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>artstyle and animations barely a step above DoW3
Will buy on sale for €10 for campaign and last stand in a year but other than that, it really doesn't look that great. People in the playtest are saying you can't even make vehicles reverse? lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITQofIFjI_M
Looks like they really took some of the better elements of DoW1 with some of DoW2.

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>>750141770
>artstyle and animations barely a step above DoW3
Melee combat looks fantastic, they don't lie about this at least. Really looks like there is a stupid amount of animations. It's almost all sync animations with dozens of variations per squad, different ones playing constantly in order to not get repetitive. Not like you can afford to zoom in and watch in peace without getting raped
>really doesn't look that grea
it's super cartoony
>can't even make vehicles reverse?
You can't
>>750142570
I'm playing playtest
VA sucks. Necrons in particular sound bad, literally just like humans. I did not expect this. At the very least they should run their lines through some filter, Jesus Christ. Marines and Admech sound more robotic
Requisition works like DoW1, Energy like DoW2
Battles are massive and hitting unit cap feels impossible
Maps are very varied visually
Marines are the only micro intensive faction all about using many abilities on your few and expensive squads and with limited base building in order to allow this. So they feel more like they play DoW2 while others play DoW1. They are the weakest faction and cannot cope with amount of bodies everyone else throws
Factions are very, VERY different from each other in playstyle
UI looks like it was themed after previous 40k logo
I don't know what it is about camera, or if this is even camera issue, but it pisses me off. Can't put it into words really, but looking at the game feels off. I don't think this is tied to cartoony artstyle. Projection feels weird and simultaneously everything zoomed in, but also zoomed out and hard to see sometimes. Can't explain it
Game crashed for me thrice and when I tried multi I got desynced few minutes in. Because of this I got cucked out of Necron levels twice and once for Orks aaa
Actually cool profile customization. Or would be if those quotes and VA didn't suck
I keep losing to medium AI. It's strong and very aggressive. Will quickly cap all their resources and then attack you

holy shit necron resurrection galleries are fun but also a MONSTER pain in the god damn ass.
yes sir feed my gatling gun repulsor tank MORE endless fucking necron warriors.
admech is my favorite faction (painting some pteraxii sterylizors today (fuck those wings)) but i suck asssssssss as them, i feel like there are way more moving parts in their faction but maybe its because they're the only one with a real builder unit like in DoW1

>>750143842
>It's almost all sync animations
I thought this was really cool in the trailer. The combat should actually look pretty good

my 30k/40k game ideas DONUT STEEL
>White Scars jetpack racing but like Twisted Metal
>Imperial Fists / Iron Warrior style RTS or maybe 4x where one side fortifies and another sieges
>Big TPS MMO like Warframe but more fleshed out as an RPG and less as a dynamic shooter set in 30k - you can choose one of the founding legions as your faction
>Hitman but in 40k and you have two campaigns, Raven Guard for loyalist and Alpha Legion for Traitor
THOUGHTS?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!

>>750143842
Does it at least feel like a step up in quality from DoW3?
I don't need it to be perfect or even as good as 2, but I think being better than 3 is a respectable threshold requirement

>>750143842
Apparently it has an AI director for sync kill animations so there won't be any invincible animations like with DoW1. This also is supposed to make them flow and transition better between units that are much different from each other and more dynamic.

Hopefully it pulls off.

Which faction has builder units? it's something I'm autistic with and I hate RTS without builder units

>>750145752
admech are the only faction with dedicated builder units
space marine and necron building self assemble and just about any ork infantry can build

>>750145342
tfw when no one responds I am killing myself

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>>750145508
I barely played dow3 so I can't really tell
But overall
>Campaign will have proper cinematics for the first time in series.
Campaign is not in playtest, but we all have seen george droyd (female apparently) and while they look ok, imho are completely ruined by utterly retarded direction
>4 factions instead of 3 like in dow3. But I'd rather have Eldar instead of Admech
Side note, but I find it very obnoxious how GW ALWAYS have to force Necrons vs Admech ever since Admech got army. It's a blatant mandate at this point and it's jarring as hell. Go back to at least paring Admech against Genestealer cults, anything.
>DoW3 basically has no kill syncs, here everything is kill synced
So yeah?
>>750145638
Yeah this "AI director" whatever it is really works. Fucking hell, even retreating seems to have unique animation. I told Cyrus to run away and squigga boyz kept knocking him over in different ways, throwing those spears, jumping on him, he kicking them away and they mounting their squig away etc.
Shooting on other hand feels very stiff

>>750146629
emperor's judgment upon ye

>>750146629
>>750145342
>games that already exist but with a 40k skin
Youre not creative.

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I hope the campaign is good and not just a 10 mission long tutorial for the multiplayer

I'm hoping for this game to do well, but I fear it's overshadowed by TW4000k even if it releases many month before
There's not a lot of RTS players anymore, for most people, the popular strategy type is the one used in TW

>>750146732
IIRC the devs chose necrons because DoW3 teased necrons as the next DLC but then DoW3 fell flat on its face, so they picked up the pieces and rolled with it
admech because something new and unused in the RTS space.
but yeah fuck me GSC would be cool as fuck for DoW4 but we're probably getting our state mandated chaos and eldar before them

>>750146919
I suspect Admech also was picked because that army is a bit failing behind some of the others in sales in the tabletop. so they might be banking on DOW players starting to buy them after playing them in the game. A lot of recent games in that franchise had admech related DLC lately

>>750146778
okay come up with a new and never-done-before mechanics then smarty pants so quick to judge you're just a meanie if you ever have children you would just ridicule them whenever they pick up a new hobby and they end up with no self esteem and a couple of other neuroses doomed to be certain that nothing they ever do or come up with will ever be "original"
how about this a game where I pick up a hammer and bash your skull repeatedly then wear your skin we can call it Night Lords Simulator 2026 would you like that? huh???
it's nice to be nice

>>750146890
It's a Dark Crusade campaign.

>>750145342
I would play that warframe clone every day.

>>750145342
sorry it should say jetbike not jetpack

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>>750147110
well maybe they shouldnt make the models cost an arm and a leg then
a squad of three of these fuckers is 180 out of the 2000 points you need for an army and everything else is just about as terrible
thank god i paint for fun and not for actually playing 40k

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The game is utter dogshit
t. dow1 and dow2 veteran, skipped dow3 after the beta.
And beware of shills, every single youtuber/influencer that can divulge material has been paid to do a positive ad, while hiding bugs and the poor gameplay decisions, this game needs 2 more years of dev time as it stands.

>>750147367
Speaking of painting, aren't they also super difficult to paint? So not only they are hard to play but even to build and super expensive.
It's like an army only for rich people or people obsessed on the hobby. Which is really not the kind of stuff bought by newcomers.

>>750141027
actually excited for this game and hope it isnt a pile of shit. excited to play the horde defense mode thing with friends like co-op

>>750146890
I read that the campaign will have 70 missions

>>750147136
>meanie
Are you a child?

>>750141027
the campaign story looks like is going to be shit and is specifically made to sell models, mind you that i don't mind if GW wants use any chance to sell their overpriced plastic, but this looks like it was handcrafted with that as the main motivator, with little regards about the story being good

>>750141027
>First DoW with no Eldar
>It's actually great
Who would've thought?

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>>750147482
dunno about how hard they are to play but painting them is certainly more difficult because they have a lot of extra little bits like tubes, gauges, antennas, etc etc.
i fucked up while painting my rust stalkers and had their legs painted different colors based on joints, pistons, etc because im stupid and my beginner self thought it was heresy to have pieces share the same color and DARE to be adjacent to eachother.
if / when i paint more of these ninjas i am NOT doing that again lmao.
whole limbs get copper now, fuck you

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>>750145342
>Hitman but in 40k
>40k stealth game
>Instead of using Eldar like Striking Scorpions and Rangers or a fucking ASSASSINORUM fucking marines
never post again

>>750146918
There's not a lot of RTS GAMES anymore. If you want to play an RTS your only real options are decades old shit.
I think DoW4 and TW40k are different enough to not step on each other's toes, and I can't obviously speak for anyone else, but I have no interest in TW40k at all.

>>750148232
this is true for every piece of warhammer 40k media

>>750148397
Nobody gives a fuck about Eldar and the Assassins are too hyper-focused into certain niches. Phobos Marines have a much wider variety of tools and weapons they can use.

>>750147367
I own 13 chickens, nine ironstriders and 4 dragoons
only one is 3d printed

>>750148471
>I think DoW4 and TW40k are different enough
They aren't, dow4 won't even have a ladder or ability to replay your games a.k.a a casting system, which burns the bridge of the "competitive esport" game instantly, which leaves us with the casual roleplay game, TW had a much larger roster, better battle and outside of battle system, with a lot more roleplay-galactic conquest potential than dow4, this game is fucking doomed.

>>750141027
>having the company that made a shitty coh knockoff make a dow

Eh... you guys can have this one. I have warhammer fatigue.

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>>750148604
>Nobody gives a fuck about Eldar
clearly wrong else Exodites wouldn't be scalped to hell and back, despite being in an overpriced box, with shitty snaggaz nobody buys and no terrain

Phobos were basically abandoned since 8th Editions and their specialized units have fraction of content Assassins have

>>750147218
No that mode isn't even in at launch

>>750148652
Realistically DoW4 has the time until TW40K releases
It was a good idea for them to focus on cinematic campaign since nobody will play their Crusade mode when they will have tailor made sandbox TW40K for that

>>750148772
>Exodites
Kill team releases that don't have Marines are intentionally stocked low, anon. Nobody was scalping shitty dinosaur Elves.

>>750148652
DoW4 is also an RTS while TW40k is a Total War game.
They're not actually the same thing.

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>>750148632
magnetize those guns girlie

>>750148872
You don't know what you are talking about

>>750148835
The problem stems from the fact that they mostly marketed dow4 as a 1v1 game, when it has 0 support for that and is quite frankly a bad pvp game, I'm sure the co-op campaign and last stand will be at the very least decent if not good but they have shown 0 of that, from a game that was supposed to release 1 month ago and was pushed back to the third of december, they clearly aren't confident in what they made and I understand that, because the basic gameplay is dogshit.

>>750148604
>Nobody gives a fuck about Eldar
I do.

>>750148604
>Nobody gives a fuck about
anything but muhreens so we can't make anything not about muhreens so nobody gives a fuck about anything but muhreens so we can't...

>>750148772
>Exodites
God that box was criminal. I hope their individual release apart from the shitty orks comes soon

>>750148994
40k is the setting about Space Marines, anon. Any product release that is not Space Marines are inherently stocked less than releases that are Space Marines, since Space Marines make up more than half of 40k's ENTIRE PROFIT.
Do you think they did Exodites becausecof fan demand? No, they did it to provide filler between the Deathwatch release and the Legion of the Damned release, because they knew people were unlikely to care about Exodites. Hence why they were put with the shitty Beastsnaggas that GW can't get rid of; since anyone who DID buy the Exodites paid more than double the individual price AND helped clear out storage being used for the Ork subfaction nobody has ever liked.
>>750149043
And you're nobody.
>>750149152
Correct. Marines are the reason 40k exists. Without Marines, 40k would not exist. Xenos literally do not matter, and GW could flat out remove them and it wouldn't dent their profits too badly.

>>750149341
No, I'm Anonymous. Learn to read, idiot.

>>750148830
Mmm, yes it is? Game got delayed.

https://youtu.be/looanXFCb_k?t=84

>>750149582
My bad. Must have looked away for that moment when I watched the trailer

>>750149341
>GW could flat out remove them and it wouldn't dent their profits too badly.
Retarded, if gw removed them then the marines wouldn't have anyone to job to them and everyone, most of all marinetimmies, would leave

They aren't going to remove any factions at this stage of the franchise.

Xenosfaggots need to calm down.

>>750149893
counterpoint
demons are very likely close to the chopping block; don't even have a book anymore..

>>750148187
im 32 sit down zoomie
>>750148397
>eldar
boring
>ass norum
boring
muhreens are king baby

>>750141027
>Unity
it's gonna run like absolute shit when there is more than 3 units on the screen

>>750149781
>then the marines wouldn't have anyone to job to them
All you need are Chaos enemies. Secret Level, Space Marines 2, and Horus Heresy proved that.

new game idea: planescape torment but in the years leading up to the heresy, Davin, Cadia and all that

>>750148604
>Nobody gives a fuck about eldar

Yet they've been in the game since first edition and have never been squatted, curious...

>>750148772
I wanna have sex with the assassins...

>>750149893
The only people ever talking about removing factions are marinefags though.

>>750150767
Callidus would be the only one where you might survive the encounter. You haven't been badmouthing the Emperor lately have you?

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>>750149341
> Any product release that is not Space Marines are inherently stocked less than releases that are Space Marines, since Space Marines make up more than half of 40k's ENTIRE PROFIT.
Not only you do not know what you are talking about, it's not even relevant to the topic
>Do you think they did Exodites becausecof fan demand
yes
>. Hence why they were put with the shitty Beastsnaggas that GW can't get rid of; since anyone who DID buy the Exodites paid more than double the individual price AND helped clear out storage being used for the Ork subfaction nobody has ever liked.
Yes anon. Which is why your logic if faulty. Which is why they put long demanded, hype Exodites in to sell them, because they knew those Eldar will sell this box as opposed to random spectre squad or shit like this
> Xenos literally do not matter, and GW could flat out remove them and it wouldn't dent their profits too badly.
It would, they are more popular than Chaos after all. Which is why various Xenos are in starter boxes and why more and more Xeno armies are being made
>750150348
chaos is forgotten since 8th edition and outright hated in SM2 which was sold on Tyranids

>>750150348
>Horus Heresy
>Marines vs marines ad infinitum

Yeah I'd rather GW go out of business and take the entire hobby with them than play that trashfire.

>>750150159
That wouldn't be a removal though. It would be Chaos faction overhaul and they would be simply merged into Monogod armies.

>>750151021
>Marines vs marines ad infinitum
If you were a truautist you wouldn't mind this, poser. Also people who use the word "hobby" are reddit.

I think this debate is not on the same wavelength. Some people read the entire Black Library and are primarily interested in the MM action (Marine on Marine). If you are into painting and rolling the dice naturally you will gravitate towards more factions.
I am right and this is not up for discussion.

>>750151080
>thing that pre-dates the existence of reddit by millenia is reddit

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>>750151241
well yeah, that's why HH is not popular

>>750151409
Calling your area of interest a "hobby" is reddit because it is mainly redditors that do so. You don't see roidheads calling lifting a barbell a hobby.
>DYELs are impacting the quality of the hobby.
Statement declared by no one ever.
My passion is birdwatching, I am an amateur ornithologist.
>Stray cats are a threat to the hobby.
Nigger, please.

>>750151501
You are arguing apples against steppe megafauna, what is the point of your post? To point out that 40k minis top the product market? You could go to the most remote village in Patagonia and ask the resident village idiot and he (or she) would know that.
Now excuse me, I will play Boltgun and then read The Last Son of Prospero by Chris Wraight (praise be upon Him) before sleep.

>>750141027
It looks mediocre as fuck. I wonder what kind of slav curse someone put on Relic, because it makes no sense that DoW 3 was shat on by the same morons who can't wait for DoW 4

>preset cover pieces, just like in DoW 3
>much worse animations, everything is tiny
>vehicles literally glide to the side whenever they bump into things they would need to drive around
>voice acting is awful
>blob and attack move gameplay
>all space marine vehicles are magically gliders now, to save money on animations
>once again the imperial guOH SORRY I MEAN THE ASSTRALIUM MILITARUM is practically ready to go but will get held back as DLC

>>750150929
I do not need to survive the encounter, I just need to climax.

>>750150953
>That chart
Anon, that's a chart for competitive games played and tracked on an army building app. And hilariously enough Marines aren't a super competitive army, so them being ahead by that far even THEN is funny especially when yoy also consider thar info is from 10th, and the two most recent Starter Sets at that ppint were wirh Marines facing Nids and Necrons respectively, which is the only reason those two are that high to begin with since people will buy the Starter for Marines and just keep the opposing army as a side piece.

they should write a novel about siege of terra where the protagonist is a chopped incel and hes so mf ugly and awkward that they dont let him in the imperial palace when everyone is taking refuge there and he gets sliced 6 million times by some random world eater
would you read this
oh and the first rumors of the heresy break he goes nothing ever happens and then as he takes his final breath he utters
>something... something has happened...

I was mega hyped for the game, but the more gameplay I see the more skeptic I get.
There's just something that looks off about it. Everything looks so small, and everything looks so empty

How do xenos fans cope with the fact that each individual Primarch gets more love and attention than entire xenos factions?

>>750151962
>all space marine vehicles are magically gliders now
blame GW for replacing the classic vehicles with shitty gliders

>>750152949
I don't care, but I care about them picking admech as a starting faction and not in a third or fourth expansion wave where they belong.

>>750152018
>that's a chart for competitive games played
Nope, it's for all games, both casual and tournaments. Because everyone can use this app. It's not a data gathered from tournaments only. There is no better way to check faction popularity in tabletop than this

>>750152949
Explain
Guilliman got a model almost a decade ago
And there is also Lion nobody remembers

Eldar Corsairs alone got more love and attention to them
Fucking Snaggas Boyz got more

>>750153380
Ferrus, the least popular Primarch who is beat known for dying first, has more fan art and fan hype than each individual xenos faction.
The reason GW spaces out Primarch releases is due to the fact they sell more than any other characters.

>>750151962
>much worse animations
They are better though
>blob and attack move gameplay
That's why people like DoW1
>all space marine vehicles are magically gliders now, to save money on animations
Lmao no. All marine vehicles are like this because this is how Primaris vehicles look like for a decade already. It has nothing to do with DoW4 at all, in any way whatsoever
Animations are the one thing they are not trying to save on

IG always ends up in a dlc. It just makes sense.

DoW3 was killed by marketing. They had no idea that merely mentioning MOBA will have such an aggressive reaction from RTS crowd. Nothing about this game was relevant beyond that. This single word killed it and all RTS players wrote it off on that basis alone, without even trying it. Having one less faction than previous games looked bad too and backflipping Gabriel killed any attention that was left because it didn't feel 40k to 40kfags, all other units be damned
Nobody actually played it to complain about it's design, best case scenario people try to bring up some half remembered meme complaint someone, somewhere posted once and they try to repeat it. It died because nobody bought it to begin with due marketing. That was the curse, using word "MOBA" once even. Gay Krauts have better marketing so they will succeed

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>Iron Harvest devs
Nope, shit sucks.

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>>750141027
There is so much 40Kslop coming out in the next months and i'm going to eat it all.

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>>750153743
>Ferrus, the least popular Primarch who is beat known for dying first, has more fan art and fan hype than each individual xenos faction.
You are blatantly wrong
>The reason GW spaces out Primarch releases is due to the fact they sell more than any other characters.
Characters do not sell well in tabletop in general. Only characters which sell are Ultramarines in general because they are the most popular sub faction within the most popular faction
tl;dr in order to buy character like Guilliman
>You have to start Marines
>You have to start Ultramarines in particular
>This will mean you are locked out of other Chapters, their units and characters
>Yes, this means that if you are getting Guilliman you will never get Lion or any other Primarch
>You have to choose him over any other HQ like other character or a customizable generic
>If you do, you will ever only buy him once as opposed to generic units
This gets worse and worse the further player is away from Ultramarines. Which is why Ultramarines get so many characters, it's the only place where it's actually worth it to make them. Other loyalists are from the get go outcompeted by Guilliman
This is why Primarchs and other named characters like Farsight have to be forced into boxes to move their stock. Fucking Fulgrim is selling so badly he was few times bundled. Lion is not much better.

The main advantage of named characters is marketing via giving fuel to sloptubers shitting out lore videos about thus keeping 40k popular in web, constantly raising awareness of it. Not to sell their models. They don't, it's a calculated waste

This is also why it wasn't GW idea to make Nazrdeg btw. It was CA asking them to do that because they needed LL for 2nd Ork sub faction for a secondary medium which are video games where characters actually sell.
Same thing will happen to Eldar where Biel Tan or other Craftworld will get a character suddenly who will also show up in TW40k

i like to imagine my own chapter and its heraldry and colors and battle tactics and war chant and lore before sleep :)

I hope blood ravens get a mini or at least special rules like they did for the chaplain and judiciar

>>750154056
No, if you want to boil it down to a single issue (which it wasnt), it would be the hideous presentation. It was even a bit tragic, so much effort in service of a repulsive end result.
The mobashit was just something to latch onto after people (rightfully) wrote it off after that gameplay reveal with Gabriel. Then when people lile me actually tried the game out, it was underwhelming to be polite, and it needed to be amazing to make up for everything else.

>>750148471
there’s plenty but they’re eurojank (like dow4)

>>750155365
>Same thing will happen to Eldar where Biel Tan or other Craftworld will get a character suddenly who will also show up in TW40k
You're getting Eldrad and Yriel and that's final.

>>750141027
it's not saving anything
it's not going to even save the IP is it's gameplay doesn't go closer to the first game

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>>750142570
>Both players just blob all their units into a chokepoint until one side folds.

Wow... incredible gameplay.

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>>750156680
Nope. You can even screencap this post if you wish. Yriel WONT be in a base game.

He is tied to Corsair subfaction, on top of being a hype venerable OG 40k named character. As such he is a DLC bait for Eldar Corsairs subfaction with a dedicated model range. Which is guaranteed to happen as a Lord Pack for Eldar. Same as Harlequins, Exodites, Mymeara and others. Eldar are after all faction with one of the biggest rosters in game
They will make another named character for Eldar to lead 2nd Craftworld subfaction in TW40k. Most likely revealed alongside Eldar codex for 11th edition.

Deldar are getting 11th edition codex next year alongside first part of their refresh. Kabal refresh, bitchless Vect with monsters, (we know all of this already), deldar are hinted to be enemies in 12th starter box in 3 years
Aeldari codex may as well come with a pity hero around Deldar. Eldar got so many releases recently it's insane, getting a pity hero as a stop gap before 1st Exodite subfaction separate release for latter part of 11th edition (we know it's coming as well) would make sense
This is also we haven't seen anything about Eldar in TW. They will be showcased around Eldar codexes reveals. Just like Nazrdeg was alongside Ork reveals

Nigger

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>>750141027
looks meh, how the fuck do these games look stylistically worse than DoW2 from 2011
40k total war looks ass too

yeah, i'm thinking SNEED

>>750160512
Unless that is repeatable consistently and without meaning to, then its just an anomaly, every game has bugs.

>>750160512
Sound design has also been strangely lackluster compared to back then. Even in the dedicated 40k edition trailers, melee sounds like pots & pans, guns sound like airsoft. It's maddening to me, is everyone involved deaf?

>>750160512
I give this one a bit of leeway because it's basically an alpha, we've seen what they can do with all the individual model animations in a unit in warhammer total war. Now if it still looks like this during pre-release, I'll be hard avoiding it.

I’m surprised they haven’t really done any 30k/horus heresy games except a few throw away mobile and card games.

>>750160512
>oh my god the alpha isn't silky smooth, it's ovveeerrrrrr!

faggot

>>750161793
>no placeholder for the shooting animation
>which could have just been an animation from a previous game imported
it's bellow alpha, it's tech demo tier

>>750150929
oh come on, you'd live through vanus sex, they're all nerds

>>750161793
t. retard

>>750155365
Who the fuck is Nazdreg and what did he do? Is the other LL Ghazkull?

>>750145342
>White Scars jetpack racing but like Twisted Metal
Was the ork one not enough for you?

>>750161793
I would agree but

>creative assembly

>>750150953
Don't bother. You are talking to the resident subhuman marinefag autist on /v/ that has irrational hatred of the Eldar and starts shitting up threads whenever they are even mentioned. He is convinced that the Eldar should be removed from 40k and that they don't fit the setting etc type of autistic retardation.

>>750163782
But GorkaMorka never released properly! It's just some fucking demo! Next you'll ask why Eldarfags complain about not having an action game made for them when there are still cool vidya magazine articles about the unreleased Aspect Warrior.

>>750163838
you act like fantasy 1-2-3 weren't great. Yes, 3 had a dogshit launch and it needed patching, but the games have all been great. 40k TW will be the same.

>>750146890
they stated the game will have around 40ish missions where you play as all factions

>>750164259
1 was the only good one, 2 and 3 are complete shitpiles, 3 is especially bad in every aspect.

>>750164119
The best game genre for Eldar would be dating sim VN

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>>750165487
Make it an actual game with VN scenes somewhere in it and I might consider it.

Dead thread
Dead setting

>>750164915
I disagree because chorfs.

>>750150159
I'm surprised they ever tried to make them a separate faction army at all. They never made nearly enough Daemons for variety and as it stands the asshole of Terror is basically nothing but flying monkies that isn't a Chaos God realm.

>>750147482
All GW minis are hard to paint, some factions are easier to paint like Spess Mehreens/Tau but they're still a challenge especially if you've never seriously held a paintbrush in your life

The Youtubers/GW community articles make them look easy to paint but they're not

There's also the modelling aspect, while GW minis are easy to assemble they're not babby tier mode like Gunpla or even building Legos

This is why all newcomers should hop on Ebay and buy used armies from newcomers who instantly quit the hobby, the paint can be stripped easily with thinner and any dishwashing soap+water

>>750168239
It's 1 o clock in the morning.

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>>750147136
kek

>>750160994
Its the same for shitty gunfire in every shooter for the past decade.
>We cant have loud gunshots or sharp melee hits, don't want to fatigue players ears :^)
>so the sound director balances the mix for gamers who explode their car stereos and go deaf by 30

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You play as the Guard in the prologue but man I want Chaos as the first DLC.

>>750141027
>no tau
shant

>>750147461
>posts a random image
>props up conspiracy
>doesnt explain the reason for his opinions at all
Very believable post, nigger.

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I wanted to get into the beta so bad
I just wanted to spam CRABS and I haven't even seen anyone talk about them yet in their gameplay

>>750171186
That's not a random image you retarded shill, that's my own beta invite

I had low expectations for this from the start, but they dropped to absolute zero when I watched a preview video and it said that tech was going to be free. how the fuck do these retards who don't understand the first thing about rts keep getting put in charge of making new rts games?

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>>750171892
>nooo pls just keep making the same game over and over again in my dead genre :(

>>750171979
>nooo don't tell me not to build a car with square wheels I'm trying to innovate

>>750171892
It way worse than that, there's 0 mechanics in the game, no suppression, no morale, there aren't even artillery units, you can just call the off map one with your tertiary resource (red).
Basically there is no punishment for blobs and no way to crowd control.

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>>750148342
Lovely skitts
These are mine, yeah they have a lot of details

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>>750171892
>>750171979
>>750172156
Anyone that played Iron Harvest knows they don't have a fucking idea about what makes an RTS engaging or boner inducing
And it's not just the spectacle but the indepth mechanics that they get

>>750172493
I played iron harvest years ago, I didn't finish it and sure as fuck I didn't touch the mp, mostly due to how bad the pathing was and generally clunkyness of the game, it felt like coh2 but much worse, dow4 is much much worse than that and I've played it for 13 hours so far.

>>750170684
I really hope we can reskin our guard as valhallans or vostroyans. Please don't let it just be 20 flavors of cadians in flak.

>>750172126
you're a fuckin newfag who has played only one rts.

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>>750172609
>oh my goodness it's so hecking bad
>how?
>well... let's just say... it's worse than iron harvest ;)

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the more I see of this game, the less I want to play it

>>750172554
supcom's biggest failure is the crappy artillery

@750173449
well why don't you ask questions you retarded 70 IQ faggot?

>>750157338
That's what all the drooling retard RTS players who loved DoW 1 wanted

select all + m1 enemy base
that is LITERALLY what they want RTS to be (note: they do not actually buy this type of game)

>>750174686
Sure but you can also look at mid to high lvl dow1 games and see there's actually strategy involved, dow1 is also quite infamous for having lots of blob disruption, just the basic grenade launcher of the guardmen was cancer to deal with and did a lot of knockback, there's load of artillery, vehicles and other stuff that does AoE that disincentivize blobbing and A-move in DoW1, none of that exists in DoW4.

>>750142570
Looks neat desu

>>750141027
>developed by the Iron Harvest devs
YIKES, those guys are even more retarded than Relic, this is going to be awful.

>>750174196
That's BAR i think

Is boltgun 2 any good