I think I'm having more fun still with Origins than the dynasty warriors 3 remaster.
>>749821274 One thing I liked about Warriors orokai for despite it not being in English was the Fire Emblem type conversations I want that to be a regular thing in Warriors games.If we got them in Samurai five I believe and Origins but only between people and the silent protagonist.
I'm not really tried to play DW 3 for long,(and played og version rather than remaster) but it seems to be too frustrating and hard to play, even more than previous game that have literally some random bullshit buffs given to officers every time when they fall, including healing, to enjoy properly. If they really needed to choose a old game to remaster it should've been DW 4 or 5. >Origins Isn't it basically a scam that missing half the story and only giving you 1 character to play as? Not particularly high standards there.
>>749824027The high difficulty in 3 is part of the appeal. You get used to it eventually
>>749825401If i wanted to play a "fights between armies-focused game where you have powers equal to simple peasant with a spear" kind of game: i would just played Mount and Blade.
>>749826186What?
Why did they name this nigga "Pawg Thong"?
>>749824027>missing half the storywhat story is there is better told and more fleshed out than any of the previous games and the sequel will continue it
>>749826186Numusou fans are fucking embarassing
>>749827997Better than Cow Pee
>>749827986I just trying to say that it's too hard for a proper musou game>>749828448Whatever, enjoy your hardcoreslop like i care.
What are some events you would change in DW3 maps?For me, Chibi fire attack is the most unsatisfying shit ever in this game. Depending on your side you don't even need to do anything, and either way you will get fuckall from it.
>>749821274protag of origins has monkeypox and turbo gay aidsI'm sorry OP, it's terminal
>>749821274Origins on hero is the best dynasty warriors experience. I do hope a sequel lets you play as more characters regularly but it's pretty sad seeing people turn it up just because of the roster.
>>749827997 I believe that was his historical name that they called the dude or at least how it's translated from Japanese to hear the funny thing about his name is that he's known as the Federal Phoenix so I would love for him to meet Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney.
saw this dw3 map editor (not remaster) on the leddit today but its hidden behind pisscord which i don't feel like using. creator says very likely the remaster could be added as wellhttps://youtu.be/Pcd8b8fyPzM
>>749821274>>749825401The more I play 3R, the more I just find the things that make it difficult annoying rather challenging>the constant Musou spam >which you can't reliably block or bait out because there will always that one soldier fucker who tackles and stuns you from offscreen>can't reliably juggle enemy officers because they will break fall after a few hits>ally officers constantly get into troubles and get deleted in seconds>elements only proc on 1 or 2 last charge attacks so you are too incentivized to spam those attacks (in the original game, elements are only found on 4th and 5th weapons, and non-Steel elements suck so you aren't that incentivized)>all the constant button mashings are hurting my hands now that I'm in my mid-30sI don't even think I grew out of the series because I fucking loved Origin, its super gay undertone aside.
>>749821274Origins is a better game overall, but warriors 3 is an amazing arcade like to pick and do 2 or 3 maps
>>749830356If they can somehow pull off Origins but with a big roster it'll be fucking peak.
>>749821274Origins is fine, but its gameplay is too braindead compared to the PS2 era
Hypothetically if someone were to make a system where Warriors games were combined and you could use any character in any game, what other features would you want?
>>749827997So you know not to fuck with him in less than arrow distance
>>749830186They all kinda suck in this game if you're not on Normal or less, let's be real. 4 has more substantial events, except for Yi Ling being kinda shit
>>749833120it's more of a recreation of the game for PC(and phones lol) than a standalone map editor. The dev doesn't have a playable version yet
This timeline is pretty interesting
How do you fumble the "donut steel shapes history" genre by not letting people make their own donut steel? Had they learned nothing from Empires?
What are the most difficult 5th weapons so far for you?Figured out any reliable strats?
Anyone?
Holy fuck Sun Ce is so bad in DW3R on Hard/Chaos. Unbelievably garbage. No range, no damage, shit charge attacks outside of C4. He has nothing going on for him aside from having a unique moveset. Shit, I think part of the problem comes down to the basic bitch Pike/Spear/Sword movesets being too good when you give it to aggressive Elite peons. Really shows how bad some characters are. Meanwhile, a character who does have that semi-generic aforementioned moveset + having unique Charge attacks (Lu Meng/Zhang Liao) are straight up better than fucking Lu Bu.
>>749842298Sorry, bro. I just didn't have a blast with this game.
>>749834114DW2-5 autist here.>the constant Musou spamI actually find enemies are less likely to musou in this game especially on chaos it's definitely less than original>which you can't reliably block or bait out because there will always that one soldier fucker who tackles and stuns you from offscreenThe AI is a bit too aggressive especially with how many enemies are on screen but it's so easy to just reposition.>can't reliably juggle enemy officers because they will break fall after a few hitsThis is actually due to weapons in the game because reach is tied to the model unless there is a "reach" modifier on the weapon or wind scroll, for example Xiahou Yuans 3rd weapon jiggles his C6 more reliably than his 5th weapon and both of these weapons proc steel element.>ally officers constantly get into troubles and get deleted in secondsThis always happened espeically on harder difficulties, but the Ally AI off screen is a bit more retarded almost like the threshold with morale for their abilities are way out of place.>elements only proc on 1 or 2 last charge attacks so you are too incentivized to spam those attacks (in the original game, elements are only found on 4th and 5th weapons, and non-Steel elements suck so you aren't that incentivized)This was always the case with 3 and not nerfing steel was a big issue, fire is slightly better in 3R but it's still kind of ass (and always will be)>all the constant button mashings are hurting my hands now that I'm in my mid-30spussy>>749843694Sun Ce has always been bad, Lu Bu is always top tier in every game 5 prob being his strongest but 4 is still very strong too. Zhang Liao > Lu Meng no diff Lu Meng is ASS
>>749821274bayonetta if no glasses
>>749844068We really need the best game to reclaim its throne soon
>>749844435Enemy musou is very obnoxious in the remake with how you beat them to 50%, get musou'd, beat them to 30% 10 seconds later, get musou'd, beat them to 10% 10 seconds later, get true musou'd, beat them to 1 HP 10 seconds later because they just conveniently jumped out of whatever combo you're doing, get true musou'd, you die.Also, they definitely get free recovery from your combo's even if you're supposed to hit them all the way through with few exceptions to the rule. Xiahou Yuan's example is more so his 5th literally dropping niggas because of shit hitboxAllies die like 3 times faster, which is absolutely infuriating for certain 5th weapon requirements
I hate how many badass characters these games has that you barely have a chance to use because of musou campaigns locking you out of playing them if they're belong to a different faction. Idk about newer games yet, but playing through stages via free mode on DW 4 feels pretty frustrating to do. It keep forgetting which bodyguards i use and reset their numbers and weapons to default, as well as it's generally hard to find specific mission in there.
>>749848260Diao Chan sisters, our response?
I find SW more interesting because there are more factions and prefer the mixed traditional Japanese music better than the rock tracks of DW. Just finished the main story stuff in SW2, probably going to start the original Orochi next.
For me? It's Zhang He. The best Dynasty Warrior.
>>749851973Too gay-coded for my taste, almost feels like some kind of OC character from Origins.
>>749850023I started blasting with saika in sw4
>>749853625Saika's 'bro' scenes in SW2 with Hideyoshi were hilarious, I wonder if SW4 has that as well. I'll really have to get DX on Steam at some point, the game just looks beautiful.
>>749854351>I wonder if SW4 has that as wellUnfortunately, no. I don't remember if they even have a bro relationship outside of Empires lines when you field them together.
>>749854351I played sw4-2 and masamune date and saika often are allied together, they're great. Date is also fucken broken with the speed tech you can do.Saika is also into koshosho iirc
>>749854583Regrettable, but then again when I see this >>749848260Maybe it's better not to foster these types of interactions anymore
>>749854610I can see Date and Saika going along, I like Date design a lot. In SW2 he was mostly on Toyotomi/Tokugawa cleanup duty, I would like to see some northern campaigns of his portrayed in the games. By the way do you think is there enough maps in 4-II to not get bored, I heard it has better AI than 4(DX) ?
>>749834114I think you need to git gud.t. still playing on Hard(and occasionally Chaos for 5th weps) and all classic settings. Unlocked every faction character, last one required for Fuxi, and one more girl for Nuwa
why did they abandon samurai warriors 5 like that?
>>749821274>Origins>DW3RGoddammit, main series is actually going through a revival. Attack on Titan 3 better not suck.
>>749850023samurai was also always infinitely more interesting as empires. because it's a fucking island.
>>749855169I've unlocked a few 5th weapons already with most classic settings except having the dodge, auto item pick up and horse call turned on. I wasn't complaining that the game was unplayable, I just listed out things that I found to be annoying
>>749855292>except having the dodgeThat's a big difference between having only front guard as your defensive option
>>749855218abyss as well if you're into that
>>749855169Not him but I'm playing on full hard classic, started naked, except for call horse and horse item pick up. Have got some 5ths.The game "balance" is rather frustrating a lot of the times.
>>749855558It's not that well balanced because 3 never was(especially with some of the weaker characters), but I find the only thing that really stands out is the remaster morale system, which doesn't make the game significantly harder but it does change the pace of the battles a lot.
>>749855665I've played 3 plenty as well and I do have problems with it, but the remaster made them much worse and added some, which is... 無念...
>>749855762Get off 4chan, Taishi Ci.
>>749855197I haven't looked into it, but I had the impression that gameplay side was lukewarm-okay and the character designs did not hit the mark compared to 4.>>749855264Yeah, I love other strategy games on the sengoku map as well like Rance and older Paradox games.
>If Wei has Zhang Liao, Wu has Gan NingAre those two really comparable?Also ironically enough, in-game Gan Ning is always a bigger threat
>>749855909The gameplay is the most polished of the series, but the clones turned a lot of people off. I personally was okay with the clones though because this always happen when Koei tries to revamp the combat, I'm already used to it, and most of the new weapons (except the spear) are super fun.The character, both designs and characterizations, are probably what turned people off the most. The character designs got too fujo-coded, and the non-Oda characters all came off as assholes. The story also sucked donkey's ass big time. Kessen 3's approach to a Nobunaga-centric story was a lot better.
>>749855218Biggest problem with the Musou formula is they have no real competition. Sengoku Basara is sadly dead.
>>749856231With Crapcom saying that they're actively trying to revive their dead IPs, I have copium that Basara is somewhere down the line, maybe 2030.
>>749856050Good to hear the gameplay is good, I don't mind clones too much probably. Might be worth a buy at some point then.>fujo-codedYeah that's a good way to describe it lol. It makes them look a bit too samey I think. Glad to hear about about Kessen also, I just started with the first game and besides the clunky UI it seems really fun.
>>749856050>but the clones turned a lot of people offmusou games never survive the first encounter with next gen platforms because there's a fuckton of characters you need to update assets for. which is why they're probably doing a smaller remaster rather than tackling dw10 with 90+ playable characters.
>Faction vs Others stages:Yellow Turban Rebellion, Hulao Gate, Guandu(Wei vs Yuan Shao), Chengdu(Shu vs Liu Zhang), Wan Castle(Wei vs Zhang Xiu), Surprise attack on Liu Biao(Wu vs Liu Biao), Wu territory(Wu vs a bunch of people), Nanman(both Shu and Wu have one, even if Wu never fought Nanman), Mountain Bandit, Pirate attack, Rogue fortress>Shu vs Wei:Changban, Chibi(sort of), Tong Gate, Mt. Dingjun, Jieting, Wuzhang Plains, Guan Yu's Escape(lol)>Wu vs Wei:Chibi, Fan Castle, Hefei, ****ing, Hefei Castle>Shu vs Wu:Fan Castle, YilingThey really needed to add more hypothetical Shu vs Wu battles for 3R
>>749856739Chibi, but Shu vs WuHefei Castle, but Shu vs WuWu Zhang Plains, but Shu vs Wu
>>749855078yeah there's a decent selection of maps but whether you get bored or not is up to you
>>749856956>Chibi, but Shu vs WuThis one would be worth it only for the inevitable Zhuge Liang vs Zhou Yu shenanigans. Even if making it happen would be extremely convoluted, to say the least. Shu would need to be both on the other side of the map, and somehow have a navy to challenge Wu.>Hefei Castle, but Shu vs WuCould work if it's a scenario where Shu fucked Wei over before Wu. They could change it in a proper Zhuge Liang vs Lu Xun since Yiling doesn't really count. That's the "Shu wins" scenario I guess.>Wu Zhang Plains, but Shu vs WuAnd that's the "Wu wins" scenario since Zhuge Liang should die here.
Nu morale in a shellnut.Hard difficulty, Lu Bu started at 6 stars in both
>>749848260that's pretty gaynice
>>749821274Obviously duh else they wouldn't call it Origins.
>>749859374Using a fresh character.Stat scaling is so balls-to-the-wall in the og. Still way better.
>>749848260Nice yaoi VN
>>749859374Never being able to see the >Yuan Shu! You have deceived me! cutscene hurts more than it should.
>>749860486I saw it playing Hard once, Lu Bu had 5 stars at the start so he does less damage off screen.Also pretty much every time with morale mod, even if that adds one min at best.
>>749856956>ChibiWorks if Cao Cao loses Guan Du early and gets caught in a stalemate with Yuan Shao. Liu Bei can't deal with retard Lu Bu taking Xia Pi and thus leaving for Jin as Liu Biao welcomes them. Wu still pissed mad about Liu Biao murdering Sun Jian causes Chibi to occur but with Wu on the offense.>HefeiWorks if Liu Bei never leaves Xia Pi and carves out a chunk of land, leading him to defeaf Cao Cao or Yuan Shao after they've exhausted their forces from years of fighting. Wu would of swept Jin leading their forces to either join Liu Bei or exodus to ChengDu.>Wu ZhangScenario above, Shu-Han subjectgates Ma Teng's lands (Or Cao Cao if he got pushed here) leading to the traditional chinese civil war of the north and south.
