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>PS6 Rumored price
$1000-$1600
>Xbox Penix rumored price
$1200-$1800
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>cheap laptop parts marketed as a "desktop class" PC
nah, valve are scumbags for that alone.
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>>750159316
Apologize for what? It's weaker than a PS5 and Series X.
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>>750159316
This is a good thing because it means my PS5 will be supported for a long ass time because literally no one will have a PS6 and developers know this.
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>>750160863
Brother we'll be lucky if we have internet in 3 years
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>>750160940
>trump bad
he won, get over it
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>>750160858
it still wonned biggerly
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>>750159316
>Black Cube of Saturn
What did Gabe mean by this?
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You know they're going to raise the price of this soon, right?
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>>750160743
are you retarded? its by definition a desktop, and the form factor makes it more portable than a gaymen laptop.
its basically a god tier desktop streaming device, and an emulation device. plus you can use it to watch movies and streaming as well
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>>750160858
Is it really? Why are people buying it then?
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>>750159316
The steam machine can't even run wow forever at full specs and 30fps.
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>>750161627
>wow forever
it cannot run not because of hardware performance but because its designed to prevent you from playing dogshit games
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>>750161381
>its by definition a desktop
It isn't, it is literally using laptop parts.
An RX 7600M and 7640HS CPU with SO-DIMM memory, those are NOT desktop-class parts whatsoever. They are laptop components. Its performance and TDP profile directly reflect this, too; you're getting lower-end gaming laptop performance.
I strongly feel that Valve labelling this as "desktop class" was not only misleading, it was an outright lie.
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I know the simple answer is they're mentally retarded indian nintendo fanboys
But I really don't see what the point of the jannies crying about a gaming pc you ostensibly already need a gaming pc to buy while on and off pretending to be sony and microsoft fanboys like that exists at all at this point.
This shithole sucks
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>>750160858
People will change their minds about Steam machine once they realize that they cant afford the new console, Snoy and Microsoft doesnt release anything particularly good as an exclusive in the future and instead they prepping themselves for the cloud era, will still get their wallets raped from the expensive digital only games from the sony/microsoft markets, and from the subscriptions for online play.
I believe this is why Gayben didnt cancel this cursed release and insisted on releasing it with that pricetag. He bets on people choosing the cheaper alternative in the future that offers more game and media related choices than cutting edge graphics.
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>>750162118
>indian nintendo fanboys
switch isn't even available in india anon
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>>750162213
You don't stop being indian because some other retard decides it's a good idea to let you retards into a different country.
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>>750162337
statistically, there's barely any indian consumers on the nintendo switch platform versus its worldwide marketshare. I would estimate it at fewer than 2% total indians own a nintendo switch, even when taking into account indians living outside of india. India is a playstation nation anon, a quick google will tell you that.
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>>750162337
England is known as India #2 and they've always been ride or die for Playstation. Cope
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>>750159316
I bought it because I wanted a console that isn't the size of your mom which doesn't exist these days. Nogaems 6 is probably going to be the size of a damn suitcase
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>>750159316
I thought PC was the expensive platform? What happened consolesisters?
gas all the kikes bring back affordable hardware
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https://x.com/LarryBundyJr/status/2113336912018829323?s=20

That's cool long as the jailbreak war continues for no reason because GTA6 will be on PC after a few months.
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>>750162808
>bring back affordable hardware
that aint happening anytime soon
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>>750159316
If you buy a 9070 and put it in any old AM4 pc, you will get 3x the performance of the steam machine
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>>750162118

India is snoy town. But you already knew that, stinko.
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>>750160858
it can run current releases, and devs will be hesitant to make more demanding games, because most won't be able to afford a gaystation 6 or a currybox, so min reqs will plateau. It's unironically the best option, and that's not mentioning it actually has games.
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>>750163146
have fun not playing AAA games i guess
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>>750163603
The live service ones?
The sportsball/cowadoody ones?
The ones full to the brim with shitty season passes and celeb crossovers?
The ones with terrible writing?
The ones with fags and trannies preaching in your face?
The ones closing major studios every other week?

I think I'll survive
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>>750162128
The steam machine will be underpowered by the time of the new console generation anyways. It's just going to be a repeat of the steam deck where retards will cope and go
>Uhm it was always meant to be an emulation/retro machine no one wants to play new slop anyways!
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>>750163603
thanks, i will be playing re/decompiled console games on it
even Goytheft Auto 6
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>>750163737
but i played a ton of latest AAA releases on the 'eck
not that any of them were worth it, it can still play like 99% of games
especially now with all the decomps
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>>750161381
>ITS A DESKTOP COMPUTAHHHH SHUT UP!!!!!
Holy Cope
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>>750164201
its still more powerful than your toy tendie
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>>750162875
>few months
few week...few days even
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>valve shills itt conveniently ignoring that next gen consoles will unironically without exaggeration be 10x more performant than the gabe turd
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>>750164140
At least jeet shills on /tv/ are told to not tell blatant lies.
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>>750160858
it has the exact same performance lmao
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>>750165247
im not gonna tell you that they looked amazing, but I played Crimson Desert, Control Resonant, DD2, Witcher 3 Remaster and even Nioh 3
they all ran from 30-50fps
you can cope and seethe all you like but you can check youtube yourself
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>>750163737
I dont think graphics are going to get better natively anyway. We really plateau on that aspect.
The future is DLSS5 AI slop realism coating that 100% of actual high end PCs are unable to run it with playable framerates, and 90% of gaming PCs cant run it at all.
So Im pretty sure the next console generation will be just GTA VI but with 60fps lmao.
On the other hand, retro gaming is seeing a resurgence with all these recompilations. Anything that you have missed or skipped in the past, you can now play it on a pc environment. That was and is the main appeal of Steam Deck and Steam Machine
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>>750165105
those next gen consoles will also have 0 games whilst you have the entire library of every game ever made and even if you cant play 1% of the latest games you have the other 99%
now seethe harder
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but the steamcube has worse specs than the ps5, the ps6 will probably be significantly better
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>>750165478
Now post your settings and how the games actually looks on the deck.
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>>750165609
i already told you they didnt look amazing you seething cuck, most of them ran on low with upscaling and some with frame gen to hit 60fps
didnt bother me for the simple fact that i carried them in my backpack and could play at any time
it rather be able to play them even at low graphics than not play at all
i can max them out on desktop anyways
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>>750164140
>t. pic related
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>>750165562
>The future is DLSS5 AI slop realism
Unfortunately you're probably right, but it bears repeating that the only reason DLSS is a thing is because nVidia is making you pay for tensor cores you otherwise have no use for. If they used that die area for shader cores you'd be getting gen-on-gen improvements to rendering again.
It's why FSR is such a dog on AMD because they have no dedicated silicon for this shit, it's always going to rob performance from traditional rendering making it a total wash in performance.
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>>750165562
I disagree. Graphics won't get noticeably better to the naked eye, but performance hits will continue until morale improves. Do you really think MW4 looks any better than Crysis? Yet it has literally 10x the system requirements.
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>>750165842
brotha why be so disingenuous? this shit is so unoptimized it barely ran on most mid-high range desktops
it is in a better state now, but at launch it wasnt even playable on desktop
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>>750159316
It's also just as readily available to purchase as a xbox helix and ps6
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>>750161381
>the cannibalized laptop i used for a minecraft serve when i was 15 was actually a desktop
whoa... how do indians come up with amazing technology like this??
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next gen sure looks like shit
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>>750165963
It runs fine on my 3060 laptop from 2023. Steam Deck is just severely underpowered.
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>>750165562
Why would I play old games?
Either I already played them or I'm not interested in them.
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>>750166038
you can get 60fps on eck in that dogshit now though....after many updates
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I like my steam machine because I can use it as a PC in my bedroom and it's quiet and runs pretty cool :)
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>Does nothing
Wins
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>>750165894
Do you mean, like for example, something similar to the case of Ace combat 7 and 8? In my eyes AC 7 and 8 pretty much look the same, but AC8 requires ridiculous specs to run. Plus its almost 3 times the size. If you are impying this, then we are pretty much on the same page.
Id rather play a vibecoded recoomp of a game that runs well and its small on size, than a bloated and unoptimized AAA shit game. Im pretty sure lots of people nowadays share the same sentiment. Snoys went nuts when vibesloppers made it possible to play ps3 games on the ps5.
>>750166093
You are making a very rhetorical question. From a different perspective, why would you play modern games that are sanitized, unoptimized, probably woke, and have ideas that old games apply better into their gameplay?
Im pretty sure you didnt play every retro game out there, and Im also sure that you missed out on some actual kino games.
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>>750159316
Still overpriced with shit performance.
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>>750166549
>tries too hard
fails and gets hacked
ftfy
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>>750166105
I can't even imagine playing this on the LCD's blurry ass screen.
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>>750166105
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>750166651
keep moving the goalpost faggot, there is also an OLED version
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>>750166563
Because every few years a good game (or two) is released.
Your retro argument would be good if games as a medium weren't aging like shit - they're not movies. You either played them at the time or within - let's say - 10 year period or they simply weren't worth your attention and definitely aren't now.
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>>750166625
>overpriced
isnt everything?
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>>750160858
So what?
PS5 and Series are plentiful. I could walk or drive to any local store and purchase one

Steam Machine, on the another hand, is scarce, rare, and worth while an expenditure to receive one to my home.

Furthermore, I like the look, the style, the vibe from the Steam Machine. In fact, I would wager that it's more aesthetically pleasing than either the PS5 or Series consoles.
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>>750159316
Put that thing away before Muslims start orbiting it
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>>750167102
No.
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>Because every few years a good game (or two) is released.
Usually that one good game (or two) that you mentioned, comes from AA devs nowadays. Which means that Steam Machine will be able to run it with some minor compromises.
The last AAA game I played and enjoyed was Cyberpunk and that was in 2020.
>games as a medium weren't aging like shit - they're not movies
You are not totally wrong, but you are not totally correct either. Some old games still look good if you can appreciate the artstyle and the time of their actual release. Same can be said about movies; especially those that rely heavily on cgi.
Only if you are a realismfag goy you cant go back.
>You either played them at the time or within
I skipped Bayonetta 2 because I never bothered to buy a modern Nintendo console. I still look forward to play it. And yes, Bayo 2 still looks good as fuck.
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>>750167630
>Some old games still look good if you can appreciate the artstyle and the time of their actual release.
nta but as someone that was obsessed with graphical fidelity in games growing up i have started to enjoy graphics from old games like Morrowind, Guild Wars 1, Dark Messiah, Fable, etc. a lot more, its like your imagination just activates and fills in the missing parts and they also do have a fuckton of charm
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>>750168141
Is also visual clarity. Games look like movies these days; all that complex geometry, the multiple light sources, and the over abundance of props, makes it hard for your eyes to absorb everything on a scene.
Old games have a simpler geometry that allowed to you instantly decode what your eyes see and what to do next.
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>>750168791
Not to mention that the entire polygon budget went to the characters and the 2 or 3 interactable things on-screen
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Nobody wants this fuckshit.
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>>750159316
That stupid piece of shit costs the bottom range of the PS6 while offering 1/4th the performance, and is missing countless features that developers use as a crutch.
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>>750159316
>see steam machine price
>spend ~$500 and some repurposed hardware
>install bazzite
It's not as sleek or as portable as a steam machine but it's more powerful and a fuck of a lot cheaper
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>>750166563
>Do you mean, like for example, something similar to the case of Ace combat 7 and 8?
I do. Graphics have plateaued and yet system requirements somehow get worse and worse as file sizes increases. It's baffling really. And this is why I think the steam machine is going to be in a bad spot come the next gen. Vidya has literally never "plateaued".
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>>750166760
No one is moving any goalpost. That still looks like dogshit (instead of freshly wet dogshit), but if you're okay with that then it just proves my point. Deckfags have literally zero standards and if you call them out on it they start massively coping saying new games are trash just play retro stuff.
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>>750159316
>gonna have to wait until the next gen comes out to get a cheap ps5
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>>750159316
I love how zoomers and 3rd worlders parasocial relationship with Gabe Newell has obliterated their ability to understand cost to performance ratio.
saddest part is I don't think they even care
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>>750159316
A $1600 Xbox Magnus is significantly better value than $1000 steam machine
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>>750171179
Only consoles 3rd worlders have gotten in recent years are PS4 and Switch. The rest are not worth looking into because they're uncracked
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>>750161684
>>750164201
nigga. it sits. on. your. desk.
idgaf if it has laptop components. if it doesnt have a screen and keyboard built into it its a desktop pc. its lower end hardware for streaming from your main pc. its a luxury item for wealthy pc gamers not for little hispanic boys like yourselves looking to replace their xbox series s
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>>750159316
i don't get the point of that thing is less powerful than a laptop that costs the same
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>>750159316
>weaker than a PS5 but in the same price range as next gen consoles
No, Valve can fuck off.
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>>750172121
Retard.
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>>750172121
If you want to stream from your PC then just plug in your smartphone to the TV and stream with that.
>its a luxury item for wealthy pc gamers
It's an overpriced item for retarded PC gamers with more money than sense.



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