Were Nintendo the good guys all along?
>>749880547Yes.
if nintendo does something it is automatically bad because nintendo is evil and demonic
1 good thing does not negate 100 bad things.
>>749880701>100 bad things.post the list
>>749880547you mean the company that in ~2008 said they would never do paid DLC? and in ~2012 said they wouldn't make mobile games? no.
>>749880547>literally the only thing tendies talk about every single fucking day because it's the only good thing about jewtendo right nowpathetic
>>749880820That's not what they actually said and you know it
>>749880547No. Their console is always-online and they already put effort into denying you basic rights that they need to give you according to copyright in the countries that they operate in.Don't trust any modern slop producer that doesn't give you full control over your hardware and insists you follow imaginary versions of copyright law.Even if they do distribute physical games, they can made just as worthless as digital downloads.
>>749880547They'll ditch it in about 3 years, just like with the Game Boy Advance.
>>749880547good by comparison
>>749880547>Like IT
>>749880547>No plans to ditch physical games>Except most games already have DLC so the full games will one day not be available>Gamekeycards exist that might as well just be a digital copy
>>749880724I'm sure there's at least 100 fangames that weren't monetized that Nintendo sent their goons after
>>749880701>100 bad things
>>749885989Nintendo is not relevant enough to destroy the industry. That doesn't mean they don't suck.
>>749886546>cry that nintendo is bad>can't give any examples or explain why but nintendo is relevant enough to hold up the entire US video game market as sony sputters out and dies
>>749880724best i can do is about 40
>>749885962Name them.
>70-80 dollar game with 35 dollar DLC, right after everyone complained about GTA6 being 80 with $20 DLCNo.
>>749888619>the based chadtendo megalist
>>749888619Pretty sure the NES Mario rom was debunked a long time ago.
>>749880547What are digital game keys for 200, Alex
>>749880547>we aren't going to ditch physical>we'll just make it more expensive and still make you download the gameeventually they'll follow sony phase them out completely and tendies will applaud them for it.'tendo does the same shit as all these scumbag companies the only difference is they're always late to the party.
>>749889105you really think snoys care about their cope being true or not?
>>749889307a means to try force scummy third party devs to not make pure digital games but you've been told this thousands of times
>>749889398Yes because it makes them look even more pathetic
>>749889468its been played out the same every time this is just step 1but you've been told this thousands of times yourself
>>749890348>coping this much
>>749888619wtf i hate nintendo now
>>749880547Always was. Sony tried to screw them over, wanted to kill physical first before Xbox etc.
Fun factoid.Japan is currently doing a whole industry co-operation to get 2nm semiconductor plants up and running fast which are claimed to have 10x+ the production capacity of previous methods specifically to ensure the supply for Japan's industry and defense.Want to bet if Nintendo, literally the only company japanese normalfag non-gamers ever give a single fuck about, will be among those getting access while foreign californian-based companies will get fuck all?
>>749880547Yeh bro we ain't ditchin physical>*Sells you cartridges only containing a download link >*Removes the ability to play your games without regularly connecting to the internet>*Gives themselves the ability to brick your system at any time
>>749893480Game Key cards are for third parties like Square who demands them.Nintendo never puts their own shit on Key cards only real physical or digital only.The only ones even tangentially related to Nintendo that had Key cards are games published by Koei Tecmo.
We wouldn't need physical if Nintendo games didn't have a disgusting amount of DRM and restrictions in them. Tell me, why can't my Wii and WiiU and 3DS games be played on the switch? Why can't my digital purchases transfer?The obvious answer is that they want me repaying them over and over again, for no reason. Just like sony.
>>749880547Nintendo have already started to ditch physical games. Game Key Cards are digital downloads, but without the convenience.
>>749880547no they fired my uncle
>>749893480>literally only exists to tard wrangle third party devs, while sony was happily selling disks with nothing but a download code in them >sony will remove your ability to play games if you don't plug your playstation in regularly, they will also steal your games on a whim, they will also try to charge you demos then delete your account if you contest it >some redditor got banned from multiplayer because he tried to take a migswitch game online
>>749893695Ironic you're still trying this, ACpedo, when latest sony leaks showed them not letting the PS5 play ALL playstation games is literally just a toggle in the system
>>749893480>>*Removes the ability to play your games without regularly connecting to the internetthat's valve not nintendo
>>749893695why would you ever need to rebuy a game you already own? you OWN the game, its on your fucking shelf. just play the fucking game, you tard
>>749893883Okay, and? Could you point me to the part in my post where I say that sony wasn't guilty of this too? Or is deflecting to sony the only thing you can do?>>749894012That's not good enough. Why is it restricted to a DRM laden, closed garden of a console? Why aren't Nintendo games compatible with future devices? As sony demonstrated, all it takes is a simple toggle in the hardware. why don't they enable it?
>>749894003valve and sony actually
sure but it'll put them at much higher risk for decompilers than their competitors
>>749880547Game Key Cards aren't physical games no matter how hard Nintendo tries to pretend they are.
>>749894239game key cards aren't full digital no matter how hard snoys try to pretend they are
>>749892548And America is getting a bunch of their own plants set up as well. This news/post is pointless. It's nice to know that part prices will eventually fall in the coming few years.
>>749894164>buy game>own it forever>can play whenever the fuck you want without needing to verify an account, update any software, or connect to any servers>UHHH THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGHokay, dumb fucking nigger. you don't actually care about video games, you just want to get mad over made up scenarios in your fucking head
ALL I WANNA SAY IS THAT
>>749894393>buy game>own it forever>can play whenever the fuck you want without needing to verify an account, update any software, or connect to any serversI can do that on PC too. I've got games from 2001 that still work on my modern PC, and don't require DRM or accounts or server verification. You know what's missing on Nintendo's side? Not needing to constantly buy new hardware incase my old hardware breaks.Deus Ex: Game of the Year edition still works on my modern PC. Can't even play Super Mario Sunshine on the Switch without paying an extra fee.
>>749894182That image isn't accurate. It's a one time online check-in after ~15 days. You don't need to do an online check-in every 30 days.
>>749885883>Except most games already have DLCAnd this has NEVER been done before Nintendo
>>749894574>Not needing to constantly buy new hardware incase my old hardware breaks.So when your hard drive bricks or a keyboard or mouse stops working, your PC fairy godmother waves her magic wand and everything just magically gets repaired instantly? Sounds amazing, you've sold me.
>>749894861>be playing Starsector on my PC>hard drive dies, kbm dies, mouse stops working>buy hardware to replace them, or better yet, upgrade them to something better>my game works on the new hardware, without needing to rebuy it againMeanwhile, my SNES carts are forever stuck to the SNES, so I have to go into junk stores and antique stores and buy overpriced shit just to keep playing them. No working on the N64 or Wii or WiiU or switch.
>>749895013So its okay when your PC hardware breaks and you have to pay money to replace them, but its unacceptable if your non PC hardware breaks and you have to replace it. Cool, I understand now.
>>749895013>Buy PC to play game>Don't change from PC to continue playing gameHow is this any different? Better yet, there are tons of complaints of newer operating systems completely locking out old games from running, and at what point is replacing all the files with fixes any different from emulating?
>>749895149IF Nintendo and sony allowed you to replay your old games on your modern consoles, maybe it wouldn't be a problem. And before you bitch and whine about how "THE CARTRIDGES WOULDN'T FIT" maybe they should at least allow sideloading of our own roms and isos. But that would cut into their precious profit margins.>>749895158>Better yet, there are tons of complaints of newer operating systems completely locking out old games from running, and at what point is replacing all the files with fixes any different from emulating?You have the freedom to tinker with the files and do whatever you want, so they cannot tell you what to do with your game. I've yet to find a game that legit doesn't work with modern hardware, and games that push updates will always let you roll back to previous versions, in case of incompatibility with new features. Wouldn't it be nice if Nintendo let you roll back OOT to version 1.0, instead of being forcefed censored slop?
>>749894663multiple people showed that it was a 30 day DRM check in a guy in the thread even took screenshots of himself buying shit on PSN and then showing the check in date on the game's page
>>749886747Charging for onlinePatent trollingShutting down fangamesShutting down local tournaments for no reasonIgnoring joycon driftGoing hardball against emulation and then refusing to port 20+ year old gamesAsking fans to link their favorite nintendo songs are so they can takedown all music videos>inb4 "but previous companies started it first!"oh ok, I guess killing is good now because I'm not the first murderer eversuck-a my dick
>>749895345>Wouldn't it be nice if Nintendo let you roll back OOT to version 1.0Those games were released on console in a finished state, but I suppose "1.0" is another way to say "Early Access" when it comes to modern slop so the confusion is understandable.>You have the freedom to tinker with the files and do whatever you wantAgain, it's just emulation at that point with the hoops you need to jump through, and you have the freedom to do the same with OOT or whatever old Nintendo game you want so why are you acting as if you are completely locked out of their catalogue?
>>749880701Other way around fucko
>>749895581>Those games were released on console in a finished stateI'm referring to 1.0, before they censored things unnecessarily. Come on, at least try to keep up.>Again, it's just emulation at that point with the hoops you need to jump through, and you have the freedom to do the same with OOT or whatever old Nintendo game you want so why are you acting as if you are completely locked out of their catalogue?I have to wrestle that freedom from nintendo, who keeps locking down their hardware, just to fix their shoddy mistakes. How can they be the good guys if they treat video game consoles like a prison?
>>749895345Yeah man, Nintendo is evil and greedy because I can't install MY roms (they are definitely mine because I definitely ripped them myself and definitely didn't download them from someone else) on my console. And I would definitely NEVER EVER use this hardware vulnerability to EVER pirate any software, I ONLY want to play my old roms (from games I definitely own btw dude trust me) and nothing else.I'm done entertaining delusional vegan mental gymnastics. Keep seething over a random company that doesn't make products for you, it's a great use of your free time, I promise.
>>749895784>people might abuse the software, so let's punish everyone and put DRM into everythingSounds like Nintendo can't be trusted, if they can't put some trust into their userbase. Good thing not every dev is a totalitarian like them.
>>749895435Did he show checking in once after 15 days then waiting 31 days offline and the game failing to launch? That's what you need to do to verify your claim of a 30 day online check-in.
>>749895668>How can they be the good guys if they treat video game consoles like a prison?Because they want people to buy their new consoles? Because they want people who buy their new consoles to have games that justify their purchase?>I have to wrestle that freedom from nintendoWhy are you ignoring the fact that previous consoles are completely cracked open and games are available to you FOR FREE for all of them? Oh no, I really have to wrestle to get every single game since they shut down 1 or 2 sites, guess I'll have to move to the other 100+ sites and torrents that still have them.>Sounds like Nintendo can't be trustedTrusted to hold on to their own games? If you bought the game then why are you so worried about them trying to stop you from illegally obtaining it?
>>749896108>Because they want people to buy their new consoles? Because they want people who buy their new consoles to have games that justify their purchase?That doesn't really justify them being greedy. >Why are you ignoring the fact that previous consoles are completely cracked open and games are available to you FOR FREE for all of them?Because Nintendo keeps throwing stupid lawsuits around to get emulation outlawed, and of course you always victim blame, saying "WELL THIS ONE PIRATE GLOATED ABOUT IT, SO NOW WE HAVE TO SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN". Like complaining that a man is yelling as he's murdered, instead of being against the murder in the first place.>Trusted to hold on to their own games? If you bought the game then why are you so worried about them trying to stop you from illegally obtaining it?Because according to Nintendo, it's illegal for me to even rip roms from my own copy of the game. It's "violating their copyright" by circumventing copy protection.
>>749896108because no matter what a vegan says, it is ALWAYS them getting mad when they can't steal whatever they want with zero pushback. it is never about game preservation, it is never about freedom, it is never about consumer rights. 100% of the time it is "how dare they expect me to pay them for their work!"
>>749896353Careful there, mate. You're getting angry over internet posts again.
>>749888619How old is this shit?https://music.nintendo.com/
>>749896428Kek is this real?
>>749896291>That doesn't really justify them being greedy.Making money is in itself not greed, except to those that don't want to give them money.>Like complaining that a man is yelling as he's murdered, instead of being against the murder in the first place.Yelling as he murders*They are gloating about stealing games and taunting Nintendo, but they cry out as consequences hit the., "How could bragging about distributing a companies games come back to bite me?!">it's illegal for me to even rip roms from my own copy of the gameIt is when you upload it online and start sharing it with everyone. You know why they called it Shareware? Because they explicitly wanted you to share it, and guess what, they didn't feel the same way about the game you actually had to pay for.
>>749896617>Making money is in itself not greed, except to those that don't want to give them money.Gloating about all the money they make on the regular, and then raising prices and hiding selfishly behind tariffs and inflation is pretty greedy, to be honest. You guys never stopped bitching about the price increase of the steam deck, after all.>They are gloating about stealing games and taunting Nintendo,And there it is, assuming that wanting some semblance of freedom is always bad because Nintendo told you so.>It is when you upload it online and start sharing it with everyoneWrong, read the DMCA. It forbids even personal usage when it comes to circumventing DRM.
Any time a company says something like this you are already living on borrowed time. If they truly had plans to continue supporting a physical future they wouldn't even say anything to begin with
>>749896787Remember when sony promised to keep supporting used games? They even made a cute promotional vid for it.Boy, that aged badly.
The only thing Nintendo has stayed 100% consistent about is that they do not like the achievements/trophies system and believe it devalues the fun of a game where the reason you should be playing is to have fun not unlock fake digital trophies. Everything else they flip flop on.
>>749896854Dont kid icaurus and super smash bros have trophy systems?
>>749896446>paying a subscription to listen to a limited selection of nintendo music which you aren't allowed to sharejesus, I'm sold!
>>749896732>Gloating about all the money they make on the regularThe tariff sale was the stupidest way to justify one and yet craziest thing they've done considering they hate putting their games on sale.>assuming that wanting some semblance of freedom is always badName a company that wants you to take their games and distribute them for free.>Wrong, read the DMCARead the DMCA, at best they'd be fine with you making up to a few backup copies in case your disc might break. Is that more freedom, having a limited amount of rips available to you? Or is it different now?>>749896927It's in-game unlockables, they still don't have trophies tied to accounts.
>>749896938Don't forget, it requires an active subscription. MP3s with DRM in them, truly innovative Nintendo. Making Sony proud.
>>749896938I don't get the sub for the songs. I do it to play online and get it thrown in as an extra along with the retro games.It still counters the point that they are becoming officially available.
>>749896991>It's in-game unlockables, they still don't have trophies tied to accounts.It's the same carrot on a stick psychology. Nobody cares about the forgettable unlockable they just want the proof of completing the challenge just like the achievement hunter.
>>749896991>The tariff sale was the stupidest way to justify one and yet craziest thing they've done considering they hate putting their games on sale.And it was barely even worthwhile. Which one of their flagship titles went on sale for 99% off? They couldn't even put their older titles on sale like that. Meanwhile you can buy the whole Half Life/Portal/Left4dead franchises together for about 5 bucks on sale. >Name a company that wants you to take their games and distribute them for free.Fractal Softworks, Re-logic, Subset Games, Yacht Club, any company that doesn't put DRM in their games.>Read the DMCA, at best they'd be fine with you making up to a few backup copies in case your disc might break.Wrong. See: https://cdt.org/insights/ownership-and-copyright-law-legal-fences-between-you-and-your-purchases/>Section 1201 of the DMCA prohibits circumventing technological protection measures (TPMs) that control access to a work protected by copyright. These TPMs act as digital locks securing the copyrighted software embedded in everything from mobile phones and pacemakers to cars and tractors. While these locks may prevent some unauthorized copying (which is already illegal), they also prevent device and auto owners from accessing their copy of the software for legitimate reasons, like diagnosing and repairing problems, retrieving personal data, or modifying the software to suit their needs.
>>749897051But why do you need an active subscription? Why can't they just offer it without?
>>749896846How times change
>>749897162>Nobody cares about the forgettable unlockableIn Smash and now Air Riders it's new characters and gameplay, not always points or cosmetics.
>>749897182>Which one of their flagship titles went on sale for 99% offSo you just want the games for free.>any company that doesn't put DRM in their games.God you are a fucking idiot if you really think they don't want to make any money and hope everyone steals their game.>Wrong>cdtI thought you said Nintendo.
>>749880547If only they made games I wanted to play outside of Metroid, Zelda, and Xenoblade.
>>749897396>God you are a fucking idiot if you really think they don't want to make any money and hope everyone steals their game.Clearly they trust their audience enough to not shove invasive DRM in their faces, on a platform supposedly rife with piracy, and yet they all saw quite a bit of success.
>>749897182>you can buy the whole Half Life/Portal/Left4dead franchises together for about 5 bucks on saleThose games are only worth $5. When's the last time Factorio went on sale?
>>749897515The dev explicitly said that he'd rather people pirate his game if they can't afford it. How pro-consumer. His game also doesn't have DRM in it.
>>749897489>and yet they all saw quite a bit of success.Enough success from putting it on platforms with DRM in order to make sure they actually made up for how many people were going to pirate.
>>749897592>The dev explicitly said that he'd rather people pirate his game if they can't afford it.He said if you're going to buy from G2A to pirate it, because he wanted the full amount of money since he is greedy.
>>749889468Maybe Nintendo shouldn't have allowed the GKC to exist to begin with if it'd only be used by scumfucks.
>>749897051>It still counters the point that they are becoming officially available.You'd get better value just buying a bin of old used nintendo games and recording the audio to a microphone. That would technically be "official"
>>749897610>Enough success from putting it on platforms with DRMakshually, the first company I named was behind Starsector, a PC exclusive. >>749897727If he was greedy, he would've put DRM in his game.
>>749894271Oh? So if I buy a game key card, I can just put it directly into my console no downloads or internet needed and start playing, even the very first time?
>>749880547>Nintendo is the only company selling physical games anymoreLike it or not they are the last bastion of consumer protection.
>>749897787>If he was greedy, he would've put DRM in his game.He actively shut down keys sold through G2A and received complaints from people when their game stopped working, and the fact people could make a profit by buying the game cheap is why they decided to continue never doing a sale.How is that not greedy?
>>749897847nope sorry, physical games are shitty and evil because everything nintendo does is demonic
>>749897839So if you want to buy a digital game do you need to download it or have internet?
I love how much this interview pisses off baldy that he needs to put on his vegan persona to cope
>>749897903>He actively shut down keys sold through G2A and received complaints from people when their game stopped working, and the fact people could make a profit by buying the game cheap is why they decided to continue never doing a sale.Sounds like people were abusing the system, so he opted to just approve of people going around it.
>Nintendo wants to keep making physical games>UHHH THIS IS BAD BECAUSEYou retarded niggers. If we lose nintendo it's OVER don't you mongs understand it?
>>749898114>to just approve of people going around it.Because they fought to shut down people actively losing him money.Hm, wait a minute. He went after and stopped people from selling his game cheaper on G2A, but knew there were people still pirating?Hey, that sounds like what a certain other company does.
>>749898270>Because they fought to shut down people actively losing him money.From a site full of scammers who steal credit cards? What's the problem?
>>749898343Exactly, he was selling the game at his price point and people were selling it with stolen cards cheaper out in the open.If they were being blatantly open about it, what's the problem with him going after them?
>>749898432He had no problem with people pirating his game, he just didn't want people committing a felony to buy it from a shady reseller. Pirating a game is a civil offense.
>>749898195vegans don't care because they don't get physical games anymore. they are more than happy to drag everyone else down to their level in typical crab bucket fashion
>>749880547Nintendo is simply neutral, they only appear relatively good because Microsoft and Sony are evil.
>>749898621Why do tendies call anyone vegans when you people only play shittendo consoles?
>>749898621>>749898195Why would you downgrade to physical, once you've experienced freedom on PC?
>>749898557This is a massive cope, I've bought dozens of games from g2a. Ive never had an issue. This is the equivalent of telling game stores they can't sell used copies of a game. Pirating isnt a real issue, you only potentially lose sales in the first 3 months the game is out.
>>749898914Buying from G2a is a gamble, though. It's the price you pay for buying essentially used goods. If you want to support the dev, you just buy the game. If you don't want to pay the money, just pirate. Why half-ass it?
>>749880547There's still automatic updates and shit
I apologize to Nintendo. At the time the Switch 2 seemed like overpriced bullshit but in reality they were the good guys
>>749899009A. I dont give a shit about supporting devsB. Pirating games is even more risky, if your ip catches on they'll bitch at youC. The setup involved with pirating certain games is tediousD. I want to own the gameE. I dont agree with the price valuation the devs set for their game
>>749899046If you have the physical game and are disconnected then it won't even check, and as long as you have a game installed it shouldn't bother you either.
>browns getting mad at nintendo again
>>749899180A, B, C and E are solved by just pirating and not living in a third world country. When you actually pirate a game, you own it, so that solves D.
>GKClol
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>>749880547If I need an internet connection to play it, then it doesn't get the label 'physical game'. It might as well be digital if I have to be online to use it.
>>749888619>strict tournament rulesBathing and not sexually assaulting women aren't 'strict' rules anon.
>>749899740I'd rather do both at once if I'm gonna get banned anyway.
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>>749894304Japan literally made huge investments into our plants so anon is definitely behind.
>>749892548Holy shot, this is huge news for Nintendo.
