Why do millions of people play gacha games when the monetization is so bad?
>>749808302Play?
>>749808302You know you dont have to spend money on them right? Literally nothing is stopping you from not wasting money on their optional skins or whatever and every gacha ever lets you save up free resources for rolls
I think "people" is a generous term here.
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>>749808302>hank hill ass
>>749808302because I'm free to pay for what I want
>>749808302Some humans need to spend money in order to cum
>why play something that is free?
>>749808418This argument doesn't hold up at all when the games are designed to feel like shit if you don't spend money. Before you say that doesn't matter, it clearly does since the gacha industry makes billions of dollars.
>>749808302I literally can't spend all the money I make from my job so I'm free to buy whatever TF I want including assembling Team Shota through degenerate gambling in any game with cute enough shotas.
>>749808647we know, that's why people of the future will rid of this pathetic system >>749808571
>>749808302You just attached a video of why. If you wondered why there hasn't been a huge push to get Sony/Nintendo/Steam to relax their anti-ecchi policies, it's because doing so would actually hurt gachashit sales.
>>7498083020 ass
>>749808302You can do most of the content in gacha games as a F2P with zero hassle. P2W only hits in whale content where you have like five minutes to beat a bunch of enemies.Stamina can be a problem in the early going, but if you keep playing every day, you'll hit a point where it's basically never a major issue.
>>749808589>>749810015As it should be.
>>749808589>>749810015If you need more ass than that you aren't white
>>749808302>irrelevant time wasting questionwhat game is this
>>749808302I used to play ZZZ but they introduced too many loli characters. Too many promotions for the child like angels team, and then another new kid looking one this month. Screw that. Why are these games so oriented towards pedos? I thought China was supposed to be based?Burnice was cool, a hot blond with flamethrowers that drinks. I'm in. Then this year has just been pedo shit nonstop. Pic related. Fucking how is this the same game? I don't want a bathing suit skin for a fucking kid.
>they introduced too many loli characters
>>749809179Except that they always have to live in fear of this culture of censorship coming for their games. Which it does routinely, and there's no telling when they might get Snowbreak'd. Not to mention that it stops you from just focusing on your customers, which can cause major friction that's been known to kill studios (even if they try to find reasons to blame that aren't this). Having a bunch of slimy, sanctimonious, hypocritical censors all across a creative industry is obviously a major hazard.This industry needs to stop being so shortsighted and deal with its problems. Also, getting people back into buying retail titles is more sustainable long term as the gacha space gets more crowded.
>>749808302cute butt
>>749808302they're golems, nothing more. they don't think about the gameplay, the quality of it or anything else, they just see a thing they like "hot anime bitches" and their brain instantly turns off.and then there are false arguments like >>749808418, which are meant to trick you into playing the game. if you turn the game on, there's a non-zero chance that you will get annoyed with the f2p progression and end up spending money. "you know it's free, right?" is literally a drug dealer tactic.there's much more to it but i can't be fucked to write a long paragraph after a day of work so there
>>749811101youre trying way too hard
>>749811101but yuri can't be pedo, CHUD
>>749808302>gacha trannies be like yo this skin is fire when the girl who uses it doesn't have tits or ass
>>749808302>when the monetization is so bad?A lot of them (certainly not all of them) have perfectly reasonable f2p playability. many of them even have reasonable monetization if you have self control. They all prey on people with poor self control though. I have played gachas for almost 15 years and have spent a grand total of $100 and it was all on the first one I played before I learned how they scam you.
>>749811252So your opinion would change if these hot anime girls were in high quality traditional retail titles? No? Didn't think so. I don't play games that I'm not having fun with even if the girls are hot, and Genshin clones are successful because they're fun.You'll say whatever is necessary to stomp out media that's aimed at heterosexual men without taking Karen's drama into account. You're a snake and a cuck. The world was a much happier place when people like you were ignored.
>>749808302I wouldn't call $5 a month bad. I know there are whales, but you don't need to spend like them to do well.>>749811101Epstein already proved the only thing the west thinks of children is what they can do to them that makes demons scared. For all the talk of hunting pedophiles remember that not one island goer has faced justice.
>>749810860>>749810959literal>>749810860 faggots or pedos
>>749811101>sees short character>starts thinking about fucking children
>>749808302>milk tits>no assffs asia
The gacha I play has good monetization. It's not ch*nese after all.
>>749808571fixed
>>749812260>condomnope
if your gacha ain't 3D, it ain't for me
>>749808571>>749812316Said the people who want policy to be written around Karen's eye rolls.
>>749812445holy
>>749808302those """""people""""" need to be genocided
>>7498124452d can show more detail
>>749812551The world has gotten so much happier and more functional since people who think like you took over.
>>749808302I play gachas because I want sexy designs in my games, once money isn't an issue you can just look at ass and titties all day.>But the gameplayModern game gameplay sucks too, I've played most of the good old games, I'm almost 50.>But the storyModern story sucks even more.
>>749812486I don't know what imaginary opponent you're arguing with in your head, but good luck
>>749812730>the detail in question
There's not enough text in 4chan posts to detail every little bit of kikery Gachas take from the regular industry on top of their own brand of tricks. It's simpler to just make disingenuous posts defending them instead.
>>749812962The main reason why people go after sexy content aimed at men is because they're trying to earn women's approval. And these women tend to be massive hypocrites who 100% want to see idealized men in their media, which these cucks don't have a problem with, at least not to the extent that they want to kill the women who read 50 Shades of Grey and have the books banned. In other words, yes, you're writing policy around Karen's eye rolls.Even if you look back at the Satanic panic of the 80s and 90s, the uniting theme of what they went after was things that guys did for fun. Tabletop games, videogames, UFC (this is why Donald Trump and Dana White are good friends; UFC was being besieged by John McCain and Trump help fend him off), horror movies, rock music, etc. Same dance, different song. The censors aren't driven by anything more high-minded than Karen's envy and lust for control and they don't deserve any respect.
>>749811941>>749812445God I love big titties
>>749808302>Why do millions of people play gacha games when the monetization is so bad?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu2OYcgr4rM
>>749808693Not all gacha games are the same when it comes to gameplay. Gameplay quality is not always tied to spending. They can feel fine to play for free, or shit to play for free.. or hell, why not shit to play either way. All options are possible.You're conflating two different things. "I feel like shit if I don't spend because my mental weakness is being taken advantage of" is different from "this game feels like shit to play if you don't buy the latest character". The former is a personal problem and the latter is a game design problem.
Game?
>>749808693They make a billion dollars because it's the millionaire players funding most of it, retard.
>>749812730Can 2D do this?Didn't think so faggot.
>>749813839This idea that its only the 0.001% of gigawhales funding the game and the 99.999% are just F2P goodboys who dindu nuffin is completely fucking bullshit.
>>749808302because the tits and ass is worth it
star savior is still alive?
>>749813919It's not that extreme, but basically the concept does apply. Most people (who spend) spend very little. Like maybe 5-20 dollars a month and then there's the dolphins and whales which are very small in number but spend ridiculous numbers in comparison. The vast majority of players are either completely f2p or the small monthly spending type.
>>749813919You probably can't comprehend that to a rich person spending $500 on a gacha is the same as you buying a hamburger for $5. You just don't understand the scale of money. Obviously it's not as extreme as you make it to be, but every single player would have to pay a $50++ monthly subscription to make up for the whales in a world without MTX, and that number would grow for every poor person not able to afford it
>>749808302south east asians and the chinese arent people
>>749808302They're brown
>>749811581>So your opinion would change if these hot anime girls were in high quality traditional retail titles?yeah, that's exactly it, glad you figured it out>You'll sayschizo larp, get help
>>749808302You could just play Dragonsword.
>>749808302What's the fucking game, you suck as a marketer anon.
>>749813186game?
>>749815738the girls are beautiful and it's competently made, however you can tell it was originally a gacha gameand since it could earn a lot more money as a gacha, nobody will make these kinds of games
>>749815738>Pagpag ML gamenah, no male chars and I'll reconsider it
>>749808302I've played 2-3 gachas over years and I've still spent less than I would have on a single new game released during that time period. Gachas respect your money more than every other type of game currently being made despite them explicitly being gambling simulators
>>749815885Yeah, but I still like it for what it is.
>>749814614Higher iq than White people and earn more than Whites in America and Europe. Commit less crime as well and have a lower rate of welfare usage.
>>749815879Star Savior. It is a gacha so don't bother.
I didn't know this gacha at all.It looks good, whats the catch? horrible rates or horrible gameplay?
>>749815738fun game
I have some korean co-workers who only play gacha and from what I've gleaned they only play gacha games. I think a lot of gachafags just don't play videogames and don't know how bad they have it.
>>749808302millions must be squeezed dry of their monetary value by capitalist overlords
>>749808302I just comb through these threads and watch zzz character demos.
>>749816226I'm brown, and I know this didn't use to be the case for whites back in the 50s. I blame the jewish led media.
>>749808418>>749808693Gentlemen, I present to you the correct answer.You do not need to owe the Yakuza a sex change operation and a decade of cam whoring. You can in fact easily enjoy gacha games with the resource boosting monthly pass. I play two and it costs me 20 quid a month. Easily affordable, but just to prove a point I slightly cut back on my smoking and now that pass is free.
>>749816362Worse, it was being run by retards until just a few months go.
>>749808302Why do millions of people gamble when the return rate is so bad?Addiction, anon. The whole concept is based on addiction. Pull slot machine, get good thing, get dopamine. Pull slot machine again, don't get good thing? No worry, get good thing next time. Every nothing brings you closer to something. The Gacha creators are just the bastards that figured out that while a casino has to actually occasionally spit out money, a gacha game just has to give out skins and other digital goodies that only cost them a couple hours of some guys wage to infinitely reproduce.
>>749811940Lmao this. Why is this literally never addressed?
It's a mystery.
>>749812445>>749812896>>749813658>Nigger assesThe blacks and americans have arrived to shit up the thread
>>749815738but is it lewd like the OP
>>749816827Large breasted zappy wife spotted!
>>749808302I dont have to spend money to enjoy it though
>>749816681Can I get a quick rundown?
>>749808589I was gonna make a longer post, but it's not worth it. Just have this.You're brown.
>>749816226oh cool they have the innate ability to accurately calculate how many of their worthless cattle brethren drowned in the latest flood, big stuff
>>749816113yeah not denying that. i played it for a bit, was ok for what it was
>>749817067The CEO was the cause of why it flopped at launch. He got kicked out. The game now has clothing destruction and the sexiest MILF in all gaming.It's not rocket science and I don't even need the memerrows to explain the rest.
>>749808302Because they're lonely
>>749811252>if you turn the game on, there's a non-zero chance that you will get annoyed with the f2p progressionGive us some examples
>>749817606examples of what? a game steering you towards spending money?
Best gacha gameplay wise?
>>749817052People talked so much shit about Belka's viability, but she was one of her team's strongest until Sextans came out... Unfortunately due to the teams setup she was replaced by her.She was really fun to use, I miss using her.
>>749817352That's one way to cope at being worse at math and science
>>749817817Huh?
>>749817731That depends on what kind of gameplay/genre you enjoy.
>>749817932I can get behind action, turn-based, management etc., as long as it is sufficiently deep an fun.Liked Puzzle&Dragons, Reverse 1999, Umamusume.Tried to get into Arknights Endfield, and while the designs are top notch, the combat is mediocre. Same with Genshin Impact really.
>>749817731I personally like Arknights Endfield but it gets a LOT of shit so idkNTE is pretty easy to enjoy without going broke, too
>>749818238>I personally like Arknights Endfield but it gets a LOT of shit so idkI don't think it's bad, just not for me. Maybe the combat needs some time to grow on you, but it just didn't capture me at all in the opening hours.
>>749818334Kek I actually appreciate the fact that you don't have to mash the attack button, you can just hold it and let them get on with shit while still working out synergies, heady hits etc. >I swear I'm not fatI liked experimenting with gear too. Picrel is a defender. She's supposed to just jump in and shield you whenever something attacks. But with enough fucking about, you can actually main her as a hugely entertaining bonk DPS and as a bonus, the camera angle and sound when you shield parry, then ram in response makes my brain happy.
>>749811101What was that? I couldn't quite make you out over all that protesting......
>>749808302for the gameplay, story, and cunny
>>749818172I'm liking GFL2, the difficulty to get rewards feels appropiate if you're F2P. Can stretch the difficulty further for some modes but that's for whales and doesn't give rewards.They've added a lot of enemies over the past year which are all good to fight with unique abilities and mechanics.
>>749817731ZZZ is the only one with fun combat.
>>749818238MINT GAME MENTIONED
>>749808401Burgers?
>>749816938Girls are pretty, but they are not dressed in particularly risqué outfits. Mostly. Some cleavage and boob windows for sure, but no tits and ass nearly spilling out.
>>749819095Another cunnysaar of fine taste
>>749808302Because tranime enjoyers are cattle.
>>749808302Low effort gameplay
>>749817731ZZZ even though it's hoyoshitPGR is up there also, nothing comes close to this two
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>>749808302because it appeals to them in a way AAA and indies do not?some people play gachas because they are gambling addicts but other play gachas despite them being gachas
>>749817731Genshin Impact is still the peak of gacha games overall.
>>749819978PLAY VOLLEYBALL
>>749825832The gameplay was meh though.
>>74980830299% of player don't pay.wait until you learn about the westoid normie top 1 game (Monopoly btw)
>>749808302because I'm so fucking bored like you wouldn't believe, and they're the only long-term vidya I can play that have fake new content to trick me into thinking it's worthwhile playing. MMOs? bis within 2 weeks. Gachas? bis takes months at least, years at best. I have way too much time and nothing to do with it.
>>749811175It’s not really the same. The pressure on gacha games is from a different direction than on retail games. When gacha games get censored it’s usually just on a per-region basis that doesn’t affect ability to provide content to other regions like Japan and the west. Google and Apple rarely get involved themselves. Meanwhile with retail games the pressure comes directly from Sony/Nintendo/Steam themselves, and I would argue this is worse because platforms are a global scale choke point rather than merely a regional one. When Steam bans a game they ban it from everywhere, it has way more of an impact on sales than just China or Cuckstralia banning the game because almost no one uses GOG or DLSite compared to Steam and getting people to switch platforms is hard when they’re already invested in the ecosystem. On consoles you don’t even have this recourse. Sony, Nintendo and Steam collectively hunted retail ecchi games to near extinction, and I guarantee you if Google and Apple got as involved in policing content as they did you would see gacha games collapse as fast as the old console/Vita otaku games.
I like blue archive but it is too its production quality is too low. It feels too cheap after playing for a while even more now that gachas have reached insane quality and graphics. Any recommendations for a BA enjoyer?
>>749826278I learned all the redpills, I checked the government contracts, I argued with the kikes, I got bis in the MMOs, multiple times in some, I server firsted, I played all the strategy games, I exhausted the RPGs, the shooters turned into slop, open-world exploration fell sour and repetitive, the JRPGs are too boring, the sandboxes are still going strong, shit like darktide got mastered, there's nothing left but gacha for me. I have infinite money and time and nothing to spend it on, gacha fills the void until something meaningful comes out, which it won't.
>>749811175>>749826412To further my point, Steam banned Brown Dust 2, a game that is on the Google Play Store with minimal restrictions. If Steam is this bad you can imagine what the consoles are like.Gachas only have the content they do because Google and Apple allow them to. If gacha games were to start getting banned from the Play/App stores for the things Sony and Nintendo police games on PlayStation and Switch for there would be no gacha game industry at all, because the Play/App stores are THE choke point; good luck trying to get people to sideload from DMM or something on Android if Google doesn’t outright shut that down like they’re motioning to, and Apple already did.
>>749826089Mint Tornado!
>>749826625The milsims got simmed, ArmA ran dry, basebuilding, logistics, combat all done to the utmost extent, hell let loose turned into a series of events with varying solutions, squad lead, commander, each role, I wrung that shit out like a damp towel's few remaining drips and the game was dogshit. I must be artificially gated with time or the game will be finished and I'll need a new one, all there is now is mobileslop made for nip salarymen that is little more than a casino in disguise at best. Preferably games that are brutal grinds for free to players, with intensely layered RNG like uma, and all there is is gacha.
I hear Azur Pomelia's english version is going to be delayed by like six months, what an absolute death sentence.
>>749826935How is Brown Dust 2 so extreme? Steam has fucking Mad Island, a game with rape, guro, ryona and child sacrificing demonic rituals. Makes no sense.
I will NEVER play you gacha shit, but I will continue to cum and goon evey day to hot gacha sluts.
>>749828912Really? Well shit, who's behind Mad Island? Maybe that might provide a clue?
>>749828912Brown Dust 2 features Refithea, a childlike fairy with a precocious crush on the protagonist. She has a skin (pic related) where she dons a wedding dress and basically LARPs as your bride. It’s all played very lightheartedly, but Steam does not see nuance in matters like this, they just declare the whole game to be child porn and ban it. On (most versions of) both the Google Play and App Store versions this skin and Live2D are not censored.
