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Incognito mode :D
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Will the next title be an interquel or will they remake Electrosphere?
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ALL MY NIGGAS
Keith is my favorite wingman
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>>749709416
Hope it's the latter. Electrosphere deserves proper distribution.
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>shooting down black widows left and right in online
goddamn project ace bastards I want to FLY the plane
STOP MAKING ME KILL IT AND PUT IT IN MY HANGAR
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>>749709416
I think ac online is a big hint that infinity 2: electric boogaloo is habbening
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>>749709519
Whole PS1 trilogy needs it, but AC3 especially because of that dogshit international version
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>>749709461
>no Snow
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to the person who recommended SASMs to help me get the S rank on thousand points of light, thanks. i got it done in no time.
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Kate is my plane wife.
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>>749709361
did moon and fag22 know they were wings + wingamn?
why didnt they arrest em or something?
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>>749711428
Topkek was definitely at least a little suspicious but he probably thought he didn't need to because even if he let them go he could shit on wings in the air, the shadows main thing is overconfidence after all.
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>>749709461
Keith is a badass
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>>749709361
The Rio Bajo scenes made me want a proper spinoff game on the ground.
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>>749711428
Nomad honor. You wouldn’t understand, you’ve probably never lived on the plains. When you share a yurt with someone then you share everything, whether you like it or not.
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>>749711428
why kill people on the ground when you can kill them in the air instead
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>>749709461
Wiseman was probably the worst black guy in the series. I was supposed to feel something for his death, but I didn't.
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>>749712271
>Brave Arms would have taken place in Sapin in 2025, centered on a regime holding control over the country. The protagonist was a blonde man dressed in a Bionics Armed Suit, who would have joined a resistance movement in Sapin's capital, Gran Rugido, to fight against the regime. One of the supporting characters would have been a female rebel named Anna, regularly accompanying the player in battle. Occasionally, the protagonist would encounter mini-bosses through the story. One particular fight involved a commando named Herzog, who would fight with a combat knife and an MP7 machine pistol.
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>>749709593
Already abandoned and near death
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>>749712354
moon is a fraud, based cope calls her out for being a little bitch about seeing a sheep slaughtered. n*mad larpers
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>>749712689
Cope is also a larper though
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>>749712746
nah, cope was legit
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>>749712746
cope just wanted to be free and fly his jet
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I love Kate!
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>>749712979
He wasn't an ace, he spent the game coping about it
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>>749712746
Cope was the son of an actual sheep herder, but the country dried up and they had to sell the sheep so he didn't inherit shit.
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>>749709593
they already said Online is a whole alternate world
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>>749712271
>watching all the ridiculous superweapons as a mook on the ground
would it be a horror game?
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>Now that we're down a guitarist and drummer, this bassist is a one-man band. So it's time for me to go.
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Can the DLC have a Sheep ride passenger? Or an escort mission with valuable Sheep? I feel like there's potential here. Right Anon?
>Yes
>No
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What a fucking lazy Zero port. The squadron intros are still the same PS2 artifact JPEG emblems.
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>>749712746
He's the Ace of Aces
The Wings of Theve
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>>749713801
we already had Kirk the flying dog in 5
make a DLC mission where you shoot down a Sotoan sheep transport before they reach the frontlines
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>>749713836
it was just preorderbait
be happy with what you got
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>>749709416
I know some of you have actually played electrosphere and you're excused coffin bless.
Are the -rest- of you aware it's basically "All in the head"? I just want you fuckers to be sure you're looking for a remake you want. I'm going to kill you all with guided munitions if it somehow happens and you suddenly go "WAIT ITS SIMULATED BY A KEK MAN KEK KEK" every thread. I will fucking murder you.
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>>749709461
For all we know the AWACs pilots might be black.
Not dealer. Dealer is probably the whitest man on the planet. Dealer probably fucking reads the times and quotes Tennyson at people.
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>>749713056
My being a late starter pleb showing here: Are there just...outright civilian private planes? I've seen plenty of jet liners etc, but is there any mission from the games with like a cessna skyhawk just pootling about?
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>>749714108
mods will fix it
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>>749714720
Avril builds a non-combat F104 in the intro of 7, and there's official artwork that implies after the game's done Trigger gets his own civvie F104 and they fly together.
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>>749714720
AC7 starts with a civilian plane, sort of
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>>749709361
>error code 001
make it stop
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>>749714842
>>749714835
You know what, good job guys. Well done. That's my question and its spirit answered very well.
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>>749709361
I hope the CFA-44 is added next
My desire to kill dirty soats with the ADMM needs to be fed
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>>749715007
>season pass lololol
fuck that shit
i cant get pixys morgan or the galm logo because of that jewery
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>>749713310
there's a some youtube channel doing just that. Watching their Alicorn vid from the pov of a IUN or Osean deckhand was pretty surreal. Its a decent channel like 7/10
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I was just reminded of this clip, and you should all watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjnR_J4zTGI
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>>749713310
>>749715492
this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtD_HEPnEM0
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>>749715612
>QAAMs be like
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>Ladon brats keking @ ur lyfe
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>>749715612
The casual
>Missed 'im
fucking kills me
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AC8 cast is pretty solid. I'd still say AC7 has my fave cast in the series, Spare Squadron were incredible and the Striders were cool. After them, I'd say AC5, and after THAT it's AC3.
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>>749716695
What bird is the protagonist? A cassowary?
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I love Kate
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>>749716849
Let's all love Kate
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Baxter is smiling down at us while lynching Sotoans in the Promised Land.
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>>749715612
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>>749712746
Cope was an actual herder that lived the pastural lifestyle. It was based when he called out the military nobles glamorizing a cultural for jingoistic purposes when they never experienced it themselves.
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>>749717427
>cultural
culture*
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>>749715726
>>749715492
I appreciate the restraint in not injecting fucking awful self voice acting for scenes going OH MY GOOD LLOOOKK LOOK OH MY GOD.
Would have been a very easy mistake to make that people 99% of the time do. Just let the scene play out.
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>>749716740
Lmao yeah that'd be fun. We got got the Garuda and Phoenix for Talisman and Scarface 1 respectively. A falcon and an eagle for Falco 1 and Gryphus 1 also. I think a hawk would fit Rey nicely.
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>>749716740
Some kind of parrot. He knows at least two words after all.
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>>749717558
I know you mean yes and no, but in my heard you mean
>Fuck
>Sotoans
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>>749717598
shit right, four words. Probably six so we can include "Sheep" and "Revenge"
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>>749717486
I think they were doing analog horror which most of the time doesn't have that stuff, close to Monument Mythos and Gemini Home Entertainment
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>>749717692
You can just say its you anon. I won't tell.
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>>749717427
Cope was larping as an ace
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REEEEEE
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>>749718125
just... bang into them or something?
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>>749718125
Wait till you get to the high altitude mission, you might smash something
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>>749716209
4aam correction is needed
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>>749714629
Don't insult my cute husband
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>>749712689
I'm Sotoa-Turkish and when I first saw a lamb being sacrificed and then being served its liver when visiting extended family as a kid, I didn't want to eat or look at meat for a whole week.
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>>749713836
Isn't that good then? It's not supposed to be a remaster
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>>749719696
I'm afraid only DEATH corrects a S*t*an
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>>749720190
Based on the total war ai remaster, yes, it is a good thing those weren't lazily upscaled.
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I'm playing AC3 (JP) on my PSP in bed :)
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>>749714629
>>749719909
Unfortunately fellas, Dealer looks like this
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>>749720343
Holy comf
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>>749720457
Whoah, Diplomat looks like this?!?
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They managed to sneak in close range assault for hype moments, damn. The moment tewy got shot down is pure kino.
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I'll repost my own post because I'm at work and can't play right now, but I tried AC3's first mission, and it seems like it's kinda great, I'm gonna enjoy this
People weren't lying about the physics being more weighty either, it feels a bit more realistic but still in a fun way
Also I would give my life for Rena
what do you mean she started piloting before 9 and Fiona started her training at 3 wtf is wrong with these people, they really saw all the protagonists aces from the previous wars and decided to breed more
It does make me wish we had more pixels on the screen though
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>>749720457
never watch your idols stream
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>>749715135
They probably will change their mind about season pass since nobody will be playing MP in a months time. Not unless they massively rework things.
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>>749720457
>dealer is a fluffy anime girl (boy?)
I'm supposed to be mad about this?
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How do you like or dislike your difficulty in ace combat games?
I've said before, most of them are painfully easy. usually the difficulty just comes from tedious missile spam and harder to tail enemies. Do you actually like that?
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Scenes that should have been in AC8
Kate tucking Coster and Tasha into bed
Baxter presenting his manifesto on "The Sotoan Solution" to Rex
Racing Tasha through a tunnel
Bombing of Sotoa mission
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>>749723792
Kate sweaty workout session
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>>749723792
You forgot
>Kate riding Rex in FPV in the cockpit of an F-18
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Is it possible that the fanbase all simping for Kate over Tasha is just a sign of how old Ace Combat fans are now?
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>>749723954
Always been into older women, anon
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>>749724093
god, she is so pretty
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>>749724093
Tasha looks about 10 in that image kek
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>>749724490
She's not actually that small. She's just farther away.
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>>749724548
I know its all about perspective playing tricks but I found it amusing nonetheless.
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>>749724490
she is a 10 for sure
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>>749714629
>Dealer is probably the whitest man on the planet.
Counterpoint: Gryphus 1.
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>>749717325
>spammers constantly try to shit up threads over Baxter existing
>game comes out and he's immediately memed as a massively racist bro
what a turn around
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>>749725372
it's amazing
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>>749725372
>memed
Can you really call it that when he legit calls Toprak a "sheepfucking yurt dweller" in-game
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>>749725372
It was that scene where he picked up an accordion and started singing about removing nomads while Rex played the trumpet is what won the hearts of everyone.
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>>749725372
That is an upstanding chocolate-hued brotha removing soatiggers one yurt at a time
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>>749723920
>Rex = "Wings" = bird
>Kate = "Little Bee" = bee
>"Birds and bees"
It's all but confirmed for the DLC.
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>>749725372
>dies shielding you from a filthy S*toan
bro was committed
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The DLC will involve Rex uncovering Baxter's manifesto and enacting the Sotoan Solution. Cipher will make an appearance and you have to keep him and his mercs well paid to keep them on your side.
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>>749723954
Tasha is honestly too immature to even think about fucking
Also she is pretty into coster and decent people don't cuck their friends
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>>749725763
>have to keep him and his mercs well paid
That's a self-sustaining economy.
>kill Sotoans
>get paid
>hire mercs to kill even more Sotoans
>get paid even more
You could probably solve world hunger in Strangereal by killing Sotoans.
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Chopper ;_;
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I crashed an embarrassing amount of times on the megafloat reactor walls, just end me
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>>749725763
>him and his mercs
Isn't Cipher just a single pilot? Hence why he was assigned to an existing Ustio squadron and apparently randomly paired up with Pixy, the
>you'll be Galm 1, and you'll be Galm 2, go kill stuff
bit at the first mission. Same as PJ being shuffled around later. Plus there's a good chance Cipher is out of the game entirely if the reporter guy couldn't find him despite tracking down wanted criminals, active warzone participants, etc. It's Phoenix that you could put up a sign at your local post office saying "NEED JET PILOT TO SHOOT HUTS. WILL PAY $10 PER CRATER" and the next day you've got 17 jets parked outside and for some reason the whole place sounds like electric double bass.
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>>749726292
By "him and his mercs", I mean that I headcanon the Savian mercs from M28 as Cipher's own company, which I should have said in the first place. But yeah, Phoenix and his crew could work too.
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>>749725763
>Paying people to kill Sotoans
I pretty sure a whole bunch of people would do it for free?
>>749725889
I felt a weird brother-sister vibe going on with the two of them. They are always playing together but I never see anything that would be considered flirting.
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>>749726292
I wonder if Cipher is Savian. That's why he went off the grid because he's too rich to care at that point.
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>if you buy Neucom stocks RIGHT NOW then you, too, could fund your own air force someday
It's free real estate anons
It's a fox and hen market
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Honestly, the disappearance of any AC protag after their game will always be a big question mark, so might as well accept it. 'cause we have no reason to not believe they're not all alive. Meaning Phoenix, Mobius, Blaze, Cipher, Talisman, Trigger, Gryphus, etc. are all either concurrently active or retired. And if you accept that, then there's no way they wouldn't be participating in all these wars, at least some of them should.

But that's pretty much a feature of AC, the old guard makes way for new blood every game, so don't question where the protags are.
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What if AC9 has Bishop from Assault Horizon as the protag after he flies through a wormhole into Strangereal Earth
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>>749726683
I kinda get why devs don't bring them back in the development kind of way too
>Have them be involved in the game
>Overshadow the player character
>Have them confirmed dead or KIA in-game
>Fans will have bitch fit about it

The only winning move is not to involve them at all and at most, just reference them here and there.
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>>749726683
Eh, only Mobius and Phoenix really make sense to be participating in AC8. Cipher was in Ustio and Belka for that war and that was 35 years prior, so it makes sense he might not be flying anymore. Blaze and Trigger are Osean and they specifically didn't participate in the war outside of the Doniphan Foundation which just sent an aircraft carrier. Talisman and Gryphus are on entirely different continents.
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>>749726806
Yup, pretty much, just don't mention them and leave it to the audience's imagination. Also, Mihaly was pretty clearly a past-player-character-analogue, with him being an Ace of Aces and a gigantic autismo like (You). So there's a little bit of that.
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>everyone is hyped for an ac3 remake
>when all of ac3 was a simulation
>also, so much has happened since the creation of 3, like, ya know, STRANGEREAL now existing that they have to mess with 3 to make it fit
We will get the corporate hellscape but I think it will be confined to a small nation.
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Everything after the rainband was shit, ground attack missions are shit i want to fucking fight actual aces and get shot down, not die to GROUND WARNING dogshit because every attackers flight model is fucked.
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>>749726960
General Resource just acquired Enso Order, whom spanned the entire globe
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>>749727010
Nigger? Use the Rafale? It's literally the best plane in the game short of the superplanes. Attackers are a meme, they were never good for anything in any AC game.
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>>749725763
>My Struggle, by Ellis Baxter
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>>749727081
ground attack missions are shit and literally no one will convince me otherwise, and the boss fight at 22 was also dogshit, fuck off with your drones that delete cannon rounds.
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>>749727056
>takes over the world in 10 years
I dont see it
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>>749727085
"Ellis Baxter"... you know, that really does sound like a name a KKK Grand Wizard would have. It just FEELS like it belongs to a racist.
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>>749726960
>STRANGEREAL now existing that they have to mess with 3 to make it fit
not at all. they've already handled that by a minor retcon of USEA (United States of Eur-Asia) into Usea, the continent. nothing else in the world is mentioned in 3 IIRC and the actual locations are already there, the continent shape was even already in place.
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>>749727143
OpenAI and Anthropic took it over in a little over year.
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>>749727109
>ground attack missions
F/A-18E with SOD makes short work of them
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>>749727187
>took over
>when no one wants it
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>>749727229
Yeah that's part of the definition of getting "took over", ain't it?
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>>749727195
i dont care what makes short work of them, they are fucking borring and lame
>go attack thing that will literally never kill you because their missiles have worse tracking than standard missile
ok cool when do i fight an actual ace
>heres shadow 69 that dies easier than the average unnamed f35 and mig 31 that fly around
awesome stuff very fun.
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>>749727085
>>749727153
His actual first name is Ellington, which just makes him sound even MORE like a racist.
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>>749727153
>tfw they find a robe and a hood in Professor's locker
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>>749727269
>BAXTER "PROFESSOR" ELLINGTON
oh yeah
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>>749727294
>He skipped the cutscene where you get to burn a giant yurt and hang a Sotoan while wearing the robes
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>>749727363
>they don't call him professor because he teaches; they call him professor because of how much hate he professes
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>>749727365
>The words "Tie noose" appear over the pulsing prompt as the Sotoan struggles in vain
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>>749727445
>press X to lynch
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>>749727414
>He educates everyone on the Sotoan menace!
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>"By Mobius 1, he is even worse than a separatist; he is a s*toan"
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Take notes, western devs. This is how you make black characters.
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>>749727609
Just make them raging racists?
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>>749709461
Keith's hairline is fucking IMMACULATELY cut, Goddamn
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>>749727609
make a white man and stuff a niggers skin over it so american nigger worshipers suck him off?
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>>749727157
>Usea is such a shithole that people are fine with the entire continent turning into a petri dish for the megacorps
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>>749727258
Ai litteraly doesnt make money. At least the mega corps do.
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>Account based in Oured Osea
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>>749728008
And yet it has the world in a chokehold. It's bigger than just money.
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>>749721010
It's amusing how people are fine with that now. It was one of the major criticisms of Assault Horizon at the time.
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>>749728673
It being only in 3 separate 5 second moments meant to highlight a cinematic sequence helps I suppose
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>>749728673
It being used in climactic moments make it so much better. Like the Toprak PSM jumpscare was kino because of it.
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>>749728673
Probably because for the most part you do the entire fight normally and the DFM moment is after a cutscene so it just feels like an extension of the cutscene. If Tewy had gone invincible after a certain point until you used DFM mode you'd see more seething
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>>749714530
With AI being such a hot topic the past few years, the time is ripe for a Electrosphere re-release or remake.
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>>749729007
>The AIs Trigger fought just screeched in binary
>The AI Rex fought speaks its own language
It's actually kind of scary how it is evolving in the backdrop. Like beyond all this war and ace bullshit there's something brewing just beyond our reach.
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I'm at mission 17. Will it get explained why you randomly became schizophrenic with the voice of a guy you knew for less than a day?
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>>749729058
Yeah in these games the machinations of megacorps and the AI stuff are happening on the periphery and are only revealed a little through some missions. Even then we haven't gotten the full picture.
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>>749728673
They used it correctly this game i.e. minimal as fuck and more like an easter egg. Does make me wonder whether they'll experiment with a talking protagonist again?
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>>749729193
ENSO got away with everything despite our and DD's efforts. General Resource is now on the rise. Even if we won it doesn't feel like a victory with Electrosphere waving in the distance.
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>>749729158
Just play the game
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>>749729306
After I sleep
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>>749729604
G'night!
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>>749729604
Goodnight nigga
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>mission 28 just has a anime OP playing in the background while all the friends you made along the way come and help with fighter jets

it's so cringe it comes back into being pure kino holy fuck
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>>749730410
>The true Aces were the friends we made along the way!
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>Baxter went all boomer on Tasha
Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4OBEzFUfhX0
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>>749730517
>Coster seems as equally clueless as Tasha
I like to think Baxter made both sit through a history lesson after this mission.
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>>749730670
But only because Tasha kept bugging him about dinosaurs after they returned back to the Endurance.
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Which Super Weapon is the most fun to fight across the entire series?
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>>749729158
If you just wanna know, it's not techno bs and it's implied to more likely be supernatural than schizophrenia
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>>749727707

living in strangereal sucks because it seems every country goes to war every other year
no wonder why a lot of people in the setting feel a world without borders is better off since you're not sent off to die over some lines on a map (you will die for corporate expansion instead)
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>>749730864
>time for me to move on
>haha jk also my soul isn't in that dogtag retard
Why did he do it?
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>>749714530
What i want is an AC9 set in the time of AC3, but outside the simulations, sold in bundle with AC3 ported on pc and localized

Also would be kino if
>corpo war actually happens
>protag is a pilot for upeo or something else
>he is so good that all the data fed to the simulations is useless because the events go in another direction nobody expected because of you
>nemo get released and want do something drastic because "i have seen every possible outcome, this would be the best possible thing"
>but you wheren't in the simulation, you can make a true happy ending
>after the bad guys are defeated, you have one last fight with nemo and win saving usea
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>>749718109
What a bunch of retarded bullshit.
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>>749730831
Might be controversial for some but I think the Chandelier has the overall best design as a superweapon fight.
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>>749730745
>Its all fun until she has to deal with history homework in addition to her maths homework
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>>749731029
With the way they introduce Savians and their merc economy, I suspect we'll be playing as corpo mercs in the next game.
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>>749731029
>all data fed to the simulation is useless because you're just so good
I'm like 70% sure that the DLC for 7 was answering the question of what 9 would be about considering Nemo is a protagonist and possibly the antagonist
There's a big thing in 7's DLC about singularities and how they change the tide of a war, which Trigger was and which Nemo would be as well, but then mission 3 is about how Trigger and Torres were both singularities and both had the potential to completely alter the outcome of the war depending on who was victorious. So AC9 will be another singularity vs singularity with you outside the simulation and Nemo fighting to kill Dision regardless of how much damage it does.
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>>749730831
Double orgoi
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Am I misunderstanding or is this really just a super simple game where you barely have to think and people only like it for the retarded anime story? I watched someone play this garbage and the dialogue sounded like it was written for ten year olds
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>>749731619
> << YES >>
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>>749731619
arcade gameplay perfected simce the ps1
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>>749731382

Since the original Western release of AC3 was pretty butchered, it wouldn't surprise me if a AC3 remake was in the works since they'll probably recontextulize/retcon things around.
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>>749729058
somehow I got convinced that La Chanteuse is an AI
please correct me on that
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>>749731247
Punished DD is the one who hires you to take out the corpos after they ruined Usea
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>>749732153

wasn't the entire plot of AC3 started because some scientist got cucked so hard he made a bunch of simulations to ensure he kills the guy who cucked him
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>>749731247
Think that is also meant to be where they were going with the online mode but nobody gives a shit about it?
>>749732204
I somehow do think he'll be a returning character. I would not be surprised if we see Tasha as well going back on her promise to not see combat again having missed the thrill of the fight and having an awkward reunion with King flight.
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>>749709361
Ace Flopart
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>>749732645
Doniphan Conglomerate is framed as the "good guy" faction of the megacorps, and given that they're the ones fixing up the space elevator, he's probably going to cooperate with that Rose princess later on.
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Does the bomb radius part work on LACMs? I was trying to get the hidden ace on mission 12(?) where you have to kill all the LCACs approaching the island fast and it would be a whole lot easier if the radius on those was just a little bit larger so I wouldn't have to waste both shots on a single group.
I'm honestly not even sure the challenge is doable though, the assault record just says it needs to be done in under 3 minutes and I've accomplished that a couple times and yet the ace has never spawned, I feel like it has to be bugged.
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>>749732372
Basically yes, but [spoilers]what he's having Nemo kill isn't even the real Dision (he's dead) but the subliminally AI Dision (who also got cucked by real Dision and watched him and his gf die) so it's actually more pathetic than it seems
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>>749732832
LACMs are 'missiles', not 'bombs'.
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>>749732154
The theory is that she's Mihaly's granddaughter.
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>>749733037
She's not, she's a girl from a short story in the Aces at War 2019 book about Rosa who was one of her school friends.
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>>749716223
Can't dislike this man.
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>NEMO gets released after the simulation that was AC3
>Becomes a mysterious pilot who shows up out of nowhere and turns the tide of battle
>Never sticks to a side
>Do this for a few missions until you meet a pilot who manages to damage you
>NEMO gets his old memories back because reasons
>But due to his damaged state, he can't discern what's from the Sim and what's happening for real
>be schizo for a while, looking for his buddies from the Sim
>everytime you find one, they have no idea who you are
>show them footage of the exploits from the Sim
>they get freaked out but it leads to everyone knowing who started this whole mess
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>>749731619
It's a console game, anon.
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>>749732645
>Tasha gets mentioned again in a future game
>It's a tale from the (future) Yuktobanian civil war about a single pilot in an unarmed civilian plane holding off enemy drones long enough for a town to evacuate before being bombed
>fate of the pilot is unknown
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>>749709361
Just finished the game. Maybe I missed it but why did sotoans start this stupid war? What the fuck was the point of all this?
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>>749731619
it's an anime game
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>>749732154
Damn, and I thought I was bad for thinking Trigger was an AI
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>>749733885
Muh nomadic culture
Muh green grass
Enso Order helped prepare and perpetuate the war. I'm pretty sure the idea is that if the FCU or Sotoa win Enso Order get to profit off the result. It's only the stuff right at the end of the game that helps derail the plan. Like originally D.D. and the whole Wings of Theve media push is clearly bullshit propped up by Enso Order originally but the plan succeeds too well, hence the end of the game. Anyway my point is Enso Order probably pushed Sotoa to ravage Usea so they get to swoop in and get lucrative reconstruction contracts. It's part of the Lore that Sotoa was helping hollow out industry/tech on the eastern parts of Usea prior to the war and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Enso Order was probably part of that too.

Ace Combat 8 is about how trad warrior culture morons are catspaws for a megacorp, which now that I think about it, that is one of the more realistic things Ace Combat 8 has.
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>>749711428
because before the scene that we see them toprek was doing the little kid tantrum beg to let them go so he could fight them. "PUH-LEES Moon 11....i don't ask for nothing!!!"
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>>749733885
It's Lebensraum: Strangereal edition.
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>>749730831
Gleipnir, simply because the captain is really damn determined. The atmos ring is also the coolest "fortress" fight by far.

https://youtu.be/Zmf0dqjqF_8
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>>749733885
They industrialized so hard, their stupid country became a desert, so they invaded Usea to make it their new home. Basically, Sotoa created a problem then made that everyone else's problem.
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>>749733885
they had to aggressively industrialize their country to prevent Yuktobania from overrunning them
this worked in the short term, but long term it fucked up their country causing mass desertification and rendering it unlivable

they tried resettling their people onto a floating city but it wasn't enough so the diplomatically minded Sotoans tried to petition the FCU to resettle their population inside it's territory to escape their wasteland of a country

FCU dragged it's tail a bit too long making empty promises rather than outright saying no, Enso order at this point contacts the Sotoan military with the offer of advanced tech to invade the FCU and carve out a new nation for themselves
Sotoans jump on this offer without much consideration

Queue game
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I can't help tying the ghosts and heaven shit introduced in this game to the electrosphere in 3.

Like there's a naturally occurring electrosphere type phenomenon or something going on.
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>>749734089
Stupid motherfuckers could've asked other nations to help out; instead they went for war straight away kek.
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>>749733885
Factionalism within Enso's globalist conspirators
D.D. is a part of the faction that wants to erode national borders peacefully. One of the others got Sotoa to start a war they would somehow use to accelerate things.
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>>749734245
The other nations are helping out, anon. Sotoa's working PoWs to death planting trees to slowly reverse desertification. This is the way of the Nomad.
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>>749734245
They actually did do that, other countries gave them empty promises and thoughts and prayers on facebook instead of actual help
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>>749726683
I feel like we should have at least had a mission where we at least heard about Mobius squadron burning sotoans who got a little too close to north point. Its kinda funny how north point REMAINS untouched even when Usea is getting fucked from every angle.
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>>749733885
filthy fucking nomad goatfuckers getting uppity about "muh desertification" and were too scared to attack on their own continent
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>>749731619
stick to wolverine and TLOU faggot. This is a real video game made for video gamers.
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>>749734571
It's not their fault the FCU is the least competent nation on the planet
seriously they have to get bailed out by plane jesus after plane jesus just to remain standing, at some point someone's gotta take them behind the barn and put them out of their misery
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>>749734571
DLC should be about Yuktobania getting off its FAT ass and burning Sotoa to the ground
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>>749734757
to be fair, Usea has been getting TORMENTED since Ulysses. Its been a complete shithole for over 30 fucking years of natural disaster and hell wars.
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>>749734880
And then General Resource and Neucom will turn it into their own personal litterbox by 2040.
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>>749734880
even before Ulysses they managed to have one of their superweapons hijacked by terrorists on the tiniest islands of their territory

like imagine if some terrorists took over Guam and somehow managed to gain control over half the US's carriers, that's the level of fuckup that AC1 was
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>>749734196
>no mention of Sotoa using bullshit loan traps to get the FCU on the hook for a ton of debt or using a bullshit nuclear meltdown lie on rocky Island to build land battleships, or buying out Comona space base to launch the tonitrus spears undercover, or any of the other shady shit they did prior to the war
Sheepfucker hands wrote this
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>>749733847
>pilot was known to be the mother of 17 children
>she had an older female friend who was the mother of 23 children
>all of them to the same father, a legendary ace
>one of the children is named Cope, and he is the asshole rival
make it happen
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>>749709361
Real Roy's fly with this.
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>>749735001
Judging by how ENSO's going in 8, it seems they've already started
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>>749735001
Trust and believe we will make those who empowered s*toans scream in 2040. Not a single corporate bum will escape laser FAEBs.
>>749735020
You know people keep asking for an electrosphere remake but i do feel like Air Combat has a fun idea that if expanded could be a pretty cool game. Like the Peacewalker of Ace combat where the aces you shoot down could be hired as your wingmen.
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Do Turks larp as nomads too? I thought only us Magyars did that
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>>749736074
Sotoa is mongols+turkey and caucasus stans+iran+india
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>>749736074
As other anons have said before in this general, no country in Strangereal is an outright 1:1 to a real world one, except for Osea which is just America straight up.
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>>749735070
They wouldn't had to resort to that if any other nation would had helped them before, or if the yuktoniggers didn't try to fuck them in the ass first. At the point sotoa started doing that shit the war had already started, the fcu didn't realize it in time. And its not like the fcu doesn't do a million war crimes to win the war either. At the end of the day its eat or be eaten, and Rex ate them all. You only get on trial for war crimes if you loose the war.
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>>749735207
that looks like giant erect nipples
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What are the chances that Enso still have some big secret facility still standing for you to do tunnel run on in the DLC?
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So why don't we just destroy Enso?
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>>749737829
so why don't we just destroy Amazon?
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>>749737723
I would be willing to put money on it. Question will it involve King flight as just Kate and Rex or will Tasha and Coster make an unexpected appearance?
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>>749734051
Pulling a 180 to fart upwards in something bigger than a 777 is honestly pretty fucking based. Totally worth the concussions the crew would have had had they survived the crash.
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>>749737829
Enso has a monopoly on food and special protections under international law. Attacking them risks having your shit pushed in by actual superpowers Osea and Yuktobania, while effectively being embargoed from buying all goods from staple grain to fighter jets.
Ace Combat geopolitics are insane and nobody should've let megacorps become as powerful as they are.
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>>749727524
>>749727414
>>749727365
Okay enough fucking meming it's not that bad. I'm glad Baxter got to be the first professional racist astronaut though that's a civil rights landmark there.
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>>749737829
Good pens made in Yuktobania
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>>749737905
Why -don't- we just destroy amazon? They got a lot of shit in those warehouses.
I'm fucking meming I don't want to turn this into a fucking real discussion on /v/.
Plus surely Nestlé would be be a better target
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>>749738750
Racism is a bit different in Strangereal. Its not whether you are black or white but whether you are Sotoan or Belkan.
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>>749738845
Amazon is just a reseller (mostly).
Nestle and Monsanto are better comparisons.
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>>749737728
Neat. I'm not sure I ever noticed that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqM8YYl9M0o
I need to use SOD more.
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Is AC9 going to be old men running the world or old men saving the world?
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>>749739119
Yeah sure we're....mostly meming. I mean I guarantee someone won't be but I have cope I mean hope in the rest. It's the classic "It's totally cool and fun to call orcs fucking barbarians until the extra credits people tell you they're clearly black people and somehow they're not more racist for that very comparison" thing. Plus he's a fucking air pilot. Basically automatic whitedom.
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>>749738094
Yeah what's with that King Flight thing? So FCU is operating inside Sotoa?
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>>749739119
I mean yeah race barely even exists in Strangereal.
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>>749739263
Yeah SOD trivialized that mission.
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>>749739273
Old men as a superweapon with suspiciously targetable weak points (their knees) in a tunnel. I'm thinking a railgun but it just fires clones of Mihaly at people.
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>>749739301
It isn't really explained. Kate seems to be leading a new squadron with Rex demoted to WSO for some reason? Unless its just the shitpost that they really are on their honeymoon and Rex wanted to bomb a few yurts before he is in the mood to bang Kate?
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>>749714530
I'm in agreement with the people who think AC9 should be in Electrosphere time but in reality with Nemo having just been unleashed, then having a port of Electrosphere as a bonus as making an official English translation for the full script of that game will be worthwhile for those who didn't use the fan patch or only played the international version
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>>749739390
Yeah that could work. I don't mean to imply I'm not down for making electrosphere some form of future reality as
>>749729007
Point out, it's pretty good timing.
>>749731029
This is also all solid. Honestly I posted that expecting people to reply without thinking and your usual /v/ assholery but these are pretty good replies. I know we'll still get people who will turn their entire personality into complaining about the actual plotline or any changes or non-changes but still, thank you for restoring my hope.
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>>749739301
Sotoa threw their entire air force at Rex and still lost, plus they lost the war so they're barely even a country now. The FCU gets to run surveillance ops in their country to make sure they don't remilitarize. Its likely that King Flight is typically a normal squadron with Rex as King 1, Coster as King 2, Tasha as King 3, and Kate as King 4 since Coster is probably still autistic about fulfilling his promise to Baxter.
Maybe since this was just a surveillance op and Sotoa literally doesn't have an air force left, they just sent the one plane in and Rex let Kate fly so he could sit in the back and ponder the dogtags
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>>749739596
>Sotoa threw their entire air force at Rex and still lost.
I do enjoy the game fully acknowledges this with the "terrible plan" moment and just going "yep you know what fuck it this guy just eats planes alive"
It does make me think it clashes with the somewhat false-crisis of the leak that wings is fake: I mean fuck by that point Rex has a small mountain of bodies and multiple absurd missions. I'm pretty sure you could just post mission recordings on enztoob in reply.
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>>749739263
>>749739367
To be fair, this isn't exactly a hard mission to clear the map
You just have to blow up 4 pillars on each leg and there's a lot of explosives near them, LACMs also really trivialize it
I did it with normal missiles and guns only for the medal, and I still cleared the whole map after blowing up the generator
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>>749739596
Tasha seemed pretty adamant about never pulling the trigger on her fighter jet ever again, I'm not sure she stuck around for King squadron
Coster also seemed pretty much done with warfare by the end too but he does have that autism
Kings 3 and 4 are probably other people, maybe Jackpot 9 if she was serious about joining Joker during Mission 28
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>>749710853
no one remembers swordsman
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>>749718109
it wasnt a larp of his own choosing, he didnt really have any say in becoming wings and openly tells you straight up the first time you meet that its a lie
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>>749739789
sure, but we know AI is used to make deepfakes at this point
if they lied before, who's going to believe that Wings shot down a brazillion planes now?
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>>749739908
>Jackpot
I need this photo but with Rex having pulled a Rex and made Kate, Jackpot 9 and Baxter (as a ghost and ghost pregnant) Maybe D.D too, if he's lucky.
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>>749739263
SODs are really good in 8 in general, there are quite a few missions with stuff lined up in rows for them, they have good range and even without upgrades the planes with them carry a ton.
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>>749740030
Wait for the top comment from XxTentlover2015xX and send Rex on a livestream to their house to carpet bomb it.
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>>749740093
>Kate, Jackpot 9 and
>Baxter
Bit of a swerve
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>>749740203
He's got the skills for that tunnel run. I believe.
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>>749739789
fort grays guys were actually insane though, it took them literally getting into planes again and flying to become semi normal
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My sex is Kate
I am Katesexual
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>>749740248
I did enjoy them going full vietcong but only to shitpost on the radio and provide funny paintjobs on planes rather than, you know, scalping everyone in their sleep. Maybe they'd been doing that to Sotoans and got bored of it by the time the base was recaptured.
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>>749740248
They're still happy to ram their enemies
That's not that far off from Torres' SACS Rafale squadrons
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>>749740342
Watch Kate become an overzealous insane woman in the DLC.
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We should have had a mission to sink their civilian capital megafloat
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>>749739592
>>749739592
>thank you for restoring my hope.
Don't let the trolls/doomers/tourists get to you. True ace combat fans know what is good
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>>749740248
>called moles
>living in tunnels underground
>we never saw what was further down in those tunnels
They're building the geofront down there I know it
There is a non-zero chance the DLC will have a tunnel run/geofront fight
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>>749740627
>All those dots are probably yurts
Who are the Sotoan scientists and engineers that put up with this shit
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>>749718125
anon... there's one more missile... do it
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>>749740756
gotta keep the sheep somewhere
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>>749737728
If you're playing on merc route you can also shoot down huckebein
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>>749740727
the geofront is on the mainland!
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>>749739167
he's escorting huckebein who defected, the whole reason the ace squad shows up for that route is because they're hunting him and they so happened to go through the round table to try get away
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>>749727261
>plays a power fantasy game that's the latest installment of a power fantasy franchise
>complains that it's not grunt fantasy
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I WILL DRINK THE LAGER
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>>749741409
AC6 is kinda grunt-ish.
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God dammit, I have claude building a complicated tunnel run mission and it's eaten up 1400 dollars in tokens and 2 session limits running tests where it just instantly crashes at 10x normal speed all night while I was asleep.
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>>749741875
Renting software sounds absolutely horrific.
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>>749741875
Vibecoding isn't for the underclass. Just leave it to superior castes.
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>>749740093
I was kind of thinking something like this where Rex is married to Kate with nothing but daughters.
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>>749740627
>DLC introduces napalm bombs
>Task is to burn down Sotoan chemical weapon labs on the megayurt
>Civilian causalities optional
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>>749742930
>hoffnung but megafloat
sounds kino
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>>749741502
6 is the biggest power fantasy in the franchise due to the scale of each mission.
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>>749741409
If you want a good grunt-ish AC, play Assault Horizon. It's a truly amazing game that doesn't get the credit it is due.
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>>749743745
I can see what anon means. When all the allied grunts are aces in disguise, all aces become grunts.
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>>749743808
>Dogfight mode
No
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>>749743808
>truly amazing game
It is okay as Ace Combat CoD but that's about it. HAWKS1 was better at what it tried to do
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>>749723954
Tasha is your idiot daughter/lil sis
Kate is wife
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>>749744239
>Tasha is your idiot daughter/lil sis
Should have had a scene where you are relaxing with Kate watching a movie and Tasha jumps inbetween them to ruin the moment.
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>>749731619
supposed to be FUN
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>>749723954
Tasha makes me want to have a daughter.
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>>749745665
>hits pipe
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>>749745665
Tasha should have been adopted by Rex and Kate in the end.
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>>749745829
What would her actual parents say
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>>749745665
Lol, I mean I want a daughter, but I do not want an egirl influencer daughter.
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>>749743808
>grunt-ish
Bishop is a Colonel. They literally call him Colonel.
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>>749745897
Wouldn't get a say although if they did probably glad got someone who would implant some discipline in her.
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for Fighters im using the
Mig-31B for Laams
F-16C for Qaams

Gripen E multirole for 6agm

for Attackers im using the
A-6E for Lagm,
and the Su-34 for 4AGM

I feel like I wanna replace something, probably the A-6E for something better for Emergency Sorties, as it isnt maneuverable enough to dodge the Alicorns railguns. I could go Morgan for TLS, or get an A-10 for RKT, or some other plane.
Thoughts?
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I keep failing mission 25. What is the best for ground targets? I like the LAGM but feel like there are better options.
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>>749746404
UGBL
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>>749745897
Considering her parents seem to be deadbeats who don't seem too concerned about their daughter being in harm way they probably would forget they had a daughter?
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I'm fucking DONE. I cannot stand mission 28 on ace S rank. I can't fucking do it! how the FUCK am I supposed to do this fast enough? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME WHEN THEY DODGE 99.999% OF EVERYTHING! WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA

I S RANKED ALL THE OTHER MISSIONS WITH EASE ONLY THIS ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT IS STOPPING ME FROM FINISHING THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME FINALLY AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

FUCK YOU
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>>749746386
Limit break the SU-34 for UGBL, it's way more powerful than 4AGM.
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>>749746386
>Su-34 for 4AGM
UGBL is infinitely superior for online ground farming, you can essentially double their explosion radius with correct parts
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>>749730831
The Aigion Heavy command cruiser from 6. It's got large support aircraft covering it and planes launching from its runway midair making it one of my favorite bosses and furballs. The music for this mission is also the cherry on top
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>>749747124
Time bonus basically doesn't matter if you score enough on destruction, so massacre EVERYTHING.
Also GUNS GUNS GUNS.
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>>749747124
SASM and gun
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>>749747124
Have you tried railgun jousting?
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>>749747364
>>749747270
>>749747248
and I just checkpoint restarted and killed all 4 in 4 minutes

and yet the last time I couldn't down one in 15.

I hate the RNG of this bullshit, I'm fucking done

Even if I get into the final phase with 130k points, without defeating them fast enough I'm FUCKED.

This is just bullshit, if I kill them within 15 minutes I should get an S rank, I shouldn't have to rely on killing the hardest enemies in the game fast enough
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>>749747174
>>749747136
Alright, Ill do that, get the part for damage radius and when 20, probably a pity part in missile tracking?

Any ideas for a dedicated ground boss fighter?
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>>749747682
Over on /vg/ people like the Phantom with MGPs for the Alicorn and Chandelier.
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>>749747838
Aight, ill give it a rip
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>>749747838
It makes sense in a lot of ways.
I'm sure that PLSL would the auto-includes if any plane had them. MGP is the closest thing.
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It's a little strange those linked SAM systems only showed up that one mission
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>>749747547
Like the other anons said, SASMs, guns, or QAAMs. Upgrade their tracking and speed with parts (special weapon upgrades are wildly more effective than normal missile upgrades) and fire them only after baiting flares/PSM with a normal missile.
They'll go down quick, and wingmen with SASMs actually consistently hit, so you can keep those in reserve as well.
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Now that some time has passed I think Retaking of Theve II is probably my single favourite Ace Combat mission.
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>>749750149
I'm a big fan of that truck hunt mission from 7
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I'm going to murder the devs of this game.

I did it. I was PERFECT. I had almost EIGHT FUCKING MINUTES LEFT. THEN I KILL SHADOW 22 AND THE CLOCK RUNS OFF LIKE 30 MORE FUCKING SECONDS THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE

I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN WHY IS THIS THE O N L Y MISSION WITH ANY DIFFICULTY FOR S RANK

AND I STILL DID NOT GET S RANK. WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO HERE I THOUGHT I FUCKING HAD IT WHAT THE FUCK WAS THEIR INTENTION HERE THIS IS BULLSHIT! I WENT INTO THE FIGHT WITH OVER 130K SCORE AND I STILL DON'T GET THIS FUCKING SHIT I AM DONE WITH THIS GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>749750149
TAKE ME UUUUUUUP, I'VE
GOT TO FEEEEEL ALIVE
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>>749750560
>1010 points short
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>>749750628
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>>749750705
What's sad is I was targeting an F-22 right before the mission ended fired my missiles and then the MISSION COMPLETE comes up and I can't get the points.

I literally an furious. This is like the 10th time I've tried this and I'm done because the mission is so fucking long and it has such RNG with the final fight. Just getting there with enough points is so hard.

The worst part is targeting the right planes in the final phase. There's so much bullshit mig 29s and mirage trash planes that it auto targets when what I need is the higher value planes and there's just no time to find / target them.
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>>749750051
NTA I did my first Ace play of that stage and QAAMs hit none of them while I got standard missiles on them. Railgun and SASM are probably the way, or to play enough you learn the guns like how some youtubers do for the other AC games
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>>749750628
Now that we're down a guitarist and drummer, this bassist is a one-man band. So it's time for me to go. That's all. Over and out.
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>>749750858
Anon buddy, first off take a break, however long you need. Second, if you wanna get done with the Shadows quick, use gun, take both the range and power parts for it. In the actual fight just bait the faggots into their joint kulbits where they shoot out in front of you. Yes there will be some RNG, but you can do it fast.
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>>749751293
Also I've noticed during their PSM is when they eat missiles
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>>749709416
I think it'll either be set somewhere in the 2030's and settle some stuff that isn't directly related to Electrosphere, or overshoot into 2050 or 2060 or something and do something interesting with all the spacetalk we had in 8.
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>>749717375
you deserved more (you)s
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This is the only "assault record" I have left

and now I just learned that in order to get this, I have to start an entire new campaign... wtf is this shit? You have got to be kidding me, they locked me out of doing this in free mission? What kind of garbage is this crap?

I hate this game. I fucking hate it. Then there's the achievement for grinding 25 million MRP

I'm just done I don't think I give a shit about this anymore I'm gonna play galactic racer instead of wasting my time with this trash.
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Is Ace Combat with a stick cool? I fear I'll never get to try it.
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>>749753876
yes
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>>749753876
No, sorry.
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>>749753857
Is this the one where you need to kill all the Shadow squadron members in the mission where Kate's 2 squad members die for him to appear in a mission like 6 down the line?
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>>749755553
yes, complete bullshit. I played through the story 2 times already and only realized this now because it's missable.
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>>749753876
It is basically an arcade game. Why bother.
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>>749753857
>I'm just done I don't think I give a shit about this anymore I'm gonna play galactic racer instead of wasting my time with this trash.
Why do you feel the need to do everything now? With 7 I did 2 playthroughs and then just took a break and then did another one like half a year later and had fun with all of them. You can put games down and come back to them later you know anon.
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>>749755553
You only need to kill Shadow 24, everyone else you can leave alone
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>>749753857
If you wanted to 100% the game you were already going to have to do four full campaigns anyway because there's a medal for a full campaign run using only one class of plane for each of the four classes.
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>>749755940
I mean I already played through it twice all the way, it's just annoying just to get the single last assault record I need I have to do a full playthrough which takes multiple days to do even skipping through all the cutscenes because it's 30 missions and I have to play all the way to mission 28
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>>749753876
It's pretty neat, but unless you're also using it for other plane games it's a pain to set up only for one game.
It's like setting up an onahole for one fap, it's nice but the setup and cleanup makes it kinda annoying compared to just using your hand and a tissue.
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>>749756017
You just get it along with the other medals. It's really not a big deal anon. So long as you clear the check in the earlier mission and get to the point where you've done the mission the guy appears in you can in fact just do it in free mission from then on before you start a new fresh playthrough.
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>>749756017
Eh, I could've done my Ace S rank in a day, skipping everything, I just took a break and completed my assault records/medals so it ended up being two days
I imagine it'd be even faster if you're not worrying about ranks or spawning aces
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>>749755753
NTA but that's literally the only missable one in the entire game so I just made sure to get that one and cleaned up the rest in free mission
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>>749756476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7diQ6F904
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>>749756476
Where is baxter?
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>>749756476
The only thing I find confusing about this image is the idea that Tasha would think Rex would be good help with homework? Unless of course its history homework and after a long pause he begins by telling Tasha "Did you know there are three kind of aces?"
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>>749756510
Well I just wish I knew there was something I could miss, the only thing in the entire game yuo can, before I went through it multiple times lol

Already on mission 5 playing through it again it's just annoying it will take a while to go through all these missions again
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>>749757108
You can also miss saving Jackpot 9 which I made sure to do on my 2nd playthrough.
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>>749757065
She barely knew about the Ulysses impact, any help in the history department would do her some good
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Question, does ECM act as a shield, cutting off incoming missles? Or does it only effect planes inside the bubble leaving you vulnerable to longer range attacks?
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>>749709416
They already said that a game set in the electrosphere era wouldnt be like the electrosphere we know it, it would borrow companies and some events, but it wouldnt be nearly as futuristic.
>>749714530
Electrosphere wasnt all in the head though, the events that happened when you played were all simulated since youre an AI, but the world, setting, tech levels, cities you flew in, people were all real.
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>>749756827
he's an old man who can't into phones
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>>749709416
I hope a interqual, plenty if places where we havent had any games yet and even some places that dont even have a name on the map yet.
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The hell is a 'whatsapp'? Some sort of Nomad website?
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>>749757238
>Pre-history with Rex "What happened to the dinosaurs?"
>Post-history with Rex "It may be true that the world has no need of borders but would getting rid of them really change anything?"
>>749757525
Latter
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>>749757570
How else would he be posting sotoan slurs on Usea twitter?
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>>749757787
Baxter you're too old to get it!
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>>749757525
It only affects planes that are in the bubble, which is why basic ECM is kind of meh, what you really want to run is IEWS as it gives tremendous buffs to missiles of everyone in the bubble including you on top of ECM.
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>>749757525
>four man party van
>all off them voiced
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>>749757929
Should have had a mission where the entire of Joker flight was flying in one.
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>>749757929
Always make sure to give it to Chopper on that one mission
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Doing NG+ I forgot how insanely fun the land battleship mission is.
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>>749758269
[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
>[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
>[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
>[ RAILGUN WARNING ]
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>>749753857
You don't have to 100% all in one day JFC. I finally got the 75k flight distance achivevement for AC7 in 2021.
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>>749758650
NTA but some of the S ranks on Ace are too hard for me so I might just wait for some OP DLC plane to help carry me.
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>>749758581
Just don't get hit by a railgun.
It's that easy.
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>>749758650
>think about going back and getting all the achievements in 7
>multiplayer achievements
Never mind
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>>749758581
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>>749756476
Armored Core crossover when
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>>749758036
Now that's just evil.
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>>749759050
I'll never forgive PA for not giving us a ghost waifu in our heads instead of Cope.
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>>749759071
not as evil as bringing 2 prowlers to the cargo plane escort mission
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>>749759071
If they didn't want to die, they should've spoken up
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>>749741471
>supah secret submarine
>propulsion type
>diesel engine
A FUCKING UBOAT
THE SUPER WEAPON IS A FUCKING UBOAT
LMAO
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>>749758581
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>>749759497
That image was literally me.
I've fought the Alicorn more times than I can count. I do not give a fuck about your little landship's peashooter.
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>>749718125
Just let your teammates kill 'em, you've got time.
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The AI made the tunnel run too difficult for me.
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10 more years
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>>749760016
I saw people say that this actually sucks. Is that true? I already got the other post game plane you can get immediately after.
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>>749760106
It's mediocre for what it is. You'll get more use out of the EA-36 or FA-36.
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>>749760106
The EMLB can delete just about anything, if you can aim it correctly, but there aren't really enough UAVs in the kit to really be any use against anything fast
It's also a bit more sluggish than the Game and Barricader, which also have more straightforward loadouts
Definitely more of a bragging rights plane than a useful one, and you want to get the part immediately after it anyway since it's crazy good
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Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy is extremely underrated.
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>>749760232
>>749760245
Is the machine gun good on it at least? Still need to think on what plane to use for the machine gun only run.
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>>749760576
IIRC it's about on par with the rest of the planes, aside from the Sukhois which have stronger bullets for some reason
Personally I'm just gonna use the Su-57 and play on Veteran for infinite bullets for that one, I've already done two campaigns and I have 4 more to go at a minimum for the rest of the medals
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>>749760369
Most people don't even realize it's an AC2 remake thanks to the name.
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>>749760576
fishbed with gun pods
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>>749760726
Fishbed is literally easy mode on AC7 ace.
AI doesn't react to guns so won't dodge anything.
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>>749737728
What the fuck, I never noticed this
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>>749760890
I know you meant 7, but I'm pretty sure guns are the thing that triggers the mission 25 kulbit. It's how they guarantee the player is in more or less the right spot to get fucked up.
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>replay the prologue
>Get to the part where Shadow 22 downs his own squadmate that clipped the bridge to "mercy kill" him and set up a sick PSM dunk on Cope
>The other shadow leveled out before 22 splashed him, it wasn't even going down, just out of the fight
These guys are easily Belka level fanatics, if not more.
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>>749737728
Yup.
Also Pops (and Ofnir) are assault records and they're caught in a dogfight. You're supposed to shoot them down to 100%
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>>749761141
Everyone in Landship 2 was cooked alive, Sotoans make Belkans look reasonable
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>>749761141
>replay the prologue
>cope doing weird sotoan gestures as a clue that he was one of em
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>>749761285
>he worries about it
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>>749761141
Belka did nothing wrong, Sotoa did everything wrong.
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>>749761345
>Press X to throw the Sotoan dog off the deck
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>>749761234
>mfw I'm a sotoan and I will do anything except for the right thing
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>>749761457
>I could save the crew by turning the AI systems on and letting everyone escape...
>OR I COULD LET US ALL BOIL ALIVE AND DESTROY THE SPACE ELEVATOR WE WERE ORDERED TO CAPTURE!
Salvation!
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>>749761393
>Throwing one of the only good ones off the deck.
Cool it there Baxter, he's a real son of a shepard.
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>>749760978
Maybe the heavily shilled 'accurate emulation' doesnt render it
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>>749761393
>miss the prompt
>Baxter flies from off screen and bodychecks him instead despite his fucked up leg
The illusion of free choice.
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Cope..
A piece of shit...
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>>749762016
You'd think they could have done a better ground texture/geometry for the one super close up shot of the ground instead of just like a generic dirt texture on a flat surface.
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>>749762016
why did they call him a piece of shit in his dogtag?
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>>749723954
I think Tasha would've unironically have been much more popular/endearing if she just had non-dyed hair.
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>>749762135
Like so?
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>>749762135
Maybe. Kate is also a lot more of a wet puppydog character so obviously people are going to want to comfort her. Tasha is mostly fine except when baxter dies from hating sotoans too much.
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> << LET US OUT, WE'RE BOILING ALIVE IN HERE >>
<< Not something I'll tell my son about >>
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>>749762016
Jesus Baxter you didn't need to go that far.
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>>749762058
The hilarious thing is the textures makes it look like his tags are dumped on top of a pile of sheep dung.
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Okay
So what the fuck was happening

Like are we straight up haunted, or is this some kind of digital cyberspace bullshit AI thing

Why did the dogtag teleport
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>>749762280
>What if we made the most beautiful woman ever and put her in a bunch of sunset soft lighting scenes?
Based PA
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>>749762364
Newtype ghosts.
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>>749762364
The ace combat doesn't care if there is a ghost, or if it's ai. All that matters is where the sotoans/belkans/yuktonabians/etc are so that he can fire an infinite number of missiles at them.
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>>749762364
Literally just ghosts. AC8 has a spiritualism theme.
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I think I like 7's story more the cutscenes are less in the way and they fellated Trigger way more than Rex.

Rex never felt like he had his "oh shit that guy's the real deal!" moment
even till the end people are still going where's cope
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>>749762364
they landed, made a little grave, then left
are you retarded
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>>749762614
No they didn't.
Are you retarded think they'd just land on some random patch of dirt?
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>>749713083
BAZZOOOKAS
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>>749762583
>cutscenes less in the way.
Yeah I hadn't thought of this but I agree. I think I pinned the blame on the FPV but that's not it. If there were FPV cutscenes every few missions and they were longer or actually mattered I would be more into them, but as it stands it feels a little bloated with them.
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>>749762648
this lol, even in AC with infinite machine gun ammo and teleporting missiles, Jets still need tarmac
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>>749762583
People only started actually trusting Rex 2/3rds of the way through the game and your AWACS thinks you're not up for the challenge until you tell him otherwise. Up until then, most people think you're a fraud.
Stick with Trigger and you'll make it meanwhile starts after mission 7. You also tango with Mihaly, and ADF-10, a few times while Shadow 22 only sends his goons after you.

Also, Trigger's motif sounds way more triumphant than Wings.
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>>749762583
M20's 1v10 was Rex' "oh shit he's actually THAT good" moment, but there are hints as early as M3 when you engage the Shadows for the first time.
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>>749723954
Honestly I ended up liking Tasha more than Kate after playing the game, I was thinking she would be an annoying unrepentant retard with how she's clearly immature and looks like she dances on Tiktok but she was a reasonable character from beginning to end. Kate just didn't appear as much as I expected her to, and there wasn't really a chance to get to know her. Also, she has a tattoo on her back which is a massive redflag.
>>749726530
>I felt a weird brother-sister vibe going on with the two of them.
Yeah I felt the exact same way. Hard to imagine they'd have any romantic feelings.
>>749762135
>would've unironically have been much more popular/endearing if she just had non-dyed hair.
Yep. And no freckles.
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>>749762364
Ghosts. They tossed in the supernatural to contrast with AC3's technology and give you some insight on just how far Sotoa has fallen. Don't expect it to be acknowledged in the next game.
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Wish we had more missions where you're just let loose at some 50-100 Shadowniggers and jacked off over comms while you annihilate them. I wanted to fuck more aces up.
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>>749763005
That's far too late into the game I feel.
Even still, maybe it's just the way the dialogue is written, it just didin't feel like narratively impactful

I think a better outcome would've been DD trying to manufacture shit, but the moment you start outperforming his lies, he just goes wait.. holy shit

Like I feel like that should've been Rex's moment
eh.
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>>749762364
>ghosts are real
>the Sotoans are right about the Promised Land, they're kust also huge assholes
>Sotoan sheep are comically big because they're literally blessed by God
Does that answer your question?
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>>749763343
I guess they wanted to give some time to the "public realizes Wings is a fraud" arc before you manage to overturn that reputation.
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>>749757929
I thought she loved getting 30g maneuvers constantly shoved down her throat?
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>>749763475
I think a better start would be to have people catch up to Cope's lie at the beginning so when we first fly with him he tells us that people are catching up, and that our propaganda isn't working anymore
DD is still trying but cope see how this is going

and then he dies, and then we take over

and then people start with Wings of Theve more like Wings of SHIT thinking it's still cope flying

y'know, narratively it'd align with us, the player starting at the bottom and then bringing both morale and support and actual progress up as we play
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>>749760369
I played it after playing 2 and found it to be a massive step down. Everything felt slow, the not-DFM mechanic still felt broken, and I just didn't have any fun
even the music wasn't as good as 2's.
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>>749762305
It's what he would've wanted...
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>>749741471
LAGER LAGER LAGER
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>sotoans get to the promised land
>Decades of dead pilots start laughing at them for losing a 1001 v 15 fight
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>>749763190
>no freckles
What is wrong with you? Tasha should look as cute as possible!
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>>749762364
Actual paranormal stuff and it's a good thing.
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>>749763731
They say pilots who get downed by wings have their souls reaped, and will never see the promise land...
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>>749763607
>and then he dies, and then we take over

>and then people start with Wings of Theve more like Wings of SHIT thinking it's still cope flying
but this is what happens. The Sotoans are already talking shit about how Wings always turns tail and the Immortals are there calling you a fucking scrub if you don't get them to Theve's shoreline
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>>749763506
Prez sexo.
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>>749763787
Yeah but not like that, the narrative beat of "wait, Wing is a fake?" is only played when that bunker boomers broadcasted that thing
before that, it's played more like Wing is still kicking ass instead of "wait, wing is actually starting to kick ass?"

Even your wingmans barely react to you being significantly better than Cope, in fact, something that pissed me off later in the game was Kate and Tasha Comparing me to Cope flying, like DUDE, SHUT THE FUCK UP, IT'S MY TIME TO SHINE.
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>Cope was already dead before he even hit the water
looking at the windshield as he's getting submerged and man, Shadow 22 really fucked him up
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Next game should be Newtypes vs AI vs Governments vs Corporations
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>>749762405
Odd way to describe Jenkins...
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>>749763731
>Sotoans try to enter the promised land
>They have to beat the gatekeeper in aerial combat to determine if they are worthy otherwise they get sent to hell
>The gatekeeper is Cipher
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>>749764667
anon, if the gatekeeper was Cipher no one would be going to the promised land
just put them up against PJ.
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>>749764916
It would not be a matter of beating him but determining whether they are worthy
>inb4 over a thousand Sotoan souls try to fight Cipher at once and all lose
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>>749764149
Yeah, the windshield is proper fucked and you can hear him talking in the ghost/narrator tone right after the impact. He had no chance.
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>>749765147
this game sure seems to have a thing with dead people in still moving vehicles
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>>749763731
Maybe they could have done better if they sent their bombers in AFTER their fighters.
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>>749764401
ngl jenkins is pretty hot
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>jenkins mentions about talking to you later about the spy
>never happens
Did they cut out an entire segment of the game? Someone mentioned they might have wanted some walking around the carrier since it was scanned so well. Unironically was the thing it needed to bind the characters better, just make it optional, with the first being mandatory to let you know it exists (with skip for replays)
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Anybody got footage of moon 11 goind down?
I know she flies out looney tunes style, but it looked like there was a WSO in the backseat?

or was that the AI sphere thing.
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>>749765281
ai ball like mihaly had
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>>749765281
>>749765468
What anon said, except the ball was her way to fly the jet, instead of it being used to train off of her, which is a prelude of the coffins of the electro sphere era.
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>>749765281
>>749765468
The whole AI balls along with Enso wanting all your flight data makes me wonder if AC9 is about fighting all those coffin equipped AI aircraft with old jets cause everything new has been compromised?
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>torn between getting this or the new onimusha
>end up buying onimusha last night
>today
>find out one of the girls in AC8 has armpit hair
I'm such a fucking idiot anons. I'm a complete god damned retard. Dumbass fucking samurai game. FUCK
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>>749766176
that was an ai slop image you retard
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>>749766176
>Fell for the AI slop
FOOL!
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>>749766176
>>749766254
even said ai image aside, it's not like Onimusha over AC8 wasn't a terrible choice regardless.
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>>749766176
Retard
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>>749750149
Agreed, was not expecting that
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>>749766176
Solitary NOW
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>>749766176
AC8 is definitely the superior game IMO, but maybe Onimusha just had a terrible demo. Frankly I don't get the appeal for such a low interactivity "action" game like that that is so limited in design in every other way. But again could have been a bad demo. Even something like DMC5 lets you interact with the world. Shooters in the 90s left hit markers when your weapon hit the walls. Real basic shit like that.
Meanwhile AC8, a game I had little expectation of interactivity, allowed me to fly through unintended gaps, effectively land on enemy vehicles and use them to cover my assault on the enemy in front, and make flaming/smoking "holes" in buildings/the ground. Not to mention being able to feel/see/hear the terrain/clouds. Pretty neato. And the combat itself is about as deep as Onimusha. That is to say just enough to be exactly what it is.
But I haven't been a console gamer in a long time so my tolerance for "this is the one thing you can do and we won't let you be creative because our focus tests say you only care about checkboxes and slogans. We know you just want a mouth-agape sensory movie and not to experience anything unintended" is extremely low.
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>>749766176
I like Onimusha but AC8 is far better.
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>>749766176
Onimusha is a good game with generally fantastic boss fights and a great difficulty curve, but the game has some ridiculous filler just so it can hit a 20 hour run time. AC8 took me about 16-17 hours for my first run on Elite and I just felt like I had a better time because filler cannot really exist in Ace Combat.
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What would you say is the best mission in the game?
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>>749766773
>AC8 is definitely the superior game IMO, but maybe Onimusha just had a terrible demo. Frankly I don't get the appeal for such a low interactivity "action" game like that that is so limited in design in every other way. But again could have been a bad demo. Even something like DMC5 lets you interact with the world. Shooters in the 90s left hit markers when your weapon hit the walls. Real basic shit like that.
It's an actually horrendous demo because they didn't wanna spoil anything, it's literally the first zone in the game.
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>>749767376
3. or the 1000 bandits one.
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>>749767376
20 because your AWACS finally realizes you're the protagonist
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>>749767376
8, but that is a personal thing and it just hit a whole bunch of boxes for me.
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>>749757806
>>749757905
That seems kinda shitty, how do they expect you to keep up with faster planes?
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>>749767376
20
I'm a huge sucker for this type of shit
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>>749767534
I don't get why people like 28 so much. Outside of the Shadow fight most of the mission is boring as shit, just shooting bombers that don't do anything to you while you fly in a straight line. Maybe from a story perspective having everyone join in is cool but the gameplay is not great.
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>>749767376
15 is the coolest one but is a bit too rigid mechanically (you can get soft-locked at the middle checkpoint eg).
Otherwise 27.
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>>749767376
Expo City
It has:
>My wife Kate
>A target rich environment
>Nuggets to eat
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>>749767671
The story part is the main reason I'd say. It also maximises the number of enemy casualties, which is good and funny.
>>749767638
I think 8 is the best, mainly due to how it quickly raises the stakes.

I also think 25 is very good.
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>>749767376
8 for me
>horizon actually lights up when purple magic is fighting the land battleship
>chaotic as hell with good enemy variety
>howitzer barrage looks cool as fuck since it's night time and you can spot them from far away

Not to mention the music
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>>749767376
20 or one of the ground support missions after it.
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>>749727143
That's Ace Combat 3 anon.
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By mission 19 I'm shocked no country directly declared war on sotoa. Surprise nuclear strike is extremely warranted.
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>>749768728
AC3 isn't canon.
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>>749767518
But is it still somehow even more of a static world than Pragmata? How did they manage to make a game where you swing a sword that doesn't spark, scratch or gouge surfaces at the very least? Where you can "break the barrel" but only like 1 or two specifically designed barrels in a room, right next to a fence/wall/door/tree/etc thing that you clip right through completely.
Bafflingly non-game feeling game. A few steps removed form a Sony game. Same for Pragmata, even though I enjoyed it the devs seemingly did everything in their power to make me not want to like it. You may as well be on rails with how little the game let you do outside of the narrowly defined gameplay loop provided.
Maybe I'm spoiled being older and growing up with shit like Duke Nukem 3D where everything within reason was interactive, later Ultima Online which was an insane near simulation level sandbox that also happened to be a graphical MMO that felt as deep as a MUD, and the various permutations of exciting interactive experiences (READ: what vidya once was) that went as far physics based interactions. Hell these days the most basic point and click adventure game provides more autonomy and immersion than your average mainstream game like Onimusha/Pragmata. I HATED the demo for that reason. Combat was fine but everything else about it was insultingly barebones. Checkboxes and numbers going up don't do it for me. Story/cutscene is fine so long as the actual game lets me do more than smash badguy.
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I want a schizo mods that replaces all models to Cope
Cope as Shadow22
Cope as Tasha
Cope as Baxter in THAT scene
Cope in a wheelchair
Everyone is Cope
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>>749764667
I find it funny that no matter what version of Cipher they get judged by, the Soats are fucked regardless.
>Knight is pissed because the Soats kill civilians and parachuting pilots
>Mercenary also has disdain for them because they're shooting targets that they aren't even getting bonus pay to shoot at. Literally going beyond shooting the yellow squares and actually manual aiming at non-mission targets that AWACS didn't even put on your radar
>Soldier hates them for both reasons
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>>749766176
>Wanting Ace Combat 8 for a woman's armpit hair
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>>749768806
I see, yeah i can get why you didn't like Way of the Sword.
The game puts most of its focus on story and direct combat with enemies so the things that aren't that are pretty lacking in comparison.
The boss fights are probably the best in the Onimusha series botth narratively and gameplay-wise, but they're weirdly connected by a semi-open world that exists purely to pad out time and give you shit for the tacked on skill tree and upgrade system.
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what ever happened to the pixy actor?
Is he safe?
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>>749716849
Disgusting pallor. Did they just pluck her out of the sea?
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>>749770357
Died of cancer last year.
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>>749770518
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
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>>749733885
Game hard pivots right at the end to
>muh heckin evil corpo did it
again like 7
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>>749770759
It actually doesn't. From the very beginning, there's evidence that Enso Order is behind everything. It's the most telegraphed thing in the game, because the whole point of 8's plot is to directly lead to AC3.
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>>749770840
On the other hand, the Soats are so comically evil on their own that it's easy to forget Enso Order had anything to do with it.
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>>749770840
Honestly one of the biggest twists for me was, D.D. being a ride or die bro. He deserved to be the Strangereal's #1 streamer at the end.
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>>749771042
The whole "I'M REAL" part seemed cringe in the moment, but it makes sense when you think about it. The dude's entire life was fake and for the first time he was trying to promote something real and positive to change the world. He really deserved to have that meltdown and wanting to be acknowledged as an individual human being rather than another Enso puppet.
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>>749711428
Topkeke literally skullfucks you with his eyes the entire time Moon-11's drinking tea.
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>>749770759
The whole thing being enabled by General Ressources was widely speculated since the first trailer showed so many of their logos kek, everybody was expecting it
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>main character gets his own boss fight theme
How many games do this? I love killing children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn9cag6Qrcs
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>>749771234
Yeah, I also cringed at first until I heard the exhaustion in his voice. Thinking about it, basically everyone was against D.D. throughout the game, hell the endurance pretty much never really trusted him for most of the time he was onboard and people constantly doubted the story of wings. His plan finally working and uniting people across borders, triumphing over enzo, he deserves to act as cringe as he wants.
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>>749771574
>THAT GEMMA PILOT WAS 17 YEARS OLD AND 11 MONTHS
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>>749771684
Oh no!
Anyway, fox 2.
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>>749771574
>when that guitar kicks in
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>>749771574
>assigned callsign: Lindsey Clancy
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>>749771684
The age of conscription is a matter of interpretation in Sotoa.
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>>749771574
Rumbling is the weaker of the Rio Hamamoto tracks of AC8 desu
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>>749771574
>the music isn't for you, its for the Sotoan kids to here as you gun them down. you are their final boss.
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>>749771684
If a child comes at you with a gun what are you supposed to do.
Get shot?
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There is something soothing about an enemy that dies afraid.
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>>749772092
>If a child comes
UOH
>at you with a gun
Oh. Break her index and middle fingers and thumb, I guess.
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>>749772092
Ask any USA policeman in an urban youth area.
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>>749772145
Kinda, I wouldn't call it soothing.
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>>749772145
>>749772265
There is evil in all men, and sometimes it must be fed.



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