https://store.epicgames.com/news/epic-games-launcher-preview
>>749674525does it work with heroic, I don't want to install epic spyware
>*gabe newell impressed*
Usecase for this? Do you niggas really play that shit? I thought people just gooned to Fortnite porn instead of playing kind of like Overwatch and Marwel Rivals.
>they're forced to support Linux nowValve won
>>749674525actually based.
>>749674741>Usecase for this?making pajeetsoft afraid
>>749674741I don't play it, but more devs supporting Linux is good.
>>749674578If they're fixing up eac I'd assume it would work
>>749674758>forcedby who?
>>749674525>just install this rootkit
This is great news for all the 12 year olds who use Arch.
>Big long list of "security" features for EAC that can just be bypassed with a custom "cheaterOS" that lies about the state of the system
>>749675185By it becoming a larger market
>>749675297Yeah and everyone knows it's impossible to cheat on windows
>>749675297Kernel anti cheats don't stop any actual good cheats and are literal malware
>>749674809>>749674837yes because all the 15 year olds will go into terminal to install linux? retardation of this place is amusing sometimes
>>749674525>"Please give us full kernel level access to your Linux filesystems, we totally won't do anything naughty, honest."
>>749675564you just download an iso and put it on your ventoy stick. there is no "terminal" involved
>>749675564It clearly states they're making the changes available to other developers. Why are you projecting your own retardation?
>>749674525This means a lot of multiplayer games could come to linuxTimmy doing something useful for once, look at that
>>749675962How though? They still want to be in the kernel
>>749675562Correct. Cheaters are dirtbags, but anti-cheat is the bigger evil as it's fucking malware. Anti-cheat devs should jump off a bridge and I cannot wait for the influx of cheaters on Fortnite Linux
>>749674525EAC already works on linux, just not on kernel level. Fuck off timmy, I'm not giving you access.
This absolute fucking laundry list of requirements just so they can get as close to kernel-level access on Linux as possible.https://onlineservices.epicgames.com/news/introducing-easy-anti-cheat-linux-v2
Wait, you are telling me you couldn't play the most successful media product ever on Linux before? I thought you retards said that LITERALLY EVERYTHING is playable!!!
>>749676695>LITERALLY EVERYTHING is playable*single player
>>749676695>you couldn't play the most successful media product ever on Linux before?you can play Pac-Man with MAME since forever though...?
>>749674525fuck fortnite, the knock on effect of easy anti cheat having linux support has way greater ramifications
>>749677295You unironically think Pac Man is bigger than Fortnite?
>>749677487Yes.
>>749676695linux doesn't allow spyware into the kernela good practice
>>749676695>most successful media product?
>>749677547lol lmaohttps://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-insights-how-telemetry-is-changing-on-ubuntu-desktop/73442
>>749677648Those are franchises, products are individual parts of those franchises. For example Pokemon is the biggest franchise, however Pokemon Red is nothing compared to Fortnite
>>749677759>ubuntu2004 called they want their meme distro back
>>749677803>linux doesn't allow spyware into the kernel
>>749674525linux chads can't stop winning
>>749674525>timmy comes crawling back to linux after shitting on it for yearsgood to know that pile of shit is finally dying
>>749677759>kernellook, i know you're really looking for an own but you should've read that sentence to the end
Didn't see that coming, I like clowning on Timmy but that's a good move.
>>749677803ubuntu is the most used distro archtranny
>>749674525>programming is hard so we vibe coded a new Epic Games Launcherbold of them to admit they're a company of retards>comparing the boot time of featureless launcher to steamlmao
>>749677974I used xubuntu before it went to shitit's a has-been distro, let it go
Still not using troonix
>>749674525not interested
>>749674525that's pretty big, finally gets loonix users a foot in the doorif they get a sizable user gain then other devs will have to allow it aswell
>>749674525I'm still not playing your game Timmy, I don't care if you cater to my OS
>1. Signed Kernel & Kernel Modules>A custom kernel can easily be modified to bypass integrity checks and return false data to anti-cheat. That’s why we require that the kernel binary in use during anti-cheat protected gameplay is signed with a well-known key.>mfw I compile my own kernel on gentoo so Timmy's kernel anticheat spyware won't work
>>749678836don't worry, i'm sure that cachyos will release v3 and v4 kernels that will get signed so the slop is never out of reach
>>749676648You're dumb as fuck. These are features that already exist in Linux. this isn't some closed-source kernel module. Instead of injecting their own closed source code into your kernel space, they are requiring the operating system itself to enforce strict integrity. This is a good approach.
>>749679031The OS integrity is none of their business.
>>749677487>Been around since the 70s>Multiple games in the franchise>Spawned a shit ton of copy cats>Had it's own toy line>Had it's own cartoon series>Had snacks and treats in its image>Still relevant todayYes, you retard.
>>749679031>These are features that already exist in Linux.Most of them aren't used in most distros. Not really sure what your point is. It's invasive in any case.
>>749679241>>749679329Good thing you aren't you aren't forced to use those features then?This is as good as it gets for this anti-cheat, there's no closed source binary running with kernel privileges
>>749679329>normalfag distros are going to gladly enable all these features and let their users get assfuckedcan't wait
>>749678836and so it beginsthese "requirements" are not staying exclusive to fortnite lmao
>>749679602>This is as good as it gets for this anti-cheatHave it run server side.
>>749679329Invasive how? Those are all optional open source security features maintained by Linux kernel developers
>>749679820>Have it run server side.So you have no idea how multiplayer games work
>>749676648this isn't that bad honestlyif i had to compare it to windows, it'd be like having cameras pointed at your house while windows has cameras inside your housethey're looking at what comes out of your system, not what's in it
>>749674525i dont really care about fortnite, but i do remember thinking that one fortnie lego game they have seemed pretty neat. so thats nice
>>749680056So you don't. Call of Duty is literally doing just that in MW4. You don't get to know about players you cannot possibly see
>From now on every EAC game needs TPM secure boot botnet mode enabledGee THANKS TIM
not terrible, even with all the security bullshit you have to enable it easily beats running the game on windows regardless.If you exclusively keep your gaming stuff separate on its own pc (which more people should be doing btw) and more games support EAC on linux going forwards, dualbooting might be dead.
>>749681930Server culling doesn't stop aimbots or memory tampering, retardThe moment an enemy steps around a corner or becomes visible, the server must send that enemy's 3D coordinates to your computer so your GPU can draw them on your screen
>>749676648Uhh epic knows all that shit doesn't work, right? People were hacking BF6 day one and it uses all that plus kernel level on windows.
>>749684482It's not about whether or not it works. It's about the optics they can sell to devs and publishers.
>>749684448>memory tamperingthe server owns the game state, anyone not doing this is a retard and deserves cheaters.>aimbotso no worse than CV aimbots which get around kernel shit anyways.
>>749684846Holy retard. You fundamentally don't understand how multiplayer games work.Server authority stops game state manipulation (god mode, speed hacks, spawning items). It does almost nothing to stop input automation (aimbots, recoil scripts) or local information extraction (wallhacks, radar hacks). If the server had to process every line of sight check, raycast occlusion, physics calculation, and input curve for dozens of players at high tick rates without trusting client rendering calculations at all, the latency would be unplayable.
>>749685652NTA, but anti-cheat doesn't stop any of those either.
>>749676695>>749677295The most successful media product is Pokemon, and you could emulate every game on Linux already.
>>749685769It can, but it's always a race between cheats and anti-cheatWhat does effectively is lowering barrier of entry, image if public cheats weren't banned immediately
>>749674525WINNINGS!!!!
>>749685652>It does almost nothing to stop input automation (aimbots, recoil scripts)Which can all be externalized and immune to kernel anti-cheat.>local information extraction (wallhacks, radar hacksWhich is exactly what server side culling fights.>If the server had to process every line of sight check, raycast occlusion, physics calculation, and input curve for dozens of players at high tick rates without trusting client rendering calculations at all, the latency would be unplayable.That's Epic's problem and doesn't justify their nigger malware
>>749686142EAC Linux v2 isn't a kernel anti-cheat though.
>shit on steam for years>but will still use proton to get their games to run on linuxhmmmmmmmm
>>749686792>after shitting on linux users for years and convincing other devs that they're all just cheaters*
>>749686389Still a service that doesn't need to be running in the background. Once you implement everything server side you can that's all you need to do. Everything else is unnecessary spyware
>>749685978pokemon is a franchise
>all the gacha games that are currently basically running without anticheat will stop working and will need signed kernels and secure boot and I'll not be able to run any dkms modules anymore and who knows what elsegreatjust fucking amazing
>>749687379i genuinely do not understand how every was brainwashed into secure boot being a thing
>>749674525>we vibeslopped so hard we bringing rootkits to linux knowTimmy-sama, I kneer
>>749687769Vibe gods stay winning
>>749687608Microsoft of course.>>749679602Thank god being able to trust the OS over the end user is only useful for anti cheat and there is no widespread desire for something like this to avoid being swamped in bots, and even if there was there is no single point to push enforcement through.
>>749674741Maybe fortnight is not that relevant, but them making the effort to actually make usable EAC builds for linux is a good thing, tho.That's literally 99% of the issues devs have with linux since for starters they don't port the games to linux, and when you run them through wine, they're running in the userland, so you can run cheats pretty easily, although I can guarantee that devs who said most linux users are cheaters are lying through their teeth.
>>749677974>ubuntu is the most used distro archtrannyIt is, yes, but only on corpos for people who don't want an extremely locked down windows.
>>749687608Because bootkits were very much a serious threat back before it. Doesn't mean it's justified as a anticheat thing though
>>749674525>linuxfags finally get to play EAC games>they're doing nothing but bitchingi thought you guys wanted to play video games?
>Epic Game Launcher officially supports Ubuntu, Fedora and DebianLmao, Epic officially supports more distros than Valve
>>749688412All of those are shit distros though. Most linux gamers are on Arch Linux or distros based on it.
>>749675185By The Invisible Hand itself
>>749687379Wait, secureboot precludes dkms modules? Fuck, my sensors...
>All of those are shit distros though. Most linux gamers are on Arch Linux or distros based on it.
>>749689480You're just proving me right and Tim is proving how out of touch with gamers he actually is.
>>749674525Gabe won
>>749689259not by itself, nobut the plan is to use secureboot to verify a kernel and then that kernel will verify all the modules
>>749690093Well I literally need the custom nct6687d module just for fan control on my board...
>>749688347I could already play EAC games without all of this shit, provided the dev let me (by checking a box).
>>749690370B-B-But it's not as secure as the kernel level Windows version!>[Conveniently ignores people cheating day one on new releases using kernel level EAC on Windows]
>>749688347I can play videogames just fine without remote munching nigger trying to steal my data with malware. Also, live services are malware and not videogames.
>>749688347>Linux gets an anti cheatI can finally play multipla->But you can't use it to cheat so you can't use your cheating distro or your cheating hardware NOOOO YOU CANT DO THIS TO MEKind of cool of Tim to do this, but I'd rather they just keep the cheating linuxjeets entirely out of my games altogether.
>>749691516Nobody wants to jump through multiple burning hoops just to play with cheating wintoddlers anyway.
>>749691516i wish i understood wincucks trying to push this angle when microsoft's CEO is a jeet
>>749674978>https://www.phoronix.com/news/Easy-Anti-Cheat-Better-Linuxthey are
>>749674525>working with distro maintainers on security requirementsLet me guess... they want their anti-cheat slop in the kernels shipped by distros? Which distros are they working with? So I can avoid those...
>>749694484Everything except arch, the only one people actually use (cachyOS, SteamOS).
>>749674525For what purpose? Ain't nobody on Linux going to be interested in Fornig.
>>749694484it's just going to mean that they're going to sign their kernels and epic is going to whitelist that signature
