The piracy debate between Japs and the rest of the world is really heating up
>>750077475Based. Japs need to stop sucking corporate dick
>>750077475KEK
>Noooo! you can't pirate a 20 year old game that is no longer on the market!! It's disrespectful to this company I don't work for!What's wrong with them?It's like they go full Frank Grimes when they realise other people just aren't following the rules, and don't give a fuck.
>>750077475No debate. Without piracy there is no preservation. No past. And no standards. Without pirates the bad guys destroy the world.
Japs can walk down to the local market and pick up a copy of a 20 year old game for $3They don't realize in the west this is impossible and now that I've baited you into reading this post ban all twitterniggers spamming their screenshots here right now
>>750078665This. Japs have a warped innocent and child like view of reality because they live in a fantasy land
>>750077475Piracy is culturally compatible with Japan.They know the "Wokou", わこう
>>750077475>LoI>anyone's favorite
Time to drop the Third Shot.
>>750077475Okay that's funny. Though to be honest, gooks beat them in the NTR scene now.
>>750077475Code? Sounds hot
>>750077475lmao based, fuck NTRniggers
>>750078785Its my 2nd favorite Japanese made 3d Castlevania.
>>750077475>Russians talking about cucking when they live in a shithole where if they don't go to the frontline to die for the motherland they get raped in the gulags, and if they go, they also get raped in the barracks.
>>750078665I'm sure that's part of it but Japs have also just been the biggest corporate bootlickers in the world, for some reason, so they would still behave the same way if that wasn't the case.This wasn't an issue in the past when Jap corporations were based but now that they got infiltrated the same as Western corporations, Japs are quickly becoming insufferable.
Japanese copyright white knights are the most pathetic faggots on earth
>>750077475Shamefur dispray......
>>750077475You know you can just stop consuming japshit right? Made in japs must be bad if you hate them so much
Japan doesn't get piracy for the same reason they such shit at making software. They never had the "hacker" culture of the 80s/90s of dudes just trying to do cool shit with their computers the way america and europe did.
>>750077475>236.1k viewsyou fucks still haven't learned to keep your mouths shut when it comes to roms and emulators and piracy in general, literally the most subhuman thing to do, just shut the fuck up and play your video games
>>750079269Then why play their softwares?
>>750077475Americans and their bibishi niggas are to blame. Case closed.
>>750078665If I tried the same, the only thing I would find is a bunch of sports games for like 99 cents.
>>750079479I ask the same question when Korea and China are making their games look like Jap games, despite having the biggest hate boner for Japan. lol
>>750077475i can't believe dogura started the racewar, and all over tekken lmao
>>750079479Most of the people attacking japs grew with and made japanese culture their whole identity.
>>750079430>blaming on foreigners that dont even buy your content legally, that you love to produce NTR trashJap are literal bugs
>>750079479Just like the "french" rioters looting and destroying anime shops while cosplaying anime characters
>>750078552Toys aren't art, and aren't worth preserving. We don't need to preserve children's toys.
>>750080214If they're frivolous bullshit and aren't worth preserving, then why does it matter if I pirate them?Can't have it both ways.
>>750080326lol what a gross misuse of the both ways. Piracy/theft effects the economy which I'm part of, including the second hand market. Imagine walking up to a toy store owner and going "WELL THESE ARE JUST TOYS WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF I STEAL THIS OFF YOUR SHELF?!?">Bu-buh-buh that's physical! I make a cop-Shut up.And then on top of that, "it doesn't matter" isn't a good reason FOR you to pirate (aka steal) in the first place. Why SHOULD you deserve a functioning copy of the game in the first place, ESPECIALLY if "it doesn't matter"?
>>750080520This is a dumbass argument considering second hand stores by their nature enrich resellers instead of the ip owner or creators no different than piracy, except piracy isn't making someone rich ripping off fools like you
>>750077475>japs when you don't pay $200 for an objectively 3/10 PS2 game
>>750080878>considering second hand stores by their nature enrich resellers instead of the ip owner or creators no different than piracy,I never said that. I'm not arguing about creator's intent like the retarded Japs do. I'm arguing it affects the economy, and you just copped to that. Congrats. You just played yourself.You also didn't answer WHY you deserve to steal a copy in the game, be tee dubs.
>>750077475NOOOO!! CORPORTATION-SAMA, I WILL DEFEND YOU SO CEO CAN BUY ANOTHER PENTHOUSE!! YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS YOU WHITTU PIGGU!!
>>750078552Laws must be followed regardless of how stupid they are. It's why Japan is so clean but also why there's retarded red tape bureaucracy.
>>750081018>It's why Japan is so clean but also why there's retarded red tape bureaucracy.This is really understated in a lot of these conversations.>Every retarded westerner: BWAHAHAHA LOOK AT THESE RETARDED JAPS, NOT STEALING FROM EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO GET THEIR OWN! HAHAHAHAHA BE MORE LIKE US JAPS!>The same exact retarded westerners: Uh, why the fuck is Japan so clean and free of crime? That's amazing, why can't we have that here?
>>750077475jej
>>750081103The 90s in western countries were high trust societies AND piracy was common.
I find funny that americans are raving on endlessy about immigrants and browns destroying their country, but they engage in the same behavior with japanese culture. You have your own garbage games and culture, why not keep to yourselves?
>>750077475fucking got em
>>750081195>AND piracy was common.This is just straight up a lie. You're talking about a decade where sitcoms would have a plot where the mom would find weed in a kid's room and there would be serious discussion and talks of police action over it. There was piracy, but that was strictly limited to computer conventions which was already incredibly niche as it is.Piracy didn't really start becoming a widespread issue until napster in 1999 (which, yes, technically still 90s) taught the normies how to bittorrent, and then it got worse with high-speed internet spreading around 2005-2008 era.
how do pirates reconcile with the fact they are solely responsible for always-online, drm, and subscription cloud gaming?
>>750081450You're debating with a turnstile jumper
>>750081450
>>750081018No, laws are there to stop the worst of society from ruining everything else for everyone else.And while pirating a 20 year old game may be technically illegal, it's clearly a victimless crime, and so anyone with sense doesn't really give a fuck. If it was legal to punch people in the face, you still shouldn't do it. Only an insect allows the law to dictate their every behavior. Laws should exist to serve us, not the other way around.
>>750078552they live next to china and take copyright infringement seriouslyamericans act the same with mexico and mexicans
>>750077475Rampant piracy killed a lot of smaller hobbyist software developers in the 90s/early 00s in Japan, so the newer wave of otaku are ridiculously anti-piracy. The older otaku just know that if you're going to pirate, you should shut the fuck up about it. It's mainly the younger, newgen otaku that constantly moralfag about piracy.It's kind of a mirror to piracy in the west. The older generation pirates knew to keep their head down because it was illegal and in the highly unlikely event that you get singled out by a lawsuit, they absolutely can and will come down and rape your ass so hard you'll still be feeling it for the rest of your fucking life, meanwhile the newer generation absolutely will not shut the fuck up about how it's "morally correct to pirate nintendo games" and how it's "actually super easy to mod a 3DS" not to single out Nintendo, but PC Pirates are slightly less retarded, and the only games that need special attention are NIntendo games, because everything else is already on PC
>>750081761In a civilized society we obey the laws that govern us even when we disagree with them, instead of breaking them using whatever logic you pulled out of your ass as an excuse. If we believe a law is unjust we vote for representatives that support changing it so they can amend or repeal the laws through the established legislative process. But this concept must be too difficult for you third worlders to grasp.>Insects have legal systems!!!You are literally a monkey.
>>750077475>russniggers, the prime examples of raped serf cattle, mocking anyone about cuckingThe Ukrainian FPVs demand more zigger blood
>>750082159Ironic how Asians are pretending to believe in the White values we forced on them after destroying their countries. And now they’re acting like the authorities on the manner? What a joke.
>>750077475people are retarded on both sides, a lot of westerners just being up Gabe because it the easy argument to make, and shows they aren't really capable of expanding on it and utilize it as a crutch, same thing happened with SKG, you had real arguments to utilize but chose the easy path of thinking being in the right wansots own argument
Not only this thread is extremely retarded because it's a xitter screencap thread, these sharty faggots have been hellbent to spread this low effort propaganda for months and they cry hard when their threads get deleted, pure monkey behavior. Alsohttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/lgJHKHmYyM6jErCBrOgXsQ/This braindead retard has been spamming AI fake tweets.
>>750081450>umm no actually there was no piracy because weed was considered badAre you deeply retarded or what
>>750081450nigga people just straight up recorded shit that was on TV and shared it with their friends
>>750077475Link the tweet. The QTs and replies are gonna be infinitely better than anything posted ITT.
>>750083174Truly chimp behavior, how low has 4chan gotten.
>>750077475japs : piracy is absolutely haram!!!!also japs :
>>750083341Those are just disgusting wh*te gaijins invading the glorious motherland.
>>750081962>Rampant piracy killed a lot of smaller hobbyist software developers in the 90s/early 00s in Japanproof?
>>750083341And that's why xitter is irrelevant and any retard engaging in that shit (and posting it here) deserve to be shot, but the resident monkeys are too stupid to understand that.
>>750083341is like playing russian roulette
>>750083478What do you think happened to the PC-98 devs that aren't around anymore?
>>750083465you wish faggotthey even have their own piracy network like share, winny, and perfect dark
>>750077475I usually don't like emulating but they have literally NEVER re-released Lament of Innocence. There is nothing wrong emulatng that game in particular.
>>750083341nigga there are 50000 mutts stationed in japan, its them pirating
>>750081753>recording broadcast tv was piracy A retard is you. I waited 20 you cal you out for being a retard. Retard.
>>750083796Downloading things on the internet also isn’t piracy. It’s not piracy unless you have a bigass boat.
>>750078552part of it is japanese law saying that if you don't enforce copyright it stops being yoursanother part is japanese simply not being stupid and realizing if you don't buy games they stop getting madeage is irrelevant. encouraging some of the behavior some of the time encourages all of the behavior all of the time
It's well established that japanese gamers are unusually rich.
>>750083734>>750083610
>>750083863To me this is one of the more reasonable arguments>why don’t they make games for me anymore? I don’t pay for any of them, how dare they!Vote with your wallet, it’s the only thing anyone cares about
By the way, lmao, imagine waiting for hours to still posting this shit at the moment the Cloudflare system got reactivated.
>>750084138You are assuming that these people aren't bots
>>750084547It's not the "gun do" spammer so I should say they're the terminally online sharty retards raiding the board 24/7
found the most sensible jap and I agree with himI don't understand why so many people boast about pirating on main nowadaysjust shut the fuck up and enjoy your free shit in secret
>>750084754Because I can pirate everything with impunity. Only in first-world countries do people who don't know about VPNs get fined tens of thousands of dollars or are scared that torrents are equal to viruses.
>>750084754Wasn’t this all started over a rollback mod for an unavailable fighting game? That seems reasonable to talk about online.
>>750084754Ignorant idiots who post EVERYTHING they do on their daily lifes, console warriors/PC vegans trying to piss off each others, undercover fags trying to get the attention of the big companies, clout, you name it. In the end, social media was a mistake, this shit was restricted to closed communities so it wasn't widespread.
>>750083341Honne and tatemaeJaps do pirate, it's just that speaking against piracy publicly looks good
>>750079430Meds. Unironically. What the actual fuck.
>>750084754Not my fault that Takeshi is so fun to bully.
>>750085359It's an AI spammers, look>>750082890
>>750081753While there was major concern over the VCR, you were still recording the commercials which was the money making aspect of TV anyway.Early on many people didn't even fast forward through commercials because it was slow, often would blank out the screen and you might miss part of the actual show. If anything the VCR made TV shows more profitable because more people could watch more shows and get invested in long form stories. Commercials would also be viewed by more people than just watching live. The VCR is not really a good comparison here, especially when you factor in that recordings were of lower quality than watching live unlike old vidya which have mods and updates that make them superior to the original.>t. old
>>750084754Third worlders have really ruined the internet
There it is, the bot is here
>>750084698Idk man. I just now figured that this site is actually being raided by biligerent shitskins after experiencing 8moe where india,israel, and russia are rangebanned. Makes so much sense really with how much everyone seethes here.
>>750085560yes, americans and white swedes/danes/etc aren't degeneratesdegeneracy is concentrated in anti progressive brown coutnries, duh
>>750085309One crazy thing is how Nintendo consoles have been historically the easiest one to hack and emulate, and Nintendo never actually bother to do anything about them for decadesThen these loud pirates start to pop up and even blatantly taunting them like that one streamer who ended up getting fined a ton of moneyNow they kill all recent emulation efforts like the 3Ds and the Switch ones, and they made Switch 2 hard as fuck to hack
>>750078665japs actually can't do that anymore because their game stores have been plundered by american resellers. they've had to start banning gaijin from game stores.
Totally unsurprising that the majority of piracy discourse is coming from third worlders.
>>750077475Why do brownmongonoids excuse their use of the word, "Japs" by saying it's an outdated slur and that no one says it that way anymore only to then use it in a negative connotation like a racial slur?
>>750077475That's weak shit. Show them a collection of pirated Comiket releases. Doujin music downloaded by hundreds from each event. THAT will fuck them up.
>>750086672I can smell the rotten kimchi from this post. Never engage in monkey behavior like this retard.
>>750086092Even if japs make their games available to them, thirdies would still have to deal with their hyperinflated meme currencies, which will just make them pirate the game.
>>750086839*chinese
>>750086839See, you're shaking in your boots just from imagining it. Happy to disappoint you but everyone does this, not just your country's net enemies.
>>750087023Why are chinks so based?
*ahem*japanese war crimes in world war 2
>>750082159>In a civilized society we obey the laws that govern us even when we disagree with them,That's how you end up with corrupt tyranny where you snitch on people for wrongthink and end up with everyone hating eachother and being slaves.>If we believe a law is unjust we vote for representatives that support changing it so they can amend or repeal the laws through the established legislative processDoesn't work when you have a blatant uniparty that dictates every single thing, and both "sides" agree to do the same thing. And if someone tries to shake up the system, they end up committing suicide in a shady apartment via shotgun blast to the back of the head. You ever ask yourself why no party in this country has ever voted to stop giving Israel money? Just something to ponder.
>>750077475Imagine being a fat, ugly, bastard and a jap couple tries to hire you to make the dude become a cuck but you look at him like a misunderstood chinese man expected to know how to kong fu
>>750087129All these chinese uploads are nothin but a literal circlejerk of AI generated gachasluts cosplayersAnd let me tell you they're fucking OBSESSED
>>750081761That's all well and good for you, but as for me, I can't pirate... I'm White.I know... I know...I'm sorry.But I just can't pirate... I'm White.
>>750077475We deserve to get everything for free or we'll take it by force
>>750086591Up yours, Raúl
>>750077475someone post the picture of the guy who made touching feeling having a mental breakdown westerners were playing his game
>>750087850Hi shartfag
>>750084754tsmt. first "rule" of piracy is don't fucking brag about it online for internet points like a retard
>>750077475Based ruski.
>>750084754no you don't understand. I pirate and it has to be my entire personality so i can keep up my otacool weeb cred
>>750077475And I'm sure there's people out there who care. I blush for them.
>>750084754Piracy bragging will continue as long as retards keep buying demastered slop collections, that they could easily emulate for a better experience. Nothing wrong with laughing at cattle.
>>750086591Lmao bodied that faggot
>>750088926I also agree the retro game collections are awful, I wanted to play Power Stone 2 on the PC and I downloaded Capcom Fighting Collection 2, only to find out it's not even the full game, it's the limited arcade version and it's not a PC port anyway, just emulated. Plus it's part of a random assortment of other games.If I had bought the Capcom Fighting Collection 2, I would still have to emulate the game to play it anyway, so I'm glad I didn't pay any money for it. And after this kind of thing happens so many times you never want to pay for anything, you can't trust anything, it's awful.
>>750088926Bragging is extreme monkey behavior, you should simply pirate and shut up. Social media addicts are a blight.
>>750089161That's on you for being ignorant about what are you playing. Do your research before feeling like a fool. (And the "full game" part of yours is too funny).
>>750088926Enjoy everything becoming switch 2 exclusive then, you were warned.>t-t-t-t-t-t-two more weeks amirite?More like 2 weeks ago, this has already begun.
I love anime and jap games but japs themselves are genuinely cucked subhumans.
>>750079741This is fucking hate. God damn does it seem there has been a massive wave of normalgroid secondaries.Especially One Piece. I mean I know its shonen shit and always been popular but it's ridiculous.
>>750089602>t. loud subhuman
>>750085756>"alleged"
>>750078552The fundamental difference is that in the west, laws are there to prevent harm to others, in the east, it's to maintain the social contract and order.So, in the west, if there is no harm, as the saying goes "no harm, no foul", breaking the law is seen as trivial or unsubstantial. In the east, if you break the law, like jaywalking, you are disrupting the social contract as a pedestrian, and are now seen as outside of society, unpredictable, and immoral as a result.I hope that makes sense. That's why, in their view, the only way to move forward is to wait for either the law to change, or just don't do it at all.
>>750089536I don't know what you're talking about. I said I downloaded the game and played it, and it turned out to be not what it said it was... I think you read a totally different post.I never paid for it. I downloaded and played it to see.And yeah, the full game is missing from the Collection, since it's not the Dreamcast version. Very confusing and ignorant and low IQ post, about what I expect from /v/, stop wasting my time.
Reminder that you guys are immoral pigs for pirating a PC decomp for a 2 decade old PS3 game
>>750077475>SILENT HILL 2 [GREATEST HITS]>[GREATEST HITS]Ew. We do not talk about Born From a Wish in this house.
>>750077475That "just give up" tweet when most of Japanese fiction is story of heroes triumphing over all odds is confusing. They don't even see their major culture export, the thing that made modern Japan "cool," as anything more than a product. Miyazaki may as well be an ad for laundry detergent to them
>>750077475YAMEROOOOOOOOO
>>750089792Arcade for fucks sake, that's the full version. The Dreamcast stuff are extras if we're pedantic.
>>750089602nah japan is right. Obnoxious pirates is the reason why piracy sites die. Lmaoing at retards that think adspace covers the risk of running one
>>750089536OOOOOOOOH I see, you mean... I'm suppose to not believe a game is what it said it is, and instead of seeing for myself, I should read about it on Reddit... ooooh, see, I'm a actual person, so I just had no idea what you were on about.I guess from your perspective, when a game says "this is Power Stone 2" you assume "tart's not Power Stone 2, I better read about it on Reddit." Yeah I don't really do that, I just look at the game because it's very easy to do.
>>750077475The more I learn of Japan the more I realize they are some of the most subservient corporation-police-state loving cucks in the entire world
>>750089583>his best example is tranime visual novel slop
>>750089961Again you seem very unintelligent. Just crazy. The earlier limited version of a game, that was made for temporary arcade machines... is the full version? And not the version that was actually meant to be released to people that contained all the content?Yep, very strange, interesting. Don't talk to me. I'm sick of talking to idiots on social media garbage.
>keep seeing weeb shit called 'NTR'>finally look up wtf it is>literally just cuckoldryDo japs really need to invent a whole new term to cope with being cucks? Are they that pathetic?
>>750089315Seeing people literally go @FBI @NINTENDO because of some Brazillian going "Super Mario on me phone kkkkkk", will never stop being funny. Stop crying like a baby about piracy and people will stop bringing it up. /v/ is literally the only board that shits itself because of piracy, even /vg/ has links or at least hints to piracy websites. Ffs there's a ton of people who pretend like games don't exist unless they're on Steam, who can't even fathom the concept of downloading Abandonware.
>>750089989Not only you refused to understand, now you're having a meltdown. Come on, I know this is /v/ and you're allowed to behave like a retard, but this shit is not funny.
>>750089969In general japan has a surprisingly big piracy scene, and their private trackers are comically easy to get into as long as you can somewhat fluently speak japanese and do some basic google searching to find the entry point.They all have the mentality old white pirates had of "keep this shit under wraps and pretend you're a buying customer" to make it go under the bridge as quietly as possible however.Back around 2023 we already had a "japan doesn't understand piracy!" debacle where a lot of JP users tried to subtly tell the westoids "do not bring light into this, it will only cause trouble for everyone" but westoids now are too ape-like to really understand shit, so this time around they tried the more direct approach of "Stop talking about this you fucking ape" and westoids just chimped out harder instead of getting the point.Journos somehow trying to make nintendo piracy a justified moral crusade which ended up bleeding into all mediums was one of the biggest mistakes westoids have done in the modern age, if that didn't happen then the switch 2 would be as easy to jailbreak as the switch 1 or even the 3DS because nintendo wouldn't have cared.
>>750080214Agreed, we should stop preserving hollywood slop and keep preserving video games. Nobody needs those goytoys anyway, it was always just an elaborate scheme to fuck young girls.
>>750090037ACbald, you should understand by now that's how it begins.Only AAAslop can't really afford to not be a multiplat, but don't come crying when basically literally everything else is switch exclusive or at the bare minimum has no PC port outside some godforsaken JP store no westoids know.
>>750090090Maybe xitter is better for you, they get into this kind of shitstorm 24/7.
>>750089583>moeshit licenseslop is console exclusivenooooooooooooooooooo
>>750081450NahBack in the floppy disk days of the 80s and early 90s piracy was a much bigger issue than today because you had very few establishments selling software off the shelves. People found it much more convenient to just copy a buddy's floppy instead of putting in a mail order with the company and waiting who knows how many days/weeks for your (often overpriced) copy to arrive. It was a service and supply issue to such an extent that it directly contributed to Amiga's demise, among other smaller scale companies.This was the workshop period of home computing, when those who had the relevant hardware were the nerds who also knew how to get around the rules. You could remove the write protection of a floppy disk by taping over a corner, you could burn CD-Rs, you could download shit off a BBS with your silly 56k modem etc. Piracy was rampant, unpoliced and actually harmful because there was an almost perfect overlap between the companies' target audience and the potential pirates.Napster dropped when piracy had essentially become a non-issue. At this point software was plenty available in specialized stores, patches were posted online, everything had standardized around PCs, and the nerds now had the money to spend on it all, too. Napster/Kazaa/torrents merely serve the kids and casuals who aren't really potential paying customers in the first place.
>>750090139>Stop crying like a baby about piracy and people will stop bringing it up. lmao noat this point monkeys made piracy some sort of virtue signaling statement to stick it to le manif people (and frankly trolls just spamming the joke like "LE FBI OPEN UP" whenever someone posts any girl that isn't a hag) stop reacting to it then we will just be back to 2024 where multiple companies constantly killed piracy sites due to the monkeys moving on from bragging to randos to bragging directly to said companies trying to get a reaction
>>750090387Naruto taught me to never give up!!!!
wh are western normie sharing publicly all their illegal act ?Gatekeeping wasn't a mistake
And now, the entire western sphere took the bait and sre engaged into the mass trolling of xitter users. Truly pathetic.
>>750090332Doesn't sound like a problem for indies and fangames. Sorry if profit is the only thing your consolegroid ass cares about. please, enjoy your shitty demakes and AAA slop.
>>750077475Fun times ahead
>>750090579Noooo not muh honoraburu Japones twitter users
>>750079430>BiBiSheeMy sides.
>>750090537if this were true then you would just join the otaku club that knows how to larp as a jp user and buy directly regardless
>>750090387This is why we kicked their asses in the war.
>>750090571it's cool to be a snitch nowadays. You get all the fame and clout while the people running these sites end up in jail or receive heavy fines for unwanted attention
>>750090579Only « les nègres » and « Bougnoule»
>weLardasses thinking they can larp as state dogs.
>>750090619baldnigga, fangames are on the chopping block after piracy gets hit enoughyou should know this given both megaman and pokemon already went through like five different instances of nuking even FE romhacks have had two rounds of nuking over the yearsand indies are even worse when JP indies already don't come out of japan anymore unless a decently big publisher bankrolls the localization >but i dont care about jp games lolenjoy your vampire survivors deckbuilder roguelite friendslop for the rest of eternity theneither that or badly modding jp game mods that are old enough to be your absentee dad
There's no debate. Japs do pirate. They just don't state it publicly to save face
>>750078746Nips could literally leave a bowl a candy out this Halloween and fellow nipples would only take one. They don't get it.
>>750090387The Americans buckbroke the Japs way too hard, this isn't even funny anymore.
>>750090571Since 2016 or so westoid culture just became glorified crime culture.
>>750090502>t-they are bragging$5 says those were sockpuppets the companies sent in themselves
I wonder how many of these fags say this shit, but pirate anyways. Romhacking has been a thing since early 2ch days and still happens, even now. Also, I see small-time non-corporate jap vtubers playing roms like it ain't no fuckin' issue. Meanwhile, before the dogshit switch ports, some hololive(?) vtuber wanted to play pokemon firered and had to legally do so on the fucking gamecube game boy player. Fucking lmao. What a joke.
>>750089583Nintendo censors the shit out of games now. There's zero point not to go down the PC release+uncensor patch route
>>750090998>YOUR GAMES ARE GONNA DIE>JUST TWO MORE WEEKSYour tranime visual novel slop will never be good.
>>750078746>>750091031Correction, they treat their fellow humans like fellow humans and expect you to do the same.Fail to abide by this enough and they no longer even treat you as human, which mind you is what literally every single westoid expat bitches about.Do it for long enough and they start seeing you as lesser than an animal and that's how you get shit like unit 731.
>>750091176That's still on the publisher's side
>>750091176>Nintendo censors the shit out of games now.?steam banned this game btw
>>750081962>It's kind of a mirror to piracy in the west. The older generation pirates knew to keep their head down because it was illegalThe fuck are you talking about? Moralfaggotry stems from brainwashing by the MAFIAA>in the highly unlikely event that you get singled out by a lawsuitEveryone hated the MAFIAA suing grannies in the '00s. They got so much backlash they had to stop>tendieThat explains why you're retarded
>>750091105>I wonder how many of these fags say this shit, but pirate anyways.Nyaa gets the most traffic from Japan, by far. A lot of aspects of Japanese culture are incredibly fake.
>>750090998I’m sure any second now Nintendo will shut down all the rom hacks and fan games and the only way to play older pokemon games will be by buying $20 roms.
>>750091073Considering they have an orange ugandan president, my condolences.
>>750079430Hold on, what? Fucking westerners don't want anything to do with NTR. Is he delusional? >>750089810I already got conned buying Tekken 6 officially for ps4. Why they shoved the fucking vita version onto the store instead of the proper game is beyond me.
>>750090483You're talking about specifics, but you're also failing to mention that this was during a time frame where a game became a legendary hit just by selling 100,000 copies, and that most cons where the piracy happened probably hit maybe 500-1,000 people if you were lucky. You're talking about how easy the specifics are, but this doesn't actually highlight numbers or how prevalent it was, which it wasn't.
>>750091291Nintendo had Kanon censored
>>750091327Not a good argument when it's getting increasingly obnoxiously harder to find properly updated switch roms exactly because westoid chimps can't just shut the fuck up already like old times.They have even been hitting the telegram piracy groups since earlier this year now.
>>750091210Two nukes weren’t enough for those actual subhumans. An Asian viewing anyone as inferior is hilarious though.
>>750091374Fucking retard, the first "tweet" is a fucking fake from a recurrent spammer.
>AI models literally trained on pirated material>it's ok when big corpos do it though!like it made sense when AI was an academic novelty, but now that it's a commercial product and trillion dollar business...i'm glad that AI is finally revealing what a joke the modern IP regime is.
>>750091423lolno, that was the dev getting bought out by chinks and pandering to the chink marketit's no coincidence the focus of that rerelease was the chink trannylation
>>750091423*Of America, which are true fags.
>>750091427>PIRACY IS DEAD>EMULATION IS DEAD>NINTENDO WILL DESTROY ALL ROMHACKS AND MODS>SELL YOUR PC AND BUY A SWITCH 2You shills are so shameless.
>>750083341>>750083465>>750083734i have so many fucking japs downloading raw anime from me and they NEVER fucking seed back. fucking gooks.>>750083610share and winny have been dead for fucking years. pd is basically dead too.
>>750091552>>hey can you guys stop literally painting targets on piracy sites? its getting annoying to find some shit and we are at risk of some lesser known stuff unironically becoming lost media unless you buy it>OMG YOU JUST WANT ME TO BE A BUYFAG, SHILLS ARE SO SHAMELESSand this is why less and less people are on the side of pirates now and why the only ones siding with pirates are people that were already unhinged and deranged
>>750091552Nah, the dude you’re replying to is just a deranged fanboy. Like all tendies it’s important to him that Nintendo makes money. He’d murder his own mom to stop people from pirating Nintendo games.
I don't really use twitter so can someone please explain Eddie Guerrero to them. Lie, cheat and steal is one of the most beloved pro wrestling characters of all time. Eddie and Shinzo Abe, two good Christian men gone too soon. Lying, cheating and stealing together in heaven brother.
>>750091639Don't ever expect anyone from japan to seed shit outside a private tracker.
>>750091427>increasingly obnoxiously harder to find properly updated switch roms If you believe this you might be retarded.Scratch that, you are a tendie. Pretty much means you are retarded.
>>750091654>guy who hates pirates and PC gaming and only worships Nintendo: "UGH I WISH I COULD SUPPORT PIRATES, BUT THEY SAID SOMETHING ON TWITTER ONE TIME, SO I HAVE TO SUPPORT NINTENDO"
>>750091654>>750091683Holy shit westoids really are chimps.And it turned out to be a generic nintendo derangement syndrome tard to boot.
The PC vegans went full retard again.
>>750089161At least you learned your lesson.
>>750091654>>750091683Put me in the screencap.
>>750091765Fuck it I agree man. That shits about as hard to do as working for 2 months to buy all the games you need though.
>>750091824>westoid tendie hands typed thisSorry Nintendo can’t kill emulation. I’m sure you’ll get over it.
>>750091210>Do it for long enough and they start seeing you as lesser than an animal and that's how you get shit like unit 731What does that have to do with anything, 731 tortured anyone it could find, it just happened that the majority of people they could find were Chinese. But when they captured Soviets and Americans, they tortured them too. That's what happens when you have the morality = legality mindset and then nazis take over your country and say that torturing babies to death is now legal
>>750091498>>750091530>all this damage controlTell me you're a shill without telling me you're a shill
>>750091945You are a dumb nigger. You are the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen.
>>750091945Buying the games isn't the hard part, you end up owning a bunch of stuff that friends or corpos try to nickel and dime you over.Own a bluray player? Buy the latest edition of our app that runs the discs.Own a console? You need a CRT or a set of high-end component cables to enjoy HD gaming, oh and the cables are a hundred dollars each.Own a handheld? Enjoy having a faded backlight, and the replacement tech is just nestled between good and next-gen so you'll have to choose between which itemization is best for you.
Kek, it was NDS at its finest. No wonder you're so pissed, true vegan behavior.
>>750091498What the fuck is he talking about, there's romance all over Chinese gachas
>>750077475BASED
>>750092059You're trying too hard
>>750092167To do what? :^)
>>750078746>THEY DON'T GET IT BECAUSE THEY FOLLOW THE RULES AND HAVE GOOD THINGS! THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE DIDN'T FOLLOW RULES AND EVERYTHING WENT TO SHIT!Sums up this thread.
>>750091654>>750091683i laughed
>>750092294>the rules are made by good people and can never be twisted or corrupted by money or politics>if we all bend over for Mr. Shekelsteinberg, then clearly we'll all side with copyright law that lasts 500 years and executes people who made romhacks for 50 year old games
>>750092357Kek, you are below braindead for believing a fake tweet. Holy shit this place is beyond salvation.
>>750092069>there's romance all over Chinese gachasRandom barely-legal teasing isn't romance.There hasn't been a proper romantic plotline on chink gachaslop since azur lane due to this shit, and pretending the random "I'm totally for you and will defend you to death but will never do anything past a kiss on the cheek" gachaslop girl bollocks is actual romance just goes to show how starved of foid attention the average gachanigger is.
>>750091383You're making a weird assumption that cons were the only place where piracy could occur. Copying a floppy disk was piss easy if you knew a guy who had the software, and blank floppies were cheap early into the 90s.I didn't pay for my copies of Doom, Stunts, Red Baron, Windows 3.1 etc. and I know most of the dozens of kids in my immediate friend group, and their extended networks, never did either. Anyone with a 286 or better could copy software over for anyone who needed it and provided a stack of blank floppies.Yeah, the user base was much smaller than today, but all that really means is backyard piracy like this had much more damaging reach.
>>750092294Look at this dumb goy lmao
>>750083341low morals zainichi
>>750080214I had to wait 20 hours to call you MASSIVE FAGGOT CUM SLURPER
>>750085472It's much more comparable when it comes to anime piracy and fansubs as a whole.It quite literally started with VCR recordings and making copies of the recordings and rather than subs you just got a book with a translated transcript of the episodes on the recording. Even modern anime piracy is no different at it's core to that idea.Videogames have always been a gray area, but that's the exact same argument that people made about VHS recordings.That if you recorded a movie from the TV you wouldn't buy the official VHS for the movie from the store.This "potentially loss of sale" is the only argument that can be made that could "potentially" harm the company, but that only makes piracy as bad for the company as buying second hand from gamestop; something they had no issue with.So i'd say the difference is negligible.
>>750092052>>750092059Come on man. Why are you collecting blank dvds for what you gonna print the fucking picture out too?
>>750092294>wethis is 4chan, you can just say shitskin (well i will get banned when you report this while crying)
>>750092470>>if we all bend over for Mr. Shekelsteinberghow exactly is "stop constantly getting companies aware of piracy sites and tools, fucking retard, they keep taking them down and the community is only getting increasingly more fragmented due to this, let us all go back to the times where everything was under wraps and everything was easy to pirate because there were no monkeys shouting from the rooftops" bending over to companies?explain it to me in detail
>>750089810Yeah, because it should be Dark Resurrection. Why would I want to play Tekken 6?
I'm just surprised how brown the piracy scene has become, it's far browner and foider than actual criminal activity now.Can any of you possibly fathom some random crime group tweeting how they are cooking drugs and shit, and their exact smuggling routes, directly to the authorities nearby?Only to then bitch "the man" is fucking them over and stalking their every move? And then when that doesn't work they start to bitch how they will never fully take down drug smuggling as a concept?Yet this literal woman behaviour is perfectly accepted on piracy scenes now, and telling people to stop fucking shit over for everyone is somehow a bad thing.
>>750092294Things went to shit because of equality and social justice garbage that people should be hired by race rather than skill.
>>750093015>how exactly is "stop constantly getting companies aware of piracy sites and tools, fucking retard, they keep taking them down and the community is only getting increasingly more fragmented due to this, let us all go back to the times where everything was under wrapsBecause you're full of bullshit, and you never liked piracy or emulation or fangames or mods or romhacks? At no point did you ever support any of these things, and now that nintendo is taking them down, you're putting on a performative little facade where you pretend to care, but then chastise pirates because apparently one fag on twitter gloating about a romhack means that every single pirate is now blood guilty and the whole scene has to be destroyed.Don't forget, you consolegroids would literally report mods and romhacks and fangames, even when they kept things under wraps. You HATED the idea of people illegally modifying corporate property without their permission. So save your gerrymandering for someone who might fall for it.
>>750092921>he thinks they showed the unedited movies on tv>he doesn’t know they waited years before releasing the heavily edited versions of the movies It’s a shit analogy
>>750093268>Already running "you're not a TRUE piracyfag and never been" purity purging on people to hijack the point of the community because they aren't unhinged monkeys blindly attacking nintendo.Literal wokefag behavior.
>>750093015Japan pirates know not to scream about how they pirate things, just do it unseen and keep it to yourself and enjoy it.Western cucks have to make a big deal, shout out about how they are pirating, spam the links everywhere and basically dogwhistle the sites for companies to C&D.Japan actually knows how to correctly do piracy, that's why it looks like japan is so anti-pirate. The reality is you're only seeing the anti-pirate side of japan that the west ALSO has.
>>750093345>all pirates are unhinged monkeys, how DARE you ever emulate or pirate a nintendo game, we TRUE pirates never do thatAnd the mask falls off. fyi, where were you when people were gloating about the Ps5 jailbreak exploits? Isn't sony even more sue-happy than Nintendo? So maybe people gloating about that on twitter is a bad idea?Hmmmm, you were awfully quiet there.
>>750093268>Don't forget, you consolegroids would literally report mods and romhacks and fangames, even when they kept things under wraps.youre literally falling for a psyop and being an useful idiotthis was literal troons trying to kill projects to get rid of the old leadership to then hijack itcongratulations on being the goodest goy i guess
>>750093282You're right, my uncle had a VHS recording of star was that was broadcast on TV which was aired before lucas went out and shoved CGI everywhere and made han shoot second.Clearly the TV version is inferior.
>>750092942You do realize most bluray content is extremely easy to rip, even if you don't burn it yourself the chances of you having a BDVD+RW and scoring an unwritable disc is next to zero.
>>750093478>all piratesWhere did I say this exactly? I'm calling you out specifically.> where were you when people were gloating about the Ps5 jailbreak exploits? People should also shut the fuck up about that instead of making their own want to pirate goi6 even harder, by the way.The less people chimp out and spill the beans on the less snoy has to fix the issues and possible security vulnerabilities.
>>750093480>youre literally falling for a psyop and being an useful idiotAnd yet in Zelda threads, so called idorts have completely turned on the PC Zelda scene and are now shitting on Ship of Harkinian and romhacks and randomizers and anything that Nintendo's remake isn't getting. Curious!>>750093589>People should also shut the fuck up about that instead of making their own want to pirate goi6 even harder, by the way.But you only tell people to shut up when it comes to Nintendo related piracy. I have never seen you in any PS5 jailbreak thread.
>>750093478>it was actually an NDStard all alongeverysingletimehope you realize all youre doing is helping kill piracy sites which drives people to just buyfag because emulating and finding the roms would be too obnoxiouscongratulations on helping drive up sales for the nintendo you hate, dumb nigger
>>750093528But it's fucking stupid. Lol jk it's cool but I'm just gonna buy it. I have a PC and PS5 and PS+ too.
>>750093498You raise a good point but that’s a pretty exceptional case. For the most part if someone was a fan they’d buy the VHS. I still don’t think it’s a good analogy and tape to tape copying wasn’t trivial, they had much better tricks for that than they did for software
>>750079430This Japanese is extremely unnatural. This is definitely a foreigner failing to larp as a Japanese person being mad at foreigners.
Level 5 tweeting about not pirating their games really set this whole thing off and its amazing. Pretty sure thats the first japanese company that used social media asking people directly to stop pirating their stuff.
>>750093729So... I'm helping bring piracy underground again by making it harder for normalfags to do it. Sounds like the problem solves itself. What are you complaining about?
>>750093682>I have never seen you in any PS5 jailbreak thread.Wow it's almost like I don't care about a glorified android box to watch TV in or something, why the fuck would I be on those threads?Maybe reddit is more up your alley if you're this desperate to bring up posting from other places for completely separate arguments like a schizo.
>>750093854So it's okay to openly gloat about piracy, as long as it's not nintendo related. I see. Seems completely contradictory to what you just said ten minutes ago. But okay. Shouldn't have expected consistency from a consolegroid.
>>750093948At this point you fully devolved into arguing with the voices inside your head.Go sort that out instead of literally shitting up the board like a pajeet.
>>750093837The lack of source and it's format made it clear it's an AI fake months ago.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/lgJHKHmYyM6jErCBrOgXsQ/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/742319269/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/742317847/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/742389539/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/742524457/
>>750092647>that cons were the only place where piracy could occur. Copying a floppy disk was piss easy if you knew a guy who had the software, and blank floppies were cheap early into the 90s.Cons were the only place where mass piracy was occurring, i.e. the actually problem. Handing 1-4 of your closest friends a copy of a game every now and then, and then having them call you to circumvent the piracy checks every now and then is not on scale with Cons selling/handing out pirated copies to potentially 100s of people, and nowhere near AT ALL compariable to how bad it got when Napster hit the scene.Even with your backyard comparison, it still just pales with the numbers. All you're doing is describing how easy it was for those niche circles (and it actually isn't as easy as you're painting it out to be. You still needed the foundational computer knowledge to handle all of the tasks you needed to perform, including handling the touchy hardware and software of yesteryear. Compare that to today where piracy is often times as easy as just clicking "download" on a page). It doesn't describe how actually widespread it was, which was almost nil in comparison.
>>750094013I'm sorry you feel that way.
>>750077475go back to twitter
>>750094052thought people would notice from how the font is not even the actual twitter font
>>750094254/v/ is a nest of retarded monkeys and falseflaggers, that's why low quality threads like these exist.
>>750094652Go back to xitter
>>750077475Eh, its just naivety from nips. They live in an extremely high trust, homogeneous, respectful society and that trust and respectfulness even extends to Japanese companies to an extent. That's why when a company like Cygames says not to lewd the horses, nips are more willing to entertain that. They can't really understand that other societies lack this trust and respectfulness.
>>750094869>>750093387
>>750094869>That's why when a company like Cygames says not to lewd the horses, nips are more willing to entertain that.no, it was because the yakuza literally holding thee IP rights to those horses are schizo like chinks and can pull out anytime over muh reputational damage, which would mean the game literally being gutted with character deletions if people don't stop spamming porn when told to keep it under wraps like the chimps they are
>>750081962If you push for civil disobedience hard enough for long enough, then they'll just give up on enforcing it. That's what happened with weed and alcohol.
>>750077475
>>750089781>in the west, laws are there to prevent harm to othersin the west laws are to preserve and expand he power of the ruling class (jews and liberals)
>asia loves AI despite it stealing from le starving artists and slopyfying their already shit art>westoids make mods that improve/add features to games that sorely need it and even port them to PC >but muh stealing gaijin-sanmaybe if faggot companies like konami didn't lose the source code for some of their games they may have had a point but im not into NTR takeshi, i've pirated games then bought them later but thats only cuz i believed the studio making it deserved it, despite that im also aware that these companies are not my friends and will put out a shit product despite them probably being capable of doing better.
>>750090537My thought were exactly the same. I guess nips didn't learned from it at all.
>>750083341Oi, keep your voice down, kisama
>>750079621>>750085359>>750082890>>750091374>>750093837he's right though.
>>750080520>effect
>>750095340>maybe if faggot companies like konami didn't lose the source code for some of their gameThe retards losing their source code are westaboo cucks like square enix tho.Konami specifically is so autistic over keeping everything they are second only to Nintendo, and this applies to the companies they bought like Hudson, as the bomberman collection has localizations for 2 games that were previously jp only and lost media otherwise.If you want to act like and support chimp behaviour go ahead, just stop trying to cope and somehow trying to justify it as some sort of moral right.
>>750095594SEXOOOO
>>750095456>>750083341>>750093219
>russianThirdies really think they have a leg to stand onEvery time it's a thirdie as well>at least im not japan, le suicide rates>has brazil flag in username
>>750095493No, posting fake shit makes you an irremediable fag.
>>750095693>>has brazil flag in usernameworse, i have seen gooks do thatt
>>750094098You neglect to consider the obvious implication of the backyard piracy. It wasn't just 1-4 guys, it extended to their friends and friends of friends and further on in long linked networks that could easily cover hundreds and even thousands of people over time. Even outside that, contacts were made and trades were arranged on Usenet to spread pirated software and photocopied manuals (early copy protection, some games would ask you to input word X from line Y on page Z etc.).No doubt cons were a hotbed for piracy, but they only served as a node in the greater pirate network, and for all the pirated software I and the people I knew possessed, we never visited a con once. I'm not sure where some of those copies originated from in the first place.And no, you didn't need the kind of foundational knowledge that computer users at the time didn't already possess. It only takes a taped corner of a floppy and a single line copy command in DOS. The ease isn't even at issue, more so who engaged in piracy that could've been a paying customer. Napster was a non-issue specifically because its ease of use allowed it to capture non-customers.
I love when retards cry about lost source code because, while it's sad it happened, stuff like storage was still a premium those times and there was the necessity to delete stuff to make newer shit. Crying loudly on the internet only makes you an annoying ignorant fag.
>>750095897>and even thousands of people over timenow compare it to the millions once napster and similar software hit the mainstreamstop being a disingenuous nigger
Rules are made to be broken! Everything is made for me! Me! Me! Give me the welfare benefits and the health card and let me enjoy every game for free!
>>750079430>外人の市場はとても間違いMTL slop
>>750095936>, while it's sad it happened, stuff like storage was still a premium those times and there was the necessity to delete stuff to make newer shitand again, people that constantly lose source code are glorified westoids like sega and squarethe only other common times other jp publishers lose source code is through literal fires or earthquakes destroying it
>>750077475>The piracy debatethere's no debatecode is law
>>750078552Even worse, they say that playing old pirated games harm other companies that are releasing games now, because you choose to play old games instead of buying new ones.
>>750095985Pre-internet audiences were much smaller. Refer back to the post stating how a legendary game would sell maybe 100,000 copies. A fraction of that would still often count as a success, and against that, thousands of pirated copies would be a major chunk, especially considering these could've been paying customers had software been easier to come by in stores at the time.
>>750095897>You neglect to consider the obvious implication of the backyard piracy.No I have. It's not as big as what you make it out to be. You're trying to sell the Business Model™ implication of social networking like I'm a board member, but the reality is that the friend network of computer nerds with enough technical skill to afford these computers at the time and the knowledge how to make copies and circumvent the protection probably only extended to maybe 1-2 people on average, and the circles would be tight and incestuous. It would rarely break past the second layer.>UsenetJust a pre-meet for the cons. Circles are tight and incestuous.>you didn't need the kind of foundational knowledge that computer users at the time didn't already possess.But that foundational knowledge that computer users "already possessed", i.e. the general technical skills OF the computer itself, is what I'm talking about here. You put 99.97% of even above average intelligence general consumer population in front of a 1980s DOS prompt, and they'd immediately walk away and call you a gay faggot fairy for doing nerd shit. Then 0.029% of that population will learn JUST enough commands to run a game they bought.That final 0.001% is the nerd population that will know enough commands to run the copy command out of DOS. THAT is what you are talking about.
>>750077475>russians talking about cuckingRusshits can't even access most western websites without a VPN.
>>750078956In Russia you have to be into NTR to join the army, if you have even a little self-respect you won't sign a contract or get mobilized to fight for a state where men are 3rd class citizens. Until I hundreds of videos of women being blown up by drones in Ukraine, why would I think of joining the army.
>>750077475Piracy is the wrong thing to do.
>>750078665I give this man my vote.Ban em all.
>>750095612>justify it as some sort of moral righti don't view it as some moral right i just don't like getting fucked over, at the end of the day it is stealing but if some retarded company can't muster up enough manpower to make a good port of a video game then idk why i should give a fuck if they don't, especially when some rando autistic fan will port and fix the game FOR FREE, welcome to capitalism if your product is shit or unavailable i ain't/can't buy.>Konami specifically is so autistic over keeping everything they are second only to Nintendooh thats great let me look for a PC version of SH1-3.......oh its not available anymore because they lost the source code welp ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯. the only way to play the original games is through a shitty port that FANS had to fix otherwise we all have to wait for them to remake them, i don't want to play a remake i want to play the game i bought ages ago and im willing to pay again but they are retarded.>bomberman collection has localizations for 2 games that were previously jp only and lost media otherwisethats great and bomberman fans would no doubt buy the game but it makes you wonder how long it took for those games to get a re release people could reasonable play.tldr don't be a field nigger.
>>750096416That means they are pirating access to the internet.
>>750088926>wtf why do my favorite piracy sites keep going down?????
>>750083341>Fell for the honeypotPost hands to show your iq because you are definitely a zoom zoom
>>750084754>Just get insulted like a good boynah>>750089969>>750090258Piracy sites die because corpos try to kill them every single day. There are many lists of top sites. It's not a secret club. Corpos would act 99% the same if people were quiet. Trying to maintain a balance of sorts is idiotic because corpos will always push as far as possible. Nintendo has been gunning after emulators and romhacks way before the switch was even released. They would've have acted the same.
What's the point of debating over something you can never stop people from doing? It's like the people who argue non stop over the ethics of firearms while criminals keep shooting each other regardless.
>>750079430Changing my tag to Bidubyushi on every account.
>>750095612>Konami specifically is so autistic over keeping everything lol no they're not you obese spic golem, they infamously lost the source to silent hill 2 and the shitty remaster was literally based on a beta version
>>750097164If they won't stop doing it no matter what, why do those people we try to debate about it even enter into the debate in the first place? Almost seems like they will actually listen to what people are saying.
>>750077475Eat that you paypiggies! We will never pay and follow your fascist nazi rules!
>>750077475idgi
>>750096328>probably only extended to maybe 1-2 people on averageI feel like we're just trading local anecdotes at this point. These circles definitely weren't as incestuous as you imply. The peak of them would've been the con-centric demoscene of old, sure, but everyone knew someone who knew someone who knew someone etc.>general consumer population>Then 0.029% of that population>That final 0.001% is the nerd populationThing is, the people who didn't care to learn weren't buying these games. Games, especially on the PC, were nerd shit through and through. Everyone else either had consoles or did something else with their time. That's the big issue at hand here, the overlap between the potential customer (which doesn't include the general consumer population of the time) and the active pirate.
>>750097142>There are many lists of top sites. It's not a secret club. which is the point, without browns bragging about piracy it was indeed a secret clubglad youre starting to notice the problem
>>750097204>One example.>Which ignores the gorillion collections they have put out and need the source code from the changes and fixes they have done on said rereleases.Lol.
Keep paying for our facilities, living cost, and entertainment. We will keep taking everything from you without working at all!
>>750097216Well you could assume that but you'd probably be wrong. In the real world sometimes people just join a conversation to call you names and then go back to whatever they were doing. Just because they think it's funny. Everything doesn't have some clever twist to it and the people who do things you don't like don't actually have to agree or disagree with you in any meaningful way or even take your position seriously to begin with.
>>750082552I think bringing up Gabe is to bring up the fact that piracy really can't be stopped, so the best you can do is mitigate it by giving people what they want in a way that's easier than pirating. And it works, Steam reduced PC pirating a ton, Napster died when iTunes came out, no one bothers to scanlate Jump manga anymore outside of One Piece, etc etc.
>>750086092everyone pirates, just say youre a mentally ill turd worlder amerimutt that worships a company lol
>>750097405>but everyone knew someone who knew someone who knew someone etc.Yeah, *A* guy. And two of those guy's "Guy's" were probably each other from different ends of the circle. And keep in mind, they're handing out 1-4 copies of a game out, which will maybe make it to 2-8 more people in general, then just come to a cold stop there on the instances it is.>the people who didn't care to learn weren't buying these games.The point was to demonstrate that people are already inherently reluctant to learn new things. That scope dramatically increases when it comes to learning more things than what they specifically want to do on their own.
>>750097724>n the real world sometimes people just join a conversation to call you names and then go back to whatever they were doingYeah? Okay? That goes both ways. Sometimes people join in because they want to have a discussion and actually change their minds. What even is your point with this diarrhea? "What if's" exist?
If japan didn't pretend PC was the reason why nobody bought their games this wouldn't have happened. But now AI recomps and decvomps are thing. Nobody can stop it. Before the only limitation was how much time and effort you had to do it by hand. And only the most popular games or games that had an autistic fan did them.Tekken 6 was just another reminder that people are sick and tired of begging for a port that will never come and will take matters into their own hand even if it means slopping it up.
>>750097981>no one bothers to scanlate Jump manga anymore outside of One Piece,this is not because a good alternative appearedthis is because otaku moved on to reading the raws while normalfags keep devolving like chimps and stick to the EN dubs of anime adaptations
>>750085879>and Nintendo never actually bother to do anything about them for decadesthis is the most retarded thing ive ever readim sorry youre asshurt someone pirated some tendie dogshit you paid 80 bucks for, but there are countless examples of shitendo doing shit like suing blockbusrter over used game rentals in the 80s
>>750098206>Entitled PCbrown keeps proving japan right.Lol.
Piracy will only stop is if they stop releasing things on PC and follow Nintendo example. If you put something out on PC, its going to get spread around no matter how anti-pirate you make it.
>>750098291Cope. Enjoy your shitty lockerd console DRM.
>>750098204The point was to respond to the exact thing you said in the post you made which I was replying to. You brain dead fucking troglodyte lol.
>>750098327enjoy being kneeled by chauvin
>>750098426Brown.
>>750098383Nice attempt at a "gotcha", except it falls flat on your flat-nosed face when you point out all you did was undermine the entire question of "hurr I don't understand why people engage with discussion when nothing happens hurrrr" you poop licking cunt scratcher.
>>750098395Their argument isn't even that piracy is taking something without paying, it's that it's the opposite of doing what the company arbitrarily wants you to do, SOLELY because they want you to do itIt's literal bug behavior
>>750098478Green
>>750098325Not to mention how spiteful people can be. You might think you're spiteful against people pirating shit, but a if you put a game out thats all about how unpirateable it is, someones gonna do it anyways because "Fuck you"
>>750097416No it wasn't. It was always a google search away
Reminder. This what the average nip thinks.>If they play old game then that means new game won't be played because even THEY know old game might be better than new game. So it's better to pretend old game doesn't exist.
>>750077475tbf it's not much better with artists either, both western and eastern who actively try to remove their works from the internet, some disappear entirely but not before taking everything they have ever done with them. And if or when they find out that their works have been archived, they want those taken down too.This especially happened with pony artists in MLP fandom and still happens, whole reason why pony preservation project was started because it got so tiresome to see works we enjoy and love get removed or hidden or because of shit like what Derpibooru did back in 2020 by banning Aryanne. Half of the artists left the site after that but not before making jannies nuke all their works from the site. Hell, same reason why kemono party was also created, to archive works.Humanity should be free to derive, remix, and become inspired by a published work and they should be entitled to viewing and consuming it. Art after all should be for the benefit of humanity, no matter how niche.That's why it's so weird to me how these same people who create content say how anything human made has soul, AI is the devil and can't create anything with a soul in it and don't get me wrong, i do agree with it somewhat but then these people go and delete their works and get angry if they see someone uploading them somewhere and enjoying them. Like, you wan't us to stop using AI but you also don't allow us to enjoy all the work and art you did?This recently happened with a popular MLP YouTuber too called EileMonty who suddenly just removed all her pony videos and became a vtuber and she recently tweeted out that she didn't approve it at all that people were uploading her old pony videos. Its fucking insane.You want me to take you and your art seriously and respect art but how can i do that when you can't even respect your own art and even after all that shit, you still blame other people for moving more and more towards AI?
>>750081018Japan is clean because it is high moralityHigh morality, but not really that high IQAverage normie jap is still not much smarter than a normie white, and we've all seen how stupid those people areJapanese culture creates people who follow rules perfectly because they are compelled by their morality, but the problem with rules is that they're made by people, And people are fallible. But they will still follow the rules no matter what the actual purpose of the rule is and what effects their following it has. Breaking the rules is a personal affront to them because they have more morality than sense.High IQs are not like this. They know when and where to break rules without any ill effects. They still follow them because most rules still have a positive purpose, but they won't agonize over breaking the gay ass rules made by retards. Because the purpose of a rule is not to be followed blindly. The purpose is to prevent bad outcomes. And there is no real bad outcome to piracy, so the rule is gay and retarded.
>>750089781Except the law will never change, so they're effectively saying it must be this way forever
>>750077475these retards are going to get piracy cracked down on more seriously
>>750098727If they want me to stop playing old games and play new games, they need to start making new games that aren't shit.
>>750098727That's literally the industry's reasons for forcing you to rebuy your library every console generation>if we have to compete with previous titles we won't be stand a chance bawwwwwwww
>>750098395>that's what morality isthousands of philosophers over the history who were trying to figure out what's right and what's wrong be like:>damn it was so easy, morality is obeying made up rules of someone who's perceived as authority
>>750078552>sell abandonware>suddenly all the weebs who would pirate it are buying it on steam>there are entire swaths of weaboos who are now buying niche titles they pirated years ago even if they fucked up the port and/or localization due to applying zero effort for the gaijinsThe main barrier most of the time is Japanese licensing and IP law. If you think US/EU IP law is fucking insane, try theirs. Licensing hell is very real. That, or 90 year olds who refuse to sell overseas
every time I see this debate it reminds me that 80% of Japs are retarded niggercattle, anime and video games are just made by the 20% who aren't
>>750098395>letting corporations dictate what you can and can't doHoly raging cuckolds Batman
>>750099042remind me of that living with Liru dev who saw people pirate his game, but didn't care since people were enjoying it eitherway. I cant remember the details but he was pretty based about it. Hell, I can probably think of more hentai game devs that didn't care about their game being pirated so long as people enjoyed it.Makes me wonder if this is a recent trend with JP users.
>>750098141>Yeah, *A* guyYou were more likely to know 4-12 guys who each knew 4-12 guys who knew 4-12 guys etc. spreading in a pattern that fanned out geographically across city districts. Pre-internet social networks had you build these loose friendships and acquaintances with people all over your suburbs and neighbourhoods. Copies reaching you could come from wild places with the strangest leaderboard listings.And these really were the guys that mattered early on. People outside these circles didn't bother with PC games until the mid-90s, when home PCs grew more common, stores stocked more software and overall usability improved. Your point about inherent reluctance stands, but that reluctance receded as the industry improved its supply and service situation and managed to engage the general consumer population, thus reducing the harm of piracy even at large scale.
>>750081450>Piracy didn't really start becoming a widespread issue until napster in 1999 (which, yes, technically still 90s)you got this right>taught the normies how to bittorrent, and then it got worse with high-speed internet spreading around 2005-2008 era.you got this incredibly wrong, most people went from napster to gnutella-based p2p like limewire, frostwire, kazaa then finally to bittorrent in around 2007-08
>>750099003>90 year olds who refuse to sell overseasI swear Japanese boomers are even more retarded than western boomers. I can't wait for all of them to be dead so this stupid shit stops
man nukes really do work huh
>>750099279Japs are natural slavesThe ones that aren't slaves are people to be treasured, because not being a bug person in bug land produces the most tortured people on earth, and their suffering compels them to make beautiful thingsYou can't reason away this absurd level of collectivism. If the Prime Minister outlawed breathing, most of Japan would suffocate to death. And the people who realized how stupid it was to hold your breath would be made into pariahs.
There it is, the retarded pavlovian responses. This nonsense is getting boring.
>>750100301>If the Prime Minister outlawed breathing, most of Japan would suffocate to death.You don't even need to make up shit.>Emperor Meiji publicly expressed sorrow at Japan's lack of hospitality towards a state guest, which led to an outpouring of public support and messages of condolences for the Tsarevich.>Yuko Hatakeyama (畠山勇子), slit her throat with a razor in front of the Kyoto Prefectural Office as an act of public contrition, and soon died in a hospital. Japanese media at the time labeled her as "retsujo" (lit. valiant woman) and praised her patriotism.[1]
>>750077475>>750078552it's performative, most of them use stupid things like the cyber gadget (retronV clone) to play all the games. They still have mod shops that can install 3ds capture cards and controller mods even though Nintendo made that shit illegal.
>>750077475there is no such thing as "piracy". there is only filesharing
Vtuber cunts were literally caught emulating games It's all performative
>>750096274Literal mongoloid slave mentality.
>>750079013>so they would still behave the samehow can you know someone would behave the same way given vastly different context and chances for understanding? You made it up. source: i made it up lool. you're a glowie trying to spread hate between people but you were so dumb the one people feel disgusted by is you
>>750081450people pirated shit on floppys all the time, wtf are you talking about?
>>750100034>You were more likely to know 4-12 guys who each knew 4-12 guys who knew 4-12 guys etc. spreadinNah, you're still trying to speak in idealistic terms like you're at a board meeting for investors. It was a niche hobby when you yourself admitted most people just bought consoles. It just simply wasn't that big of a circle, my guy.I don't think we're going to get any further on this cause now we're just talking in circles around this one point.
>>750085750Notice how they'll never add the flags or IDs here that would improve the place. Even shitter let's you see an accounts country of origin.
>>750100881They can talk down to men and their fans like insects and Japan will still praise them, Vtubing is their sacred cow.
>>750091309You don't have to be a tendie to realize that nobody focuses on pirating PS or Xbox because the games worth playing on those consoles are already available natively on PC.
>of course I'm from a country that doesn't take piracy seriously, how could you tell?
>>750077475slop shit sucks tho
>>750090387This is why your country is fucked and nobody is making babies. Things don't get better if you don't do anything about it.
Why did the Japanese not boycott Sonic Mania when it was made by a criminal who made illegal games with Sega's IP for years only to be rewarded with getting to make a game despite never paying for his crimes?
>>750101094Well, neither of us have any concrete data to show on this, like I said earlier, we're just trading local anecdotes. And yeah, it was a niche hobby, but we're talking about events inside said niche hobby, not outside it. Consoles and PC games/software were very separate industries at the time. PC gaming was an enthusiast niche industry that eventually grew to encompass a larger, more general population.
>>750078552Because Japan is literally a culture of servitude. Keep your head down and just stay quiet. Respect authority. Sure that means they get cleaner streets and less brown people but it also means having the metal framework of an unironic cuckold instilled into them from birth. America was founded on telling people that rules were meant to be broken. It’s in our spirit to push beyond our limits of what can be done. Japan will larp this in their anime’s but we actually live it.
it's weird to me because their entire doujinshi scene exists entirely off the back of copyright infringement. so is this just a case of japanese people being xenophobic? or have they just never really thought about the subject very deeply
>>750077475Japs like to lie a lot and pretend things are not happening. If you look at any p2p or other distribution network with Japanese content it's full of IPs from Japan.
>>750101589>Well, neither of us have any concrete data to show on this,There is. I'm just not bringing it up because it wildly disproves my case lol.
>>750101923Love you, man.
>>750101832Rules for me but not for thee but in Japanese.Why do you think that uma Musume anti-porn noticed went without so much struggle? Usually when companies ask you to stop making porn of their characters or making Doujins, the usual response is even more porn. But since the rule was dropped in Japan, everyone obeyed, and whoever broke the rule got reported.
>>750101832They will tell you>It's not the same. We're special.
>>750098727Do they also think that getting an old book from a yard sale is immoral because that's less time you have to buy a brand new book?What are the limits of this argument?
>>750101832Doujin scene is basically given an approval by the corporations there to exist in order to promote their main works. However if the corpos dont want people to sell anything, they will delete everything at a drop of a hat.
>>750102007I dunno if it's the twitter AI being SHIT at translating but I find most of the japanese sides of this debate to be very flimsy. like they really did do the >you download pirated copies? I bet you'd steal a car tooand >we are moral because if the companies fuck us we do nothing about itthings. which have been very, very funny to see.
>>750081103Having cleaner streets isn’t better than being a mental slave. There’s a reason that even with Trump trying his hardest to torpedo American hegemony that we are still the top dog. We didn’t get that way by being faggot cucks.
>>750101832>japanese people being xenophobicyes that is the entire reason. we just hate gaijins enjoying our product without giving us money. we don't operate on logic. just pay up or go enjoy your stupid woke garage. t. a Jap
>>750077475Men, i play this game for very long years, but not non stop. More like - time to time, but when the time comes, it's very long non-interrupted time.I started back, when there were only 3 continents, Wrel was very popular - my PC got only like 20 fps when big battle started, that's why I watch Wrel - how game looks with atleast 50fps. He was no developer yet, I think.Anyways... Getting off tracked.I type it out as I think it.Yes?Each time when the time comes - i install, I log on and bam - there is new way to play.First time - bam, impulse granade.Second time - bam, new continentThird time - bam, battle sundyFourth - bam, base building - fatafakhs? I am now also Bob builder in game.This time - I do much flying, which I never did before. Not new thing, but new way for me.Haxors? Yes, but not really that much. About 90% I dont feel like hacker humiliate me. And they are everywhere. Minecraft, Counterstrike, in CIA...Population, yes - back, when there were only 3 - always fights on two continents at same time. In the 3rd or 4th time-to-time when the time had come to play - there were even QUEUEs to warp. But still...Today no Queue and everytime I log on, I can manage to find a fight. If no fight - go Bob builder and after building done, there should deffinetly be a fight popping up already.If still no - go mobile and annoy the TR Bob the builder. When big fight start, outfit organizes platoons - no lust to play solo, do black ops with 40 of you jumping out of Valkaries, straight on top or the point and spam rev granades. - Also new way to play, took me like 6-7 time-to-time times to play the game for another time to discover this way.My biggest complaint in Europe server, in times of not very big fight, voice chats in Squads not very active. But everything else... Men... I think game still very gut. No analoge option in the market.
>>750102261>Izzat is very bawervul saar. We ded not git this way without it, saar.
>>750098220Nah it's because Manga+/Jump+ ate their lunch
>>750083341Dude, shove that client back under a truck and use something modern, like qbitorrent. BEND OVER!!
>>750101239If they did that you would probably be crying about how it's some sort of sitewide /pol/cel influence whilst also bitching about whatever shitskin boogeyman you tend to dislike the most ruining your favourite platform. Get real.
>>750086092>>750086864C'mon, I need one footrest per foot.
>>750083341That's the result of Chinese immigrating into Japan on top of using VPN's set in Japan.
>>750103892Sure, and all those disgusting cow poo-slinging videos of India consist of Pakistanis playing Indians
