PS6 RAM + NAND costs more than $680 alone. How hard is PS6 going to flop? Predict lifetime sales. My guess: 20m lifetime. If it's $1300-1700 or some shit it's just gonna be the Sony hardcore fanboys buying it
>>749870367Nope. Normalfags will buy that shit up. Despite how much they moan and bitch about muh prices and muh inflation they haven't stopped luxury spending at all.
They have outsourced parts already and are buying them cheaper than us mortals. It wont cost more than 1k. And thats still cheaper than serious gaming PC at 2k+. 1k actually isnt that much, people are richer than ever before. And to be honest I dont give a fuck if it sells or not and why should you care
>>749870367A midrange pc costs 1.5k+ to build too. All new hardware is gonna flop
PS6/Project Scarlet will be premium high end next generation machines. Not for your average poorfag. Think the PS5 PRO they are already going for more than $1000 @ Gamestop USED.
>>749870367PS6 OS will be decomped day 1
>>749870367>PS6 RAM + NAND costs more than $680 alone. How hard is PS6 going to flop?Not much, cattle is going to buy it anyway>PS6 RAM + NAND costs more than $680 alone. And digital onlyA little less now>PS6 RAM + NAND costs more than $680 alone. And digital only. ALSO no exclusivesA tiny less now.>PS6 RAM + NAND costs more than $680 alone. And digital only. ALSO no exclusives. Sold at lossA tiny eyebrow raising>Little to none 3rd party games PANIC>>749870947Don't think the mass consumer will wisen up in a short span of time. The pricing is here to stay, at least on PC. Maybe this is a good thing in the big picture
>I hate consoles so much we should have a thread about it!Every weekend it's the same shit, I'm waiting on the Ninja Gaiden dad thread to pop up any moment>Is NG2 the greatest action game of all time?!
>>749870593True.. I've seen people pay 1,000 for a scalped console during covid.
>>749870367If you can't afford it, we have the perfect console for you. It is called a used ps4.
>>749870367Sony can't subsidize the PS6. If they do, then browns will buy up the entire supply to scavenge the RAM and SSDs out of them.
I've been waiting for AMD's chiplet GPU since before the 7800X3D came out. Then they said it wouldn't come out with RDNA4 and so I waited. And now RDNA5 is being delayed and I will still wait.
>>749871615>Little to none 3rd party games>PANICIf key ball and gun games are there, Sony will be fine.
>>749870367The next playstation is coming in 2032.
>>749870367Once MU stock price is crashed, we will get price right.
>>7498725812027/8
>>749870367It doesn't matter what it costs because no one is buying one after the ps5 rugpull
>>7498726822027/8/9/0/1/2
>>749872508But if they're not because devs costs, those already reached unsustainable levels a decade ago and began to backfire the industry that jumped into graphicfagging and hardware
>>749872798>GTA6 complete edition $110There. Massive success.
>>749870367PlayStation has never had a flop home console. They are the defacto platform for every major 3rd party.
>>749872949PS3
>>749872949PS3 lost them billions, mate
>>74987300287M units sold
>>749872932>complete editionThat implies there will be any dlc for GTAVI other than online, which there won't be. And the PC version will already be out by then. Only the blackest, most retarded gorillia niggers will get a ps6 and most of them will probably just shoplift it.
>>749873029The discussion is how many people bought their system. PS3 still sold 87M units.
>>74987309587m and still a flop. PS6 lifetime numbers will be low. Very low. Shareholders and third parties will be pissed off for sure
PS1> 102M units PS2> 160M unitsPS3> 87M unitsPS4 > 117M unitsPS5> 95M units (and counting)I see no raise for concern. PS3 was $600 in 2006 during a financial crisis and still did well.
I thought ps3 and ps4 and ps5 was going to flop too
>>749873258>PS3 was $600 in 2006 during a financial crisis and still did well.Because Sony lost billions subsidizing it and with price cuts. Sony has already said they're not gonna do that.
>>749873258PS5 data hasn't even shown the GTA 6 bonus yet. Probably 120M lifetime when all is done.
>>749873381People still spent their hard earned money on a $600 console during a financial crisis, retard. Your argument doesn't make any sense in this context.
>>749872508is that why GTAVI is coming to PC six months later
>>749873408>PS5 data hasn't even shown the GTA 6 bonus yet. Probably 120M lifetime when all is done.lol never gonna happen. GTA 6 is early 2027 on PC. If PS5 remains on the market Sony's gonna have to give it yet another price increase too>>749873443Let's say it remained at $500-600. Lifetime sales would have been around 40-50m. PS6 is gonna be way more expensive than that. The only reason why PS6 could sell at all is through sheer brand loyalty from their Sony sheep because Project Helix probably won't sell at all but they're really the same product.
>>749873584If brand loyalty was so good Nintendo wouldn't have got raped in the 8th gen
>>749873509The AI recomps and pseudo-ports have people scared, I'd betBloodborne alone is probably a hundred million or more Sony'd left on the table for a decade and someone decided to just burn it in front of them
>>749873258Crazy how SONY has never had a failed home console. They're the most consistent platform in that regard.
>>749873657Difference in IQ. Nintendo fans just waited for NX. Sony ponies bought cloud tablet and PSVR scam twice
Why do you retards assume every country is in a financial crisis just because the states is?
>>749873037Red numbers all of its cycle, managed to burn bank made by PS2.
>>749873038>That implies there will be any dlc for GTAVI other than online, which there won't be.>he thinks a 3rd party is selling a game complete with no content held back in development whatsoever>in 2026
>>749873776>Why should I care if the biggest economy in the world implodes??
>>749873773Lol did you just claim Nintendo fans have a high IQ >>749873793Beat the greatest success C
>>749873754PS3 was that. >>749873258 proved that and PS5 is bound to last until 2030 at least just like any other PS staying around almost as if there were 2 PS per gen to extend reach
>>749873932I was talking about usa not china but yea why should i care about that
>>749873949>did you just claim Nintendo fans have a high IQIf Nintendo killed physical they wouldn't support Nintendo. Sony killed physical and Sony ponies still defended Sony
>>749873973PS3 outsold XBOX 360 lmaoooo
>>749874052Tendies willingly buy game key cards for the most inferior version of 3rd party games. Oh and that'll be $80 + tip.
>>749874052Lol'd at this. Majority of nintendo sales are just parents buying gifts for their kids do you think they care about physical media if anything digital only makes buying games easier.
>>749874210yeah man parents love having their kids unwrap cardboard giftcards
>>749874210Yeah Sony gave Nintendo a huge free win forever by killing physical. Pretty obvious dude.
>>749874052>Sony killed physical and Sony ponies still defended SonyValve. Sony is jumping the shark on consoles by taking the hint.>>749874093Not particularly a milestone of sorts.
>>749874305Sorry unc but we have what you call an "app store" now, most phones have them too so people are used to using them, even little kids.
>>749870367PS5 will remain in production until the PS7 releases. The entire PS6 catalog will be crossgen, with the first half being on PS5 and the second half being on PS7
>>749874210>videogames are electronic children's toys>sony decides that somehow only try to sell licenses for digital only electronic children's toys is a solid strategy beyond a portion of the audience>Stores now are free real state for Nintendo stations >Xbox games gathered so much dust on the shelves they were basically scrapped by retailNintendomination is going to look really one sided now, and if it pays off it may ensure Nintendo never abandoning physical and staying with both in equal measures
>>749874509>PS5 will remain in production until the PS7 releasesSony's not gonna keep 3 consoles in production
>>749872308funny thing is, that design is better than ps5
>>749874467keep coping my dude
>>749874653The Mattrickstation!
>>749874631>PS5 will remain in production until the PS7 enters productionHappy, autismo?
>>749873258SONY ALWAYS WINS BABY
>>749874782PS5, PS6, PS handheld. Also what would be the point in trying to sell PS5 at all? To sell complete overpriced garbage nobody wants so it can take up retail space? There'd be no fucking point at all
>>749874723how is that a cope. People that are not huge gaming nerds will always prefer digital over physical. If it wasn't true why would sony kill discs? Please don't say they don't want you to own your games, they can block you from playing your discs too.
>>749875180>If it wasn't true why would sony kill discsBecause it locks people into buying through Sony and only Sony where they can take a substantial cut while also eliminating the costs associated with Disc production.
>>749870367ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARSONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARSONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS
>>749875180>People that are not huge gaming nerds will always prefer digital over physical. If it wasn't true why would sony kill discs?Greed. Stupidity. Arrogance. In Europe physical is still huge
>>749875180look up the price of a physical copy of a sony exclusive and the price of a digital copy of a sony exclusive
Why would a fucking PS6 cost LESS than a PS5 Pro? Is this fucker retarded or something?
>>749870367Yeah no way this won't be over $1000.Never listen to Moore's LawL again
>>749875180In my country the most expensive Switch 2 game is still cheaper than blunders like Saaros and Wolverine is on the PS Store.
>>749875638He's saying it's $680+ alone for two parts
>>749875781Physical s2 games have regional pricing where you live? they're incredibly expensive compared to e-shop here
>>749875638He means the price of the RAM and storage alone are that much. And then you need to account for the rest of the fucking console.This thing will be way over $1000 even if they want to sell it at cost price and rely on platform fees from game sales for profit.
>>749870593Yeah the normies are buying phones for 2000 euros, they're basically lobotomized
>>749875813>>749875964It wasn't clear from my post but I meant the person Kepler is replying to thinking it's gonna be less than 700.
>>749876208Fair enough, I didn't even open OP's image.Yeah the guy in the screenshot is absolutely delusional, even if consoles can be sold at a loss there's a limit to it. Selling it at $680 would require the average PS6 owner to buy around 50 full price AAA games just to make the money back.
>>749875957It's different with each release is what it seems like, sometimes it's the equivalent of a 20 dollar difference between physical and digital, sometimes 10. It's annoying to try to find a good price, so I'm thinking about not buying from retail at all or just buying used to fuck over both.
>>749876208I don't think you understand the levels of cope the hardcore sony fanboys are on. This guy got 25k+ posts all just shilling PS on resetera alone
>>749870367You can just finance that for 36 months you know?
>>749870367Who the fuck wants to buy a PS6 when the PS5 showed that it has nogaems?The PS5 is nearly 6 years old now, and the only game it has is a remake of a 2009 game.Neither the base PS5 nor a PS5 """""Pro""""""" can even run ports of most modern day AAA games at a bare minimum of 1080p/60fps. You either have to suffer through shit framerates or extremely grainy/muddy downgraded visuals for the game to be able to run at a decent enough framerate.
>>749877093yeah just put it on klarna and never pay it back
>>749876123That's the reason why I don't understand how some anons think it's gonna be a flop because of it's price.
>people will buy a $1500+ console No they won't, they'll just spend that extra money on a better phone because phone prices are also going through the roof
>>749877305They fucking will. The same way they buy 2k phones. You people really need to go outside sometimes. People are willing to go deep into debt from that sort of shit.
>>749877374Okay how many then you little bitch? You think $1500 PS6 will sell even 10 million? And that's billions of losses for Sony by the way even if they manage to sell that much
>>749870367Assuming it releases next holiday season in 2027, it'll be $1299 bare minimum. It will also be the Ps5/Series X 2020 situation all over again where it'll be bought out instantly by bots/scalpers and sold for $1500+.It will also have no games, just like the Ps5.
>>749870367999.99 for the base (no storage or controller included)
>>749877595I could 100% see Sony selling it without a controller, but no storage is a retarded take.
>>749877585The fact that every retailer cant stop pokemon scalpers is proof that it will be next to impossible for average consumers to get this. You will need to prove to sony you have a big enough gamer score to get one.
>>749877539And how many morons do you think go buying iphones every year you dumb fucking retard?
>>749877806Sony got chased away from making phones and tvs for a reason, anon. They got spanked
>>749873443>he thinks most of the sales was for $600 and not the $300 they had to drop it to, and then drop it further to $250
>>749870367Sales won't be much worse than PS5 numbers. Normies only pretend to be broke so they can pressure the government into more handouts. They've all got plenty of money.
>>749877937No they didn't, stop living in /v/land, much of what you see her doesn't bother normies and fanboys that mich. Normies already live in an all digital world where they own nothing and are happy. They live in debt to fucking eat, they want the next new shiny thing even if they don't have the money. The only thing that is potentially gonna piss normies off is scalpers making it hard to get.
>>749873509It's coming to PC later, because Rockstar knows a staggered release will make everyone double-dip.
>>749875638There are people all over the internet who think that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will absorb the costs, and they're idiots because the mere fact that these three companies raise their prices years after launching their consoles means they won't do that anymore.The days when consoles were cheap because the companies absorbed their costs are overhttps://blog.playstation.com/2026/03/27/new-price-changes-for-ps5-ps5-pro-and-playstation-portal-remote-player/https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/price-revision-for-nintendo-switch-2-system/https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/06/25/xbox-console-price-update/
>>749878475>they want the next new shiny thingAnd they will. Switch 2. Next year there's 3D Mario and Pokemon so Sony can't compete with that. I'm not even sure how Sony's gonna market this shit
>>749877585>1300 bare minimumIt's got to be more than that, because right now, a PS5 Pro is 1500.https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-PlayStation-5-Pro-Console-PS5-Pro/18235967161So the PS6 is gonna be at least 1500. Also, get ready for them to sell it to you WITHOUT a controller. You're gonna have to fork 100 dollars for just one controller. You think they wouldn't do that?And maybe another 10-20 bucks for a vertical stand. All so that you can play modern AAA games at sub-60fps framerates with lots of downgraded grainy/muddy visuals so that it can actually run 60fps some of the times.
they'll probably wait until the ram crisis is over to release the ps6. there's no way they're gonna release a console that expensive, it's practically suicide
The PS5/Pro price shenanigans are a marketing strategy to get people used to the numbers. Doesn't matter if you don't like it or murderously hate it.Look at graphics cards.Even before this AI boom bullshit there was no real reason to raise GPU costs any more than real inflation numbers.But now a $800 GPU is the new normal for a midrange GPU instead of $450, and you've accepted that you're either always going to pay the inflation equivalent of that, or will pay even more because of more bullshit anyways.$1200 PS5? $1400? $1500 PS5 Pro?New normal.Fact of the matter is as things are right now the raw hardware cost, assembly, and shipping of a PS6 alone even if it's just 24GB + 4GB RAM + 1TB storage, is going to be north of $1,100.That's the basic cost to Sony, who still have to cover their debts and (optionally) pay their employees.And no your $12/mth PS+ subscription and the 2 games you buy on sale a year aren't making up for if they subsidize the console.The PS6 is going to be $1200, minimum. Absolute minimum. If it releases before the market bullshit doesn't stop.
>>749879168At best the PS6 is going to be on the level of a RTX 4080 and unless the nvidia 6000 cards are a fucking miracle the 4080/4080S are still going to be in the world's top 10 fastest cards list. SIX YEARS after release, if 6000 series is out in 2028.
>>749879473>they'll probably wait until the ram crisis is over to release the ps6. there's no way they're gonna release a console that expensive, it's practically suicideIf Sony does nothing then Nintendo will dominate the market for years and years, which they will anyways but still. Sony has to release something because of their investors and third party relationships
>>749876123No they aren't. This years phone sales are the lowest in two decades. The prices are unsustainable.
>>749879853I bought a refurbished iPhone 13 Mini and it works perfectly. I don't get why you'd need more, cost me 350€. So I can also see why people wouldn't get a new phone. There's not really a need, outside of breaking, to actually upgrade?