>5 shit games in a row>we avoided a 6th shit gameThe death of this canadian dev company is a victory for gamers and if you feel bad for them you are probably 41%ing yourself soon.
>get bought by USA Jews>forced to Troon out hate to see it
literally none of their games are good
>circle all that but miss tortanicgb2r
>>750157032Not even just TOR, Dragon Age II was the worst game of the year, fact checked by real /v/ patriots.They hadn't made a decent game since 2010 at the latest.the fucking costanza meme hadn't even been born yet.
>>750157032>le 'tanic guize we heckin did it we r legionTOR was an unstable mess on release but it was a fun time and now has some of the best plotlines and characters in star wars (not a high bar, but still)
>>750157032>include TOR but then leave out fucking DA2 above itholy secondary
>>750157032>SWTOR has outlived Bioware
>>750156715No circle was needed, all of those were shitshows. ME1 was their last game worth a damn.
god almighty look at that stretch of pure shit after ME2. no other dev got so many second chances.
>>750157182DA2 is unforgivably shit. The general idea was cool, a plot spanning years inside a city and its immediate environs. But the city was tiny, the characters were dogshit, and there were maybe 4 unique "dungeon maps" in the game and it'd block off random paths or make you travel through backwards.Holy fuck, I'm still mad.
>>750156715>Dragon Age 2 was goodNo. It was shit.
I wouldn't call Inquisition shit.
>>750156715>a victorydev shutting down isn't a victory, it's a message for other devs to not try. You'll be making threads in ten years wondering why they don't make these types of games anymore, not realizing you chose this future. 2014 onwards were all bad games that I didn't bother playing, and now there's no chance to improve
>>750156715Damn almost 2 decades of shit. How could they survive so long?
>>750156715Old Republic and DA2 were shit as well.Personally I would call ME2 disappointment but deranged people love it.Bioware was dead the moment EA acquired it.
Which Bioware character are you most sad to see go? Getting the obvious one out of the way.
>>750157514>You'll be making threads in ten years wondering why they don't make these types of games anymore>these types of gamesNah, not anything from Bioware in the last 15 years, minimum. The talent that made the shit worth remembering was long gone.
>>750156715I'm seeing 8 shit games in a row
>>750157412I would. Melee classes were impossible to play because your attack range was 2 inches - if an enemy took a step in any direction you were interrupted and had to wait for your character to re-apply their nipples to the enemy's before taking another swing. Entirely unremarkable soundtrack, tumblr writing, awful environment design which highlights the worst aspects of the rise of needless open worlds in games, a facebook game-style minigame of waiting for timers to pass on side missions, largely awful companions, bringing Leliana back and turning her into a raging dyke.The only time the game actually felt something approaching fun was in the online co-op, the classes there were far better designed than the campaign's. Unfortunately you were still playing Inquisition, with all the quirks that entails.
Inquisition was okay though.
I hope they remove the Bioware logos and intros from Tortanic.Full erasure.
>>750157183nigger no one fucking caresthe game was literally the first flop
>>750157347to be desu in hindsight even their older games were not very good. The BG games get sucked off a lot but the gameplay side of them is pretty bad, tons of trash encounters and no concept of balance, the worst possible mixture of AD&D cruft and casualization, RTWP just being a shitty relic of that era in general. Cheesy romance subplots as well. BG2 is definitely overrated as one of those "classic" games praised by people who never played it too, the first one is better. NWN overrated by people who just remember mods. This shit was in 2008 btw, predates Dragon Age.
>>750157621The disapproval dogfucking girl, maybe.
>>750157873>the game was literally the first flopYeah, high profile flops like E.T. or Daikatana never happened before TOR.
>>750157769It was a blight, sorry about the pun, to the Dragon Age series. I hate to say it but it was the most "reddit" of the three. Also somehow they had Cassandra look hot as hell in 2 and then all not as good in Inquisition. Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 were the last good Biowares before the compromises.
>>750158102games get more people over time
>>750156715anthem was a fuckin disaster
>>750157183SWTOR was and is a bad game, the fact that Disney made Star Wars shit itself to death after it came out doesn't make it good.
>>750156715I wish Canada wasn't woke. I hate this country sometimes.
>>750158947Woah there, pal. Let's not be hateful, or we'll have to take you from your house and send ya to jail. We don't want any Nazis in Canada
I could almost forgive them if it was 5 shit games over the course of 14ish years. None of those games should've taken that long of a dev time and is the true reason for their failing, not the woke bullshit.
>>750156715All the issues started with the hostile takeover by EA. Why arent you directing hate towards them?
>>750157897It's an oddly charming game thoughI can't say it's good but I did enjoy playing it. Peak dogshit soundtrack thohttps://youtu.be/6o47N-aYd08
>>750156715>Leftoids will take a look at the recent series of flops, or at best passable games and tell you straight to the face that what happened to Bioware is unjust and this is all the fault of EA, greedy capitalism, the Saudis and Trump It's amazing that these people have no concept of free market. If they proved themselves to be a studio that kept on making banger after banger, they would not be in this situation, or at least some other publisher might have been interested in buying them out. But nah, leftoids will make you believe this is the same people that made all those legacy IPs and that EA, and EA alone brought their demise.
>>750159939I mean EA are the ones who forced them to de-RPG ME2 and rush DA2 out the door in like 12 months. And forced DAI and Andromeda to use Frostbite.
>>750156715Ah yes TORtanic and Dragon Age 2, definitely not bad games.
>>750159939>It's amazing that these people have no concept of free market.To be fair, before the shuttering nothing about standard free market behavior has applied to Bioware for the past decade. They had defied all reason and logic with their continued existence.
>>750157390The sad part about DA2 is that it maybe could have been good if it wasn’t rushed, in that case EA factually made them pump out the game at utterly ridiculously short dev time.Which of course doesn’t excuse the fact that ME3 was a clear step down from ME1&2 and Inquisition was just lukewarm as fuck. And for anything beyond that, it gets irredeemably bad.
>>750160031>EA are the ones who forced them to de-RPG ME2Another pox on EA. I knew something was wrong with ME2 after playing it for a few hours. One of the few games I walked away from in disgust.
>>750156715lol
>>750157032I lived, bitch. Whose dead and whose still alive? 15 years and running.
>>750160031Still, Andromeda’s greatest failing was its completely soulless writing, and engine had nothing to do with it. I’d even argue that the gameplay in it was surprisingly good (the shooting, not the pacing or quest design), but it all was for naught when there was zero Mass Effect atmosphere left.
>>750160819If you count DAO as meh, Neverwinter Nights is definitely a meh too. After Baldurs Gate is was especially disappointing
>>750160954maybe he likes the expansions and the fanmade modules
>>750160954nah fuck offnwn was good
Mass Effect 2 was a decline in quality compared to the first
>>750157182Word
>>750160840I enjoyed it but I wouldn't exactly call it alive. Dungeon content is all level scaled poorly and planet content scales you down so you never get to enjoy your character's growth, the market is entirely fucked six ways to sunday, and they had to bring back Malgus because they didn't have a compelling antagonist to propel the plot after Eternal Throne crashed and burned.
>>750161101actually playing ME1 feels like pulling teeth. removing the garbage overheat mechanic was the second best idea they had in the whole franchise after biotic explosions
>>750160031>And forced DAI and Andromeda to use Frostbite.If only they let them continue using Unreal Engine they would have been smash hits.
>>750156715ME2 is worse than 3 though
how lax the games industry has gotten.in gen 7 you could rarely get away with 2 bad games in a row.
>>750161403forcing DAI onto Frostbite fucked it up massively
>>750161641The answer is investors.Gaming went mainstream after 2010 at an increasing rate, which meant an increasing amount of money flowing in, which meant they could stay standing without direct profit as long as they could bullshit the investor.Then the Blackrock cunts realized that gaming is actually a really strong cultural driver and started dictating marching orders to companies and propping them up with endless amount of dosh regardless of performance.
>>750161742How so?
>>750161826You're confusing investing in stocks (like Blackrock does) with direct investment in companies (like venture capitalists do).
>>750156715>ME3bad story but plays better than 2>DAI halfway decent game buried under too much open bullshittery. better than 2 but not close to origins. should've circled basically every game in that list honestly, they're all different flavors of bad, with the rest being worse than the two I've singled out
>>750160819>DA:O as midHow can a single nigger being so absolutely correct.
>>750161909>fucked up the aesthetics (everyone is greasy)>fucked up the gameplay (apparently Bioware was too fucking retarded to make healing spells work on Frostbite so they had to do the bizarre shield/block system, could only do 8 slots for abilities even on PC)
>>750161641I feel like it used to be more forgiving, no? If you put out a couple of flops you could come back next year with another game. Now if you make 2 shitty games that's like 10 years worth of feces.
>>750157873Even in MMO flops Age of Reckoning did it first
>>750156715I have a bad feeling, Insomnisisters...
>>750156715Veilguard was a massive success tho, just like AssShadows Yasuke edition
Seven shit games in a row, DA2 was ass and tortanic too
>>750157347And don't forget Anthem
>>750156715What was so bad about Inquisition?
>>750160756It was originally meant to be a DLC/expansion for Origins, called Exodus but it was also around the time Witcher 2 came out and mindbroke Bioware, everyone was seething and sperging in their forums, many threads locked and ding dong bannus
>>750157412They tried to make it better than 2 which wasn't a high bar. Tried to emulate Skyrim (dragons, free roam) and Witcher (titties and more detailed armor) but ended up with a single player MMO with mobile quests
>>750156715Video Games have got to be only industry that feels comfortable throwing billions of dollars around just to appeal to a very tiny subset of their customer base while publicly reviling the customers who make them money. Why is this?
>people replying in their post on xitter>"12 years since the mid game">"14 years since the last good one"these niggers seriously think cisquisition was okay and ME3 was good?brother, dragon age 2 was already massive downgrade from 1
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>>750157621You posted her. I love Tali so much it is unreal.
>>750156715But now we get Mass Effect(ive immediately) 4: Layoffs
>>750161059Carried by mods harder than Skyrim. Base game is plagued with broken controls, quests that bug out more often than not, AI running 300ft away to chase a rat in the middle of combat, and most of it was never fixed even years later.
>only 5 shit gamesretarded biodrone
>>750162902Sera walked so that Traash could run down the whole thing
>>750162890Competent business people go into other sectors. Video games is still a relatively young industry the reputation is seen as childish to the larger world. You're more likely to get weak faggots who bend the knee to woke developers than hard nosed Logan Roys who are willing to shut them up and demand big titties in games.
to be honest it's miraculous bioware was even still active at all.Anthem was a MASSIVE flop. Inquisition was well reviewed but didn't sell all that well.Andromeda too was huge flop, but not as bad as Anthem.Veilguard wasn't reviewed terribly, but was absolutely mediocre and suffered from the ongoing culture wars.ME3 was successful and honestly my opinion of it isn't even low at all. Still, I wanted to see a new Mass Effect. Bioware should have seen that they weren't capable of it and given it to another studio, but now we're here and it's a dead IP for good and it just sucks. So much wasted potential. Mass Effect deserved to be a much bigger franchise.
>>750162902I did not see nothing wrong with her. Might be retarded, but nothing wrong, I guess.
>>750157621Tali and Garrus, no contest.These two were part of my team for years, wife and the best bro.I guess we wouldn't have seen them in a new ME game anyways due to the time jump.But at least there was a chance.
>>750163071Sera at least had a nice naked body (you can only see this if you romance her).
>>750161641Gen 7 only started getting really bad toward the end with shit like Dead Space 3 tanking Visceral. It was getting worse throughout, but I would say 2007 and 2012 were years with different standards.
>>750156715ME3 and DA:I were good though. I didn't get far in Andromeda, but it wasn't grabbing me after 3 hours, so fair. I didn't play the other two.
>>750156715ME3 and DA:I weren't as good as the previous entries but they weren't shit just yet.
Which of the dragon age games are worth playing? I never tried any of them
>>750164876The first one. DA2 is god awful. Apparently the third one is less bad but I never played it. And obviously the fourth is infamous.
>>750164876Origins and you might as well stop there, 2 and inquisition can be OK if you severely lower your expectations
>>750164982>Apparently the third one is less bad but I never played itI did. It's boring as fuck.
>>750156715to be fair me3 had both terrible and great things, and inquisition had trespasser which was great
>>750156715but that's 8 shit games in a row
>>750156715me3 isnt a bad game, just the ending is complete ass
>>750164876None. WRPGs are never worth playing
>>750156715looks more like 10 shit games in a row
>>750162959man, been a whilei don't remember it being that fucked up control wise, though yeah, community support was outstandingi still keep my opinion, it was good
>inquisition>badit was the 2nd best dragon age you cum guzzler whore and i fucking hate veilguard for what it did to my inquisitor
>>750164876none
>>750165931lol k
>>750156715The only middling game in that list was ME2. The rest were just straight up bad.
>>750165931>it was the 2nd best dragon age2nd best diarrhea poop damn
>>750164876If you can stomach Origins, you can stomach until Inquisition. 2 might give you whiplash with how much asset reusing they do though.
>>750166006>best selling dragon age>literally goty>"l-lol k..."everytime. keep smoking cocks
>>750156715I'm seeing 8 shit games in a row.Bioware's last game was Mass Effect 1, nothing has felt like a Bioware game after that.Whatever was left of Bioware's corpse was dragged for years to make dumbed down oversimplified bioslop from nu bioshit, and the blame is entirely on them, not EA.
>>750156715What about the other 3 shit games above?
>>750157897>BG2 is definitely overrated as one of those "classic" games praised by people who never played it tooIt was fun at the time but basically made obsolete by the Pathfinder games. There's really no reason to play BG1 + 2 now except for nostalgia.
>>750156715I see eight shit games in a row there.
>>750162596>includes anthem>doesn't include Jade EmpireShit like this is why bioware is gone.
>>750157032Ironically enough TOR getting taken away from Bioware in 2023 probably was a big contribution to the studio closing, it gave them a baseline level of subscriber income they could rely on.>TORtanic outlived the company that made it
>>750156715>Mass Effect 2 (2010)
>>750159939just imagine if Visceral could afford to fuck up 3 (three) times in a row like Bioware did
>>750162891games are so shit the bar's been lowered to hell, making inquisition look good in retrospect
>>750164876OriginsMaybe, it may not hold up as the industry has advanced so parts may be a bit slow, or poorly made by the standards of todayNot 2 (awful writing, ruined lore, bad environs, okay characters)Not Inquisition (Badly designed, too much wasted time and space, bad characters)Not Veilguard (duh)
ME3 was alright I'd say but all post ME2 is pure garbage. DA2 wasn't even good. All I remember is anders nuking the church or some shit and that red head that I killed last game magically reappearing for no reason right at the end
>>750166945>DA2 wasn't even good.it's complete dogshit lol, that was was memed on /v/ mercilessly for how bad it was
>>750156715>5I see 8 but I know there is even moreBioware was ALWAYS SHIT
>>750164876don't bother, play Baldur's Gate 3 instead
>>750167169I did a while ago, wasn't a big fan outside of the combat gameplay.
>>750156715None of the games above circle are great either zoomie
>>750156715Anthem was EA's fault
>>750156715>TOR outlived not only Bioware but many many live service games
>>7501567153 and Inquisition were still alright in my book
>>750169092It's a Star Wars MMO. It'd be more impressive if it was mismanaged to the point of shutdown, and it arguably almost was.
>>750156715>DOAII>Not shitThe only good dragon age game is origins
>>750169419*DAII ack
