>New California nuked>New Vegas raped>Colorado is nextCan Obsidian even save this? How are you feeling about the next game?
make the tv non canon
>>750103797That is too logical for Todd
I drove through much of Idaho about a week ago. They should unironically set it there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arco,_Idaho
>>750104063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYEQ0TkyMEA
>>750104063its too baren of a location canada with vancover and seatle would be a better choice just don't have the nu-1950's reddit bethesda faggotry
>>750103661>Can Obsidian even save this?Just make Old World Blues canon.>How are you feeling about the next game?Doesn't matter. will just play Old World Blues and Ignore New canon.
>>750104063>Butte Countyhaha
>>750104348I originally wrote in the post that most of the communities and settlements would need to be created post-apocalypse for the setting to work so unlike NV and more like 3.Maybe they can just do a complete PNW setting but The Frontier permanently ruined that idea.
>>750103797they really should just do this, microsoft might be retarded but if they're going to even attempt to make people care about the series again they're gonna have to let obsidian wipe the fucking slate off of the show's bullshithonestly I can't even think of any contributions to the lore any bethesda games had that weren't the dumbest shit you've ever read, should probably just do a soft reboot and write all the todd nonsense out of existence. I don't think the brotherhood having a splintered faction barely 20 years after the bombs fell or a sect of ultra-high tech hermits that turn people into robots for no reason, or aliens being completely real and potentially causing the fucking bombs to fall is something the series is gonna fucking suffer without
>>750103661Obshittian couldn't even save itself.
>>750103661If they set it in the West Coast again it will be extremely lame. You shouldn't have any hope in nu-Obsidian. They're as bad as Bethshitta.
>>750104534it would be sick for a spliter civil war between the east and west coast brotherhood of steel but im so fucking sick of them and SUPERMUTANTS being in every one forced by bethesda
>>750103661>They're going to make new vegas for straight menOh my science, no!
>>750104396Old World Blues is canon. It's an official DLC for New Vegas.
>>750104657New Vegas is for straight men toddfaggot >toddanon seethes as he pulls up his folder of trannies he jerks off too
>>750103797Based Todd the Godd canonized the most deviant mod on LL, so no, we won’t be doing that.
>>750104691look the tranny pornstars I inexplictably follow on twitter played the game once so the wild west cowboy game is total trannybait while the quirk chungus junk collection sims are only for real macho men chads that like to built little dollyhouses
>>750104491yeah but the frontier isn't canon they can take the good ideas from it but it should be about entirely new factions besides the NCR and Legion
>>750104534You are genuinely delusional: the Amazon show brought Fallout to a wider audience than ever before and is going to be the main reason most people give the next Fallout game a chance at all. You not liking it and it not being popular are two distinct things
>>750104404>Butte Country>I'd a hoAmeriburgers are so silly
>>750104752Take your pills
>>750103661>Can Obsidian even save this?Before the merger, I would've hesitantly said yes. After? No fucking way Todd will let them ignore or overwrite the retarded show lore rape.>How are you feeling about the next game?The series ended with Lonesome Road in 2011.
>>750104770It's genuinely halo tier dogshit if you actually care about the interesting stories of the interplay/obsidion games. BUHHH IT HAS BETHEDA 1950S AND NUKACOLA AND 1950S MUSIC AND ITS WRITTEN AS SOMETHING LE QUIRKY AND NOT SERIOUS. Just because it brought more retarded goycattle doesn't change my stance reddit faggot
>>750104770due to these massive price hikes we're leading to videogames being a whale economy with products bought only by enthusiasts so yes they're gonna need to drop the mass appeal garbage and make games for people who actually play them and don't put them on as background noise while they scroll social media on their phones.are they going to actually do that? fuck no, they'll sooner kill themselves then jump ship to another industry like bobby nodick already did. but its what they should do since the cattle are retarded but not "drop a grand and a half on a console then nearly a hundred dollars on games" retarded
I think something around the eastern border of the Legion could be interesting. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas. Or you could have it on the southern border between Mexico and Arizona. It would be interesting to see how the How the legion copes with people who speak bastardized Latin.
I think OW2 was fucking great. Awoved was fucking dogshit and unfortunately fucking destroyed their reputation. Hopefully their A team gets to work on this
>>750105381i wish they showed a more stable side of the legion you with women actually doing stuff like roman wives would instead of being slaves and the legion being gay faggots
>>750105502Woah there, let's ship at least one game first. It's been a while since Vegas. Then maybe in the sequel we can start exploring more complex topics like uhh believe women
I had a thought of this and I know it sounds feminist and safe horny BUT HEAR ME OUT, A all female tribe of bikers from vault 69 called the Hyenas that are as big as the khans but act as the female ceasers legion. If you're a guy in the story you get kidnapped by them. it plays out like the futurama amazonian episode where you can be sexist to them the whole time as they're trying to use you as a sex slave. And if you don't like them you can wipe them out.
The TV show is a poison pill that will kill the franchise as a whole if it is not decanonized. Genuinely. It may kill the franchise even if it were stricken from canon because it is so high profile and has brought so many retards in. The shadow it casts over the entire IP is enormous.
>>750103661The TV show was going to be set in Colorado before the exec said it would be better to be in LA. It was filmed in NY anyway.
>>750105652Prime material for a non commercial product
>>750105652The show's already ahead of you, champ
>>750103797It is non-canon, anon, doesn't matter if that ginger homunculus says otherwise.
>>750103661Depends what you mean by "save". The only good project lead at Obsidian is Sawyer. Say what you will about him, he's extremely efficient at making games and using every inch of the budget they give him. PoE 1 and 2 had budgets of 4-5 million, and they're very impressive for what they had to work with in terms of budget. Fallout New Vegas, despite being a literal asset flip and using an engine Bethesda had made, had an insane amount of content and quests for 18 months of development. Sawyer will make a good game with tons of content in a relatively small amount of time and budget, that's not the issue. The issue is what he has to work with regarding the lore and story. I highly doubt Todd and Emil will be micromanaging him and his team. Don't get me wrong, they would if they had the time, but ES6 is gonna take all their attention because it will literally kill Bethesda if it flops. But they will most likely send Sawyer a lists of things he can't do anything with and a things he has to include for branding/marketing. And to be honest, Sawyer has said before he really doesn't care that much about established Fallout lore and has no problem with the show or with retcons, as long as he gets to tell an "interesting story". So he won't fight back against Todd or Emil shitting all over canon, I don't think he cares enough to. However, if Tim Cain is heavily involved, I can see him pushing back on the show's influence, since he says he disliked a lot about the portrayal of the NCR and the BoS in the show, and the emphasis on critiquing capitalism rather than critiquing human nature overall.
>>750105709>look at coastline of African country you're planning to film in>wow, you know what I can really see in this beautiful place by the sea?>that's right, it's Los Angeles, California>let's rewrite our script to set the show there
>>750105845ok but my idea of female mad max biker raiders is better and hotter
>>750104534>brotherhood having a splintered faction barely 20 years after the bombs fellthey lasted that long without splintering? I don't expect any cult to stay unified after 5 let alone 20buddhism and abrahamic faith are the exception
>>750105981You know what would be funny? If someone from Obsidian replaces Todd and takes control of Bethesda.At least they have better tools and a comfortable budget now, maybe one day they will work on TES.
>>750106894If someone like Feargus replaces Todd someday the results would be utterly disastrous. Todd is a liar, but at least he has a vision for games and puts all his effort towards getting a specific feeling or gameplay loop. Feargus literally just cares about money and doing things as cheaply and with the least amount of effort. I can't believe he didn't get fired about Obsidian joined Bethesda, it was literally one of the biggest positives that could have come out of it.
>>750103661I can't wait for Fallout 5's rumored New Orleans setting so that black people can educate me about how bad slavery is and how it's my fault.
>>750108171ok but i can kill them
>>750108234If it's bethesdas they'll be essential, if it's by obsidian tho probably yes
>>750104404Butte County is in California you fucking mong. That is unless Idahoans stole the name because they know nothing outside of growing potatoes and wanting to annex Oregon.
>>750103797>>750103661qrd on the TV lore
>>750108351star wars sequels but nufallout bethesda pandering for redditors
>>750108234They'll probably give you a serious XP penalty like in Starfield if you do so.>>750108281>if it's by obsidian tho probably yesThey have become just as bad, if not worse, than Bethesda.
>>750103661If it's not Detroit then Asha needs to fire them all.
>>750108292lemme help you in a way even you might understand
>>750108446>DetroitGood choice
>>750108508Ah, so they did steal it. Potatoniggers have no class.
>>750103797They're just gonna set it before NCR gets nuked and Microsoft will insist that there's some lore from the show thrown in, like the Enclave talking about cold fusion or pre-war posters of Cooper Howard
>>750108508>arrows but no circleOkay, I see WHERE you WANT me to look in general but what are you actually trying to fucking say???
>>750108351>BoS are now comically evil now, just believe in executing anyone who stands in their way and basically act like the Enclave, and the west coast chapters are basically falling apart, with the east coast BoS being the new leaders of the order>NCR got nuked and is no longer a major player. Also were portrayed as a morally good and pure faction before getting nuked, ignoring that they were imperialistic and corrupt as of New Vegas.>Vault tech is heavily implied to have dropped the bombs because "muh profit margins", because apparently ending the world is great for business, also China dropping the bombs first has been retconned, it's ambiguous now>Legion dissolves soon after New Vegas, Caesar died, Lanius either died or left, the Legion devolved into civil war and broke up into smaller tribes again>Mr House made a backup of his memory into the Lucky 38 and is still alive as a result>New Vegas is no longer a prospering city, but a derelict shithole full of mutants, deathclaws, raiders and barely any survivors, also the kings all died or turned to feral ghouls>latest season ends with the Legion electing a new Caesar played by the Home Alone kid marching towards Vegas and some of the remnants of the NCR rangers joining forces with the main characters to protect New Vegas from the impending Legion invasionThat's about it, tons of other details that deviate from the established lore of the older games, but they're not as important as the way the factions are portrayed.
>>750109327I hate bethesda lore so much literal elementary school baby writing took over
>>750109327To add to this, there's a Brotherhood chapter that is full of incels and chuds, they don't allow women to become knights or paladins, much less Elders, and don't even allow them to speak. They're the most incompetent and retarded faction ever shown in a Fallout game, also have a slight southern accent and are all white (shocker). Meanwhile the most competent chapter is led by a fat asian woman who thinks the Codex is "open to interpretation" and everyone else are "religious fools". She also kills the Elder of the chud Brotherhood Chapter by stabbing him in the mouth and cutting out his tongue after he makes some misogynistic remarks towards her, and a character calls her "badass" right after. This is the future of Fallout.
>>750109768Every character has to be quirky or a moron
>>750109768billions of theater kids must die or lose their jobs
>>750109327The Vault Tec shit oh lord. Months free of this stupid, retarded show I forgot how much I HATE IT. And the Fallout "fans" are trying to cope in any way possible. Shit, I hope Tim Cain makes the next game TOLERABLE, I'm not even asking for something good at this point we are fucked.
The best case scenario is for Todd and Emil to die in a plane crash, and for Avellone to come back and become the lead writer of Fallout, retconning the show immediately. I would take more "BEAR BULL BEAR BULL" higher than thou writing over the garbage that Bethesda has done these past few years.
>>750103797wont happen they re still under bethesda writing allowance leash
>>750108351Well…>three in one vault in the middle of venice beach filled with pre-war retards and vault tec staff>shady sands is now where the boneyard is/was>it gets nuked before the events of NV>all of california is a untamed wasteland and every settlement is a scrap shanty town >brotherhood are just generic retards who are more focused on fucking around than gathering pre-war tec (the list of fuck ups with them is so long so I’ll just say they use a mint condition pre war car for target practice)>house is a belligerent retard who was planning to use mind control chips and was the bitch of vault tec>legion has spent the last 20 years playing 2fort ctf with caesar’s corpse>which is revealed to have a note saying that he wants the legion to die after him contradicting his actions>lanius, vulpes, and every other high ranking legion member is gone in favor of two random retards larping as caesar >macaulay culkin is being set up as the new caesar>the kings we’re ghoulified>cryovaults are everywhere>vault tec are heavily implied to have dropped the nukes>the enclave are back again>the khans took over novac >the strip is fucked
>>750112057Tim is a huge cocksucker for the show as are pretty much every dev that is still working for Microsoft.
>>750108517>Robertcop power armor
>>750109327>>750112919what the fuck did i just readwho the fuck wanted this and why, this just seems like someone really hated fallout so they decided to ruin everything they possibly can
>>750114556>who the fuck wanted this and whyRealistically no fans wanted this, the people that claim to like it either have never played a Fallout or have but have that consumerist mind virus where they must defend brands and companies no matter what. The only people this benefits is Bethesda since now they can say the west coast is just as shitty as the east.
>>750114556todd howard also todd howard was responsible of the shitty ncr ranger power armor idea
>>750109768But BoS has that they them butch character.
>>750115265and a nigga steal her job
>>750105013You are correct but Pajeeta doesn't care about that she will just look at the show numbers and tell them to make the game like the show
>>750108508>Butte>County>IdahoI don't understand how these relate to each other. Is this some kind of activation code for a slapper cell?
