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Wallmasters have a disco ball now so that even a baby can avoid them lol
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>combat literally not changed at all except even easier with the shield being automatically up, more attacks you can block and hitstunning enemies
Wtf were they thinking?
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doomposters are really reaching for anything, huh?
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>>749675498
How is this reaching?
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>Game for babies is now for dumber babies
okay
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>>749675368
it unironically is the babby version of oot. the whole new art style is supposed to look like plastic dolls
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>>749675578
perfect for gen A
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>>749675578
>Game for babies
Blood, zombie outbreaks, torture chambers, puzzles and dungeons every adult person gets filtered by on their first playthrough (post a blind playthrough that shows otherwise), sexual innuendos, religious theming, bittersweet story and only bad endings in the lore

Only white trash would let their toddler play it. Stay mad about a 30 y/o game though
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>>749675368
Does it has yellow paint too?
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>>749675368
No way kek
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>>749675368
They probably want to avoid genuinely jumpscaring anyone.
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>>749675368
Good morning sirs
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>>749675914
You really are a pathetic retard if you think Zelda isn't a children's franchise.
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>>749676151
Idk what a children's franchise is and we both know you glaze every shitty mascot game on your Sega and Sony consoles so kys and stay obsessed with the GOAT instead of just ignoring these threads
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>Wallmasters have a disco ball now so that even a baby can avoid them lol
as opposed to snoy moviegames where the game plays itself lol
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>>749675368
>>749675486
the way journos try to avoid saying anything negative in the hands on previews is sending me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wVFM-r7Zw
this fag has an entire segment on combat and doesn't even tell us anything about blocking because he knows the only thing you can say about it is how overpowered it is and that this gameplay makes no sense after 15 years of souls-like games. also
>shits on original game because muh waiting
>apparently somehow doesn't know you can just hookshot skulltulas
>"the perfect way to rerelease this game!"
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>>749676274
Seems like you're the one who ignored the thread, which is about how this remake is for the babies who were too baby for the original baby game.

>The sliding block puzzle to reveal the green Poe no longer has a time limit, but the extra block that’s meant to fake you out is slightly more interesting now.
>A torch puzzle that used to involve spinning platforms has been redone without the rotating elements.
>Instead of hookshotting onto a tree branch, Link aims at a more traditional hookshot target above the temple’s front door. Pairing this with a similar example, where in the Great Deku Tree Link shoots an eyeball target instead of a ladder, it seems the remake is more intent on teaching us how to use these items on recognizable, intended targets rather than parts of the world players might not think to interact with.

Incredible.
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>>749675368
I don't care too much about the wallmaster thing, but on the top right we only have one usable sub-item at a time. This is complete bullshit. Fuck you Nintendo.
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>>749675368
Literally every time I hear or see something new about this remake it's another casualization. Who the fuck is this for?
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>>749676435
Maybe, it looks like there's just a dedicated ocarina button now though on the left. Maybe they did that with some other items too to reduce how much you have to pause and change items.
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>>749675368
That is just...fucking disgusting. I almost feel insulted ON BEHALF OF THE WALLMASTER.
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>>749675939
Weak spots fucking GLOW now, does that count?
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>>749676505
No it's literally the BOTW system that blows dog dick
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>>749676408
>>Instead of hookshotting onto a tree branch, Link aims at a more traditional hookshot target above the temple’s front door.
unironically game-breaking. so much sauce in these little details and organic elements, imagine deliberately smashing all of it with the formulaic sledgehammer. they should've added MORE of this kinda stuff instead they remove what is there lmao
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>>749676151
just because it's visually more cartoon/anime, it's still a lot darker than you think.
it's a game made for both children and adults
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>>749676667
Like I keep saying. They BOTW'd the fucking SOUL out of this thing. Yeesh.
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>>749676654
oh no... not this shit again
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>>749676408
>Seems like you're the one who ignored the thread, which is about how this remake is for the babies who were too baby for the original game.
True
>original baby game
No that's what you want to turn it into because OoT fucked your manchild fanboy brain. You had 30 years to cope about that
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>>749676792
FUCKING PROBABLY. JUST WATCH. THEY'RE GONNA REMOVE DEAD MAN'S VOLLEY. CALLING IT NOW.
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>>749676480
kek
not for OG enjoyers, that's for sure
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>>749676814
>No that's what you want to turn it into because OoT fucked your manchild fanboy brain.
I'm a manchild because I'm not going to buy and obsess over the remake of a game I beat and enjoyed as a child? Or are you a manchild because you feel personally attacked by a few random people on the internet making fun of a kids toy a big company made that you've made part of your actual identity?

See if you can solve that puzzle.
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>>749676872
WELL IT AIN'T A GLOWING DEATH BALL ANYMORE. I JUST FOUND THIS OUT.
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>>749676435
more item slots isn't necessarily better, just makes the game easier. weighing what to equip and what not and having to deal with the pause menu if you can't is part of it
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>>749675368
So its just ocarina again but ugly and even easier.
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>>749676435
wasn't it showcased before that items are equipped through an item wheel now or something?
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>>749676924
>I'm a manchild
Because OoT fucked your manbaby brain and you have to make every thread about it, yes. Still waiting for that blind playthrough, stfu till then and seek a shrink. No one, absolutely no one, cares to hear "erm, this 99% Metacritic game is actually bad and for babies." Nobody's time is that worthless except yours
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>>749675368
>wtf why is this game for children so easy
nintendo adults are so fucking retarded
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>>749677197
by your logic it was always for children. doesn't explain why they make it so much easier. dumb snoy adult
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>>749677007
If I have to scroll like in botw, it's interrupting gameplay flow for the sake of simplicity, which is bad and wrong. I liked botw, but inventory management was the absolute worst part of the game from a gameplay perspective. I think the Zelda games that got it right are the 3DS games.
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>>749677197
so, from a childrens game to a baby game?
what a fucking downgrade
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>>749677275
no shit it was always for children. you are complaining about a game for 7 year olds
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>>749675368
Anything actually interesting from the new previews? Any new mechanics? New content? Actually big dungeon changes?
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>>749675914
>Blood, zombie outbreaks, torture chambers
>sexual innuendos, religious theming, bittersweet story
Naruto has all of this and it's a children's franchise. Same for most popular battle shonen. Just because it's not for literal toddlers doesn't mean it's not for kids.
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>>749677154
I never said it was bad, I actually said I enjoyed it right here >>749676924. I said it was for kids. There's no problem with making games for kids, but it's odd to still be playing games meant for kids well into your 20s or 30s. There are a lot of games out there with challenges and puzzles meant for adults.

Also, blind playthroughs of what specifically? You said there were "puzzles and dungeons every adult person gets filtered by on their first playthrough" but didn't mention anything specific.
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>>749677347
The big 3 battle shonen are mostly consumed by 30-50 year olds.
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>>749675368
They're colorful and clowny even compared to the 3DS ones.
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>>749676480
A good remake would of made the terrain look warped from erruptions to explain why it's up there and make it so you can only see it from the bridge, which would also be longer and narrower.
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>>749677337
the z-target boulder tutorial to get the kokiri sword is now a jump tutorial
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>>749677520
WHY DID THEY EVEN ADD A FUCKING JUMP? GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.
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>>749677560
because BotW and TotK has it.
now every subsequent zelda game has to have it
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>>749677668
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. THEY COULDN'T EVEN MAKE IT THE ROCS FEATHER OR SOMETHING!? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
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>>749677409
>I enjoy it but I also call it a game for dumb babies and derail threads criticizing making it even easier/less enjoyable
You aren't even making any sense, OoT raped your low-IQ brain too much over the years
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>>749677715
"supposedly" the feather link has attached to his cap now is the roc's feather but that's probably cope from those people
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>>749677881
Roc's Feather was a Capcom item. Fat fucking chance lol.
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>>749677337
Room where you fight the skeleton dudes no longer has a big hole in the center, instead it's a goofy out of place acid pool that barely hurts you.
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>>749677758
You can't read, that's why you're in your 30s playing a game for children. I hope you enjoy the remake, hope you can get past the Forest Temple and see the rest of the game now.
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>>749677491
>the new content is shitty room with trophies for the 20 enemies the game has
>people actually expected a whole new world or at least new dungeons
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>>749678021
OH THAT'S SOME FUCKING BULLSHIT. COME ON!
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>>749678000
?
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>>749675556
It's reaching just as much as the Wallmaster.
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>>749678021
to give them some credit that room was always a bit jank because the skeletons could just float over the pit
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>>749677317
and you are here because you are a pedophile looking for 7 year olds?
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>>749678206
least demented zelda fan
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>>749678160
Right. I forgot that the Oracle games came out SECOND.
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The last thread was shunted to page 10 and killed off by the mods so I imagine the people who did that are gonna flood this one.
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>>749678269
>still monitoring thread for 7 year olds as he says
leave the kids alone and delete your discord, pedo
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>>749678318
Meanwhile, MY thread is still getting hard targeted by the fucking jannies for seemingly NO fucking reason. Is this board ALWAYS this fucking terrible? I know it's usually bad but holy shit.
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>>749678180
Surely they could give enemies real pathfinding in 2026 though
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>>749678180
They're basically apparitions in skeleton form that might as well float. Animating just would've been unnecessary work and a mess to pull off visually. But yeah not the worst change.
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>>749678414
This.
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>>749678398
me too.
i do more video game threads than most others around here, but i'm the one getting my threads deleted sometimes with a three day ban
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>>749678507
Well, I'd give you a link to mine, but they deleted the last link I tried to post.
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>>749678452
oh yeah? they also made zelda float over pits in the escape sequence.
they were just lazy to give them any animations or put a invisible wall for enemies only on certain areas
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>>749676375
>after 15 years of souls-like games
Anon nobody cares about souls any more, everyone has souls fatigue. The worst thing they could have done would have been to give the game souls combat, it would have been lambasted
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What makes Nintendo think an ancient ladder dispenser and another eye puzzle is better experiential gameplay than the dungeon's enemy forces using their tools to thwart the protagonist?
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>>749677409
>it's odd to still be playing games meant for kids well into your 20s or 30s.
Games ostensibly for people in their 20s and 30s very often baby you more and are more patronising than games ostensibly for kids or all ages, particularly in instances like this where the latter is relatively old. In any case, very few games scratch the itches that Zelda does regardless of their target audience, so it shouldn't seem odd that it appeals to as wide an age range as it does.
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>>749678828
>Nintendo
You mean Rajesh and Sanjib
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>>749676872
it is still there
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>>749678621
So ghost skeletons and a witch.
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>>749678910
It got fucking retard-proofed. It's not a goddamn ball of DEATH anymore, apparently. They may as well have just fucking removed it, if they were gonna go THAT far.
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>>749678872
Marvel's Wolverine was an eyeopener for just how babyfied games meant for 20-30 year olds could really be.
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Are we back with the

>It's okay to be low quality because it's for babies

Fallacy shills love to use to deflect criticism? This can easily be disproven with

>Just because it's for babies doesn't mean it must be low quality. Also, where did you hear it was for babies? Nintendo?
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>>749675578
>game for nintendo fans is now for modern tendies
makes perfect sense
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>>749675368
The reason why discussion about this game can't exist is because you retards won't take 2 seconds to think about something before you say it.

It was NEVER difficult to avoid wallmasters. The game made it very obvious when they were about to drop. The reason the new change is bad is NOT because it trivializes something that used to be difficult. It's bad because it just looks bad. The growing shadow was great and ominous and there was no reason to change it to something so garish and ugly.

But if you try and start the thread with "lol they made it easier", the trajectory of the discussion is going to completely miss the point that should have been made.
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>>749678180
That was the entire point, you're in a haunted house
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>>749676480
its not even a puzzle lol. OMG LOOK AT RANDOM SPOT ABOVE YOU
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>>749679104
Literally, you wouldn't get grabbed if you didn't just fucking sit there and pick your fucking nose or something.
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>>749677491
I am worried for how dead hand will look
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>>749675368
OP is a disingenuine fag acting like you couldn't see the shadow beneath your feet growing as the wallmaster approached.
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>>749679148
spotting shit is 90% of puzzles in point and click games
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>>749679223
A shadow makes sense. Where does this light come from? Does the Wallmaster is recording his fall to instagram or something?
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>>749679194
You REALLY think they're gonna keep Dead Hand?
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>>749679223
>a shadow is the same as..........a disco spotlight beam...because it just is ok
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>>749679282
Why not? They make everything look like toys and nothing is left to your imagination anymore. I wonder if there will be a drop of blood though.
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>>749679374
In terms of making the game easier or more difficult, they are exactly the same.
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>>749679104
>>749679223
The shadow growing and the sound both made thematic sense and were something you had to pay an iota of attention to, and would catch first timers offguard constantly.
This both looks terrible and is way too obvious, i want the Modern Gamer hanged.
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>>749679492
The blood was already scrubbed out in the 3ds version, no chance.
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>>749679492
Dead Hand was fucking HORRIFYING, no matter HOW it looked. You have to get grabbed for the bitch the reveal itself. NOTHING about that bitch is "child friendly".
>>749679606
also this.
>>749679548
same
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>>749679503
considering one is much easier to miss, especially the first time it happens to you and on a crt back then, no. your mom drank while pregnant
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>>749679040
>Fallacy shills love to use to deflect criticism?
It's not (only) shills, it's mostly the mentally retarded Sega manchild who seethes about Ocarina of Time for well over a decade now. He just wants to shit on OoT for the sake of shitting on it (also SNES/N64/GC games in general). Calling him out here >>749677758
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>>749676480
>Casualization
>In a game already made for kids
If this is the only nitpick people can swing at the remake then that's a positive sign.
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>>749679503
bullshit, get the fuck outta here. You CANNOT miss this shit. You can get distracted and forget to pay attention to the shadow in the OG, which will get you grabbed.
>>749679664
Unfortunately, she CLEARLY didn't drink enough, becaues he lived long enough to become everybody else's problem.
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>>749679664
If you ever got grabbed by one, even after Navi SPECIFICALLY TOLD YOU WHAT TO LOOK FOR, your parents were probably related.
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>>749679728
See >>749675914 and stop samefagging
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>>749676375
Not to mention
>shits on original game because muh waiting
>immediately talks about how skulltulas in the remake make you wait even longer
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>>749679282
why wouldn't they keep dead hand, wallmaster is still pretty visibly a disembodied hand
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>>749678905
I'll be pretty surprised if this is true. Based on all the insider news, it really does seem that Nintendo is doing it internally with cooperation from Monolith Soft.
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>>749679747
Trying to look down that hole STILL occasionally gets me grabbed because I get distracted easily.

And I LIKE it that way. If my dumbass deserves to get grabbed, goddammit, I'm gonna get grabbed, and I am fine with that.
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>>749679747
>SPECIFICALLY TOLD YOU WHAT TO LOOK FOR
monsters on ceilings, not shadows teleporting you to the entrance to the dungeon if they get too big. there is a reason they changed it
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>>749679838
Dead hand is a whole DIFFERENT level and type of horror and stress. I was a VERY skittish child. I literally had nightmares about the initial grab in that fight for WEEKS. Wallmasters were a "SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT ok I'm safe now" type deal.
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>>749678815
Speak for yourself dumbass. I have Nintendo gameplay fatigue. I'd rather something souls like that at least tries to have meaningful combat mechanics or at least ones that punish the player for fucking up rather than braindead shit that makes every encounter feel the same

The people most hyped for this are old and grown up now
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>>749675368
Wow they just made the scariest enemy for me when I was a kid an absolute fucking joke.
Sasuga jewtendo
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>>749679842
>Based on all the insider news, it really does seem that Nintendo is doing it internally
No it doesn't.
>from Monolith Soft
You shills just love dropping that name even though there is zero evidence huh? If Monolith made anything it's the Deku Tree room and the background of Hyrule Field and that's it.
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>>749675368
the hand is gay now
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>>749678872
Fair point honestly. I'm not sure what particular itch Zelda scratches so I dunno what I'd recommend, but modern games are definitely also both designed for 20-30 year olds and also for babies since that's almost the same demo with how dumb everybody is now.
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>>749679747
>>749679743
>>749679548

This is exactly what I was talking about here >>749679104

The PROBLEM the change is that it's ugly as sin. But since OP is retarded, the thread devolves into childish shit flinging about how difficult a game we all beat when we were 12 is.
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>>749675914
I’ll grant you that the late 90’s saw a Nintendo desperately attempting to court “older” audiences after PlayStation started eating their lunch. That being said, Nintendo established that Zelda was a franchise for “everyone” around Wind Waker. You could also easily explain the darker elements by more lax corporate oversight around content, which was more common back then.
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>>749679780
Your retarded post is irrelevant. The very existence of navi pretty much invalidates all the complaints about casualization since she told you the solution to everything. It was just hinted in such a way that kids would have to think somewhat, it was never difficult for an adult to comprehend.
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>>749680065
monolith soft helped with BOTW and TOTK's open world and environment design, why wouldn't they be interested in more zelda. those niggas wanted to do a felt-craft earthbound game back in the day
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>>749675578
>it's not like my mature yellow paint games for mature gamers
how do people still say this dumb shit
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>>749679892
>Watch for the shadows of monsters that hang from the ceiling.
Unavoidable dialog, btw.
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>>749678414
Smarr indie company prease undastand anon
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>>749680181
>The very existence of navi pretty much invalidates all the complaints about casualization since she told you the solution to everything
No she doesn't. Her tip for jumping through the spiderweb is simply telling you to that there is something down there or in the Water Temple she's basically invisible. Even the off voice in SotC or the new Onimusha spoil harder, not to mention Issun.
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>>749680583
Like I said, the hints were just enough to make KIDS ponder on their meaning. If you as an adult ever had issues in OoT you are exactly who this casualization is made for because you are retarded.
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>>749675914
None of this isn't for children. You're just a coddled manchild who lost sight of what actual adult themes are.
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>>749679104
Nigga every human being in existence got grabbed by them at least a couple times, how you gon lie this much bullshit to defend making something easier?
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>>749680668
>Like I said
No not like you said you dumb retard, you said she always tells you waht to do and she doesn't. Saying what she says makes you ponder is completely different and even that isn't true. Nothing she says can help you memorize a dungeon's layout, she says nothing about using Nayru's Wind at the entrance or let alone how to get to the basement of the WT.
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>>749675914
What happened to millennials to make them think this way
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>>749675498
he posted real cp in the first thread, he's gonna post that shit until release now.
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>>749676480
people may make fun of this, but as a kid, we were encouraged to search around for stuff like this. The fact its above the door is casualization, and that speaks more about the kids of today than when I was one. We fought wars.
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>>749675914
Games for children can have adult themes, especially if it's a coming of age story like OoT and MM. Everything is so sanitized now though
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>>749680743
>>749681015
1. Stop samefagging all the time
2.
>None of this isn't for children
So you're saying nothing and "for children" doesn't even mean anything. "Haha baby game" is supposed to evoke something like Spyro, not zombie outbreak and hour long torture chamber dungeons
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>>749681071
Oh ffs, DID HE REALLY NOT GET IP BANNED FOR THAT?!
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>>749680878
First of all, that's a fat cope. Just because you are bad at games doesn't mean everybody is.

Secondly, there was no defense made for making it easier, and there was no defense made in favor of the change AT ALL. There was only the statement that the PROBLEM with the change is NOT that it made it easier, the problem is that they made it ugly.

Seriously, please, just THINK for a little before you post.
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>>749681158
>samefagging even more
Jesus Christ they really need to study your brain in a lab when you finally die after 60 years of rotting on 4chan
>hehe this is my new clever narrative, making 5 posts in a row replying to the same post saying the same thing
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>>749681214
>First of all, that's a fat cope. Just because you are bad at games doesn't mean everybody is.
Post a blind playthrough where someone never gets grabbed by them. Oh you can't

I literally just watched a streamer who beat every FromSoftware game get grabbed by them and rewind his dumb Switch Online every time
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So...are we just gonna...pretend like it isn't obviously him again? Or are we gonna get the jannies in here?
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>>749681349
fuck that rewind shit. ffs
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>>749681162
I'm sorry when you finish learning English we can pick this discussion back up.
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>>749681438
You mean when you replay a second time to my post pretending to be someone else
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>>749681162
>>749681254
You need to take your meds
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>>749678815
>Anon nobody cares about souls any more, everyone has souls fatigue.
Absolute PEABRAIN take, they're still the most popular games in existence today, and maybe you and five other reddditors have fatigue. Neck yourself, faggot.
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>>749681349
>I literally just watched a streamer
That explains a lot.

I never got grabbed by one until I let one grab me because I was curious what would happen. And I played it on my N64 when I was 10.

I'd just like to reiterate before you embarrass yourself again, I am VEHEMENTLY opposed to the change. But not because it makes it easier to avoid them.
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>>749681530
Careful or he'll start spamming cp again.
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>>749681162
>hour long torture chamber dungeons
weird my copy didn't have this and I've never seen it
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>>749681658
but it DOES make it easier. The ugliness literally DOES make it easier. BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GET DISTRACTED ENOUGH TO MISS IT.
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>>749681162
My dude you are gonna FREAK when you finally turn 9 and your parents let you read Brothers Grimm
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>>749680878
Literally the only way to get grabbed by one is to stop moving
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>>749681658
>That explains a lot.
You are on a pedophile website where one samefagging schizo shitposter makes up 70% the posts in a thread, don't act so smug. Not reading the rest of this horrendously formatted mental diarrhea since I'm not seeing a link to a video
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It must be a sad existence to just bitch about everything. In what fucking world would you get everything you want without it fucking with someone else and what they want? Different interpretations isnt censorship and art styles in games can change without it being “dumbing it down”.
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>>749681942
>i never stop moving in my video games
also i remember it happening to me when i was climbing
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>>749681758
>BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GET DISTRACTED ENOUGH TO MISS IT.
This wasn't a problem for everybody, which is why the wheels came off this thread so violently. The change in appearance affects EVERYBODY, but it doesn't make it less likely for some people to avoid being grabbed.
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>>749681942
A lot of things can make you stop moving. Looking around, shooting at a target, trying to see what's down that fucking hole, etc. The shadow was subtle enough that if you weren't being diligent and watching the shadow, you could get grabbed.

This ugly fucking disco ball spotlight renders wallmasters ENTIRELY irrelevant.
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>>749682015
The Wallmaster light is objectively a bad decision. The shadow alone was fine.
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>>749675486
The problem is that fucktards will throw a shitfit if they do something radically different, but they also have to accommodate for the casualfags.
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>>749682015
I'm not bitching about it I'm laughing at it.
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>>749682035
>ERM SO YOU RUN ALL THE TIME?
The fucking room where you encounter the Wallmaster for the first time is tiny and it only starts dropping in the 'center' of the room. So the first time you're there, it won't get you on the farthest block you jump to. It immediately goes away.
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>>749682052
Exactly. It affects EVERYONE. Be it because it just looks fucking awful, or because the god awful change makes it literally impossible to get grabbed unless you TRY to get grabbed.

So my point stands.
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>>749675368
They made the scary enemy less scary.
They made the scary enemy less scary.
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>>749675914
This. It's a miracle Nintendo got this thing through the ESRB without a higher age rating. WW is the baby one.
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>>749682174
Wrong. It starts dropping about 3 steps into the room. I learned THAT the hard way. I was looking around for an eye switch. Got grabbed.
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>>749682062
>The shadow was subtle enough that if you weren't being diligent and watching the shadow, you could get grabbed.
It wasn't just a shadow, there was the progressively louder droning sound as it fell. But Navi explicitly stops you with an unskippable tip at the entrance telling you about the shadows. I agree that the disco light looks retarded, but Wallmasters were not grabbing people like the ones from Zelda 1 or something.
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>>749682175
>So my point stands
As does mine, which was always that the discussion shouldn't be centered around how it affects the difficulty of the game, which has been a complete fucking disaster and made this thread a shithole, and should instead be centered around how ugly the change is.
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That's retarded
They already gave you a ridiculous amount of time to avoid them
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WxfYE3qfM3c&is=c3B0ySYwfQT4-f6A
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>>749682284
she only tells you once, it's not a very scary sounding description and makes you think of the deku tree spiders, you you encounter wallmasters throughout the game, you can always easily forget about them or get distracted
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All games are like this now. Devs just assume that the average modern gamer is just a complete fucking retard that they are way less intelligent than in the past.
This is what people think of zoomers all across the board and instead of seeing it as an insult they just cope by saying that things have always been this way.
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>>749682284
>>749682359
It's ugly as sin, AND it renders the enemy irrelevant to the point that they may as well have just fucking removed it. The droning getting louder was the reason why I STARTED playing the game with the sound on, believe it or not.
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>>749682072
It isn’t, and even though I would prefer a different art style that more closely resembles the original, I’m not gonna spend my time bitching about completely subjective tastes.
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>>749682497
>it's not a very scary sounding description
Because it's not a scary enemy.
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>>749682509
>the reason why I STARTED playing the game with the sound on
Why the fuck were you playing with the sound off?
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>>749675368
This looks more like something that would happen in Wind Waker when Link got caught in a Forsaken Fortress spotlight. It badly clashes with the dungeon's atmosphere and aesthetic, and it loses the iconic subtlety that still gets people to this day.
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>>749680065
Are you one of those fags who thinks this is made by Indians? Because there's no evidence of that either. Based on the Aonuma video the most likely scenario seems to be internal development by Nintendo.
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>>749682497
Yup. You get grabbed once and go "Oh. THAT'S what she meant." You never forget that moment lol.

>>749682502
They already admitted that they design games for DSP.
>>749682534
It LITERALLY is ugly as sin and a direct downgrade, fuck off.
>>749682594
I was a cowardly child and didn't like the scary noises... Unironically, getting grabbed there did me a WORLD of good in the long run lol.

I was also too scared to go into hyrule field as a child. The Stalkids terrified me lol. My dad would get me to castle town and I'd take the reigns from there.
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>>749682015
>having standards is bad
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>>749682541
i don't mean literally scary, but most people would disagree with you on a purely descriptive level. bragging about not being scared of video games wasn't cool even when kids did it in the schoolyard btw
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>>749682534
This isn't about the art style, retard. Imagine if Volvagia had a giant spotlight on the hole it was going to come out of.
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>>749682695
>Yup. You get grabbed once
nah you can still easily get grabbed later when not thinking about it. glad you agree that you get grabbed in the n64 game but noto in the remake though
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>>749682534
>It isn't?
Elaborate. Give me a legitimate reason why the disco light is an improvement over the original enemy that was meant to catch you off-guard.
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>people actually got scooped up by wallmasters
I understand alttp because they are bigger than they appear and like to show up when you're doing puzzles but in oot? Maybe on the first encounter but after that they become fodder
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>>749682775
It probably will in the remake. I might screencap this post.
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>>749682658
>Are you one of those fags who thinks this is made by Indians?
Like the Star Fox remake? And with those soulless shit graphics? Yes
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>>749682873
We've seen the fight, it doesn't.
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>>749682775
This

>>749682787
>noto in the remake though
Yeah about that...I realized that I could use Farore's Wind to set a warp in there and just let one grab me so I could go restock on some shit lol.
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>>749682861
They're scary. The first time got me. And then I got got again in the forest temple years later cause I messed up the timing.
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>>749682892
his texture looks like baby poop in the remake
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>>749682035
Wallmasters stop if you climb anything
Replay the game
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>>749675368
I wonder what happens when they do grab you. They probably pick you up, move you three meters, then drop you. And their AI makes sure not to actually drop you down too far to undo any progress.
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now theyre ballmasters hide youre hylian balls
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>>749675368
this can't be real
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>>749682954
>I wonder what happens when they do grab you
Most likely just resets the room judging by the tweaks to "difficulty"
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>>749682910
>I realized that I could use Farore's Wind to set a warp in there and just let one grab me so I could go restock on some shit lol.
Or you could just use your Ocarina to warp out
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>>749682892
I hate Hyrule Warriors for existing. It ruined Darunia and Majora's Mask's moon for all future appearances.
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>>749675368
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>>749683039
I bet. And I bet the game keeps track of how many times they've grabbed you and with every time, the wallmasters take longer to attach and have a smaller hitbox. Until after 6 times, they just don't appear anymore.
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>>749683095
I was in the FOREST TEMPLE. I didn't have the Prelude of Light yet.
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>>749682954
The first time it grabs you it drops you in a chair and explains how dangerous it is to ignore the spotlight, then it permanently makes the spotlight brighter.
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>>749682359
>the discussion shouldn't be centered around how it affects the difficulty of the game
Yes it should be. Making games easier is dumb and wrong unless you are a casual. And it goes hand in hand with fucking up the aesthetic.
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>>749675368
Was the giant fucking hand shadow not enough? Seriously, the original was just a circle
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>>749683159
also, I am notoriously BAD at the minuet of forest. Wallmaster was just easier.
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>>749683159
You had the minuet of forest.
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>>749683202
The original has the shadow AND the sound cue. How the fuck that isnt enough is beyond me. Are they playtesting with literal retards?
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>>749683216
already addressed this.
>>749683215
^^
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>>749683258
Our posts were 2 seconds apart.
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>>749683296
Not on my end.
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>>749676480
>>749676904
>>749677519
>>749679148
>>749679728
The funny thing is that the specific "puzzle" is completely avoidable since you don't even need the Bow to clear the Fire Temple. You can even full clear the Fire Temple before even attempting to visit Kokiri Forest.
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>>749683121
you are obsessed with weird things
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>>749683232
it's a game for children
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>>749683454
I was a child once and I didnt have a problem with Forest Temple. Hell, I played much harder games on the NES and Atari.
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>>749676151
>>749683454
>>749678089
>>749677317
Holy goddamn samefag, fuck outta here.
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>>749682824
Maybe they wanted it to feel like you are being stalked and targeted instead of the jumpscare
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>>749683162
Not this particular change. It makes the game LOOK different, for sure. And I hate it because it's ugly. But it doesn't make it irrefutably easier, because as you can clearly gather from this thread, a lot of people never found it difficult to dodge them in the first place. So to those people, the change is pointless and unnecessary.

I think everyone in this thread agrees the change is BAD, but since OP is a fag and tried to turn it into a dick swinging contest, we ended up here.
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>>749676480
>can have one item hotkeyed
>you have to scroll between all of your inventory click by click or bring up your inventory menu if you want to pull out another item
jfc
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>>749683628
>But it doesn't make it irrefutably easier
WRONG, AS I HAVE PROVED REPEATEDLY. MAKING LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MISS, MAKES. IT. EASIER. THIS ISN'T FUCKING DEBATABLE.
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>>749683613
>Maybe they wanted it to feel like you are being stalked and targeted
And what was wrong with the shadow constantly being above you accompanied by the sound of it falling toward you?
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>>749683343
how without glitches? sounds cool
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>>749683778
absolutely nothing. He's just coping.
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>>749683541
lmao whatever helps you cope
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>>749683628
>But it doesn't make it irrefutably easier,
There is now no way to miss the shadow now, even by accident. This and the ability to block Iron Knuckle attacks are baffling decisions.
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>>749683721
>MAKING LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MISS
It was impossible for me to miss before. I think if you missed it before, I wouldn't be surprised if you missed the disco ball too.

Do you see my point now?
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>>749683939
OH FUCK OFF DID THEY REALLY CHANGE THE IRON KNUCKLES TOO?
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>>749683942
Shut the fuck up and quit samefagging, bitch.I already proved you wrong, shove it up your ass and take the goddamn L.
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>>749683628
>we ended up here.
Ended up with you samefagging for 100 posts because you have an aneurysm every time someone implies OoT has anything challenging about it. You're not entitled to people changing how they think or talk about games just to keep you from freaking out due to your mental illness. OoT was well-balanced, the remake is making the game--that everyone knows inside out--easier, and it sucks

Maybe you are a shill though and just want us to talk about how the remake is ugly because it's very easy to post some ugly N64 screenshots to make the 2026 demake look better
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>>749683820
>without glitches
That area is the only instance where you are required to use the bow to open a door with bars and get the map. Instead you can go simply to the other door in the same area and get the map through jumping from the low bars that are there. I assume they will keep that intact, and even so, maps and compassea aren't fully needed to get everything, you just need the hammer.
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>>749683454
So was the original, and the kids had no problems there. Games should even exist to help children become smarter.
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>>749684005
Yes, the direct showed Link blocking the Iron Knuckle's attack.
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>>749677491
Everything since Skyward Sword has been clowny. It's not going away. This is how they keep their age rating.
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>>749684151
that's fucking disgusting.
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>>749684120
so the game has even a bit more nonlinearity than i thought. that's neat, thanks. it's sad how nintendo made all the other classic 3d zeldas 100% linear
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>>749678469
Pathfinding doesn't match the design style of OoT my zoomie friends.
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>>749684005
Go rewatch the direct trailer. You can shield their swings and only get stumble knockback. The adjustments to enemies feel wildly inconsistent.
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>>749683426
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>>749683778
There doesnt have to be anything wrong with it. I gave you a reasoning like you wanted. I dont care that much anyways
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>>749683514
I mean me too, but that was 25 years ago. Expectations have changed.
At the end of the day, it's a game designed for children not men in their mid-30s. That's why it is the way it is. That's why getting upset makes you look stupid.
To be clear I'm not defending the game's existence nor will I be buying it. But these threads are full of actual idiots.
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>>749682952
Not necessarily true, you can be unlucky with the timing. They also tend to quickly restart their attack if they stop.
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>>749684182
Blame Twilight Princess, because it added the idea that Link autoblocks with his shield by Z-targeting by default. They added a pointless Manual Jump mechanic but kept Link auto blocking, and yeah now he just gets staggered for emphasis by the Iron Knuckles. The only time that might turn bad for the player are the rooms with more than 1 Iron Knuckle at a time. But otherwise it's literlaly just a "for-effect" mechanic to tell the player to strike and avoid being strikes, but there's no actual risk of dying and I bet they also damage you less than 4 hearts.
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>>749684005
No they didn't. You can see Link got hurt from blocking iron knuckle's attack in trailers.
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>>749684353
webms you can hear
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>>749684069
>I already proved you wrong
You've made it clear you don't even understand what I'm saying. All you've proven is MY point.
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>>749684202
You can even do Spirit temple before shadow btw. You just need the hover boots or the longshot.
>>749684267
.....this...fills me with a rage that I am not used to. I...think I need to go lay down...
>>749684363
HE FUCKING WHAT. HE AUTO-OH MY FUCKING GOD.
WHY!?
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>>749684202
Fire Temple is legitimate the only instance where you don't need anything from adult other than the hookshot. You can easily turn into Adult, get the hookshot, ignore Navi and go up to Death Mountain into Goron City into the Fire Temple. You won't be able to turn as a child if you clear the Fire Temple first, but it is 100% possible to do so. You dont't need to go to get the bow neither touch the Forest Temple or Kokiri Forest for it. I think you can also do the Ice Cavern as well but not the Water Temple, as you need forcefully the Bow for the middle section there.
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>>749684346
>Expectations have changed.
The expectation is that people are smarter now, not dumber.
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>>749684316
>I dont care that much anyways
Yeah, I could tell when you hopped into the thread to cry about people complaining.
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>>749684429
stfu cp spammer. we ALL know it's you.
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>>749684363
TP honestly fucked up a lot, I think it even complicated the context sensitivty even though OoT did that so brilliantly (e.g. pushing/climbing block now has dedicated buttons).
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>>749684436
>>>749684316
yeah I'm gonna...just...lay down.
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This remake looks like an intentional op by Nintendo to cannibalize classic Zelda and never touch it again but the online marketers are freaking out in these threads so I'm not sure. Maybe Nintendo really is just that incompetent today.
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>>749684869
Lets be honest, nintendo fans will eat anything up. No matter what it is. Nintendo didnt even have to make this and they did it anyway.

But Nintendo is dead as far as Im concerned. They havent been the same after the gamecube.
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>Stalfos are faster
>but you can now combo them
>Wolfos leap around more
>but whiffing an attack reveals a giant blue glowing weak point
>Deku Babas and Scrubs are even more of a joke thanks to auto-block
>you can just auto-block Iron Knuckles, the danger of losing a bunch of hearts is now gone
>Stalchildren have a longer swipe windup
>Skulltulas attack from farther away and you can spin them around faster
>Skullwalltulas have random movement
>Volvagia can now make fire walls
>Lizalfos have a spin attack
are they just throwing darts at a board to see who gets what
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>>749675368
those things used to scare the crap out of me when I was a kid. I feel bad for kids today who won't get to crap their pants
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>>749684925
Wii had a couple bangers still but true.
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>>749685025
It's moreso they are being made into gacha/ gambling fanatics who cant ever feel despair or loss or else they might give their parents' money to someone else.
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Kaepora Gaebora no longer flips his head upside-down
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>>749684452
I came to this website when I woke up and didnt expect it to be full of crybabies who nitpick everything. I wanted to see if more of my wives showed up in the new gameplay
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>>749685182
>I came to this website when I woke up and didnt expect it to be full of crybabies who nitpick everything
Oh, so you're a newfag tourist.
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>>749684986
it's so dumb, they need to make the fights WAY harder. oot combat was hard as fuck when it came out because there was nothing like it and it ran at 20 fps. just releasing the same game but with new graphics isn't a fair representation of what it was like in '98.
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>>749685226
its the definition of soulless, I agree
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>>749685182
>objectively bad decision
>STOP NITPICKING
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>>749685226
>oot combat was hard as fuck when it came out because there was nothing like it and it ran at 20 fps
Also trying to master that darn camera.
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>>749685226
>oot combat was hard as fuck when it came out because there was nothing like it
It was just because you were a kid.
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This looks stupid.
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>>749684363
The series had autoblock up until Link's Awakening, it just only worked on projectiles.
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>>749685361
was this game made in unreal by indians?
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>>749677283
kill yourself
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>>749684101
I've been against the change in every post I've made. I came late to the thread and was disappointed to find it filled with shitposters shitposting about how difficult the game is. JUST LIKE YOU. My initial post was about how, had OP started the thread discussing the ARTISTIC CHANGE, instead of the BALANCE CHANGE, there would be far less ammunition for shitposters. I don't know why this upset you so much.
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>>749685226
>oot combat was hard as fuck when it came out
Look, the changes are weird, but don't spout dumb shit like this. OoT was never difficult.
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>>749685361
it's really looks bad. They probably have some stupid excuse like "It's puppet theater lighting!"
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>>749685345
i had no problems with most games back then. crash is supposed to be hard but it never felt like it for me
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>>749675914
Love when I get to post this
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>>749685294
>unironically saying your subjective opinion is objective
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>>749685392
No.
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>>749685421
>the ARTISTIC CHANGE, instead of the BALANCE CHANGE
nigger, it's both
it looks hideous and makes the enemy even easier to avoid
>but I le wasn't le caught in le 90s
even easier, you illiterate monkey
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>>749685445
>gay anime pfp
glass houses
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>>749685182
>don't ask questions just CONSOOM
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>Japanese players are also questioning why the spotlight was added
Uh oh
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>>749685430
except it was playing it for the first time back then
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>>749685182
Gerudos are now taller than Link. OOT was the only Zelda where Link isn't a total manlet compared to every other character, but can't even have that.
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>>749685524
Im not saying you cant dislike it. Im saying its not objectively bad and not everything you like is the correct thing to do. I dont like a bunch of things in the remake. I said as much already. Strawmanning faggot
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>>749675914
All of that shit can be found in Goosebumps and Indiana Jones.

This was rated PG https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UYnJeUFv0XE
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I think the funniest thing about all this is that the people who shat on the yellow paint in other games are the ones vehemently defending making the remake more babified.
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>>749685720
I like that change. I like tall, tan and muscular women with big noses
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>>749685409
NTA but only having 1 itemslot is almost completely divorced from difficulty since pausing is instantaneous. It does nothing but add annoyance.
You're the retarded one who should end yourself.
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>>749685772
and no one whines in threads about those and insinsts they are for babies
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>>749685672
>faggot anime girl post
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>>749685795
>I'm a degenerate cuck
Cool
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>>749685720
>OOT was the only Zelda where Link isn't a total manlet compared to every other character
>smaller than Darunia, Ruto, Nabooru, King Zora, Impa
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>>749677491
Unironically looks worse and more terrifying at once (like a drag-queen clown hand)
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>>749685921
>butthurt shill defending yellow paint
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>>749685927
Its not degeneracy if its for marriage and impregnation
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>>749685065
Yeah lol
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>>749685940
So are you illiterate? I said every and you are cherrypicking a handful of characters that are taller.

He was taller than Zelda, Malon, all the Gerudos including Naboru (dumb liar), a bunch of random NPCs and also looking wider and beefier than most normal humans.
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>>749678507
I got a ban for a harmless thread about "Calvinist video games". No fun allowed on veddit
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>>749686141
>compared to every other
>every other
>every
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>>749679016
Whatever gets you through the night
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>>749686295
Yes TotK Link is a manlet compared to almost every other adult character including Zelda.
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>>749685493
But tell me honestly, has this shitposting in this thread been almost entirely about the balance change or not?

>could have had a thread about how bad the changes are in the remake
>instead we have 500 posts of people swinging their dicks about how easy a 30 year old game is
>GEE IM SURE GLAD OP MENTIONED THE DIFFICULTY
And you call me illiterate.
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I hate how they couldn't even be bothered to animate Ganondorf's horse's mane moving properly in slow-mo. How are hair animations this lazy allowed 12 years after The Witcher 3?
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>>749679643
The trannymasters aren't really kid-friendly either but things have to look dumb for clownworld
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>>749686434
>how bad the changes are in the remake
You sound like a nitpicking faggot.
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>>749676792
I hate these giant fucking eyeballs so god damn much
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>>749679727
Yes and his name is eric and he's just one guy who looks like a walrus
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>>749682106
>but they also have to accommodate for the casualfags.
No they don't.
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you guys are so weird about zelda games
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>>749686490
SAAR
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>>749686434
OP literally just said the enemy has disco lights which doesn't even necessarily say anything about difficulty and it still triggered you so much you had to make this sperg post >>749675578

Stop acting dumb and find a therapist already you freak

>>749686684
Only that one mentally ill freak who is shitposting it for over 10 years here and unironically cries in real life when someone implies Zelda has tricky parts
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>>749676480
>>749675368
fuck i was starting to dig the style
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>>749680214
Speak for yourself, I'm playing Order of the Sinking Star not ball and gun slop
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>>749686684
We like the lil' nigga elf.
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>>749682220
No, Wind Waker is also mature. It's a somber meditation on the cruel nature of time. Baby Zelda begins with Skyward Sword.
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>>749686684
The best things usually have the best most autistic[, thread-ruining/spoiler] haters.
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>>749684925
This. Every Nintendo game since the pandemic has been a new low. Fortunes Weave is seriously our most hated game of all times.
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>>749684925
>>749684869
>>749685049
These. I remember when they released the banger that was Xenoblade Chronicles and proceeded to sully it with anime trash and casualisation.
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>>749682106
They had the chance to make this game difficult while saying "we're the original soulsborne game". One chance, they had.
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>>749678815
"(entertainment) fatigue" isn't a real thing
>B-But I saw people on Xshitter talking about it
And there'll be at least two kids or new adults for every one of those Xshitters who don't care and will enjoy open world games, soulslikes, capeshit, and other stuff anyway
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>>749682180
>less scary

See >>749677491
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This remake is a waste of time and resources, should just have made oot3d HD
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Loving the Nintendo hate in this thread. Legit giving oldschool 2005-2006 4chan.

>>749679842
>Monolith Soft.
XC3 was literally our most hated game kf the decade before Feces Woke came along, this is supposed to fill us with confidence?
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>>749687026
I agree insofar as Wind Waker is fully enjoyable and maybe even better as an adult, but it's definitely where the babby difficulty trend started. Skyward Sword may be more childish thematically, but it actually has some of the tougher action gameplay in 3D Zelda and trying to beat it without dying once is super fun.
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For those saying this game is made for kids, thats why its easier...what the fuck do you think I was in elementary school when OoT came out?
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>>749685436
You fool, now they're gonna run with that exact narrative.
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>>749687192
>Legit giving oldschool 2005-2006 4chan.
Shut up, nigger. Only a faggot would say something like this unironically.
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>>749684925
This. So much this. Every one of our most hated games these past couple years have been from Nu-Craptendo
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3 our most hated game of 2022
>ToTK our most hated game of 2023
>Mario Brotherhood our most hated game of 2024
>MK World, DK Bananananananaabanananananananananaaz, and Metroid Prime 4 our most hated games of 2025
And finally
>Shaniqua's Emblem, Saar Fox, and OOT remake our most hated games of 2026
Now's the time to sell all your $hitendo products, and preorder GTA6
Only viral marketers like anything from Nintendo after Wii.
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>>749675368
The game was already braindead easy, are they trying to make each generation stupider than the last so they don't revolt? Is this the best they can do for gen alpha?
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So has anyone seen any humans in Hyrule Field so far? Or bigger animals than birds?
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>>749687281
Yeah I'll agree WW is piss-easy. So is OoT desu. The only Zelda games that are actually hard are Zelda 2 and arguably Majora's Mask.
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>>749686850
Now you are literally just denying reality the part of OP's post that cause so much shitposting is
>so that even a baby can avoid them lol
You then continue to prove this with an example. My initial post >>749679104
is suggesting the OP had NOT said that, so that the thread wouldn't be filled with posts like the one you chose as an example. Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>749687192
>2005-2006 4chan
You mean when everyone was sucking off Mario 64 DS and Twilight Princess?
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>>749684925
The new Kirby is gonna be soooo bad bro. I wonder if Suckurai made it look like this so his precious Saar Emblem Feces Woke could look good on comparison.
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>>749687405
>game notorious for filters and being designed to sell guidebooks is braindead easy
Whatever makes you sleep better. Now go hammer the parry button in Wolverine which you don't even have to time.
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>>749685387
It also depended on your shield in Zelda 1. It was basically a Mario power-up that could only be removed specifically by Like-Likes.
In TP it's literally just "hold the lock on button and block almost everything attacking from the front".
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>>749685672
This game bothered to even have a master mode? And it doesnt even make the game harder?
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>>749687497
okay, you're trying too hard now
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>>749684925
>>749687497
Nintendo wants us to spend our 80$ on their crappy nu-games, instead of actual quality products like GTA6 that actually justify the pricetag!
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>>749687465
MM is easier than OoT, they had to add the optional pink fairies so it at least has some illusion of difficulty.
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>>749687472
Mhh I see, it's the implication that a literal baby can't play through the original OoT that really triggered you and makes you blame the OP rather than the samefagging shitpostoer (you)

And that's not your initial post you dumb faggot lol
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>>749687497
>more open world slop

sigh
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>>749681015
They started receiving slightly edgier media at a time when "slightly edgier" still made parents go "Huh? That's not very biblemericanwholesome! But I suppose if you want to play/watch it, Timmy..."
It unironically made them feel cool to play Majora's Mask and turn into edgy white Link to instakill the final boss, and they never grew past that.
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>>749675368
just play the original demodded game with upgrades.
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>>749687632
And viral marketers will defend it to the last. Xenoblade is already infamous on here for how obvious the viral marketing is from Youtubers like Enel. Especially since Genesis is looking to be our most hated title of 2027.
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>>749687712
OoT honestly has some of the best fan mods , same as Mario. Actual testament to those games' quality.
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>>749687632
Oh look, but theres a new shitty nonbinary character for fucktarded drones to fap to! *jangle jangle jangle*
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>>749684346
>it's a game designed for children not men in their mid-30s
They said in the Direct that "evoking nostalgia" was one of their top priorities
They're fully aware most of the sales will be from Millennials
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>>749687880
ironically, the fact the game looks so easy is even sadder.
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>>749676792
>every boss is reduced to a bland pattern that makes you use specific weapons and tactics
I used bombs, the bow, the sword, bomb mask and the deku with deku nuts to beat Odolwa the other night on my replay of MM. They don't want you to be creative or to think about how to approach things, they want you to be a golem that follows a strict pattern.
>>749678872
>>749679035
It shows how grim modern vidya is.
>>749678905
This is for sure outsourced to Asspreet and Poojinkies. Every game is.
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>>749687585
>pink fairies
and the reward for getting them is extra defense/babby mode. in ocarina you will likely never get that upgrade before the credits roll unless you already know about it
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>>749687847
Meanwhile, have you seen anyone make mods of the shitty Shitch and Shitch Poo titles? Don't think so.

>>749684925
>>749684869
Honestly, this thread is such an oasis of high standard in this desert of slop eaters. Thank you anons for telling the truth about our new most hated company in gaming, Nintendo!
>tips hat to my fellow anonymous cohorts
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>>749687543
With Sony having firmly established themselves as the actual Bad Console Manufacturer Company to the point people have blown the PS5 wide open for hacks and irrevocably tarnishing Sony's reputation with truths and discoveries that can never be hidden again, it's no wonder: He desperately wants to go back to a time where it was easier to pretend Nintendo was THE enemy number one.
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>>749687497
>>749687781
>>749687859
>>749687980
>am I fitting in yet?
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>>749687859
sex
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>>749675578
It's for millennials.
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>>749676375
>trying to shit on Zeltik
Way to go confirming to us all you’re a retard
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>>749687624
>And that's not your initial post you dumb faggot lol
Lol, I accept your concession.
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>>749688132
Zeltik is horrendously biased towards OoT. His opinion is just as worthless as someone blindly shitting on the game.
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>>749688182
I accept that you at least hate yourself so much you have to nonstop lie about what you really are like
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>>749688080
Oh fuck off you shitty viral marketer.
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>>749675368
How the hell did they manage to make fucking OCARINA OF TIME woke normie slop!? At least wolverine doesn’t actively tarnish an already existing game.
This baby woke game actually makes me not ever want to play the original now.
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Stalfos now deal a whopping half heart of damage.
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>>749688520
This. Every Shittendo game now is seriously woke slop. At least Sony has GTA6, an actually well made game! Ugh...
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>>749688520
>At least wolverine
Subtle.
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>>749688520
OoT remake: A remake so bad it even ruin the origanal!!!!
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>>749688241
Hey buddy, whatever you gotta say to make yourself feel better about being wrong. Maybe think before you post next time, like I suggested.
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>>749688520
You know a game is bad when its making us hardened badasses at fuckin' 4CHAN defend WOLVERINE 2026!
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>>749683121
I am noticing.
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>>749685049
They made a really good action RPG and proceeded to immediately ruin it with garbo tranime stuff...
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>>749688651
Therapist now
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>>749678414
>>749684226
There's exactly one enemy type in the game that does have proper path finding, and that's the specific Lizalfos you fight in Dodongo's.
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>>749688539
Ok, this is the last straw, preorder cancelled.
The game probably doesn't even have MQ or a hard mode.
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why do they all bother dodging in the new gameplay instead of just blocking? did nintendo make them so kids think it has fancy dodge mechanics like botw?
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>>749688761
Like look at this shit... uuuuggghhhh...
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>>749688520
Reading this makes me remember how much I hate /v/ sometimes
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>>749688539
how much did they before?
like two or something?
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>>749688891
The direct feed gameplay is Nintendo themselves playing it.
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OOT remake isn't nearly the end of the crappiness that is the Switch 2 library. They even made Samus went (I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROARRR). Heck the logo even looks so AI generated.

>>749684925
>>749684869
I'm also seeing some seroous panicking on the Xenoblade side of things. The youtuber Enel (massive Xenoblade/FE shill) has been getting extra desperate seeing us all shit on Genesis for how woke and censored it is.
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You know a game is good when antis seethe this hard: >>749688676
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>>749688891
>it has fancy dodge mechanics like botw?
The funny thing is that the game actually does, but it's just that no attacks hit in such a way that you have to dodge them a specific way, even though that's easy to add. It's like, they are changing things, but in the exact opposite way they should be.
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>>749689090
One heart for slashes. 2 for jump attacks.
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>>749689138
>us us us our our our
Tone it down, Eric.
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>>749688520
Yeah guys We should all buy Wolverine instead of Zelda on release in protest!
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>>749689306
So they now do half the damage even though they should be doing 3 times the damage because....... Nintendo just ain't it anymore.
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>>749689306
i really only remember the iron knuckles, because of how terrifyingly hard they can hit you.
but now you can just block it, apparently, kek
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>>749689401
Nintendos new games are seriously so bad now but I think many other anons like >>749689138 >>749687781 >>749687497 demenstrate the point better.
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If you're wondering why shitposting is ramping up it's because of pic related.

Sony paying those Indians to do damage control.
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>>749686075
To be fair, you're never going to marry or impregnate anyone
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>>749689401
Atp Imma just sell my $Shitch and buy a PS5 for GTA6, look like a so much better investment than this neo-tendo kiddie crap.

>>749689570
Bruh all the new nintendo games are outsorce to Pranpoop and Vindaroloopi, you aint foolin notta
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>>749685182
can somebody hack the switch 2 already because i need the porn
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>>749687518
GPT bot buzzword salad, try harder
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>>749689306
Nintendo has fine with enemies dealing high damage in nu-Zelda, why the sudden backpedal? Not like OOT is that hard to begin with.
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Sony lost

BIG TIME
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>>749689570
Bold of you to imply anybody likes modern Sony either. Sony's making shit I'm not gonna buy and so is Nintendo, Nintendo releasing their turds physically doesn't make them any better.
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>>749675368
>>749689401
We all agree that this game, SF26, and Feces Woke are the worst games of the year. What went so wrong?
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>>749689669
>Not like OOT is that hard to begin with.
too hard for today's standards. go witht he times boomer
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>>749689676
>sony lost
>nintendo lost
>claude is reverse engineering their games so I can just play them natively
chvds vvon
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More honest previews already criticize the empty field which apparently doesn't have anything new.

Yeah this won't even get 90% and hurt OoT's legacy.
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>>749689839
But you won't play them, you'll just stare at the title screen for 5 minutes and come back to /v/ to whine about something.
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>>749689570
This and revelations about the PS5 like how PS2 and PS3 CDs could have been playable on it all along if Sony actually gave a shit.
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>>749689570
Ah I did wonder why. Normally don’t see this level of damage control until a new State of Play
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>>749690107
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>>749690051
Dont get your hopes up. I expect at least a 95 metacritic, if only because muh nostalgia.
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>>749677560
>>749677668
>WHY DID THEY EVEN ADD A FUCKING JUMP?
Literally as a debug button.
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>>749690051
Man this is so weird.

"OoT but [optionally] harder and with more stuff to do" would absolutely destroy the rest of the industry. They had the opportunity to remake it AGAIN and still don't bother making such basic improvements.
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>>749675368
claude, make a remake of zelda oot but good. make no mistake also.
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Why isn't the item menu a wheel? Are they dumb?
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>>749677491
the only scary thing about these fags is that if you linger too long in one of those timed event rooms, they will grab you out of nowhere even if you completed the event and the timer goes hidden.
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>>749690051
Exactly. We need more straight corridors like wolverine.
Also, NO yellow paint? How the hell are we supposed to know where to go!?
No trophies or achievements mean we don’t receive ANYTHING for doing things. What’s the point!?
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>every previewer complaining that they couldn't immediately find the small key for the twisty corridor
Nostalgic.
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Why do the werewolves appear like heartless
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>Only one item slot
>Stalfos deal half damage
>Shield always stays up
>You can shield Iron Knuckle attacks
>Babified puzzles and made more obvious the eye switches
>You get a free new bottle as soon as you reach the market
>Can summon a shop anywhere
>Enemies don't respawn
>The moving blocks Poe puzzle is not timed anymore
>Wallmasters have a disco ball spotlight when dropping
>Enemies have glowing weak spots now
>No boss rush mode, only individual rematches
>No Master Quest or hard mode

Am I forgetting something?
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>>749690837
>You get a free new bottle as soon as you reach the market
Are you fucking kidding me? You don't even have a new quest or anything, you just get it, even though the game hands you one when you find Ruto's letter which is possibly hinted at actually being written by Ganondorf?
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>>749690789
they added a new elevator to that very room so it's not like there is any punishing backtracking
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>>749691070
Did Nintendo forget that Farore's wind is a thing?
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>>749691140
Man it would have been so cool to actually have problems that made use of that that aren't speedrunning tricks to skip things.
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>>749691194
That room is one. Or was.
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>>749675368
on top of that you can just free yourself
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>>749691457
I thought the spell actually reset switches so that wouldn't work though?
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>>749691573
wow
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>>749691573
are you fucking serious?
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>>749691573
Ok, that's just the last fucking straw. This is an immensely stupid fake game scared of doing anything.
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even the dude who spams eric 24/7 can't keep his narrative up anymore, basedconsumers lost.
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>>749691573
Oh no nononon ono
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>>749691573
What the fuck happened to Nintendo? They used to be a serious company, even if people here like to deny it.
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Lmao holy shit tendies getting rightfully railed in this thread, what a shame too, they’ll gobble up and defend this shit which ultimately make future games worse in the process all for the sake of one thing: C O P E
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>>749691573
So it's an actual babby's first Zelda basedlennials can force on their wife's 3 year old.
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Man, it's just so amazingly easy to actually make a hacked version of OoT that doesn't play itself for babies, but Nintendo couldn't even not double down on everything that was actually lame about it.
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>>749691573
They even managed to make the wall master itself less scary looking somehow, this remake is looking to be on par with the Demons Souls demake
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>>749691573
how fucking gay
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>>749691573
Oh neat! It's nice to be able to try and mitigate getting screwed over by those guys.
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>>749675368
>>749691573
i would get one of these two changes (well the lights not so much) but why both?
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>>749691573
is this the phenomenon where people deflect the criticism of hard games turned easy, by calling them "kids games" or is this the result of retards like darksydephil or that one cuphead journalist influencing the industry to gentrify with modern standards
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>>749691573
>tfw last thread some tendie accused me of lying about the remake being easier
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>>749681962
>you are on a pedophile website

So are you, not reading the rest of your cope pedo lmao
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>unwashed spergs complaining about nothing
When did /v/ become xitter?
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>>749683541
Haha keep crying bitch nigga
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>>749692047
>>749691827
>>749691674
Geeeeeeeegggg Shittendick boutta go bankrupt at this rate. They are so hated on here now
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>>749684316
What a pathetic way to take a loss lmao be sure to pre order too retard
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>>749691827
>>749691674
Bro pretty much the entire internet is turned against nintendo atp, and tendies wanna say sony is the bad guys? Bitch at least Sony has GTA6, shittendo has some of our most hated games of all times.
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>>749692124
>shit people are agreeing on something being bad
>quick make it about me
Stfu shill
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>>749685436
>>749687370
Yeah, I've seen faggots on twitter say exactly that.
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>>749691573
I hate how previewers just don't criticize any of this. Journos and these industry pets with their Jewtube are the biggest cancer of this industry.
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>>749692267
>>749691827
>>749691674
I'm literally hearing rumors that Nintendo is considering filing for a Chapter 11 bankruptcy due to the Bitch Poo's poor software sales. The tendies are P A N I C K I N G, geg!
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>>749692264
nigger don't use me for your consolecuck wars, i genuinely hate both, and i fucking despite gta especially gta 5 let alone 6 i only like gta's below 4
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>>749692198
>>749692264
Trying way too hard, and undermining your entire grift as usual.
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>>749685471
>unironically coping this hard
>”pfff whatever bro I just totally don’t like care”

Yet you’re still here, totally not seething
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>>749691674
>>749691827
Reminder that good ol' 'rine outsold Shaniqua's Weave. Yep, tendies just cant stop getting rekt, kek!
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>>749691827
>>749691674
This combine with the fact that Kirby and Xenoblade are already locked in as our most hated titles of 2027. This gen might actually be the end... for Nintendo....
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>>749675368
the wolfos also have a bright blue weak point on their back that turns red when you hit it
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>>749692383
This. Consoles just dont offer anything anymore. May as well just work on my backlog.
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>>749687370
>You fool, now they're gonna run with that exact narrative.
It's what Nintendo made previewers in their videos say
>yes you may wonder why this wolfo fight is just as easy and simple as 30 yers ago if not even easier, but look it almost seems like there's a spotlight on the enemy I'm targeting, isn't that incredible?
First the puppet cope for the ugly graphics now this.
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>>749688132
A dedicated Zelda shill? He likes it? Gee no fucking wonder! Be sure to base your personality around your favorite YouTuber too you literal golem
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>>749692383
Despise* goddamnit but yeah most of the changes for this oot remake generally makes me want to jump off a cliff, cause there was generally no reason to make it easier for lil babies who want "qol" changes almost reminds me of the fag who defend mojang changing textures for no reason instead of finishing shit like the fletcher table, instead of adding a no man's sky rip off dimension
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>>749688886
But at least it has tranny lighting though thank goodness
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>>749691573
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>>749687936
>They don't want you to be creative or to think about how to approach things, they want you to be a golem that follows a strict pattern.
Last time we got exactly that, you people bitched endlessly about how the puzzles in previous entries felt more purposeful
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>>749689570
Sony fucking sucks too retard lol weakest deflect so far btw, step your game up sissies
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>>749690586
>>749691827
>>749691674
This and Fire Emblem are our most hated games of 2026, no shot.
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>>749692626
The tendies are still panicking over how hard we destroyed there precious Shaniqua's Emblem, geg.
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>>749675914
I mean it's for kids, it's just for 11 year olds instead of 6 year olds. Shonen media in Japan is like that, where it's for middle schoolers instead of actual babbies
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>>749692198
>>749692264
>>749692363
>>749692417
Absolute fucking meltdown L M A O
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This thread needs more Nintendo hate.

Like why does XCG look worse than XC1 on Wii???
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>>749692610
You talking about the wild games, aka "YOU CAN LE SKIP EVERYTHING" bullshit? Sorry if massive extremes dont make for a fun game.
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>>749692480
Am I the only one who hates what the new target cursor looks like? First of all there is no need for it anymore, we have HD TVs and Navi is big enough. Second, why this ugly color now? A least the original has cool little Triforces in a flat color that fits the retro style.
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>>749692793
>Like why does XCG look worse than XC1 on Wii???
Been hearing a lotta anons say that. Deffo true though, kek.
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>>749675486
>the shield being automatically up
im actually gonna say they might as well do this cuz there never was any reason to leave your shield down anyways
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>>749692670
>>749692732

Oh snap the bot seems to have short circuited, somebody call jeettendo
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>>749691573
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>>749691573
Why do some people think video games for young kids should be punishing and cruel?
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>>749692917
nah it feels more like something you actually have to do, just like targeting itself which i'm glad is still manual by default and not like in souls.
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>>749692523
Damn, you sound hurt! Dry those tears, champ.
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>MK World is a hate letter to Mario fans
>DK Bananaz is a hate letter to DK fans
>Kirby Air Raiders and Worlds Beyond are hate letters to Kirby fans
>Splatoon Raid is a hate letter to Splatoon fans
>Fire Emblem Feces Woke is a hate letter to FE fans
>Metroid Ravenos and Prime 4 is a hate letter to Metroid fans
>Xenoblade Genesis is a hate letter to Xenoblade fans
Daaaayum Shitch Poo is literally Hate Letters: the Console kekw
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>>749692943
Was OoT always a kid's game for babies or was it too cruel and needed to be toned down? Pick a lane.
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>>749692935
Based frogposter summating our thoughts on modern nintendo

>>749692934
Ever notice how all the ppl complementing the shitch poo games are all literally indian?
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>>749691573
>Just don't buy it because it looks bad
>Now Nintendo thinks we want Ubisoft open world Zeldas with blue test rooms
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Reminder that Nintendo literally pays ppl to shill their shitty games on here

Explains why there are so many Shaniqua's Emblem shill threads lolz
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>>749692917
>there never was any reason to leave your shield down anyways
Unless you are crouch-stabbing you can't attack while your shield is up.

Granted, it takes a millisecond to put it down and back up, but still, at least you have some semblance of player input.
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>>749691573
So it is a demake for normie graphics fags.

Case closed.

Everyone can move on.
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>>749692793
I loved Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii so much, why is every game after it so f*cken bad?
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>>749687376
I know you're shilling but Brotherhood and Bananza are the only great games there
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>>749691573
I want everyone who ever said that Bananza being as utterly fucking lobotomized as it was was a one-off to go find the nearest dick and choke on it. This shit is pathetic.
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>>749688945
Shhh, don't criticize this game or you'll trigger Enel's discord.
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>>749693173
it's also nice to be able to shield drop bombs without targeting. but this reminds me we can no longer combo items effectively like throwing nuts at bombchus
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>>749688945
Looks so atrocious omg

To think they went from such masterpieces as Xenogears and Xenosaga to this... it baffles the mind...
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>>749675368
>>749676480
>>749685361
>>749685720
>>749688539
>>749692480
>>749691573
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>>749692830
>A least the original has cool little Triforces in a flat color that fits the retro style.
should've been 3 triangles instead of 4
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>>749675914
Yeah, that's a children's franchise in Japan. Shounen manga have had people dying violently for decades.
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>>749693267
Bananza is tied with Prime 4 and MK World as our most hated game of 2025. Seriously so bad.
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>>749693569
Japanese children's games seem to be pretty based then.
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>>749693267
See >>749693015
Bananaz and OOT remake are cut from the same paper that makes the hate letters to there respective series fans.
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>>749675578
your mature game for mature people, sir.
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>>749693663
There's a reason they caught on so much in the west while PLAYSKOOL GRADES 1-5 didn't.
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stop.............................
fucking........................
criticizing..............................
NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>749693267
My dad works for Monolith Soft oops I mean Monolith Shit and this is Xenoblade Genesis gameplay
>All sidequest can be skipped to completion
>Combat is mashing A until the enemy dies and thats it
>You build up a gauge which makes a special attack that kills enemy and boss in one hit
Be sure to say thanks to Enel and Chuggaconroy!
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>>749692943
it's good to teach them a lesson otherwise they come out soft like you, bitch
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>>749693797
Your console has no games! Nanana-naa naa!
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>>749693721
Also a baby game.
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nintendo is still trying really hard to keep a pretense of quality, that its just a few games being bad and they still mostly make good ones, but its glaringly obvious nintendo is cracking at the seams, they are becoming slop peddlers, a fate that keeps happening to formerly "quality" japanese studios
just like what happened to capcom, bandai namco, konami, square enix, and sega
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>>749692830
why did you use a custom model to make these, it's really distracting
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So now that this thread is nearly over and the tendies have lost its safe to say Nintendo is the true main antagonist of the gaming industry. Not even Sony games are this shitty now.

>>749693797
Shouldn't have supported a company that literally makes our most hated games of all time, bitch.
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>shop anywhere
wtf were they thinking?
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LOL
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So now that this thread is nearly over and the tendies have lost its safe to say Nintendo is the true main antagonist of the gaming industry. Not even Sony games are this shitty now.

>>749693797
Shouldn't have supported a company that literally makes our most hated games of all time, bitch.

>>749693950
All of the games on Shitch Poo are already slop. Fortunes Weave is universally agreed on 4chan to be the worst game of all time.
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>>749693990
There go my hopes of the game concealing some super difficult post game.
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>>749693961
tendo is just following in the footsteps of sony
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>>749693950
Nintendo already has a reputation for making some of our most hated games of the 2020s. Fortunes Weave is legit the closest thing to a modern-day Sonic 06.
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>>749694121
>>749693950
>>749693267
>>749693015
>all these truthposts
>not a single tendie to combat it
Based Nintendohaters won this thread.
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>>749694123
i was holding out hope for a big comeback, brand new 3d mario and zelda that are pure gold, but they are embracing the way of the slop
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THREAD HIT BUMP LIMIT WHILE BTFOING SHITTENDO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>749693990
The deku businessmen sucked and were just added to give you refills if you wasted everything in the dungeon.
Terrible solution, but they're at least useful now
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>>749694238
3D Mario is gonna be so slop easy bruh. Nintendo are embracing the slop arts
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>>749694238
this. as someone who has loved nintendo since the snes days it is so sad to watch them go like this. xenoblade genesis and kirby world beyond are sure to be my and many other 4channers two most hated games of 2027...
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Okay, thats pretty fucked
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>>749694238
Legit wtf is Sakurai doing making the new Kirby such openworld sloppa? Is Nintendo so scared that a new Smash title will get BTFO with that uglyass neo-Fox design?
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>>749678130
Only the biggest dumb fucking faggots expected more than the bare minimum out of Nintendo.
This is (nearly) 1:1 as remakes are supposed to be
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>>749694384
Every Nintendo title on Shitch Poo is fucked and unigersally hated by us channers with actual standards.
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what's wrong with the new xenoblade? it looks as shitty as 2 and 3
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>>749694054
>Not even Sony games are this shitty now.
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>Russian troll farm data center gets blown up
>All of the tendie shill posts disappear
Curious.
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the disco light is so ridiculous for whats meant to be a "surprise" enemy, on the same level as yellow paint, feels insulting as if the dev called me a retard
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>>749694519
Still better than Shaniqua's Weave, tendie shill.

>>749694510
Genesis is even worse than 2 and 3 and we hated those two games so much as is.
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>>749694605
>Still better than Shaniqua's Weave, tendie shill
How so?
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>>749694519
Meanwhile, at Shitendo:
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>>749694510
Itll be forgotten as it should be after FF7 Relevation eats its lunch kek
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>>749691573
It used to be a baby game, now it's a fetus game lmao
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>>749694365
>>749694238
And like I'm cool w shitting kn Sony but the forced hate on them recently is seriously giving tendie deflection. Esoecially now that we know alot of the hate is from botfarms >>749690821

Tendies must be desperate now that every modern nintendo title is hated slop by everyone woth a brain.
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>>749694758
nigger emblem?
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>>749676480
How they redesign the puzzle where you shoot arrows to frozen eyes?
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>>749676375
>the way journos try to avoid saying anything negative in the hands on previews is sending me
Couldn't be that they were blown away by it, no no, it has to be a conspiracy. never change
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stop...........
criticizing......................
NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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THREAD COMPLETE!

WINNERS: The based Nintendo haters

LOSERS: The nintendo shills

Highfive, team.
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>>749695004
There's a reason the vast majority of /v/ calls it the closest thing to a modern Sonic 06.
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>>749694758
Those are the ugliest women in gaming and I seen Horizon and TLOU2.
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All the based Nintendo haters move to this thread
>>749671830
Lets make those shills afraid to post their tendie slop anymore
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>>749695238
this achieves nothing, tendies are like disney adults, nintendo is their friend, not buying slop would be like betraying a friend
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>>749695475
Which is why they still bought and loved Shaniqua's Emblem, despite the vast majority of 4chan calling it the closest thing to a modern-day Sonic 06



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