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in hindsight, is this the worst Fromsoft DLC they've created?
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I thought it was disappointing but still had a few fun highlights.
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>>749761362
yea definitely worse than the ds3 dlc that added 1 boss and nothing else
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>>749761760
yeah but that dlc wasnt 40 fucking dollerinos
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>>749761362
whats bad about it other than being too hard for you?
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>>749761362
Fuck I hate Furnace Golems.
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>>749761362
It was cut content re-packaged as a DLC
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>>749761362
>guys what if popular thing was actually bad?
real interesting thread as always gotta hand it to you
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>>749761362
>Ashes of Ariandel
>2 hours of content
>sets up a story thread that never resolves
>that will be 15USD
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>>749761991
It was two dlcs smushed into one.
>Mesmer was dlc1
>Miquella was dlc2
That’s why it literally makes no sense.
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>>749761362
I enjoyed fucking with all the new weapons, it’s fun that punching a dragon to death is somewhat viable. Still mad we didn’t get the kusarigama those little niggers from caelid have though.
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>>749761362
It is a DLC that is bigger than several previous Souls games and has some of the best level design and enemy design in the series.

The only substantive critique is that it could have been a full sequel with some expansion and would have perhaps been even better there.
>>749761760
There is nothing wrong with the Painted World other than being a bit pricey on release.
The level itself is top tier.
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>>749761991
Elden Ring is too big to make that argument.
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>>749761362
It was clearly rushed out unfinished.
Way too much empty space on the map and way too many npc "bosses"

This dlc is also the first time i thought they went way too far with the anime 50 move long movesets they not only gave every boss but also just random enemies.
Why the fuck would i not just run past all the enemies when they take so much effort to kill.

Next fromsoft game they need to figure out normal enemies and stop people from just running past everything.
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>>749761362
nah, that's Ash of Ariandel. It was deemed acceptable only because the final boss is a good fight.
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>>749761362
no dark souls 3 dlc 1 is by far the worst
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>>749761760
why do people treat these games like a boss rush. I thought people complained that ds3 felt to linear and was too boss focused. Ashes of ariandel gave you a huge open level instead but everyone still complained.
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>>749763023
fromsoft has a split fanbase, one is bigger than the other and its the rollslop corridor rush sloppa enjoyers
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>>749761362
No that's still ashes of ariandel, they seriously should've packed it together with ringed city
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>>749763023
much like the "DARK SOULS 2 WORST THING EVER EVERYONE HATED IT" NPC opinion, hating on ashes of ariandel is also something that didn't actually happen and is a narrative created after the fact by youtube sloppers and parroted by ipad kids who didn't even know how to read when these games came out and people were actually playing them.
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>>749763303
im devastated we'll never get another Dark Souls 2 again.
it did a lot wrong but also a lot right
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>>749761362
Not a chance. Even if it's not the absolute best one, I'd still put it above Ariandel and any of the individual DS2 DLCs (though all three together average out to pretty good).
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Ashes of Ariandel is easily their worst.

>for a bad game
>short
>one boss
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>>749761796
I didn't pay for shadow of the erdtree so that isn't a factor for me
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>>749762134
It's literally resolved in The Ringed City
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>>749763451
>ds3
>bad
Not on your life.
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>>749763507
fair enough then
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>>749763023
Huge flat open level with nothing in it but annoying mobs
The sissycord really lost the plot
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Really good dlc but it feels strange. There is 1 big 5 man quest and they all sit in the same spot for most of the dlc and you are free to go all over the place for no reason except to explore for your own sake.
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DS1's DLC is easily the worst, it's literally just cut content and a reskinned area from the base game
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>>749763023
That mentality is only held by pvp crowd (discord). Everyone else played the role playing game like a roleplaying game.
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>>749761362
Its better than artorias of the abyss and old hunters
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>>749763783
old hunters was much better, like it's not even close.
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>>749763710
What??? Pvpers want cool areas to invade in and we want new weapons with interesting movesets
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>>749763658
>you are free to go all over the place for no reason except to explore for your own sake.
except if you want to do all the questlines. It's so fucking baffling that approaching Messmer's castle in any shape or form can suddenly progress entire questlines that you might've not even touched. I remember going out exploring after defeating Rellana, finding a hole in the ground, going through it, popping out in a weird village, crossing a bridge, and then suddenly a great rune exploded in the distance, and a bunch of quests are now fucked sideways. I didn't even realize I was approaching Messmer's castle, it was a big fucking forest, and there were a bunch of midgets attacking me. It's one of the weirdest and most inexplicable parts of the entire DLC.
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>>749763823
No way jose
Ludwig is the only half decent boss in the entire DLC
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SOTE is great but suffers from the same problem that ER base game has, that is the huge empty open world that turns the game into a walking simulator
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>>749761362
I liked 2 of the bosses. That's it. Overall the DLC was boring.
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>>749763912
elden ring bastardized my favorite weapon
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It manages to have some of the highest highs AND some of the lowest lows of the entire game.
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The story makes no fucking sense after the DLC
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>>749762865
I liked the DLC but the boss fights were trash. Problem when your fan base becomes too autistic.
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i'll always remember the switch up when the Consort Radahn leaked happened.
People were calling it fake because it looked so shit and then it was actually real and suddenly it was peak
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>>749761921
I thought it was too empty. Like they had to follow up on how massive the main game was but didn't have the time to actually fill it all up and justify why the map was so big, so they just sprinkled in a bunch of recycled dragon and giant boss fights and a scattering of level two smithing stones at random. The Abyssal Woods might be my least favorite Fromsoftware area that I can remember.
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>>749764112
This literally never happened, no one in their right mind considers Consort Radhan the peak of Fromsoft bosses and if they do they are trolling you.
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>>749764167
It was cool area with awful execution.
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>>749764184
The hardcores did, there were Anons who got livid at any critism, all active when it came out.
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>>749763946
SOTE is far from empty, poorfag
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>>749764298
oh you mean all the "you didn't beat radahn naked with an un-upgraded club at level 1 with controls mapped on to a donkey konga bongo controller you played with your buttcheeks? you didn't beat the game" talk?
yeah that was all 100% serious
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I really hate the Marvel-isation of the From fanbase that seems to have become widespread with ER, by which I mean the way the nu-Fromdrones basedface over Radahn and Godfrey like they're superheroes. I always hated Radahn's design for this reason as he looks completely ridiculous.
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It’s funny playing nightreign for so long and how learnable all the base game stuff is then you face the fucking ice divine beast soldier and it’s such a fucking mess
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>>749764112
>>749764184
>>749764298
>posted it again award
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>>749764348
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>>749763895
>except if you want to do all the questlines
You are still free to go anywhere you want while doing the questlines. What I'm saying is all 5 of the gooftroop are sitting in a line in scadu altus and then they all move to 2 different spots.
A huge swathe of the dlc area has nothing to do with them or the story in the dlc itself it is just flavor for the people that cared about the world and wanted to find out more lore.
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>>749764053
>but the boss fights were trash.
Messmer, Metyr, Midra, Bayle and the gank squad vs. gank squad were all fun fights. The others not so much. PCR shat the bed; Rellana suffered from not having a proper cutscene and too many stringing combos that left the sweet spot Malenia achieved; the Sunflower doesn't do anything right besides music; the boar fag had some fucked up hitboxes, and you can't even do a jousting match with Torrent, who was robbed of being useful in at least one boss fight besides serving as a taxi; the goo fag ran away far too much, mf was the Guardian Dragon 2; Dancing Lion was fun, but he covered the screen way too often, even without lock-on; Romina is forgettable.
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>>749764414
Dark Souls 3 attracted the anime boss rush crowd. Elden Ring is just Dark Souls 3 but in an open world setting and thats why they love it so much
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>>749764461
That place was so fucking sick I loved all the things you could see there. Unique enemies, awesome lore, a mansion, frenzied goats rolling around. It was kino. Lots of people only did the stealth section and then moved on and said it was empty which is weird.
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>>749761362
idk if you consider the repetitive garbage they shit out that's basically standalone dlc to be dlc then they've got some real fucking stinkers like king's field 3 and dark souls
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don't you DARE touch Miquella the Kind!
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>>749761362
>Get hyped for this area shown in the trailer
>LITERALLY NOTHING here in the release

Why do this?
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>>749764775
So you can explore and find all the cool stuff there.
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>>749764812
like what
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>>749764491
Rhino General was the only one I enjoyed, becuase it was rollslop. Everything else was hiding behind a sheild or faceblocking proc race. Thats why I think the bosses flopped. It wasn't Dark souls.
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>>749763946
Fun or mostly areas you HAVE to trek through? I don't find Volcano Manor or the magic academy that fun.
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>>749764461
>>749764569
>literally one area
I rest my penis on your forehead
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>>749764775
yoda katana, femboy dancing set, path to Trina, and it's pretty to walk around.
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>>749764737
she was the only thing from the dlc that i even moderately gave a shit about and she didn't even really do anything, like 2 lines of dialogue and a very tiny cutscene
at the very least there should've been an option to marry and impregnate her like ranni had in the base game or w/e
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>>749764569
Nah, it sucks. I never go back there during NG+.
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>>749764851
You are a subhuman needing to use that build lol
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>>749764948
You don't even own the game, poorfag
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>>749764851
i dont know how this boss got the green light.
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>>749764913
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I ragequit because I failed half of my quests just by walking past an imaginary line. What a stupid game design.
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>>749764948
I always rush there because Midra is my favorite Elden Ring boss. I love his music and his moveset is so elegant to dodge. I could fight that motherfucker for hours on end.
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>>749761362
I always think of the underground city in DS2 when shitty dlc comes up. That whole zone was miserable to go through and even the dragon boss didn't make up for it.
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>>749764851
>Everything else was hiding behind a shield
That's every Soulslike unless you are a try hard that dualweilds for a miniscule amount more damage and want a higher death rate.
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>>749764775
Cool I'm not the only one disgusted by all those places filled with literally fucking nothing. Beta tier ass coast with dragons returning yet again and maybe one enemy populating the whole realm.
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>>749765037
this should've been me, give me the red hat and the blonde gf, i deserve it i won the fight
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>>749764830
There is a Miquella cross there, a demin-human boss that fights with a star sword, a demi-human queen with a corrupted Marika name so you can get more themes to pick up on the lore, an underground cave leading to an npc evergaol on an island, a guy meditating under one of the big gnarled bird trees with a trina recipe book so you get come awesome lore there, it leads to one of the Metyr bell crash sites, has a shack hidden off alone with another recipe book about fingers, and it has another hole (make sure to get the other trina book close by before going down) leading to the underground place where Miquella left trina. It is also layered under an area above it with red flowers so when you look on the map and see the red and blue flower zones overlapping you get clued in to the twin-bird events that happened there.

Pic rel isn't the same area but it is the same type of tree the corpse meditating with the trina book is.
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PCR was a better boss than Malenia gameplay wise.
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>>749765037
insane sex
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>>749764949
>How 95% beat the game
Im glad your so hardcore you didnt but for the rest of us that have had sex before we arent going to memorize the moves. But I wont take away your one victory in a otherwise sad, hollow, pathetic existence. You "got good", incel. lol
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>>749765156
Ngl, if I had to pick fighting Malenia for 10 hours straight or PCR for 5 hours straight, I'd pick Malenia.
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>>749761362
Yes.
>be me, love ER
>get to the late game
>regions have big empty parts, clearly not as fleshed out as the ones before
>i-its fine, the DLC will be worth getting through them!
>the DLC is even worse
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>>749765037
how is ass fucking that even considered gay?
dude is the most beautiful woman ive ever seen
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>>749765257
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>>749765257
you don't cherry-pick just because the cock is cute and the ass is sweet as vanilla ice cream.
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>>749765091
What are you babbling about is your neo vagina itchy? That's the best level in dark souls 2.
>complex and beautiful map, giant buildings moving up and down that you can use to harm enemies, or create covers, or go to secret places, cool Aztec looking pyramid full of traps, some platforming, two bosses that need a different strategy to defeat and who are using cool gimmicks
It's so much better than the vanilla DS2 zones that whenever someone's talking about DS2 dlc they're posting pictures of this particular one. Not brume tower or snow Disneyland.
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>>749765214
I’d pick the opposite.
PCR only took me a few hours to beat the first time (it was after the patch though).
Malenia took me days and I still hate fighting her.
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>>749765091
I loved it, very Lovecraftian. I am a DS2 fan though.
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>>749765340
if i had to fuck a manly woman or that angelic twink, i'd choose the twink. I'm not even gay, bro but come one. You're lying if you say otherwise
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>>749761362
It's the best actually. Only ds3 rollsloppers who refuse to do anything other than roll+r1 hate it.
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>>749765037
Isnt this some jew that trooned out his son to molest him?
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>>749765554
Yes. He hasn't really gotten work since so that is good I guess.
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>>749763540
Nothing is resolved retard.
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>>749765554
Yeah, there are some seriously eyebrow raising photos from when "she" was a little boy
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>>749765942
Gael becomes le dark souls, and you hand over that dark souls to his loli in the past so she can do some finger painting with it and thus create the world of Elden Ring with her five fingers.
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i liked it significantly more than ashes of ariandel and the massively overrated artorias one from ds1
my main problem was the map being pointlessly large just for the sake of being big
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>>749766068
Chat is this true?
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>>749766068
Not quite. If you are going to link all their games in a multiverse elden ring is the topmost reality we've seen yet with other series being nested below it in various branches.
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>>749761362
>lots of great bosses
>huge world with interesting locations
>huge amount of new weapons and builds
>more content than many previous from games have total
It's good. You got filtered hard if you dislike it.
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>>749766119
A lot of the dlc is intentionally big to play with scale like the base game did in caves. You can stand on a bluff in the dlc and look out and see the gnarled trees and mountains for what they really are it is pretty cool.
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>>749766194
>it's completely brown
>like diarrhea brown
>like miquella's dripping, used up bussy diarrhea brown
>anon screams kino
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Elden Ring sucked so I didn't play it. First From release I skipped since Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor. Then I skipped Nightreign and will skip Duskbloods too. Rest in Piss.
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>>749766276
Uh-oh, blatant mutt moment.
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>>749761362
Not even close
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>>749766265
some parts are cool like that, I think the main area I have a big gripe with is >>749764775 and the red area that you can see from near the start and then there's virtually fuckall there

I liked most of the bosses a lot
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>>749766537
The red area is iffy but the blue zone is great as already mentioned. I think the only thing significant in the red area are the ghostblooms growing behind graves for if you haven't figured out what is happening yet.
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>>749761760
elfriede was a good fight though
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>>749761362
I hate the Scooby snacks mechanic
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>>749766706
How did you feel about golden seeds or sacred flasks?
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>>749764238
Yeah, the intro to it was really cool with the creepy warning messages about something lying in wait. But finding out what it actually was was a letdown.
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>>749766706
Same. Wish we could've gotten an armor upgrading smithscript blacksmith that can also upgrade your weapons to +30/+15 with a new form of titanite. The bells that sell them would be found in those furnace mini dungeons.
>>749766782
Those are in landmarks, scooby snacks are spread haphazardly throughout the map, some fuck ass dudes with pots carry them. Seeds and tears are not the epitome of fun, but you can see churches of Marika in the map and find the seeds following the Grace.
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>>749767234
>scooby snacks are spread haphazardly throughout the map
They are at landmarks that you get maps for, then the game knows you know what they are visually after finding the ones that match up with the maps you got.
The pot guys are the easiest ones because their pots shine so you know they have cool loot. Some people don't have a brain and can't put information together though.
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>>749767371
I took the maps that hornsent gave me and then put pins on the map it felt awesome actually roleplaying in the roleplaying game. Having the gooftroop all initially standing next to a cross so you'd know what they were even if you didn't get the map yet was clever.
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>>749763023
People that liked DeS and DS1 don't, normalfags that jumped on the hype train later do
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>>749761362
i think so
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>>749765940
>>749766053
>god's chosen prople
>looks inside
>its just pedophiles
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>>749767527
I started the series with importing DeS with /v/ and I think elden ring is the best of their rpgs.
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>>749762647
>There is nothing wrong with the Painted World other than being a bit pricey on release.
>The level itself is top tier.
You're not an actual human being
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>>749767446
I was kind of retarted when the dlc came out and kept trying to sit at them thinking they were graces that were broken for dlc story reasons so I would warp back to the first grace you find every time I needed to level up in the starting zone.
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>>749762550
This shit pisses me off. By the time I can even reach the DLC I've got my build and weapons and can't be bothered to respec. I thought Nightreign would be my opportunity to play with all the shadow of the erdtree weapons but no they didn't even include any in that game's shitty DLC
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>>749768039
You can get to the dlc in about 20 minutes if you know the alternate route the devs had added since launch.
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>>749761362
It’s the best dlc
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>>749766068
That’s not a resolution at all because the entire point of the painting was they have their own cycle of rot. The painting cope makes no real sense it’s basically just linking the fire again but with a literal new coat of paint
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>>749761362
It had more content than any of the DS2 and DS3 DLCs. It is disappointing that there are a lot of empty areas though.
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>>749768176
You might not have understood what was going on.
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>>749768504
You are media illiterate.
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>>749768548
why are you repeated korean state media slogans?
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>>749761362
The implied pederasty should've generated more controversy than it did, but that would require people to uphold some kind of moral standard and they only like doing that when it's convenient.
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>>749768548
Nta but no that would be you
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>>749761362
it's kino actually
the only people who hated it were the ones who thought it was too hard
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>>749768684
>implied pederasty
Because of Miquella? He's thousands of years old and doesn't even look that young.
I can kinda see it just in it being a younger/older brother relationship, but coupled with the lack of anything sexual and all of these gods being hermaphroditic, Gnostic figures, you're kinda stretching to call it noncery.
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>>749768684
It didn't because there was none. I know, wild right.
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>>749768684
The bad guy does bad guy things then is killed wow
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>>749768891
The world’s most beautiful black woman
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>>749768684
No one really cared much when a discord told them Mario was raping Luigi either because it was made up.
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>>749768891
While I enjoy it kino it is not.
More the samey, dull world map.
Basically no new or interesting dungeons.
If any other dev or game did it, it'd be seen as slop.
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>>749764461
>oh no it's 3 winter lanterns
dumb area that should have been way spookier
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>>749766265
the aesthetic is great, but the content is too spread out
the whole southern half of the game feels empty
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>>749769326
i remember the forest where Torrent was too afraid to come out being very memorable oh and the cerulean coast
>>749769202
yea
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>>749769445
It is mostly used for a fun ARG done outside the game.
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>>749769561
I found a lot to enjoy about it.
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The final boss ruins it.
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>>749761362
No, this is worse.
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>>749769663
Love the t-posing birdmen.
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>>749767762
There is literally nothing bad about it.
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>>749769326
Shit take from a shit player
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>>749763946
Limgrave is all fun.
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>>749761760
The painted world was an amazingly long level though.
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>>749770009
shut up pradeep. i beat everything pre-nerf before you were fucking shit out your cow mom's ass.
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>>749770290
Is that name a replacement for eric?
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>>749765156
Malenia would be the perfect boss if you could dodge Waterfowl Dance consistently from in-close without any weird AI targeting exploits, BUT she was also twice as aggressive.
She's too passive, especially in phase 1, which makes the fight very uneven in difficulty. Either you're wailing on her with impunity, or she's raping you to death.
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>>749770290
>Didn't RL1, no skibbidi tree fragments, no weapon, naked, no hit run
Fucking caaaaaaasual faggot telling on yourself. No wonder you have a garbage fucking opinion
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>>749761362
Bro shut the fuck up.
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>>749768176
The difference is that each painter makes a unique world, rather than perpetuating the old one.
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>>749769326
you have 0 idea what the fuck was going on then
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Just by scale, number of bosses, and content, Shadow of Erdtree is the best DLC they ever made, period. You're talking about the first DLC to ever run as game of the year

Any opinion on the contrary, is said by an attention starved faggot
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>>749770610
Yawn
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>>749761362
it's the best one
>>749761991
that's just DLC in general
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>>749770610
>You're talking about the first DLC to ever run as game of the year
Lol I forgot that the dlc was that universally acclaimed. ER is the king of games pretty much.
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>>749770610
gameplay and additions were solid additions, except for I think two/three areas being completely absent of shit to get, and the lore being probably the worst miyazaki from has ever done.
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>>749770446
wrong i was the world first. didn't mention it because i figure it was obvious.. guess i see the low quality of player i am dealing with now



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