cant buy a steam deck on steam in japan you have to go through steam’s official supplier in Japan named Komodo.

>>749642597
Yes VPN exists but Valve knows that and still decides to do this asshole move to Japanese customers.

>>749639475
Based. Japs pull the same shit for western clients all the time.

>>749642631
>>749642660
Everything leads to Valve being an asshole, stop defending their actions and racism.

Isn't valve trying to get rid of the prepaid cards anyway?
>>749641554
Penetrating the japanese market is hard and it doesnt help that in the modern era big companies feel the need to hire "market experts" who are 90% of the time extreme culture warriors with a seething hatred of japan. Japs have a bunch of shit domestically to eat up their attention thats far cheaper than what western companies are willing to price aggressively against. Theres also the fear that anything that gets popular that could be done by a domestic company gets banned via government regulations like whats happened multiple times in korea.

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>>749642763
>t. weebcel

>>749639735
How does this affect me?

>>749642778
>>749642667
>JaPaN bAd
Meanwhile dumb Americans are paying triple in gas prices because their dumb government attacked the largest oil refinery. Let’s not forget you Americans decided to killed our friendship Sakura trees (friendship is over). It’s you dumb Americans who are dying from AI data centers.

You people are the worst people right now. No one trust a single thing you’ve posted.

>>749642778
>Isn't valve trying to get rid of the prepaid cards anyway?
not trying to, they did get rid of them justifying it with "muh scammers are using them too much and we dont have the manpower to handle that" as if they didnt just buy yet another yacht fleet

even japanese games like street fighter 6 do this with its paid currency

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>>749643137
Lies

No but for real, if valve can't even be fucked to register as a company in the only important market left, how I'm supposed to trust they will not just exit gaming overnight and close steam without warning to focus exclusively on yachts?
Every move valve has done in the last 3 years just keeps justifying my move to the nintendo ecosystem for AA JP third party gaming.

>>749643425
But Nintendo has no games.

>>749643494
Steam doesn’t make games, they hire people and use stolen mods from Blizzard.

there were 10 bucks in my microsoft account and they are gone now
"expired"
dont pretend this isn't going to become common if we ever go full "digital" and no real money

>>749643541
Steam is a platform. Why would it be developing games?

>>749643494
parroting your cope wont make it true nigga

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>>749643570
but i thought gayben was supposed to side with gamers?

>>749643665
Show me Palworld on a Nintendo console.

>>749643621
If they are just a platform and are more than happy to rugpull gamers on a whim, why wouldn't I just go with nintendo who has the better platform AND actually makes exclusive games then?

>>749643786
When did Steam rugpull gamers?

>>749643725
no
and half of the shit in right is lies retard

>>749643840
Did you ignore the entire thread? Valve is deleting every single gamers saving accounts.

>>749643840
use your eyes broski >>749639475
also recently when they decided to not even try fight payment kikes and banned far more jp games than they had to
by the way dlsite made their own payment processor after that, while valve would rather waste billions on yacht fleets instead

>>749643874
My wallet has had unused funds forever.
>but Japan
Insects are not people and can't be gamers. Also, japs won't play anything unless it's on the MSX.

>>749639892
Payment processer pressure aint nothin to fuck with

>>749639820
It does, but every poster in this thread will ignore that

>>749643909
Nobody in the west would use a Valve payment processor. Steam would have to stop accepting the big 4 and PayPal. That's death. I'd buy from MS before I'd get a Valvecard that's worthless elsewhere. Japs aren't gamers and want to fap to mosaiced shota assholes.

>>749643951
This isn't payment kikery for once, it's just valve refusing to do the bare minimum and register as a business in japan so the gubmint doesn't (rightfully) think they are a rugpull money laundering front.

>>749644025
pretty much everyone is pointing out this is just valve not wanting to do extremely basic jp paperwork anon

>>749642419
Ah yes, the liberal country that has been ruled by conservatives almost completely for nearly a century now, has elected and overwhelmingly conservative government that is hawkish on China recently, and laughs at stuff like immigration and gay marriage. The country that is so liberal that localizers constantly have to tweak their works to make them not sound problematic to an imagined liberal western audience. The IQ of this thread is astonishingly low, but that is the nature of these jeet spammed anti Japan threads.

What did Japan do recently that now it's a problem all of a sudden?

>>749644203
They should block Japan and refund the collective 18 yen spent on Steam by the entire population.

>>749644203
>extremely basic jp paperwork
Somehow I doubt that is the case, since it has to do with banking.

>>749643137
This lol

>>749644259
Apparently they did the ebil and extremely anti-consumer move of inconveniencing steam by wanting them to register as a proper company.

>>749644380
Why did Japan wait until now to do this?

>>749644323
It's literally one signature. I filled out 9001 of them today.

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>>749639475
This is just like cbdc and the token currency they want to replace our monetary system with. Epstein tested digital currency with world of warcraft

>>749644427
>Why did Japan wait until now to do this?
>normalizing expiring money
>agenda 2030
>since it doesnt affect me who cares till it does
and so on

>>749641626
japan is one of those goofy countries where you have to do a whole lot of arbitrary bullshit to be considered a legitimate local business. considering the fact they work with domestic partners for hardware distribution, I don't think they want to have to start worrying about tokyo office space and regional employees.

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>>749644259
I feel like they unironically felt like they had Japan in the bag Olympics onwards but then Japan started pushing back in a way too obvious for them to pretend like wasn't happening. Then you had things like Sony moving to protect Kadokawa from mainlanders, UN feminists getting kicked out, Takaichi getting elected. The schizo posters were exactly correct about what they spammed about for years. I'm sure most of it is Chinese rage like another anon said. The reason you get smuggies posting "thing: Japan" memes or talking about it being "overly glazed" is because they are terminally contrarian retards that are easily duped by shit pushed online and always want to sound superior on things. It is like questioning why Japan was so villainized in 80s media. It is just the continuous cycle of them being upset they can't topple it.

>>749644427
wouldn't be surprised if they were pestering valve for over a decade and only now gave them an ultimatum to just register as an active company already, upon which valve decided to just fuck over the jp consumer instead
wouldnt be the first time valve does this, they already went through this i think in aussie court and that's the reason valve has refunds at all

You must be very careful with companies introducing funds that can expire. Even a "based" one like Steam. If this ever becomes the norm we are absolutely fucked as a society.

>>749644454
>signature
Those aren't accepted in Japan. You need to register a domestically manufactured signet.

>>749644592
well they have been trying since banks started with cards

>>749644541
They wouldn't even need expiring currency if they just registered as an active business.
Both nintendo and snoy in japan have e-wallets that don't expire, though nintendo will empty your e-wallet money if you swap regions, but given the only eshop that matters is the JP one, this is hardly a problem.

>>749644569
The only thing aussies did for steam was suck off visa and get a bunch of stuff deleted. Valve should have range banned ausfailia after that

>>749644592
Maybe I'm too optimistic but it could be a net benefit in the long run. Money already expires over time if not spent. Making it very obvious by taking it from people unironically might make them start using it correctly.

>>749644698
yeah, fuck saving money i must burn it on shit i dont want or i'll lost it

>>749644568
Very strange take on the Olympics, considering the LDP were placing all their economic hopes on it happening.

>>749644592
Valve hasn't been "based" since like a decade ago when they banned DT2 and chaos head.
And when they started to get rid of prepaid physical cards was when I knew they were on their death spiral of enshittification, them bragging about their yachts constantly just confirmed it harder.

>>749644732
I hope you are at least saving it in an account with compound interest as if it doesn't grow at an exponential rate you might as well be burning it.

>The terms of service update was apparently done way back in April
>It is only being reported today because some autist combed through the update notes and found something mentioning Japanese users
>The update specifically says Japanese users will be able to see what funds they have and when they will expire
>There's currently still no such function on Steam
>News outlets contacted Steam on October 10th and asked about these "expiring funds"
>They were told that wallet funds are not expiring for Japanese users
It's a nothingburger. For now.

>>749644732
So Japan is correct in doing this then if you think Steam is a savings account

>>749644783
nope letting the bank jews gain 96% of the profit from my money. so fuck off with your jew idea

>>749644802
>>It is only being reported today because some autist combed through the update notes and found something mentioning Japanese users
this is not a good thing, this is the kind of shit valve should be putting out as news on their platform
also surprise surprise, april was about 6 months ago, just in time for some wallet money on steam to start expiring

>>749644818
i only have money on steam when i sell those stupid cards. so if that money expires i guess i'm also losing it because i hardly buy directly from steam
using steam as saving accounts is fucking retarded

>>749644783
shalom

>>749644747
Doesn't mean global retards didn't try to use it to push Japan in a direction and turn it into some sort of reintroduction of Japan. You could really see it as the point where global idealism in Japan died as they've increasingly opposed this stuff since. It is really similar to the events that led up to Japan modernizing except that they didn't see foreigners as a threat at first this time.

>>749644920
If there isn't a single game in 6 months that you want to spend you $0.13 on them maybe you should stop selling cards until something comes along

>>749640251
Imagine what steam would do if the Nazis were still around

>>749644984
well . my brother buys a lot of stuff
so between the games i emulate. the ones he buys. and the ones i want to play or replay
i hardly ever buy shit
also too much regret buying games in the ps3 era so never wasting more than 5 bucks in a game ever again

>>749644818
>Put $100 on Steam in anticipation of Christmas sale
>Nothing good is on sale so you just spend $50
>Next sale is the Spring sale, 4 months left on your funds
>Spend $20 because you don't really want anything
>Next sale is Summer Sale and the last sale before your funds expire
>Don't feel like getting a game
>Gaben gets a free $30
Explain to me how this is legal. Surely the UK or US will fuck them if they try it outside Japan?

>>749644203
not even japanese people want to deal with japanese paperwork, it's fucking schizophrenic

>>749645056
Google's platform currency also expires over time in the UK and US, doesn't it? Valve could probably get away with pushing this worldwide.

>>749645056
Show me when this has happened.

>>749644909
>april was about 6 months ago, just in time for some wallet money on steam to start expiring
That's what the japanese news reports were about. There were no reported cases of money going missing, and when they contacted Steam about it they were told that steam wallet funds currently aren't expiring. So even though the ToS was updated it seems that they don't have the systems in place to enforce it yet.

>>749645056
why are you putting money in steam wallet at all? its cheaper or stupidity?

>>749645056
>Explain to me how this is legal.
Japanese laws requires it so it is by definition legal. next time don't put money in someone's hands until they have something you want and treat that 30 as a life lesson. Most people learned to not get scammed in RuneScape when they were 7 but you zoomers are a little slow so even though this is a pricey lesson it's still good for you.

>>749645056
>Explain to me how this is legal
The Japanese government decided it. It's objectively legal.

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>>749645009
Imagine if you got raped by a group of women until your testicles were empty! You really need to get laid already!

>>749640097
so it was related to japanese law, okay thanks for verifying it

>>749645152
>They had more than six months to register as a proper business.
>They still haven't.
>They are too lazy to even implement the system to enforce it.
>They will likely pull out of japan entirely once law enforcement tells them to either register as a proper business or implement the expiration system.
Lol.

>>749640251
>Americans force Japan to open itself to the world
>almost 200 years later, Americans force Japan to be closed off from the world

Insanely schizophrenic thread.
I do lol that the other valve hate thread plummeted in posts per minute when this one started getting more mentally ill.

>>749645156
Gifts, selling items. For me it's budgeting. I only put a certain amount of money in my account through digital giftcards so I'm not tempted to splurge during sales. Of course I could just like, physically take a $50 bill and keep it in a sock under my bed or something but it was more convenient using the wallet function. This also means a lot of people who get gifted Steam money are going to get fucked.

>>749645275
street fighter 6 has been doing this for 3 years

>>749639475
For what purpose...

>>749645171
or valve could just register as a business instead and have no expiring e-wallets like nintendo and SIE do, they aren't a bank so they didn't even have to pay a deposit or taxes over it

>>749645315
And SF6 will soon be leaving Japan permanently because of it

>>749645281
In the early 19th century, what was the extent of the USA's involvement in Japan?

>>749645342
based but also based

>>749645206
You need my fucking cock

>>749645315
>>749645342
That legislation was made exactly for those small MTX sloppa transactions anon, the problem is when valve would rather act as a MTX store than a proper publishing platform from straight up refusing to register as a business.

>>749645418
Why would they do that in a country that Valve is going to stop doing business in?

>make law that makes life worse for your population
sasuga politicians

>>749645360
1853 Americans sent an armada and forced Japan to trade with at gunpoint. The perry expedition, Americans just harass anyone within reach

>>749645418
its very likely its due to the CSGO casino shit
that makes valve gorillions and they are way too coy about not bringing mainstream attention to it for obvious reasons
having to disclose finances in japan would mean having to disclose how the item trading system works, which may qualify them as a bank and thus forced to pay those taxes, or as a literal gambling enabler and thus banned entirely, given the gubmint has been even cracking down on pachinko gambling parlors for a decade
alternatively it would mean having to lock inventory trading for JP users, and valve is way too fucking lazy to implement even the most basic QoL shit
extremely funny when like 5 or so JP devs making all-ages games got their bank accounts frozen and money pocketed by valve because valve claimed to the JP bank they were using they they were selling uncensored porn overseas, which was false, this was also news earlier this year and nobody gave a shit

>>749645516
well i'm sure it have been going on for longer but it was easily noticable since the plandemic
every new law is worse

>>749645640
>or as a literal gambling enabler and thus banned entirely,
Asians would never ban gambling they are gambling addicts on a genetic level. They invented the lootbox and gacha systems.

>>749645516
It's a pro-consumer law anon, all it does is hold companies accountable to stop random shell companies from popping up, holding money, rugpulling the users, then fucking off with no accountability.
This means valve is;
A) Too stupid to do basic japanese paperwork.
B) Maliciously going to rugpull japanese users in the future.
C) More worried about hiding their grey market casino shit than the entire revenue of the JP market.
D) Going to exit gaming entirely to focus on yachts and sees no point in doing this basic paperwork.

>>749645640
If gachaslop isn't gambling then nothing Valve does is either

>>749645709
anon, the asian market is literally the only reason gachaslop today has pity systems to hard cap how much you have to spend to get a copy of a character
they are also the only reason gacha rates have to be legally correctly disclosed
>>749645794
you can't trade gachaslop whores to other people or for wallet cash to buy games or even real world items like the goydeck like you can with CSGO casinos anon

>>749645758
Yeah instead companies can not do anything and delete funds and the jap government claps and bows as the consumer was protected from having that money.

>>749645637
The gunpoint narrative is actually a sort of white washing and it went beyond that event with America. Britain for instance had multiple essentially colonies in Japan where its citizens were free from Japanese law. There were also occasions when western ships full on bombed Japan. Perry wasn't just threatening, the Japanese already had felt and knew what was coming. Maybe America, as usual, wasn't the main aggressor. But the simplification of the story as just a guy going over and the Japanese getting scared by cannons is grossly far from the reality.

>>749645758
>it's pro consumer
Are japanese steam consumer better off due tot his law? if not, it's not a pro to them

>>749645758
>companies being able to steal your money is good, actually
lolmoa

>>749645870
>>749645975
Pretty sure the average consumer would consider a red flag that a full blown gaming publishing platform claiming to be a nintendo and sony competitor is suddenly treating user e-wallets like random coffee shops would with their customer point cards.
So yes, the costumer is protected in that case if said company doesn't even want to register as a business.

>>749646027
all valve had to do to not have expiring currency is register with the jp finance bureau
they didnt

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>>749639475
Why not do this on.. chinese bot farming account money laundering bullshit? You know, from China the land of communist rapist copycat motherfucker of all.

>>749646084
Not my problem

>>749646034
valve's finances are more stable than the yen, if this shit was pushed by zimbabwe you'd be making fun of the law

>>749646034
Pretty sure the average consumer is a mouth breathing retard that accepts any and all acts by companies. Doubly so for the nips that worship corporations and want to jail people that stream or mod games.

>>749640330
>clandestine bank
but you can't take out your valve money

>>749645874
Neat, honestly Japan would've had to have ended it's isolation eventually one way or another
Someone should make a strategy game about surviving westerners as the 19th century Japan, then they'd have something to buy with their steam funds

>>749646160
if this were true in japan then sony wouldn't be limping on their deathbed there in terms of relevancy
very nice confession from a westoid perspective, though it was unnecessary as everyone knows valvegoyim will defend everything valve does

>>749646495
>if this were true
It is. Read any online discourse from the Japanese especially surround the FInal Fantasy mmo where the nips want to ban and fine people using client side mods. Several hip VN publishers wanted to take legal action against people uploading videos of their 'games'. Japs ALWAYS side with the corporations over the people as they are all slaves.

>>749646495
let me see, you also think that PC = steam and maybe chinkpig

>>749646495
Didnt that umamusume controversy happen like a month ago? The one where nips cried about mods disrespecting the horses and japan???

>>749639475
>time for another round of gringo mutts rage-baiting each other about something that has a clear explanation, doesn't involve them in any way, but sounds bad when I read a headline, so I'm going to complain about it for years to come

OoOoOoOooOOH! Valve hates anime games soooo much! Oh nooooo! Mary won again! AAAAA

>>749646729
2accurate

>>749646712
Anon those were because the yakuza holding the IP rights to those horses can revoke them anytime and they are extremely pissy about saving face for the horses.
If they revoke the rights then the characters straight up would get deleted from the game

>>749646472
It would be cool but then you'd have to decide whether to end it with modernization or let the player feel the strength of the empire at which point it becomes questionable how much of the world should be represented and when it should end.

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>putting money on your Steam account
>without the express purpose of using it
Fucking why? Who would even do this?

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>>749642191
>grimola
granola if he grim
>>749639820
banks eat your money if you forget about your account too
or if you die

>>749647594
hiding tens of thousands of dollars from wifey so that she doesn't steal it during the divorce rape

>>749647594
There was a smalltime lolcow who kept all his money in his steam account like it was a bank.

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>>749643725
skips out on when valve tried to ruin pc modding in i think it was 2015 by putting a paid mods system on steam that they said would "moderate itself" (people stole each other's mods like crazy and took down their mods and broke dependencies and disrespected copyright etc). it was so bad it only lasted a weekend but i don't understand how people forgot about it.

>>749639820
Always have, Steam unlike Sony, Xbox, or Nintendo is REALLY a global company. And being a global company doesn't mean "enforce silicon valley laws and culture on everyone", quite the opposite, their platform just adapts to the law of the country they're in.

LGBT festivals or games? Not on countries where that shit is illegal.
Age restrictions on some countries? You get that too.
Some devs refuse to launch in some countries because they're fags or because of ongoing conflicts? Their loss.

So, if your country have some restriction, you only have your shithole country government to blame.

>>749640097
Based, paying taxes is for fags. You should always cheap out on taxes, stop feeding the regime

>>749647983
They already ruined modding with the workshop
>oy vey goyim buy from us or never get any mods
Yes, yes, I'm aware a very small amount of devs allowed anonymous downloads so you can use steamCMD.

QUICK WHAT DO I SPEND MY $5.09 LEFT OVER FROM THE LAST STEAM SALE I DON'T WANT GABEN TO TAKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>749647983
>but i don't understand how people forgot about it.
valvegoyim are unhinged cultists that will happily sweep under the rug shit like that

>>749648074
What?

>>749647985
>Based, paying taxes is for fags. You should always cheap out on taxes, stop feeding the regime
it wasnt even for taxes, read the thread
it was valve refusing to do the basic move of registering as a company in japan

What are the Rothchilds angry about this time?

>>749648115
Several games have all of their mods on gaybes paid platform and no where else. He got his wish to have goyim pay for mods.

>>749648208
How is this valve's fault when the mod uploaders are too lazy to upload elsewhere?

>>749648256
Hmm yes how is it the fault of the company that created the problem

>>749639475
Japan is stuck in the 1990s

>>749648293
Shitposting so nonsensical youre probably a chat bot

>>749648208
Don't forget valve constantly seeks and kills sites rehosting workshop mod mirror downloads.

>Valve should let me, a Nihongoese citizen, as you can tell by my exclusive use of English and presence on 4chan, purchase an astronomically large gift card digitally to spend on games (I gain no advantage doing this and the money is simply locked up onto the Steam Platform) and become subject to Japanese business regulation and taxes to ensure I can maintain this nonsensical balance
>This benefits me none as my games are not cheaper and I still pay tax on them, and I needed a payment processor or bank to provide this balance if I did not purchase it in cash via physical giftcard or code, which I could do at any time
>Valve should bear the burden of additional costs because I can neither spend money I explicitly earmarked for games (and cannot spend on other purposes except for in-game items) in a timely fashion, nor simply not throw my money into a weird business escrow when I can just not do that until I'm actually buying something

It must be interesting having a life this hard.

>>749648756
>costs
it's just a deposit, thoughbeit

>>749649529
not even a deposit because they don't count as a bank, all they had to do is register as a legit company, which they refused to do for whatever reason

>>749639475
>expirable money
Coming soon to the bank near you. Just you watch.
Also nobody will do shit.

>>749649590
Yes I'm sure it's very easy and you, anon on a mongolian basket weaving forum know better than developers from a multi billion dollar company

>>749649754
Banks would never do this, they make too much money off of people's savings.

>>749649792
This is the same guy that said that Valve would go bankrupt because the steam deck didn't outsell the Nintendo switch. Try to be easy on him. He doesn't understand finances.

FUNDS STOLEN

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>>749640097
I'd avoid paying JP taxes too if all that tax money is just being used by their government for mass-immigration of 3rd worlders.

>>749649836
And they would make more if they owned the money permanently

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>>749648337
United States is stuck in the 1920, no jobs, dollar being worthless, people dying from corporate greed, no healthcare, children working at young ages and debt.

>>749650094
Wrong. People would just put their money elsewhere.

>>749650062
Japan people said no to the idea and now the government looks dumb: https://panasiabiz.com/111504/osaka-protest-immigration-video

>>749650062
>>749649590

>>749650272
>children working at young ages
what
all those "jobs for highschoolers" (that still exist) are filled by middle aged college graduates now

>>749644568
retarded weeb ass take

>anti-consumer practice :(
>anti-consumer practice, japan :O

>>749650552
Care to explain why he is wrong?

>>749650548
*jeets and spics*

>>749650328
Like investme- Oh. Maybe credit unions? Well they'd do the same thing to the goyim. Socks under the bed?

>>749650620
Valve is refusing to register as a legitimate business in japan anon, that's not a "japan bad" thing, that's 100% valve's fault as neither nintendo or sony have this expiry ewallet problem.
This is shit intended for mom and pop stores and rando cafes to not get raped by taxes intended to rape banks by having their "buy 10 x and get 1 x free" and similar coupons untaxed by making them expire, which doesn't affect anyone when those either get lost easily or get used within a month tops.
So why are you defending valve literally trying to operate in japan like rando lemonade stand?

>>749650623
He should go back to /jp/
Also Japan glazing is no longer in style, as evidented by drop in 4chan's traffic

>>749650804
akshually it is intended to rape gambling parlors, as it specifically targets funny digital money that can explicitly be used outside the issuer's own establishment or platform
in other words to use taxes to rape those rando businesses that give you pachinko points that you can just oh so conveniently exchange for real money and items at a store right besides the pachinko place
this is unironically a problem for valve due to their grey market CSGO casinos using CSGO skins as betting chips
it also is intended to regulate banks but banks can easily pay up the security deposit and call it a day

>>749650870
4chan traffic dropped because 4chan users were harassed into caring deeply about politics and then mainstream social media sites started easing the suppression that was on their ideas that kept users here. I'm sure many of them brought their love of Japan with them although it much more easily gets drowned out by the modern internet being flooded by people who hate developed countries just because and a bunch of guys who want something weird to claim so they can make video essays off of the shock.

>>749651170
That and both /jp/ and /vt/ were two of the three boards (alongside the JP generals on /vg/, though some gook and chink generals too) that after the downtime simply didn't return from their "temporary" alt chan of choice.

>>749651170
>4chan traffic dropped because
they started banning people for pushing back against
>cultural marxism and idpol
>industry corruption and journo professional misconduct
>the lgbtranny groomer menace
>shills and astroturfers
>censorship, be it of cleavage, expression, violence and gore, setting (e.g. no high school romances), etc.
>other anti-consumer shit affecting vidya, like, streaming, cloud gaming, live-service shit, and (((identity verification)))
not to mention that legitimate threads get regularly deleted to make room for shill threads, AI garbage, blatant fanboy threads (shittendo in particular stands out), eceleb worship, etc.
We all know about the back alley deals to leave the corporate spam up

>>749640735
being a corporate body disperses responsibility and its harder for people to get mad at something faceless. steam/valve is also a special case since they did pretty well with cultivating a fanbase of loyalists that personally identify with their brand and they protected that goodwill by boiling the frog slowly when pulling anti consumer shit

>>749651650
>cultivating a fanbase of loyalists that personally identify with their brand and they protected that goodwill by boiling the frog slowly when pulling anti consumer shit
Nintendo are the masters of that. Exhibit A is download codes in a cartridge to force the goycattle to foot the bill for storage and pretend they didn't take away game ownership
Worst of all is the brigades of shills they send accompanying every release. Every actual Yoshifag either laughed at or lamented the kiddy mysterious book non-game

>>749644203
>jp paperwork
>basic/simple

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>>749651864
third parties asked for goycards anon, and this is after nintendo told them to fuck off with their voucher cart habit on the switch 1 where they would buy 1gb carts and make you download the entire game as an update
it is also to stop code in box shit
then again not like westoids would would actually understand how proconsumer moves work when they would happily sell off their rights if it meant sticking it up to da chud weebs

talking about shit that expires after 6 months in japan, the code found in "physical" copies of gta vi there expire after 170 days after they are issued

>>749644220
>left/right brain
Japan is the country that invented dick shitting nipples.

>>749651864
>>749652024
The games with keycards for the Switch 2 would've never had anything physical otherwise in most cases. It always felt like a fake issue from the moment they were announced. People nowadays can't take anything (successor to popular console) as good and must look for a problem (a form of distribution for some games).

>>749652174
>People nowadays can't take anything (successor to popular console) as good and must look for a problem (a form of distribution for some games).
people happily pretend the ps4 and ps5 were successes despite losing to the switch 1 and switch 2 respectively
it all comes down to hating japan as ordered by their kike masters, it's that simple, westoids these days are not even trying to hide it anymore either, look at this thread

>>749652024
>>749652174
>shittendo defense force arrives
>third parties asked for goycards
Then they should have told them to go with digital instead of doing digital but worse
No one's falling for your jewry

>>749641423
I flip skins from rust and have funded nearly every steam purchase with it for about 6 years now
this would be very annoying if it happened here in the west

>>749652325
its digital but better because you can actually lend it to friends and family, unlike the competition, especially valve

>>749652241
>YES GOY YEEEEEEEEEEES IT'S NOT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT GETTING SCAMMED WITH DOWNLOAD CODES IN A CART, YOU JUST CLEARLY HATE JAPAN
least jewish post itt

>>749652370
>cart is flagged
>system and account banned
>now left with money stolen and paperweight in your hands
great "ownership" bro
>especially valve
Good thing GOG is DRM-free

>>749652325
>>749652376
>says dumb shit trying to gaslight people
>gets corrected
>AIIIEEEEE THE FACT DEFENSE FORCE HAS ARRIVED, HELP ME NIGGERMAN IM GOING INSANEEEE
its not download codes because GKCs are not single use like download cards are
stop being intentionally brown

Why would you keep money in your Steam wallet that long. It's not a bank account.

>>749652428
>makes up fictional scenario in his head
>gets mad about it
>NINTENDO BAD
do goyim really?
>Good thing GOG is DRM-free
it better be because they are renting you licenses too instead of giving you a physical ownership option

>>749652145
Look up the concept of private face and public face. Most modern conservatives aren't prudes. Prudishness in general is something that ebbs and flows in countries and is usually bipartisan.

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>>749652492
>Look up the concept of private face and public face.
once upon a time in the west this was called "not being a dumb fuck and separating your private and public affairs"
too bad westoid goyim are too stupid to understand such a simple concept these days and will happily blurt out what they fap to in professional envioriments, including AAA all-ages gaming

>>749644203
Japan is one of the most draconian places of nightmarish levels of paperwork and legal stipulations that make American management look like child's play on the technical level. If you gotta deal with whiny manchildren managers in the west, it's straight up unmovable tenure and a refusal to budge on anything ever in the east.

>>749652492
So conservatives are into scat?

>>749652653
I would expect THE platform for PC gaming with a literal functional monopoly on the PC hardware space and worth billions in yachts to be able to do something even sony and google can do.
There's people you can literally hire for this job, in case your westoid ass wasn't aware.

>>749652435
If it truly were the same as physical, you wouldn't need to buy SD cards and they'd work on any system regardless of ban status
You're getting scammed
>>749652474
>physical
DRM-free Game dumps >>>>>>> games locked to a cart
3DS carts are dying as we speak
>y-you're renting!
They can't take away my 1s and 0s. Nintendo can disable your Game Scam Card anytime
>>749652465
Because when you have $1 from marketplace sales you don't want to be forced to spend it, least of all before a sale

>>749652727
you already got raped out of these copes two times yesterday alone baldy, go catch a break
terraria is a dogshit troon game too btw

>>749652576
I do find it weird how people will just be so openly obsessive about their sexual habits and desires even in professional spaces. And weirder that this forced these institutions to find a place to land on where it is safe vs problematic and that this somehow became that some of the most deranged and depraved stuff in the world is safe while more mundane fantasies held by those who are often less forceful are treated with intense scrutiny. I hate hearing about the latest terrible thing that has been depicted in media while knowing that even liking something cute can have people harass you nowadays, mass hysteria.

>>749652787
>terraria is a dogshit troon game too btw
You can thank red for accepting the mutilated freaks with open arms, for free btw, the fucking retard didn't even do it for the DEI money, he did it for free.

>>749652787
>schizo thinks I participate in his shitty famitsu threads
I wish salesfagging were an instant ban

>>749652796
For whatever reason japan is always ahead of the times, their obsessive and borderline antisocial separation of private tastes and work/school/social life into separate boxes made them adapt fairly quickly to social media with only attention whore retards suffering the brunt of the problems.
Which is very funny due to westoids always claiming japan is too collectivist and hates individuality.
Meanwhile in the west you have literal hordes of ideological cultists in the literal sense of the word forcing people to comply with their faggotry and even attacking people in corporate and professional environments over petty social and personal bullshit, and westoids will still claim they aren't collectivist drones that hate individuality.

>>749639475
>baka gaijin
kill yourself, faggot

>>749652885
>Famitsu out of nowhere.
Nobody said anything about famitsu broski.
Congratulations on outing yourself yet again however.

>>749653009
>getting hung up on that
So you're scum from those threads. Any opinion you have is instantly rendered worthless

>>749642234
>thise
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>>749651297
/vt/ was really the only board affected. Not going to count all the /vt/ generals that refused to move out of /jp/ finally evacuating as an indicator of the boards health, especially since the board went back to pre-vtuber levels. /jp/'s recent downturn is due to the mods forcing threads to autosage after a certain period of time because one of the /vt/ generals still on it was bumping other threads to archive their thread as some weird baking ritual. Got rid of a lot of fake traffic and helped clean months old dead threads of no significance off the catalog. /jp/s board culture is weird, constant one post touhou threads. I wonder what /mu/'s activity would look like if the kpop generals moved.