Why does Deadman Danny suck so much to play as?
more like deadname danny lol
>>749713761>4chan pick>the guy is cringe incarnate and says "safety first" during ultYou ruined it, fags
>>749713821kek
>>749713761you niggers said this shit about baba because nobody knew how to build her>>749713821this got me tho
Fairfax stocks rising, Jewess found dead in a backally.
>>7497138764chan pick is RATGOD
his kit is confusedhe feels like 2 different characters that were haphazardly slapped togetherevery build i've attempted on him has felt incredibly mediocre even when im aheadthe only times he feels good is when you get to lategame but GL with that>b-but you can proc toxic bullets/silencer easily!you know who else can do that? any other gun carry, and they aren't stapled to a gimmick.you can't rain death from above because his range is shortyou can't build sharpshooter to counter it because even with it his damage still sucksyou can't go full spirit because his scalings are all not goodyou can't glass cannon nuke people because he doesn't have the numbershis movespeed is slowhis airstrafing is slowhis air drag is highhis rocket jumps are clumsyhis gun is complete shiti don't think it would be that hard to fix him though. he needs:>some innate gun resist or higher health>divebomb to be unstoppable/shorter self-stun>divebomb heal on hit at rank 0, rank 2 instead of healing gives him reactive barrier shield on hit/miss>flamethrower to be a infinite toggle while he has heat or apply mark at rank 0 instead of rank 2>fading slow on missiles instead of on mark hit>charged direct hits innately apply fading slow>ultimate lets you grab someone and briefly carry them into a direction before doing the max altitude choke slam for interior fights
>>749714763I'm not a fan of emergency buffs a day after release when people still have no clue how to play the hero.
>>749713761bro what the fuck the characters in this game are DEI as FUCKwhat the fuck happened to steam
>>749713876>he doesn’t follow safety procedures while using an experimental jetpack
>>749713876Says the underage brown catnigger twitter migrant
I started playing when the werewolf and 5 other heroes came out, why is the game so confusing now? It feels kinda bloated even
>>749715172feature and objective bloat if I were to guess, the thing that made me quit Dota 2
>>749715172what
>>749713761It's strange that they gave him a shitty jetpack that you have to use like a retard to do damage.
Danny has been the most fun I've had with a flying hero in ages.
>>749714763I will say from my street brawl experience, dude can shit out strix salvos if handed a cooldown reduction item
>>749715229yes the objective of... tormentororrift. so confusing
>>749715705Kill yourself disingenuous redditor, nobody likes those out of place meme objectives and it's the reason you only play with demented browns or faggots such as yourself.
>>749715023He clearly needed buffs. Sick of this meme that people were gonna magically figure him out. He was irredeemable dogshit and anyone with any game sense or experience could see it.
>>749715705of course now that I have my timers tracker on my 2nd monitor>https://www.deadlocktimers.com/I no longer need to be confused. all I have to do now is follow this checklist of objectives that force our tiny tiny brains into acting at specific moments, that absolutely do not make the matches feel the same every single fucking time and that definitely do not eliminate the unpredictability and creativity of every match!
>>749713761His gimmick were he has to mark shit is literally holding him back. not to mention his gun is slow and requires leading, I dunno what icenigger was thinking when he made him because you DONT make a singlefire projectile character weapon hit like a wet noodle.
>>749715846holy seethe
Why do these games need 100+ characters, it's just bloatslop.You just need a handful of simple archetypes, freeze, bleed, poison, minion, FAST etc.Less characters, more emphasis on builds and items.
>>749717768characters are just genders and trannies need trans identities.
>>749717929>>749717768you people have the dumbest takes known to mankind.
WE ARE BACK DANNY GODS
>>749717768I was thinking something similar, Overwatch released with just 21 and then balanced and added from there, Deadlock is now at 40+? Cramming in this many just during beta seems a bit wild
>>749715074>vtroonber
I don't care if he sucks, he is fun. It's like when Bebop was in the gutter from nerfs or when I play absolute meme shit like unkillable Viscous.
>>749720210They buffed himHes fucking strong now
>>749720287Haven't read notes yet, what did they buff?
>>749713761He is probably the best character to play imo. The worst character in the game is vendetta and none of the old characters feel good anymore except maybe abrams.
>>749720287nah not really, maybe harassing melee characters at the beginning but very useless end game.his death lines are funny though (because he's not actually dead)
>>749720779sorry meant vindicta
>>749713761simp character that doesn't even have a penis and can't rape mcginnistroon coded.
>>749715172>>749715846imagine saying shit like this when earliest deadlock had 4 lanes and mandatory last hitting
>PvE mode a la Risk of Rain 2 is real (has an LRD/RoR Director, "loot" boxes)>unreleased haunts (dock ropes, oscar the grouch, and giant demon pigeon)>maximum map size for Source 2 games doubled>bull walker>CADENCE IS REAL (female Ixian, seductive songstress, has charm ability)>Wardrobe (first skin set might be a time appropriate NYC catalogue, Rem wears a yellow raincoat)>Hideout customization (mini games, juke box, bar, and more all placed a la animal crossing)>Slork rumors are back>Tier 4 spell upgrades (Kelvin can stop time with his ult) probably for PvE>taunts and facial animation support>play of the game/character intro animations>workshop/arcade mode/custom game support>valve is firing on all cylinders it seems likeThis is all the datamined and leaked shit by the waalyAt least two if these will be in the next major update
>>749721347>SLORK mentioned
Dota 2 won
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>749721347Anywhere that compiles all this ?>valve is firing on all cylinders it seems likesomehow the most nothingburger statement of all time>>749721529real?
>>749721574It's from a Tyler Mcnigger video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUv_w3ZHJ-wNo speculation it's purely all datamined and corroborated by other modders/dataminers. Don't bother watching it, the summary already covers most of it.
>>749721051Deadlock Classic when?
>>749721408fucking magnificent
This game just refuses to play on Arch. Mina ult crashes my game and I have to play on 50% render quality
this games fun, i only play street brawl and i've never played a shooter on pc with kbm before so its a learning curve. i like rat king
>>749721748works on my machine (cachyos)
>>749721646Thanks bröther
>>749713876>saying "Safety first" while you're grabbing somebody to kamikaze divebomb them into the groundDude I think you might be too autistic to understand irony.
>DEIlock
>>749721347>PvE mode a la Risk of Rain 2 is real (has an LRD/RoR Director, "loot" boxes)Fucking hell this would make the game playable. I hate moba
TESTING THIS NEW FAIRFAX™ JETPACK WHILE SURVIVING!
>>749714903I agree his gun needs more range.Why don't you try getting the long range items?
>>749721529Thats fucked. Good ideas.
>>749713876should he be screaming "to the depths of hell with you, flesh and bones!!!!!" or something?
how hard is mirage, i love mystical arab characters
>>749722480Don't bother playing him until they completely rework his kit. Quite possibly the most boring character to play in the game right now and very very weak in random lobbies.
>>749722527I believe he only needs a new 1, the rest of his kit is somewhat interesting but his 1 is the most boring nothingburger ability in the entire game and that's saying something, he needs something more fun to use
>>749722527>>749722616he needs sf6 rashid's level 2
>>749722480Pro play only character.
>>749713761Daniel, from Deadlock
>>749715023Baba was out for awhile and it was blatantly obvious Danny stats were undertuned.
>>749722527>>749722616Scarabs can be kinda funny in spirit builds.
>>749713876>safety is redditAre you a chink or a poo?
>>749722616Even his mark is not very interactive. It's delayed damage and too easily countered by dispel or spellbreaker (even if spellbreaker sucks major dick right now).
>>749721347>unreleased hauntsIsn't there also that ancient image of some spire looking monster on top of a building?
>>749722480Easy if you like spamming one ability. Medium if you like to have mobility powers to use.Hard if you want to build up max marks without getting bored.
>>749722480genuinely a bottom 5 difficulty character, complete nigger in lane transition to a complete nigger in side lane transition to a useless nigger in teamfights because you are a mirage player meaning you are a retarded nigger
Someone called Paige rapebait for some reason
>>749713761Wants to be Spamton but has non of the sauce.
>>749722527>>749722616For how cool he is conceptually and how much potential he has, his kit really is pretty fucking lame and boring. There are some old characters that could do with some spicing up. Not to become full AoEslop characters, but somebody like Mirage obviously has a less cohesive and fun arsenal than somebody like Bebop or Abrams. There's a lot you can do with sand genie.His ult is a weird point for me because it has potential to be quite strong and it's unique and neat, but I feel like the obvious ult for him is opening the bottle and letting Nashala just enact TND on the enemy team.
should've just ported soldier from tf2this phara jetpack hovering is lame as fuck
>>749713761>emergency buffedI guess we'll see if it did anything. Hope it does because he's crazy fun. He probably still gets stunned and killed every fight thoughbalance aside, all the new characters have been fun and I actually want to play them.
>>749724174His current ult could probably just be a T4 active item with some kind of downside like 4s silence on succesful teleport.
>>749724174>>749724640DESU I think Mirage just needs some vfx updates to make his skills "feel" good
>>749724712You can't make the "THROWING SCARABS!" that barely tickles the enemy and does nothing else feel good with just some vfx updates
>>749724712He's getting a model rework/touchup anyway like most of the old cast, it lacks details and there's obvious clipping issues even on his selection portrait.
>>749724174Global TP is an amazing ability but I hate using it in this game because I don't have a global camera to get a good look at whatever bullshit I'm throwing myself into.
>>749724835Nah it just needs a proper chunky effect that actually shows that the enemy deals less damage.
>>749721529Oh god please no brood
>>749721529MOTHERCOMES
Techies when?
>>749725208In spirit, he's already in the game: kidnap Doorman.
>not a single rat king nerf
>call me team trash>get comm banned for a weekgay game
>>749725337they need to buff kelvin
>>749725407>Opponents get to act like niggers and get to dunk on you when they're winning>If you say anything you're the bad guyI HATE THIS GAME
>call him chessnigger>dont get comm banned
>>749717768>>749718920yeah deadlock is bad that's why nobody plays it and it's also critically panned
>>749725337wait why is viscous struggling?i havent played in a while
>>749721529man valve could really cook with the web stuff in 3d environments
>>749725337I think they aren't sure what to nerf about him, he's supposed to be a tanky gun guy but his tankiness needs to scale more through items or something. I guess 3 scaling and his 1 bounces having auto-aim should be changed at least
How do fuck do i use billy hen everyone fucking parry now? Is there a non full meele build?
>>749725823you only do light melee and when you walk up to your enemy, melee only after they waste their parry (which they will, when you walk next to them)
>>749725823Are you doing heavies?Just mix in one or two lights to top your ammo off, eventually they'll waste their parry.
>>749725823Billy still has the fastest light melee in the game. The point is to get in their face, spam bullets and do unpredictable melees until they fail a parry then you go full swinging.
>>749725782I think his pestments is the real problem. He builds tank and gun but then gets insane extra survivability from it. it doesn't matter if he has 75% efficiency from lifesteal, he never really loses enough HP to need it. You ignore him, you die. You focus him, everyone else kills you. You're winning a teamfight when he's not there, he shows up and instantly wins it back. Just a constant and persistent threat that needs 3+ people to even be able to kill him
>>749725721They already tried to with Trapper.
>>749723516She has no mobility, low base hp, and a naive personality, rapebait sounds about right.>>749725704They nerfed him like 3 patches in a row a while ago, he just slowly fell in winrate.
>Wrecker -> DannyAny other completely redone hero labs characters?>inb4 grasping at strawsWrecker wins from hero labs are now counted as Danny wins.
>>749725337Why the fuck did they nerf Warden? His flask flies weird and people don't die as fast as they used to.
Whats the best hero if I enjoy supporting, buffing without having to full damage every single time?
>>749725823You bait the parry with unpredictable light melee then you start throwing haymakers after they wasted it, never heavy melee someone with their parry up
>>749726798rem or paige but with rem you have to actually play a bit differently (sinners, learn to use tunnels) and move around the map a lot more
>Want to make use of the map and push into key objectives>No one defends our own objectives and BROOOLS in Blue lane>Spam pinging and voice chat does nothingMan, I love playing characters that take advantage of pushed lanes, but I can't be doing that if I have to lane janny the side lanes constantly.
>>749726468wtf I kind of liked wrecker's kit, especially his 1.One of the dataminers said boho got a new skill, so that means that maybe celeste only stole her ult and boho might be implemented in the future.
>>749726468Pretty sure Danny also has origins from Airheart.
There's only one Deadman as far as I'm concerned. He's the guy with the purest strikes in the business.
fuck grave's ultbraindead mechanic
>>749714903It is not actually asynergetic, play him a few times and you will notice he has a pretty obvious gameplay loop>Hover in air, hit them with your 1 and try to empty your mag>once someone starts going low, intentionally overcharge your 2, dive them and hit an ult>use your 3 to finish the job and vent your heat while your gun is reloading. Your 3 ends with knocking you away, conviniently putting you in position to restart your basic dps loop
>>749728438I agree with this, his kit feels very disjointed when reading the abilities but when you actually get to play him you find out that it flows surprisingly well
>>749713761I love how he plays, it's just his numbers were a bit lowHis ult is fun as fuck and reminds me of that same move you could do in Spiderman 2 for the PS2
>>749721529leaks on 4chink>FUCKING BROODMOTHER>some dude named sky runner
Is ranked unbalanced at brick rank?
>>749730740Skyrunner has been known about for a long time, long enough that I was worried they scrapped him.I think his gimmick is he's a construction worker who swing around buildings like Spiderman using tethers.
>>749713761Because I can’t get on the FUCKING ZIPLINE
>>749721529At this point I kinda just want to see them add the TF2 cast to the game, I don't even think that they would stand out that much in comparison to the rest of the cast as long as they get art reworks so that they fit better with deadlocks art style.As for abilities, they could literally just reuse their most gimmicky weapons for that and balance them accordingly
>>749713821Deadman Tranny
>>749726798There's no purely supportive character in the game yet, all the supports are soft supports, since Paige is a borderline poke hero and Rem is a weirdo that's suited towards stealing shit from the enemies, creating good wave states and teamfighting on the side
>>749725782His 1 hits too much. His 2 has bullet shred and he builds like two imbues and the rats bite hit for a fcking much and you need to waste stamina to get it off. His 3 scales off him and his 4 is an AOE nuke area denialHis kit does too much and scales too good with his base items. A numbers nerf across the board would probably be good.Rat king is one of the few heroes im confident that even If I lose that match, I would still get shit done no matter how much behind my team is. He's just too good.
>>749731717And that's a good thing, full supports always attracts mouthbreathers that don't want to play the game and just want to get carried while flirting on discord.With deadlock supports you have to actually play the game and they even have carry potential, you are expected to pull your own weight
>>749713761His jetpack is way too weak and limited
People barely play these new heroes, it’s hilarious. I haven’t seen Rat King get picked in like 6 days.I expect the last 2 to be even worse, especially the stupid Asian artist that doesn’t fit in New York.
>>749714763LOL the only thing making these new heroes good is the ridiculous damage they put out.
>>749714903you have to go all gun dmg any spirit scaling is a joke.
>>749714903its an extremely shitty pharah
>>749733023How the fuck haven't you seen the highest pickrate+highest winrate hero in the game for 6 days? Are you in elo heaven or did you just play a single game in a week and got lucky?
>>749717768braindead comment, just go play overwatch or some shitty fps
>>749718920then play overwatch?
>>749733193>winrate>using data thats extremely limited >LITERALLY LISTED IN BIG LETTERS . Win rates may appear unusual due to limit match data.always stupid dumb faggots replies
>>749733023Lying faggot.Rat King is in every fucking match I play.
>>749713876Agree. He should go>YOUR IZZAT SHALL BE MINE
>>749733512Well that extremely limited and unreliable data matches my experience to a T because that faggot is in every fucking game and I wish I got your games instead
>>749715023They obv had these numbers in mind already but just wanted to see if their original calcs were wrong (as they often are)
>>749722527>>749722480He used to be a fun surprise nuker with his stacks but now he's a boring brawler with awkward kit
Danny is fun now.
anyone needs an invite?
>>749713761>
>MOBAslop
Danny might be my faborite takenon Pharah bros.The suicide bomb completes him.
>>749723916And you want to be a woman but have none of the appropriate genitals
>>749738953Yeah the keep away stay far away shit is why Pharah and even the flyers in Rivals are annoying as hell.
every single game is rat king on the enemy team. The game right now is even more insufferable to play when wraith was absurdly broken at the end of the last major update.
Danny is insane fucking fun.The absolute visceral joy I feel when dunking a low HP enemy is amazing
>>749741857Dive bombing genuinely never gets old.
>danny can buy spirit shredder>can't upgrade it to spirit rendwhat is this anti fairfax slander
>>749714903Get Toxic Bullets, I can't stress this enough, his flamethrower builds up any "On bullet build up" effect almost instantly, so Slowing Bullets, Toxic Bullets, Inhibitor, Silencer are golden on him and since Toxic is spirit damage, it triggers the item that adds bullet resist down on spirit damage so even if you can't open with Strix missiles, you'll have the debuff on your target. Express Shot is also extremely good, same with Greater Expansion with also increases the AoE of his charged shot.Your usual approach should be Strix -> Charged Shot -> Flamethrower -> Charged Shot -> Chimera -> Ult.
>>749721529My BROOD needs FOOD!
>>749714763This does nothing to actually nerf Baba btw, these might as well be cosmetic changes. Her threads stealing spirit for nearly a minute needs to go.As usual, Icefrog does absolutely nothing to address the real problem with a character and just dances around the issue because he's a fucking retard who thinks he is god's gift to game design.
>>749741857>divebomb Silver as she transforms>grab her ass and waste her Ult>and now I do damageDanny is fun, just a few simple buffs and he's golden.
>>749725704Nonstop nerfs to every single part of his kit, puddle punch is a meme now, all you can do is spam splatter and cube, ball mode sucks.
>>749743972>she keeps the stolen spirit even when dispelled>silence does nothing because she can just melee stomp>building spirit res is worthless because she steals your spirit power
>>749726538Because he fulfills several roles in the game that Valve doesn't want>Viable gun build>Anti-movement mechanics with flask and cage>WhiteThose three things are all a big no-no in Deadlock, as the only thing you are allowed to do is spam spirit damage everywhere while abusing movement bugs and being a DEI hire.
>>749744184>Build gun against Baba>She just buys plated armor and bullet resist and now has 5k hp and is still lifestealing and regenerating several hundred HP per second via Radiant Regen and Spirit Snatch + life stealDon't forget that her ult goes through stuff like disjoints via quantum entanglement/mina bat form.Baba is a genuinely broken as fuck design.
>>749741365Wraith is still broken. Last few games were decided by whoever has Wraith on their team, no matter how shitty the rest of her team plays or how pro the opposition plays.
>>749744341>if you parry her heavy stomp with legs active she doesn't get stunned. Just another absolute fucking retard horseshit ability.
>>749744204>spam spirit damage everywhereI'm fucking tempted to do an ult build just for the hell of it now.
>>749744402>Wraith is still broken.Not according to Metro, who onetricked Wraith to get into Eternus, twice
>>749744630His ult is fucking awful though. Warden's entire design got powercrept AND nerfed. It's flat out inferior to just Victor killing himself.
>>749744437It only stuns if you parry her light which comes out so fast after the stomp that you have to predict it or you will not land the parry... or she can simply never ever use a light melee and continue to spam stomps which lock you in place even if you parry it and then you get raped by all the AoE slop or a Haze or Wraith nearby.
>>749744662>retarded nigger says
>>749725337This is a very vindicating list>Seven never leaving top 3 heroes in the game>le wholesome retard characters paige and graves busted as fuck>Lash high because 60% of the roster simply can't interact with him>Mirage being dogshit probably due to every single build pretending that building anything but farm items is a good idea>Calico, Paradox, Pocket, Mina, and Silver are actual weights around your team's throat no matter how much people pretend that they're good if you're good
>>749713876>4chan pick>corporate shill character
>>749721529>broodmother instead of trapperGoddamn it, I liked Trapper's backstory.
>>749713876>childish cat + emoji reaction image>obnoxious opinion and behaviorkys!
is there a cheat where you know BEFORE THE ANIMATION HAS EVEN FUCKING STARTED that I pressed light attack. I get light attack parried one hundred fucking percent.
>>749746554I had that happen earlier today too, I've known auto parry exists but not sure if it ever reacted to lights.
>>749745350better than the reddit pick
>>749715846stick to VRchat and overwatch timmy
I'm gonna leave this rem here.he has 1600 unstored souls, don't do anything to him while i'm gone, ya hear?
>>749748604
>>749748604>rape
>>749749986Fucked up, anon
>>749749986ANON WATCH OUT THAT PILLOW HAS A NUKE IN I
>>749741857>low HPThe calculation is probably VERY fucked right now, I just had a Danny kill me by removing 853 out of my 1193 hp from his ult alone in lane so 70% of my life.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
.
>>749713761>skull with a moustachetasteless tripe
>>749750367I had one deal a whopping 1800 of my 2500 HP earlier
>>749750712Yes anon, 4chan has a bot problem that mods refuse to fix because it benefits them.
Actually completely fucking done and sick of fighting rat king.
>3 games with deadname tranny in my team>enemy team has rat king/baba/solomon>lose all of themThis hero is dogshit unironically, even after the buffs.
>>749721748should have bought AMD
>>749751528absolutely FUCKIGN SICK OF IT
LISTEN UP CRUMBUMSYOUR KING IS HERE
>>749751528Rat king ult is essentially dynamo ult if it lasted a minute and extended 25 meters
>>749752405You can walk away from it
>He hasn't ordered a Chimera Mk1 yet
>>749752405more like 50>>749752568>walk away from the ult that sprints at you twice as fast as any hero>that doesn't go on cooldown if you interrupt the cast animation>that instantly wins any teamfight the second its used
>>749753020You disengage after he plants the flag
>>749753020My dude you are not disabled in the flag radius turn 360 and walk away. What is this shizo comparison to black hole?
>>749753071>>749753150>get knocked up>slowed>rat debuff>having to disengage debuffed, slow and being chased by entire teamwow having to instantly lose and run away from every single fight is such a good design.
>>749753307yeah it sucks. If only you and your team also had abilities and items you could use
>>749713821deadname:danny, new name daniella
>>749751565yeah, you can safely bet team that has tranny in it loses
>>749753307I don't know what fucking microplastic elo you are in that your entire team spills spaghetti on a floor over 40% slow.
>>749753071Ah yes disengage from the ult that>doubles moves speed for the enemies>halves your move speed>knocks you up for the equivalent time as a dynamo stomp
We really trying to downplay Rat King ult like it isn't one of the most obnoxious and braindead ults in the game?>Just don't fight/disengage when he uses itOkay let's just disengage every single time he slams it on a map objectives. We don't need to win rift fights or defend walkers anyway. Don't worry about mid boss either while he's running in circles inside the pit for ten seconds before he even slams it down.
it genuinely fucking pisses me off how they can release characters like this. I can kinda understand releasing a character super OP to make people want to play them, even though i disagree heavily. But releasing a character in such a miserable, sorry state? this proves beyond a shadow of a dobut these tranny developers dont even play the game, and have no fucking idea how anything works
>>749753803Welcome to the Deadlock Early Development Build!You are invited to help us test and give feedback on how the game plays. It is critical to not share any information about the game with anyone, as it's still in an early phase and we are not ready to talk about it or show it yet.
new player here, i mostly been playing rat king in street brawl but this game is so fun. i know i'll probably hate it if i played standard, so i won't
>>749753803it's literally a playtest, anon
>>749753803he actually released super weakthen got overbuffed overnight
>>749753782Massive AoE Damage reduction will always be a pain in the ass to fight around, they are like barriers without limit.
>>749754107I think everyone should play at least 3 standard games before writing it off completely.
whats this guys deal
>>749754585much needed divorce (but unable too)
>>749721529A wall climb gimmick would be neat, but it would probably be really clunky to implement in a thrid person shooter like this.
>>749754585I really want the Sinclair update so badly. I know they are waiting for near the full release to do away with the old models but like... come on, you have a character that does have a fun gimmick of two ghosts forever intertwined until they complete the ritual that switch between each other on death.Not to mention, I just want to hear the type of banter they do with the other characters, this game's Rubick (Spell stealer) deserves better.
>>749754030>>749754123this doenst change the fact the trannies developing the game have no idea how the game works. I played the character for 5 minutes and knew instantly it was pure dogshit. what do you faggots gain by sucking on yoshi's cock like this?
>>749726538The Warden meta was really retarded. If you didn't manage to end the game within 20 minutes you automatically lost because the hero scaled too well.That said the current hero batch is also really overtuned and I wish they gave them more realistic stats.
>>749754841i mean this earnestly; take a prozac
>>749744662Of course it's the game's fault Metro isn't winning games on Wraith and Warden. Otherwise he'd have to admit he's a retard who regularly donates 800+ soul bags to the enemy.
>>749754585Being a relic fossil who still has voice lines about 4 lanes
>>749744662more or less accurate list. Rat and granny are not that broken, rem is B tier. Shiv is at most B tier. Infernus is C tier. Wraith is S tier. Haze is S tier. Silver is C tier. Billy is A tier. Dynamo is A tier. Warden is B tier
>>749754585El Great Divorcio just wants to null the extra dimensional marriage.
>>749754585jewish demoralization psyop trying to destroy family values
>>749754935your reasonable response kinda disarmed me, but even then it hurts me deeply that this new update completely ruined my gaming experience due to the developers incompetence
heroes I like to play>abrams (new focus)>billy>celeste>infernus>geist (not played for a long time)>mina (terrible on her)>venator (terrible on him)>vyper (tailjob wife)>yamatoAnyone got any suggestions at who's actually good vs rat king & baba? I will not be playing graves. too israeli.
>>749755535i dont think anything is particularly good against rat king. He is just very boring and braindead character overall
>>749755535Nothing is good against rat king and baba. Baba removes all spirit characters on the enemy team and Rat King just cannot be killed unless the player is bad.
>>749755535Rat King genuinely has no hard counter characters. Every single other Deadlock tank is a drain tank of some kind and is hard countered by m1ggers with antiheal like cripping headshot/inhibitor, but not the Rat, who can just shield yo shit and when you do break his shield it's already gone off cooldown
>>749746508there has not once ever been an intelligent post attached to a cat reaction image on this site
>>749755797>>749755969>>749756028Cool so every single fucking game with him on the enemy team where I want to kill myself was justified.
"CRUMBUMS could be here" he thought. "I've never been to the topside before. There could be CRUMBUMS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his furry chest. "I HATE CRUMBUMS" he thought. Tetanus reverberated his entire arsenal, making it pulsate even as the rat swarm circulated through his powerful thick fur and washed away his (merited) fear of majorities after dark. "In a royal pestment, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>749756095Well yeah he's braindead easy to play since quite literally all you have to do is press all your buttons since the rats and grenade auto-target enemies and his ult is the size of an entire lane.
why do deadlock players act like the game isnt in alpha
>>749756095is you are above raven rank, game its in one of its worst states ever. I have come to accept that, only victory is surpassing your addiction and stop playing until a new update changes things
>>749755526The devs have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are clueless when it comes to game balance. They nerfed sinclair into the ground instead of dealing with actual problem characters like Baba, Celeste, Paige, and Wraith.
>>749731426they should add Merasmus
>>749756240Because the game hasn't been in alpha since it leaked in 2024. This is a beta/early access at absolute most.
>>749721529I'm going to turn this spider into a broodmother and have her make a film about it
How do people like this game I will never understand.Even playing with bots it is a clusterfuck of mechanics>need to last hit>then the last hit actually releases a soul that you need to hit>enemy can deny that soul>rather than have clear cut items that have a variable abilities you're buying cards>also the shop isn't as easy to browse, occupies the entire screen and basically you just build whatever is recommended to you>you can dash>dash jump>you can slide>easy enough>oh also slide gives you infinite ammo>oh also you can combo slides so you can basically shoot forever>there's also melee attacks>and melee parry>by the way this is a MOBA actually>and you can go jungle>and catch the flag>and king of the hill>and there's not-Roshan>and if you kill the enemy t2 towers you unlock more inventory>also souls can be dropped and you carry them around>and your four abilities gain random traits rather than level predictably>there's ziplines that expand and retract based on your minions>you can go above buildings but get zapped if you do>crates hold random upgrades/soulsAnd that's not even all, how do you enjoy this?It's like I'm playing 10 different games at the same time, even Dota isn't such a clusterfuck.The entire game is as wide as the ocean and as deep as a puddle, just because you have 20 different objectives doesn't mean the gameplay is deep.I've re-tried since /v/ keep talking about it but man, it's still just as tedious, not even judging you if you like it I just have no clue why you like it.
>>749756341this is the last remaining cope yoshi fags have left, they will use this against any and all criticism of the incompetent devs, and keep repeating this until the end of time
>>749756730>need to last hitstopped reading there
>>749721529>none may spy the spider!>StReTchING my LEeeeGS>pull my weeeb over yur eyes
>>749756730this post is an AI bot
Bruh this game is cooked
>>749756730bot post
>>749756935anon sorry to say this but you got baited
>>749756935>No trans flag reactionsThat's how you know this is fake
>>749756935that's thankfully fake, but the amount of tranny flag reactions on that discord is baffling
>>749757460Also, duplicate reactions.
>>749757410>>749757460>>749757535You realize Pocket is a they/them non-binary right? It's not too far fetched that Violet is trans
>>749757692Why would you need to fake a screenshot?
>>749757692yeah I know nuvalve is trash. still, that post is fake
>>749757692>Man makes up scenario and gets mad about it
>>749757692Why are you a dishonest faggot posting fake screenshots?
>>749757692Your life is spamming threads on 4chan. Get a fucking grip you subhuman nigger.
>>749756754Yeah I mean, I am extremely critical of the game, it has a ton of bad mechanics. Icefrog is not a competent game dev, he knows how to make bad and addicting games and that's about it.Many of these bad game design choices are listed by another anon here >>749756730Last hitting is an awful mechanic btw and it's even worse in a game where some characters have lightspeed fast projectiles and some have bullets you can practically outrun.
>just realised that using dash when using the jetpack as Danny both uses a stamina bar AND adds to your heat barI know he just got a buff but come on that's bullshit to the point of not even making sense. He should either by using his jetpack to dash through the air or using the magical stamina power everyone has. Not both at the same time. His mid-air dash animation doesn't even imply its the jetpack pushing him.Inb4 "it's fair because he gets to mid-air dash many times". At the very least make it a rule that it only adds to the jetpack heat if he tries to break the normal limit.
>>749757692
>>749757692>pocket is non-binaryWhere does this meme even come from? McGinnis calls him a dude
>>749757954You don't have to last hit you blithering idiot, securing only matters if the enemy is denying.
so which mods would you recommend?personally, i have a bias towards like anthrofication so i have to bias towards stuff like bat mina
>>749758125They/them pronouns, inb4 the usual cope that doesn't make sense since they/them are even used when referring to him as an individual in a context where his identity isn't hidden. Just call Valve faggots like the rest of us.
>>749757957Dashing adding heat is a non-issue because it's only 5% and he wants to overheat anyway so he can suicide bomb people. If you're accidentally overheating from air dashing that's a skill issue.
>>749758418>non-issue>skill-issueYou contradicted yourself.
>>749758194You actually do need to last hit the soul orbs you dumbass, and it is not fun to do at all.
>>749725337This chart has to be all games, with no rank filter. Graves is not that strong and does not get picked that much in Oracle+. Her winrate comes from low rank players unable to look at their minimap. She gets stomped by pretty much the entire roster.
>>749758194>you don't have to do this except for when you do
>>749713761How about they finalize the artstyle and look of the game before adding more shit to it?
>>749758481Ad hominem
>>749756906>>749756946>not even judging you for liking this shit I just don't get it>OMG BOT POST AI POST NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY DISLIKE WHAT I LIKEYou are truly the blackest of niggers.
>>749758576Yes you retarded faggot, now stop trying to talk about a game you don't know the basic mechanics of.
>>749758580No you don't get it we have to leave Calico, Sinclair, and Vyper with utterly horrendous models for another year while also adding more powercrept bullshit characters like Celeste, Baba, and Rat King.
>>749722145CRASHING THE CHIMERA, WITH NO SURVIOR
>>749758587No it very much dismantles the point you're trying to make.
>>749758580Did you even look at the new map or have you already forgotten what the previous one looked like?
>>749758606You're retarded and getting basic information wrong, stop being a dunning-kruger and fuck off.
>>749758660NTA, but the new map is nice looking, although they seem to have lowered the max height of the map a bit and the sheer amount of cover makes fighting vindicta and GT really gay.
>>749737643Yes
>>749758623>Yes So you agree that you do have to secure souls?
>>749754887But is it really not possible to keep him still the very least playable? I think I saw him once in the last 50 games. Or twice?
>>749756310He’s one of the patrons, the other is Tom Jones
>>749737643Lowry as a new hero.
>>749715023Getting a clue wasn't going to save 27% winrate
>>749756310What pokemon names does he have tattoo'd on the back?
>>749758773You can shoot the souls to secure half of the bounty if you know someone is trying to deny it, at no point does last hitting the creep matter and 99% of souls don't need to be secured unless the opponent is intent on denying them, and players typically do not spend too much time on denying since it's more important to harass.
>>749758580They, like all moba developers, trapped themselves in the cycle of having new heroes be the sole reason anyone ever plays anymore, which means the actual development of the game as a whole is incredibly slow, balance will always be a shitshow, and the game will be immensely bloated with quantity over quality.Every single moba or hero shooter fell to this problem. Except maybe TF2, but they really got dangerously close when they went from adding cosmetics to weapons and items.A full release of Deadlock would have steamers/youtubers shilling it for a week at best, and player numbers would go right back down to where they are now.
>>749758647If I said "isn't a problem" instead of "non-issue" it would say the exact same thing except you wouldn't have this weird gotcha argument to try and dismantle my opinion.Learn to play around the 5% heat from dashing, you're aware it exists even I'd you think it's stupid.
>>749721529I hope it's realI love playing as big spiders
>>749759046>*if you think it's stupid
>>749759046There would still be a contradiction. It can't be a skill-issue if the thing isn't a problem to begin with. But yeah thanks for wording it in a way that particularly drew attention to how daft you were being.
I love deadlock
when do you think theyre gonna do an official lan event
>no rat king on enemy team>actually have fun back & forth game>end up winning
>>749759401rat king is auto-win but at least not oppressive and obnoxious like baba
>>749759284Too late man, I've already depicted you as this guy and will not be responding anymore to your attempts to feel superior on 4chan. Have fun improving on Danny, he's a blast.
>>749758414>>749758125>>749757692how does this make sense, isnt his entire lore that he is in hiding?>Sir, we found your son, he is hiding in the canals, we realised he is the one because he insisted to be called "they" like some faggot, should he be taken dead or alive
>>749758694What am I getting wrong you absolute retard?I mean how stupid can you fucking be even if I was a fucking troll you'd still be feeding me, moron, may as well tell me why am I wrong instead of acting like a redditor "URMH YOU'RE IN A BAD FAITH" then fucking ignore me, nigger.
>>749759886You got basic information wrong, there is no "last hitting" and you get all souls automatically if you're in range unless they're denied. Don't worry your pretty little head over it since you'll never be at a rank where people actually try denying.
>>749758201Boosh blooms in your heart!https://gamebanana.com/mods/702901
>>749759995And if you don't last hit => you get denied => you actually need to last hit!
>>749759591Thanks for responding because there was something else that crossed my mind. If you're supposed to be getting heat then doesn't that conflict with using the flamethrower that's specifically designed to allow you to reduce the heat bar?
>>749759995Nigger how the fuck isn't there last hitting?Are the fucking souls that you need to hit LEAST THE ENEMY FUCKING HIT THEM AND DENY THEM not LAST HITTING?Do you know whatLASTHITeven means?You are the one giving the killing blow.If you don't kill, you don't get the fucking reward.How the fuck is that not in the game?
tfw wanna play but dont wanna dedicate 45 minutes to a single match
>>749760109Nope, you can't deny creeps so last hitting creeps isn't a thing. The soul is 50% of the bounty and you don't have to last hit that either except in the rare occasion that someone bothers to deny.I have no idea what the original post even means by cards, that line is a complete word salad.
i wish the game didn't have itemizationit just adds a stupid layer of complexity that just takes away from the game because you don't know if you suck at a character or your build was shit
>>749760187Killing blow doesn't matter at all, so there's no last hitting as a mechanic. You can't even hurt your own creeps to begin with.
>>749759610>isnt his entire lore that he is in hiding?Which especially doesn't make sense now it's revealed that the biggest fairfax dicksucker out there knows who he is.
>>749760284I guess the workaround is to just use the top build and see if you still suck.
>>749760242>>749760307>denying isn't a thing>except the enemy can deny you 50% of the bountyYou're actually stupid.>I have no idea what the original post even means by cards, that line is a complete word salad.It's cards, you're buying cards.It's a bunch of cards in the shop, the fuck do you mean "it's a word salad", it's cards with words on them, each having their own extra stats within.Do you not understand english?
>>749760453No one said denying isn't a thing, now you're arguing with a strawman because you don't know basic mechanics and got corrected.
>>749760401Even if you just follow a build or go default you still have to pick what items to get out of the list and when
>>749760508If denying is a thing then last hitting is a thing, you knuckle dragging moron.
>>749760601The original post literally split last hitting and securing the soul as separate things, last hitting creeps isn't a thing at all and securing souls is just specific counterplay to denying that you don't need to worry about 99% of the time.
>>749713761glorified devs from dota icefrog always sucked
>>749760716>you don't need to worry about denying 99% of the timeYou don't actually play this game, don't you?
>>749725241Fucking love doorman
>>749760534Any good build flat out tells you what to buy when. Some even just flat out tell you to L->R for a while. I think L->Ring to an extent is more effective than people want to admit since keeping your shop time to an absolute minimum is going to have its own advantages
>>749760842You played a bot match, got basic information wrong, and now you think you pull that kind of shitty argument? What a disingenuous faggot.
>>749756946Bot game retarded nigger subhuman
>>749760453>It's a bunch of cards in the shop, the fuck do you mean "it's a word salad", it's cards with words on them, each having their own extra stats within.Literally what is this bitch saying? Why are you calling the items "cards" and how do they differ from "clear cut items"?
>>749760926If I don't focus on last hits and denies for even 1 minute I have my teammate calling me out lol. And then you have the other team with 40 denies in the laning stats.
>>749727595Mmm badass
>>749761004How often people deny obviously depends on the skill level and lane matchups, doesn't change the fact that the original post is getting basic information wrong.
>old man playing chess>old woman sitting on a bench>were voted in before the>mustached skeleton with a jet pack and a flamethrower I am never playing this game, the playerbase is unbelievably gay.
I dunno if maxing Rat Swarm and going spirit is good on Rat King, but man do i like throwing rats at people
>>749713761jokes on you, after trying so much to get into the game and failing i finally found a hero that suits me
Tranny Harrow
>>749758201I use pic related alongside Big Cigar Dynamo
>>749761424Nurse Harrow would administer the anesthetic and, as the patient drifts off, she'd tell them that she's here to perform a lobotomy, not a tranny organ butchery. Alternatively, she'd simply harvest the patient's organs and leave them an empty husk. God, I hope she waxes poetic like Seven (but isn't a dev's pet in "owning" conversations)
>>749758201The mod that makes Abrams Sam from Sam and Max is cute
>>749761424>that manly facelmfao
>>749721529based, now give me Bane in Deadlock, I want to make two people's lives miserable
>>749717768>Why do these games need 100+ characters, it's just bloatslopIt's fun, and between roles and aesthetics, it almost guarantees there's at least one hero you'll like.>You just need a handful of simple archetypesYou're making the MvCI "we already have the Magneto function" argument. That's the hill you want to die on?>Less characters, more emphasis on builds and itemsBuilds are gay and items can only change a character so much - and do nothing for aesthetics.>>749721574>real?No.
>>749722480He's one of the easier to play characters, you need to have good aim though. You just need to shoot enemy till they die
>>749733267Overwatch suffers from same problem.
>>749717768The braindead masses need constant dopamine, flashing lights and NEW THING WOW NEW THING FOMOThat's literally all it is. It's nothing new.
>check a bit of Deathys teaching woolie vod>you can just feel Deathy losing his mind teaching this actual retard
>ITT people who don't like MOBA mechanics complain that the MOBA has MOBA mechanics>>749721347Why does this copypasta not mention Boho being back in the files, along with Druid, Fortuna and so on. Yeah, they might be pilfering abilities for other heroes, but Boho actually got a new ability: riding a broom. I don't think a non-witch is using that ability.And yet it mentions Slork when Slork isn't in the files, just two of his abilities are.
>>749764009>MOBA = 5000 charactersThere's a reason mobas are dead and bloat is it. You coping and pretending otherwise just makes it more likely the game will fail and die off.
Danny feels pretty good right now. Also look someone got comm banned live in my game (didn't even notice at the time)I feel like prepatch I would've tickled this Vinny at best
>>749756730It's Dota with less strategy/macrogame and more epic movement aim stuff for the ADHD people and zoomers. It's alright, not great.
>>749764081omega cope
>>749757954>Last hitting is an awful mechanic btwDota lives and dies by last hitting. I wouldn't mind if it was removed in Deadlock however
>>749762296He's a "never say never" nigga.
>>749762818
>>749721529I pull my web over your eyes
>>749764093>vindicta dumpsters dannyWhy were people saying this?
>>749764081You have room temperature IQ and no one cares what you think. Stop posting.
>>749764446>Why were people saying this?Umm she can counterspell Danny o algo because Troondictas will already have counterspell for knockdown (ignore that Danny's ult is way faster than the glacial knockdown animation)
>>749721529If they're going to keep pilfering heroes from Dota why not just do a crossover event and port some directly?Plenty of designs can fit the setting
>>749760345Of course Danny recognizes Arin when the dude is right fucking in front of him. Pocket's come out of hiding for the Ritual but he's been shacking up with Mo and Krill in the sewers for a while.
>>749722527Djinn's Mark looks hilariously fun when its powerful. It's just a shame the Mirage himself seems to be one of the weaker heroes or at the very least requires good aim which I don't have.
>>749717768>Why do these games need 100+ characters, it's just bloatslop.A lot of people misunderstand why this game needs a shitload of characters.Its so drafting/matchups is a bit more vague and has more depth to it along with adding more variation per match, its also a regular valve design decision when it comes to mobas.Its actually fairly easy to see how things will go and what you should play in persay league over dota.
>>749764093>hurdur X good when I'm ahead and my numbers bigmoba players are fucking retarded. Every match has somef ucking useless retard who relies on this logic.
>>749724174>but I feel like the obvious ult for him is opening the bottle and letting Nashala just enact TND on the enemy team.I had a most definitely bullshit joke theory that "The Djinn" is actually "The Gin" and that Mirage is just a guy with a drinking problem whose has personified his addiction to his favourite brand called "Nashala". Yeah I know it especially doesn't work because you can fucking see the Djinn inside the bottle but still it feels like the one thing that actually supports the theory that this supposed genie never explicitly comes out to help him.
>>749731426Demoman would be funny. I think there's a workable kit between grenades, stickies, and eyelander+charge. He's already one foot in the setting with his cursed eye socket and haunted sword. Question is whether he'd keep the launcher as his gun or get a more normal gun to fit in with the rest.
>>749764797>corporate Invoker>drug dealer Dark Willow>Spectre (Spectre)I'm cooming
>>749724174>I feel like the obvious ult for him is opening the bottle and letting Nashala just enact TND on the enemy teamWhy would the genie that has contracted Mirage to be her bodyguard come out to defend her bodyguard?The whole bodyguard deal makes him using the genie in attacks hard to work in, character-wise
>>749721529I hope this is real(I think at least Viscous and Yamato would have their shitty newer models if it was) because we need more fully non-humanoid freaks and giant spider who wants to make movies sounds greatwall crawl sounds kind of boring though. Not the fact that she has it, that's cool, but the fact that it's levelable and all it really does is buff a totally different ability. Just make wall crawl an innate passive and give her something elseher ult being usable on allies to heal them is also interesting
>>749723516am I crazy or do her boobs have jiggle physics
>>749725337Apollo is struggling? He's still disgusting imo
>>749756240Because it's the weakest fucking excuse at this point, and has been used by dickriders to shut down any criticism about the game.
>>749766283counter spell and slowing hex rape him
have most modders fixed their shit since the big map update? I have not bothered to check
I fear Danny is too fun bros...I legitimately cannot play another flying character anymore without them having a suicide bomb.
>>749767039Are you able to cast items in ult?
>>749759610>>749760345>>749764819They/them is a relic of when the game's development was under heavier DEI sway than it is now. Unfortunately for Valve they can't do anything about it now because that would mean taking a side, so status quo is best.>Remove pronouns: Alienate half of your playerbase and confirm the suspicions of the other half who will just say "based Valve" but will drop the game anyway for having been pozzed in the first pace.>Double down: Alienate half of your playerbase and the other half will start cheering and demanding more stuff that furthers their agenda, however none of them are really gamers and the game's playerbase peters out and dies.>Keep it as it is: Both sides will be stuck speculating whether it's true or a "le hidden identity" thing or would be liable for either of the two options above.
>>749766758It was never a good argument really. The whole claim when deadlock first leaked and people on here got access was that the game was already good. You shouldn't at that point be turning around and saying "IT'S JUST AN ALPHA" because then you're suddenly saying that the game isn't already good.
>>749764797That spider is not in the game files and just shamelessly throwing characters from other games into it would destroy its integrity. It's 1949 New York City half a century after an event brought the occult to the material plane. You can't just drop Venomancer in the game and call it a day.>>749765012>its also a regular valve design decision when it comes to mobasThey made one and only add one or two a year, so I don't know how it's "a regular Valve design decision."
>>749767301I got pretty early access in 2024 and it fucking sucked, but not for the reasons the secondary NPCs here like to spam. Now it's great and I'm hooked.
>>749765998Because the point of the genies is that they're outrageously powerful for up to 48 minutes at a time and then have to take a long nap in their bottle. She needs a bodyguard for the 99% of the time where she's not phenomenally powerful and is just a fragile bottle, not because Nashala can just get shot and die if she's not in her bottle. I feel like the ritual is a fine excuse for Nashala to go sicko mode a couple of times. So it being an ult in the sense of unleashing the power then having a long cooldown makes sense, because Mirage is still doing the vast majority of the work.That said, I don't mind his ult and I think never seeing or hearing Nashala is kind of funny. I just feel like if they were to rework Mirage a bit that his ult would be something they'd change. Especially since it's likely going to be weird to balance or get use out of in alternative modes like the PvE, or Street Brawl.
>>749767407This is a game with a cyberpunk samurai and a sea anemone that talks like a child, I don't think a big spider would be out of place.
>>749764819One of the ideas with Pocket was that he was supposedly taking up some kind of persona. The idea being that "they/them" was the personas pronouns to hide Arin's identity. There was even some suggestion that Pocket didn't look like he does to us to other people. I think there was an old poster showing some shadowy figure with frogs and there was suggestion that was how Pocket looked to everyone else. If this sounds like cope that's because it is.
>>749767656The cyberpunk samurai is quite literally is from an entirely different game though and is by all accounts out of place and is waiting for a remodel.
>>749767239Valve are Seattle liberals, they're proud to have an alphabet freak in their game, even though it makes absolutely no sense for the time period. History is bigoted after all and must be corrected!>>749767301It was never a good argument because if people unaffiliated with the developer can play it, it's not an alpha, it's a beta. I keep seeing people cry about when open beta is coming and that also doesn't make sense: it's in open beta right now. If there's no NDA, it's open. Deadlock's in the same state Dota 2 was in 2011-2013.
>>749767656I didn't say a giant spider wouldn't fit the game.
>>749767407>It's 1949 New York City half a century after an event brought the occult to the material planeYou have the Maelstrom that is literally the Chris-Chan Dimensional Merge going on though. You have plenty of dimension-hopping characters from Dota you could throw in and it'd fit.
>>749767843I want to see an Aghanim show up as an easter egg.
>>749717768>DOT, DOT, DOT summun, fun characterI'm glad you aren't a video game designer
>>749767843weaver would be a kino character
>>749721347Cadence...alive...If she genuinely has a charm ability, I'm going to build melee on her and just mollywop some poor sob that I hit with it
>>749767631Maybe they could have some sort of stance switch? I kinda like the idea that Mirage is unable to use magic at all (ie no spirit scalings or magical abilities) but the genie can give him power for a while, or something? His kit at the moment feels a little contrived, like what do scarabs, tornados and magical marks have to do with the fact he's a bodyguard? It feels like his kit was designed for "magical desert spirit" over "bodyguard for a genie"
Well, it finally happened.
>>749768386This has never happened to me because I have impulse control, sorry that you don't
>>749768386Are you American?
>>749768439I'm more baffled than anything. I have over 10,000 hours combined in TF2, Dota, and Deadlock. I've been calling people niggerfaggots for close to twenty years in Valve games. My Dota good boy point score bar is perfect and has remained perfect since they introduced it. I ask everyone, politely, to report the griefing AFK faggot, and suddenly I'm the bad guy.>>749768448How could you tell?
>>749768524Sorry that there were consequences for your behaviorAlso you sound like a noodle-armed dork, no offense bud
This game is such a visual diarrhea when it comes to ability fxi can never parry billy because onto of his stupid shit just knocking me around and shaking my camera, and god knows who else is casting/shooting at me, i have to then differentiate between his unga bunga animations that all look the same that I can't even see because his design is retarded and there's a million effects on him, for the split-second that I need to press parry
>>749768579MODSBAN THIS GUY FOR POST ABUSE
>>749768524>How could you tell?Because only Americans are sissies that report you for evil words and shit. Dota works the same way except no American plays that lmao. In my last game in EU everyone was talking about if Drifter was Jewish and instead of drinking blood he steals foreskins and nobody got reported, because the care bear theatre kid audience is in America.Now, if you were tilting and yelling at your team then it is deserved and get fucked.
>>749768682I could deal with EU if it weren't for the Russians and the bad ping. Unfortunately, the game is unplayable under those conditions. I was polite and communicative the entire game, it was another guy on my team that was freaking out because his lane partner was having a really bad game. He went AFK after 20 minutes, holding S in spawn so he didn't get an automatic abandon. My single message in allchat apparently is what got me banned. Guess I'll think twice next time.
>>749768386Half the fun of this game is saying or typing slurs that look like the character is saying it
>>749768590This is nothing compared to trying to parry Baba.
>>749764274yeah and dota sucks lol
>>749768914>parry her>it does nothing to herGlad that the retards developing the game finally realized the only way to make melee viable is to remove the ability to parry
>>749768590is there just one guy whos made it their lifes goal to shit on billys design every thread, or do people genuinely not like him?
>>749721529I would play the shit out of Deadlock if this was real
>>749769784do you have pet spoders
>>749769859No but not a lot of games let you play as one
>>749754585Takes bullets for others so they can continue to have absurd ults.
>>749767843>anything fits!No, they don't. Stop. Go play Dota if you want Dota heroes.
>>749770065Imagine if we had real proper Rubick spell steal instead of this training wheels magical negro couple
>>749770350I fucking wish man. I love playing Rubick and stealing all the fun abilities.
>>749770350>there was a future where Sinclair and NotMorphling would take 90% of all bugfix spacevgh
>>749724917Well you can look at an ally's perspective at any time with the F1-6 buttons
>>749758125Pocket is an alias that he took to hide better, I believe no dialogue implies that he thinks his is his true self and some characters straight up call him arin
>>749767843sounds kino until you realize they will pick some cancerous shit like pudge or zeus
muerta was probably some scrapped deadlock hero before ported to doturd
>>749713761fun fact at max boons his gun is still weaker than almost every single gun in the game at level 1. 105 damage at max charge at point blank. they were absolutely fucking terrified of letting a rocket hero exist
Valve are huge voiceline whores with their characters and it makes their games soulful but I REALLY hate that shop lines in Deadlock are said by the shopkeeper.>you have item specific lines>hero specific lines>but because it isn't the hero saying them you have no hero + item specific linesYou can't have soulful lines like buying Blink on Antimage or four talismans on OD.
>>749770964>you have no hero + item specific linesI'm possibly getting schizophrenia because I remember there was exactly one specific line like this, buying Magic Carpet on Mirage, about it being culturally insensitive or something.
>>749770918His gun's damage is definitely a joke, but it can proc on-hit items stupidly quickly>3 shots to proc Toxic Bullets>Effectively 2 shots with Express Shot>AoE so you could theoretically hit multiple people with itI know that theoretically is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but being able to apply stuff like that from outside of normal sightlines is pretty nastyThough in all honesty, his gun solely exists to detonate the marks from his 1
>>749770964>there will always be a divide between old heroes having conversations with each other, and new heroes only having conversations with new heroes, but never in between>sometimes new heroes will talk about (but not directly to) old heroes but never the opposite because any new heroes that weren't in development 2 years ago don't have voice lines written about themIt's a problem with every live service game but especially jarring for a valve game, TF2 had all of its voice lines on launch and it fits together, eventually we'll have games where doorman is repeating the same stock lines for every enemy hero, abrams becomes a literal who, and everyone still fucking knows lenny because lmao lenny gonna lenny lmao xd
>>749771205it is frustrating that literally everyone knows literally everyone, sure these are exceptional people but they come from all around the fucking world, why do they ALL know each other intimately>>749771197flamethrower ability also applies on-hit gun effects, it gets pretty nasty
>>749771205>sometimes new heroes will talk about (but not directly to) old heroes but never the opposite because any new heroes that weren't in development 2 years ago don't have voice lines written about themDeadlock is in a bit of a bind with this because all their conversations are two sided, every time they want to add a new character they'd have to call every single voice actor in the game to record their side.
>>749771205>>749771465Or its because its unfinished and getting VAs back into the studio is happening at random times? Danny and Pocket not having a conversation will end up changing, I don't even think Danny has one with McGinnis
>>749771565>I don't even think Danny has one with McGinnisWhich is so ironic considering he glazes her and Fairfax in 1/3 of his lines.
>>749771565Deadlock is in active development right now so having their voice actors on call is expected. Do you really think that when they want to add a hero in 2035 they'll have that wrestler that voices Abrams ready to record a conversation for them, along with a dozen "X character is on the bridge" lines? Multiply that for dozens of voice actors? It scales terribly.
>>749771523That's the issue. A lot of game companies will have recurring voice actors they contract regularly, so I'm sure it's not much harder than just calling them up to drop by the recording studio. Especially Valve tends to re-use a lot of their voice actors (several of the Dota2 heroes use the same VO, some of which go back as far as the original HL2). I think Deadman Danny is the same VO as Cave Johnson though I could be wrong, he really went for the same tone. That said, it's still a lot of effort, every new hero requires increasingly more voice lines to talk to the rest of the cast, and you run the risk of some of them moving out of country, retiring, or passing away (RIP rick may)
>>749771565not at all what i was talking about, i was simply piggybacking off of the other post, which was wrong to begin with as several new characters have convos with original characters. Do not treat me like a retard>>749771523hurts big time, the viscous lines released fucked up when CNS dropped, then they went back and re-recorded and fixed them, but now they actually sound too slow like viscous is hammered, i've noticed this with several VAs that their delivery or sound is audibly different from the originals. nothing to say of course about personality drift/flanderization
>>749771714Depends if Abrams and that character NEED to talk, like if they add a lore-relevant character or decide they have a funny idea for them.You people make it sound like all the old characters talk with ALL the other old characters, and new characters talk with ALL new characters. Everyone has a handful of people they talk to, with some having a little more.
>>749771565>I don't even think Danny has one with McGinnisShe has no conversations with any new heroes so far. Only call outs to ally deaths.
>>749771205>TF2 had all of its voice lines on launch and it fits togetherWhen will TF2fags understand that this game's structured like Dota 2 and not their precious little shooter? This is how Valve did voice shit with Dota. They're not doing this haphazardly.
>>749771945>This is how Valve did voice shit with Dota. They're not doing this haphazardly.Eh, sort of. 95% of hero meet lines in Dota are one sided conversations, so when you want to add a voice line whore hero like Dark Willow you can have one voice actor only and record hundreds and hundreds of redundant lines, like buying fucking Abyssal Blade and Butterfly on her. You don't have to call older voice actors to record lines about a new hero, and they don't do this. Deadlock will probably have the same issue, unless a conversation is really lore relevant and its absence will be weird, they'll give conversations to new heroes only with VAs they can readily contact.
>>749771465>flamethrower ability also applies on-hit gun effects, it gets pretty nastyThat's why I like building Toxic Bullets, Silencer, or Inhibitor on him (usually leaning towards Express + Toxic) It allows him to provide some pretty decent utility during his cooldown period with the flamethrower
>>749713761actually so fun to play, you can consider yourself a retard if you can't play danny.
I wish his base m1 rocket launcher actually chunked HP without needing marks
>>749772137>Eh, sort of. 95% of hero meet lines in Dota are one sided conversations, so when you want to add a voice line whore hero like Dark Willow you can have one voice actor only and record hundreds and hundreds of redundant linesThis applies to every one sided voiceline like killing lines too. So when a new hero is added in a decade they'll have a custom voiceline for killing Abrams because why not? They're right there in the recording booth, you can have lines for every older hero. But Abrams won't have lines about killing them in return, unless it's lore important enough to call his VA.
>>749772286Unfortunately they very much do not want someone with a rocket launcher to be viable purely through their M1
>>749772338It does make me concerned about how many characters they want, we're getting 6 every 7 or 8 months, it's getting a little overwatch-y especially when each batch isn't even finished being balanced yet by the time the next group arrives. I know MOBAs are known for having 10000 different characters, but holy shit how frequently do they plan to add after launch if this is still their in-development state?
>>749772549If memory serves they said they wanted to launch the game with at least 50 characters, so the next batch might be the last batch of 6 before they spend more time focusing on other aspects of the game before the full releaseAfter that we'll probably see a new character once in a blue moon
>>749713761why didnt they use these resources to make TF3?
>>749772549Be glad they're all free and it isn't League of Legends bullshit.I'm expecting at least 2 more batches of six heroes before official launch, then 2 heroes a year.
>>749772671Because corporations don't make games, people make games.TF2 was made by people that either left Valve (Moby Francke, Casali) or don't care about it anymore and moved on (Robin Walker)
>>749772670that would be reasonable, all the leaks indicate they're working on some serious shit with all the pve stuff so Deadlock may become Valve's new big main game rather than just kind of a side thing like DOTA. That's my hope, it deserves to blow up. But there was a special magic in playing that aug 2024 build, nobody knew the game, it was like internet gnosticism
>>749714903Split shot is really good at procing his 1 which gives him range, andunless they patch it:overheat 2 and pop ethereal shift before it goes off and does crazy damage.
>>749773010>Deadlock may become Valve's new big main game rather than just kind of a side thing like DOTACS crying in the corner
>>749773146I would feel bad, but they killed Danger Zone so idc. Lol! it will still be the indoctrination machine of the eastern european youth forevermore
>>749773010>Deadlock may become Valve's new big main game rather than just kind of a side thing like DOTAWith the amount of effort (and also time and money) being put into it I would be shocked if they just left it as is and moved on once 1.0 drops Valve has plans for>A PvE mode>Voiced visual novels with branching paths>Hideout customization and minigames>Character cosmetics of courseThey're really putting a lot of eggs in this basket and so far it's working out marvelously for themIf they stick the landing with fair monetization, they'll have a(nother) generational game on their hands
>hmm let me try this mina character>assigned green but 2 more people from my team show up for some reason>ok ill go help haze mid>vs shiv and paige>they keep diving me like no tomorrow and i kill them>haze decides to join the fiesta bottom and leaves me 1v2 i keep farming them but they nonstop suicide for tower damage and it eventually goes down>now the enemy bebop is here and they are all trying to rape me non stop while the entire team brawls bot (while losing somehow)>towers go down and were down to throne cuz im the only one defending against the jihadi suicide squad>i kill the 3 barely and boost bot and clean up the rest>we push and win fnally>score is 35/3>our fucking danny with like 7 kills got MVP somehow >mfwi reported the whole lobby, that was the most stressful unfun game of anything in my life
>>749754585as a Rubick main i really wanna play this dude but the teleport and weird missile shit feels so bad to use, like how the fuck are you supposed to use teleport outside of escapes or doubling missiles?
>>749773742>>749773010All I want is proper custom game/community map supportThe crazy amount of custom shit deadlock's mechanics can allow is going to be insane
>>749774001It's for doubling missiles and your gun, escapes and breaking line of sight while fighting.You place it and fire some missiles and fight for a while, once you're on the backfoot you swap and use that moment of confusion to get damage on your opponent before they reorient to where you are.
>>749774210sounds complicated since im used to rubick's basic as fuck kit but ill try playing him a bit moreany other tips?
>>749774161>All I want is proper custom game/community map supportRecent datamining has shown that also seems to be in the pipeline too
>>749774270I'm not very good at Sinclair because I have issues landing his vexing bolts, so I would say practice those. They build up to max damag while travelling and have a really high damage ceiling (I regularly see 500+ max damage per bolt in lategame) so a lot of people either shoot them straight up and treat them like an airstrike or fire them above the enemy's head and then redirect them down on top of them once the missiles clear cover.
I fear I'm too retarded for this game. There's a ton of moving parts and the controls are total ass. It plays like a mix of TF2 and an ASSFAGGOTS game. So far I've played Ivy and the starting vampire chick. I feel like I'm just doing chip damage to everybody and every thing.
>>749774590Mobas aren't an easy genre to get intoYou gotta develop a lot of game sense specifically for themAnd that game sense will only come with time and practice
>>749774161have you seen the map Harbour? i really hope they add it as a legit map, same way they do for tf2 maps, its awesome
>>749775031Harbor is great but unfortunately the new map update broke my headSo I hope it can get updated with visuals watching what we currently haveThankfully they can just pick and choose from a load of different assets now
>>749773019he is much much much better after his buffswhich came like 5 minutes after i wrote that posti think he's comfortably good? right now after the hotfix. B/high C-tier rather than S-tierhe still has a lot of the same problems and they're just integral to his kitthe reason why i was suggesting mechanical changes instead of raw numbers is because i don't think he'll ever be beyond B-tier without having giga disgusting numbershe still has too many hard counters and feels giga clunky imo>slowing hex 1600 item makes him unusable>knockdown same thing>made useless by any fire rate decrease>can only double jump when jetpack is on cooldown>have to make a keybind for zips or its hard to get on them>ult unusable indoors (where all the important fights happen)>buying fire rate makes rocket jump variable speed which makes rocket jumping weird>extremely low ground speed/bad air control make him feel like piloting an ice skaterchanges i'd suggest:>rocket should be alt fire instead of charged left click>rocket should have constant fire rate with fire rate items increasing its radius/damage, removing current range effect interactions>divebomb should be unstoppable once triggered giving him a counter to slowing hex like mina>in exchange for -spirit res he should get innate 10-15% bullet res so he doesn't get insta shot down by any gun carry>this would also nerf rocket jumping early game because i think he's going to be a ganking demon>>749743803i wrote this in the OG post but toxic bullets/silencer are cool and all but they don't fix the kit problemsany other gun carry can also apply them very quickly without tying themselves to an ability that forces them to medium-close rangethe range where he don't really want to be since he has 0 resists and extremely low health growthyou get stunned/staked/slowing hex'd one time on this character and if you have no cleanse you're just dead
>>749771758Yeah, Rem's delivery on his newer lines sounds very different than his older ones. I noticed it immediately when I picked the game back up.
>game is still the shining example of A.S.S.F.A.G.G.O.T.S. lacking a entrypoint like fighting games>not enough casual modes to really tie it togetherGenuinely offer a few more casual modes and flesh out free roam that would tie it all together for the "real mode". This shit is way too unemployed still for it to be fun especially when it feels like exploring or experimenting punishes you and your team>b-but do booot matches!!!That is BORING. AS. FUCK. and you know it. Labbing is the exact reason why Casuals get eaten alive in fighting games especially when said games dont offer anything else.
>>749775380Street Brool, PvE mode, and whatever shit the playerbase makes in the workshop will keep the deadcocking alive for years
>>749775380I'm pretty sure a vast majority of Deadcockers are in Street Brawl or dicking around with the Voice Line Jukebox patiently waiting for the PvE mode.The Standard mode is just trying to out autismo the other team right now.
>>749775575Street Brawl is good but it really isnt enough. PvE would be insanely good if it actually comes to fruition (especially since RoR devs), i would hands down sink so much time into that (and i can make a bet that it would go to 500k or more players with 2/3 just playing PvE)
>>749775783>>749775575been saying for months, SB could be HUGE if they would invest in it, unfortunately they have barely touched it since release and as such paige and graves have regularly settled at 60-65% WR in the mode so its a total nightmare. new heroes are even worse. if they invested in SB as the new player friendly, casual gamemode, it could work, but they dont care i guessalso pve is practically guaranteed, go watch valve news network/tyler mcvicker video with a bunch of datamined info. they have bosses, chests/crates, powerups already datamined etc
>>749774590it's all about the souls, if you are 5k ahead of an enemy player then chances are your little chip damage are actually going to be killing them in 4 seconds damage
VIOLET TOMORROW
>>749776313>pve is practically guaranteedDon't say those words or it will either be submitted to Valve time hell or scrapped
>>749776313I also should say>trusting tyler mcnigger>everYou are gonna be met with dissappointment
>>749778035>>trusting tyler mcniggerHe is literally just parroting other leakers. He has no first hand information.
>>749778035That mcnigger video was entirely datamines anywayOther source autismos saw the same shit so at least it isnt filled with his usual dogshit speculation
I don't play deadlock BUTid fuck ivy desu
>>749778194Fair enough. I just dont touch his shit with a 10 foot pole anymore for reasons
Paige huge titties
>>749713821fukken gotem
>>749778194then post the actual datamines instead of laundering it through vlogspam from a faggot
It sucks that half of night shift is unwatchable because the NA scene is so fucked. How is are there only 5 good players in the country and they’re all on the same team
>>749778632They are all still better than you. And anyway, I watch NA finals for weekly eido humiliation ritual.
>>749778632wander isn't on a team tho
>>749778782is eido the trannywhoever the tranny is i feel disgusted whenever i watch a highlight reel and he's on itfucking vtubers using cartoon gifs to cover up their faces, it's gross
it's weird actually knowing one of the deadlock devs desui'm friends with one of the hopoo guys who got picked up by valvedon't have any insider information or anything since very strict NDA and he doesnt want to risk 500k USD salary but still
>>749779131Tell him to make sure playable Cadence becomes a reality or else I will be UPSET
I really hope valve adds someone from friends of humanity, its so fucking odd that there is not a SINGLE racist character in 1950's new york of all things
>>749779131Its honestly fucking weird knowing a prolific 4chan autist like hopoo is at vakve now. Like I was here when /v/ gave feedback on RoR.
>>749779497Someone post the Apollo quotes
>>749779679bro is not racist. >goes to human school>has human friends>even says flat out humans are not badhe's the prince of Ixia and (fucking obviously) thinks Ixia is great and better then earth, hardly makes him anywhere near a racist
>>749779805>but he has a black friend!
>>749779881this but unironically, a non human living among humans and adapting to human life that easy is pretty much not raciest in my book
when are they replacing this concord-ass design?
>>749721529MOTHER CUMS
how do I get beta access without needing to talk to anyone
I'm convinced Danny is high skillcap hitler and that 90% of people are just too stupid to play him right
>>749780828You don'tYou can only get in via invite from someone on your friend's list who has access already
>>749780870Actual combat wise he's pretty straight forward. Bombard area with missiles and charged M1s then dive in once overheating, use your 3 to cooldown faster or stay in the air longer and use your 4 to finish someone offIt's just that his potential movement around the map can be insane so one second he could be in one lane, the next he'll be in another
>>749780546they already told you, before the game is out but not before
>>749780828you gotta add someone but most people inviting others aren't going to talk at all outside of maybe a hi or a np if you thank them.
>>749780870he requires 300% effort to be 80% of a regular hero
>>749780546I hope they give haze her cool smoky flowing hair from the concept art, even if it doesn't look as professional
>>749772671Tf2 is already great though, I don't need 3
>rat is the most broken character right now>retard in my team always goes 2 - 14 with himsome people should stay in casual
>>749781536This but with Graves>One of the highest winrate characters overall>Braindead easy to play>SOMEHOW retards manage to feed on her
>>749743995>>divebomb Silver as she transforms>>grab her assIs that so
>>749780965The rocket movement is actually crazy on himHe's an absolute fucking menace early mid game with his rotations A good Danny will always have his ult on cooldown because of how much hell uses it in ganks
>>749781536fucking how he's easy as shit>grenade that homes in on people and explodes multiple times>rat swarms that jump on fucking anyone in the vicinity and force dashes to get them off + easy spirit procs and lowered resists>free plated armor + spellbreaker on all damage with a barrier that he can spam constantly>insane value ult that can't get canceled and forced on cooldown, literally all you have to do is run around like a retard and then plant the damn thing and it basically wins the teamfight for you
>>749781536Big ass targets like him make it easy to punish bad players with any gun build
he's the first character that i've legitimately felt bad laning against. if i'm buying any green items early i can just outright ignore him to the point that i can stand still and let him shoot me while i cs
>deadname danny in team = automatic losesimple as
