what was the plot going to be about?
>>750090573Spreading the genophage to every living thing with a X chromosome
>>750090573Probably how diversity is our strength and everything is Shepards fault, the white male canon one, but his daughter will put everything back the way it was meant to be
A group of rag tag adventurers meet through Star Fleet academy and embark on a series of odd adventures, all led by you, Commander Okumbé. Discover the lands of Skyrim in Mass: Effect 4: wilds.
(I'm only human after all) part 2
>>750090573>older Liara looking for Shepard with new crew>new relays being built>maybe Cerberus is brought back?>some type of crossover with Andromeda with angara appearing in some concept art
>>750090573Some gay shit.
>>750090573probably something even dumber than reapershit
>>750091452The only way Older Liara would be looking for Shepard, is with a metal detector. Because he'd be dead and buried.
We were going to play as some twink secret agent.
>>750091734Shepard survives in the Destroy ending. Liara finds some of his armor in the teaser trailer.Supposedly it was going to be set centuries after 3 though.
>>750090573
>>750091734tard
>>750091624Only acceptable answerVeilguard killed bioware
>>750091690>Somehow...the Reapers returned.
>>750091821>>750091937How is Shepard going to survive to Octogenarian Liara years in the future? He's not an Asari or a Krogan. Not to mention, the moment my wife dies, my Shepard, if still alive, ends it all.
>>750091452>some type of crossover with Andromeda with angaraThis one thing would have killed my interest in it as awhole.
gay and trans krogans taking over the galaxy
>>750090573Liara would wear her moms old outfit and would give you nursing handjobs and blowy joeies and lots of paizuri
>>750090573rape
>>750090573We fix the Krogan issue, one human broodmother at a time.
My guess is>evil crazy AI>after the intact body of dead reaper to upgrade itself>helped by creator who thinks it could be beneficial to the galaxyThen they could redo the first game's plot and spin that into a new trilogy
>>750091452So, the relay being built would go to Andromeda.The Geth pulled a Lazarus type project on Shepard, creating a sort of perfect copy of who he/she was with a memory imprint they've had since the Geth part of ME3, so very close to the end of the game.The scourge in Andromeda caused a time dilation effect in dark space between the 2 galaxies, which are merging faster than estimated, due to the entropy of Eezo (the Dark Energy ending retooled)And Ryder arrives in the original setting, along with the Angara, and the Geth also merged with Quarians in this future, so the Geth wear clothes and shit.The Council was shutting down the Geth's knowledge about Shepard and Liara is uncovering it as a conspiracy.The new protagonist you play as hear the rumors about a dangerous geth revival somewhere, but it's being Fake News'd on New Earth on the New Citadel, who are trying to stop any spread of news that the Andromeda relay is sending the entropy-effect to our galaxy or something like this.You bump into Liara who is looking for Shepard, and you both look for Shepard, as you bump into the game's villain, who's an evil human dude, who wants to harness the power of the scourge or something, instead of stopping it from spreading, and Shepard is where the Geth are, and the Geth have found some "answer" to culling the spread of the scourge. Bad guy wants it to harness it, and the others want it to stop it, especially Ryder who spent off-screen sequel-time in Andromeda telling you "how bad it's gotten" and stuff about his mom being in coma.It was something like this.I know someone who knows someone, who knew someone at BioWare who said stuff 3 years ago.
>>750092118He probably would have been turned into a cyborg or A.I., maybe by the geth like in the original concept for 2's story.They would need to retcon the Destroy ending to let the geth survive though. Unless they just handwave it with the quarians rebuilding them.
Joking aside it would have been yet another lazy ancient evil awakens but this time in space bullshit story. They'd then get a new writer who abandons that plot halfway through the trilogy and some reapers that remained in dark space were actually behind it all
>>750092091backup reapers hidden in dark space
>>750090573I couldn't care less, glad it died so it wouldn't have ruined the OG trilogy
>>750092619>He probably would have been turned into a cyborg or A.IThen that's not Shepard. That's some synthetic zombie.
>>750090573There was no fucking way it was going to turn out good.
>>750092581The geth died in the canon destroy ending. The quarians probably remade them in a week, though.
>>750091821Okay, so how the fuck would Shepard have been handled?>frozen cryogenically after me3 because?>clone made by Liara because???>necromancy????
>>750090573The consequences of curing the genophage
>>750090573This video shows the prologue to ME4 story:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIQu1yROUo4
>>750090573I'm sure someone will spill the beans sooner or later.
>>750090573Gay niggers in space, probably.
>>750092810You could say the same about him after being resurrected in 2.
>>750092917Geth upload his mind into one of their servers or bodies.
>>750093118Mass Effect 2 went out of its way to affirm that this is the genuine, 100% Shepard. An ageless 1000 year old Shepard is more synthetic slop than man. I reject the assertion, and I will not be buying Another Bioware Crash.
doesn't really matter anymore. They should have never made Andromeda. Terrible concept, bad execution, mediocre mess of a game and any game that would keep that game canon was going to fail. The entire concept of merging the Andromeda story with the ending of ME3 was awful. What they should have done is smaller budget games set in the Mass Effect universe where the entire point of the game isn't saving the universe, but smaller scale conflicts and stories. That would have worked, and the universe of mass effect is big enough to tell whatever story you could possibly think of especially with how the end of ME3 and the entire galaxy rebuilding after the reapers, there was ample opportunity to create a story there.
>>750092917Lazarus Project made him immortal
>>750092581Glad that trash got canceled
>>750090573You play as Liara and Sheppard's daughter who became an even more powerful Ardat-Yakshi than Morinth and travels around as a sex-crazed futa, raping and killing indiscriminately and using your free time to hunt down the remainder of the batarian rats to purge the galaxy of their filth
>>750093273I'm seeing sympathizers online say Andromeda was good now.
>>750092118The same way the people that went to andromeda didn't die of old age on their way
>>750092850They had some plan for this. Basically all 3 endings "happen but they don't".So the only canonicality of the ME3 endings was>Everyone knew Shepard went up to the Citadel>And when he was gone, the Reapers were gone within months tooAnd they kinda just leave it at that the whole game, for budgetary reasons.The plan was to have a Pre-military service history setting in the character creator between the 3 endings, but reworded so Destroy was called something else like "Against Synthetic Life" or something like that.The 3 settings would then have some expanded dialogue in the middle of the game during the game's quests, and they'd have a way to unify the fate of the Geth between all 3. So in Destroy they had a backup site, which they also have in the other versions, but they only completely restored if it was the Destroy ending, and used the Backup for that "Shepard Data and Scourge" in the other ones. In all 3 versions they ultimately merge with the Quarians in the near future, and start wearing clothes.The "Krogan Civil War" concept art they showed was the same kind of thing, but unifying a world-state for the Krogan regardless of how ME3's Genophage outcome happened. So again, either world-state would have some writing mid-way through it that varies, but ultimately there is this "Civil War" in the past of the new game, which either was when the Krogan Champion overthrew the expansionist Krogan Warlord who led the Krogan after "SABOTAGE" world-state, or it's the Krogan Champion fighting and winning against an uprising, and keeping the Krogan from becoming expansionist in the "CURE" world state, so in both you end up with the Krogan talking about this civil war being so bloody, and a Krogan "hero" who went down in history, and also whether they celebrate or lament Shepard's legacy.The game would be 90% focused on a new protagonist with Liara, Shepard and OT stuff being sort of a dangling carrot to keep people from dropping the game.
>>750093273>Terrible conceptThis is just fucking false. Exploring a whole new galaxy after ME3 was the only way to series to go forward.
>>750090573https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayniggers_from_Outer_Space
>>750092850No, there were geth in the promo images, and the big symbol of the main promo image in fact was a geth head
>>750093369Why would Shepard put himself in Cryo for 1000 years, while young, and do it without his wife?
>>750093273Nah, another galaxy was the only possible rational choice. Even at release, I remember people mentioning the next game being set outside the Milky Way.
>>750093380Guaranteed flop.
>>750093357It wasn't the worst thing I've ever played. It just was not memorable at all, certainly not good. There's nothing about it that ever makes me want to ever install it or play it ever again. Gameplay was OK, the worlds were OK for the most part. The lore, setting, story, characters, etc. That is where the game is just completely soulless and pointless. None of them are interesting in the slightest. The main antagonists are trash and uninteresting. It's just a bad setting too. When Mass Effect already has such a large universe in the milky way that is virtually unexplored, why move it to another fucking galaxy that is not even 1% as interesting as the shit in the milky way?
>>750092581Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the Andromeda crossover. Baffles me how they wanted to make Andromeda 2 when it was universally hated (besides some vocal fags on Reddit and Twitter who like everything)
>>750090573>earthlings bad>humans bad>men badsame old story
BBC and transitioning
>>750090573I have no idead honestly. I dont even think that was supposed to be an older Liara as well. Because at that point bringing Shepard back makes literally no sense. Destroy ending SHOWS that Shep is alive, like right after whole thing blows up.I dont even think retards at bioware knew what they wanted to do. They just kept releasing meaningless teasers to keep brand relevant.
>>750093445Maybe they shouldn't have burnt down the Milky Way then, because if your only solution is a terrible concept, then you don't have a franchise, you have a problem.
>>750093273I liked Andromed fighting style, it could be improved but not bad, the rest of the mechanics and story was terrible. Exploring was hardly rewarding, and side stories were lame. I think the Andromeda concept was good, sadly, very poorly executed. In the end, it was a mess since its design, Bioware didn't know what it was doing anymore, too afraid to try new things and just go for it like it did before. Such a shame, still, deserved.
>retards still think they would've brought Shepard back
>>750090573Whatever is the latest virtue signaling trend in the 2030s, because that was when it was actually going to release.
>>750093494Yeah, they were remade, you see. Shepard only survives in the destroy ending, so that's the canon one according to this game.
>>750093380Should have just made the Destroy ending, curing the Genophage, and Quarian-Geth peace canon. Would have saved them so much trouble.
>>750093789They would if they were smart and wanted to keep the lights on.
>>750093680This is because Mike Gamble and his cronies from the other EA studios feel a huge personal attachment to Andromed and their time in the studio together. Mass Effect 3 was basically Gamble's first full AAA release, and he was just an underdog on that project trying to get into a position of any form of creative decisionmaking, and Andromeda was the first time he was kinda in charge of something, so he clearly remembers that game as if it's "his".
>>750093445That just shows how incredibly low IQ you are.
>>750093845Exactly. Continue with a surviving Shepard and going with that.
>>750090573I play games for actual gameplay, not for a plot.
>>750090573Liara becomes a justicar and executes anyone using incorrect pronouns
>>750093789They could have brought him back but as an old man/woman mentor for the nu-shephard. Like a Captain Anderson figure. I doubt they would have ever made him the protagonist again.
>>750093445Except that new galaxy is filled with shitty ripoff versions of the characters and places that people actually cared about.>discount Citadel>discount Omega>discount Normandy>discount Shepard>discount Liara>discount Wrex>discount Garrus (now female)>discount Ashley>Jacob but British>discount Collectors>one new alien race who look like retarded twileks and are all lame and gay
>>750093893Sounds like he gambled on the wrong horse.
Bioware didn't make games. They made bloated choose your own adventure novels filled with gay fanfic tier writing.
>>750090573Shepherd returns and both MaleShep and FemShep are confirmed canon as xhey are non-binary
>>750093380>They had some plan for this. Basically all 3 endings "happen but they don't".No wonder they hired Deux Ex writer for this lmao
>>750093445>>750093608No one ordered Bioware to fuck off to Andromeda>"it was necessary!"That was a retarded excuse then and it's a retarded excuse now>FPS set during the First Contact War>L.A Noire-esque game set entirely in the Citadel where you play a C-Sec officer solving crimes>survival horror where you're a miner trapped in one of the ME1 mines, basically Dead Space in the ME universe>Uncharted-esque game where you're a space pirate or bounty hunter in the Terminus Systems>Hitman/Ass Creed game where you're a Salarian STG/Drell assassin hunting down targets in exotic megalopolises>X-COM clone where you control a Cerberus CellAny of these could've been done. Set before 1, during 2, in time after 3 when you've gained some trust back. Pulling a pic related was never not unfathomably stupid and self-defeating.
>>750093565Cerberus remains kidnap him when the falls to earth in the destroy ending and cryo and hide him in some uncharted part of the galaxy there you go
>>750094239ME3 has some of the best combat in any third person shooter.
>>750090573My happy marriage with Tali
>>750093725Mass Effect was decided to be just a trilogy sometime early on in ME2's writing. EA is the one that pushed for more after buying them.
>>750093858The exact opposite, actually: the easiest way to fuck everything up, pulling a Luke Skywalker on him.
>>750094426Alright, did you hand my Shepard a gun? I'm committing suicide. I'm not going 1000 years in the future with just Liara.
>>750093719I was hoping for refuse being canon and ME4 being set in the next cycle
>>750090573They very clearly had no fucking clue. 6 years on and shit was still in "early development"
>>750094449If the combat in bioware games is so great, why did every game since BG 1 make it optional?
>uhhh aincent aincent evil alien race with mindless drone robots are swarming the milky way>uuuhhhh you have to build a new NATO to combat the Russians>uuuuh here is 1(one) new alien female companion that can only be romance through the nonbinary gender option
>>750092581>>750093380sounds like shit
>>750094513Everyone knew that ME3 was not going to be the end of Mass Effect, and the plan was even to pass it over to Montreal, before ME3 even had an ending. Edmonton knew they were fucking up and went on regardless. And when we told them, they threw a hissy fit. Not my problem.>>750094517Yeah, just show Rook II or Ryder II. What could possibly go wrong? Suffer a catastrophic failure that no marketing campaign could possibly reverse? What? Why would that happen?At least, even if you fuck up Shepard, you'll have sold enough copies to suck on EA's tit for another 6 years.
>>750090573It was probably going to be full of tranny and gay shit, which is why the saudis killed it off.
>>750090573>"Hey, the worst companion is STILL ALIVE! and STILL OBSESSED with (you)! Aren't you excited!?"RIP in piece Bioware
I would have liked to see something set a few years after 3, canonizing destroy, where Shepard acts as a mentor for the new player character in a story that is much lower stakes/the main quest is of personal importance to the character rather than world saving. Save import of campaigns ending with destroy could be used to pull end state data on all the side characters and important quests from trilogy as well as things like shepard appearance and romances.
>>750093725They could have easily made ME4 about the galaxy rebuilding after the Reaper War. It would be like the Wild West with most of species’ governments fucked by the war or starting to fight with each other again. Could have introduced the yahg, raloi, and other new species as major players taking advantage of the galaxy’s weakness.
>>750094740What?
>>750091904lol
>>750094871But that's not the black dude or the ninja girl or miranda
>>750094959The irony of Bioware putting so much prevelance on the writing in their games is that the writing was always dogshit.
>>750094601In that scenario humanity doesnt exist so that was never going to happen.
>>750090573The Geth. It was about the only interest card they could play left.
>>750095038You heard me, tranny. If the combat in bioware games is so good why are all of their games made with a super easy narrative option where the combat basically gets turned off?
>>750095159Literally every game made after 6th gen has an easy mode.
>>750090573shit had been in early development for 5 - 6 fucking years, Bioware clearly had no idea so why should we?
>>750094742>Ukies bomb the rest of your wildberriez xd storageZiggers
>>750094063Ok i didnt say it was a good execution.>>750094393Dogshit ideas holy shit. Going forward after ME3 is literally impossible. Andromeda was the only logical step forward.
>>750090573Back when TOR came out I remember people jokingly comparing the Revan raids to farming Shepard for his N7 drops, and I firmly believe that's what ME5 (the industry's choice of number which should tell you everything) would've been
>>750095063They used to be good when they focused on the characters and not generic godlike evil villains.
>>750095123There's nothing interesting about the geth. They were primitive machines that got played by the Reapers. The ridiculous glazing they got in 2 and 3 never made any sense considering the greater context.
>>750095159It's not good in most of their games, but it was very good in ME3. That's why there are still people playing its multiplayer to this day.
>>750095345Way better ideas than Andromeda slop.>We HAD to give up and run away from the Milky Way because it’s too hard trying to sort out the mess from 3’s ending!>so here’s a shitty soft reboot that’s a pale imitation of the things you like about Mass Effect
>>750095434Back in the days of Interplay, bioware "games" were considered casual slop for people who lacked the skill for an actual open world rpg like Daggerfall.
>>750094386Mary DeMarle never worked on Invisible War though...
>>750091904/thread
>>750095802You're great at talking about games you never played
>>750095802Wow you're so cool for liking different games!
>>750095903>>750095941>Waaaah you filthy fucking gamers need to treat my visual novel slop like a real game!!!!!This must be a rough day for you, faggot.
>>750095818Mankind Divided did the same thing where it's not clear which ending from HR is canon. None of them ended up mattering.
>>750095998Grow up. Find something better to do with your time.
>>750092581Them going full retard on the Andromeda connections even though it makes no sense given what Andromeda was designed to be (completely removed from and unable to affect or be affected by the events in the Milky Way because of both time and distance involved) just screams "PLZ KILL US EA". Who the fuck was gonna mark out for that? The average Mass Effect turbofan never played Andromeda, let alone any regular person.
>>750096003Invisible War did that first. It seems like this is common for sequels to games with multiple endings.
>>750096058Clicking dialogue trees is not gameplay.
>>750090573Pure unfiltered zogslop most likely.
>>750096193Okay kiddo.
>>750090573girl power slop that was so bad it got the studio canned
>>750090573Canonize the control emding and make shepard the evil space emperor reaper.
>>750095941What can I say. I liked rpgs where I can actually create a character and roleplay instead of being dragged through some godawful narrative.
>>750095579Bioware wanted to be done with ME after 3 and 'Shephard's story' just like Bungie was after Halo 3. Both ended up making spinoffs instead and Bungie then made Destiny, and Bioware made Anthem.Reach/ODST and Andromeda both only exist because publishers wanted to milk the franchise further that's not on the developers.
>>750096286Do you actually have a counter argument?
>>750096349Why don't you make a thread about your favorite games and see how many replies you get?
>>750096437Why argue with an underage troll who's trying too hard?
>>750096148It's because they really wanted to finish out the arc they had set up on MEA, which roughly had to do with the resolution of the Scourge, and that playing into the emotional core of Ryder trying to save his mom, and his dad not being really dead after all but being tied to the Benefactor Conspiracy, and then all of that putting Ryder through an arc of growth where by the second or third chapter, he'd become a highly confident and more serious person and his dad kinda ending up as the villain in a sense, and then also becoming the hero who ends the whole scourge problem.They're trying to skip over little bits of that, and then do the rest of it in tandem with a plot that's reset to the Milky Way, so that fans can have their Liara and their Shepard, and some hints and nods to Tali or Garrus.The game wouldn't actually take place 600 years after ME3. Dunno specifics but I assumed it would be around 10-20 years, and then they wanted to use the Dark Space-Time Dilation as an excuse to say that that voyage Ryder took to Andromeda, which had them "600 years in cryo", because of this phenomenon that nobody knew about, is actually just around 6 years relative, and then it would also explain another detail about how the Reapers actually managed to stay and conserve energy in Dark Space, as well as throw in a nod that all while they're talking about the relationship between Organics and Synthetics regarding Shepard's galaxy, and the "harvest", their larger goals actually did have to do with trying to prevent this Dark Energy problem.They took a few things in 3 back in 2012 that they couldn't really support given the trilogy's total run-time, and pushed it out into "hypothetical future possibilities for story" and one of those were Dark Energy and another one was Illusive Man/Cerberus's ulterior goals. Him wanting to Control the Reapers in 3 isn't just him being "crazy". he got indoctrinated because he lost against the Reapers, but he had a larger thesis.
>>750090573>fem shep Continued military drama about humanity finding it's place in the universe while dealing with a galactic level threat. >guy shep"YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO GET AS MANY CUTE GIRL ALIENS PREGNANT""B-But sir no man can cum that much, let alone have that many orgasms!""You clearly haven't seen humanities finest in action, show em' how it's done Shepard!"
>>750090573It'd have what you'd expect from modern directionless woke Bioware. Main character would be a woman of color, only attracted to asari, storyline would feature a male villain, nonbinary and other gender dynamics would be included, most of the characters would be ugly, and the gameplay would be derivative of their earlier actually good games.
>>750093273You are wrong. The spirit of mass effect is that of the Pioneering Spirit. The deep desire to explore combined with grand ambition. It's not a spirit that cares to tread ground that has already been well-tread, and meander about aimlessly occupying itself with petty conflicts and drama. Go back and play the first game again, it's clearly been too long for you.
>>750093273They needed to retcon ME2 and ME3 out of existence.
>>750095382Played swtor long enough to be a part of a revan centered guild before the expansion.
>>750095345Not sure you know what "literally" means, slop lover.
>>750096820>The deep desire to explore*the unknown
Its was gonna be goyslop the moment I saw the fuckass Andromeda aliens and Geth were back on top of the rumor they speedran the timeline so it connects to Andromeda
>>750096596Who gives a fuck about an arc from a failed spinoff? Also wasn't it Bioware Austin or whatever it was called that's been dead for years? It's not even the same studio. Why are they so obsessed with picking up their slack? Were any of the writers from that era still around anymore?>The game wouldn't actually take place 600 years after ME3. Dunno specifics but I assumed it would be around 10-20 years, and then they wanted to use the Dark Space-Time Dilation as an excuse to say that that voyage Ryder took to Andromeda, which had them "600 years in cryo", because of this phenomenon that nobody knew about, is actually just around 6 years relativeThat sounds mind-numbingly retarded, and also completely unnecessary, other than to have an excuse to include a character from a game few people played and nobody liked.
>>750096820Most people prefer 2's focus on recruiting squadmates and loyalty missions over "exploring" empty maps with copy pasted content in a tank with bad physics.
>>750097007Nothing wrong with the geth. The Destroy ending erasing them all was always stupid.
>>750093273Also I'm getting the impression that you aren't really a fan of sci fi in general. Mass Effect was science fiction first and a drama action series second. That's why they went with exploring the Andromeda galaxy instead of doing what you want them to have done.
>>750097103Yeah, least common denominator has predictably unimaginative and unaspirational tastes. That doesn't surprise anybody.
>>750093273>They should have never made AndromedaSure, go on.>What they should have done is smaller budget games set in the Mass Effect universe where the entire point of the game isn't saving the universe, but smaller scale conflicts and storiesNobody gives a fuck about that. Reddit trannies singing in unison about "what made ME2 great" 15 years after it came out means nothing. Shepard only gets to be Shepard because the stakes are higher than any character can even imagine. Nobody wants to be space janny in not-Star Trek.
>>750097171I refuse to believe Andromeda has real apologists.
Unless ME4 was going to be a scaled back experience where you just live out that space-cop going around the galaxy solving shit without the greater scope threat like REAPERS looming in the background, it was going to be shit.But this was supposed to be a huge "return to form" right? No way they were going to scale things back.
>>750097345Just play No Man's Sky or Starfield if you want your empty open world slop.
>>750097374Bootlickers on FB are telling me Andromeda was perfectly "fine".
>>750090573A story that forces us to be better men.
>>750097374I'm not defending the game itself, just the idea of it and why the team chose to continue in the spirit of the original mass effect instead of tuening away from it.
Funny how le exploration fags never talk about Andromeda's shitty Ubisoft tier open maps.It should be everything they want from a Mass Effect game.
>>750097431That's not the same experience and you know it. It's about the weight of which what you know or suspect impact how you experience the exploration levels, and the context that weight hangs over the game world. It requires good writing to pull off, and it also requires being an avid reader to develop an appreciation for. Otherwise you turn into a mindless drama zombie. Small minds and all that
>>750097153Im not against bringing them back its just that Geth coming back could've easily been a storyline with Pro and Anti Geth sides rather than just lol they're here or having like a Geth party member (not Legion) whos the only survivor or something
>>750097517It just sounds like retarded cope to me. People like Mass Effect for the interesting setting and characters, not driving around in a vehicle.Andromeda throws away everything established by the other games that people liked to make a lame soft reboot.
>>750097567It wasn't a real open world game
Andromeda was like a weird industry plant. I remember when they implemented not-vampires in Stellaris and unlike every other thing in that game which had a clear sci-fi inspiration (ST, B5, SW, 40k, Dune etc.) I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was supposed to resemble mechanically until I by chance looked up what the antagonists in Andromeda were and then it clicked. But who in their right mind would base anything on something from fucking Andromeda, it just doesn't make sense.
>>750097679Ah yes it's high IQ to drive across empty maps to copy pasted buildings to collect loot.
>>750096820You're right. I have no greater desire than to do pointless repetitive quests on planets that are literally all the same in between extended scenes of shitty dialogue.
>>750097737Yes it was, as much as any Ubisoft game is.
>>750097737>real open world games have never been triedLet's face it, nothing short of Bethesda's games is "real open world", not even Witcher. Not when it comes to AAA at least.
>>750097567Andromeda was actually supposed to have procedurally generated maps and worlds like No Man's Sky. They could never get it working and ended up shoving in all the things they wanted across a dozen planets into like 4.
>>750097690Andromeda turned me off so I never bought it, so I can't discuss the specifics of it, but you clearly don't speak for everyone. Most people yes, in the same way McDonalds aims to cater to "most people". Lowest common denominator. It's not a compliment or a positive trait at all in this specific case. You're the crowd EA was going after. Andromeda is the direction (obviously not the execution) the original writers were after. The one bit of credit I can give the Andromeda team is that they appear to have respected the original intentions and tone of the setting, even if they didn't have the talent or skill to pull it off.
>>750090573I wanted Liara to fuck me with her futa penis one last time.
>>750097806>I don't get itmaybe for you it's "high IQ", for people in the 1800's it was called not being retarded.
You have to wonder if they even had a draft of a script for this shit. Scamming EA out of millions while doing nothing is sort of based though.
C-Sec detective game
>>750094393Not to mention lore threads about unactivated relays, plot threads about precursor civilizations besides the protheans, tons of unresolved mysteries in the planet synopsis, largely undeveloped alien races like the volus, elcor, and vorcha, lingering questions about the rachnai war, the potential leviathan issue, the leads the lay for the dark energy plotline, and that's just off the top of my head. I never come to /v/ but loved those games and played the absolute shit out of them. People saying OMGS IT HADS TO BE ANDROMEDA GAIS MY EXPLORATION are so full of crap. There was so much untapped potential in the orginal setting, no shortage of exploration mystery and discovery to be had there just from what they already laid down.
>>750097943>>750098058Whatever pseud. I'm glad you have an autistic obsession with the Mako but Mass Effect would still be a beloved game without it.
>>750097906Wouldn't have improved the game at all.
>>750098207>my fast food slop is the standard everything else should be held towell you got the future you asked for, tourist. Happy?
>>750098080Maybe someone will leak it. A lot of the devs are probably pissed.N7 Day might be interesting to see what the devs say.
>>750098279>food analogy>using the slop buzzwordReal intellectual over here.
>>750094787Ah, you're the ME2 schizo. Shut the fuck up.
>>750098080I hope someone just says fuck it and leaks whatever shit they were doing here or somewhereNo way they spent like just 6 years sitting on their ass
>>750098412That's what you choose to focus on? Did I not successfully communicate what I wanted to say to you? Are you going to spend the rest of the thread trying to tear down the image you have of me instead of trying to engage my points at all?
>>750098651And you are the wokie brokie
>>750097153>>750095482
>>750097103>most people are retarded Yes, and...?
>>750090573Game was gonna be filled with straight faggotry, EA did themselves a favor to avoid being a month long laughing stock like veilguard
>>750097517You do realize only like 2% of the Milky Way is explored by ME3 right.
Remember when Mass Effect was set to be the next big thing with a sequel series, tv show, movies, books, etc... what went wrong?
>>750098698You are an actual sperg kek
>>750090573cant wait for the leaks
>>750090768Plausible. If Shepard never got involved, Saren lets Reapers walk right through their plan. But because Chudshep stepped in, the cycle was broken and the Mass Relay network was destroyed no matter what, severing entire galactic ties. Daughtershep would recognize this and get the hate for it, but would be strong and persevere while singlehandedly rebuilding the Mass Relay network. To prevent a recurrence, all males in the galaxy are genophaged and the Asari are now the galactic queen race to allow propagation. That is the Paragon ending.
>>750098724I'm glad we're not getting a new game, thoughever? You're who wanted them to bring Shepard back, I'm content with the trilogy being left well alone.
>>750099061What if we do get another game?
>>750098897Based Chudda is the one true religion
>>750098961The 2010s expanded universe obsession with turning every into a multimedia universe was never not godawful. Franchises like Assassin's Creed or Mass Effect got like 100 different comics that nobody read or gave a fuck about.
>>7500989613's ending was disappointing then Andromeda was a complete joke.Maybe it could have recovered if it had a good show/movie but no one was willing to invest in that with the series quickly losing goodwill. Video game adaptions usually suck anyway.
>>750090573protheans are alive, krogan civil war, Aria waging war on the council races, something like that
>>750090573Shepard survived and decided he's a woman now, but the new aliens that took over really don't like trans people, so you gotta figure out a way to genocide them and setup a pro-trans universe.
>>750099135Maybe after a decade from a new dev.Or they'll just shelve the ips like EA did to Dead Space and Titanfall. Maybe you'll get a remake made by Indians and A.I. if you're lucky.
>>750099198I still can't belive we got a Twisted Metal adaptation and ME didn't
>>750099135It's at least gonna take longer as the new developer starts from scratch instead of having six years of "early development" under their belts already, not to mention the time taken to actually find said new dev team, sign contracts, etc.Not to mention I'd trust most other developers out there over nu-BioWare. And a new developer would mean more of a chance for a new game to be a soft reboot with no Shepard and no Liara.
>>750090659i don't think you understand how chromosomes work
>>750099198Wasn't there Amazon series in the works? Wonder if it got quietly shelved after this.
>>750099421he has an extra, that makes him the authority
>>750099421>implying anyone on /v/ knows anything about biology
>>750099458It was announced years ago and never entered full production. They had a bunch of rewrites apparently.
>>750099357>Maybe after a decade from a new dev.Much sooner>>750099406It's a Genshin clone with the legacy cast
>>750099421That guy has a scat fetish unironically.
>>750097374Only bootlicking I'll do for it are the cool and actually unique environments, SAM, and the combat. The combat was a real step up. Going biotic my first time was great because of feeling powerful and agile. Still, I disagree with the classless design because that makes balancing ignorable.That said, the "my face is tired" thing is unforgivable.
>mfw I'm driving the Mako
>>750099615I always forget SAM exists. Such a boring voice and no real personality. He's nowhere near EDI.
>>750099590Have it made by a Chinese dev with a bunch of cute alien girls and maybe it could work.
>>750093273The only path forward for Mass Effect was leaving the galaxy because ME3 bolted the door shut on the way out with that stupid ending.
>>750093789>>750093858>>750094517Obvious answer is not to bring him back, but show you the effects of his deeds. The shitty Buzz Aldrin epilogue called him The Shepard, so he reached galactic legend status. Only thing is that'd really benefit from decision imports from the past games, and they couldn't even do that for 3. To avoid turning into shitty tranny sci-fi, it needs some focus on Shepard, eezo, and the Mass Relays. I think the legacy of his deeds is the only way.
>>750099797It's a Savvy Games Group studio, like Scopely.
>>750099909Less sales than Andromeda. Why would EA make this?
>>750099884Wrong. Bioware would just have to write a smaller scale story after ME3 without an evil god/empire/racists as the villain and that's too hard for them.
>>750099730>HeWow okay, bigot.
>>750099948>Savvy Games GroupLooks like a shovelware factory. Weird thing to shill.
>>750090573somehow everyone returned
>>750090573>Mashala Andrew Wilson, why is the story is filled with haram stuff? >And why is that pink-haired director wearing a skirt? Subahanala
>>750091904Lmao
Okay so which studio needs to take over Mass Effect?
>>750099151>comics that nobody read or gave a fuck aboutMy personal favorite was Stargate Universe. Cancel the show and resolve the cliffhanger with a series of comics that... nobody read or gave a fuck about. Purely to self-feed the fandom wiki pages.
>>750100050So progressive. I'm glad they made asari able to choose their pronouns too.
>>750100016>just write mass effect without (thing that made mass effect work(cosmic stakes))lol, lmao even.
>>750100160Haven't played it, but a lot of people liked Baldur's Gate 3 so maybe them? There's apparently a KOTOR 3 in the works by some literally who studio, so maybe them if possible. I don't know to be frank, because I haven't played an RPG the last 10 years that I enjoyed. Before Cyberpunk, I would've said CDPR easily.
>>750100083It's the mobile/gacha gaming arm of the PIF and now sister company to EA, they are already making a Marvel Genshin clone with the art team of Marvel Rivals. Scopely is one of the largest, in terms of actual staff, game dev studios in existence.
Is it possible the Mass Effect IP could be picked up by another studio?
>>750090573Space-trannies
>>750100160Under EA, maybe Respawn could make a decent game or DICE could make Battlefield Mass Effect. They'd probably prefer to just keep making Star Wars games, though. Much less risky.Maybe they could license out the ip to RPG devs like Larian or Owlcat, or those new studios making Exodus and KOTOR 3. EA doesn't usually do that kind of thing with their ips though.
>>750100376Would be a funny humiliation dancing on Bioware's grave like that.
>>750100160Fromsoft unironically.
>>750100381It is theoretically possible that EA could sell it off, but that would be far in to the future if ever.
>>750100381Nah, EA are notorious IP hoarders. Best you'll get is skins and collectibles in other games
>>750100223>we NEED a galaxy ending threat in every game!No. Fuck the Reapers. 2 is the best game for focusing on the characters and a bunch of smaller stories.
>>750090573It was going to be about how gay and lame everything got, if you were in a relationship then that will be about how they moved on and cucked you including liara who is obsessed with you.It will have a scene where Shepard gets fucked in the ass and has to get helped by the most wokest piece of shit character in existence.
>>750090573Uploading a worm to the Extranet that reconfigures all omnitools to begin converting gel to estrogen.
>>750100160Pearl Abyss fuck it
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>>750100574
>>750099421Birds have W and Z chromosomes where the males have a matching pair and the females have the unmatched pair
>>750092917>finds cryotube with Shepard's ident codes and shit all over it>opens it up thinking she'll finally get to binge those episodes of Naruto Sheppudick>it's Tali, Shepard slipped her a mickey and put her in coldsleep to save her from whatever
>>750091740The coat looked cool though.
>>750099884You're brown.
>>750090573Drell cock
>>750100160Give CD Project Red a chance with it.
>>750090573Shepard canonized as a woman despite most gamers overwhelmingly picking maleshep since the first game (You know that shit was coming)Thank Allah the saudis stopped that shit
>>750093273I don’t care about Andromeda because at least they decided to set their retarded shit literally in another galaxy where it couldn’t ruin anything from the trilogy
>>750101894They still manage to sneak in some retarded cameos>Liara>Garrus's father>Zaeed's son
>>750100160None, the story is canonically over. But if we're talking remakes of the trilogy with a chance to fix 3 then Actually I don't fucking know, I don't trust any western dev at this point
>>750090573Who cares?
>>750100160Megive me a 30 person dev team, all males, all Caucasian, and $500 million budget, and I will deliver the best video game of all time
>>750100160let it fucking die Why do you need everything to be a never ending zombie franchise.
kek
>>750092850They were going to be in it. Probably would've handwaved it as them leaving Crucible-proof backups, probably backups of their pre-Reaper upgrade selves. It would've been a gesture of trust towards their Creators, and a chance for them to destroy the Geth for good if they felt like it.
>>750102438Have you seen the burgers' obsession with zombies and vampires? They made movies of both for over half a century, even to this day. That's why.
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>>750100160Larian and DA is obvious but ME is so hard to get down. Eidos Montreal could've worked on one but they're dying, I've seen people say CDPR but I just cant see it maybe if they made a game that only took place in Omega or something then theres Owlcat people mention cause of The Expanse but I dont know anything about them
>uuummmmm the green ending was a really bad idea so uh, maybe uh I dunno -Mac Walters probably
>people still don't get that ME3's ending killed the franchise for good and there is no coming back from that
>>750100160Grasshopper Manufacture.
Button -> Awesome
>>750103479A decent writer could do it but Bioware lost all of them.
>>750103479It's a fucking ending. It was time to stop. It was over
>>750103730Any decent writer wouldn't touch the franchise with a ten foot pole after such catastrophically retarded and self-destructive ending. Not even the best writer in the world could fix it anyway, the very fabric of the setting got destroyed.
>>750103730>A decent writer couldYou really can't. You end the trilogy with a galactic apocalypse. And you can't do a prequel because humanity has only been on the galactic scene for a generation and a half, and they bend over backwards to make shepard the most awesome human ever, and the runner up is Anderson, the guy who was almost a specter until he got fucked over on his first mission.
>>750103918If you're talking about the relays blowing up they already retconned that.I think a post Reaper War game easily could have worked. Just don't bring back the Reapers or Cerberus.
>>750104016>>750104039
>>750104039>they already retconned that.
>>750090573>what was the plot going to be about?modern politics
>>750090573Is the remastere a good way to play the original trilogy?I played the original games on xbox and liked them but they where all in german and the voice acting was shit at timeI could have downloaded the original voice pack but i nevr bothered to do so as a kid and now the servers are down and I can't even get the dlc anymore
>>750104098In the extended cut they're just damaged, they don't blow up.
>>750104221>In the extended cut
>>750104109>orange krogan bad>(((quarians))) go full genocide against the poor geth
>>750104346It's still canon now. Cry about it some more.
>>750104039No, it's fucking everything. The relays, the Reapers, Shepard, the Alliance, the cosmic cycle, the mass effect issue, the horrid attempt at aping Hyperon at the last fucking minute. All the major elements of the games, all the themes of the franchise got raped to death non-stop in the span of just a few minutes. It's one of the most repulsive endings ever.Its like trying to make a sequel to SpongeBob SquarePants after you killed SpongeBob while also revealing that he was a child rapist all along. It's not a fixable situation.
>>750104437I think you exagerrate.
>>750104570The entire setting was built around the Citadel and the Reapers. That's the equivalent to the cosmic horrors in Lovecraft, or the force in Star Wars, or the Ainur in LOTR, these are essential elements of the setting.
>>750100381I hope not. Let it rest, anon.
>>750100587Retard.
>>750103479Indoctrination Theory is what keeps me going.
>>750104972>>750105160The Reapers were always a millstone hanging around the series' neck. There was never going to be a satisfying explanation for them or way to defeat them.The Citadel was just a cool space city. It's a good setting for any kind of story.
>>750103479This but ME2's intro.
>>750104346>ME3 release date: March 6, 2012>Extended Cut release date: June 26, 2012>today's date: October 22, 2026
>>750105284There was absolutely nothing wrong with wrapping up the Reaper plot nor with the idea a sequel could take place a couple decades after the fact in a rebuilding galaxy.
>>750093380>So in Destroy they had a backup site, which they also have in the other versionsI'll leave it to you to understand why being able to survive the crucible firing is a bit of a plot hole regarding the reapers.
Something about pronouns and finding your true gender.
>>750105284t. illiterate retard
>>750104972Mass Effect was envisioned as a trilogy from the get go, not an infinite setting with countless sequels in mind, so yeah it makes sense they tied the Citadel to the Reapers and the like. It was all meant to be in service to the big main plot ME1 builds towards its entire game.
>>750106551>Mass Effect was envisioned as a trilogy from the get goThe main writer quit and went to write for SWTOR, then a bunch of retards took over and rushed the ending after retconing the franchise with ME2. Whatever was planned initially was abandoned very early on. The franchise could have lasted way longer than three games with the Reapers as a distant threat.
>>750106551Drew quit once Bioware was acquired by EA. Kind of says a lot.
>>750106950No he didn't lmao EA acquired them right before ME1's release. Drew left in 2012, came back in 2015 and left again in 2018.
>>750106723>The franchise could have lasted way longer than three gamesYou saying you wanted the same mid-2010s BioWare that brought you Inquisition and Andromeda to write Shepard's adventure? Things didn't magically get better at the studio post-2013, if anything it was the exact opposite.
>>750090573you play as liara and transition to male and then fuck your entire male femboy crew with your fake blue dick
>>750107086They still didn't follow through with Drew's vision for Mass Effect.
>>750106723>The main writer quit and went to write for SWTOR,the main writer was Casey Hudson, full stopIt was his design document, it was his idea. Karpyshyn wanted to write his autistic Star Wars fan fiction, if you want to see what his vision for Mass Effect was go play Exodus next year
>>750100830Yeah but they're just called that for convenience to illustrate how they use sex selection differently. They still have the X genes, they just don't use them for sex selection. Similarly the Platypus has "XY" selection but doesn't use the same genes to do it as other mammals, it in fact uses the same genes Birds use for their "Z". So birds could still theoretically be killed by something that targets "X chromosome" depending upon how you define X, the genes or what the gene is being used for?
>>750107645Drew didn't have a vision for Mass Effect
>>750109512Yeah he did. The dark matter plot was going to be bigger than muh Reapers
>>750090573Liara becomes a human supremacist and realises the council sucks. There, thats your plot.
>>750109898Liara is for insane alien sex, not for plot relevance.
>>750090573Nothing good.
