The best Christian character in vidya bar none.
Christ larpers should be executed
>best christian is a murderous schizoid
>>749755763That is a very religious stance.
>>749755709I thought he was a mormon
>>749755763Agreed, we just need to get all the groypers and zoomers together in one place.>>749755817Murder is part of human nature.
>>749755904mormons pretend they're christian
>>749755709Mormons are as christian as muslims
>>749755709He's mormon so absolutely not
There is no evidence for God
>>749755883for jews and muslims not christians
>>749755709Him and Kingdom of Heaven directors cut are the only religious material I need desu
>>749755934>>749755904Literally no church on Earth recognizes Mormons as Christians. And that's an objective fact, they're actually a pagan polytheistic religion.Also Graham isn't a Mormon. Yeah, I know he's called that in-game, but he recognizes the divinity of Christ, which is a big NO NO in Mormonism.
>>749755904>>749756275>>749756309I've tried reading Mormon scripture and even talking to a few over the years and I still can't understand what they even believe. To me it seems like a kind of Scientology offshoot mixed with other cult ideas. Regardless a very odd religion especially given it's ties to the American government.
>>749755904not really
Book of Mormon? More like Book of Moron.
>>749755709The whole point of his character is that he's a terrible Christian and hides behind scripture to convince himself what he's doing is righteous.
>>749756937It's a sham religion that outlived its creator just like islam
>>749755709>christianIsn't he a mormon? They're not christians afaik by virtue of not being trinitarians and not believing that Christ is God but some weird first among humans crap.
>muh morman!!nigga there’s zero chance Joshua has any fucking idea who joe smith is. he just from utah
>>749757902Yes, but don't point that out.
>>749758001He knows John Browning and calls him one of his people.
>>749755763Every time I see posts like this it's some atheist mad that nobody thinks they're cool, smart, or edgy any more, or a neopagan mad that people laugh at him for worshipping an effigy of his "god" that just looks like an erect Tung Tung Tung Sahur statue.
>>749755709>is retardedwhat did Todd mean by that?
>>749757902are those Joshua's words or the words you gave him after believing others bearing false witness?
>>749755763What is a real christian?
The funny thing about Mormonism is that it's basically objectively not true owing to the fact that the "historical" side of the Book of Mormon has just been thoroughly proven to not be even slightly based on reality by archaeology, linguistics, genetics, etcAnd before you ask, yes, to a much greater extent than the Old Testament
>>749755763good thing real christians are the best people in america
>>749755929>Murder is part of human nature.I'm being pedantic, but "murder" is a legal term amd killing is a part of nature not "human nature"
>>749757902What mormon traditions does he follow and which mormon beliefs does he espouse? Who is the current prophet? Does he call himself mormon? He’s as mormon as any Christian that happened to be born in Utah is.
>>749758296end of the day they have the strongest christian adjacent community in america today and coupling that with their strong societal connections I value their existence and think they do a lot more good, regular religous people barely have anything besides their sunday hobby, Mormons run a fucking city
>>749755709He's not christian
>>749758296Well not true or not it's just weird going on about mormons as christians when they literally don't believe Jesus Christ is God.Probably why jews like them so much after all they deny Christ's divinity.
>>749755817“I don’t enjoy killing but when done righteously it is just a chore just like any other”
Joshua Graham:>”I believe that our Lord was made flesh as Jesus Christ and died to redeem me.” Internet Theologians:>he’s not a Christian because he doesn’t go to goobagoodabogoole three times a week as described in my Bible fan fiction because he believes in a different Bible fanfiction he never mentions in game because he just does okay
LDS is closer to paganism. They believe that God the Father was flesh and blood and "progressed" into being God and that all humans can "progress" into Godhood. Christ is a lesser divinity the 'firstborn', separate from God the Father, that Lucifer is a divinity like him and that all human beings are the same kind of divinity as him. Their core tenets break with both all of early Christianity and with all Christian denominations who all agree with the Trinity.You can't even call them Arians because Arianius would have unironically had them stoned for claiming that of God the Father and of Christ.
>>749758752>christian adjacentYou are too broad in your definitons. That muddies the waters for other people who don't understand what you are trying to say
>>749757902I honestly don't know why Sawyer called him a "Mormon." He didn't do it by accident, the man is obsessed with history and very knowledgeable about theology.I think it was meant to show that a de-facto pagan religion slowly merged back into an actual Christian faith.
>>749760659>all humans can "progress" into Godhood.Isn't that essentially Theosis in Orthodoxy?
>>749758752They're not "Christian adjacent." They literally reject the divinity of Christ, believe in the existence of multiple gods, and believe you yourself can become a god.
>>749761465No, theosis, or divinization in the Catholic Church, is getting closer to the likeness of God.Mormons believe you can become an actual deity that rules over its own planet.
>>749755763>>749755817uh oh libshit meltyyy
>>749755763tranny or jew? good odds it's both but this time I'm betting only one
>>749755709Idk about that but he is cool
>>749761465No, theosis doesn't mean ontological godhood but full union with God's grace, light, love, truth etc to a state closer to God than humans were before original sin had even come into the world or to steal from wikipedia (I know I know) "As God became human, in all ways except sin, he will also make humans "God", i.e., "holy" or "saintly", in all ways except his Divine Essence, which is uncaused and uncreated." Mormons incidentally believe closer to becoming a pagan god with their own planet to rule.
>>749761581>Mormons believe you can become an actual deity that rules over its own planet.sounds rather satanic innit
>>749755709Why does he need that many 1911s?
For me, it’s Gnosticism.
>>749755763>>749755817
>>749755709>christian>zion, goys
>>749761903Anon, there's a reason no church recognizes Mormonism as Christian + Mormon baptisms aren't recognized by them.If you're Catholic and have no other option you can freely go to a Lutheran or Orthodox mass and accept Communion there. You can't do that in a Mormon church any more than in a mosque.
>>749761975this
>>749761446He only refers to him as one in data and commentary because it’s something that actually exists in real life, there isn’t a singular instance of the word “mormon” or LDS in the entire game, and we’re just supposed to ignore that fact and pretend every aspect of Mormonism survived but the fucking name. The Mormon line of prophets is obviously nuked away in this setting, New Caananism is just an evangelical denomination with some of the surviving cultural norms of Christian Utah
>>749755709Christianity is objectively evil.
>>749756937Read Mark Twain's reveiw of the book of mormon in Roughing It. Perfectly sums everything up. Joseph Smith was barely literate and it shows that the only thing he probably ever read in his life was the bible.
>>749755709I was gonna disagree with you and tried to think of another good Christian video game character but I couldn't. So maybe you're right.
>>749762131Caesar calls them Mormons.
>>749761975Obviously also nonsense. Can you think of why it doesn't come up as much? On the website infested with tradcath larping antisemites? You know Jews don't evangelise right?
>>749762249they love to larp as christians and try to tell people what the bible sayswhere the fuck have you been for these numerous decades
>>749755817Kek
>>749755709>mormon>christian
>>749762249>You know Jews don't evangelise right?lmao yeah that's why literally every person on the take from certain groups makes sure to pair up their kid with a sufficiently rich jewish kid and have them convert.
>>749762131>there isn’t a singular instance of the word “mormon” or LDS in the entire game,Old Mormon Fort is still called that. Fucken gottem
>>749755709Wasn't he a mormon?
>>749762310>>749762438>/pol/ schizobabbleHey can one of you niggers tell me why Jews are able to effortlessly control every facet of Western society while simultaneously being unable to curtail any dissent online about their actions or the recent wave of anti-Zionism seen across all levels of normie social media?
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>>749755709>His faith in Jesus Christ, The Light Of The World, burned brighter than the pitch covering his body.Graham's unique in vidya by portraying that true faith in religion can push people beyond the limits that constrain secular beliefs and motivations. If you believe that life ends at death then you're going to be far less willing to undergo Herculean tasks or make large sacrifices in the name of some temporal ideology. Simple as.
>>749762694look at how he recoils
>>749755763FPBP
>>749755904>>749756309>>749757902>>749762346>>749762545No, sorry, you need to unsubscribe from all those video essay larp channels.
>>749756937It's like Freemasonry but somehow lamer.
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>>749755763when will the posters here grow up from their atheist phase
>>749758752They are a fucking mafia that steals legos.
Reminder that Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire. It is an inferior religion that promotes weak values. The very notion that Christianity ‘founded civilisation’ is laughable.
>>749763134>Reminder that Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire.so it was a force of good in the world?
>>749762931because he literally took a bunch of their rituals from freemasonry
>>749762145crazy how people will have searing hatred of religion just because theyre critical of butt sex and gooning
>>749763134Where are all of your false gods now? Why were they defeated?
>>749763134the roman empire oppressed white people
>>749763134Southern Europeans are just weak
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>>749762694Bibi wants more antisemitism in America so that Jews are forced to flee to his pedo state.
>>749755929>>749758529"Killing" is part of the "nature" of nearly every living thing on the planet. Even plants will parasitize other plants, like kudzu vine."Murder" is specifically a kind of "killing" that Humans have agreed is counter-productive to civilization. The moral weight is literally built into the meaning of the word.
>>749763134>"stronger">loses
>>749763134Molek, Remphan, Baal…
>>749762694>being unable to curtail any dissent onlineSomeone isn't keeping up with new legislation, US and EU.
>>749763134Perfect example of correlation=/=causationRome was going to fall either way. Jesus happening was just a coincidence
>>749762145Because muslim scripture totally isn't full of lies and is 100% true
>>749755709>literal allegory for the old testament god>best christiankek you people are stupid
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>>749761446Because the Mormons have a rich history in Western mythos and american expansion? They are one of the keystones of Western literature; Yeehaw cowboys, dangerous gunslinging outlaws, murderous yet spiritual indians, and gun-toting mormon preachers. It makes complete sense that in your post-apocalyptic cowboy game set in Nevada, the real life church of survivalists and pioneers would be featured, even if they don't actually quote the Book of Mormon.
>>749763473The Western Roman Empire lasted for centuries after Christianity and the Eastern half endured for another thousand years. Christian Rome influenced every single civilization that still exists. The change towards monotheism was probably inevitable either way.
>>749763134The Roman Empire kinda sucked
>>749756789>he recognizes the divinity of Christ, which is a big NO NO in Mormonism.That’s wrong, Mormons accept Christ as divine, but they don’t accept the Trinity.
>>749763659I have the impression Mormons were more often than not depicted as black hats.
>>749755709His voice acting was definitely memorablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhsqRqJ74k
>>749763221>critical of butt sex and gooninglmao you wishI could pick any church at random within 100 miles and there's a 99% chance they have open rainbow-signalling faggots either in the congregation or in the priesthood.100% of them being a foreign invader too if they're Catholic or Orthodox.The only thing they're hardass towards anymore is straight white european nativist men. Fastest way to get a priest to get red in the face is to deny the "right" to infinite mass-immigration, rejecting the idea of sacrificing yourself for women you aren't even related or married to, rejecting the idea of listening to "ex"-whores and homos for spiritual advice, rejecting the idea of donating to third-world nations with very loose AML laws and rejecting the idea of babylon-building globalism.
>Jews are horrible, wretched creatures. The embodiment of pure, unfiltered evil.>anyway, go ahead and venerate this religion built on the foundation of jewish mythology, you're not a libshit cuck are you?
>>749763692>The change towards monotheism was probably inevitable either way.And a good thing
>>749763925I love Jews
>>749761975Calling cuckstianity bullshit is calling it's Daddy religion bullshit too though? You do realize your religion is the gay fanfiction sequel to the Jew religion right?
