A new Final Fantasy golden age has begun
>>749694034did they fire that ff14 guywake me when they did
>>749694034HOLY FUCK, Famitsu gave something... THEIR AVERAGE SCORE!?!?!?
>squareenix>retooled mobile game>2dhd>character.png when talkingi already know everything about this game, no thanks
>>749694034>Make good game>It gets good reviewsBaffling information.
>>749694034Has Famitsu ever given a game under a 7? Japs are fucking retarded.
>gachaslopno thanks
Sounds cool.
>>749694034>Famitsu reviewers shilling new FF sloppaAnd the water is wet.
>>749694034Yeah, a new "golden age" being heralded by (reads the fine print) a repackaged version of one out of their dozens of dead gachas of theirs.
Famitsu be like>Final Dragon Fantasy Quest 10/10/9/10>any actually cool western game 9/8/7/8
wowowowowowowow
>>749694034>Less score than FF13yikes!
>>749694397Who?
>>749694034We did it living in the past boomer bros
>>749694034>20-30 hoursDo Famitsu reviewers play on Easy and run away from every encounter? My demo on Expert lasted 7 hours and I'm pretty sure I wasn't fucking around either
>>749694724>character.png when talkingstrange critique
The writing was too childish for me to continue. Especially when turn based means less tactics 25 years later than ffx with its ctb you start thinking well why am I even playing this
>>749694397rent free
>>749700495And that's a good thing.
>>749700495Broken clock
why are there so many games with "Resonance" in the title recentlyControl ResonantPlague Tale ResonanceFinal Fantasy Resonance
>>749708484Market patterns. "Infinity", "Eternal", and "Unlimited" were the thing to add 5 years ago but have fallen out of style.
>>749708484Cool words are cool
>>749708484It resonates with people.
Call me a huge gay fag for this nuclear take but I think it will be good
>>749710080The demo was already good so there's no real reason to think otherwise.
>>749694034Is this one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time? It's made by the same team that did the massive smash hit Elliot, which was recently called "the next Final Fantasy" and "better than Chrono Trigger". Square Enix has yet another blockbuster on its hands here and we're ALL buying it because it's turn BASED (as in "based and redpilled"). BOOB PHYSICS!
>>749710080Fibby bibby and /thread. Practically everyone already awarded this GOTY.
>>749710080how dare you say that on /v/this is where queers from r/games go to say no no words, be contrarian, and think they're owning the chudsyou can't enjoy games here!
Can't wait to see this refurbished gacha garbage flopping.
>>749710381Brace for extraordinary disappointment.
>>749706472I kind of don't like portraits because they distract from the sprites and a lot of modern devs will just use it as an excuse to have the sprites just stand around doing nothing while dialog is happening.
As a reminder for FFResonance fans, Angry Birds is available for PC through the Microsoft store.
>only a 36>from famitsuahHAHAHAH ITS FUCKING SHIT
>>749711631>>749711702Do some people just say words and act like it's a quip?
played the demo on my switch, liked it, but dunno if ill buy on release, I do want switch for physical or just get on steam, dunno yet
>>749711940The switch version has the full game on the cart so I'm tempted to get it there. Did it run well on switch? I played the demo on steam.
>>749711793First time with Famitsu reviews?
>>749694034shit sounds boring.
>>749712041then go replay revengeance for the 5th time
>>749712035XIII-2 was fantastic though?
Ill buy it just so they can make a 3d one next
>>749712764Nah.You buy Resonance to fund Season 2 of the gacha.So Resonance-II.
>>749710381can't wait to see you cat trannies be raped and killed by niggers
>2 points less than XV
>>749712824I'm hoping they'll do Mobius as a standalone release next. That could be a real 60 hour game.
3D 4-6 please
If any of you played Brave Exus or whatever it was called; was the story good enough to be it;s own game? I am skeptical because it's a gacha repackage and that doesn't bode well for the game's general quality. The silly cameo cutscene attacks are already a hard pill to swallow
>>749712963XV was good
>>749713194Bazza...
>>749712010I have no complaints, its a turn based game, had to play it on portable mode since my charger broke and have to use my phone charger, but it was fineill wait for actual reviews to see how it runs in there tho
I played the demo for an hour and loved it. I really liked the animations. I am getting it.
>>749713110I'd say yeah. It's a perfectly serviceable adventure. Don't expect high literature, but the world of Lapis was fun to learn about, the Veritas were cool enemies, and it all came together with a cool final boss that I at least still remember ten years later.
>>749714626You've already said this a few times ij this thread, samefag.
>>749708484Everyone subconsciously wants to be Wurthering Waves.
>>749712035All of 13 games are god tier, we don't have to pretend otherwise anymore.
>>749714836Nigger.
>>749694034i can't see this game as anything other than a free to play mobile game that was shut down solely so it could be repurposed and sold for $49.99+tax. it is so off putting that I doubt I will ever check it out no matter how cheap it gets. this is just another example of how absolutely shit modern gaming practices are.
>>749715149>that was shut down solely so it could be repurposedThat's not even close to what happened though. You've created a fantasy in your own head to get mad about.
>>749715061This comic clearly shows all three of them are the same person.
ok but how much of Brave Exvius' story does it cover?
I refuse to play anything hd2d, sorry but Im not subjecting my eyes to that jeetslop no matter how good it is.
>>749712035that's the only good 13 game tho
>>749694034Never going to buy $50 EoS'd gacha scraps
>>749715643Supposedly it's just season 1, but I imagine they'll fold in a little bit of season 2's context to make Sol less out-of-nowhere.
>>749715803what's the point of not adapting the full game? sequel bait? dlc?
>>749715706>no matter how good it isMost psychopathic words have never been typed.
>>749694034What even is this? Is it a console version of that shitty mobile game?
>>7497158541. sheer content mass, that'd be like a 250 hour game if it covered every single story arc from a 10 year long gacha. The workload of adapting the story and characters would be 10x greater.2. the story is widely accepted to have gotten worse as the game went on. The scope constantly had to grow and new elements constantly had to be raised to keep the content train chugging along, and why take the rotten apples when everyone already knows they're unpleasant? Brave Exvius reached its end for a reason, the game's story as it ended was not anywhere near as enjoyable as when it started.
>>749715854Too much story, lots to expand upon
>>749715747thisoctopath died for this trash.
>>749715889New game built out of the gacha game's bones. Takes the structure of the story, world, and characters along with graphics and music, makes a new game entirely. No part of the actual gameplay is anything like the gacha.
>>749715856>Most psychopathic words have never been typed.good morning saar!
>>749715981>everything I don't like is indian!You rely on smallminded strategies to diffuse discourse. I will use the old ways. Faggot.
>>749694034Fuck OFF.This is just another:>Game is a hostage letter to the fansIf you don't want to buy an ugly 2DHD game made up of scraps and repurposed mobile game content it'll be a sign that "erm AKSCHUALLY no one likes old Final Fantasy!"No, you retard. Old Final Fantasy was epic. It pushed technology. It pushed story telling boundaries. Final Fantasy used to set the bar and standard for games going forward. It was a system seller. It was something highly anticipated because you knew it was going to be an audio visual treat with a globe trotting adventure with high concept ideas and epic story telling.This is just cheap filler product that is designed to sell exclusively under the guise that if it does well enough maybe FF17 will be some kind of "return to form." Fuck that.
>>749716015FF17 has been multiple years in development, if its turn based on not has been long decided
>Classic Moviegame Visual Novel>9/10Holy fuck this medium is embarrassing. I can't wait for Square to go bankrupt, albeit 30 years too late.
>>749716015you would think e33 success would prove to these retards that a turn based game with high production values and a gripping story is something people desperately want. but you just know they will make ff17 another gay retarded genre bender no one asked for or likes. and the sad part is, even IF they tried to make a classic ff game again, they dont even have the talent to pull it off now.
>>749709393are people that much fuckign cattle they think this shit works? Seeing Revelations everywhere 10 years ago drove me nuts
>>749694034You zoomers will never see a golden age of anything. Those days are long gone sadly.
>>749716138E33 was last year, man. Game development has become a 5~7 year process. It won't see results until 2030.
>>749710381too low budget to truly flop
>>749716054If the Gooch can't save FF, nobody can
>>749710080ur a hueg gay fag
>>749716015Your combination of disinformation/schizoposting with a new cat meme favored by low IQs is telling.
>Game (franchise) with no strategy or roleplaying is somehow an equivalent roleplaying experience to Baldur's Gate III
>>749694034>Classic JRPG adventure>HD-2Dbarf
Based
>>749716359It earns a lot of points for not trying to push sodomy into my life
>>749716359... said nobody. Nobody equates them as "roleplaying experiences". Despite the name, the video game genre entitled "RPG" has little to do with the activity of roleplaying. I know, you're going to get outraged and reply as if you can't understand that. But it really, really does not. RPG as a video game genre only requires that the game possesses a system of incremental statistics that increase as a standard gameplay mechanic.
>>749716418it seems a little fujobaity to me
>>749713110Gacha stories are never good enough to be their own game. That's why they are gacha. They are serialized, intended to go on for as long as the money rolls in, and also intended to end at any point. You cannot create a good story this way, without a clearly structured beginning and end.
>>749716430BUT THE BOXES HAVE LABELS ON THEM FOR A REASON WPO@HP#@*J@#F
What exactly is this game? I saw an image of some characters with Terra in the battle, is it like Engage where you summon the spirits of previous games' characters, but they're not really part of the plot?
>>749716486Sword of Convallaria's story would have been fine as a proper game
the idea of a nonsensical crossover allowing you to summon past FF stuff is hella retarded. That alone is a no from me. Mobile slop is a heeeeeeeeeeeellll nah
>UE5slopPass. I don't know why you would choose the blurriest engine in existence to do a 'pixel sprites in 3d perspective' rendering setup.
>>749716540Final Fantasy universe has all the games "connected" by a dimensional rift. So side games will use that lore to do things like this where you summon characters from mainline titles for attacks and shit, the mainline characters are totally irrelevant to the plot
>>749716540Pretty much
>>749716628Why is it retarded? It's really quite well established as something reasonable within the series
>>749716572I didn't play it, but most likely not
>>749716762Well I did play it so what I say goes
>>749716540People are comparing them to jobs, but they're more like ff6 espers and they're just stat sticks that show up in battle and let you learn abilities that you then equip like accessory abilities in ff9
>>749716430Call of Duty is my favorite RPG
>>749716823Call of Duty has no system of incremental statistics. Your bullets don't level up.
>>749694034>main story is about 20-30 hoursThank God. I spent over 150 hours in Rebirth and didn't do everything. And that's only one part of a three part game.
>>749716731It's not reasonable at all. FFs are standalone stories. There is no interconnection. Cloud or Terra or Sephiroth or ANYONE existing in this game is pure nonsensical retardation. It won't be acceptably explained and if they ignore it, that's worse.
>>749716794You can't ever trust a gachafag when they say a gacha story is good. They literally think more words = good story
>>749716880>FFs are standalone stories. There is no interconnection.ENTER
>>749716880>There is no interconnectionOnly if you ignore the explicit interconnection that has appeared a bunch of times not only in spinoffs but in the actual mainline gamesNo I will not elaborate on that, it's obvious enough that if you don't know about it then you are not worth discussing this with
>>749707487The combat in this is more complex than FFX
>>749706279I went through expert in 5 hours 35 minutes. Did all the bosses, even went chimera hunting for a bit. 30 hours sounds about right, assuming 6 chapters.
>>749716880>It won't be acceptably explainedThey're memories from across the void. The Interdimensional Rift that connects the FF games (which is canon by way of FFV and several others, but most notably exemplified via Dissidia) connects to Lapis too.Cloud is not physically on Lapis. A record of his story is. Lapis is just a world where memories are weaponized, by manifesting them as a semi-sentient illusion called a Vision.
>>749717040Kino
>>749716931Gilgamesh is a different Gilgamesh in every game. That's like saying Biggs and Wedge or Cids are proof of interconnection. Nah, niggie.>>749716984>only if you ignore my headanon >edit1: no i will not explain it i owe nobody nothing>edit2: thank you for the reddit gold i got this no nonsense attitude for image boards after i transitioned
>>749716897Feel free to tell me where it's story falls short
>>749716897I think you can't trust someone who spends all day on this site and has endlessly spammed these threads with 'le gacha! le memberberries! but the character cameos!' over and over, then when told to fk off replies with 'this is my first time ever posting here ever!!' everytime
>>749717040>They're memories from across the void. The Interdimensional Rift that connects the FF gamesUltra cringe shit as expected. I hate being right.
>>749716430Like dota?
>>749717097>Gilgamesh is a different Gilgamesh in every gameWRONNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!Gilgamesh in FFV, FFVIII, FFIX, FFXII, FFXIII-2, and many of the other spinoffs (FFI Dawn of Souls, Mobius FF, etc.) are all the same guy.(Gilgamesh in FFXI and FFXV are different guys, admittedly.)
>>749717097>different Gilgamesh in every gameimplicitly untrue as his origin is rarely actually clarified
>>749717157I think you'd complain no matter what explanation was given, because you're an intellectual coward.
>>749717189Wrong>>749717197Given the games aren't connected at all his origins don't need to be elaborated to differentiate them. They're different characters.
>>749717179Technically, yeah. MOBA as a genre is a distinct blend of RTS, RPG, and action games. The RPG elements are not the strongest, levels are swift and small in a game like DotA, but they do exist.
>>749694034the VA is absolute garbage, but memberberries being jobs is kinda cute
>game is a love letter to the fansSo is just like 9?
>>749710080You are a huge gay fag. But the game will definitely be good. Maybe even great.
>>749717127It sounds like you've been spending all day arguing with people on 4chan for a long time.
>>749717270No sir, you are incorrect. FFVIII Gilgamesh explicitly calls for Bartz, the protagonist of FFV. This makes no sense at all for him to be a different person. Gilgamesh makes similar references in XIII-2 and FFXIV, as well as outright saying it in Mobius FF. You are wrong, wholly and utterly. Gilgamesh is one man, traversing the Interdimensional Rift after Exdeath threw him in there.
>>749716540mixture of esper/gf systems with job/FF9s armor style mastery, you get to slot one on a party member and they grant a summon like finisher (hence the cg cutins) while promoting specific strategies and enabling specific skills/spells that you can have each character master and equip separately with an AP system
>>749717157This. FFV sucks for the exact same reason.
>>749717319>Final Fantasy>Names reused for different characters every entry>UMMMMMMM BUT THIS NAME IS UNIQUE THE GAMES ARE CONNECTEDnopeheadcon retardation.
>>749694724i thought the same about octopath 0 but it ended up being quite good
>>7497172859 is a love letter to FF1-4this game is more like a hail mary for FF5-13's game design
Told you guys he wasn't worth discussing it with
>>749716864Sure it does. Different weapons you equip have different statistics (fire rate, reload speed, base damage, etc...) and as you play, you gradually unlock higher levels for both your character as well as individual weapons. It varies by game, as all franchises do, but Call of Duty and really many first-person shooters have long since implemented "Roleplaying Mechanics" equivalent if not more impactful than anything in Final Fantasy.Battlefield 6. Borderlands. Far Cry.Hell though, like I said, the greater insult is that FF's core combat mechanics, be it Action-oriented or Strategy (Turn-Based), are just balanced like horeshit to the point you don't even have to pay attention to whatever you're doing at any point in time. People loved to shit on FFXV for its embarrassing accessibility, but VII was just a different breed of braindead 20 years earlier. Lacking any semblance of genuine RPing is just a slap to the cock after the balls have already been snipped.The Player is optional to the video game. God forbid (You) or I get something to do in a medium defined by its interactive nature.
>>749717394Not an argument anon. I'm not saying all the Cids are the same guy, you'll notice. However, the gray skinned, white eyed, kabuki-painted, red cloaked, multi-armed swordsman constantly looking for Excalibur and Bartz? Yeah, that's the same guy. That's part of his story. That's the joke.Do I need to bring up his story in Duodecim, where explicitly recognizes Bartz and several others? Oh, wait, you've never played Duodecim, because you're a dumbass who thinks his shit take is hard canon.I don't think you've actually played any Final Fantasy at all, really.
>>749708484You now remember Resonance of Fate
>>749717448I don't recall you ever getting a level 50 AK-47 in Call of Duty. Since when was increasing base damage a mechanic? Seriously, describe that to me, don't be glib and assure me it happened.
>FF4: The Elemental Fiends>FF5: Gilgamesh>FF6: Ultros>FF7: The Turks>FF8: Seifer, Fujin, and Raijin>FF9: ?>FF10: ?>FF12: ?>FF13: ?>FF15: ?>FF16: ?Why did the games stop having rival fights?
>>749716864I only played CoD:MW, but there was indeed a level up system and different guns (and gun attachments iirc) and perks that you unlocked as you leveled up. There was even a "prestige" system where you get to max level and then reset and do it all again. You need to play the games you talk about, anon.
>>749717495I've started this game so many times only to then not touch it for years and forget everything so when I pick it back up I have to just start again
>>749717551Unlocking guns and gun attachments is not incremental statistics, it is an inventory. You'd need to have a gun damage stat (i.e. attack) that goes up with your level to be equivalent to what I'm talking about.
first time im hearing about this>hd2dnot interested
>>749717394>names reused>weapon names reusedYeah, nigga, that's what parallel worlds are. Gilgamesh is the world hopper.
>>749717483>That's the jokeYou're so close anonin fact you hit on the headlike bamyet you're still to retarded to get itit's a joke. it's a staple. a recurring gag.just like biggs and wedge are generally incompetents and cid and engineer Look obviously you believe this to be fact so you can just present square enix's official statement that the series is all connected. you have no argument but headcanon until then.. *shrug* nice try.
>>749717587How is that different than learning different abilities from Final Fantasy jobs? Or even by leveling up the VIsions in Resonance?
A 36/40 from famitsu is like a 5/10 isn't it?
>>749694034>CONSOOM THE REHEATED GACHA LEFTOVERS OR FINAL FANTASY GETS IT
>>749717587Is exanima not an RPG? It doesn't have incremental stat boosts.
>>749717679Because the jobs are not what make it an RPG, the incremental statistics are. The ATK and DEF and HP stats that go up on level up. That is what makes a game an RPG or not.
>>749717535Wouldn't Cid count for FF13?
>>749717716Exanima absolutely has incremental stat boosts, it's just completely hidden from the player. Every room you enter and every enemy you kill increases your skills very very slightly.
>>749715934>2. the story is widely accepted to have gotten worse as the game went on. The scope constantly had to grow and new elements constantly had to be raised to keep the content train chugging alongsounds a lot like another FF game we know
>>749717516You been asleep? I don't blame you, Call of Duty has been in the shitter for almost as long as FF at this point, but Weapon Levels are old news at this point.https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Weapon_Level?so=search>Since when was increasing base damage a mechanic?Well, that's all statistics do in FF, so I was just going off of your standard.
>>749694034why the fuck is cloud in it? why the fuck is cloud in tactics? why the fuck is cloud shoehorned into everything now?
>>749717672Dumbass, Gil's gag is not equivalent to Cids and Biggs/Wedge. Gil's gag is that he is literally the same guy, here again, looking for Excalibur, and once more he finds Excalipoor.
>>749717728>he's never played an RPG that doesn't have incremental stat gains
>>749716408those boings are audible
>>749717806I will flat fucking repeat myself. Unlocking guns and gun attachments is not incremental statistics, it is an inventory. You'd need to have a gun damage stat (i.e. attack) that goes up with your level to be equivalent to what I'm talking about.
>>749717535beatrix amarantseymourjudgeslike nigga do u play games?
>>749717786XIV's story is more like a bell curve currently with regards to quality
>>749717827RPGs that don't have incremental stat gains do not exist. Search your video game libraries and realize.This is why Genshin Impact is an RPG and Breath of the Wild is not.
>>749717818>Look obviously you believe this to be fact so you can just present square enix's official statement that the series is all connected. you have no argument but headcanon until then.. *shrug* nice try.
>>749717764Uh oh, sounds like black ops 2 is an rpg too then.
>>749717535>FF9Beatrix, Kuja>FF10the bunch of non optional summoner fights, the ronso blowjob brothers, Seymouralso 10-2 explicitly has a yatterman esque trio that Yuna and co fight with almost the entire game>FF12If you didn't lay out the judges one by one they'd probably have been like this>FF13see above with Cid, who should have clearly had a Cieth fight>FF15the guy who was clearly designed for this gets corrupted and dies the first time you fight him iirc, though the dragoon lady could've also worked>FF16Hugo is like the second or third order closest to a comic relief villain in this game and you do fight him at least twice while he drives a lot of nonsense in the middle of the game
>>749717695According to famitsu>it's as good as or better than everything in the red boxes>it's worse than everything elseInterestingly, you can kinda also tell from this when scores started being bought.
>>749708484By committee buzzwords made by marketers.How many titles used Origins and Revelations in their fucking title?
>>749717896Kay. Here you go.https://www.siliconera.com/tetsuya-nomura-reveals-the-origin-of-ffv-gilgamesh-final-fantasy/>Nomura also reflected on Gilgamesh’s appearance in FFVIII, and remarked that “he’s become very popular as he continues to wader the space between dimensions.” Now shut the fuck up, kay?
>>749717587So because the game allows you to choose your incremental statistics, rather than deciding for you, it's not equivalent?You're right actually, it's not; it's engaging the player in making decisions that affect gameplay. Whereas Final Fantasy thinks for you.
>>749717994No, because an inventory is not incremental. Inventories are all if:then. Increments go up and nothing more.
>>749718020Exanima has no incremental stats.
>>749716408>Final Fantasy, especially modern Final Fantasy, has so little purposely sanitized sex appeal that this webm of pixelated boobs has appeared in every single Resonance thread that has ever existed, and people pretend to fawn over it
>>749718020So The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion isn't an RPG? Help me to understand your obsession with incremental statistics and how adding layers to the mechanic is somehow a bad thing.
>>749718046It literally does, it has 15 levels that go up by reading books and entering rooms, anon. They are just occluded from your sight, you don't have a status screen, but they're still there.
>>749718073What the fuck are you talking about? Of course Oblivion has incremental statistics. Are you a moron?https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Attributes
>>749717992At no point does it say the games are connected in the article or your quote. Literally just says Gilgamesh can go between dimensions. This could simply imply that's his in-game capabilities a trope shared by all of them like all the othe recurring names.God damn I should be named Cid the way I am taking you apart.
>>749718123Anon. Nomura spoke of Gilgamesh in FFVIII as the same character in FFV. That is the be-all end-all, he is one man, in two games, and there is no other room for interpretation. You are just pathetic now.
>>749718145Did he? Because that wasn't stated at all. You can't read. That's three strikes, boy-o. You're out
>>749716809they are decidedly rooted in the job system of FF5, that is why they get called that. particularly in how they unlock abilities that you can equip even after you switch to a different vision.but yes, in terms of swapping them around between your party members, and having benefits only available while they're equipped, they also function like FF6 espers. good blend of the two mechanics in my opinionmy only gripe with the visions is unlocking them. i strongly suspect the quiz answers you give don't actually matter, so there's no point. i also find it insanely corny that instead of art or animations of pivotal moments from the characters' games, they just show gameplay footage. also, they copped out by not using original FF7 for cloud, i'm not afraid to say itfina a cute
>>749718051anon this post would make sense if it was about haranging the game camera to upskirt jill sixteen not literal titty jiggle on a character wearing nothing but a cloak over lingerie
>>749718098Attributes are optional to progress. They are tied to leveling, but are not automatic or predetermined. You have to decide to upgrade them and can in effect ignore them and continue leveling up indefinitely.It's a choice you have to make after the fact, similar to how you can unlock and equip attachments that are level-locked, but also ignore them.
>>749718182You can't even speak english, apparently. I literally cut out the line for you.
>>749718202You're a shill, it's okay.
>>749717270Based retardbro.Gilgamesh from 5 is the exact Gilgamesh that appears in almost every other Gilgamesh-blessed entry in the series. He is explicitly banished to a rift between dimensions by Exdeath, then encountered there at the end of FF5, how exactly are you struggling to understand that this explains his appearances in other games?Have you even played FF5 you idiotic secondary?
>>749718225you're an unmedicated schizo shitting up my board with every post, but that's also ok
>>749718076Those aren't incremental stats, those are skill points. Your character doesn't get more damage or more hp from reading or exploring. How is that any different that leveling up your player and unlocking perks in black ops 2?
>>749718190>spongebobDidn't read. If you disagree with me you are wrong.
>>749718210Being optional does not make them nonincremental, anon. You are making a baffling twist in your logic. Inventory items are not incremental, your strength stat is. It only goes up or it does not go up. You can have 50 strength or 100 strength or 10 billion strength, it doesn't matter, all that matters is that it is divided into increments. Your laser sight in Call of Duty is not a statistic. You cannot have 50 laser sight. You can either have a laser sight, or you can have a green laser sight, or a big laser sight, but you can't increment your fucking laser sight.
>>749718262Whatever, nigger
>>749718256Regardless of what you say, you know I am correct, and that's why it angers you.
>>749718258Because perks aren't incremental, but the skill points are. Fucking christ, it's not that complex.
>>749718240>>749718219No need to double post. You already lost and have been unable to produce a statement by Square Enix (the owners of FF) to prove their connection. Getting sad bro.
>>749715316It was shut down because it wasn't profitable anymore. Make a barebones repurposed version for extra profit rather than trash it completely as it had some kind of playerbase and the marketing making it seem like it's not just a modified version of a gacha game done with a team of minimum wage indian devs.
>>749718309Anon, Tetsuya Nomura is a Square Enix employee, and, in fact, the creator of Gilgamesh specifically.
>>749700495yeah so what, more of these fucking gacha companies need to make single/multiplayer focused non-gacha games out of their games, just look at GBF Relink
>>749718309>>749715061gee i don't even have to post it because it's already in this thread, i am not surprised that you didn't see it as you evidently can't read>umm subtext isn't a thing, if it isn't explicitly stated for total retards to digest, it's not trueplease stop enjoying my franchise you obviously aren't cut out for it
>>749718304The number of perks you get also go up as you level up. Is that not incremental? Why does skill points going up count but not number of perks?
>>749718310In other words, it was not "shut down solely to be repurposed". That claim is baffling, and idiotic, and backwards, and there was no plan to repurpose it at all for the past 2 years that it's been dead, the lead developer of Resonance had to fight for it after the success of the other 2D-HD games.
>Final Fantasy in the big 26>2.5D slop to boot>AND a fucking mobile portThis thread is embarrassing.
>>749718309So is that a "no" on the FF5 thing? It's the best mainline game in the series, you should go play it, though I doubt being shown you are wrong will actually convince you of it
>>749718376No, it fucking is not. Getting your fucking tactical gloves perk is not FUCKING incremental, anon. Unless every single perk is in fact ONE perk of ONE effect THAT GOES. UP. IN. [[[[[[[[[[[[I-N-C-R-E-M-E-N-T-S]]]]]]]]]]]]]
>>749718451the only thing incrementing around here is your blood pressure autist-kun
>>749716430Spotted the zoomie.The Great War of JRPG vs WRPG one of the earlier events of gaming's timeline.
>>749718408Yeah. I hope it fails. I don't want to add "gacha port" to the list of remake and remasters that modern gaming is. All gacha ports need to fail for the future of gaming, or the next decade is just going to be rereleasing all the EoS'd gachas.
>>749718451So what stat goes up in exanima in increments? Damage? HP? Or is skill point a stat? Why is number of skill points a stat but not perk count?
>>749718278Attachments affect statistics that are incremental. You're using an attachment that doesn't (it actually does in some cases) because it's convenient.Leveling up unlocks attachments. Attachments increase statistics.But if you don't like that, then how about Far Cry? Far Cry has attachments, weapon levels, skill trees, and multiple endings. Ironically, it also has RPGs that can be upgraded, so you can RPG in your RPG while you RPG.
>>749718502Skill points are functionally a stat if gameplay mechanics are operative off of them, yes. Which they do.
>>749718580So is perk count.Less perks, less modularity. Less modularity, less ways to tailor your build into gaining an advantage.Sounds like perk count is a stat that goes up in increments too.
>>749718509>Attachments affect statistics that are incrementalI just. FUCKING. Explained to you how that is not the case. I will repeat myself AGAIN. You cannot have 50 underbarrel grenade launcher. You can either have an underbarrel grenade launcher, or you can have an underbarrel smoke grenade launcher, or an underbarrel multigrenade launcher, but you can't increment your GOD DAMNED underbarrel grenade launcher.>Leveling up unlocks attachments. Attachments increase statistics.BUT THEY DO NOT IMPROVE [[[INCREMENTALLY]]]. THE WORD. HAS AN IMPORTANT MEANING AND DISTINCTION AND FUNCTION.THEY ARE IF:THEN. YOU HAVE YOU +15% ACCURACY FOREARM GRIP, OR YOU DON'T. YOU NEVER. INCREMENT. YOUR ACCURACY STATISTIC.AND IF YOU DID!! THEN!! IT WOULD BE AN FPSRPG!! THOSE FUCKING EXIST!! LIKE DESTINY! AND BORDERLANDS, WHICH YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, IS INDEED A FUCKING FPSRPG! THEY'RE QUITE REAL! BUT CALL OF DUTY ISN'T ONE OF THEM!Fucking lord, Far Cry could be too, I don't know, I've never played it. But yes. FPS RPGs are a fucking thing, anon.
>>749718483Bought Octopath 0.Pre-ordered FF: Resonance.Praying for NieR: Reincarnation to get the gacha-to-single-player-game treatment next.It's OK that we don't agree on this.
>>749718768he doesn't actually believe what he's saying, he is just spewing words he heard elsewhere, it's not much of an argument
>>749718713Skill point count isn't a stat, by the way.
>>749718821ur mum is a stat!
>>749718768I bet you buy every remake and remaster too. >>749718787How can you possibly be this angry at an opinion you disagree with? That's my own opinion. I created it myself. What is wrong with you?
We loves the Finals Fantasy
>>749718871My mum's an rpg, unlike exanima
>>749718891Oh yeah, no, I'm sure it is. Very original and compelling
>>749718821The skills themselves are incremental. Deal with it.
>>749718896Unreal Engine default lighting is so ass, holy shit
>>749718940Oh, you can make remise and riposte incrementally stronger as you play? Didn't know that. Must be a new update.
>>749718917AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH HANEKAWA SEXO!!!
>>749719028where smugs are concerned, for me, its raphi
>>749718917Have you never created your own opinion before?
>>749694034Genuinely drink broken glass, shill.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/days%20final%20fantasy%20resonance%20/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/final%20fantasy%20resonance%20/type/op/
Why do zoomers hate turn-based games?
>>749719021Concentration certainly gets stronger as it levels up.
>>749719260If it's just one stat then Black Ops 2 has you covered, man.Great RPG.
>>749719240It's not a sufficiently niggerfied genre for zoomers to be able to enjoy it. Whip up a turn-based game with guns and mumble rap if you want to make a quick buck
>>749719240why do you post this bait in every single resonance thread? you should seriously consider suicide.
>>749719216Imagine all the ones he made that aren't properly titled.
>>749719293Does Black Ops 2 have level 50 bullets now?
>>749719301>the zoomer recoils; "i've been found out"
>>749718954We loves it
>>749712963Famitsu lost their credibility years ago and this is one of the reasons why.
>>749719367>consoleniggers think this looks good
>>749719315No. Does exanima have level 50 damage now?
>>749715992Kek, you bodied that freak.
>>749719332i'm still going to hate your dirty jewish kind and not fall into your generational war diversion, hope you enjoy all the future bombings israel is going to receive :)
>>749719367>no real blacks anywhere>everything color is washed out>TAA blur everywhere>chromatic fucking aberrationSomehow consoleniggers think shit like this looks good, all it's missing to be the perfect shitshow of AAA slop is depth of field
>>749718713Thanks for clearing that up. Would you consider Final Fantasy III an RPG? It has incremental statistics, but they're tied to your Job (with exception to HP), so you can effectively raise your level as X, then switch to Y and have the same statistics as Y as if you leveled as Z. Reducing the majority of the progression to simply being an if:then conundrum, I.E. if you switch to this Job, then you will have these statistics.
>>749719443>how can i convince people i'm not recoiling for having been found out?>i know... i'll recoil some more!!!!you will be the one drafted to die for israel zoomfriend, not me
>>749719458It may be if:then but it is nevertheless incremental. Jobs just change the increments by which it alters.If Call of Duty had level 99 hand grips that leveled up, it would be an argument for Call of Duty to be an FPSRPG, not an argument against the qualifiers to be an RPG.
>>749719454>>no real blacks anywhereOne follows the party around for the entire game, you can't get rid of him
>>749718309Imagine quadrupling down this hard on you're own retardation because you misunderstood something but are too insecure to admit it.
>>749719550
>>749719367>bollywood dance numbers
Why do people still bait this as gacha?You don't even roll for anything?
>>749719481keep telling yourself that shlomo kike, i haven't worked a day in my life and i won't be enlisting to die for your subhuman kind. Once again, enjoy getting sent to gaza and being raped by a sandnigger, kike!
>>749719624It's a way to shut down discussion.
>>749719625curious there's been no denial of the zoomerism allegation
>>749717913>ff16>39/40Lmao
>>74971967616's only real flaw was the ending
>>749719676>XIII-2>40/40
>>749719662zoomeroids are our friendscease your faggotry, our future together awaits!
>>749703253>actually cool western gamesuch as.....
>>749719779Gun
>>749719736the ending was based, what are you on about
>>749719662zoomers are 14-29 years old retardbro
>>749719662>kike still deflectinglike magic>>749719760he's a jew who is intentionally creating diversion, that's basically 99% of the people who push generation war shit on this board. White Zoomers, White Millennials, they both wear the same uniform against the jewish menace.
>Gacha addicts are so desperate after Sqeenix continually pulls the plug on them after spending who knows how much on their gambleslop that they're begging for this new business model of repackaging "free" gambling machines and charging them full price for it while they're still mechanically mobage under the hood>This is being touted as a "return to form"Fuck sake just END this company and the drones who defend this shit. I hope 7 fatigue does them in because holy shit has that trilogy been a goddamn shitshow for close to 7 years now.
>>749719779Dead Space, Factorio, Batman Arkham Asylum, TES Oblivion, Hitman Blood Money etc.
>>749719805Just a considerably shittier version of 15's that offered only dissatisfaction after an otherwise interesting journey
>>749719856>>749719825>>749719760none of these are denials of your inherent disability (having been born after the year 2000)
>>749719876>while they're still mechanically mobage under the hoodAnon, Resonance is a completely different game than Brave Exvius. Of anything at all, this is the most incorrect, ass-backwards take you could have. It's the hood that's the same, everything under it is replaced.
>>749719893>t. lead poisoning enjoyer
>>749719893I'm from 95
>>749719876It really do be like that.
>>749719981It really does not. It's the opposite. He said everything wrongly. You are pointing at the sun and calling it night. What the fuck is wrong with you people.
>>749719532What would be a valid argument against the qualifiers to be an RPG? That's what I'm looking for, because if it isn't pretty apparent I think incremental statistics are a joke. Not really their existence, but that it's exclusively all you need to be considered an RPG, especially in cases like FF when 99% of the time the statistical increases are randomized and/or arbitrary.Really, at the end of the day all I wish is that aforementioned statistics had some purpose outside of combat, or if FF's game worlds and stories actually let you interact and engage with them. I mean, who gives a shit if one character's STR is higher than the other's? It changes absolutely nothing. Change. That's what RPing means to me. How (You), the player, change the game in real-time and the variety of ways that different anons can approach said change in any given moment.With Final Fantasy, it feels like the only thing you can do is Attack (Physical) or Attack (Magical) and it's depressing because the franchise has had some really talented, creative people producing it for decades. Even some of the worst games in the series have a lot of cool shit in them, conceptually, thematically, visually, audibly, and so on. It feels like such a waste that so much creativity is wasted on such low effort game design.Anyway, thanks for your time my mane. Sorry those other homos (and me to some extent) got you buttflustered. I just love video games and hate to see such lazy developers rewarded, and whether you agree with me or not, nothing on the horizon's going to change my view that Squaresoft were, are, and continue to be THE epitome of sloth. This crapfest of a repackaged gacha is just further proof.
>>749719876>game adapts story/setting utilized in a gacha>plays completely different and utilizes entirely different systems as it is no longer a freemium game that will have supplemental additions to its intended gameplay>uhh but there's gambling in it because it uses stuff that a game with a gacha previously did
>>749700495would really like more gacha games that died to come back as a buyable, single player experience (Brave Frontier, Arknights (Endfield) and Infinity Blade)
>>749719917>Bro it's TOTALLY NOT a mobage and TOTALLY ORIGINAL!>Just ignore the fact you can summon characters from previous game in that have 0 baring on the overarching plot like tapping Amiibos for in-game items and AI fighters for Smash! :DI see RIGHT through your ruse, marketer. May this game bomb and and E33 continue to rape your company.
>gachafags desperately defending and shilling their game
>>749720106Its funny because its the same fucking low quality jpg game but you pay a full sum instead of the usually gacha drip amounts. The shilling is fucking hilarious because its objectively a 3/10 low quality game regardless of the IP.
>>749719935so the problem here is your hatred of turn-based betrays your zoomerism, which makes it obvious that you are fabricating fabrications here
>>749720106Anon, "characters from a previous game" don't make it a fucking mobage or a gacha. Use your logic, shitass. Is Dissidia a mobage?
>schizo melty>Melbourne early evening hoursoh yeah, premium FF thread time
>>749720186>its objectively a 3/10 low quality gameCan I have your copy of the full game if you're done with it?
>>749720227Of course it isSo are all the Tactics games
>>749720032>because if it isn't pretty apparent I think incremental statistics are a joke. Not really their existence, but that it's exclusively all you need to be considered an RPG, especially in cases like FF when 99% of the time the statistical increases are randomized and/or arbitrary.You're free to your opinion, I was describing how the genre is used exclusively.Roleplaying as an element is not something that is confined to a genre because it's not an implementation. You could roleplay in Mario, Halo, or Fortnite if it pleased you. Roleplaying is an activity the player does, not the video game.
>>749720064I've seen what Octopath 0 is and played enough PSP games to know when I'm being sold a portable game meant to waste my fucking time with trivial, bite-sized content to pass the time on my train ride to my local slave factory. I'm no fool.Also love how you CONVENIENTLY DON'T MENTION THAT THIS GAME IS ONLY 1/7 FUCKING CHAPTERS FOR 1/4 ARCS, FAGGOT.
>>749720204>zoomers hate turn based games>meanwhile okemon still outsells everything besides cawadooty and zoomers love excretion 33
>>749720204I'm not the zoomer you were replying toTurn based is shit if it's not an SRPG
>>749720308>games made for handhelds are the same thing as cell phone gamesoh, you just hate video games, I get it
>>749694034Final Fantasy fans are the biggest shit eaters I've ever seen and this thread proves it.
>>749720227>iS dIsSiDiA a MoBaGe??He says with 0 fucking irony likely because he's a pretentious retard that doesn't know what system it's on.
>>749716015Or maybe people tried the demo and thought it was fun. Mentally ill tranny freak. Why are cat posters always the dumbest faggots around? There has never been an intelligent post with a cat reaction image.
>>749720379FF7 was the Halo/Skyrim of it's time
>>749720419Idiot fuck retard, "mobage" is for phone games exclusively.
>>749694034& they did that by cutting 99% of brave exvious content. Fuck off
>>749710003lol
Guys, you are arguing with gachafaggots who need to defend the game they played for 10 years and also mindbroken 40 year olds who haven't liked Final Fantasy in 20 years, but who also don't play any other video games, which means they haven't played any turn-based games in 20 years either. To these people, this one $50 gacha game IS a renaissance.
>>749720376Thanks for agreeing with me that you're not being sold a fully packed game, but a segmented, stripped down gacha that's meant to string you along so you'll by the 6 other parts for the full experience.Oh, but I'll think of each like discs, just like the good old days!
>>749720512So the same as the last heavily astroturfed $50 turn based game?
>>749720541Your mental retardation is impressive, where do you do the gymnastics at normally?
>>749720453>Mobage (モバゲー, Mobagē; "Mobile Game") is a portal and social network for games owned by the Japanese company DeNA. Mobage (モバゲー, Mobagē; "Mobile Game") is a portal and social network for games owned by the Japanese company DeNA. It derives its name from the Japanese slang word for mobile games.>It derives its name from the Japanese slang word for mobile games.>>>mobile gamesLike I said: Pretentious retard who knows nothing of the things he says.
>>749720462Oh yeah all that "content" of GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND HOPE YOU ROLLED THE LATEST OVERPOWERED PIECE OF SHIT BECAUSE THE NEXT GRIND REQUIRES IT GRIND GRIND GRIND
>>749720640Mobile games are games played on one's mobile phone you dribbling retard
>>749720557That last one was an industry-wide astroturfing, it wasn't localized to people on 4chan.
>>749720640>idiot fuck uses wikipedia>not even wiktionary but the wikipedia of a PARTICULAR COMPANY>nevermind that "mobile game" itself DOES NOT REFER TO HANDHELD CONSOLES BUT INSTEAD FOR PHONE GAMEShttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mobile_game#English
>>749720587That's a concession. Thanks for playing.
>>749720679industry wide just means the same bait gets spammed in facebook, reddit, and twitter
>>749694034>only a week of content What's the point
>>749720719>reposting your own whinging from redditholy shit lmao
>The PSP's advanced graphics capabilities made it a popular MOBILE entertainment deviceKeep digging that whole, retard.
>>749720790>he does't know japanese>he doesn't even know english
>>749720719Yay! Another decade long trilogy of Final Fantasy games!THIS is what Final Fantasy is all about. We like this.
>>749720790cant believe the gameboy was a smartphone this whole time...
>>749694034turn based combat chads, we are so back
>>749720790Oh damn...So any game with a Switch port is a shitty mobage now
>>749720830>versus sharteen would have saved us from trilogy slop schizo>when there hasnt been a single mainline sequel in FF since FNV
Can't wait
>>749720826>>749720831>>749720878>D-Doesn't count!
>>749720901>>when there hasnt been a single mainline sequel in FF since FNVThat's less impactful when there's only been 2 mainline games at all
>>749720901>versus sharteen>FNVI can tell you're mad.
>>749720948>everyone who notices I'm retarded is the political leaning I hate
>>749720916No Rain, you can't just say that! You're supposed to go on a journey because someone raped your mind and now you have amnesia because le dark and gritty storylines is what people want from Final Fantasy
>>749720948That's right, it does not count.
>>749720961I'm having fun actually, I can tell you aren't, though
>>749720948Ironically, being used by the man pretending not to understand that "in modern parlance, mobile game refers exclusively to games designed for smartphones", when he knows it full well.
>>749721015>no ukek that was fast. I accept your concession. Next time, don't reply so angrily that you make things up while attempting to name something else.
