now that mass effect is cancelled, which space rpg will you be getting and/or hyped for?
Starfield Starborn DLC
>>750091420Both are a wait and see for me, for different reasons. I really want to like osiris, but im not really a fan of the expanse
Just how shit was the new mass effect game that they took a look at the competition in the OP and said "yeah, this shit cant compete with those 2, may as well cancel it"
The next Stellaris DLC.
>>750091420Exodus because it's written by Drew Karpyshyn and the tie in books are supposedly good. Still need to read them though.
>>750091849It wasn't even out of early development despite being announced like six years ago. That's how bad things were
>>750092017Tf were they doing for six years
>>750091420If I'm playing a sci-fi game I want companions like the octopus in the mech suit, not 6 different flavors of boring fucking humans. If its supposed to be a larger than life fictional setting and the only characters the game offers me are people that I could theoretically meet in real life, then I'm not fucking interested.
>>750092017>release a shitty generic announcement for a game you haven't even started development on yet>company shut downs years laterHopefully this is a good omen and a sign that Bethesda is also about to die.
>>750092336Throwing ideas at the wall, rewriting the script multiple times with different writers, making concept art and maybe some models.
>>750092585The Expanse is supposed to be le grounded hard scifi.
>>750092982>the expanse>ring gates>protomolecule>aliens>grounded
>>750093151People always jerk off about the space ship physics and people in space having fucked up bodies for being more realistic.
>>750092982"Hard Sci-fi" and "Low Fantasy" are by far the most pointless and derivative shit ever.
I'm honestly not that interested in Exodus.I like the universe of the Expanse though and am looking forward to Osiris Reborn because of that. I'm not saying I won't try Exodus I just want to know if it's worthwhile first.
>>750091420There's a scifi rpg game with White people coming out? Sign me up.
>>750091420Starfield's next DLC of course, at this point Starfield is the best space game and space rpg ever made, it'll be tough for Exodus or Expanse to do anything to touch it.
>>750092585Yeah, it just looks really boring and derivative to me.
>>750091420I have a feeling that Exodus is lying about how good the RPG element is and Expanse is lying about how good the action element is
>>750093549I know Whites only make up around 9% of the population but they should have a little representation at least.
>>750092585Weird how I never see people seethe about Gundam because of that. Only a problem with Expanse somehow
>>750093693That's because anime always does that shit, so there's no point in even acknowledging it. If something isn't a human in an anime its probably just a human with animal ears glued onto their heads.Anime can't into fantasy races or aliens. Its always just generic human characters that all look the same.
>>750093693No one cares about the humans in Gundam outside of the fan service shit. The only thing people watch Gundam shit for is for the fucking giant robots.
the expanse game is made by russians
>>750093693It helps that Gundam has cool giant mechs.
>>750091420>WotC wokeshit or tie in to show I don't care aboutI pick neither.
Owlcat has literally never made a good game.
despite a lot of ex bioware devs working on Exodus, do you think they saw all the recent woke flops that they will still add woke shit into the game?
>>750094619Probably. They make money either way. They don't care if they make a shitty product so long as they get some money out of them for themselves.
>>750094035You haven't watched any Gundam except for the new moeshit sloppa have you
>>750094356Wrath was good. Kingmaker and RT are whatever, I'll give them a 7 just because there's not a lot of cRPGs
>>750092336Getting every last resource drained to feed Veilguard's development
>>750095065Wrath was shit I'm more forgiving of Kingmaker's jank because it was their first project.They fixed nothing and a lot of what they didn't fix is made ever worse by the encounters/npc/pcs all being level 15. It's like they built a bridge that was buckling under a vw beetle for their first game then dumped the USS Gerald Ford on the same piece of shit bridge for wotr. Fuck them.
>>750091967Theyre pretty good books. Liked the first one more than what I've read of the second but the second isn't bad by any means.
>>750094985>You don't agree with my dogshit take?! Obvious you must be new!!!Kill yourself faggot. Watched that shit over 15 years ago and the only thing I remember was the cool robots. The characters are fucking nothing. They may as well not exist.
One game has a bear squad mate, the other doesnt. The choice is easy
Hopefully the dialogue is great like it is in Mass Effect...
>>750091420Expanse looks less repulsive.
>>750091420never played a ME type game but i watched expanse and im kinda interested in the game
Fellas, last I checked we were in /v/
video games?
>>750091420If I'm playing a space RPG then I want to be surrounded by a bunch of weird fucking aliens with their own weird cultures and histories and technologies, not a bunch of retarded humans. When I played through the ME trilogy I barely even touched the human companions. It's going to have to be Exodus for me, and that meched up squid lady better be romancable goddamnit.
>>750091420Exodus looks more interesting. The Expanse is just gurlboss: the game without Drummer
>>750099604Should probably read the first book or watch the first season of the show to see if it's your kind of thing.
Which ever has the best RPG mechanics.
>>750102826Exodus then
The expanse's setting just seems terribly boring to meLike it has what? Humans in low sci-fi with some lanky cajun fucks thrown in there?
>>750103943The Expanse is like political intrigue with space commies and aliens and the race to develop and use alien technology against each other
>>750091420Both look bad
>>750093570There is an expanse playtest in csrin and the gameplay is ass but it looked like ass in the trailers so I dont know if it counts as a lie
>>750096694>it's been that way since Napoleon. A war of attrition favors them.>since NapoleonWhich one?
>>750091967first thing i have seen about exodus is a mutt protagonist. second thing i have seen it is published by trannies of the coast. it's going to bomb no matter how good the story is.
>>750095870they are holding the territory they have conquered just fine.
>>750098909your kike leader just announced he is willing to give up 25% of his territoty for peace. jews lost
>>750091967>and the tie in books are supposedly goodThe sci-fi concepts are interesting but the characters are some of the most annoying and whiny I've ever forced myself to put up with
>>750091420>niggers confirmed you cant fuck the octopusthats fucked up tee bee aych
are the expanse books good?
>>750091420I know nothing about Exodus and I'm definitely not a a fan of the Expanse. Wish they made up their unique sci-fi universe.Wait and see, I guess
>>750092982There is nothing grounded or hard sci-fi in Expanse. I would say it's no different from Star Wars, except with all the things that make Star Wars fun likeable and interesting, and equally as realistic, it Star Wars wasn't lame shit since the OT ended, but you get the point.
>>750093643it's 99% among the people able to leave Earth. (asians are white enough)
>>750094201>the expanse game is made by russiansOwlcat are liberal Russians based in Cyprus, there's no way they don't secretly hate Putin considering the shit they write
>>750112165>There is nothing grounded or hard sci-fi in Expanse.I like how they do the "high gravity juice" concept but its literally just a pipe attached to someones neck, instead of literally completely replacing their blood and filling their lungs as would be required to survive the massive acceleration they put themselves under on the Expanse all the time, and retards still consider this cool and "hard" scifi
>>750112030>Wish they made up their unique sci-fi universe.that's Exodus
>>750112165what a retard
>>750091420Whichever has blue aliens to romance.
>>750109856I'm 90% done with book 1 and it's about as good as the show. Theres some interesting differences, like alot of early Season 1 was made up for the show, like the Donnager crew being more aggressive than in the book. I wish more books were written by multiple people because you can tell it just feels a little more realistic? Characters and plot are really well done, but alot of the actual science parts are sorta handwaved, like distances / travel time, medical tech, etc. It's just a cool setting, perfect after I just finished the Neuromancer trilogy.
>>750112786I should say, some of season 1 was made up for the show. Not alot.
>>750091420I just watched the gameplay of the Expanse it looked a bit janky compared to Exodus but I don't dig the art style of Exodus at all.It hurts to be a sci fi action fan
>>750112165>star wars>fun and likeableboomers everyone
>>750112786>>750112829made the mistake of watching the show before reading the books, been putting off reading the books for so long but keep feeling like i fucked myself for watching the show first
>>750113042I thought so too for a while, then I got hooked.Thing is after watching the show, you don't have to imagine the spaces too hard, you can literally speak in the actors voices in your head as you read and put them on the set of whatever place. I just imagine Naomi and Miller as giga tall and lanky, but otherwise its fun to read with scenes of the show in your mind.I have to read a shitload but eventually I'll get to the parts of the show they didn't film which is worth it
>>750100235you cant fuck the octopus
>>750112587Was talking about Expanse. As I said, I know nothing about Exodus
>>750112626What an emotional response from a self appointed lover of hard sci fi
Promotional material for both these games have a lot of blue in them, they're really leaning into competing with each other huh, whos releasing first?
>>750092982The physics are mostly accurate, but most of the technology is handwavium.For All Mankind is the closest to grounded hard scifi in recent years, and even that handwaves a lot of things for plot convenience.
>>750112626As I said, it was at one time, an that was generations ago.
>>750113653For All Mankind is also written by retards
>>750113413Silence manchild
>>750113653>The physics are mostly accurate,Laugh in high speed fast turns while shooting with miniguns in close combat
>>750113653SENPAI is such hamfisted woke tripe even more so than The Expanse, could not get past the second season of this shit but finished The Expanse fine
>>750113738>Furiously typed the slop defender
>>750091420I played the demo for Osiris Reborn, and it was trash. That leaves Exodus, but I'm not expecting much.
Neither. They both look terrible. I'll just replay the Mass Effect trilogy instead.
>>750113987>FuriouslyProjecting much?>slop defender>said Star Wars fag
>>750091420Mass Effect was Bioware's worst series, something made by former ME devs isn't going to be any better.
>>750091420just bring back the expanse show
>Star>Citizenof course.
>>750114070I didn't defend SW tho, unless you think saying the very originals were fun and likable and belong to 40 years ago counts ad defending.Gonna cry?
>>750114192Will they ever? They're just waiting on someone to adapt the last 3 books or something
>>750114001what was wrong with the demo, i haven't played it, is it full on jank?
>>750115410Completely devoid of soul
>>750091420I have no interest in ExodusMy only interest in The Expanse comes from being an Owlcat fan, but I play Owlcat games because they are crpgs and the expanse is not a crpg. So its a wait and see scenario. Maybe one day I will try it.
>>750114441is that gane even finished
>>750115092probably not but we can always cope and hope for it to return some day
>blonde woman>female octopuswhich way, black man?
>>750118202bezos gave us the last 3 seasons, its time for musk to fund and give us the last 3 book adaptations
>>750118230I'm going to fuck that octopussy so hard....
>>750091420Interested in both, but without any extravagant expectations.The girls in the Expanse game look nice, which is a bonus. Hopefully the Exodus game also has some nice romance options and no I'm not counting the octopus.My only gripe at the moment -apart from how generally insufferable the black belter woman way- is how the Expanse show went to complete and absolute shit in a single episode after the capture of the main antagonist halfway around season 3. It dropped the proverbial ball so ridiculously hard that I can still barely believe it.Thus I have concerns about the quality of the game and its writing.
>exodus published by wizards of the coast
>>750091420I hope there is a lot of gay sex, trans inclusion, and anti-white propaganda.
>>750119484>knotted since 2014This can't be real.
>>750119923owo
>>750112165>it's like Star Wars without the Jedi, Sith, droids, or aliensSo it's boring shit.
>>750117347The single player campaign is supposedly coming out next year. They hired a lot of real actors for it.
>>750091420Owlcat has never made a good game.Archetype has never made a game.You'd have to be retarded to get hyped for either of these.
>>750113653These LED headlamps are historically inaccurate.
>>750120554>Archetype has never made a game.Of course not, Exodus is their first game.It's written by Drew Karpyshyn who did Mass Effect 1 and 2 so it will probably be decent.
>>750115410Combat is moderately interesting, and everything looks very nice and works well.But the demo is extremely short and everyone acts kind of strange. It's fully voiced, but the characters seem far too relaxed about the situation they're in (fleeing for their lives in a stolen spaceship)It feels like attractive eurojank
>>750120612Right, so he's already burnt all his good ideas for a sci-fi universe on Mass Effect. Exodus will be scraps.
>>750120715Why so pessimistic?
>>750093552Great joke, had me rolling
>>750098675>Only volunteers fight in UkraineYes, after 6 men in a van ambushtackle them on the street and 'volunteer' them for frontline dronebait duty
What if Mass Effect IP got sold to Owlcat?
>>750121149Can't be any worse than Andromeda.
These games are probably why ME is cancelled. It was going to suck.
>>750120791Why would you not be pessimistic about sci-fi wrpgs? It's a cursed subgenre.
Hey if studio starting to adapt scifi novel then maybe someone should try to adapt the Barsoon series.
>>750121287I just follow the talented writers/directors that haven't let me down yet.
>>750121317Too based for modern gamers.
>>750121391You weren't let down by TORtanic or Anthem?
>>750118230The octopus has a mecha so I think I will play her game first while I wait for Owlcat's bugs to be fixed
>>750121689Never played either.
>>750121149>Asari dolly who has with 20 pages of dialogue to tell you about the dozens of men in each species she's fucked over her eight hundred year lifespanI think Owlcat's got what it takes to handle a sequel
>>750121943you don't think owlcat is brave enough to make asari being futa canon?
>>750122001I do not think they are depraved enough to try putting that particular fetish into their product
>>750091967Novels should be an add on to the games, not the introduction as they present it now. If the game's good I might consider buying a book.
>>750091967Are the books necessary to understand the game's story?>>750108061claude, turn the main character Norwegian and make the octopus blush when she speaks to him
>>750122392Probably not necessary but they help establish the universe and will probably be referenced a lot.
>>750112786It's not made up, they just jumbled up the first 2 books to make the first season more interesting. Book 1 is pretty dry by itself.
Both of these look shit any time they show extended gameplay and the writing is cringe inducing along with the sub par voice acting.
>>750091420i would like to be interested, but i am reticent knowing that the expanse author is a woketard and the series wasn't very good
>>750091967Also Peter F. Hamilton. The Expanse is complete trash compared to his books.
Forgot about Owlturd's usual MO, how silly of me. I'll set a reminder to check it out in 3 years when they are done with Season Pass 7 and fixed all of 2 bugs out of 700 present on release.
>>750091420Owlcat has yes to miss so Im definitely on the lookout for the Expanse despite not really liking the show. The cast looks great ad always, I just hope they manage to nail the gameplay but even if its a carbon copy of ME its bound to be at least a decent game overall.
People who played the beta for expanse said its shit
>>750091420Exodus looks like a generic 2010s game. Expanse will probably be better because of the setting and Owlcat has a good track record lately.
>>750122821https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5N2peqsia0They put some gameplay out. I'm skeptical
>>750120336Yeah. Fantasy in space was a fun experiment at some point, but that stuff cannibalizing all sci fi has been insufferable shit. Same for the answer to it, le grey drama in space featuring morally grey insufferable people
can i fuck the asian twink in the expanse
>>750121437yep
>>750122821when has owlcat ever hit?
>>750121943this doesn't happen, and Bioware already made Samara anyway who was explicitly an old hag matron who used to be a wild slut before she became a justiciar
>>750123401owlcat has never made a good game sorry
WHY CANT YOU FUCK THE OCTOPUS
is octopussy that good
>>750091849The company had already been hollowed out and picked clean for a while before this decision was made public.
>>750109856yes, they are ok, 7/10 easily for first three books, rest is worse, last one barely worth reading, only because its finale as for show, first three seasons are top tier, rest is not worth watchingas people said it is "realistic" scifi based on what you can with some probability expect to happen in hundred years with only supernatural things being alien techs
>>750129125>"realistic" scifi based on what you can with some probability expect to happen in hundred yearsIn hundred of years no technology will violate physics. Expanse doesn't look like it has cartoon physics only to people who has elementary school understanding of physics and reality in general.It's space fantasy but boring on purpose
>>750129125>"realistic" scifi based on what you can with some probability expect to happen in hundred yearsrealism is nothing happening because we will never solve the (((problems))) we face as a species and leave Earth to seriously start moving into the rest of the solar system
>>750094359>>750095870>>750096452>>750096694>economy fucked,>rubble is worth shit,>massive muslim immigration into russia to fix their already fucked demographics that were shit after stalins purges/fall of the soviet union/the impoverished 90's destroying entire russian generations and are made even shittier by the special olympic offensiv obliterating the latest crop of promising young russiansJust a reminder how much of a dwarven army ziggers really are:Smoothbore 55 mm is the highest caliber of ammo round Russia can produce without running out of its iron supplies next month.Their arma-T tank has shrunk two sizes and is now smaller than a 1960s American APC. Russian drones are mostly cardboard model planes with a shitty proximity fuse(not even a full hand grenade just the igniter) strapped to it that cant penetrate armor. Russia has managed to kill not even a single Ukrainian tank for over a year, Russian tyotkino in Russia is still under Ukrainian occupation.Putin owns less than 25% of Ukraine at the cost of a million dead Russian mobiks and wants peace talks ASAP.
>>750130482as I said only supernatural techs are alien, everything else is well within boundaries of "possible" in few centuries, whether it is implants, high g juices or super efficient drivesbooks would be ok with just earth-mars conflict and political intrigue on its own btw, alien tech just adds a spice to that for first three books >>750130949>wesure
>>750091420>No sentient friendly aliens in eitherWhy is it so fucking hard to put ayylmaos in your space game?
>>750091420>protomolecule body horrorfine>protomolecule super soldiersdumb but okay>random other builder stuffokay stop>dark godsand you lost me, enjoy your fantasy faggotry
>>750130998meanwhile russia produces more artillery ammo in month than whole nato combined in yearalso nafoid talking about mass muslim immigration while westoid cities are burning right now because of diversity youth lol
>>750109856They go up and down like every second book
>>750100368Speen da dram
>>750131563Nothing to burn in Moscow if its Dar es Salaam already lol.Russia will be a musulmani caliphate before this century is over.
>>750113987Scifidore said calmly*
>hear praise on how realistic the show is>its always vague praise >something about I/P or le coloniser v native>start watching the show >first 3 seasons are good buts it has cartoony goofy dialogue and character interaction>dropped the ball with mars later on>this gets infinitely worse when amazon picked up the showi see the appeal to the series but it feels like an animated show being translated to an irl one, idk whats the point in the "realism" since imo i doesn't fit nor bring anything to the setting.
>>750113338
>>750091420The Expanse has the most boring scifi setting i've ever seen.
Both looks boring
>>750132672The first few seasons is literally Mass Effect
>>750131418exodus has what are basacly aliens ones even a companion but he looks really stupid his name is emry
why y'all want to fuck the octopus
Both will be woke shite
>>750091420Was and will be getting both regardless. But I'm more interested in Dark Heresy and the fourth Rogue Trader DLC.
>>750133470Yeah I think the main love interests are "Halle Berry with a Mech" and the blind scientist girl.
Why did they put new trailer out right now as Mass effect was kill? https://youtu.be/xHMraA-55xA
>>750091420>being an octopus vs being in a shitty assfuck tv shownone
>>750138727cant tell if he looks better on not
>>750138727Can you customize the MC? He looks too mutted.
>>750138943Nope
>>750138943there used to be a character creator for Exodus and for the longest time they kept telling everyone that they had it but it was only recently they changed their mind and stuck with these two mystery meat mc
>>750140162I kind of like the idea of not having a CC. If there were a character creator they'd get pressured to waste time implementing every possible pronoun, surgery scar, body shape, etc since they're the Bioware successor and the vocally mentally ill will fixate on their game now that ME is dead.
>>750138873He looks significantly younger and more half-asian.
>>750138943Just some minor stuff like tweaking his hairstyle iirc.
>>750091967>the books are good>haven't read them though
>>750120570That episode is set in 1983, and it's an alternate history series with part of the premise being that their technology has developed at a slightly faster pace as a result of the space race continuing beyond the 1970s.Of course, it's also on a TV series budget and schedule, so naturally a lot of small details get overlooked or ignored for plot convenience.
>>750091420both don't look great 2bh
>>750092982No, the authors themselves admit that it's not.
>>750091967the books are merely ok, and Archimedes Engine is far better than Helium Sea
>>750093151The series didnt start like a space opera, it was more like a scif-fi noir detective series
>>750137467because baldurs gate 3 did it
>>750091420Like all things Expanse, the game will be a plodding C-grade turd.
>>750091420Why wouldn't I just get both
>>750120460This shits been in development so long they hired Gary Oldman from 2015
>>750120634>Combat is moderately interestingThe combat was garbage. Masses of mindless enemies who don't value their own lives or health and feel no pain, weak feeling and sounding weapons