Like how video game is depicted in other media. Like this for example>Game with generic plot>Pay-to-win gears DLC>The playable characters are super weak which incenting you to buy the DLC to beat the game>nonsensical world-building>Mashing mecha and fantasy together>Bland self-insert protagonist
>>749671328>>Bland self-insert protagonistIn this case it makes sense because the MC is a literal mob. And once he finds out how shitty the setting is for men, he wants to stay that way while accumulating wealth on the side.
>>749671568No no no. The original game was an Otome game which mean the MC is a girl. The MC of the books ended in the same world as a mob but the role of protagonist of the game story still landed on the same girl.
I read a ton of these slop LNs and its really obvious none of the authors have ever touched a videogame. These protagonists get dropped into games which make 0 sense both mechanically and in the sheer scope, and they are always kusoge (so they can justify the author's inclusion of tropes and non-sensical plotlines.)Some examples:>VR game set in modern era with NPCs so hyper realistic they are indistinguishable from real people>Otome games aimed at women with plots that make 0 sense but also they are extremely difficult soulslikesnote: Japs/koreans/chinese apparently consider dark souls the hardest game to ever exist >soulslikes that have an impossible level of difficulty>RPG which is shown by the author to be extremely buggy, made by like one dude, and its extremely difficult (the protag mastered its every mechanic tho.)>porn game but with kusoge soulslike combat>MMOs but the author has never played an MMO in his life
>>749671328If I had a nickel for every isekai about video games made by someone who's clearly never played a video game in his life, let alone one in the genre he's parodying, I'd be able to buy a house and take 5 years off work to develop a game like the Stardew Valley guy.
>>749671328I liked the one based on DnD with a 20th level wizardShame it got axed, it was actually accurate to the source material.
>>749671328>another day another trapped in game slop
>>749671952MMO setting always try to pull the "unique build that no one ever try before because it go against the meta" plot. Most of the time the new OP builds will be copy instantly and then patch out by the dev
>>749672160Which one? Never heard of it
>>749671328So.. an /a/ thread?
>>749672314We are talking about video games here
>>749671328I like his other work Evil Lord way more
>>749672269Magic user: reborn in another world as a max level wizard.Has vancian casting and everything.
>>749671952The whole "Imagine you're in X but have out of X knowledge" thing is worse cancer than power level shonen shit. It clearly fucking sells though so I hate everyone involved.
>>749671328>Bland self-insert protagonistPlayers never got to see her crazy side.
Do you really think I'll let a mobuseka thread pass by without posting best girl?
>>749673287>mindbroke the author Yeah she's great
>altering the timelinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVrUIqBtg50Fate/Gears of Order
>>749671952a lot of the newer ones are written by female japs who play casual games but got pushed by their editors to write video game-related slop for their magazines
Wouldn't the Space Mercenary have been better if he'd been dropped into a low/mid-tier ship and actually gotten a chance to take risks and upgrade through doing mercenary shit instead of speedrunning a harem of bitches with his endgame ship.
Ready Player One really think that no one has ever tried run backward in a race before
>>749673758>stella online>that's clearly a Su-27 fighter jet not a spaceship though>wait did they literally trace the top image on wikipedialazy animators
>>749671328when I saw the big bang theory episode about it I assumed age of conan was something they made up for the episode, was shocked to later discover it was a real game
What I'm wondering is, do these otome games that otome isekai is parodying really exist or is the entire genre just copying shojou tropes and claiming these are otome games? I now that otome games really exist I was just asking with how they are portrayed in these kind of shows/lns?
>>749674238I'm pretty sure I read a bit where the mobuseka author played some Otome games to do research on the villainesses. The only problem was all the games he played didn't have villainesses.
>>749674238No, the otome games like those series depict don't exist. Otome games are basically visual novels with the PC is a girl instead of a boy. Most of the time the plot would center around the capturing target aka the male love interest which mean there are little reasons and time to focus on shit like jealous female antagonist. Really the tropes the otome Isekai genre copy are from shoujo, soap opera and other Otome Isekai.
>>749674238Pretty sure the closest equivalent is that love and deepspace gacha.
>>749674441I have read very few vns but don't some of them have male rivals? I would think the female equivalent would have something similar.
Trapped in a Dating Sim < I'm the Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire!
>>749674737Male rival do exist but the trope of the villainess is very specific and difference from the trope for male rival. Villainess would be characters like the evil step mother and sisters in Cinderalla. Do they exist? Yes. But common? No.
>>749671568Isekai subhumans always came with excuses for their dogshit.
>>749671952>note: Japs/koreans/chinese apparently consider dark souls the hardest game to ever existSo do westerners
>supposed to be some sort of Civ style 4x game but fantasy and has hero units
>>749674932The second one starts with ntr.
>>749675183Endless Legend?
>>749671952I think the authors play games. They just don't have any idea how to adapt these games and instead copy other isekai light novels or web novels instead.
>>749675220good motivation to become a chad in your second isekai life. she gets btfo as well.
Is there an isekai where a real-world guy gets transported into anime world?
>mobusekaFunny story: the author got btfo by his own flat girl. The dude has a massive thing for blonde big tiddy girls so he made the main antagonist a flat gremlin girl. But because the author sucks at writing the bimbo girls were so boring that the flat gremlin became the most popular girl much to the author's chagrin. Now his latest series doesn't feature a single girl under H-cup sized tits so he doesn't accidentally get btfo by another flatty.
>>749675428You just describe the entire genre
>>749675428Not that I'm aware of. Do you mean he gets isekaied to Japan but it's anime?
>>749675415if it had erufus and beastfolk people.and apparently the game is glitched and there's a random demon invasion that comes part way through the campaign.
There is a manga heavily based on rimworld. Author showed off his steam stats and he has like 3k hours in the game.
>>749675183MORE THAN WORDS CAN SAYMORE THAN WORDS CANNNN SAYThe mc is beyond lame, but the concept is amazing. The 4x main villain (european looking noble guy with long hair) or the isekai hero guy with the slave chick would've been much cooler main characters
>>749675450The worst character in the story is the male mc, I dunno how the shit didn't get axed halfway through.
Vanadis feels kinda like Fire Emblem with chad archer protag and various overpowered female hero units and different kingdoms going at each other with politics and shit.not actually an isekai.also epic battle scenes look like this because no budget.
>>749675802but at least the important things are animated.
>>749675505Most isekai are about anime-world guy gets transported into fantasy anime-world.>>749675546Yeah. The premise would be like: anime is a fictional thing in his world, so he acknowledges being isekai'd into his favorite anime or whatever.
>>749673758It would have. But the real point it goes downhill is after the inclusion of space magic (which the mc is naturally op at)
>>749675602But did he read Tynan's book?
>>749675579Conquest of Elysium?
>>749675579That's Conquest of Elysium 5
>>749671952i think i remember hearing the author of reborn as a space mercenary spent a lot of time playing elite dangerous
>>749671952You have to realize a ton of Japanese gamers are omega casuals, just shy of a streamer's audience.
>>749674106Age of Conan sounds like a fake game.
MC in Maou 2099 becomes a streamer playing a dark souls type vidya for a few episodes.setting is literally what if fantasy and cyberpunk world merged.
>>749673513I want to XXXX mysterious_heroine_x!
>>749677048That any good?
>>749675602Shame it features a raped main heroine
>>749675802NTR bait to the max
there was this off screen call of duty like game in Community set in the balkans that troy and abhed played with their new euro friend who was good at the game because he lived through that war.[/spoiler]they didn't want to hang out after they heard he made hats out of babies[/spoiler]
>Baits pathetic femdomfags by dropping the matriarchy/reverse morals shit
>>749675183It doesn't emphasize the civ style mechanics of mc's village enough. Focusing on the enemies other genres too much instead.
The game in overgeared is actually fucking Tibia with an AI game master that makes shitty content and player exclusive abilities.
>>749671328The spin off where he ends up with his sister is so much better and not because of the "incest". It is actually just better written.
>>749675891love her>>749675802Isekai and fantasy anime are much better when they don't bullshit game mechanics.Game mechanics are a simulation. It's not supposed to be a real thing in universe or would you try to insert turn based combat into your story?
>>749679479>overgeared>koreanshit
>>749671328at least with this one it makes sense given it's meant to be a trashy kusoge that no one sane would ever want to live in, which the MC is fully aware of and tries to keep a low profile so he doesn't have to deal with it (and ends up being forced to deal with it anyway because you know it's a fucking story)the amount of otome game stories/villainess stories that are just like this but have zero excuse for it though is a real damn shameone particularly common trend is the MC living a good decade and a bit of life in this new world without any memories, but one dream of their old life and suddenly it's all IN THE GAME THIS HAPPENED or JUST LIKE IN THE GAME as if they've turned into a 'just arrived here' isekai protag and not a complete reincarnation, which feels like a missed opportunity every time it happensanother is the THIS SKILL IS SO SHIT UGH LEAVE MY HOME FOREVER, which has got so bad there's an anime currently going where a guy unironically goes SSS-RANK?? THAT'S THE WORST RANK POSSIBLE!!! somehow - exiled heavy knight is the only one i can think of that's vaguely reasonable for it, and that's just because making the kit actually good requires a skill book that no one in a real world scenario is going to feed to the guy who's otherwise a kind of alright tankanyway mylene best girl
>>749680446>tibia>brazilian shit
>>749675037No, games who have a reputation as being actually ball bustingly hard are the likes of Pathologic 2 or The Void.
>>749680509Lovely hagwife.
>>749675763>The worst character in the story is the male mc
>>749674238all otome isekai/reincarnation stories that feature elaborate magic and battle systems are pulling shit out of their ass and the author never played a real otome game, as the vast majority are either vns or simulation/management games.
not entirely the point of the thread but I remember the door monster animation about fable3 making a joke on how tedious the menuing/inventory is and years later seeing a video on how some isekai had the main character scroll and click 40 second through his menu to get a healing potion.if you won't show it as a vanilla WoW 40 man raid with several rows of abilities and macro's you aren't faking it properly
>>749671328SAO is based on a bunch of real MMOs. but the author admits he never played with other people.
>>749681446That reminds me of Fate Stay Night that has in-game states but they serve no purpose because it's mostly a VN with some choices. THere are also hidden affinity but I think they only served a purpose for one choice in the Fate route, the choice isn't shown and the bad end happens if Saber's affinity at that point is too low.
>>749681634wow is practically alone in being a UI mess. Most other MMOs have so few abilities that you struggle to fill 9 slots. And then there are the ones designed with consoles in mind, like ff14, where each update actively removes abilities so you can fit all of them on the four face buttons of a controller.
>>749681917I thought he played with other people but was never good at them? And these games were from the 90s.
>>749671328I wonder just how few stories about mmo isekai are written by people who have actually played an mmo. They're always full of stupid stuff that no mmo would do.The heavy knight one going on now is especially retarded. They kill bosses in a couple good hits and then gain multiple levels at a time. Doesn't make any sense why everyone isn't max level.
what game deserves a jap manga adaptationi am waiting for factorio (or any adjacent factory game)>>749676532it's kinda shit start to current time but it's my flavor of slop because i like bitches and i like space ships>>749674932true, by a lotbut intergalactic evil lord is 0% video game>>749675183>>749675415age of wonders mayhaps
>>749682197in the grimdark present there is only ARPGs/hero shooters with no more than 4 abilities
Never leave bad reviews on obscure games. They might be made by some bored god and he WILL reincarnate you into his kusoge as punishment.
>>749682297in heavy knight, it is implied people did that regularly in the game. The people in the isekai world don't do that because dying is permanent, so they do risky stuff like challenging overleveled content a lot less often. He directly coments on how the way people of the isekai world "play" and judge gear and classes is more similar to the game's release year than when he played, which had more solved metas and farming.
>>749671328If this series will ever have a game, I'd play it.It has even multiple routes it can adapt to.
>>749683047FLAT
>>749680615Ah, yes, of course. How silly of me to not remember all the videos and game journo articles calling games "the pathologic 2 of [genre]" yeah. No, no, those are massive, very talked about games, unlike the little known, niche title Dark Souls. Yeah, their devs even became associated with the very concept of difficulty in video games to the general masses, unlike From.
>>749683047Would you pay for cheat items?
>>749683342for a guy who bitches about his sister, he's perfectly fine with throwing his money at the game just so he can complete it for her
>>749683342>cheat itemsWhat a bullshit term. Dev will not put items that can break the game just so it can cash out an extra buck.
>>749683435Once he found out Marie was his sister he was constantly giving her money. It's no surprise that rumors of them having an affair spread.
>>749683047>little sister has massive mammaries>big sister is supposed to be flatHm
>>749673287why doesn't he fuck his sister?
>>749673287That's not Mylene
>>749675450that's great
>>749683435He's a goddamn tsundere closet siscon, much like the author.There's a reason why he wrote the same antagonist to be the MC's flat-chested little sister two separate times.I bet she bullies him when they were kids and had to resort writing stuff just to calm his anger issues.
>>749683983that'd explain why his solution isn't just fuck the brat out of her then, can't exactly do that in real life after all
>>749671328isekai is truly kino of the highest order
>>749673287>>749683813>the two most popular characters are the small gremlin and the voluptuous hagWhat's with the dichotomy?
>>749675450The artist for the manga adaptation is pretty based. He loves heug women and is good enough that I follow what he's working on rather than the author.
>>749671328All these things are so low creativly that I feel like it unironically takes talent to debase yourself in that way. To be so committed to not doing anything interesting that you stick to the formula these "people" somehow enjoy seeing over and over and over
>>749684376he needs to fuck his sister
>>749684376
>>749684771First, that's his cousin.And second, he's clussy property.
>>749684376I actually prefer sliders, but nips haven't taken that pill and its fallen out of favor in the west
>>749671328Live Dungeon is a manga about a guy who is the ultimate healer sterotype. The kind of guy who would let you die if you do dumb stuff.Log horizon is the best example. Written by a guy who actually played MMOs.https://youtu.be/rVN-z9C3g9Q
>>749684903true, but it WOULD solve the problem of her being an uppity little shit so he should do it anyway
>>749671328It really drives me nuts that these isekai make parodies of games with it's systems, but they are closer to DnD than actual video games. AnywayI actually like that isekai sloppa. Angie best girl
>>749684376>Gets so angry he starts speaking in nipponese KEK
>>749671328I hate this shit because it always looks down on "the meta" like its a bad thing.the meta is always the most optimal path, which is why everyone does it.If these "authors" ever actually touched a game they would know that there is only ever one way to play games, and that is the meta.
>>749686719I haven't read any that complain about the meta. At most, i've seen characters complaining about powerful abilities because they cannot get them (due to plot/requirements/DA SYSTEM.
>>749671952Why doesn't anyone make an original isekai game as a game an actual kino kusoge?Why is it always generic dogshit licensed bullshit?
>>749685007They should just ditch the mc and be lesbians.
not sure whats the point of this thread but may as well post this here
>>749672974it cracked me up when they are testing compatibility with a machine (like those RPG extras like in Fire Emblem that tests characters with a heart meter) and the heroine duo step on it and the thing goes over the cap and he mistakenly assumes they love each other and he had never a chance. Goes to war sulking that all this time he thought one of them might like him and wishes them happiness.
>>749684952I tried playing healer in XIV for a whileNormally I partied with my friend who loves the tank classes and all was wellBut whenever I rolled with randoms I kept getting tanks that pulled THE ENTIRE DUNGEON and couldn't keep up
>>749687552>he doesn't know
>>749684952>>749688078i have never played mmos, but i like these mangas about mmos.i feel like it's better than playing an mmo
>>749687681And in the end even death didn't offer him an escape from those two.
>>749682165it is mentioned that the stats sheet is how each mage processes the information so they can understand what's going on. Shirou just parses it as a tabletop sheet because he knows no better.
>>749687552Basically already the case since the MC has never once shown interest in them for some reason.
>>749673758I mean he does exactly that, his ship is end-game but only the smallest class, so it's quite limited in what it can do. He buys more (and bigger) ships later to start a small fleet.
>>749688510The Black Lotus was nice.
>>749687617Damn, imagine getting whipped by all that hair
for me it's the dwarf twins
>>74968879327 yo btw
>fake games in asian media are all fantasy RPGs>fake games in western media are all crime simulatorsWhat gives?
>>749688793damn is this the ln art? they look mamezou-coded
>>749689008Fantasy rpgs trigger the autism of the asians and westernerns are too much influenced by nigger culture.
>>749671328oh hey i remember reading this one like almost a decade agopretty bad like everything else
>>749684376i beg to differ... isekai BAD (unironically)
>Best exampleLog Horizon being pretty chill and mechanically deep for a MMO that's practically RuneScape or Albion. At least for the parts where they were originally a game.>Worst ExampleThat one retarded episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit where a guy gets accused of assaulting a woman, there is absolutely no evidence on this guy. But they search his PC and find out he was developing a GTA clone where they play the build in the middle of the court room showcasing that you can harm women in that game and the confesses on the spot like if it was the cartoon of a sociopath having fun being caught. A lot of people associated for a while later with this garbage that "if you like to play videogames in general, then you like to beat women" like if every single game was GTA.
>>749688078Their argument is that it takes too long to aggro only some of the monsters at a time. NVM that DPS means that it will take the same amount of seconds regardless.
>>749689425I always saw Law & Order as bullshit fed propaganda and pro-surveillance propaganda.
>>749689425>>749684952I wish there was more Log Horizon.It covers so many weird logic holes, like the NPCs having lives, there only being a set amount of music in the world, actually manually using your skills instead of just menuing your skills specifically about food, the cost of death being "Experience" results in losing memories, why there is infinite money in the world and where its kept, different servers, bots and secondary characters.I'm sure if he ever came back to the series he'd call out even more weird shit.
Mobsekai or Oreaku?Which one was the superior isekai shit?Both were by the same author anyway.I like Mobsekai better because lion is simply a more amusing character to follow over liam.
>>749690416The author sure does love his robomaids.
>>749688793HOW IS THAT A DWARF
>>749690796this is rape
>>749690796he got super played by the robots in this arc
>>749691095He meant as in "sufferer of dwarfism", you do know dwarves are a real thing, right?
>>749691364yeah bro elves are real too
It depicts final fantasy 11 pretty well
It can be worse.>Otomege setting>None of the male characters ever do anything to the female ones.>Even when they are very interestedThese motherfuckers have no idea how horny otomeges can get.
>>749691582Dwarves are people who have dwarfism. The characters in the image look like people with dwarfism (tiny hands and feet on a large torso with a large head). They are visually based on the condition and not the fantasy race, regardless of the lore.
>>749687386How would you do this? Any ideas?
>>749691268Humans owe robots sex.
>>749691869blud actually thinks he is in an isekai world, what's your cheat ability? being more retarded than anyone else?
>>749691095
>>749692089STATUS, OPENSYSTEM, REVEAL THE DATA ENTRY FOR DWARFISMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfismhttps://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dwarfism/symptoms-causes/syc-20371969I'm sorry you had to find out this way. but I am the player and you are merely an NPC in my world.
>>749692546no status screen opened when you said that.take your meds
>>749692378Why does the protagonist look 50 years old in this page?
Was a fun readAlso games need companions like this
>>749673287I seen the anime but i dont get the fascination over her
>>749691812know any good otome or josei vidya??? i've been a touch interested but never properly looked into them
>>749693127Don't worry about it.
>>749671952You can tell isekai authors haven’t played any video games when they say things like how healers are useless and have parties kick out their only healer, when anyone who has played any RPG knows how STUPID that is.
>>749693738>when anyone who has played any RPG knows how STUPID that isNot only RPG, if you played any multiplayer game you know how important healers are.
>>749693634The thing is she and her goons were a bunch of jobbers and i did not care about the whole teehee i am actually related to mc thing.So i will assume they had her go into some actual character growth arc because otherwise she is boring trash
>>749671328I am one of the 3 niggas who watches all the otome slop anime every season, no matter how dead the threads are, and I would want to hunt down the exact game that cursed me of consuming this wretched genre.
>>749693738the narrative in most of these isn't that healers aren't important but that incompetent noob teams underestimate how they contribute to the adventure in general. You usually notice that the "guild" or whatever competent group managing these teams have a superior evaluation that favors most healers or similar support roles and once they are kicked out they are almost instantly put in a much better position. It isn't really about just healers, but tanks and other non front liner roles. There's even stories where rogues are treated as shit because they aren't seen spamming AoE attacks. Most characters in the setup would understand how important they are except the incompetent first party they were part of.
>>749671328>totally changes art style after the first season>both seasons have a lot of still shots sigh
>>749694304Start reading otome webnovels if you want more. There is a lot of otomeslop that never gets adapted.
>>749693127You might be tired of constantly hearing this, but the anime stopped right before the best arc that really shine her character.Also the lead 3 wives are really that bland and interchangeable. Marie and Leon unironically have better chemistry than those 3.
>>749694381And to be fair, you do see retards like that in hero shooters like paladins. Who will blame the healer for a team loss because he dealt so much damage (in some bumfuck part of the map that you couldn't score in and where the healer would've had to abandon the rest of the party to heal them)
>>749671328When I Was Reincarnated as a Villainous Noble Doomed to Ruin: How I Made Elves, Beastmen, and Vampires My Maids really is great.
>>749694523But I want that game all these slops are referring to.The one with the grand party, the annulment, the condemnation and the reverse harem these slutty heroines are always trying to do.
>>749694629I think he had some decent chemistry with Noelle. since he would actually flirt with her, and take her out even if he didn't think of it as a date.
