This TERRORIST is INSIDE your INTERNET RIGHT NOW!!!11!1!1!1!!! IF YOU SEE HIM FIRST CALL HIM A SELF-KEKING FAGGOT THEN TURN OFF YOUR NOKIA!!!
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Who the fuck developed the Z.O.E. project? It was belka? We see those around in AC2, and they resurface in AC7 without being mentiones as their name. We also have the same thing in 8 with the IA on the X-40, and also the submarine. Is it all still Z.O.E.? is it belka behind it again?
She's hot!
>>750107085>the crew died from hyperthermiaGuh... imagine she stuffs you in her tits and you die in there...
It's hot.
I did it
>>750107669Finally nigger. Took you long enough.
>>750106132>THEN TURN OFF YOUR NOKIA!!!What's a Nokia?
>>750107063Yes, Grunder was part of a major belkan conspiracy. As far as we know ZOE was destroyed permanently by trigger. However the advanced morgan designs still exist and are obviously still being worked on.
>>750107063The Z.O.E. AIs were made by the South Belka Munitions Factory, also known as Gründer Industries. The Usean rebels used them in AC2 and Phoenix shot them down. Gründer kept refining them in secret until their redeployment in AC7, and Trigger pretty much destroyed the whole Z.O.E. project. Its only possible legacy might be Nemo, but that's just fan speculation. It has nothing to do with the X-40 or the submarine, the latter especially is a separate project by Enso (which GR later acquired) called "Darkness of Enigma", the same one that created the X-49 Night Raven.
>>750108151>the former especially*And on that note, I don't think the UAVs in AC8 were Z.O.E.s either, they're nowhere near as impressive as the ones in 7.
nokia aint japanese that aint your phone
>>750107669
>>750108151>Trigger pretty much destroyed the whole Z.O.E. project.Yeah, but what bothers me, is that the Z.O.E. never get mentioned, there is no one who ever even say the name or aknowledge it, is just a 3 letters painted on some plane. It feels weird for a thing ad old as AC2. PA clearly thought about it, but why don't expand on it?
>>7501092187 went through development hell and the final game is a mishmash of multiple different scripts.
>>750109417Yeah that too is kinda weird. I mean, every AC game feels like they wanted to do more, but they couldn't, bur overall, the games where pretty tight. Then 7 went into thi development hell, the story is a mess, like..why all this? They made a very good thing with 8
>>750108151>Darkness of Enigmahttps://youtu.be/t5y4nQ5Y1V8Ernes Extreme Deep Invader is free in its iono space, goodbye earth, strangereal electrosphere!
>>750109218The full name only gets dropped in text, yeah
>>750107841zoomers really don't know about the Belkan brickphone era huhit was a handheld impact weapon that could also play snake and occasionally make calls if the satellite warheads weren't jamming the entire continent
>>750108151>ADF-11F Raven>X-40 Nightmare>X-49 Night RavenKino...
>>750112000Checked and Kino'd...
>>750112000>Trips of 0Nice
>Kotobukiya is planning to restart production of the CFA-44 and ADF-01 FALKEN 1/144 plastic modelsAny builders here?
Has anyone here played the Delta Strike games? How are they? See near nothing about them online besides a video about the final game in the series.
>>750114641Oh shit post builds
>>750106132>Yohko? During a sublimation experiment on Dision?
Some of the livestream messages in mission 30 are genuinely funny. Picrel is like a turk announcing himself for some reason.
>>750115243>Belkan Supremacist>he's from LeasathIt's just like irl...
>>750114641>falkenWHEN
>>750115317Aurelia isn't much better. There's several 'Y Aurelia en el sur' messages in there. They just can't help themselves.
>>750114926I'm making a Steel Haze AC right now for my friend and this might just be my first plane model
>>750115427>June 2027Fuck Nippon this why China is taking over
I hope Dision is an actual terrorist outside of simulation so Simon wouldn't just be "lol evil belkan scientist" and more of unhinged guy that doesn't mind Nemo actually do good to other pilots as long as he delete Dision. Like, dude let Nemo fight rogue Geopelia even after Dision is defeated and there's no benefit of letting Nemo defending General Resources after his main objective is complete.
>>750114796Airforce Delta Strike seems fun enough, some of the weapons and terrains are absurd in a good way, but the sheer amount of radio chatter gives me a headacheI can handle AC games just fine in that regard, but if you ever thought "man this is a little much, shut up" while playing 8 or something I can't imagine what it'd be like to play that for long periodsAt least the girls are cute, shame about the lack of pornIt's something I'll get back to after I completely run out of Ace Combat, I think
Seriously though I finished AC3 yesterday and it was really fucking interestingI really like how they deal with the idea of playing out a simulation, it didn't make the playthroughs retrospectively "useless", it just drove the nail that Nemo being let out into the world can't end wellIt's also pretty crazy to think that 2 years from the end of AC8, Dision gets blowed up, and 3 years from that, Simon could already be working on his simulation I'm really excited by the little details PA has been sprinkling everywhere which validate AC3's setting too, like like Simon and Yohko working on the AI project in AC7 But I'm also thinking that the simulation of 2040, with AEON generators in Expo City, the Megafloat as we see it in game, and the Geofront, aren't necessarily how these places and project will look in actual 2040 (they're more likely to still be mainly projects by that point, half-finished or half-started)
>>750109218It's not really in the game but it's in the official story published by along with the game, weird shit, but it's mainly just because AC7's whole story is weird, and they probably couldn't spare more cutscenes delving into that side of the narrative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t47XvzN0W5gSoundtrack is pretty sick too
>>750115026>whole world will go to shit 'cause this mfer couldn't tap
>>750114796Air force delta strike is amazing IMO, got way more planes than Ace Combat will ever have (including VTOLs that actually work) and some really bonkers missions.
>>750116415>like Simon and Yohko working on the AI project in AC7Wait. When that happens?
>>750117631training drone AI with mikhail's flight data.
>>750106132Should I finish 7 and then go to 8? And when's the Zero standalone gonna come to my library?
>>750107063It's a Belkan project to increase the number of pilots they had because Cipher and the war of '95 killed so many.
>>750117732Sure
>>750117631I think that's them right here ; the wiki also mentions "From an unknown point in time up until 2023, Simon and Yoko Martha Inoue worked for the Erusean Air and Space Administration as Schroeder's assistants. They were involved with Zone of Endless to some extent.[3]"here's a link to the book btwhttps://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1NUrL1sqUJc-B0fI99blE29o4Xl7Jb35m
>>750117707>>750117737Yeah i know, but where does it say that is Simon and Yohko working on them in AC7?
>>750117631Dr. Schroeder refers to 'Massa' which is a bad localisation of Martha, as in Yoko Martha Inoue.Simon Cohen and Martha are his apprentices, so to speak.
>>750118034Oh that is cool. Thanks
>>750118161And here's the opposite page just so you can see that it clearly is Schroeder watching over his students.
>>750116415>It's also pretty crazy to think that 2 years from the end of AC8, Dision gets blowed upOnly a month and a half, actually.
>>750118408Thanks for keeping correct track of the event, Simon
>>750118463Anon, we're being simulated right now
>>750117451For me its https://youtu.be/gs6yseO7f4wToo good for only the load screen
>>750118560Very true, that's a close second for meThat drop around 0:55 is also a contender for best part of the soundtrack
>>750118560It's also the briefing music in Joint Assault for some reason
>>750117451I like how AC3 kind of predicted our future by going all-in on digitzation (while everything else is largely the same) instead of the typical cyborg/android route 90's sci-fi went for.
>>750118848They do have proper high density futuristic cities though, but I guess it's not that different from Shenzhen or whatever else
>>750119114They got trains that run straight through the middle of skyscrapers and apartment complexes, yeah sounds like sci-fi shit
COFFIN converted planes are weird, they look cool and futuristic, but also lifeless, like drones
>>750119836No canopy, that's why. They're scary to look at.
>>750106132Why did Rena latch on to him like that? Wasn't she like 9?..
>>750119836>>750119952But undeniably things of extreme beauty.
>>750120226She's a lab rat who never har a family and Dision was the closest thing she had to an older brother
>>750121301True, it's really sad actuallyEspecially when Simon starts deleting those memories at a time when Dision can see it happen and is completely powerless, the guy's a true grade A chud
>>750120326Beautifully cold
>>750121389They're both chuds, that's what's so funny about it. The only actual Chad in AC3 is Keith.
>ac3 is just a simulation>everyone acts like all of the characters besides the the nerd, jock (forma de ai) and the ai made to kill the jock are real I dont get it. He litteraly made everything else up.
>>750121557They're only based on real persons and not the persons themselves, but it's real enough for them within the simulationThey don't take kindly to realizing they're in one
>>750121472My man Keith, I didn't expect him to be such a bro, nor to warm up to him as fast as I did>inb4 it gets stuck
>>750121557He made the simulation in the first place to ensure that Dision would be killed, so presumably it's accurate enough to have that be carried out when Nemo is deployed in the real worldOf course that doesn't mean it's going to be flawless, Simon himself is incredibly flawed so there's likely plenty of things he didn't account for, but I don't think he'd deploy Nemo without getting all the basics like people and places nailed down
>>750121557Erich is already established to be real because Jaeger is his father.
>Reach Checkpoint.>Pull a retarded stunt and crash.>Rest back to the prior checkpoint( it's the beginning of the mission).._.
>>750122857Just like the real Su-37!
>>750121963>ensure that Dision would be killed, so presumably it's accurate enough to have that be carried out when Nemo is deployed in the real worldIsn't dision already dead in the real world?
>>750123437Cohen is malding so much that he wants the depressed sublimated copy erased at all costs as well.
>>750123437Simon wants Dision's Electrosphere'd self dead as well
>>750123567not only did Dision cuck himself, but now a jewish scientist is using AI against him
>>750118560This literally my top favorite track from the entire Ace Combat franchise. I hum it all the time :)
>>750122564Oh, so he's the one who heard about Trigger
>>750122564Yup, Erich and Yoko have been confirmed real already. Rena, we'll see about her, but "Darkness of Enigma" has been confirmed in AC8, and she was the prime test subject, so. Fiona I coulda sworn she waa alluded to somewhere outside AC3. But suffice to say, pathetic as he is, Simon is still a bright guy, he wouldn't make a silly mistake such as investing his time in a simulation that wouldn't match reality, even if it isn't 1:1.
>>750124485Makes me quiver in anticipation for the future when I see all these littles dots being joined in the recent gamesI'm so happy they didn't forget about AC3 and are writing new links to it
Do people actually use the laser beam( TLS) special weapon? Precision in this type of game seems a bit tricky, maybe on ground units but otherwise I can't see it being more useful than Plasma rounds.
>>750125328Same, I'm pumped, I legitimately cannot wait for AC9, I hope they stick with the game base AC8 established, I can't wait 7 more years for this shit.
>>750125483The TLS would eat anything it swept over in Zero and 5. It was heavily nerfed in 7 but there we also had the really good PLSL to compensate- and you could still use it effectively at sniping distance on a few levels.I've barely used the Morgan's TLS in 8 but it feels pretty bad.
>>750122857Whuh- What are you even trying to do?
>>750126896Trying to do a split-s roll, emphasis on "trying".
>>750125801I love the EML in Project Wingman and am kinda sad the big weapons in AC don't work the same way/aren't as effective
>>750127697Oh, maneuvers can become tighter and more responsive with higher-maneuverability planes, the kind you can afford late game. That you and generally just wanna stay away from the ground in AC, until you're comfortable enough to fly really low.
>>750106132Who knew you can grow a beard in the internet?
>>750128051The beard was a stress response
>>750128051Fucking lmao no way I gotta check that scene againAlso what's it like to quite literally be your own cucker?
I thought the Cope stuff in AC8 was gonna end up being some weird form of proto-sublimation but nope, its just ghosts.
>>750128268Me too! I thought Cope was a Dead Copy! But nope, it's Streangereal and ghosts are real I guess, and different cultures' interpretation of the afterlife may or not all be real at once.
>>750128175I don't agree with people that claim that simon made everything up for his simulation, but there was definitely a LOT of projection of simon's own feelings when he imagined how sublimated dision thinks and behaves...
>>750128950he's a real gamer for driving toward the sunset with Cynthia in her ending, and for looking into how Fiona is dealing with receiving a message from her electro-self during her own endingThe simulation does *not* skimp on waifu side-content, because I'm 100% sure he also uses it as a dating and bromance sim
>>750128051People do the opposite all the time in VR chat, I'm more surprised that we can't distinguish a person in front of a camera and a sublimated person in an avatar...Though our real world AI probably isn't too far from that already
Are we sure sublimation is actually a thing? Cause if dision die 2 months after AC8 is over. There is no tecnology capable of that yet.
My mindraped vampire FOX2meat...
>>750129949If I'm remembering this right, sublimation didn't become public knowledge until at least 10 years after Dision's death, it was suber sekrit technology then
>>750129949AC3 seems more technology advanced in 2030 than how it seems at the end of AC8But I don't know, the whole private Enso interweb shown by DD is a lot like a very developed but early version of our internet, and I can imagine that it's a good basis for the future electrosphere (which was meant to be "the future of the internet")So maybe he's the first sublimation subject and his brain gets put in a smaller scale electrosphere at first, then he eventually escapes and starts planning Ourobouros Maybe he reaches out to General and they agree to pretend he's still actually alive
>>750130124Her condition is that she can't stand sunlight on her skin right? There's no reason for her to need a full-on astronaut suit all the time outside of sheer autismAlso you can hang out at night girlGod she's so broken
>>750130124Fiona a cute
>>750130319>AC3 seems more technology advanced in 2030 than how it seems at the end of AC8That makes me think that simon made the simulation with the setting using the tecnology of the time, so maybe there isn't even a sublimated dision out there
>>750129949>There is no tecnology capable of that yet.Yoko M. Inoue is actively researching it, but GR will blow her up along with her lab and our pal Colonel Mustard.
>>750130801Why'd they blow them up again? And was Yoko related to Darkness of Enigma?
>>750131047>Why'd they blow them up again?I believe Inoue was planning to defect from GR and join Neucom, but nothing substantiates that. Officially, GR executives thought her sublimation research was too dangerous.>And was Yoko related to Darkness of Enigma?She was involved with Zone of Endless, which developed into DOE, so... very probably?
>>750131047Some execs at GR wanted sublimation research over with and lost, because it seemed too dangerous (too much like something Neucom might do)>Darkness of EnigmaShe was working on ZOE before, and some of that ended up DOE, so technically, I guess so? But she isn't mentionned as one of the main brains on the subject, her and Simon were probably doing something else
>>750108668>not using the cirno skin f-2
>>750130673They can (and will) pull out the "lol simulation" card any time they want to handwave any differences between AC9 and 3. The question is *what* they'll change. The tech gap right now between 2030 and Electrosphere isn't crazy at all, aside from sublimation. What they most likely will change is the setting- OG AC3 was a pre-Strangereal game, "USEA" was the United States of Euro-Asia, there was no Osea, Yuktobania, Belka, nothing. And a cornerstone of the premise that the megacorps like GR have effectively rendered all nations de facto governments, and with how powerful Yuktobania and Osea are, we would need to see how they fit in into that picture. AC8 has already setup Usea's corporate takeover.
>>750131047It's a plot device to reveal dision as the main antagonist and kick start the ouroboros path
>>750132025>The tech gap right now between 2030 and Electrosphere isn't crazy at all, aside from sublimationAeon particles. Where the hell do they come from?
>>750132025The next war might be a war to end all governments and replace the political system with pure market-diplomacy
>>750132025Maybe they'll adapt Advance's story but have GR beat everyone until they form up into the UEPO/UAD and push back enough
>>750132245Simon's a galaxy gas fiend and in his ideal future as per the simulation, the atmosphere around cities is doped with extra nitrous oxide and oxygen, constantly emitted from the AEON plants, it feels goodOf course, these are the dreams of an addict and a madman, there's no such thing in real life
>>750132453>form up into the UPEO/UADAnon... UPEO is an arm of GR
>>750116415>I really like how they deal with the idea of playing out a simulationAnd one of the directors that went on to work with Cavia on Drakengard/Nier...The presentation in AC3 excels, not just in style but in how it's implemented:>As soon as the PS1 boot screen finishes, you get a 'presented by namco' screen with a CRT power on effect>Main menu options are 'new account', 'download', 're-open' - this connects your Data Swallow account, everything in the game UI is governed by DS>When you finish an ending, the game abruptly ends the scene with a CRT power off effect (Simon's program basically ends and goes back to another branch)>The game discs themselves are something that 'shouldn't exist' - they have "PROJECT NEMO ARCHIVE DISC" printed on them and Simon was supposed to purge it allYou are essentially executing Simon's program via your Playstation.
>>750133342So much soul There are also the moments where Simon speaks to you or the simulation kinda breaks and the screen becomes fuzzy, which must have looked amazing on a CRTAnd of course that ending with the green console text when Simon types the commands to purge the program, and you see Nemo/the name of your save file being used It's something I haven't seen much of outside of Eternal Darkness, it's really great
>>750107669>did it in the F-15 tooNice.
>>750108151AC8 clarifies that the ones who made the X-40 were hired from the work on the ADF series.
>>750133589MGS2 comes to mind, where Raiden throws the dogtags. But AC3 came first.Also, if any of you haven't seen mission 00 yet, here it is - the Load Word patch team subbed it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChHhpPE42Q>the soul in the Neucom nanobites and air purifier ads>the corpospeak bits>presentation of company planes with the in-game visualsAnd then the news program talking about:>dictionaries for 'dead languages' such as Esperanto (lol)>updates in DS allowing extraction of speech from overlapping audio and then syncing it to other visuals>the release of DS in >>>2020<<< which drastically changed our lives, where activities such as commuting to work or school became things of the pastThat final one feels a bit too precise...
>>750134046oh shid I didn't know about that, thanks a lot, I'll be watching it soon
>>750134269Glad to help, anon. Enjoy a half-hour dive into your Data Swallow.The in-game encyclopedia was also fully translated by Load Word - if you have a Project Nemo savefile, just load that using the LW version (it'll work) and you can read all the entries you got unlocked, for maximum Electrosphere-ing.
>>750125483>>7501258018's TLS is absolutely broken for PVP because its high damage and there is no counter to it anymore. If you get proficient with M&K aiming you are just an unstoppable menace.
>>750117631>>750118259>Schroeder calling Simon to stop obsessing over getting cucked and remember to restore Belka's pride
>>750130650And dead.
>>750135980I can always pivot to the sister until she dies.Well actually, even after that, if we go by the ending where Fi survives.
reminder that if you subliminate yourself you are LITERALLY cucking the AI version of you out of the afterlife which canonically existsnow THAT is the ultimate and final cuck
>>750136760Imagine if at the end of SOMA they revealed scientist heaven is real
>>750129416Instead of upeo/gr/neucom/ourobouros, you really could divide the routes by the person nemo choses as as wingman and learns from, withe the choice being between erich, fiona, cynthia, keith and dision.
>>750133342>one of the directors that went on to work with Cavia on Drakengard/Nier...>Caim can get an Su-47 as special "dragon" in Drakengard 1Ace Combat/Drakengard crossover when?
>>750130124I just hope we can save her this time aroundPlaying UPEO first makes the next four routes extra depressing
>>750116415Does anyone have any idea what the hell they were doing in those huge tunnels leading to the geofront? Like why does all that even exist, it's so HUGE
>>750137035Well Scarface 1 was in Drakengard technically.
>>750137156Yeah but Caim in Ace Combat would rule, the guy would make Shadow 22 and Merc chiper look like saints
>>750137149Maybe it existed to pump out water originally.
>>750136959I'm not sure Nemo really "chooses" to follow a specific path, and that maybe he thinks more along the lines of "let's just try out every available option"That makes Nemo a bit more inhuman in my mind, because he never cares about the other characters, only what outcome they'll help achieve (total Dision death)
>>750137149To fly planes throughWhat else
>>750137149probably runs giant ventilation and temperature control systems along with water supply given how big the geofront is and how you'd still have to supply it
>>750137149That's one of those bits where the simulation's probably doing its own thingthe Geofront as it looks in the game isn't very realistic given the timeframe and the scale of it, so maybe what we see is more a mix of "what it could be" and "how it's planned to be"Would be fun if in AC9 we end up fighting in the Geofront but under construction, caverns connected by tunnels, underground lakes, a bit like the Project Wingman DLC tunnel run
Why didn't Harling just haunt people and tell them it wasn't Trigger? Is he stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_NVTy2AofwA guy's vibecoding a sort of PS1 3D upscaler, and trying it out on AC3
did she piss in Simon's cereal or something? How come she gets nothing but either suffering or death regardless of which route you pick?
>>750137547You think the President of Osea has a seat in Heaven?
>>750137793https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61YKVLr9_Z8Yeah I'd play that
>>750137547I assume you need great willpower and some major unfinished mission to be able to become a force ghost.
>>750137821She blows up in like 4 endings out of 5 I noticed that too
>>750137890>modern UIsoulless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMVCOcMitOQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjPnoSNprEhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDD61C76EF278E530
It's literally Gundam now. With Newtypes and Newtype ghosts.
>>750137341Erich points out that before awakening as his own entitety/being controlled by the player, nemo started out by copying fiona and rena's moves. He also directly asks nemo to stay with him, as he's the only one he can count to support him (and since fiona eventually leaves for neucom while rena leaves for ourobouros, he's not wrong).It's also not accidental that erich, fiona, cynthia and keith are the ones to take down dision in their respective routes, with nemo only taking matters in it's own hands in dision's route.
I saw a JP tweet that called Kate "widow coded" and I enjoyed that
I'll cum buckets if AC9 is basically a (strange)"real" version of AC3.
>>750138590>the most advanced fighter imaginable in ace combat history is a biplaneI fucking love you PA
>>750137890Genuinely impressed by the fmv upscale, no obvious artifacts or overly compressed edges despite only having a fairly low quality video as basis.https://youtu.be/1vA3qws-SmI
>>750138768It's inspired by the real life "busemann's biplane" theory.https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Conceptual-drawing-of-boomless-supersonic-biplane-in-supersonic-level-flight-11-The_fig28_273656527
RELENTLESSLY Kinographic. Is there a non-zero chance we'll go back to the anime art style for AC9?
>>750139238I doubt it, just because I really don't see PA being comfortable with handing off large amounts of the cutscenes to an anime studio, but I think the character style they introduced for AC8 will work.
>>750139238I could picture them getting the same character designer, but aside from that I don't think they'll go anime again. Maybe for some of the art though.
Just replayed mission 23 in AC8, back to Expo CityThis time I killed all the Gemmas before the Shadows :)
>>750137821every woman in this game is a retard, so that's not a surprise
>>750139875Good chap :)
>>750138883I'm really surprised by how good the 3D in this looks too
>>750139238they could work with studio **Trigger**
>>750140126Hehe :3
>>750138883the few artifacts I see are mainly text, it's very clean otherwise
God, I love missle warnings!
>>750140463>[MISSILE ALERT]>BEEP!!! BEEP!!! BEEP!!!>[RAILGUN WARNING]>BEEP!!! BEEP!!! BEEP!!!>[CAUTION! PULL UP!]>BEEP!!! BEEP!!! BEEP!!!>JOKER 1 YOU ARE ON THE ENEMY'S TAIL>[SHOOT]>JOKER 1 YOU HAVE BEEN LOCKED ONTO BY MISSILE! EVADE!>[MISSILE ALERT]>BEEP!!! BEEP!!! BEEP!!!>[RAILGUN WARNING]
>>750139238I wouldn't be opposed, but I think a lot of people would be taken aback because Ace Combat hasn't looked like this for 20 years. Especially in-engine, you've seen the characters in full 3D for a while now. They're not hyper realistic with extreme detail but they look like normal people.The only way I'd expect a complete anime rendition of AC9 is if it was basically AC3+, same "story" and moments expanded with like a second act / "this is what actually happens" route, all from Nemo's perspective, and I don't think they'll do that. I think the game will have a similar overall aesthetic but not visual style, best we can hope for is an official version of JP AC3 translated into other languages as the next pre-order bonus.
>>750140763>mfw enemy missile does a 180° mid-air
>>750141021>I can do that too
>>750140863>best we can hope for is an official version of JP AC3 translated into other languages as the next pre-order bonus.That alone will make it worth it even if by some complete freak accident AC9 turns out to be ass
>>750138539she does have that feel
>>750141407They're not that big in-game...
>>750141226Are laws of physics just a suggestion to Ace pilots?
>>750141621More like a plea
>>750141561but they should've been
>>750141561not yet
>Even Idolm@ster is UGSFMy god...
>Archer>GrimmWhy does this guy get two different cool names?
>>750141561You know how Tasha's hair was supposed to get more natural?By the time of the DLC, she'll be pregnant from Rex, and her appearance will reflect that
I haven't played 8 yet. Are we actually finally about to hit Electrosphere or is it being strung along again?
>>750142632One of the big shadowy villains in the game is a corporation directly tied to GR
>>750142747Any fucking day now, AP will be forced to finally make a cyberpunk AC again...
>>750108668>BRRRRRRT right into pixys facenever had a chance
>>750142632Timeline wise, yes. Setting wise, there are hints but Electrosphere is still way more advanced than AC8 despite everything. Like every country in the world has demilitarized at that point and Coffins are standard issue on even the old junk fighters that UPEO uses
>>750142632>>750142747Also, Rex's worldwide popularity probably made people give Globalism a chance after the whole "world with no boundaries" mess 30 years ago.
>DD! It's going viral!>YES YES YES!Yfw?
>>750142986>ninety thousand>No, Ninety Million!I wonder how they're gonna work this out in AC9, as it'd be weird for people to not mention the Hand Of Hope when talking about good pilots.
>>750142986Would /v/ ever consider a /v/ sings for song of wings? Or any AC song really (unsung war would be cool)
>>750142941AC8 has neural controlled aircraft and cold fusion, they aren't far off at all
>>750142941A catastrophic enough war could make those things happen
>>750142941AC3 was more advanced cause it was like a decade ahead, but a lot of core technologies are already clearly available.
>>750106132Am I just too retarded for this genre?I can't beat any mission for the life of me and it takes me hours of retrying, I struggle to control the aircraft and when the enemy is aproaching me in the oposite direction I just lose it and spin around, am I going too fast or something or am I geniuniely retarded?Currently stuck on the stonehenge defense mission in 7
>>750135980Nonono, MY Fiona is very much alive, just suicidally depressed!
>>750147049Stonehenge Defense is hard as fuck, you just gotta learn itAfter a while it kinda clicks though, I took my sweet time to get used to 4.
>>750116415the Geofront is really interesting since it most likely began development during the Ulysses incident and the Sataon invasion just justified it even more
>>750147049Anon can you record a little clip of you playing?
>>750147049Getting used to controlling your plane and avoiding tunnel vision on "I MUST BE FLYING BEHIND THIS GUY IN ORDER TO SHOOT HIM" is the hard part of these games. Once you understand that sometimes you should break off and come at it again from a different angle instead of trying to chase 1 headless chicken while 30 other chickens are shooting at you it gets a lot easier. Also use SP Weapons
So what did you ask Project Aces to collab with if given the chance?
>>750120326I desperately need this as a skin in 8
>>750147735Star Wars. Star Wars Squadron was pretty much Ace Combat already, but SquadronS was a disappointment.
Blud is really named Abyssal
>>750142632no, the next game will obviously be the Sotoa-Yuktobanian War
>>750142986SO WE WILL RIIIIISEEEEEEE ABOVEEEEEIN A WORLD WHERE EVIL ISREPLACED BY LOVE ANDWE WON'T REGRET ITEVEN IF WE LOSE THIS FIGHTWE WILL EMERGE INTO THE LIGHT AGAAAAAAAAINRISING UP AGAIN
>>750143361They didn't even mention Trigger by name and he was basically strangereal John Connor
>>750128051>can you hear me?God how deep does this go
>>750142986when I saw the 20,006 on the stream I almost immediately knew what was going to happenthat fucking bug
>>750137528Ace Combat 4 and 5 show the start of megaprojects like the megafloat after they found out about the asteroid
When you think about it, if AC9 is AC3 (real) then it has the absolute fucking kino opportunity of putting AC3's staunchly more grim plot and tone up against AC's modern, more hopeful toneNemo embodying the dark future, and (you), the new singularity embodying the hopeful one.
>>750137547not a fighter pilot
>>750148862The real kino would be to treat nemo as a full fledged singularity that can actually shoot down the player without the game forcing you to retry to continue the story. No more mihaly being scripted to be invincible until it's time for the player to beat him, no more putting pixy in the final fight that you have to win lest the world be nuked, i mean actual ace to ace combat throughout the story.
>>750140763I've been playing these games long enough that this is soft-rain-against-my-window levels of soothing to me.
>>750149737You mean like a multiplayer fight or an AI on par with a skilled multiplayer opponent? Maybe with a path change if you lose.
Might I got good but is it common sentiment that Mr.X was a bit underwhelming for a rival and a duel?The fucking Arsenal Bird( Round 3) was more of a pain in comparison.
>>750149737>nemo can fucking respawn>he has his own checkpoints too
>>750150363mihaly was a pretty cool character but the iframe thing during his fights is gay as hell, yeah
>>750150363Once you get good, solo ace fights in this series are either over too quickly to feel satisfying or they have to cheat one way or another, since you'll pretty much never get hit yourself which means there's no feeling of back and forth. It's why I was okay with Pasternak showing up with 2000 UAVs in his boss fight and going mach 5 when you shot at him
>>750130124I'd show Rena a DATA SWALLOW.
>>750149737I've been thinking that singularity vs singularity is one of the big things they still have left to do, where the enemy ace is actually out there doing sorties at the same rate as (You) and they're actively taking back land as you take it from the enemymaybe Nemo even builds a squad over the course of the game because he sees that singularities usually have a couple people they fly withso the entire game is basically Nemo learning to be a real boy while gearing up to kill Dision and (You) for getting in his way
>>750148256Can't fathom it
>>750150835They did that, Torres was a singularity, but guess we're waiting on a pilot
>>750150616All of his moments were pretty solid to be fair, though I felt that Count wanted him dead more than me. Cool character but the most I felt was pity towards him and his granddaughters for getting dragged into a Belkan conspiracy.
>>750150334I was thinking the later. But if project aces can't handle making a game with multiple paths, they could do what hajimari no kiseki did and have the player swap between characters mid fight:https://youtu.be/HKK7p3ZRgas>>750150375Being an AI, you can have nemo respawn in story either because made several backups of himself or because he managed to jump into another plane by hacking before being destroyed, except in the final battle where all other options are gone and he has no way to survive other than by winning.
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>>750151342the final mission would obviously be the one where he hacks you and you have to fight him in the electrosphere
>>750151912That's not really possible for a human, the closest thing would be rena with her onsi/ direct nerve connection to the computer, but that just allows nemo to mind rape you...Best weapon against nemo is probably the nanobytes.https://youtu.be/mQwFnKXksq8
>>750147735> <<Got a job for you.>>
>>750147735idols
>>750147735Nintendo, to turn Star Fox into (sp)Ace Combat
>>750147735Macross
>nearly 4 minutes of mission failed cutscenes.https://youtu.be/Akis7vqo6OQRelatively short compared to newer games, but at least they are actual cutscenes rather than just quotes.
>>750117451For me, it's when it goes full Drakengardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGJtJTzAdOU
Finally finished Zero. Absolutely great game. Though I'd say I think 8 is better in most aspects outside of maybe it's story and characters(well just Pixy) but gameplay and mission design is much better in 8. I never want to do mission 7 ever again.
>>750154116>I never want to do mission 7 ever againWelcome to the club, Buddyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNzjy9GG-0Q
>>750154116Glatistant is kinda kino if you take the Big Migger with UGBs, climb above the clouds to go fast and then dive back down into the rain to bomb the fortresses.
>>750154297>>750154861>what's that? AA? Too bad I'm 15km away with my new SATAN NIGGER DEATH RAPE beam
>>750154861luv foxbathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUypfJdqRgc
>>750147735>>750153364Macross times twohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ar7eE91cY
They should make Aurora canon as well
>>750155383kek literally me. I felt no guilt cheesing some of the pain in the ass missions on very hard.
>>750153673Songs to get your memories wiped to
>>750147735>>750153364>>750155497Macross and Yukikaze
I had my finger on the throttle when this started and I accidentally rammed my ass into his plane, killing us both instantlyStill got my S rank
>AC5 Tunnel missionWow i hate this
>We're introducing a new AI automated assistant to select battlefield targets for new pilots>We call it NEMOIf AC8 is Mobile Suit Gundam, AC9 should be Gundam Wing
>>750115026he never got the speech from Goto
>>750147049No. You're not. My family said the same thing but they have actively never played any game with flying vehicles, only action games, JRPGs and over the shoulder shooters. Its something new and it takes time, if you're willing to be patient and work at it the payoff will feel amazing.
my man...
He got it stuck when no one else could.
Is tunnel vision the best tunnel run in the series?probably?AC7's pretty good but it's more like a corridor and there's no cool shortcut
>>750119836>but also lifeless, like dronesI mean, it works in that regard.>>750130650And being the universe's butt monkey for no damn reason.
>>750159225he should've been in AC8, maybe part of Jackpot squadron
ZERO IS NOW ITS OWN ENTRY, ACHIEVEMENTS INCLUDED
>>750162042You better have those 165 S ranks by tomorrow wings.
>>750162042it feels surreal to finally be able to remove this ancient pcsx2 shortcut I added to steam
>>750147735Blue ArchiveHaloI should have said Black souls too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKFSIOleDw0this track had no reason to go as hard as it does
>>750162468We already got one AC collab
>>750161853By the time of ac8 he and dision were a team and general resource's star pilots. It would have been perfect had they showed up in their canard f-16 anf f-15 for mission 30, as a twisted reflection of cypher and pj from ace combat zero - although rex wouldn't be allowed to shoot them down.
>>750163795FANART DOESN'T COUNT
>>750161853He's already flying for GR circa AC8.
>>750163369Most rocket tracks in these series are like that
>>750163369diving down from the stratosphere chasing the debris with that choir and the strings going off was fucking exhilarating
>>750154116Bastion is a really long "make no mistakes" check but man do I love that soundtrack. The exact moment that I knew I'd love the game.
So with how everything is going with modern AC, is it possible they're gonna "reboot" 3 and redo the story with the new details from the games after it?
>>7501655168 basically confirms it's going to happen, the question is if it's next or if they'll have another game in between
>>750165697Oh no, It's obvious we're heading into electrosphere territory. I'm just wondering if we're gonna skip over the game itself and go into the real corporate war or if they'll actually just completely retell AC3 itself. I'd like a Zero style side game that expands on the Sotoan-Yuketobanian war but I dunno how feasibly that can be done with how long games take to make now.
>>750162042>MFW is real
>>750165834I think with how old some of the OGs are getting like Kono I think AC9 will be AC3. They will wrap it all up by having AC9 be AC3 outside of the simulation and then hand off the series to the younger staff with a relatively clean slate for AC10.
>>750165834sotoa-yuktobania is prime dlc territory if you ask me
>>750165982Yeah, that's the most likely plan I feel, we're just way too close NOT to go over AC3's story even if it's more of an exposition dump.
>>750166181I feel like a DLC mission wouldn't do it justice, it really feels choked full of potential for a full expansion kind of game.
>>750166261Not with how long these titles take now. If we were still on a 1-2 year turn around then fine, but I'm not waiting 5+ years for a conflict that doesn't really add anything when Electrosphere is right there.We also don't need 2 games in a row with Sotoans as the main enemy.
>>750165834Since both 7 and 8 have emphasized how the player character can be a variable that defies expectation, seems like that's laying the groundwork for a game where 3 starts happening but then goes off the rails.
>>750138010And grieving for her dead sister in the only route where she lives. Putting her down is a mercy.
>>750166347Yeah, that's my main issue. I'd be fine with two games back to back if it was faster to make these games but no fucking way that's gonna happen. I mostly just want to see how hype Tasha's mom was, honestly.
>>750166398I like the idea of essentially a man-made singularity, that being Nemo, going against an actual singularity which will probably be our new protagonist.
>>750137821I wish she pissed on my cereal
>>750166398>>750166562I think if you had the new guy kill Nemo you'd end up pissing off a lot of Japs.
>>750166842Would they care? They know what the deal is, and AC3's true end isn't exactly a happy one. Making Nemo the recurring rival since it's as an AI monster that keeps coming back via backups/data transfers would be cool.
>>750166842You'll have the option to kill or save Nemo
>>750167126>>750167175>over the course of the game and your encounters together, nemo learns what it means to be a true ace>one who seeks strength>one who loves for pride>one who can read the tide of battle
>>750167438>If you kill every target Nemo becomes bloodthirsty>If you just do your mission Nemo becomes merciful>If you do whatever you think is necessary, Nemo has to take time to draw its own conclusions
>>750167175>fuse yourself with nemo>destroy all corpos and unleash hell on the world >sent the world back to the stone age>the world achieves the No Border status>kill nemo>let the corpos run wild>sent the world into a tech hell worse than AC3>the world achieves the No Border status
>>750162042>>750162153ugh...this will take a while...
>>750167126I feel like no matter how you cut it, "Nemo" is still a protagonist in the series. While the events of AC3 are the results of possible choices he could make, the player is the one making those choices and their reasons could be robotic autism completionist tendencies to see all routes or emotionally driven to follow a certain character's story. In that sense, Nemo has or can grow to have a character of his own.I think it'd be cool to have whoever the protagonist of AC9 is be similarly-aligned to UPEO, so Nemo is a fellow ace pilot on different missions and he helps you on a couple. Then he goes rogue and starts doing his own thing, which culminates in you shooting him down. But then he comes back later, you learn about his true nature, and you fight him another time. He comes back again, not fighting you but trying to achieve things around the world, maybe there's a scene where he crashes a plane into something important to stop it, and he kind of sets the stage for you to accomplish your final goal in the war. Final scene for him could be hijacking some unmanned space flight to explore the universe after all's said and done.
>>750168447Not really, I've been playing on PS and it's surprisingly easy to get S ranks at least on Normal. Not to mention the game is super fucking short, so repeat playthroughs with better planes will be easy as shit.
We are assuming nemo is a pure ai, but simons' doctorate thesis is "Basic Theory of Artificial Intelligence Organization by Genetic Information Conversion"Memo might be sublimated pilot modified/brainwashed to accomplish simon's revenge.
>>750148862After 7 came out I thought 8 would be AC3 (real)I don't get why people think it would actually be the case next time when we still have like 10 more years down the timeline, I think they're fine stretching things out until then. Unless it's just newfags finding out about the series for the first time.
>>750169196>NEMO>NEo MObius
I am playing through 3, my first ace combat. I already got the list of what to check out next but is there any other game similar to 3's vibe and atmosphere, seriously stylish game, i love it.
How long did it take for Bamco to take out Denuvo from AC7? I'm not playing 8 until that shit's gone. I got 7 with all the topgun dlc for less than $10 and with no denuvo on top, so I can be patient.
>>750170569X on PSP.
>>750170258oh shiiiiiiiiiiitit's just Latin for 'nobody' but this could be a nice retcon thing
>>750170569Drakengard 1 definitely shares some similarities in tone especially with the situation getting more fucked the further the game goes, and half of the game is ace combat but on a dragon. Drakengard's project name was actually Dragonsphere in reference to AC3. You just have to deal with the musou part which can be kind of a slog.
AC9 being AC3 but in the 'real' world with Nemo left to roam free would be cool as fuck, but any players who didn't play PN or LWT's patches would be completely lost...Remaking all 50+ missions for a modern title would be a gargantuan task, too.Maybe they could pull an Innocent Aces and do a little OVA for Simon's simulation arc?
>>750170569AC3's vibe and atmosphere are pretty unique, but check out Drakengard (maybe just in video) as the other anon said. Same director (Iwasaki).If you meant the graphical style instead, other Namco titles from the era fit, such as Ridge Racer Type 4. There's also Techno Drive on arcade (exact same UI designer). From a different company, genre and region (Europe) there's Wipeout - you have some Y2k futuristic visual elements courtesy of The Designers Republic and it features fast flying ships that can use weapons such as plasma missiles and mines.
>>750171610>>750171374>>750171159Thanks, I've played drakengard 3, believe it or not from nier automata to it, painful experience i might have too much drakengard for one life already in my blood. ridge racer looks great, ive seen this before. i also meant the whole cyber story or something similar, this game is amazing, ill check out the other ace combats but none are grabbing me like this
>>750171730Fair enough, though Drakengard 3 is its own beast. I really hated how they dropped the roaming flight from 1 for a star fox corridor flight gameplay. Didn't help that they shifted more to land missions than flight missions. And they got rid of being able to wreck a land mission by jumping on your dragon. I didn't hate Drakengard 3, but it really didn't feel like the sequel to 1 that I wanted.
>>750171426Obviously AC3 (ps1 graphics and all) would be the preorder bonus, and everyone who doesn't preorder is just fubar
>>750171730AC from 4 onwards is a different beast when it comes to themes. Nothing really approaches 3's themes. Guess Bamco was heavily into Ghost In The Shell back then (they got the same studio to make the anime cutscenes and chara designs after all).Nier Automata does kinda have similar themes with the whole android/person thing.
What was his name again
>>750172831Cope and theve'ing
