Despite its extremely rocky start, SWTOR has successfully outlived Bioware and gets continued development even going into 2027 under Broadsword games, ran by former Dark Age of Camelot developers from Mythic and Bioware's VP for their golden age from DAO to the Mass Effect trilogy. say something nice (or mean) about the game that survived its former studio
Star Wars fucking sucks
EA bought and killed mythic and warhammer online for this gutter trash
>>750090448I liked Age of Reckoning and played it day 1 but it was pretty mismanaged from the start and is an example of a pretty confused WoW clone in an era where blizzard was ascendant and nigh impossible to topple
>>750090328Yes modern disney star wars sucks. And I think the era really ended with the flop of the mando movie. >>750090269so TORTanic isn't eosing? btw have they added anything since legacy of the sith?
>>750090656>so TORTanic isn't eosing?no, it's been under Broadsword since like 2023. > have they added anything since legacy of the sith?new expansion releases next month, including finally going to Ryloth to drown in twi'lek pussy
>>750090656Wrong. Star Wars was always dogshit, dweeb
>>750090575yeah, because mythic was bought out while it was mid-development and EA kicked it out the door literally completely unfinished one month before wrath of the lich king just to make a quick buck off it.
>>750091094you cant call someone a dweeb while posting on 4chan
>>750090269It does puzzle me how these niche MMOs stay alive for so long. I know Star Trek Online has a lot of ship gambling crates, what TORtanic's angle?
>>750092106being the only real way to play in the Old Republic era of starwars is a pretty big advantage, there's cosmetics and shit but nothing worth spending irl money on imo, even if you want to buy them just having an authenticator to login gives you currency to buy it, same with the monthly sub. They do a good job of making it an easy game to drop and come back to later to mess around before quitting again, which is also something oldschool runescape does well. It's not like WoW where if you miss a patch you're basically fucked for the rest of the expansion in progression
>>750090575Funnily enough, AoR outlived Bioware as well, in a way
>>750090269Pureblood sith pussy
I tried this at launch and it was laughably bad, but I'm reinstalling and going to give it another shot tonight.Am I making a mistake?
>>750092959not really, bare minimum you can just do the class stories and then uninstall. Sith Warrior, Imperial Agent, and Jedi Knight are the ones I'd do first, SW is my personal favorite and is a great power fantasy you also get a virgin twi'lek slavegirl to fuck
>>750092959If you can put up with basic bitch MMO combat, there are some good stories and comfy locations But you are cucked out of many conveniences if you don't sub for at least one month
>>750092959Play a stealth class, you will thank me later.
>>750093237yeah the one thing I'd definitely recommend is subbing for a single month and then unsubbing since that gets you "Preferred" status permanently which has lots of QOL and gets most of the perks subscribing does. You can get 100+ hours of gameplay just doing the class stories, I subbed once like a decade ago and definitely got my money's worth. Try it f2p and if you think you'll play it for any stretch of time it's worth getting preferred status
>>750090328Fpbp
>>750092959Please for the love of god just wait until May. That way you can get the XP bonus and play ONLY the class stories and thats it.The main sidequest for each planet is cool the first time, but if you end up playing more than one class you have to do them because of the XP needed to levelAlso if you've never played the game before you will be a literal slave because of the f2p->preferred player->subscriber statusYou are so FUCKED as a f2p.Spend the $15 and just be free of it.But do you booboo
>>750093767Unless something's changed, they do double XP at the end of the year too, not just in May
>>750090269For all the fuck ups and atrocious decisions, it still produced some of the best single player Star Wars content ever made.
>>750093952Ah I must have forgot
>>750091394nta, you're a dweebdweeb
>DEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATH!
>>750090269I still play it from time to time, it's the only Star Wars game where you can play a proper sith. Not Rule of Two bullshit sith, no fallen to the dark side jedincel and so on, but proper sith order.>>750092757Also this.
>>750090269It is fucking criminal that nobody else has tried to do the questing/cutscene stuff that SWTOR does because SWTOR didn't even really do it that well.In some alternate universe there is an MMO with Secret World style quests, SWTOR cutscenes/choices, and active combat. Unironically would make prime WoW look like an indie game.
>Dell gaming mouse
>>750094531Im glad someone else remembers the secret world. I didnt play it much (no internet) but it was cool shooting fish people in new england.
>>750094472true, it's like star wars has some kind of hays code but swtor is somehow exempt from it and lets you play as a genuine bad guy without obligatory return to the light after some guilt tripping
>>750090269good game, unfortunately everything released after the rise of the hutt cartel is a pile of hot smoking garbage
>>750096693There’s a small part of me that hopes that the game will be good again and reverse the damage of BioWare siphoning the profits away to fund their failures instead of reinvesting in the game. It’s just going to take a while.
>>750092959Game is good. Make sure to play with warrior for that twelik and sith pussy
pureblooded sith pussy is a human right
>4chan spends years waiting for another AAA financial bomb wishing every big game would fail
>>750090269This is the game that killed the studio
>>750090269I liked imperial agent and sith warrior storylines. Jedi knight was pretty good too. The rest were meh to awful.I actually liked both the Fallen Empire and Eternal Throne. Imagine if all this effort and resources were spent on making a single player RPG by the writers of agent and warrior instead of MMOslopHaving played all of themImperial Agent > Sith warrior > Jedi knight > Smuggler > Trooper > Sith Inquisitor > Bounty Hunter > Jedi Consular
>>750090269>lived through SW being sold to Disney, Disney making countless shitty movies and tv series and the franchise dying Damn, it deserves some respect.
>>750090269@chort make me a single player Tortanic rebalance all the gameplay with a single character in mind and speed up the character advancement rate and loot accordingly. Make no mistakes and give that fat bald sith lord some huge titties for some reason going so far as to change the animation where if you're playing a sith marauder you confront him to now you're slapping his huge tits around but no explanations for it computer you gotta keep them wondering
>>750101259uh noSWTOR released in 2011, meanwhile a year later they had Inquisition which sold fucking 12 million copies making it A: literally the best selling Bioware game in history, and B: the best selling game of 2012 period which was a drought year with no competition which is why it won GOTY (remember 2012 was Halo 4 which only sold 10 million copies and was highly divisive)Bioware was literally outselling fucking HALO even after SWTOR, if you want games that killed the studio it's 10000% Andromeda into Veilguard poisoning both of their most popular IPs
>>750101339there's pretty good arguments to be made that SWTOR and KOTOR overall as a setting is near singlehandedly responsible for keeping shit like Sith Purebloods and lots of Legends stuff still canon. A Rakatan Infinite Empire crystal is a plot device in Andor, and the nu-canon comics with Doctor Aphra we got Purebloods with the red skin and tentacle faces showing up when for the past 15+ years they've basically only been depicted in SWTOR
>>750090269I aant to fuck the shit out of vette, mako, ashara and lana (especially ashara because she can be kind of annoying)
>>750102128ashara is for shocking with force lightning, bed-breaking leglock sex, followed by cuddling and then more shocking afterwards in exactly that order
>>750101791Inquisition released in 2014. ME3 was 2012. I think andromeda actually made money despite it being panned. Andromeda and the three restarts of dread wolf development killed the company. Veilguard had to be a big hit but it landed like a wet noodle and literally confirmed all the fears about the company pandering instead of trying to make a good game and tell a real story. I’m still sad BioWare is gone but it was inevitable at this point. You can’t even blame EA or Saudi robber barons the company did this to themselves
>>750101964>stuff still canon.>A Rakatan Infinite Empire crystal is a plot device in Andorthe Disney version of expanded universe stuff is completely different and devoid of the original lore like rings of power. in discanon, the galaxy is much condensed and smaller timeline wise.
>>750102228>You suck, Anthem!>[sinks]>You suck, Andromeda!>[sinks]>You suck, Veilguard!>[sinks]
>>750102561>You can’t even blame EA or Saudi robber barons the company did this to themselvesYeah I roll my eyes when people blame EA for everything, 90% of the time that's true especially for shit like the Sims, but Andromeda and Veilguard are 1000% purely fucking writing problems as why the games are unsalvageable. RPG players will accept mediocre and even clunky gameplay in service to a good story, that's what the """"bioware magic"""" their management crooned about really was, and how they could always count on the "basement-dwellers" to show up and buy every title, but if the writing is bad like it was in Veilguard and Andromeda the combat and gameplay being among the best in the series means nothing, because people aren't playing Dragon Age for the same reasons they play Ninja Gaiden. People remember NWN and KOTOR infinitely more fondly than Andromeda despite them using d20 diceroll combat in a fairly janky realtime with pause shell because of the writing.EA executives were not kicking down the doors to the Bioware offices and scribbling down Taash and Peebee's dialogue personally, the reason those games sucked ass was entirely in-house.
I've played a decent amount of it because I used to be 1) an MMO addict and 2) a sucker for anything to do with the old republic. Still, this is one of the most bizarre and ill-conceived games on the market. The MMO aspect of it is totally wasted. Other players in the open world are meaningless. The conversations for the class storylines are ok, some of them are impactful, but most aren't, and side quests are outright boring with stupid binary choices ending each one. I was there when it came out and I still find it hard to believe that this game released in this state. WoW with voice acting and less multiplayer. Who the hell greenlit this? But it has apparently taken on an afterlife as a star wars action figure dress up game. That appears to be what the community is into and what 90% of the cash shop contains. And that's enough to turn a profit I guess. I get a little sad when I imagine the grand ambitions they clearly had for this game and the sad, limping reality of its current state. The transition from the launch content, the class storylines, to the expansions is absolutely brutal. 8 class storylines was immense hubris. There was just no way it was ever going to be sustainable.
Why did the devs hate us? I just wanted to romance Vaylin. Foids got their redeemed bald man I want my hot evil empress to rule with.
>>750103436oyakodon with senya and acina would have saved kotfe
>>750103436Forgot to mention but her voice makes me so hard
>>750103570No one wants that old hag senya
>>750103581she's basically azula but with a lightsaber which probably explains my enormous urge to breed her despite my better judgement
>>750102865I always find it funny when people like this will immediately blame management for when a game sucks, but somehow management aren't praised when a game turns out to be good.
>>750103831ironically EA deserve credit for the one thing Anthem got praise for, the flying. Bioware were legit going to cut it from the game due to gripes about level design and it took an EA executive who'd played the earlier demo to tell them absolutely not and that the Iron Man suit flying was literally the entire selling point of the game
>>750103802I don’t even want a redeem path for her, but there is zero reason evil characters shouldn’t be allowed to romance her. She would definitely take the offer to rule beside you as your queen if you offered her Senya’s head. I loved her so much, I just can’t believe the devs fucked her over so much.
>>750104073You just know some foid was on the writing team saying okay we will redeem bald man and make him a romance option but we must make sure the Vaylin can’t be romanced to own the chuds.
>>750102865>EA executives were not kicking down the doors to the Bioware offices and scribbling down Taash and Peebee's dialogue personally, the reason those games sucked ass was entirely in-house.They were stealing money and making it impossible for a niche game to make a profit.And yes, Bioware games are niche. Always have been. Inquistion was the one exception, and retarded capitalistic logic means they can't understand that.
>>750104073the zakuul arc was originally gonna have a third full expansion but was cut short due to backlash from people whining about MUH REPUBLIC VS EMPIRE!!!! so any possibility of that got shitcanned with the rushed ending. Which I always found dumb, since it's made abundantly clear in the class arcs that the Republic is quite corrupt and full of internal scheming and backstabbing, and that the Sith Empire is quite pragmatic in addition to ruthless, so the idea of diplomacy existing enough for a surface-level ceasefire while a cold war rages in the background and there's border skirmishes and espionage and fighting over potential superweapons made perfect sense, with "third party" conflicts like Revan or Zakuul serving as distractions.In a PVP game where one side can never win permanently anyways I don't see the appeal of begging for more faction conflict, it's literally the same retards whining that got Battle For Azeroth made in WoW which is the worst expansion the game ever had besides Shadowlands
>>750104394>plans to make a Zakuul strongholda copy of valkys old palace. Even seeing hooks on the palace in a developer diary >scrap itThis is fucking bullshit. I humored all these foppish zakuulans, I deserve to rule them now. Also the palace should have connected to the space station eternal throne room.
>>750090269I wonder if Doug Bradley would be open to doing more Star Wars projects
>>750091094Shut up troonie.
>>750100929jedincels robbed us from it
>>750102128For me it was Darth Lachris...
>>750104775I forget that he voiced VALKOOOORIAN
still waiting for it to eos so i can play the offline version for all this time
>>750107167Do not wish for that because there won't be any "offline" version.
>>750107437My dear friend Ross from the game dungeon assured me that it will be playable in perpetuity 'or else'
>>750093237>basic bitch MMO combat,it doesn't even have auto attack man
I remember the gameplay for this being extremely fucking boring. Can I skip all that and just do the story stuff at this point?
>>750107635But he didn't, no laws have come to pass, for now, as far as I know. And also, I remember him motioning that mmos are unlikely to be affected or a grey area, because they fit a definition of a "service" than a "product" closer than regular SP games. >>750107736These mmos from that era all have meme combat. Mmos that have something better usually are of different genres than generic rpg ones.But real problem it's that it's unbalanced. You get overleveled FAST if you do many quests, so most of mainline story and planet stories are just too easy, only hard part, in a grindy way, is doing heroics solo.Supposedly they are bringing some sort of difficulty selection mode come next major update.
>>750107832if you overlevel for story enemies match your level (at least in kotfe/kotet) and they downscale you by default when visting old zones, idk if thats a recent change or not but I recently did Vette's new date night cutscene and it's on Makeb and I got scaled down to lvl 55 with enemies being 52
>>750090269It's hard to believe everything this game outlasted. Not only did it outlast BioWare, it is also the only Star Wars Expanded Universe work sti@ll being made.
>>750108629the power of twi'lek titties
>>750107167Me too.
Best girl.We filled out paper work together.
>>750090269What's the tier list of the class storylines? How far do these storylines go considering it's been running for 15 years?
>>750090269is KOTOR remake still good since it's being made by saber?
>>750108062It still is to easy because even downscaled you have higher level combat skills + companions are tanky as fuck.Not that I really complain, because making things harder for story would just mean more grind.
>>750108629Would be funny if it outlasts /v/ and by extension 4chan.
>>750110221It's subjective anyway. A lot of people like imperial agent and sith warrior, and I like sith warrior but I don't care about non-sith classes and I enjoyed sith inquisitor a lot, especially first half.
>>750110221>What's the tier list of the class storylines?it's largely personal opinion but general consensus is Warrior, Agent, and Knight are the top 3. In terms of uniqueness for Star Wars playing Light Side Sith Warrior is definitely the most fun, you get to be essentially a lawful neutral killing machine who carves out lots of the rot and corruption and pointless cruelty the Empire's partaking in while also confusing your Jedi enemies (many of whom are tempted by the Dark Side themselves since the republic is corrupt and full of bureaucratic infighting)Inquisitor can be boring if played straight since it's largely a series of ghost hunting adventures but the real standout joy is the fact you're offered a [SHOCK HIM] option basically constantly during the story and leaning in to being a Sith with a few screws loose who resolves any and all personal troubles with force lightning is very satisfying, as inquisitor you're a former slave with a chip on your shoulder and you can go zapping everyone and anyone who gets in your way or annoys you
>>750090269Playing a Light Side Sith Warrior was a lot of fun confusing jedi
>>750090269i tried this a few months back and it wasn't too bad, got an inquisitor to 50 or 60 whatever the original cap was then went jedi knight and dropped it at hoth, fuckin gay ass class and story i just started skipping most of it, inquisitor was sick though not even FF14 could get me to watch every dialogue box for the storybut then again this doesn't need 500 textboxes to explain something that only needs like 5 max
>>750090328Based
>>750111602I think Warrior is overrated, I liked Inquisitor better. Especially DS Inquisitor
>>750090328It does, but SWTOR comes closer to fixing things.It has no Rule of Two, so sith order makes more sense, and force users feel closer to actual space wizards that matter.Still, could be better in my book, but it's only SW thing outside of porn I care for.
>>750111647My only problem with SI was that a few later ghost hunting quests felt like a drag and that voice acting doesn't take into account grey sided characters, so it can feel schizo at times, where light sided sounds like honorable hero, while dark side is your classical bad guy and you might pick either or dialogue for different situations even in the same quest. But this problem affects some other classes too. It's kind of how Mass Effect also lacked something in between paragon and renegade, in terms of writing but also voice acting (or voice directing?) sometimes. Otherwise it's my favorite one. I think male sith inquisitor works best for light sided run, because he sounds like a hero, while female voice works nice for dark sided SI, because she sounds like crazy overconfident slut sometimes, in a fun way.
>>750111604Yeah I preferred Inquisitor to Knight as well, right now I have 6/8 class stories done and am dragging my feet finishing Knight and Trooper because they're kind of generic, Knight especially is clearly their rough draft outline for how KOTOR 3 would have gone but imo the more interesting relationship with the Emperor is being Warrior and wanting to kill him for betraying the "real" empire for his side-piece ZakuulI quite liked Smuggler actually even though it's not rated very high by most people, being a space swashbuckler with a pirate princess is fun for a change compared to Jedi vs Sith conflict other stories focus on
I will only play it if I don't have to pay any money. I guess I have to wait until it dies for someone to make a private server?
>>750090269I enjoyed the smuggler story. and for the first month of the game's lifetime, I enjoyed scoundrel fletchette'ing people in the back and then stunlocking them to death by kicking them in the balls. and then they nerfed it and I unsubbed.
>>750111958If you want to play it for free you can basically play all the class stories, I believe, and those are the best part. That said, you would still want to sub for one month, to get preferred status, after sub runs out, that will both grant expansions (to keep) and other bonuses.
>>750111958it's free to play but subbing at least one for preferred status is probably worth it since there's a decent amount of QOL you get. I only subbed once like eight years ago and still have preferred since it's permanent. I only subbed after finishing my first class story though which was many hours in so you definitely don't need to pay.
I fucking love SWTOR. The difference between shitting on something from a distance and actually playing it is staggering
>>750112245I had a great time with it but unfortunately it ran out of steam and the mmo aspect still sucked
bastard
>>750111602Good news you can romance light side jaessa now after a patch they added
>>750111604Light side is super fucking boring. Try sith warrior or bounty hunter they are kino.
>>750113313damn, I remember them, as well as pedostache bounty hunter and fat smiling twigger
>>750113479with how many padawans you can seduce and fuck as a Sith it seems like the Jedi Academy is really just a mail order bride service for the Empire
>>750090269Story turns to omega shit in the Another Evil Empire expansionI've dropped out after game didn't let me kill genocidal evil brother fleeing in a spaceship, because his mom asked me not to and everyone acted like I'm super evil for trying.
>>750113672It’s hot as fuck to groom young Jedi woman into being your lovers and sith
>>750113835They ran out of money to continue the class stories separate. Because of you /v/! YES, YOU
>>750113835you do get to kill arcann and senya later if you want
>>750113885I've boughed the cat pussy premium race tho...
>>750113605I miss the shitposting and hijinks in swgg and Star Forge
>>750114154/swgg/ still lives on, just so you know, it's on /vm/ these days, I visit once in a while.
>>750114183I still check in every now and again
>>750092106creating custom star wars characters and dressing them up
>>750115017also being the only major mmo with bioware style companions and romances. IDK why nobody else has copied that shit, especially with BG3 being so successful you'd think more games would give you a sexy virgin slavegirl like vette or a hot but naive padawan/apprentice to seduce but NOPE
>>750090269>outlived the EU>outlived Bioware
Why can shitty MMOs stay up forever but modern multi-player servers get shut down if they don't instantly do Fortnite numbers?
>>750115708>*looks at the graveyard of mmos*SWTOR does this thing called "makes more money than it costs to run".
>>750115708>old ass cheap Mercedes that still does its job and requires low cost maintenancevs>modern electric car made to make money right now with ballooned upkeep cost, that gets discarded for another new car after a year
>>750090269>say something nice (or mean)If they had just copied WoW they've would made a trillion dollars. Copy the gameplay and figure out a timeless artstyle and just give people a glorified chatroom with some collecting and maybe raiding and you're golden. The Star Wars audience was (is?) ten times bigger than the Warcraft audience. Maybe a hundred times bigger. But it played like shit, looked like shit, the cutscenes were jank in a bad way, it had nothing really interesting to do and the GOOD parts of it could have been contained in a singleplayer game like, oh I dunno, KOTOR 3?
>>750090269It absolutely floundered when it first released but it's managed to stay alive for over 10 years even though a failed first year usually means EOS. That's pretty impressive even though it does still kinda look like a shitty version of WoWProps on outliving Bioware as well I guess
>>750093237I love the 1-50 planets so much. I could replay through them forever
>>750116315I'm strangely excited for the Ventures thing next expansion. Puts the planets back into "I actually have to play the game paying attention and just can't solo all the multi-person mobs or quests" territory.
>>750116095>copy WoWApparently it isn't as shrimpe as that, many tried yet very few survived. Those that did often had some kind of unique thing going to themMMO players are also notoriously tribal, most would rather stick to their first love, regardless how shitty it gets.
>>750116442I'm a player of both. The biggest fucking advantage that WoW has is it's just so much more responsive. SWTOR is way better than it used to be in responsiveness but it still lags behind WoW.FFXIV is even worse in this regard but like you said, tribalism. And SWTOR has had a pretty schizo history where it can't decide if it wants to embrace the MMO elements or not.
>>750116437tell us more about these 'ventures'
>>750111529I liked LS Inquisotor. Everybody expects you to be a complete psycho and are shocked at seeing anything else.>instructor is a bitter asshole who continuously sabotages you>kill his favourite nepobaby candidate and he ends looking like a complete idiot in front of a darth>tell him thanks, you taught me a lot>"What? F-fuck off..."
Can someone send THAT fight scene?
any chance the game can be transformerd into a single player game after the servers go down ? by that i mean just host a private server only for myself to be able to play the story only
>ARGHH I CANNOT BREAK HIM
>>750115708fuck these mp games anyway, I play swtor despite of it being mmo, I tire of forced online and gaas everywhere
>>750117014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUpjQbTQBgYjust for you pal, my pleasure
>>750116884yeah, that scene was funny
>>750117014Is there some problem here?
>>750117129WHO WOULD ASK SUCH A STUPID QUESTION!? CLEARLY THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE!
>>750117085The cake is a lie, there is only pie. Through pie, I gain calories. Through calories, I gain weight. Through weight, I gain birth. Through girth, my belts are broken. The food shall set me free.-Creed of Darth Baras the Wide
I'm pretty shocked that 15 years later they only lost 1 out of 16 of the main character voice actors.Male agent had to be recast a couple of years ago.
What is even happening story wise nowadays thought that alliance plot was finished or something?
>>750116884Both Sith classes having earnest LS dialogue confuses the fuck out of a lot of characters, it's funny.
>>750090269its the first mmo that tried to have a good story, and I commend them for it
>>750108787based, exactly
>>750116206it also technically outlived wow retail since that flopped and now theyre having to reboot it from classic
>>750107071He voiced Vitiate, Valkorion was voiced by Darin de Paul.
>>750118365ah
>>750114183Getting booted from /vg/ for being too slow was kind of embarrassing though. Not enough new Star Wars games to talk about I guess
>>750115708The expensive part of making an MMO is the initial development, once it's made you just keep the servers up and are just paying for hosting which is dirt cheap; Guild Wars 1 is still online and arenanet have said it's so cheap they can easily keep it up indefinitely. 2000s and early 2010s games have much lower requirements as well which helps keep costs minimal. Designing new shit for fucking RuneScape is a couple polygons in 3DMax or blender. Modern live service titles generally aim for a sparser 1.0 launch than older mmorpgs but in return their development costs basically never go down or stop, that's why it's so common for them to get shuttered and EOS because they're lighting money on fire every month to push out seasonal FOMO content that's largely disposable and doesn't stay in the game as evergreen shit to do. Bungie spent like $600,000,000 on destiny between marketing and development costs, at the time it was literally the most expensive game ever developed
>>750116046>ballooned upkeep costIt’s actually very cheap to maintain electric cars. A lot less moving parts because not an ice engine. Rich people are going to get a new car anyways.
>>750090328Very, very low test post
>>750103436She isn't gone yet but sadly her pretty body is
>>750116046Eh I get what you are saying but I wouldn't use Mercedes. As the old saying goes>nothing more expensive than a cheap old mercedes
>>750090269Kaleesh when?
>>750090269She’s right you know. Maybe they did it intentionally so the saudis don’t sniff out all the haram shit in swtor.
>>750117526It turns out the goofy snek worshipping Zildrog doomsday cultists were actually kind of right all along and they were actually worshipping an ancient hyper advanced ayylmao death machine that's from the same civilization that created the Gravestone (your overpowered Normandy expie ship you get early in the expansions that's the only thing able to deal with the Eternal Fleet), once it wakes up your few moments of sitting on the throne as Eternal Emperor are shortlived before you have to fight it in an extremely costly battle that ends up with most of the fleet wrecked, the gravestone destroyed, and the temporary alliance between Empire and Republic broken. You're then given the choice to return the planets and remaining Alliance forces you still control to your original faction and regain your original title, stay independent as Commander but ally with them, or go turncoat and side with the opposite faction going into Onslaught.
I'm close to having 500 Galactic Starfighter wins but it wasn't worth it
>>750118837Oh yeah I just remembered how Bioware kept taking people off the game at Bioware Austin for like, Anthem.
>>750090269Never played it. Would definitely like to some day.The CGI trailers are fucking fantastic and better choreographed and manage to tell a better story in their short length than anything anyone at Disney could ever come up with. Also those little shorts that Lance Henriksen narrated explaining the lore before the game released were fun to listen to.I know I'm not actually talking about the game itself. I loved both KotOR games so I definitely want to play it some day, whether it's good or bad. Not a fan of the direction they took with Revan and the Exile, but I'd still like to explore this game and treat it as just a very long ass single player game just to experience the world.
>>750119146The funny part is they took people from Austin and then when making them work on Anthem they completely ignored and outright mocked them for suggestions they made on how to make a multiplayer live service game, despite nobody in Edmonton having any multiplayer development experience and this game being their fantasized Destiny and The Division Killer meal ticket
>>750119194I'd at least wait until December because now they are giving us what bioshit never did, difficulty modes. The game is so easy now that the stories just can't be taken seriously and neither can the combat itself because you are just going through the motions knowing you won't die anyway until you reach the next cutscene
>>750119116Need to get a ethernet connection set up. That’s why I suck…
>>750116046it's more like an old Toyota camry or hilux (reliable enough the Taliban are still using them in the desert 20 years later) vs a Lamborghini where the maintenance over a decade costs as much as buying the car did to begin with
>>750119283>story bosses going back to "interrupt this or fucking explode"Can't wait.
>>750118837>Bethesda keeps fumbling its games since Skyrim>ESO quietly generates money and is a rare fresh content for very the famous franchise>Bioware keeps fumbling everything since Dragon Age 2>SWTOR quietly generates money and is a rare fresh content for the very famous franchise
>>750119314Yang... gone too soon
>>750119283>Chat will be full of "Anyone for [Heroic quest]?" or "Can someone help me with this elite?" like it's 2012>Bounty Hunter themed Season will be repeated next yearI'm looking forward to my next relapse
>>750119283I'm taking my marauder through kotfe now and I actually died a decent amount of times but mostly throgh being greedy and pulling too many mobs at once (a lot of phases for story chapters don't actually have a maximum aggro distance so I got gangbanged by like 20 enemies whoops) and then some fights in areas where Companions are disabled I got my teeth kicked in because suddenly my pocket healer was gone and I'm left with Saber Ward and Cloak of Pain as my only defenses. IDK how much of that is difficulty tuning versus me being shit at the game since I just came back after like 8 years versus Fury Mara having basically zero self healing.
>>750092106It had a large story, like it's hard to actually play all the content. Hundreds of hours, easily. And not retarded 'lore' like other games, I mean dialogue and cutscenes and choices, actual story. I consider it Bioware's last good game.Then it's an MMO on top of that so you can do operations (raids) or PVP, and flashpoints (grouped content) I don't do RP stuff but there's RP servers as well.
>>750119612I died a million times to the sniper boss and later saw a video that you can cheese him with a pressure plate but I'm glad I did it without
>>750119438add on FFXIV funding Square Enix through their slump years as well, the reason FF15 was able to get rebooted like three times mid development and still release unfinished is because they had the MMO as a cash cow the entire time
I still remember the Nar Shaddaa back alley gangbangs on the Burger (Beregen) Colony RP server.
>Come in late for current season but not too late, or so I thought>You can do 7 season objectives per week>There is an achievement for doing 130 of them that gives you an extra exclusive armor set>If I do every single weekly from now on I get to exactly 129 out of 130This is the universe telling me to stop playing but the universe can go fuck itself I'm still playing
>>750119768is there no way to get them besides the weeklies? At that point my autism would bother me enough I'd swipe a few bucks for a battle pass level like gachas and shit allow you to do
>>750119768I’m doing the achievement but the helmet I would only wear as a joke.
>>750119896Nope, no way to do more than 7 a week. You can buy season levels for ingame money or real money but that doesn't count towards doing orders for the achievement, I'm fucked
>>750118484A blessing, really, no need for pointless bumping. /mbg/ is now on /vst/ too ad it's better that waythey should make /gacha/ like some altchans do.
>>750119283My former guild used to call them Biowaste. 4.0 saying "fuck you people who liked the MMO stuff we're a weird single player episodic game now" didn't go down well with us.I still miss those guys, raids being 8 people meant you could actually be friends with them all. I still don't know jack shit about half of my mythic raid team in WoW.
>>750118781Kaleesh poster, that you? Missed you from /swgg/.
>>750119950that's what /vmg/ was supposed to be but instead it's mostly dead and they still take up half of /vg/
>>750118484bumping every 40 min because of gorillion gacha threads is wack desuwish my mmo general finally moves to /vm/ too
/vg/ - very gacha
>>750090269>former daoc devsI remember those guys, they fucked up Warhammer Online.
Brothers....what was the third act of Imperial Agent even about, was that whole thing a reference?
>>750120267You become actual Main Character of the Empire
>>750120267I remember Jason Bourne in space
>>750120267Besides the general Illuminati plot not really, I don't think. There's a Rakata on it I guess which is a KOTOR reference but that's basically it. It's more meant to be a tweest that despite being a muggle running around caught between Jedi opponents and your overbearing and meddling Sith superiors and their conspiracies that the "final boss" is actually an all-non-force-user shadow cabal trying to wipe out force users en masse. Agent has lots of Bond tropes so I guess you could say they're SWTOR's SPECTREhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPECTRE
>>750120267I think it was trying to give you RP opportunity to how your kind of patriotic character reacts to the System they admire discarding and betraying them. Sort of like James Bond later Daniel Craig films. Will you go full rogue, working on yourself, disillusioned with the work or keep following principles despite everything?
>>750090269I liked Vette. More games should have a vette, it seems like a really underutilized concept
Bounty Hunter (telling mandos to fuck off) is the best class story.
ok fuck you guys i'll reinstall it
>>750120756if guild wars 2 had a vette I'd have played it
>>750120070Yeah but /vm/ is kind of dead
>>750120807Then again being mando is the one way to have a connection to the painfully long mando story arc
>>750121094Nah, Torian showing up and actually getting content despite being killable in KOTET is reward enough.
>>750120901might be worth waiting till they add those difficulty options so you dont get bored of how easy it is, swear they're meant to be soon
>>750121156Are they adding difficulty select like the expansion chapters have or is it like ESO's where it's gonna be a worldwide toggle?
>>750121094Or being a Smuggler that fucks Akaavi (The one with the customiation that gives her longer hair because everything else is gay)
>>750121252well the options are meant to be as brutal as the expansion ones on "master", but actually global yeah
>>750121405damn you're gonna need to group up just to kill a single elite, I wonder how many people will do the whole game on the hardest difficulty
>>750120756too sassy and childish at times
>>750121493guess most will stick to veteran unless they really want the challenge, also just checking it's in 8.0 which should be out in december (15th anni)
>>750121493From what I've heard, elites not really. You can't chain pull them but you can kill them.Those named champions on each planet though have hands and kind of need multiple people.
>>750121563I mean there's plenty of room for variation in personality. Having a slave companion just seems like it would be effective wish fulfilment for the kind of people who play videogames and it seems weird that more games don't offer that
>>750121563That's what the shock collar is for (which she explicitly keeps even after you romance her and redeem her from slavery just for the purpose of wearing it in bed when you have sex)
>>750121713wait really? fucking basedI went with jaesa so didnt know this
>>750121713I was not that keen to keep her in one, since I am not a fan of slavery, so I let her out after we leave Kaas.
>>750122243you could originally romance her and keep the collar but they later patched it to avoid dialogue conflicts but even if you free her from slavery and romance her she explicitly keeps the collar around just for sex. Truly best girl and peak brat taming arc.
if you think about it, the SW story from Vette's POV is literally a romance novel plot where a poor but beautiful and talented girl is enslaved by a powerful and brooding and extremely violent knight who brings her along as a sidekick before she wins him over and becomes his lover despite her humble birth and with his help all the people that looked down on her get cut to pieces with her boyfriend's magic sword.
>>7500906568.0 is adding more stuff to continue legacy of the Sith's storyline. If you ever subscribed, you get access to all expansions from the time you were subbed so you'll have to resub for a month to get access
Dromund Kaas chat...
>>750122964is based
>>750090328
Played BHunter at launch, since then I just watched playthroughs, it sucks it has a paying wall after certain level, I'll rather pay for the full game than a subscription but the amount of content they make almost make me want to pay the subscription
>>750090269>say something nice (or mean) about the game that survived its former studioTOR had the smoothest EA and launch of any MMO I've played. Queues were relatively minimal, servers didn't crash, no quest breaking bugs or desync.Early TOR also had some of the most fun PVP I've ever played. Huttball was peak.
>>750123313if you pay the sub once you get Preferred status indefinitely which includes access to all expansions released at the time you subbed. If you wanna make extra sure you don't get billed any more than a single month get one of the steam bundles that comes with 30 days of game time plus a mount and some shit for the same price as a month sub since it's a one-time thing.
>love the class differences in both aesthetic and story>love the characters and the roleplay potential>despise the mmo gameplayI will never stop wishing this was Kotor III.
>>750122705you know it's interesting that it can work as wish fulfilment for both halves of the relationship
>>750123492Nowadays like 14 out of 16 players ignore there is a ball and just kill each other
>>750090269>TOR outlived Bioware>TOR will outlive nucanon
>>750123876That's a goddamn shame
>>750122705She wouldn’t have been enslaved if she hadn’t been stealing sith artifacts. She must have felt kind of guilty if she stayed with a LS warrior since her comp missions focus on preserving twilek heritage and history.
>>750090269it was ugly to look at and play
>>750090269I want to fuck Theron’s mom and give him a baby brother.
>>750090269I really enjoyed the Sith Inquisitor storyline. Never finished the others.
>>750123770You could have made a bunch of standalone fleshed out story rpgs from class stories alone, alas. But I will take what I can get.
>>750123492>you could get a toy that made you kick the ball instead of throw it>the steve blum announcer guy loses his shit when you kick the ball
>>750125160You should at least do sith warrior and probably imperial agent.
>>750123689Thanks, anon, I'll give it a look.
>>750126745https://swtorista.com/articles/swtor-free-to-play-vs-preferred-vs-subscriber-guide/
im hopind dx12 elevates graphics more
>>750120807>>750121094The way Bounty Hunter is written entirely around the Mandalorians is annoying. it doesn't even matter if you tell them no, you're forced to be part of their bullshit.
Is the dual wield calss good? ive heard it has less armor and sustain is a big issue in comparison to juggernaut
>>750127314That's really only for the first chapter with the great hunt shit. As long as you tell Mandalore to get fucked you'll never hear a peep from the Mandos outside of Torian dialogue or the BH Rishi quest.
>>750124963Can anyone give me the rundown on her full character arc? Because unless I am missing something she seems like a pretty shit person for abandoning her child. Me and Bastila didn't go through all of that for our granddaughter to dodge child support.>>750125715Exactly my mindset, it could be better but I'll take it and enjoy it for what it is.
>>750127957Well she abandoned the Jedi Order during the Eternal Empire invasion
>>750118630>soi wars fan calling anyone low test
>>750120267>what was the third act of Imperial Agent even aboutftm tranny is in love with you but doesn't know how to express that outside of being your enemyit's like a video game version of this is how you lose the time war
What's the most 'fun' character storyline, the one where you really do feel the extent of the SW setting?
>>750129276sith warrior for force user power fantasyagent for non-force user perspective on sith nonsense
>>750129405sw story nosedives in chapter 2 and it makes 0 sense
>>750090269I don't get why they didn't make more proper KOTOR style rpgsPeople obviously fucking love that shit and they just let the concept rot for decades. It's just fucking stupid man, I hate these fucking IP holders so much
>>750129276light side sith warrior was the one I ended up enjoying the most. You're constantly betraying everyone's expectations of you, storming places as a sith killing machine only to do heroic nice guy shit. They do a poor job of justifying it in universe though, but it still ended up being the most fun since most of the other storylines were relatively generic and boring without a good angle like that.
Sith Inquisiotr is the actual star of the showYou start as an actual slaveWork your way upShame the expansions just nullify everything you do in 1-60
>>750129508>your turbojew master who is in the process of betraying his own emporer betrays you as well>emporer retaliates by making you his personal enforcer and tasks you with bringing down the traitor's entire power baseWhat's confusing about this?
>>750130728you still being a lapdog
>>750130812>be sith>used by your master>get a new master>used by him as well>this is confusing?
>>750131441yes as it wouldve been better >you get betrayed>you "die">you rise up>you get to be the master of em allinstead youre still a lapdog
>>750130093>Take ghosts into my body to get stronger>Ghosts try to take over>Build myself a whole new body>Ghosts can't even attempt to take control anymoreIt was silly this was never brought up at all anywhere else.
>>750131937the emperor LITERALLY does the same shit
>>750131972I wanted to be stronger than the emperor and take his stupid ghost into my body forever so that eternal empire never happens.
>>750090328Eat my ass
>>750131937Thaths why Inq should have been the sith main story
What games have broadsword put out recently?
>>750127201Sweetautista
>>750130093>>750131937>>750132113I heard once that your romance option can never be turned anything other then a grey Jedi at best and it stopped me from me completing the story (really it was Nar Shadaa and Balmorra filtering me because I forget how long and repetitive they are when you do the planet quests as well). I actually really like the story and class though lol. Is the love interest worth it and am I missing out?
>>750129168She was just larping as Hunter. She’s really just a dork like us.
>>750132382Expansions give you new love stories and companions from other classes DW about maingame romance options at all
>>750124392Honestly, you're not wrong. The Star Wars projects where Disney has the least amount of input are the only ones even remotely successful.
>>750129923in universe justification is you are a bt3 pureblood killing machine with glowing red eyes from an important sith bloodline.
server emulator allowing me to selfhost and play it as a singleplayer game when?
>>750090269They should remove everything that isn't story missions from the game and make it a semi-linear singleplayer arpuger
SW should OFFFFF started out as a slavemakes more sense
>>750120026Yes. I know we will probably get Bothans or devaronians first but there’s just so many zany bone mask customizations they could make for Kaleesh.
>>750132780Well, that would be a good option if they have to shut it down someday.>>750132805It would make more sense if class mechanics were not tied down to story, and I think they are not anymore, after that class update. I think you can basically roll sith sorcerer but with sw story and vice versa, if that makes sense.
>>750133235yes but still
>>750132805Why tho, it's good to have both perspectives and the SI being the lowly slave that has unnaturally quick power progression through eating ghosts is fun
>>750132362I bet she's tired of this game, but money is money.
>>750134907beats working retail or in a fucking warehouse
>>750090269I wish someone on swtors writing team had played Kotor 2. We should’ve had at least one Echani party member who had us spar in our skivies.
>>750091394>you can't be a hypocrit on the hypocrit website
>>750130093Started this thinking I'd be Palps but it's you begging ghosts for help like a cuck the entire storyline, it's not even worth the snarky [ZAP HIM] options Also companions were all shitty and the main villain is introduced way too late, probably the worst story on Imp side
>>750136230They listed Palps and Maul as inspirations and Maul is a huge wooby fuckup after he gets wrecked in episode 1. Feminq makes the most sense because women are retarded.
>>750090269What the fuck I played this when I was 13 now I'm 53 and shits still alive???????????
>>750136860Feminq is the only one that makes sense because the entire story is bipolar foid-coded as hell.
>>750136890I used to play this game after high school I graduated uni and its still around. I started playing again and its like seeing a old friend you liked after not seeing him for 8 years.
>>750090269>and gets continued development even going into 2027 under Broadsword gamesUnironically saved by a move everyone thought meant game was going into full maintenance mode.
>>750090269The best part of the game is free to play. Easily.
I don't care what anybody says. This game is great and I love it purely because it's the last Star Wars game that allows us to play in the empire without the story forcing us to defect.
I always wanted an Imperial Trooper class. Agent's storyline is fine and whatever but I want to be a grunt climbing my way through the ranks
>>750090269I go back every now and then, it’s a pretty comfy game, decent enough classic BioWare. I never even play with other people just like the world building enough
>>750090269this game is so damn boring but the class stories are pretty high quality, if only you didnt have to suffer through the most brain-numbing combat to get to the good bits
>>750090780>since like 2023narrow miss ngl
I'm afraid of what my hours would be if this was on Steam since day 1. I played for 7 or 8 years before it was added to it.
I think a dev from the original TOR team still haunts this board, forever seething.
>>750092106As an occasional player, the answers in my subjective order are:1 - Interesting class stories, interesting companions, interesting planetary stories, interesting codex entries etc it's basically a good way to satisfy lore autism. Empire kinda beats Rep in terms of class stories by a long shot, but the female republic voice lines carry the shittier ones, especially FemShep trooper2 - utter fuckton of content, starting a new account right now promises at least 100 hours, and that is if you only do main stories. Planetary quest lines and expansions easily quintuple the amount of content3 - quite a lot of "can I really do this" moments such as bombing the Sith capital during the agent storyline or mass murdering hundreds of jedi as a Consular, to secure your career or fucking a kid's mom right after killing his dad4 - there was also an ERP scene but that diminished somewhat after AIthere's also race-specific reactions and comments from NPCs, and you can do space racism
>>750093237God I love spending time on Alderaan, 9/10 would recommend while the planet is still therethe only way it could get better was to beat the shit out of some "nobles" which is exactly what the Bounty Hunter story was about
>>750141170>fem trooper is femshep>male trooper is bj blazkowitz Always found that kinda fun.
I unironically liked Hoth. It's probably the music more than anything, but it felt very innawoods without actually being innawoods.
>>750113479wait what? source?>just look it up you lazy assholeI will, but I'm asking if you or anyone else has a screenshot available
>>750141360>https://youtu.be/cF9J2pmIHdEAlderaan BH is always amusing.
>>750138190same, a sith trooper story where you rise from one of the redshirts to commanding fleets and shit would have been neat, Agent is really too spy/James Bond to pull it off and Bounty Hunter just isn't the same deal even if you reject the mandalorians.Also would have been nice to get a non force used who can wield vibroblades and tech staves, these sorts of non-jedi/sith using specialized melee weapons are actually pretty common in both the movies and expanded universe so it's a shame the only people who can actually use the metal gear rising HF blades have basically zero reason to since lightsabers are so iconic
>>750117014I feel your anger>a blind, deaf, comatose lobotomy patient could feel MY ANGERthe voice actor for Baras was paid to have fun
>>750141809Baras was such a good villain.
>>750090328lil trukie for the fippy bippy
>>750141809EEEAEAAAAAARRRGHHH
>>750141397either one is a blast to play through, male trooper is my republic main and also the one I commited war crimes as because how can you pass up shooting unarmed politicians in public AND getting away with it>>750141714oh fuck yes this gives me dopamine>>750141513I unironically wore sunglasses on Hoth>>750108787Vette's entire arc is pic related if you play your cards right>she even puts the shock collar back on for (you)
>>750141887Nigga would have taken over the empire basically completely willingly if he didn't betray the player character.Just larping as the voice of the emperor is enough to get the dark council to back down "just incase he actually is the voice".
>>750141887he was a good mix of genuinely helpful and educational for a noob sith but also clearly seedy and manipulative and up to no good, so when his sudden but inevitable betrayal comes you're not shocked or upset but just smile at the fond memories the two of you had as you cut him into neat quarters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JsTwXsAeyko7 you fat bastard
>baras gives you a mission to kill a rival sith on dromund kaas>you can fuck his wife, and also make vette stay and watch>baras thinks it's really funny if you tell him you fucked the guys wife
>>750142195Republic Trooper was the first story I played and I honestly do not remember much other then the war crimes, the Clone Wars intro voice robot and the General's fat ass.
>>750117165big kek, DK chat isn't quite Barren's chat but close enough>>750119194>would definitely like to some dayyou can steam roll space racists as a Donut Steel OC, and you can steamroll Donut Steel OCs as a grunt, you can play your stereotype to a T or you may bamboozle enemies (and sometimes allies) by having common sense, it's worth it
>>750142545I'm trying to remember if there's a dialogue option where you sincerely thank him before you stab him in his fat guts or if I'm hallucinating that memory
>>750141513>traveling to Hoth
>>750142979
>>750141513It's one of the few icy locations in games that actually feel like being in the snow during a clear day.It's so fucking bright.
>>750142545the only """rational""" (and I use that word loosely) explanation besides muh sith paranoia, is that he saw a vision of the warrior freeing Vitiate from his prison on Voss, which would fuck up his Voice LARP ... but betraying you is exactly why you go to Voss afaik>>750142784General Garzass is one of the few female Officers I genuinely like. It depends on what lines you pick but she sometimes reveals she has a lot of skeletons in her closed and being nice to (you) is a choice>that early questline where you're ordered to kill civilians because they MAY be dangerous later>refuse>"You should obey my orders, your brain, and your heart, in that order"love the writting>>750142084
>>750143824an alternate timeline where the Warrior stays loyal to Baras and he doesn't betray you, and his plan to LARP as the Voice succeeds would be really fucking funny when Valkorion still invades with the Eternal Fleet and suddenly you're stuck trying to Weekend at Bernies the emperor even as Zakuul is in your face
>>750142784>I honestly do not remember much other then the war crimes, the Clone Wars intro voice robot and the General's fat ass.What more is there?
>>750127957She's a Padawan in that first trailer, and a Knight (I think?) in the second, where she fights Malgus. After the second trailer, she and Jace Malcolm fuck and she gets pregnant. During the Galactic Cold War, she becomes the Jedi Grand Master, so a child from a fling is somewhat problematic I guess. She has Theron trained by the Jedi but he doesn't show much Force talent so eventually he ends up at the SIS, after which they don't interact a lot. When Zakuul invades and fucks everyone up, she goes into exile and becomes a hermit. She has some presence in KotFE/ET and then Echoes of Oblivion, but at that point she's old, 60-something iirc, so her role diminishes.
>perma ice planed>called hotgeorgie...
I had a "preferred" account but I lost the mail adress it was linked to
>>750144116Catman and his storyline to kill glowies that had the """genius" plan of getting republic troops captured to find out where their prisons are4X the patriot botElara and her Paperwork Foreplaybeing only a Major despite all your success (the DLC adresses this, where Catman gave you a Colonel upgrade while you were MIA)and uh ... Tanno "sell republic weapons on the black market for booze money" Vic>>750143995kek I agree that would have been funny
>>750132382Yeah SI got shafted with his romances. Your options are 40 year old Lana with the expansion or an ugly and annoying togruta. Now that I think about it the ugly and annoying are redundant.
>>750144116nta but I remember being baffled at how corrupt and incompetent many Republic Senators and government officials were as Trooper to the point I felt like the galaxy would probably be better off if my Warrior just became emperor instead and tardwrangled everyone by force
I have a few days to kill before Forever launch and you fags make me want to play some SWTOR story!
Last time I played, inflation was so bad that most items could not be sold on the auction house because the max sale price was an order of magnitude too lowIs it still this bad or worse
>>750144604Only romance I cared for was Darht Lachris, there were some other flirts, like Acina, Shaar, but they don't go further than that.
>>750144604maybe it's just me but while ashara is definitely annoying I still think she's hot and her bitchy valley girl attitude just makes me want to channel force lightning through my dick when inside her to give her mindbreak taimanin asagi orgasms
>>750117085>2026>His helmet is still unavailable
>>750145053it's size XXL and even sith alchemists can't get the dorito smell out of it, truly frightening
>>750144996She's just clearly meant for light side SI, and male SI voice fits that better, while female SI fits more dark sided SI.
>>750144705>there are too many ambitious assholes vying for power, I need to step in and restore order>instead of 99 warlords, now there are 100democracy is the only illusion that works, Anon. Fortunately the MC was pretty much elected by the alliance>>750144996gosh she was the right combo of sexy and stupid that makes you want to both save and abuse herwhat an utter shame the romance got cut>LS version alludes to a marriage>she wants the Jedi Council approval>in the middle of a (second) warliterally made for anal re-education and lovey-dovey aftercare
>>750090328FPBP
Are there any good droid companions except for the big fuck off droid from the trooper storyline?
>>750144124I'm disappointed in her, not for being a hermit Jedi, that's just par for the course, but by abandoning her child. That is just fucked up, my boy Anakin would never. She could make it up to me with a romance option but it wouldn't feel right.>>750143824>GarzassCan you flirt with her? I honestly can't remember. I need my fade to black scene with her.
>>750145225>>instead of 99 warlords, now there are 100this is where you insert the batman/jason todd "if you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same!" "okay but what if one killer kills like 99 killers? then there's way less" meme. let me see if I can find it. also, being emperor is a legitimate position of authority and hierarchy in the empire, if it wasn't for Zildrog and the asspulled endings of KOTET due to people whining about the faction conflict being sidelined, you totally could have been actual Emperor and tardwrangled the Chaotic Evil shit into being more Lawful Evil/Lawful Neutral and less wasteful.
>>750144705>I felt like the galaxy would probably be better off if my Warrior just became emperor instead and tardwrangled everyone by force
>>750145330How about fembot shodan
>>750145330hk-55 is a real ride or die nigga.
>>750144996>>750145225I think it's the fact you don't get the option to correct her that drags her down. I'm not opposed to the philosophical differences but I just don't think my Sith Inquisitor would accept not mind breaking her with lightning orgasms.
>>750144996hot
>>750145330Scorpio is basically Sho-dan except actually neutral, in the agent ending she says something like"I'm not done with you yet" which is her way of saying she finds you interesting.Afaik part of her questline is hacking into the Empire CIA and the only reason she doesn't SHODAN everywhere it's because it would inconvenience you>>750145402kek nice pic, and yeah they do give you one (1) cutscene with the KOTOR DS ending before the whole droid fleet gets oops'd next DLC
>>750145448I always liked that she looks like robot Maria from Metropolis.No one ever has any clue what I am on about when I bring this up.
>>750145330Z00M. Such a cursed yet excellent addition.
>>750110221>How far do these storylines go considering it's been running for 15 years?they same length they were at launchall the expansions very quickly just condense into a single story that doesn't take into account your class
>>750144996I can't get over that forehead. She looks like she's balding.
>>750146456they dont have hair, how can they be balding
>>750144996>>750146456her model looks better than player made togruta tho, that uses worse looking montrails
>>750146274yeah I can see it. Gemini Prime is even more blatant since she even has the spiked semicircle head crest
>>750119438>>750119679come to think of itgame dev tycoon was like that too when you get a succesful MMO. just infinite money
>>750146549you know despite there being like 30 races to play as I've never actually made anyone that wasn't a human or cyborg, it just feels right especially for sith/jedi
>>750146682When I first tried it I made human SI, now that I returned I made both SI and SW purebloods, since I like those the best.
I kinda want to play this game but at the same time I feel like I kinda dont
>>750146863mmos are a chore, so it's understandable
>>750090269Haven't played SWTOR in a while but I liked the combat style switching they added a while back, just wish it didn't require being a subscriber to use since my former Trooper Vanguard is now stuck as a Trooper Scoundrel.
>>750146863just b urself
>>750090269Decent story game but absolutely dogshit attempt at an MMO. No surprise the former studio head came out and said he hated MMOs and only made it because he was basically begged to.
>>750146274She was cool until I realized during a cutscene that her lips move like any other normal human-based model and she blinks. That shit won't stop annoying me.
Have they added a way to get the sith version of your abilities on jedi? It always felt gay having to throw rocks instead of blasting lightning.
>>750144705>baffled at how corrupt and incompetent many Republic Senators and government officials wereReally?
>>750146274What plebs do you associate with that they don't know Metropolis?
>>750142545I liked Thanaton, I really hated how it turned out with him though. I force myself to believe he only betrayed us because he knew what Zash was up to and thought she succeeded.
>>750147702during the Trooper storyline it's not an exaggeration to say that the Republic's government is your biggest enemy rather than any of the Sith or Imps. The Imperial plots have plenty of backstabbing and self sabotage, but A: you expect that more with the Sith code and general imperial politics, and B: the people at the VERY TOP of the Empire actually are pragmatic and good at their jobs and willing to assist you wholeheartedly, it's usually the middle management who are corrupt and need murdering. The highest echelons of republic government on the other hand are literally your #1 obstacle as a Trooper. Even in KOTFE/ET, the fucking Sith Empire will send your alliance aid and help fight Valkorion because they understand what Vitiate is capable of, and Acina is willing to support you even when it looks like you probably won't win, meanwhile the Republic hems and haws about it and sits things out until it's already basically over. On my Trooper I straight up defected to support the Empire after that shit, clearly Havoc Squad would be better off without the fucking Republic at all if their """"support"""" is really fucking you over every time
>>750147597Yes. Since Legacy of the Sith, they decoupled the original Advanced Classes (renamed to "Combat Styles") from the base classes (which became "Origin Stories"); If you have a non-force origin (Agent, BH, Smuggler or Trooper) you can pick any of the tech combat styles, while you can pick sith combat styles as a jedi if you have at least one character with Dark V alignment on your legacy (and a sith with a jedi combat style if you have Light V).
>>750148146That really was meant to be sarcastic.What military story doesn't have to suffer pencilpushing bureaucrats making their work and sacrifices harder?
>>750148146it's certainly a trip as a trooper to do all of that, perhaps especially as one>be newest member of Havoc Squad, do like 1 task with your new colleagues>each and every one of them betrays the Republic because they were left to die for "winning too hard and hampering peace talks">hunt down and kill all/most of them>yo're a herro harri>newer even fuckier war happens>same betrayal happensand it doesn't help that Malcom, your kind-of-sort-of cousin from the commando troops also goes crazy on Iokath if you're not Rep
Don't forget to visit /swgg/ on /vm/, anons.
>>750148810I did so a few times and got no replies in all 9 threads I posted, on /v/ I usually get some every time
>>750148505haha....
>>750090269Skavak was based. I wish we could have split the loot and sold Risha and her father out to the King on dubrillion and make him pay out the nose for the drayen crown.
I am playing sith Inquistor and I developed a crush on lord Zash, can we romance her?
>>750149570Anon, I...As tempting as it may be to give the deets, I strongly urge you to close the thread and stay away from 4chinz until you finish up act 1. Zash isn't what she appears to be.
>>750149442The entire Smuggler storyline was written by Hamburger Helper. Are you really surprised the entire thing revolves a super special female NPC girlbossing you around for the majority of it? You don't even get to be your own guy in the Smuggler storyline, you're just Rishas glorified assistant/muscle.
>>750090656>so TORTanic isn't eosingIt's been under some new studio for like 4 years now. They're doing a graphics and engine overhaul that should be coming soon.
>>750149570It’s debatable if she’s ever going to come back. Since if you betrayed Khem he has his body back on Nathema
>>750149814>Zash isn't what she appears to be.the GILF pussy is worth it though
>>750149984Khemussy
>>750149984not even Swisgar would touch that desu
>>750149570Every single SI playthrough
>>750149915>10 years under bioware>much needed upgrades to the engine never happened>game gets put under broadsword>they do 64bit and dx12 upgrades with a budget of $10 and 6 peopleBioware fucking hated this game for some reason. Take all the money it makes and put it into Anthem, Veilguard, ect. As well as taking devs off it for those games too.
>>750149036Yeah, well, if more of you visited there would be more replies, like when on /vg/ back in 2020 or there around.
>>750150108I think Bioware have always been less-than-average when it comes to technical competence, but they made up for it with writing. Sometimes, all you need is one cracked guy on the team to really get things moving.
>>750150103Isn't there a picture thats similar to this but way bigger and expanded on?ANyone got it?
>>750110221Personally liked the Agent story the most, followed by Bounty Hunter and Sith Warrior. A few friends said they liked the Jedi Knight story the most but I never tried it. I think it's almost universal that the Consular story sucked the most, although maybe it's more fun if you subvert it with the dark side.
>>750150248I might have it on my external HDD somewhere, so not now.
>>750149820She’s only bossing you around act 1. She becomes your sassy ship wife afterwards. The smuggler feels like a reality bending virus sometimes, he’s a nobody but cucks nok drayen out of his daughter and his daughter is too busy paling around with the smuggler to take over dubrillon-even the hoarded wealth that could have bribed nobles and hired a mercenary army the smuggler is implied to have blown through (space coke binge, twilek slave party use ur imagination), he take over roguns empire, the voidwolfs fleet, and Darmas’ haunt at portnowhere.
This thread made me nostalgic and I watched the trailer for my main againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4z5qKcBmy0
>>750090269>TOR outlived BiowareGood god. And we're going to get knock-off not-Mass Effect from Hasbro before we ever get another Mass Effect game too.
>>750150387Try and go find it brother that shit was kino
>>750150467this is so fucking shit lmao>target stoically stands still for the entire 2 seconds of mag emptying before dying>charging a sniper in a straight line on open terrain>charging and nocliping through lightning because it wasn't aimed at youeverything else is cool but holy fuck it does NOT look good at sustained combat
>>750150389Every single act with Smuggler is him taking orders from some chick, after Risha it's Dodonna. You are never your own guy until arguably the very, very end. It's one of the worst stories in the game as a result.
>>750150108>some reason.it's because the main studio was in Edmonton and SWTOR was the "B-Team" at Bioware Austin. Despite funding all their shit for years and pulling people off the game to work on Anthem, they basically ignored them entirely and treated them like morons who didn't have the "Bioware Magic (TM)" when making Anthem despite already having a 5-year-old MMO by then that had actually turned itself around post-launch and earned consistent revenue.
>>750150108the skill of getting into power and the skill of using that power are two very, very different things
>>750090269basically WoW for me. It's great.I encourage people to play the stories and explore the planets and do the side-quests. It's all good.
>>750150103I know Consular is usually considered one of the weaker plots, but I actually really liked a lot of it, especially the idea that even before learning the shielding technique (You) were already considered a prodigy padawan and a budding genius, and how unfair it is for the older generations of Jedi to put such a burden on your shoulders just because you're the only person left knowing how to do the suicide martyrdom ritual, and how they take it for granted you'll set your own potential and lifespan on fire to save them from their own fuckups and mistakes.The original class story also actually had some teeth to the choices, since you got a stacking and permanent debuff to some stats with every person you chose to save, since the whole idea was it's not a cure, but a permanent burden as you maintain the Shields on them and are basically Atlas holding up the world, and everyone's asking to pile on more rocks, so the choices to save or let die people was really a sacrifice (until you finish the class story and achieve Zen enlightment, where maintaining the shields is now effortless since we can't have the PC be a genuine cripple)
>>750151134>Basically WoW for meSo it's that terrible and dogshit? Damn, dodged a bullet never playing it then.
>>750151306Consular is considered one of the weaker storylines because it makes zero sense if you are anything but LS Jesus. Compare it to Sith Warrior, where it feels great to be both DS AND LS, and both make sense within the context of the story. Consular failed to achieve this, DS Consular just feels bizarre and out of place in the narrative they set up, so it's automatically a tier below the stories where you can be both and the narrative supports it either way.
>>750150245apparently senior leadership at bioware was really delusional enough to believe people were playing their games for the gameplay, not the writing. When all their head writers left the company (in several cases, explicitly because the owners told them the writing wasn't important and was getting in the way of making the games they wanted), they thought it wasn't a big deal because the combat in Andromeda and Veilguard was more fleshed out than previous games. Like, they fundamentally did not understand that people were not playing Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR for the riveting turn-based d20 D&D 3rd edition combat, but because they liked the writing of people like Rob Bartel and Drew Karpyshyn and that Peebee and Taash were going to go over like a sack of bricks
>>750090269hairy chiss pussy...
>>750150947>>750150389unless you are self-inserting, the republic stories are excellent for viewing "from the outside". My fem smuggler was a massive perv who required lots of bodymods to survive her actual fetishes, so she was ok to do pretty much anything as long as it paid and the law was kept at bay. When the source of her legitimacy evaporated, she turned all that sexual frustration on the traitor which is how she accomplished those last bullshit feats despite not being FS>>750151421do you have anything better to do like sitting an hour on the toilet doomscrolling?>>750151567DS Consular is someone who realized they were given a gun and shipped to war before they were allowed to drink. You're thinking with meta-knowledge, but IC if you're given THAT much responsability with no payoff + mega restrictions then you're gonna forget about being "the hero" quite fast>>750151658thanks for replying what I was gonna say but in a smarter way
>>750150947>senator is taking a risk by paying you the big bucks to be a privateer and you have to pay lip service to her directives for the most part steak too juicy
>>750151306>>750151567I have only played up to Coruscant with the Consular and I liked what I saw but I went back to my Bounty Hunter and forgot about it for awhile. How does the romance work? Is it a break with the aesthetic to suddenly be flirting after playing essentially Jesus? I played a straight laced Imperial Agent but flirted with the Watcher at base and it felt kind of strange. I suppose you could play it like Qui-gon.
>>750151718Kino
Consular has the shittiest companions options
>>750090269>under Broadsword gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjld8X0e74A
>>750151770'sex is contribution in itself
>>750151770I still think its really funny that the monostory from KOTET onwards made every force-sensitive class into complete jobbers because they all had to share feats and story beats with smuggler. Also was pretty enjoyable to see how mad they got at being boxed into a singular focus mando narrative after techies were put in the chosen one spot with Valky for years and years.
>>750151890barely legal albino pussy, you date your student as malegenious womanizer as female, but he has a female AI hologram like in blade runner who may or may not hate you for stealing his attention
>>750151961not-Bossk is kinda cool but I never played consular long enough to get a feel for all their personalities lol
>>750150947eh, one's a pirate princess you're balls deep in every night and the other is your sugar mommy oersonal senator on speed-dial who's job is to bail your ass out when you run into trouble with the law. And by the end you're the new pirate king after finding the One Piece. In terms of getting bossed around I'd say Consular is the one with the actual least agency, since you're just a padawan in training getting told to throw yourself in the meatgrinder by the Jedi Council, and even if you go Dark Side and let most of the shielding targets die, you don't actually get to tell them to fuck off when they order you from planet to planet to go play human shield. You kinda have to RP as a reluctant/bitter savior even as DS
>>750151770No, it's simply not written in a narratively cohesive fashion if you roll DS with Consular. Yes, there are REASONS you should go DS, but the way it's actually executed in the story as presented falls utterly flat on its face and you end up feeling out of place in story you don't belong in if you go DS Consular, since the entire story more or less is framed with the assumption you're playing LS Jesus and it only functions in a cohesive way if you are doing so. So if you play LS Consular you will think it's a decent, if tad dull storyline, but if you play DS Consular you will (rightfully) consider it horribly written trash.>>750151890The romance is fine, it's just the classic student falls in love with her teacher bit. Whether or not you enjoy that type of romance is up to personal taste.
>>750152258If you turn off the alignment notifications does it still feel out of place to be dark?
>>750150103I should do a bounty hunter run one of these days
Are they still updating the engine?
>>750150389Smuggler is a Monkey Island protagonist in a galaxy of grim-faced CRPG characters and it's pretty funny. The intro of KOTFE where you as a non-force sensitive thief and pirate somehow end up getting blamed for the Emperor's death and fighting off Arcann with just a blaster pistol is literally some point and click adventure nonsense
>>750152073>>750152258Isn't the male Consular's romance like last act only? Does it still feel like it has as much content as the others?
>>750151770I don't give a fuck about your personal head canon or fan fiction dude, the fact of the matter is the Smuggler storyline is one where you, the supposed main character, are just following the orders and directives of the girlboss characters who are the actual center of the narrative drive in the story. It's shit. The fact you enjoyed eating that shit does not change its quantity or nature.
Is Consular the only class with an objectively bad crew? Qy'Zen is good, but your Consular basically has to be okay with enabling a fucking psycho that hunts sapients for sport and is insisting you're a prophet in his bloodcult. On the other end of the spectrum, Bounty Hunter has probably the best and most enjoyable crew in regards to how close-knit it feels and how functional they are as a team (until Skadge shows up)
>>750151718is chiss pussy pink on the inside or a different shade of blue?
>>750152683they're neon red like their eyes
>>750152513I get broadsword has a lot on its plate now but even before they implement tech melee I just want to be able to whip a sword out like Trask for kotfe saber duel cutscenes.
>>750152357Yeah. Because you are basically telling the Council to fuck off and letting the targets die, but you still end up doing everything the Council wants anyway and more or less have to follow the storyline as if you're actually saving them, and it really changes nothing. Comparing to the actually well written storylines like Sith Warrior or Imperial Agent is night and day. Honestly I feel like the only Republic class that did DS options correctly was Jedi Knight, since you are basically Revan 2.0 in that, deciding the Council and its ways are too soft and it's time to brutalize the enemy and win at any cost. I suppose Trooper was alright, still feels better to play LS as that though. And Smuggler is garbage regardless of alignment choice.
>>750150103only agent and bounty hunter looks interesting based on those pictures
>>750151890>How does the romance work?You're given a Padawan and since you're literally the only person in the galaxy who knows how to shield the Force Plague, so even if the Council disapproves of you playing hot-for-teacher with your new student they can't meaningfully discipline or stop you from telling the code of celibacy to fuck off when for most of the story you assume you won't live to 25
>>750152598>leaves a trail of dead stupid mooks on every planet I am the prophet of the scorekeeper.
>>750152081You get a ligger who's religiously obsessed about hunting stuff (and failed spectacularly at their religion)a nigger who gets passed around from job to job like he is bad news (and not entirely his fault)a twi'gger who doesn't know really know what to do after the wara looksmaxxxer who is rich and also a nerd but somehow ends up broke and asks you to sign promisory notes that he will pay, on behalf of the Jedi Order (lolno)and an incredibly exploitable wide-eyed teen who was such a 1:1 of my daughter that I never chose the romance option>>750152592calm down zigga lest you poke a few holes in your cloak, and no I didn't enjoy the story, it was so shit that I made up reasons to not press escape every cutscene>>750152861as a consular you could say you got a vision that you'll be the warlord of a galactic alliance of cow people, hipsters and LSD koreans if you follow the jedi council's orders so that's why you do it
>>750152557The romances in this game in general are bare bones. People post about Vette a lot but it's just the general idea of fucking a cute virgin teenage slave girl that carries her, she has a few lines every act for the romance and that's it. None of it was heavy, major content and anyone telling you to play SWTOR for the romances is either a delusional fuckwit or a brain damaged retard who thinks their imagination filling in the MASSIVE blanks in the romances makes them good and enjoyable. You play this game for the class storylines and that's it, and even half of them aren't good, so yeah. SWTOR can be a fun way to kill time but definitely go into it with eyes wide open and don't believe what the shills are saying about it being a great overall experience full of content, because it absolutely is not that and never will be.
>>750152258the best way to play consular is gray/mixing LS and DS as the situation calls for, only shield the people who you really feel deserve it and tell the council to fuck off when they whine. You only have so many pounds of flesh to give, so being judicious about who you save is the most interesting option
>>750152598Imperial Agent, despite being the best class story, actually has a really subpar crew compared to the rest.
>>750153137>shillsbioware is bankrupt and shut down, who the fuck has money to shill a fourteen year old tab target mmo
>>750153198I would only really call Raina a bad addition. SCORPIO is the latecomer, and suffers all the same flaws of the other final companions because of it, but the overall theme with Agent's crew is that while they're co-operative and even pleasant to be around, they still can't be trusted and all have their own hidden motivations and goals that aren't as important as being your friend/ally.
>>750153161Quite honestly none of the targets deserved to be shielded, they were all traitorous assholes who should've been left to die.
>>750153198if Vector was genderbent I'd like her a lot but as a dude I don't have much interest since I don't care if it's a hivemind I'm not a homo, Kaliyo is an actual BPDemon who's somehow even less likeable than Quinn, Scorpio is alright but is very barebones until KOTFE, and Raina is like the definition of "inoffensive" since despite being a fucking professional glowie and assassin for the EVIL SPACE WIZARD EMPIRE she manages to come across as boring
>>750153137Thanks fren
>>750152592>I became a starship captain so I wouldn’t have to do homeworkYea the smuggler is a himbo whose good with a gun and his cock. Leia tames Han in the ot/expanded universe too. Act 2-3 definitely aren’t as good. Would have rather battled Skavak like Nok and Diago.
for me, it's Brontes
>>750153481Raina is interesting because she's one of the few jungle fever-friendly romances ever. For all the pushing of black women, Bioware almost never wanted you to actually romance one. Neither did Obsidian, or InXile, or Owlcat or any of their ilk. It's exceedingly rare.
Lana Love
>>750153623KEK
>>750153623based lana enjoyer
>>750153623Koobina...
I love lord Zash, that scene will she tells you good job and strokes your cheek is kino.
>>750153623agreed
>>750153580I thought she was supposed to be space Indian since the Empire are space british with received pronunciation accents but I can see black maybe. I always use a companion customization for her anyways though since I don't like her default short hair
>>750153697KOOOOOOOBINAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Can someone post old TORtanic memes and pics/gifs of the launch jank? I lost all of mine.
Vette vs Mako catfightWho wins?
>>750153824Mako>Blizz cheerleader>Standby sisterclones to help her if she gets her ass beat>doesn't have grabbable brain tubesVette's only advantage is pain tolerance from being shocked 24/7
>>750153714Too bad how things end...
>>750153824Vette is too busy pumping out pureblood twigger abominations to get in cat fights.
>>750152598Behold, the objective SWTOR companion tier list. With this you can easily see who has the best and worst crew overall.
Keep original waifu or go for new Sith waifu postergirl? Answer carefully!
Found these babies on Ord Mantell. You like?
>>750153824Mako easily.
>>750153824Vette for sure, she's a slicer too but her main thing is lara croft tomb raider shit dual wielding blasters, in chapter 13 of kotfe she's literally mowing down dozens of skytroopers with a stolen gatling gun, she has way more combat experience and is more of an all-purpose skill monkey rogue vs Mako.Mako's whole deal was that her dad raised her sheltered and tried to keep her safe and she was the teenage computer genius helping with her dad (and later your) armor and equipment, she can obviously fight but I'd compare her to somebody like Quinn who's main job is obviously noncombat (before every companion could do everything, she was a healer like Quinn too and uses a knife and single pistol)
>>750154010>Kira and Nadia only B>Kaliyo AAnon what
>>750154010>Vector in S>Lokin and Doc in B
Broadsword give me back Shara and Jaxo and my life is yours!
>>750154010>Kaliyo and Quinn above Kira and Asharadid a woman (XX) make this
>>750154165What exactly is interesting or great about Kira and Nadia? Sure they're fun fucktoys and have cute romances, but what makes them actually compelling as characters outside of that? Kiras a little bit better with her whole backstory, but it really goes nowhere so eh. Meanwhile Kaliyo is a psychopathic, narcissistic bitch who is only using (you) while you use her, and is very open about that fact. Kaliyo is not as LIKEABLE as those two, but she's definitely a better written and more interesting character than they are.
>>750154310a woman wouldn't put corso the beta simp in A tier
>>750154382they might, I know some actually like him. the Vector in S is also telling since literally the only people I see who care about or like him are I CAN FIX HIM girlies
>>750154168Vector has a great concept that's written well, actually attempting to portray what it would be like to become part of a hivemind and its benefits and drawbacks was very fun to explore.
My pureblood SI.
>>750092106>perfect to just hop-in every couple months and do some leveling since 90% of the game is focused around solo content>only still developed Star Wars mmo>only still relevant Old Republic media>easy money for publisher with tv show/movie related shop items>over a decade on the market>Star Wars so you will always have people willing to play>F2P for the most part>Low expectations from player base at this pointI think the main reason for them keeping TOR alive is just an excuse EA and Disney have for not making a new SW MMO and keeping people from flocking to SW Galaxy private server. They still make content. It's slow and not really anything impressive but they decided to re-work the engine for DirectX 12 which is a massive amount of work. Im pretty sure that means they won't be putting it in maintenance mode anytime soon. Don't expect any major expansion tho. The voice acting alone costs them loads.
>>750154527My SW and SI again.
>>750154382Corso is just a good guy who (rightly) considers women to be too irresponsible and stupid to be held truly accountable for their actions.
>>750154527I miss my Inq. She was that green race (forget the name) and wearing that chestpiece with the bones on it, all dyed black. Somebody in a raid once told me she looked like the OG monster can and I can never unsee it.
>>750154010Personally I found Blizz annoying as fuck on bounty hunter, he should have been on jedi knight instead. Also no way you have Kira and Jaesa that low. Dark side Jaesa is the best to have around and Kira should be at least A tier. Also Broonmark is the GOAT, he S tier
>>750154450The whole point of Vector is that there's nothing to be "fixed", though, he's happy being part of the hivemind. Also he shuts off the programming if he decides the Empires directives supersede the hive minds desires, as he's ultimately still more loyal to the Empire than he is to the hive.
>>750154010T7-01 is terrible no personality he is in D tier. Mako is B tier at best. Quinn in A tier is terrible. Your ranking is dog shit.
>>750154687Why should Blizz be on Jedi Knight? He fits in fine with the BH crew.
>>750154278>Anon whatBroadsword give me Vaylin romance and my money is yours
>>750154687Headcannon that I keep blizz around so he can hide me on Tatooine if I ever piss off too many people.
>>750154818I like cute girls.What's her name.
>>750154527hot my human male jedi knight would love to rape in the battlefield as a war crime.
>>750154601Kinda hate how purebloods all suffer from sameface because they only ever gave them 1 head shape.
>>750154818I remember when knights first came out I thought we'd be able to redeem and romance Vaylin. How stupid I was...
>>750154818Watcher 2 and Jaxo are top tier waifus.
>>750154798Anytime i would open up firing on targets blizz would be unhappy, he doesn't fit a bounty hunter's crew. on jedi knight i could see blizz being super good fit. Blizz is good character but in the wrong story.
>>750154818Post that flirt pic edited with her blushing.>>750154882He would get castrated after sex.
Why do people dislike Quinn, anyway? Just because of the betrayal? It made sense for his character and it was neat to have a character actually do what his character would despite metagame concerns. Too bad they didn't keep it in the game that you could actually have real consequences for it if you decided to kill him for it. Or is it simpler than that and people dislike Quinn just because he actively attacks and criticizes Vette, everyones favorite?
>>750154859Her name is Vaylin and I can fix her. I want to make her my empress
>>750154894greenskins have no rights
>>750154894I think they will add more when they modernize them.
>>750154363>What exactly is interesting or great about Kira and Nadia? Sure they're fun fucktoys and have cute romancesYou answered your own question, bro! I like likeable characters. Kaliyo might be more interesting for a novel, or a movie, but this is a game and I don't want to deal with psychos berating me or trying to cuck me. I'm an innocent, sensitive soul.
>>750155023Well yeah dude, they're twiggers.
>>750155008I’m more upset that he went through all that effort and the boss fight was easy. At least try to kill me properly.
>>750110221Agent and Sith Warrior are the best.Inquisitor is good if you just want to zap idiots.Jedi Knight is classic hero shit, if you enjoy that it's fine.Jedi Consular is Space Jesus and actually is what a Jedi should be if they weren't a bunch of hypocrites.BH and Smuggler start good but falter when they get forced to ally with Imperials/Republic.Trooper is the worst, bog standard action military movie shit.
>>750155008I don't like professional brownosers. But then, his character is what it is. I wouldn't like most characters irl.
>>750155008
>>750155008They should re-enable companion kills. I don't know why the fuck they listened to people that were upset that killing someone would have them die.
>>750090269How the fuck is this shit still alive? Who's even playing it?
>>750155008I personally dislike quinn cause he reminds me of the guy in school that would always snitch on people to the teacher and would follow rules too much.
>>750154972That's just a LS/DS issue. Mako will also get upset, that doesn't make her a bad character. That's like saying Khem Val is a bad character because he dislikes you if you pick LS choices, that's just part of who and what the character is. Blizz fits in perfectly fine with a LS BH, and that's what he's there for, same as Mako.
They should unfuck the male BT4's shit so that he's proper bearmode and not just Majin Buu.
>>750155168>fucking beta testers cried about losing the master title for being dark sideMy ds Jedi knight character could have been a General!
>>750155308Blizz is like a dog he will forget about the brutal murders you two committed and be happily tinkering away on some device on the ship.
>>750154931>>750155019>redeem and fixCowards. I wanted her as a romance so I can have a waifu as crazy and evil as my max Darkside Sith Inquisitor was. Like sure Lana is okay, but that girl is DS II at most.
>>750152073>barely legal albino pussy, you date your student as maleI'm sold>>750152940>>750152258Isn't it kind of raising her for failure though? Unless I can turn my force ability around to make me immortal/long lived won't she just schizo out and go Sith when I die?>>750152557>last actPain, just pain.>>750154894I want to marry and procreate with middle
>>750155308>Mako will also get upset, that doesn't make her a bad character.It does though. Getting mad at a bounty hunter for hunting their targets is peak retardation.
>>750145354She and malgus are fated to kill each other.SWTOR began with them and it will die with them.
>>750153198Lokin is the coolest companion in the game, even if he feels a bit oc donut steelHe wears a facade of a lovely elderly gent, but is actually a hardcore glownigger who outlived all his companionsHe will play mind games and fuck with you, yet he enjoys when you call him out Overall, it's a weird bunch of completely untrustworthy bastards, but they are well written, and they aren't exactly written to be likeable
>>750155308mako is usually okay with you doing bounty hunter shit and shooting targets who have it coming from what I remember
>>750155228anons
>>750146605That's exactly why publishers and devs keep chasing GaaS. If you can make a successful one, its pretty much a money printer. Problem is with the making a successful one part. Even if the game is good you still have to convince people to pay for yet another subscription or another pile of micro-transactions.
>>750155460You can hunt and capture them without being a sadistic killer, though. Hell one of the LS options in the BHs storyline is to kill a guy rather than hand him over to the Hutts to be tortured to death. All you have to do in order to make Blizz and Mako happy is not go out of your way to inflict unnecessary harm on people.
The best way to larp as a stormtrooper is to play male jk and consular in trooper armor because they are so disinterested and calm.
>>750149820It's really funny when you romance Risha and the Mando and you can pick the mando by saying "it was fun to flirt but now you're boring"
>>750139752I'm only missing the 100 valor chiev but I would have reached it long ago if valor was legacy wide
>>750155604The truth is the smuggler would have smoked her if she tried to betray him like Nok asked and she knows it.
>>750155595I really like using trooper parts on my jk
>>750155595I use armor for my SW and SI, either stuff from cartel coins or just random loot to build an outfit, just makes more sense. Robes are for meetings or whatever, but for combat zones it's armor.And snow camo armor for Hoth.
>>750155308Mako's issue is moreso that she's very obviously been coddled by Braden, and she has a very romanticized idea of what Bounty Hunter work is like. She was always kept in a saferoom as the intel girl, only ever actually being exposed to the dirty hands-on side of the career once she's your tagalong sidekick. I don't understand how so many people miss this, particularly with how she wraps up Nar Shaddaa with you back on the ship. She basically has a crisis of self and has to come to terms with the fact that her whole life has a very thin line separating her from outright hitmen and scumbags like the Eidolon. She's still largely okay with shooting bad guys and getting paid for it, but there's inevitable friction if you follow through with a contract even if the target isn't 'bad', because its ruining her fantasy of the chaotic good gunslinger.also, mako customization 2 best mako
Well, it was fun, but as I said, visit /swgg/ on /vm/ sometimes.
>>750155843BASED
I miss my SI. I might go back but the expansions after SoR really soured me on the game. The raids were fun though.
>watching S1 of Mando made me want to play one>having fun as a Mando BH with a rifle>cutscene forcibly removes helmetNoooo, this is not the Way!!
>>750090269Rip mass effecthttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2TICvvPBG8&pp=ygUSTWFzcyBlZmZlY3QgbWVtZXMg&ra=m
>>750156282How are you supposed to eat mako’s pussy with your helmet on?
>>750155432By fixing I meant keeping her evil but giving her my dick to fix her
>>750158239>"Uh??? Based on WHAT?"
>>750154818She was hotter before they gave her the hijab and tattoos. Fuck whoever decided Arcann deserved redemption instead of Vaylin.
