>it takes a team of 20 people 6 years to decompile a 50mb Nintendo 64 game>Given this it would probably take 100 years to do the same to a ps3 game>AI does it in a week>People get mad that they used AI So what's the alternative? Spend 100 years decomping it by hand?
AI hate is performativeJust wait till their favorite game companies start using AI and you'll see people change their tune real quick
GO GO GO
Funny part is this use case subverts all the typical arguments about AI.IP? Nope reverse engineering is legal.Water & Environment? Nope, the AI does it so fast it uses far fewer resources than the equivalent human effort would require.Quality? Nope, the AI is producing high quality well tested code these days and its speed allows for rapid bug fixes that human devs would choke on for years.
>>749653060I'm sure AIfags will be happy to buy 80 dollar games that were shat out by AI in a month.
>>749653257>Paper Mario 64 Recomp>It's a source port
>>749653327AI is the solution to the pricing problem. If it takes a month there’s no justification to charge $80 and the price of software plummets.
>>749653358I'm not seeing that happening. If anything, prices are getting higher.
>>749653317They never gave a shit about any of these. It was already proven most ai seethe was funded by china to allow them to catch up
>>749652982This is trash, there is a "wine" approach that runs 100 times better:https://github.com/deadinside28/bloodborne_pc
>>749653327Capcom and Epic already said they're going all in on AI for their enginesNormalniggers will accept it and gladly eat it up, everyone else will follow
>>749653327if the physics are good I dont mind
>>749652982Okay, i researched this shit better and it's hilarious.This video is about bloodborne pc that is NOT a recomp or decomp or any of this slop, it is a "wine" that runs the game, specifically tailored for bloodborne:https://github.com/deadinside28/bloodborne_pcIt is made by claude as well, but as the author asked for the right thing, he ended up with a pretty good piece of code.But there is a shit recomp as well:https://github.com/bloodborne-native/bloodborne-recompSlow, klunky, made out of generic tools, probably don't even work, that is also made with claude.but it's shit because the author didn't even tried to think on what to ask.It's like if we had a genie lamp and people kept asking for piles of shit on purpose.
>>749653387AI still can’t make AAA games in a month so when that happens you’ll see a correction in 2-5 years once investments play out.
can someone please please please claude vibeslop a Minecraft mod in which singleplayer games don't run on a retarded dogshit client-side server please oh please
>>749654116AI probably can make it in 6 months with good guidance for a fraction of the price, however i doubt AI users are capable of pulling it off.Bunch of uncreative talentless retards just jumping into trends to get e-fame.On the post above yours there's a perfect example.
>>749653060Is "performative" the new buzzword? Which e-celeb did you hear it from.
>>749653410No it doesn't
>>749653358>he actually thinks prices will go downCost cutting ≠ lowering pricesNo matter how many times you dumb faggots try to claim this about literally everything, it has never once happened. Why would a company throw away profit?
>>749652982idiots hate AI because it makes them feel inferior.its like a guy name pedro whos really good at hammering a nail. suddenly theres a tool that does nailing automatically and makes pedro obsoleteor an automatic dish washerbut in this case its gays who stupid a useless degree for art
>>749654231It exists because it descriya real world phenomenon
>>749654321Avoiding the question, I see.
>>749654264Yeah, i did a proper research some posts down, and the one exofag is talking about is the one i pointed out in >>749654053I got tossed offtrack by some retard doing the usual static recompilation trash that there are zero videos about it probably because it don't even work.
>>749654296Idiots love AI because it lets them pretend they are smarter than they really are.
>>749652982>AI decompiles in a weekWRONG!!!!!!the AI makes an emulator wrapper.thats it.thats all it does.
>>749654053All Claude did was ape shadps4. You're retarded brother, give it up.
>>749654231yeah Hasan told me about it
>>749654489That's not how it works. The darkness recomp isn't using emulation at all.
>>749654489In this case it's neither, it's a "wine like interface" that runs bloodborne natively.The guy using claude had 3 grams of brain and asked it the right thing, and as a result it is a hundred times faster than any sort of regular ass clout project.>>749654535Quite possibly, but that's a LOT better than the usual slop
>>749652982If you arent willing to spend 100 years decomping a game then you're making slop.
>>749652982The alternative is to stop making threads on subjects that you're clueless about.
>>749654295This.>consoles move from carts to CDs, surely this will mean cheaper games!>digital distribution becomes widespread, surely this will mean cheaper games!>EGS charges publishers less to sell on their storefront, surely this will mean cheaper games!>studios fire all their old devs to hire a million indians for a fraction of the cost, surely this will mean cheaper games![you are here]>those same indians can now apparently vibecode a game using AI, surely this will mean cheaper games!
>>749654053Like anything else it's a tool, but like all tools you need to know what you're doing with it, otherwise you're just going to be using your fancy multimeter to hammer in nails.The average person who puts out an """AI recomp""" will have just opened up a chatbot and gone>chatgpt please be making mario on pc
>>749652982maybe they can finally finish zomboid and obliviwind or skywind or whatever else
>>749652982>used AIyou didn' t pirate it
>>749652982I've tried about four of these "recomps" including BBhost and a few different flavors of bbport and they all have issues. Various graphical glitches, level geometry failing to load, or just outright crashing at random. You're better off just using BB Launcher and (if you want) the DLSS/FSR fork of ShadPS4. Been running it with fromsoftserve's remaster mod for a while now and it's been flawless.
So are these AI jeets going to actually finish the project? Solve all the bugs and issues? Or are they just going shit out some slop for attention and then move on to The Next Thing yet again?
>>749653358HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYou're do nauce it's cute.No, AI is the solution for CEOs to keep more profits.Its only real usecase is costcutting, except compute price will now go up too do they don't know what they're getting into.The current wave od $5 literal slop obviously doesn't count but everyone's waiting for AI to finally be normalized.
>>749653358>uh yeah bro the greedy CEOs and investors mandating 80 dollar price tags in the first place will accept getting less money
Is The Darkness worth playing? It got a PC port
>>749652982your mb scaling doesnt work when most of the file size is graphics and sound
AI is inevitable, people need to stop resisting the future
>>749654489>It's only emulating, chuds!Retards trannies keep spouting the same lies. People are already modding it to play VR because the source codes is now available. Emulators alone cannot make it support VR.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEitKjXLf4c
This is soullessI only eat bread with handpicked grain
>>749652982>>749653060Good morning sir.
>>749652982does character editor work or not?
Wake me up when AI allows us to make our own PCs without paying an arm an a leg.
>>749652982>People get mad that they used AI>PeopleIt's Troons.It's always troons and some retard will replay to this comment with Saaar Jeet whatever but it is the same reason games had to put faggot flags in games, despite being a vocal minority troons are annoying as fuck and won't leave you alone, they will rather see nothing get done because troons need to be political self important or algo.I assure you 99% of people do not give a fuck it is AI and even them will still download this.
Again the problem is that people lose their jobs => lose their lives, that's why AI is hated.
>>749653358I was not buying games before but AI can also crack games faster.
>>749654295>>749655590It’s called supply and demand anons. As AAA quality becomes decentralized its supply will shoot up and drive the price down.
>>749655727That's what they said about NFTs.
>>749654823i haven't bought a video game in 20 years.seems pretty cheap to me.
>>749652982no one decompiled bloodborne it's just a slow buggy shitty hle vibeslop much worse than shadps4
>>749652982Why do people when talking about AI always sound like they are somehow related to its progress, like they are personally responsible for whatever is happening?
>>749656080>He didn't bought AI stocks before this shit went to mars>He doesn't work in AI related fields.NGMI
>>749655939This is not really how it works. Releasing an AAA project where you have to take responsibility for what it does and provide support for years is not the same as vibecoding a port then shrug it off if it causes any kind of damage to the host system.
AI decomp is the only based thing it can do.
>>749655939supply and demand doesnt account for retarded cattle that'll buy anything at any price.sorry, anon.
>It's a le tool!Okay then why is it being used ONLY by troglodytes? Where are the 180 IQ 6'7 white 4chan anons you all claim to be and use it to get an actual good port?
>>749656983better question: why is it ONLY being used to get free shit still?why isnt it being used to make NEW shit instead?
>Another AI shill thread
>>749655619Yes I played it when it was new and again a couple years ago on Xenia.
>>749652982I thought this fork was the one everyone was usinghttps://github.com/Supermedo/bloodborne_pc
>>749657013>why isnt it being used to make NEW shit instead?Because AI isn't actually "AI" yet. It's a huge interface that regurgitates an amalgamation of things it has been trained on based on user input. It doesn't have the capacity to truly create new things. That's why you see it only used to imitate other things.
AI can be criticized and also have done collateral damage both to normal people and the industry (ram, ssd and GPU price increase), but this blind hate towards AI mostly comes from loser "artists" (mostly furries and faggots) and replaceable people on the industry that are seething because they are going to lose their source of money and wasted years on a useless degree, if they have any.Instead of seething and crying you should adapt to the industry because technological progress wont stop just because you
>>749655986Nfts were worthless AI is already solving 100 years old Mary problems and making ps5 emulators. If you think they are at all comparable you are retarded
>>749655757The anti ai trannies can only lie
>>749656069Objectively false lying troon If AI was bad you wouldn't have to be desperately lying like this
>>749656983Seethe. I'm playing spiderman in VR
>>749656983Literally every programmer uses aiEven the søybeard c++ resditors who still use vim over visual studio are using claude
>Dude AI will eventually pay out, you'll seefucking hell how many years has it been
>>749658836zero value, it has done fucking nothing for society and nobody can name a single positive use case so far
>>749652982>decompile >AI does it in a weekit's an emulator made by people you worthless retarded turd
Uhh so what version of Bloodborne runs on this again? The US version?
>>749654489 i dont think you quite understand what modern emulation actually is. modern emulation is like translating a language on the fly as it is spoken. Modern emulator does this with PS4 code > PC code dynamically as the code is thrown at it. Static recomps like the bloodborne one has pre-translated all of the code/instruction sets. So it is a static recomp. Which is easier on the CPU/GPU and gives better performance. The 3D aspect is using SHADPS4s 3D native instruction implementation but that doesnt mean that the emulator is just shadps4, that is wrong.
>>749658836>>749658851Retards don't understand basic economics. You reinvest when you predict future earnings beat current earnings. AI could easily turn profit by stopping research (where most of the money goes to) and use last gen models. They don't because every gen is far better than the previous. AI has already replaced the majority of programing jobs and a large percentage of service jobs and it is only getting better from here. Amazon and Netflix took 10 years to become profitable because they continued to reinvest their revenue. AI is the same but with an even bigger use case.
>>749658853No it isn't you seething troon see >>749655757
>>749653476This. GTA IV level body physics and Red Faction Guerilla level destruction is now mandatory for every game.
>>749658950This destroys the leftist
>>749658853All anti ai trannies have left are lies.
>>749652982>Brapoterica thumbnail
>>749659091notice the moment you ask them to name something AI has done as a net positive, they just disappear
>>749652982Script kiddies bitching about AI are like Yandere dev: Fags stuck in their old ways that can't adapt to new tech which will inevitably phase the out. I get the concerns about AI, but this instance isn't one of them because it's mostly fear mongering. Call them "luddites" or whatever you want, but that's how I see it.These re/decomps are basically early alphas being made at a rapid fire pace and I do worry about some devs putting all their eggs in one basket with how much ground their trying to cover grabbing all these games which might lead to burn out, but we'll have to wait and see. So far I haven't found all these vibecoded re/decomps that trannies say are shat and left behind in broken states other than 2, while the rest haven't been updated in 1 to 3 months. I'll give it a grace period up until the end of January next year since we're heading into the holidays and people WILL be busy.Anyway, this is similar to when trannies were crying about literally being "erased" when Orange man was kicking them out of women's spaces and stopping kids from pumping themselves with experimental hormones. It's all mass hysteria and they're trying to demoralize you. Think of the poor heckin' starving artists, OP!
>>749652982Wake me up when Bloodborne gets Seamless coop.
>>749655757>>749658979>>749659091>Emulators alone cannot make it support VR.you are a retarded you retarded AI pajeet trannyit's an emulator
>>749652982>>Given this it would probably take 100 years to do the same to a ps3 gameThe size of a game on disk doesn't tell us anything about the size of its code, most of it is textures, models and sound. Fucking tech illiterate retards on here man
>>749659341>These re/decomps are basically early alphas being made at a rapid fire pacethey are all stolen emulators you retard
>>749659091>>749659302notice how you retards shill emulators as AI decomps you worthless retarded turd
>>749659480That's like saying piracy is stealing. You're entitled to that dumb opinion.
>>749659560it's literally stealing emulators and pretending it's a decomp you retarded tranny>That's like saying piracy is stealing.you are a worthless retarded turd
only retards believe AI can just decompile console games out of nothing
>>749655891>>People get mad that they used AI>>People>It's Troons.>It's always troonswhy are you lying you worthless retarded turd>and some retard will replay to this comment with Saaar Jeet whatever because that's what you are pajeet you worthless retarded turd
>the only argument retarded pajeets have about being called out on emulators is calling everyone trannieseasy to tell these pajeets
if some retard start crying troon when you call out their liesit's always a pajeet shill
>>749652982It wouldn't really take that much longer to do a PS3 game over an N64 game.N64 just got a headstart due to Mario 64 shipping with full debug tokens.
>>749652982yes retard
>>749659874>>749659883>It wouldn't really take that much longer to do a PS3 game over an N64 game.because ps3 and n64 emulators exist and these decomps are just emulators
>>749652982This is good because game free on PC but this is bad because AI slop o algo
>>749659928These AI recomps are, yes.But I'm talking about humans doing cleanroom reverse engineering - N64 vs. PS3 isn't going to be that different.
>>749659937>this is bad because AI slopit's a stolen emulator made by people you retard
>>749658335It is
>>749660051>stolenIs it though?I can understand the art argument, since most of the art it ingests isn't /free/ 'as in freedom'.But FOSS code? How is that 'stealing'?Moreso, BSD/MIT/WTFPL/Public Domain/CC-0/etc code? That can't be 'stolen'
>>749660110>stolen>Is it though?yes it's stolen if they don't credit them and pretend it's a decompthat's how AI works it steals human work
>>749660110>But FOSS code? How is that 'stealing'?>Moreso, BSD/MIT/WTFPL/Public Domain/CC-0/etc code? That can't be 'stolen'you steal it by pretending you created it you fucking retard
>>749659598Sorry you feel that way, but I couldn't care less. The devs working without AI don't own the source code to the games they're dissecting, so it's naive to think they aren't exempt from being "thieves" as well. Making this a game about 'muh morals' is irrelevant anyway. I'm getting more ways to play vidya conveniently as will others, so you can either sit there and mope all you'd like it while things continue to move forward with or without your input or come have some fun with the rest of us who aren't pessimistic.I'm going to go back to the Ico port sometime tomorrow to check out how well it runs with 120fps, since 60 was good and had proper frame timing with the block pushing animation unlike the broken 60fps patch for PCSX2.I'm also pretty excited for the R&C1 one with added modern aiming like the sequels.
>>749660158You're missing the part where open source software doesn't require 'credit'In fact the initial 4-clause BSD license that *does* require credit, is incompatible with GPL for exactly that reason.>>749660187So most FOSS software pretending then, since the vast majority of any code in a FOSS project was pulled from another project which was pulled from another project, etc, etc.
Why do retards keep responding to the schizo that talks like an old type 1 LLM?
Yeah AI can reverse engineer code that's supposed to be impossible for a human to do and that barrier acts as a form of security. So what makes you think they're going to stop at video games?
>E-Emulation existsSoon to be replaced as far as N64 games are concerned. kek
>>749660231>>749660214cope it's a stolen emulator you are playing emulators not decomps>>749660265>>749660275>>749660291why are you lying about it not being an emulator you retarded pajeet tranny?
Pajeet got triggered hard when called out his AI is just a stolen emulator
Pajeet gets triggered hard when you point out AI is just stealing stuff from humans
>>749660303Ok, and? What will (you) do about it?
>>749660364nothing, I won, you admitted it's just a stolen emulator and not some AI magic
>>749652982I played it more than a decade ago. I do not care.
>>749660275It's not impossible, ghidra will spit out the source for any software you give it in a few minutes.But unless you've the debug tokens, all the variables are just going to be incremental numbers from when they're first defined.Sifting through that and actually making something readable is what takes weeks/months and unless you're getting paid to do it, it's boring af (it's still boring as a job, but it's a job)>>749660393No one is saying it's magic, it's just regurgitated foss code.I take umbrage with the idea that foss code being regurgitated is 'stolen'.
>>749660393Cool. You wanna cookie?
>>749659302>>749659510Ps5 emulator DecompsVR portsNot that hard. Keep seething troon
>>749660561also dunking on Adobe.
>>749659480>>749659598>>749660303Retarded tranny. See >>749655757All you troons can do is seethe and lie
>>749660393You will never be a woman. See >>749660589
>>749654053>bbport — a native Linux port of Bloodborneok but does it work on Windows?
I wonder how this kind of AI vs anti-AI happen on twitter or even /pol/ where you can see the location of the posters
>>749656080Don't know about others, but I literally work in the industry as a researcher.I'm contributing to waifubots step by step that will likely get banned before its public release regardless
>>749660760who gives a shit
>>749660760https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
>anti-AI troons desperately claiming that AI is le bad>simultaneously saying that the bloodborne decomp is actually just emulation somehowMake up your mind, disingenuous faggots.You're on the wrong side of history. Most things are already AI, and in the future, all things will be. You have no choice in the matter, the genie is out of the bottle, there is no undoing this. All you can do is accept it, which seems to be a tall order for someone who won't even accept the gender they were born with.The future is bright and AI driven, let's gooooooooo.
>>749654231>DEFINITIONS DONT MATTER STOP USING WORDS THAT EXISTyou leftist freaks are so hilariousperformative, luddite, and democratization has you up in arms every time
>>749660820>>749660845linuxtards really claim to be all stallman-like "share the softwaaaare" but when asked about windows tell you to kys
>>749661205Sharing software doesn't mean I have to teach you how to use it.
>>749661205you are free to inspect and modify it to run on windows not my problem
>>749655757>People are already modding it to play VR because the source codes is now availableNo it's not, what you have is recompiled machine code at best which is not the source code in any capacity.Why are AI sissies so adamant on hyping shit they know nothing about?
>>749653358>Cutting profitslol
>>749661317So you admit calling it an emulator was a lie and cope
It's real, my friend plays it on 4gb videocard, it crashes like every 30 minutes but its playable, I'll get it when they will make it to not crash at all
Do any of these AI recomps run better than standard emulation? I wanted to finally try Bloodborne on PC so I can play it at 60fps.
The future belongs to AI Chads. Redundant programmers and "artists" can COPE about it.
>>749661470Shadps4 fucking sucks so I would hedge my bets on an AI recomp against it
>>749658950>AI could easily turn profit by stopping researchOutside of this being patently untrue since inference costs are still astronomically high and all AI companies are sitting on a black hole of debt in the first place, the thing is you can't stop research either because models need constant training, you can't stop training a model so you can't stop doing research.>AI has already replaced the majority of programing jobs and a large percentage of service jobs and it is only getting better from here.Where? Point us at the hard data, no nebulous bullshit.>AI is the same but with an even bigger use case.If it has such a huge use case how is it that it only lost billions for five years straight and nobody's actually using it?Amazon and netflix were in the red for years (not by trillions of dollars either) because of a market strategy that allowed them to crush the market and completely dominate it in years by starting with low prices to destroy competition by conquering a userbase and then capitalize on that by finally raising the prices in a market with no competition, neither of them tanked the economy either.Is AI doing this? Not really, the userbase still isn't there five years later unlike Amazon, Netflix, Uber and whoever else, we have the numbers and all that is happening is circular financing because the only people who are actually making money are Micron, SK hynix and Nvidia, everyone else is in the red and lying about their business.
>>749652982>ps3 game
>>749661364I'm not even the guy you were replying to with your post, retard
>>749661535The mass produced software/art/etc do.Humans will still make 'artisinal' art for money and the AI world requires it, since otherwise it collapses in on itself. It's not much though, just like how recycling plastics needs ~10-30% new polymer to form a good structure, so it will be for humans effort.
Ai is going to legitimately destroy gaming. Good riddance.
>>749655794Unironically, modern grain is very bad vs heirloom grain.
