I'm playing this for the first time and I have to say, it has aged very well. I forgot how smart classic Zelda makes you feel for figuring out things on your own. Kind of incredible how well Nintendo managed to nail the 3D adaptations of their flagship IPs on the N64
>>749996772video games don't age.
>>749996772>requires you to touch the screen to change gear instead of just mapping it to start>there's not even an excuse with the bomber's guide since that's already also mapped to select>nevermind zl/zr doing nothing despite this game made with the new 3ds's existence in mind, and the right nub's camera control is still wonkySuch a fucking downgrade
>inb4 reatrds start sperging about how the 3DS improved the game at the cost of inconsequential nonsense like using ice arrows anyway
>>749996826neither do enigmas, ever notice that?
>>749996772Yeah, that's why I hope they remake MM after OoT, I think people who haven't played it before will love it, as long as they can get past the time limit. Not that a remake is necessary, but I think the OoT remake's style would fit MM.
>>749996826ha, just like tendies!
>>749996772Make sure you play the 3DS version and not the jank original.
I've heard they stripped much of the darker tone from the original when they made 3D. Is that true?
>>749996772yeah they got it down pretty good, though they had to compromise with the scope of the overworld to get it to work on the hardware of the time. Every time I replay ALttP I'm always amazed at the fact that they could fit two distinct maps into the thing. >>750000237visually yeah it's less creepy,
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>>749996772The 3DS demake sucks ass, and ruins both the mood and the gameplay of MM.Go play the OG / the PC decomp of the N64 game.
>>750000123>>750000237>>749996772The 3D port is babby-tier easier, and they ruined every single transformation mask's movement / skills. Deku scrub cannot do fast hops, Zora cannot do fast swimming and jumps without magic, and Goron rolling also is nerfed.To add insult to injury, Ice arrows no longer freeze ANY plane of water, and all bossfights have these ugly glowing eye weak spots + 3 stages, for no reason.Once again: play the OG N64 version. The PC port is the way to go.
>>749998291they'll remake it and get rid of the time reset mechanic because it's too player unfriendly
>>750002394N64 zeldas are so aggressively, criminally ugly, I have no idea how can people put up with their visuals, and no amount of turning up the resolution to 8k on pc will fix thatThe 3DS remakes actually look like charming low poly games
>>750003224>N64 zeldas are so aggressively, criminally uglyEverything after looks worse
>>750002394They made it better, the game is already easy as fuck.
>>750002301What even changed meaningfully?
>>749996772I thought the atmosphere was a bit "thinner", but it being on a handheld kind of makes that moot.I don't really give a shit about the giant eyes that everyone complains about. I think aesthetically it works, and in the original figuring out the weak points of the bosses was never the hard part.
>>750003224The visuals were great for the time being.OoT was literally the game that taught me what "graphics" even means, as one of my friends literally praised its looks back in the day.>>750003426Wrong. Even OoT3D fanboys shat on that garbage day 1.>>750003498Half this shit won't mean anything to you / spoil shit if you've not played the OG yet, but to list some of the most insulting ones from the top of my head:>Deku has incredibly slow acceleration, which makes any movement as a Deku, especially across lily pads, very painful>Zora Swimming is now awful; why do I have to blow all my magic to move fast (regular speed on N64)??>Ice arrows are now next to useless, as you can no longer freeze ANY plane of water. Only specific spots marked with magical sparkles.>You get the Bomber's Notebook AUTOMATICALLY, from the Mask salesman, after you go back time for the 1st time.>The bombers notebook coming up with a 5-10 second notification EVERY TIME you complete one single task, HOLY SHIT this is annoying! >Extra handholding on top of the not-Navi, in form of the literal video tutorial Sheik stones that litter the world.ALL the boss fight changes are fucking terribad:>Odolwa and Goht just feel like slower, more scripted and more limited versions of the old fights.>Gyorg's turned into 2-phase slop, with the first phase being nothing but "look in the water and shoot". >Twinmold is the worst offender, as the only purpose of the blue mold now is just to be the easy kill for the new donkey kong mask (which btw is also dumb, sword >>> punching) .>The red mold takes forever, because he has some stupid amount of HP! I also personally hate the new art style.In short, the MM3D can only be considered a "good game", because the base is still Majora's Mask... but it's like the worst Netflix x Foxkids adaptation of the thing, not the real deal.If you "must" play this trash version then at least look up the fan-made "Restoration patch" mod.
>>749996772The bomber notebook in 3d mind as well be a game guide you worthless fucking secondary
>>750002394I know you're referencing a particular youtube video essay and not the actual game itself. I think that's dishonest.
>>750003901>in the original figuring out the weak points of the bosses was never the hard part.In the OG you did NOT need to "figure out" the weak points, just how to get your attacks to LAND.The Odolwa bossfight is a prime example of this:you could use your entire arsenal if you wanted, and it would work.Now, the creepy atmosphere is gone, and Deku scrub flowers are MANDATORY.
>>750003987Sorry kid, but no, I am not.I was actually here already 15 fucking years ago, when this piece of shit dropped.OoT3D was already insulting as fuck, but the MM3D was a whole another case of AIDS.Go back to cry about your e-celebs else where. The 3DS de-makes suck ass.
They made the turtle in the great bay cartoony lmao
If it makes you guys feel any better, I played OoT on Wii Virtual Console
>>750003946I don't care what anyone thinks, I only deal in objectivity, and the 3DS version is unarguably superior.
>>749996772While I hate 3D Zelda I'll give Majora's Mask a pass. Pretty decent game.
>>750004445>Well **I** like to drive on the wrong side of the road for funzies!! :^)You're an autitstic contrarian hipster, with no arguments.
>>749997601Downgrade from what? The original didn't have any of that either you birdbrain.
>>750004124I was here 30 years ago, when the original dropped. I like both. Just saying.
>>750004653I've BTFO you faggots way too many times, the amount of quality of life changes to the game is a mile long. If you're retarded to understand that, then just go jack off elsewhere.
>>750003946Nigger, the N64 games barely had an art style, it was just polygons smooshed together because Nintendo still hadn't got the grasp of how to make a full body without using basic shapes and billboarded 1kb textures.
>>750004750>the amount of quality of life changes to the game is a mile long.Yet you cannot even name any.>>750004785>Nigger, the N64 games barely had an art styleThey did. You just literally do not get it.
>>750004863I've listed it dozens of times, you faggots always run away. You're not interested in discussions, and besides, what discussion is there to even have here. I'm only interested in objectivity, and objectively the 3DS version has dozens and dozens of positive changes to the game. It's the definitive version.
>>750004863No, I get it, it's literally basic shapes wrapped in low res billboarded textures, other than a couple of mildly interesting landmarks like the mountain being pink or the entrance to the canyon dungeon being face shaped everythingg is just cubes and triangles, even Mario had more of an artstyle with its lollipop trees.
>>75000473626*. I vaguely remember it being late 90's but apparently it was 2000!
>>750004659actual unironic retard, almost certainly brown tookys
>>750005061>I've listed it dozens of times, you faggots always run away.So do it again then.Acting tough is not going to work with me.>>750005065>No, I get it, it's literally basic shapes wrapped in low res billboarded textures,You don't even get the right terminology down, buster.>verythingg is just cubes and trianglesThat's every single 3D game ever, kiddo.Show me a better looking, fully 3-dimensional game from the 5th generation.
>>750005438Not even Nerrel believes his own bullshit, he made a romhack that used the 3DS version as the base. If he thought it was irredeemable dogshit, he would have tweaked a couple of things. That's what objectivity or nuance looks like, whether you're smart enough to realize is on you.
>>750006201*he wouldn't havebut he did, so,
>>749996772I liked the 3ds ocarina but did not think this game was done justice
>>750004659>press start on majora's mask 64>menu openswoahhhhhhhhhhhhh
>Modded OOT3D>Modded MMRecompYep, it's gaming time
>>750002720>they'll remake it and get rid of the time resetHow would that even work?
>>750007304NTA, but I have my own ideas. I would set the game out through a week, and increase the amount of time during the days, but yeah with no reset song, no fast forward song, and no slowdown time song.
>>750007207>Modded OOT3Dwhat mods
>>750005438>Show me a better looking, fully 3-dimensional game from the 5th generation.Megaman LegendsKirby64Banjo KazooieCrashSpyroVagrant story MGS1Legacy of Kainthese all look good, some great evenn64 zeldas just look like ass
>>750007930>single screen experience>various texture mods to tweak the brightness>code to make ganon's blood red again
>>750008262oh shit, nice, remember searching for something like this a year ago and not finding anything back then
>>750008774The single screen one is pretty new, and the texture ones are kind of disparate and a pain in the ass to collate, and I ended up making a couple of my own since there was still some neon water. But I think it's worth it. Overall I really like how the game looks
>>750007645So the whole game is on a time limit like pikmin or something? What happens if you can't finish it in the in game week?
>>750009636Then you start over with no progress. You remember what you tried and what worked and what didn't, give it another shot.
>>750011096That sounds awful
>>750011543People said that too back then.
>>750011807Yeah, but your idea sounds really bad.
>>750012362There's an entire genre to be enjoyed there, and they've never been bigger than 2026
>>749996772Yeah. But if you have a modded 3DS, you have to stop what you're doing and patch it with something called Project Restoration right now.They screwed up the boss fights and added so many unnecessary pauses to the game's flow in the remaster on 3DS by adding 100s of new notifications in the Bomber's Notebook. The bosses are completely static now, where they can't be damaged unless they're entered a Twilight Princess esque "...and now you can damage them!" phase, while in the original you could always damage a boss if you could reach them, but there were additional mechanics to topple them or get them where you wanted them. And then they added huge eyeballs to all of them to make Link know when to do it.They also made Zora Link's swimming control more awkwardly now where it was also dynamic before. GREZZO was given notes on things to fix and they fucked it up.Other than that it's a great remake and it looks really nice.
>>750012960lol the Zora controls are great now, you have it backwards
