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WE MUST BE BETTER MEN.

>>749779703
I don’t get it, I’m sorry

>>749779641
It's fun. I got it on GMG for $20 and I'd say it's worth that price.

>>749779641
It's a decent enough Metroidvania but it doesn't really feel like Castlevania, y'know? It has all the trappings and the lore but the gameplay just feels closer to something like Hollow Knight with precision spikey platforming and closed battle rooms and such. It's good enough for what it is, I guess?

>>749779703
I hope one day they find a cure for schizophrenia. I really do.

>>749779641
I think it's a perfectly all right 6/10 game

>>749780190
Eh, I’d rather just get the advance collection or armoured core on eneba, I’d better just wait for the new bloodstained, Iga knows what’s up
It’s just feels wrong giving money and time away to not really what I’m looking for

Not even worth a pirate, the game looks like pure fucking slop, instead I will wait for Bloodstained 2.

Now THAT looks like Castlevania.

JP comments about the game.
Here are some choice quotes:
>But you know, I wanted to play Castlevania, not Prince of Persia.
>"It's completely different from Castlevania. If it weren't for Castlevania, who would accept your gameplay?"
>"I can understand why it's leaning more towards Soulslike games; it seems to reflect the current times. If it were an unnamed indie Metroidvania game, I might recommend it, but since it's a new Castlevania game, I won't recommend it."
>"It's completely different from Castlevania. If it weren't Castlevania, who would accept your controls? But I'm really fed up with the current online commentary environment where evaluating anything, or even just a game, always has to be divided into two completely opposing sides."
>"What can you do? The IP is in Konami's hands; they can mold it however they want. It could be Act! City, IGA City, Lords of Shadows, even pachinko, or of course, it could be a bunch of random hidden content, or a low-quality platformer like Dead Cells just to pad out the playtime. But that's Konami! FXXK KONAMI Also, art and music are very important; Castlevania isn't just about Koji Igarashi, it also includes Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane. As for this particular work, I'm sorry, I don't appreciate it."
>It's neither an action city nor an RPG city; the controls feel sluggish and lack any sense of enjoyment. They can't even sell nostalgia properly.
>What I was hoping for was either a game with fun exploration like HK, or one with interesting combat like Blasphemous. In reality, it's a watered-down version of Assassin's Creed Chronicles, or a less interesting Prince of Persia. The Castlevania elements have faded, and it's become just a game about parkour... Hmm, did they perhaps outsource it to Ubisoft?
>t's not worthy... No visuals No music No level design ...and so, it was a cursed object that lacked all the elements I was looking for.

https://youtu.be/Wm8vyg-zuf8?t=2041

>>749780348
The japanese are ruthless lmao, I’ll believe what you posted as true since it’s rather funny, I’ll skip out on this game

>>749779641
It’s a middling Hollow Knight clone. Fun, but not 30 USD fun.

>>749779641
>>749780190
It's built for the "metroidvania" crowd. They don't care about gameplay or the plot, just the mechanics no matter how clumsily they've been tacked together. It doesn't help that the music stinks and the art direction is lacking.

>>749780508
Right now (on Steam) it’s sitting at an abysmal 19% positive rating among the Japanese and 31% among the Chinese. They really, really hate it.

>>749780441
Lmao, dubstep and the least castlevania looking fight ever, holy it’s worse than I expected, I just seen a bit of the music and the trailers

>>749780441
Music is mediocre as fuck and the visuals look cheap.

>>749780190
Devs said the game is a hybrid or Dark Souls and Dead Cells. Of course it will feel different

>>749780734
Then what’s the point of it being castlevania if it’s not going to be castlevania

>>749780734
I don't want something different I want fucking Castlevania.

>>749780734
DS is a plague the industry won’t recover from in our lifetime.

>>749780785
nostalgia bait and ruin every single male character for being awful chuds, unlike the girlboss

>>749780785
For the modern audience crowd. I have seen analysis about Dead Cells selling an estimated 8 million - 10 million due to the Chinese market. The best selling Castlevania doesn't break 2 millions

>>749780734
How exactly an indie looking "castlevania" is an "hybrid" with a bit of dark souls? Really curious.

>>749780441
>https://youtu.be/Wm8vyg-zuf8?t=2041
Beyond how ugly it looks, I hate how devs have no care for readability. There's zero contrast and everything looks so flat.

>>749780829
What fucking nostalgia? Leon doesn't look like Leon, Isaac has green cum all over his face and Trevor is not even the MC.

>>749780857
I have no idea what visionary creative types do
>"We had many different versions of the game," Laulan reveals. "We had much slower versions, more like a Dark Souls kind of vibe with even more heavy combat and slow rhythm. Then we realized it wasn't really Castlevania because it was too slow, too intense, and just too hard. So we cranked up the speed, and then it was too much Dead Cells because it was too fast-paced, and the exploration wasn't there as much as it needs to be in Castlevania."
>Eventually, the team found that 'just right' middle ground.

So is this the typical /v/ shitposting or is it really that bad?

>>749780958
Yeah, it is fucking terrible, don't believe/v/? Check the steam ratting.

>>749780958
A bit of both i'd say. The game is very disappointing but /v/ is obviously exaggerating all of its (many) flaws

>>749780958
Try the demo and come to you own conclusion.

>>749780857
trend chasing.

Is it better than Mirror of Fate?

>>749780958
try the demo

>>749780925
>it wasn't really Castlevania because it was too slow, too intense, and just too hard.
??? Isn't this what faggots complain about CV all the time?

>>749781005
>Is shit better than piss?

>>749780958
As the guy who made the thread and went searching a bit more after that japanese review compilation another guy posted, seems like it really is just ass

>>749780958
Doesn't look bad, it looks like some random indie game. Branding it "castlevania" will just angry some people, really smart there Konami.

>>749780958
It's because of the story. The game is alright if buggy on pc with higher specs and feels really bad. Apparently the devs coded everything with Unity and locked the game refresh and fps rate to extreme poverty tier PC. If you have any modern pc or monitor the input lag and bugs will be extremely terrible. Have no idea why this is happening because other unity games don't have that issue

>>749781054
I'd say piss is way better than shit

>>749780958
It's okay.
There's a really blatant samefagging schizo obsessed with this game, like almost every series on /v/ nowadays. Spoiler alert, it's the guy posting the same "helpful" posts like clockwork as soon as he wakes up.

>>749781137
Then there you have it, mirror of fate is better.

>>749781114
>We have coded it so that the better your specs, the worse the performance
They should have been railed more for this but Steam reviews are already doing a good job shitting on the codes

>>749780958
it has mixed reviews on Steam.
That means it's dogshit.

>>749780560
I think they care about gameplay. I think that’s an absurd statement that they don’t.

>>749781273
The mixed reviews is because of the bugs not the gameplay. But bugs and performance are part of a launch too

>>749780958
is literally netflix tier garbage, son. if you know, no more needs to be said

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>>749780348
>...and so, it was a cursed object that lacked all the elements I was looking for

>>749780958
People are judging it based on the context of the rest of the franchise (which I guess you should). On its own it seems alright, but not groundbreaking and not even particularly special.

>>749780560
Music is good, but there isn't enough of it.

I wouldn't have any qualms against this game if it wasn't called Castlevania. I can't believe I'm turning to some scaliebait shit just to get my sotn fix

The game is out and still, noone is defending the game as good or great.
>fine
>okay
>decent
WEW

>Put a TIMED escape section into a platforming spike hell section after a grueling and boring boss fight.
Very cool game design you inbred retards.

Why the fuck is there wubstep in a Castlevania game, and why the fuck did they put wubstep in anything in 2026?

>>749779641
>looks kinda fun but not really very castlevania
like SotN! don't be afraid of change

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>>749783215
>a platforming spike hell section

ah yes the indie dev specialty

>>749779641
It is another indie game, competently made but if you've played a good amount of indie games you've already played this.
The Castlevania stuff is skin deep only.

>>749783158
I would go so far as to call it good.
It's biggest problem is that it doesn't really do much to stand out against it's contemporaries. Nothing's making me go "holy shit" like Dread or PoP Lost Crown did.
It's a solid metroidvania, I'm enjoying myself, but it's neither a continuation of what came before nor does it reinvent the gameplay enough to be the weird kind of interesting.

>>749783215
>filtered
lmoa

>>749783238
SotN had a bunch of Castlevania in it, for starters, the enemies were recognizable Castlevania monsters, the sprite work was similar to previous games (rondo), the music was composed by Michiru Yamane, who previously worked on Bloodlines, and it was developed directly by Konami, not outsourced to some retards.

Basically, you are a fucking retard and should kill yourself.

>>749783423
>the sprite work was similar to previous games (rondo)
"similar to" might not be the phrase you're looking for

>>749783527
Similar because they are not the same, the sprites of SotN are better in general and I'm not talking about the enemies, those are directly borrowed from previous games, I mean the stages and backgrounds.

>>749783597
So would you say that it doesn't count as Castlevania to you if it's not specifically SotN style sprite art?

>>749783215
If that's the one I think it is, you also have to actually finish off the boss at the end of that spike/wallcrush fuckfest. The timer keeps going during it as well.

I'm about to go fight Death and see what kinda shit I get from him. I'm hoping it's a fucking double jump because I've encountered a lot of shit in the zone he's in that needs it.

>>749783705
For it to be a Castlevania, it must have strong elements previously seen in other Castlevania games, even the PS2 3D games understand this.

I, for example, don't count 64 as a Castlevania game, that game is just some retarded experimental dogshit, just like Lords of Shadow. Those are merely Castlevania in name, but noting more, Belmont's curse will be added to that group of games that can't really be considered a Castlevania game in anything but name.

Anyone else feel the game is too linear

>>749779641
Nuke France.

>>749783238
SotN still largely played like Castlevania, had Castlevania music, the full gamut of Castlevania subweapons (and ammo), and classic Castlevania enemies and bosses. It was different for sure, but it still felt like part of the same series.

My initial impression is that its probably a perfectly fine Dead Cells followup but that's not what I wanted it to be, and I like Castlevania a lot more than Dead Cells

I dunno, to me, Castlevania is a series about spacing. You perfectly space and time your attacks to meet the enemy at the ideal position so you can fuck him up and stay safe. But you can't space shit in this game, and that's not what they want you to do.

The Estus Flasks and there not really being items also sucks. And goddamn that jump feels like shit. I really wanted to like this but at least right now its not happening.

>>749783936
I see. You certainly have discerning taste. Now, how important would you say it is that the game be made in Japan?

>>749783763
Yeah, I managed to do it with like literally 2 seconds left to spare.
Not even fun kind of challenging. Just a: "thank god this fucking gay nonsense is over with" level of relief.

I near fucking guarantee that this will be nerfed in a future patch where they'll either extend the timer or remove it entirely.

>>749784043
It must be made by Konami not outsourced, ironically enough, both Lord of Shadow and Belmont's Curse share that they were outsourced, not made by Konami themselves.

>>749779641
Castlevania died when Toru Hagihara stopped making them and left konami.

>>749779641
It's not castlevania, it's nu metroidvania indieslop

>>749784150
Interesting. And what if Konami closed down (not impossible, given the circumstances), and the rights went to another company?

>>749780560
>They don't care about gameplay or the plot,
Castlevania has never been about plot.
Plotfags are the fucking worst.

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Why can a zillion fucking literally who companies make a Castlevania game but the people who actually get the IP can't? What the fuck is happening there

ANOTHER FUCKING GAME LOST TO THE HOLLOWLIKE MEME

JUST END ME

>>749784198
Laugh at this time traveler from the 90s

>>749784235
they probably had zero freedom and everything was decided by konami
though also i dont think they give a shit about castlevania

>>749784286
Konami 100% have no input lmao
They just license shit out

>>749784235
When was the last time Konami made a game (and not a remaster)? Think even Silent Hill is outsourced nowadays, they straight up said they weren't going to make AAA games anymore, all their main devs make pachinkos now

>Get to work on classic beloved franchise
>Decide to change the beloved formula (that people love so much there's a new indie game copying it every ten minutes)

>Don't actually do anything new or innovative

Why. Like its okay I guess but

>>749784338
Well yeah they're not devs anymore, just an IP shop. Some of the shit they've whored out has been bretty gud, some of it is ass

>>749784259
>hollowlike

What?

>>749784338
They are a publisher these days. They have put out some good stuff like Delta.

>>749784558
Isn't Delta just Snake Eater with better graphics and a few bug fixes? Dunno, not much fond of remasters most of the time. If you are re-releasing something, you gotta add new things to make me purchase your stuff instead of the OG

>>749784194
As long as Konami runs yugioh and pachinko machines, they aren't going anywhere.
>the rights went to another company?
Then it depends on how they handle the brand, if they will try to stay true and respect the established lore, mechanics, visuals, ambiance, characters and general horror trope vibe of the franchise, then they could make a true Castlevania game, however Konami will never allow that, they are harder to kill than Dracula because they are powered by the japanese obsession with gambling they will never die as long as a japanese salary man want to see the balls roll, Konami might be retarded but they are not THAT retarded, is as unlikely as Capcom selling the megaman IP, Sega selling the Sonic IP or Nintendo selling the Mario IP, it is simply not gonna happen, they will all die with their respective IPs if they ever die.

Fuck this shit, I'm playing Lament of Innocence.

Why can't western vidya composers into melodies? It's always ambient shit.

>>749779641
It's got the meme IKEA do the devs job for them sliders. It's the new arachnophobia red flag. You can condense any game going forward into the junk bin by it's inclusion.

>>749784654
Last question, I promise. Thoughts on Bloodstained in relation to what counts as a real Castlevania? What do you consider more important, the developers who made the games or Konami and its IP?

>>749783423
It also had Ayami Kojima instead of tumblrite art making ugly girlboss

>>749784746
Explain why sliders are bad when the default difficulty exists

>>749784838
Cool then they don't need to be there right? Since the settings already exist. Unless the devs are complete windbags that aren't confident in what they designed ..

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>>749784624
It's more like sh2r if you choose to stick with the mew control scheme. But mainly it just looks fucking gorgeous.

>>749784717
The french could do it.
The River City Jews could do it
But yeah, western devs are often lazy with soundtracks, still dunno why you even have them competing in this GAW section, it's always a game with ONE decent track going against some Nintendo first-party game or some Atlus game and they lose somehow

>>749784510
indie devs take more inspiration from hollow knight than metroid and castlevania and honestly hollow like is more fitting because metroid and the older castlevanias a in a higher league than the games indie devs are shitting out

>>749779641
Honestly after watching some gameplay of it if the name wasn't tied to it I'd just think it was random indie MV #1349045355

>>749784750
Iga definitely knows how a Castlevania game must be structured and work, if you strip down the visuals, setting, and characters then down to the core, it is a true Castlevania, simply because mechanically it is identical to previous Castlevania titles, it follows the same rules and principles, and Bloodstained 2 doubles down on this because they are literally reusing enemies, like that floating pig enemy, they are building an identity they are making you go, "Oh yeah, this is a bloodstained enemy, I remember it from the first game" which is exactly what Castlevania built up with several years worth of entries and recycled content.

>>749784973
Yeahs thats the kicker
I dont think Id have given this the time of day if it wasnt called castlevania

>>749784717
Yeah the OST is a big miss

Wait, isn't this the new bionic commando?

>>749785118
It picks up later with a bloody tears remix but the game also turns into fucking celeste during it.

>>749779641
can you guys recommend some good metroidvania games closer to the DS games and symphony of the night?
i already played bloodstained, also please no hollow knight or hollow likes

>>749785471
This
>>749784235
It has good gameplay and its one of the largest metroidvanias I've ever played. The aesthetics aren't completely there for me though

9 Years of Shadows was okay I guess

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>>749784706
Based.

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>>749785471
This will not disappoint
Wish it was longer though

>>749785668
Isnt this tragedyslop

>>749783423
The original team and the director from the original Akumojo Dracula weren't involved. Therefore: Sotn is not a real castlevania, but just some developers' fan fiction.

Iga won. Bloodstained won.

>>749785731
What

>>749785731
Not really. It's melancholic and kind of depressing, but no actual tragedy occurs in the game and tou won't get the full context if you didn't read the manga or watch the anime anyways. It's also way more of a hollow like than belmont's curse so I have no idea what Anon's smoking.

The scalie castlevania with the Jojo battles is pretty fun. Hope it comes out soon.

Let me guess. People wanted another Bloodstained which felt like IGA's best hits remix edition (and was hella boring for it)?
I'm all for slamming a shit game if it's actually shit but saying "it's not muh Igavania" is just such uninteresting criticism

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>>749785471
This is more Classicvania with some lo
Iight exploration elements but it was bretty gud

>>749779703
I hope this shit isn't real, but seeing as everything is fucking stupid, I'm sure it is.

>>749783238
hey fuckhead I didn't like SotN either.

>>749785937
The sequel was waaay superior.

>>749785924
Bloodstained was great, just ugly

The Castlevania game this one most resembles is Mirror of fucking Fate. Honestly its not unplayable or anything but is has absolutely nothing of what I associate with Castlevania except the name and some gated exploration

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>Have Isaac in the game
>fight him not once but twice
>never not a single time he uses the laser sword or even summons a devil
>He isn't laughing like a psychopath 90% of the fights
>no insane aristocracy remix
What the fuck? This is character assassination on the level of the Netflix show.

Why have Isaac if he isn't going to do his insane antics? I wanted to see how badly they butchered this track, but they didn't even attempt it and instead used some generic dubstepslop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWma5nZ3tMw

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I don't see anyone talk about this so I think it might be me problem, but I hate this single color background and it is in everystage
>start with red and black
>go to sewer
>green and black
>go up city
>orange and black
>go to lush/forest area
>yellow and black
It look so shitty and it make me upset.

>>749786073
The actual designs are gorgeous, but the Paris sections are easily the worst. I think the graveyard looks a lot prettier.

>>749785924
IF I WANTED A MODERN METROIDVANIA I HAVE ENDLESS SHIT TO CHOOSE FROM
CLASSICVANIAS ARE A BIT MORE COMMON

BUT BARELY ANYONE IS MAKING IGAVANIAS ANYMORE

AND THE WORST PART THIS GAME DOESNT EVEN TRY ITS BEST AND IS MIDDLE OF THE PACK IN TERMS OF WUALITY

>>749783238
I love Symphony and all, but I'm more of a classicvania fan (I replay Super IV and/or Luigi's Mansion every October). It's a shame that the new game is an exaggeration of the RPG style games than the obstacle course games, but I'm sure it's fine in its own right. Maybe I'll pick it up on a deep sale. Still need to play the DS titles, for some reason I've been putting them off for decades. Perhaps it's finally time.

>>749785937
i didnt get the true end but it was fun

>>749786113
>BUT BARELY ANYONE IS MAKING IGAVANIAS ANYMORE
Bloodstained 2 is literally coming out next year

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>>749786102
My point is it does have to be this way

>>749786113
>BUT BARELY ANYONE IS MAKING IGAVANIAS ANYMORE
What do you consider an Igavania? Just SotN clone? Because if it's Bloodstainedlikes there's a fuckton of them out there.

>>749783238
No, not like SotN you triple nigger. It's like Mario titans being an astrobot clone that looks like shit too.

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what the fuck are these system reqs, why does a 2D metroidvania that looks uglier than a GBA game require 16GB of RAM minimum

>>749786226
16gb is the bare minimum for any game these days Anon...

>>749786202
Yeah I know retard.

>>749786214
Everything Iga made for Castlevania. The Sorrows are still the best.

>>749786226
It also crash any top tier spec due to coding so you know it's good

>>749785907
I've never played Hollowknight so I guess I don't know what that means

>>749786214
Not that anon but can you give me some Bloodstainedlikes to play

>>749780348
>In reality, it's a watered-down version of Assassin's Creed Chronicles
Damn, that's it. I was wondering what it reminded me of.

>>749780348
>Castlevania isn't just about Koji Igarashi, it also includes Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane
Most based thing I read today

>>749779641
You won't be getting old-school castlevanias anymore (with the new post-Dark Souls and post-Hollow Knight style being the new school).
Part of it is the fact that they're not made for fixed-resolution displays anymore, so you'll never have the crispy pixel style back.
A separate part is the genrewide estus flask system, since it explicitly changes what the exploration rewards really mean. In older games you had findable (droppable) consumable healing as a resource pool, so bosses you easily won against let you spend more on harder ones. In those you had an elastic scale of skill, in newer like the adjacent Blasphemous, estus says you are required to git gud at all of them.

>>749785937
And it also has a killer OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ceXCC2jf2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgyWTp7_ORA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGi6td2x5pY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PX3uIGF9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOKd4IVvmuI

Absolutely wild for what is basically a softcore erotic game spinoff.

>>749779703
You know, I understand the sentiment they were going for here, but they probably shouldn't have had these lines coming from a snotty, unlikeable lesbian.

>turn Leon into buff bara shit
>he is le cursed! And Rose help him!
Character assassination in highest degree

>>749780348

>That first quote

Jesus lol

>>749786454
Suffer like G....
Music reminds me of House of the Dead 2&3 Return for Nintendo Wii

>>749785937
inticreates is the king of "it was pretty good i guess" 2D games. they're not castlevania-likes but i'd recommend gunvolt and blaster master zero games too

>>749779703
It reads like they're talking past each other. Maybe that's the point with the delivery, like Dracula is trying to interrupt Rose Belmont, but the choice of words and punctuation don't seem to suggest that one is ever trying to talk over the other.

>>749784654
Konami hasn't been a pachinko and gambling company for a while (that might change in 2030). Do you know what the saddest part is? They are whoring out their IPs to the highest bidder so that they don't take a financial hit while they rebuild their own gaming studio in Osaka.

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>>749779703
>Rose: dracula, I will show those chuds the dawn
>*The camera zooms in to Dracula's face as he looks directly at the player*
>Dracula: is this bitch for real?
>*the camera zooms out*
>Rose: we must be better belmont

>>749786312
there's also that bootleg sorrows game that got a few threads here, so that's two igavanias coming out soon™

Is the game pozzed or no?

>>749786045
Because they don't know who Isaac is. They just know he's a character from the show they can use, and the gay people who watched the show will buy the game. You think they bothered to even Google curse of darkness when making this game? At least fucking Hector didn't show up because you know they would have fucked him up too a la nigflix

>>749780335
>let's wait for an even more generic slop

>>749786593
Found the song.
https://youtu.be/aoZXyp-vPMw?si=eTEUuwfDrPgNHEP6

>>749785471
Astalon: tears of the earth
Infernax
Chasm

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>we want more "igavania"
>see last release
>nobody bought the game
>nobody play the game
You did this to yourself.
If you played her game maybe you would have a new one, but you did not.
Konami is right.

>>749786990
I played her game, in fact, I have replayed her game countless times.

>>749786990
We did have new one thoughover

>>749786990
Her game is kino and I did play it

>>749786990
I emulated her game. It is my favourite Castlevania.

>>749787036
Then why is it the less popular of all titles?
I will tell you why, because at some point people got bored with the formula. People didn't want more because they had enough.

>>749786827
Which one?

>>749786847
No. Main character is a girlboss, but the story portrays her as a retard.

>>749787173
Explain that to the literal thousand of clones made afterwards, OoE is part of the games that spawned the metroidvania genre.

>>749779641
It's a tranny knight clone

>>749787097
Her game is kino but most people didn't play it.
That is exactly why Konami did not make a similar one.
You cannot ask a company to create a game that will without any doubt sell like shit.

>>749786990
This was seriously one of the best fucking games I've ever played
Of course I was like 20 when it came out

>>749786937
The gayest part of this game is there is no castle crumbling scene, it just get suck into hell dimension

>>749787173
The least popular are the original Castlevanias. 2, 3 especially. They are games for gamers, but not for casuals. The DS collection are hella normie territory, and more people have played the modern side scrolling Castlevanias than the Nintendo Entertainment System games 2, and 3.

>>749787227
>OoE is part of the games that spawned the metroidvania genre
What the fuck are you talking about?

Maybe get it at 50% off next year’s Halloween

I just want everyone in this thread to know that Lord of Shadow is highest selling Castlevania game :)

>>749787365
Exactly what you heard, Metroidvania is a pretty recent genre, probably the most recent kind besides Friendslop.

Basically, there were only very few metroidvanias when OoE was released, but now there are quite literally thousands.

>>749787362
>The least popular are the original Castlevanias
Original Castlevania is among the top played game and on every compilation you can find.
I agree for 2 but does this it really count, it's pretty bad to play.

>>749787425
It also killed Castlevania.

>>749784132
There's no real point to the timer, either. It just pops up after you deal with the second phase. I can definitely see them eliminating it, or, if they do keep it, they'll tone down that vertical section with all of the fists and crumbling platforms.

>>749779703
Woman moment
Dracula was able to outlive her and every other of her descendants minus Julius
He was 100% right in this exchange

>>749787362
The least popular cv games are chronicles, legends, and the adventure and that's not even counting shit like kid dracula and haunted castle

Dracula has Leon as a brainwashed bara fury slave for 400 years. Do you think he fucked Leon at any point within those centuries?

>>749779641
>What’s up with the new castlevania?
it's coming out in 2027 so nothing much yet

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SHAWWW

>Belmont after Leon is born to whip dracula back to chaos cotton field
>Rose start with sword
One fucking job, it's like they want to be different for the sake of being different

>>749787726
"Go to Hell"

>>749780958
there's a demo and the full game's already available at a 100% discount

>>749788025
>already available at a 100% discount
Still way more than it's worth, thoughbeit

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I'm playing Lament of Innocence and the gameplay feels really reminiscent of MT Framework Devil May Cry games. Especially the camera work and the 'gravity' of jumps.

I like it :)

>>749787890
I wonder what percentage of CV protags don't start with a whip, because I feel like it's not an insignificant amount.

Leon getting corrupted doesn't bother me since Richter already set the precedent for that. But what leaves a bad taste in my mouth is Dracula just turning him into a mindless slave.
Leon and Mathias were BFFs that had the same kind of tragedy happen to them. In Lament of Innocence's ending, Mathias even extended a hand for him in sharing his eternity of spite against god. Showing that he still viewed Leon as a friend in equal standing. There's a whole Dio vs Jonathan kind of respect in their rivalry. Leon choosing to remain human and declaring that his kin will fight Dracula forever shows the difference in their beliefs despite coming from the same place. But then with this game, we learn that Matthias turned Leon into his brainless boytoy. And now they're both way lamer for it.

Leon is apparently weak-willed enough to be made Mathias' bitch. If they really wanted to show the risks of too much zealotry, they could've still made Leon a rogue corrupted monster that fights Dracula with little care for collateral damage. And Dracula, who seemingly had some kind of James Bond villain level of standards and classiness is apparently petty enough to defile and make a mindless buttslut puppet of the man he once viewed as his equal. It's practically a woman moment of him being upset that Leon rejected his offer during the end of Lament of Innocence and now he's tormenting Leon for it.

>>749779641
I mean, it's made by devs that are CV "fans" only in the name. They originally made a shit rouge-lite-like game with near non-existent level design, moveset that has ZERO commitment (can cancel out of anything at any time, can parry anything at any point) and basically half of the game is just collab slop items and le epic viking chant loot RNG loot boxes to get le epic borderlands styled loot with 101% chance of getting sick stat effect.
It's literary Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z-styled 2010 game all over again, meaning west-cuck developer that is embarrassed by making japanese style game, so everything has to be coated in 10 layers of irony and random meme references.

>>749788096
Most of those were usually non-Belmont and Leon who didn't have the whip yet

>>749781143
Yeah, but I've been asleep for the last 8 hours and the game is still getting shit on, so what now?

>>749788102
>a woman moment of him being upset that Leon rejected his offer during the end of Lament of Innocence and now he's tormenting Leon for it.
lmao.

>>749788102
The church was always the tempering factor to the Belmonts' zeal. But it's current year, and church bad, so you will never, ever see that again.

Dracula should be black

>>749780958
It's literally dead cells 2 with jump puzzles through every 2 meters.

Do people actually find these spike precision platform sections fun?

Even when corrupted, Richter at least got to dress up in nice clothes and got to larp as the master of Dracula's castle as the (fake) Final Boss.
Leon literally became a hobo BDSM slave dressed up in rags that got wrecked as the tutorial boss.

>>749788340
I mean, at least in shit like Celeste or Hollowkike you have free form movement but in this shit you stuck with grappling points so it's just on rail point A to B 90% of the time

>>749779641
It's a modern metroidvania, so fighting is an afterthought to all the parkour shit with spikes.
The music is (compared to the franchise it's apart of) extremely ass and forgettable, the enemy variety is pretty damn low even for a metroidvania, and the visual color palleted is interchangeable with any gothic fantasy game as opposed to being Castlevania.
In a vacuum, I probably wouldn't have played it over any other metroidvania. I can't say I'm disappointed as this is what I was expecting.

>>749788436
Also, it's specifically Leon Belmont, which anyone knows is basically Konami still crying about IGA to this day. The fact that they had the new angry lesbian that is totally going to save castlevania utterly override everything he says with a "well, actually sweaty, hunting the night is BAD, be BETTER" is further proof.

Unfortunately for them, they're gonna find out that irritating lesbians aren't a great way to carry on a legacy, be it in the fictional Belmont family tree, or real life sales figures

Playing right after finishing Astalon (my favorite MegamanTroidvNia-like) is hurting my soul
It's so ass

>>749788659
The same, but with toziuha night, and that one isn't even that great. Still miles better than this.

At least I learned about elegy of sanctity in a thread yesterday, so I will play that instead

>'demon' attacking french and burn their city
>actually it's people from the inside who cause 'demon' to show up
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>749788895
Not going to lie, it's been years of seeing these edits and they still get a chuckle out of me.

>>749788842
>actually it's not about fighting immigration
>it's about not fighting and being more welcoming so that they replace you without violence

Do any of the other subweapons show up or is it just the cross?

Just got to the castle. The rendition of the theme is kino. However I think the combat is way too fucking hard. Enemies attack so often and have soluch massive range it's hard to get a good hit in. Also I still haven't increased my hp bar lmao

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>>749789537
Are these actual extensive weapons or largely basic spells

>>749789608
They act like sub weapons in classicvania.

>>749780441
looks like a cell phone game

>>749780958
I generally like platforming heavy metroidvanias like Grime 2, but i physically couldn't stomach more than 3 hours of belmont's curse because it's just a non stop spikeslop vomit with a terrible ost and floaty combat where the camera is so zoomed out and the screen is so full of special effects i can barely even see when enemies attack me.

>Joan of Arc is a virtuous, proud warrior to whom Rose shows utter deference because she's so noble and amazing
>King Arthur is a mad "comic relief" boss who spouts kooky chungus non-sequiturs

The French are still so bitter, even after more than a thousand years.

>>749780441
/v/ pretending this doesnt look cool as fuck lmao

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>>749785449
>It picks up later with a bloody tears remix
No it lets you down with a bloody tears remix, shit sucks

>>749788926
I've never understood the joke. I just see them in CV threads and acknowledge them as a sogn that the fanbase is still alive.

>>749789537
Which are Holy Water and the Axe?

>>749791792
If you don’t see them, then they don’t exist.

Based Konami killing Castlevania with an actual videogame instead of a lame Pachinko machine I can't pirate.

I FUCKING LOVE DOZENS OF TIMED SPIKE ROOMS WITH GAJILLION LASERS AND SHITTY GRAPPLING MECHANICS

I LOVE BEING AN EPIC GAME LEVEL DESIGNER.

>>749779703
>Ummm saaaar actually the blood drinking Slav is right and should kill the Stacey
This board is fucking retarded

>>749780441
I didn't like the OST but that Talost wubstep song is kino tho

>>749779641
Anon. Symphony of the Night isn't "a real Castlevania". Certainly not the type your stupid ass chose to use as OP pic. It's nostalgia poisoning and just /v/ being the shithole it always is.

>>749795009
Dracula was right tho, rose did jackshit, as long as humans exist dracula will also exist because the darkness is part of mankind and ultimately darkness is what keeps reviving dracula infinitely.

>>749795921
'cept it didn't and in the game canon Dracula's defeat is literally his own incarnation deciding to reject the darkness, helped out by Alucard and Julius.

>>749796026
Until aliens revive him.

>>749795872
You absolute nigger.

Real Castlevania = castlekinos I like
Fake Castlevania = castleslop I dislike
Simple as.

>>749796610
How very graceful of you, you sure showed me the error of my ways, but sadly I'm still right. Back when "IGA raped the series with this ugly 3D shit" and before that with Lords of Shadow (admittedly this one was justified). /v/ has always hated everything that's not a carbon copy of an old thing. We have "people" shilling that furry game that looks like a SotN romhack for fucks's sake.

>>749786990
I played it on release in 2008.

I lost interest as soon as I saw it was an attempt at an Igavania game instead of a classicvania game

>>749796883
>Back when "IGA raped the series with this ugly 3D shit" and before that with Lords of Shadow (admittedly this one was justified).
big castlevania superfan thinks that Lords of Shadow came out before LoI or CoD.

go away, shill

>>749780560
ah yes you totally play castlevania for the plot and the stilted gameplay lmao

>>749796883
also castlevania romhacks and fangames (SOTN included) are based as fuck. Get the fuck out of here, bellend

>>749789928
there's an accessibility option to add outlines to your character and enemies, you should try it

>>749786990
I bought her collection on Steam and Nintendo Switch when it launched. I thought Konami would learn...

>>749779641
So it's like Elden Ring which isn't really very Dark Souls?

>>749781449
Where are the gay and black people?

>>749779703
>Rose: And if I can, anyone can.
ROSE NO! YOU ARE A UNIQUE STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN! ONLY YOU CAN DO IT! NOT ANYONE! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY MARY SUE MC IS RUINED!

>>749800000
what a wasted get

I would have preferred a Dead Cells 2 instead of this...

>>749798661
I don't know why people should be punished for paying attention to storyline and plot points, particularly when they're using the Castlevania name to sell their game. And the sparse world building we got from other games is surely superior to breaking up gameplay to have 5 minute meandering cutscenes with awful voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9zyDbITiFI&t=27390s

>>749786454
This game is awesome, it's one of my top 3.

>>749786990
Why do you like Ecclesia so much? Aren't the weapons really boring?

>>749788340
No, they are shit. Can't sequence break anything.

Play The Adventure Rebirth.

>>749795872
>Nooooo old bad new good
Kek

>>749786990
They Mega Man'd Castlevania. Churning out a new game every year only works for cultist fanbases like Pokémon or sports games.

>>749780958
it's a 7/10 game. better than the ps2vanias and the n64 one. Way better than the lord of shadows slop. inferior to the igavanias.
/v/ is being contrarian as usual.

So is ANY of this shit about Leon being cursed and we must be better Belmonts even fucking REAL? You faggots fall for fake leaks and lies all the time without fact checking.

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>>749779641
>looks kinda fun but not really very castlevania?
It's not castlevania at all, it plays exactly like dead cells, which isn't bad, when it doesn't have the CASTLEVANIA NAME!
this game is a braindead button masher with no strategy just like dead cells, enemies can't flinch, they always get the first strike unless you use the shitty parry, spells have insane ending lag which always get you punished because you cannot cancel the animation, weapon variety never happens until 80% into the game, barely any character dialogue (you enter the castle and there's barely any story) BARELY any warp points at all, BARELY any save points at all and they're FAR AWAY FROM THE BOSS ROOMS, WHAT THE FUCK!?
It has a lot of flaws, the new movement is good but this ain't no castlevania at all
They should've given the game to the blasphemous developers, they're not perfect but at least the combat wouldn't have been a braindead button masher and the music would've been good
Oh yes, the music is not good, it sounds like roguelike shit, they should've gotten Carlos viola and the blasphemous team for this game
Bloodstained did it better... at least they acknowledge the lore
Rose should've look more feminine...
IGA already had a perfect formula everyone uses and they threw it away

>>749804942
It's entirely real, but we knew that since it was ripped from the data files.

>>749804773
>lament of innocence
>curse of darkness
>legacy of darkness
>bad
are you a retard or a child?

Guys, Death is kicking my ass

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>>749804942
Leon is cursed and turned into barafag is real

>>749806196
>>749805695
You are both lying grifters

>>749806196
twink death more like twink lycanthropy

>>749806243
you are trying way too hard

>>749806196
they could just make him like dark knight or something, but they chose monkey hobo man

>>749806196
What's the better man dialogue like? How hard did they massacre him?

>>749806196
My question is why even have this plot at all. What purpose or use is there in bringing back this character to portray him as an accursed beast who somehow lacked necessary virtues to be a Better Man

>>749806196
>The hand is RED and it's his RIGHT hand. Get it? GET IT?!
The lack of subtly is incredible. The French truly are the world's retards.

>>749806937
What does "red" and "right" mean in your context?

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>>749779703
What's wrong with this? It's pretty standard castlevania writing and it's literally the point of the series, Dracula says he's only ever brought back because of evil of men , seems straight forward for a story to make that a point in writing.
Why shouldn't you want to strive to make humanity better?

>>749806670
because Konami is bitter about IGA, and Leon is IGA's invention as the origin story. So they're dismantling his legacy.

>>749807230
it's the fact that this new character is now instrumental in being the one who somehow discovered the means to destroy him 300 years later, with no actual explanation either just femoid vibes

>>749807292
This anon actually gets it.

>>749807328
Castlevania is full of retcons.

>>749807328
Ah so it's a legacy of kain ascendance scenario? Yeah that's pretty meh fair enough
You'd really expect people to learn how to write new characters better by today's standards, I'll check it out

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>>749780441
>Character grunting with every fucking attack
Why does this still exist

>>749806670
the worst part is he actually play nothing in grand scheme he is just so le weak that he got cursed and cured in just this game

>>749788340
I don't think I have ever played a single game where I have enjoyed precision platforming

>>749807479
Yep. Though just like Ascendance, it doesn't matter if they're written poorly, just that they are written in so people can point to it and say "uhh no sweaty, actually it's this cool dyke that did everything"

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Its a fun game but its not anything like the Igavanias, its just Dead Cells but not a Roguelike. I really like Dead Cells and we already have Bloodstained for a continuation of the Iga games so I dont really mind. I think it being a Castlevania game is almost a disservice though because it draws direct comparisons to SOTN and its just not the same kind of game as that.

Its very clear the audience they're going for with the presentation is people who havent played the other Castlevania games and know Castlevania from the TV series. Which makes sense for them because the last 2D Castlevania game was Order of Ecclesia which came out 16 years ago.

So even though I know I shouldnt compare this to old Castlevanias when its a brand new team and this new game does its own thing just fine, it is a little bit hard not to.

>>749806196
They really hate beauty huh? Everything must be ugly and blocky

>>749796026
What Rose said has nothing to do with Dracula getting purified by a japanese pussy.
Though I dont see too much of an issue of the exchange between Rose and Dracula.

>>749807731
>Which makes sense
Normally I would agree with you, but the people that watched the castlevania series either did it because it was pushed onto the front page of netflix and they wanted background noise, or they saw a twitter post about the black vampire woke show du jour.

None of those people are paying 24.99 for a video game and playing it for more than an hour. They're just never going to do that. Konami threw away their fanbase..to court someone else's on a different medium.

It's hilarious to me. They could have gotten ONE PERSON to make a new trilogy in the same vein as the DS games, and it would have been eaten up by fans, by indie game fans, by anyone who bought into the "this is an old style game from when you were a kid" aesthetic of it. They could have printed fucking money.

But they hate IGA, he made them look like idiots, and japanese companies are run on spite

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>>749807731
>very clear the audience they're going for with the presentation is people who havent played the other Castlevania games and know Castlevania from the TV series.
Yeah they did explicitly say that

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The worst part of the game to me that I haven't seen anyone talking about is the grappling hook feels like shit. It's not physics based or momentum based it just automatically hones you in to a fixed location every time. It feels like Stray where you press a button and the game plays a cutscene of you jumping instead of actually letting you jump.

>>749808014
>They could have gotten ONE PERSON to make a new trilogy in the same vein as the DS games,

You say this like its easy but its not, Igavania games realistically should be dogshit by every metric but Igavania has the magic sauce to make them work. I absolutely love SOTN but that game is a hot fucking mess of horrible level design and repetitive enemy encounters with braindead easy combat. The only reason Iga games are so fun is because he's so good at cultivating an atmosphere and so good at adding tons of fun abilities for the player to abuse. There have been attempts at Igavanias in the indie space and they've all failed because quite literally nobody can do it like him.

In their mind they found an established Metroidvania dev in Motion Twin and considered it a safe bet, probably letting them do their own thing.

>>749808260
>You say this like its easy but its not
I dunno, I would have thrown money at the one guy who made astalon and castle in the darkness. Matt Karp, I think?

But my point is that there are SO SO many choices they could have made, and they didn't make them because they don't like IGA and they think people watching netflix are gonna play their game.

The real question is...why wouldn't they get IGA to do it?

>>749808056
I already post about it, it's not a real platforming, you just press a button to zoom to the designated point, pretty much 0 creativity in platformer

>>749808260
>There have been attempts at Igavanias in the indie space and they've all failed

I don't think I have played a bad indie IGAvania btw. Can you name some?

>>749806168
Finally beat him, easily the best bossfight so far. The fight is gonna filter so many people though, the attack where you have to move between his slashes is absurd, def going to get nerfed.

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>>749804942
Parts of it are real, but there's also a lot being exaggerated to turn this game into yet another culture war thing.
>Rose does not "come up with the plan to destroy Dracula"
>she doesn't denounce Leon's hunt the night thing or do any Better Men shit
>Leon wasn't cursed for his misdeeds or whatever the fuck, he was old and tired and Dracula used that opportunity to take over his mind in a moment of weakness
>Rose isn't a girlboss but is explicitly a huge fuckup who can't control her emotions
But deboonking doesn't matter. The ESL will just reply with "actually it is true" with the same images, and he'll do it again for every Castlevania thread until the end of time because threadshitting schizophrenia is not only allowed here, but encouraged.

>>749808056
Agreed, what we really needed was the John Morris swing from Bloodlines that can attach to any ceiling.

>>749808467
Dawn of Sorrow is pretty weak sauce, but mostly because of art style being MEGA negative

>>749808056
I mentioned it barely >>748892648
It's hilarious how they had a perfect example from OOE and decided to just do the bare minimum instead of improving it. Taking away all of the control and flexibility and made one of their game main features into basically a simplified mini qte.

>>749808440
ESL

>>749808523
Death 1 or Death 2?
The only good boss fught in this game is the time nigga's second fight.

>>749808532
>Leon wasn't cursed for his misdeeds or whatever the fuck
It says several times that he became an overzealous monster
>>Rose isn't a girlboss but is explicitly a huge fuckup who can't control her emotions
No, she literally faces down everything because she's so cool, snarks at king arthur. The only reverence she shows is to the OTHER girlboss, joan of arc.

You're full of shit.Lying shill.

>>749808632
There is a death 2? Or do you mean the scripted loss fight?

>>749808583
I remember being around for this one. It's a real shame because DoS is a fantastic game, and infinitely replayable. It's not an indie IGAvania though. I assumed you meant games in a similar style made by other devs

>>749808746
The second encounter yeah.

>>749808831
Okay, yeah I meant Death 2 then, the fight was great, why don't you like about it?

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>>749808763
my brain skipped the indie part, probably grime 2, the biggest spikeslop of all indie metroidvania

>>749780734
Wow Imagine if they had combined castlevania with castlevania.

>>749808941
Too brainless for me desu. I think the problem is the pattern just instantly clicked in my head so I never got to appreciate it.

Look forward to the time nigga's real boss fight.

>>749806637
There's nothing like wolverine shit, it's just they are trying to play as Rose losing her composure because dracule curse, and Leon being voice of reason, the problem is, Rose is such a blackhole of a personality, so when start throwing tantrum it feels like out of nowhere

>>749779641
I put an hour into it, It doesn't feel like a CV game. They're just something off with the weight of the character off, how pulled back the camera, no push back on getting hit is fucking me up I end up taking more damage because I'm just standing there with no visual indication that I'm taking damage.

And in a 2d game like this where you can't zone your enemies the heal should be instant.

>first new castlevania in 17 yearssssss
Konami really wanting to bury their grimoire of souls embarrassment

>>749781005
I liked Mirror of Fate more.

>>749809295
>where you can't zone your enemies
you very much can once you have the cross or spear which you get really early

>>749809347
There's like 30 mobile games and a Wiiware game and a Haunted Castle remake that came with the Advance collection between BC and Lords DS

>>749780785
Castlevania has been the most mid series and I can't believe it has lasted 40 years. SotN was something new and that stands out as the best entry in the series because they tried all new shit, so they probably expected to do the same here. They should be experimenting constantly, not making the same old bullshit of the last few decades.

>>749781059
>that japanese review compilation another guy posted
link it