Zoomer here. Did the GameCube flop as bad as the Wii U? Why did everyone hate it?
Nintendo got raped by Sony for 3 gens straight. That's what they get for their arrogance.
>>750172351I don't think anyone actually hated it. People just hated me so if they hated the Gamecube I guess I could just never separate that from their hatred of me.
>>750172351Gamecube sold 50% better than Wii U and has a better library. All good Wii U games have been ported to Switch
>>750172351>Zoomer here.what you like born 2008 or smth
>>750172351no gran turismo, gta, or tekken. why bother?
>>750172351People hated the GameCube?I never had a GameCube. I did have a WiiU. The one thing I remember most about the WiiU was how sluggish the menus were. It just a really slow system. Not the games, but the system UI. I really hated that thing. But once it was hacked, it was priceless. The hacks were easy, as was acquiring the games. Really solid hack job on that thing. Still just a bad system. The bad marketing that led to its low sales is one thing, but it really needed a much better CPU.
>>750172351PS2 had full backwards compatibility with PS1 games, memory cards, and controllers, AND it could play DVD movies when those were a hot new thing. All this for less than the cost of a standalone DVD player. And the PS2 looked sleek and cool. The GameCube had none of that and it looked like a little kid's lunch box with bright plastic colors.
>>750172351Every single console of that generation besides the PS2 failed to outsell even the 64 or the Atari 2600 even with price cuts, and these were rich kid consoles back in the day
>>750172351nah gamecube actually had a good library and was well liked it's just the playstation 1 and 2 were too strong, they were a cultural phenomenon and the go to choice for every casual and hardcore gamer. People did not want to miss out on the sequels to all the great games on ps1 so unless you were a diehard Nintendo guy the PS2 was the smart choice to get access to the majority of the best games.Nintendo was also fighting the kiddie label which was biting them in the ass as demographics changed and the average fifa/madden gamer thought the cube was gay.
>>750172351Like the n64, It did reasonably well in North America and fairly poor elsewhere.
>>750172351The Gamecube released as gaming was just starting to gain mainstream acceptance. Gaming was popular long before then but it was still viewed as super nerdy or for kids so kids/teens/young adults just didn't talk about it much freely until like, Halo came out. This meant that people had a chip on their shoulder regarding games and were very self conscious about them, and the gamecube was unabashedly videogamey. PS2 and Xbox advertising was becoming very concerned with how badass and mature gaming was, while Nintendo was not afraid to put Mario front and center. The negative reactions to windwaker not being some grimdark rated M game are the easiest example of this.Basically Gamecube was the childish/nerdy option before "geek chic" really became a thing.Also PS2 was a dvd player.
>>750172351It's not so much we hated the GameCube, but the PS2 was too good to pass up. You have no idea how good of a deal a 300 dollar DVD player and video game console was in late 2000, that alone sold most parents on getting one for their kids.
>>750172351Because the dvd version was not the default version. Nintendo was greedy and paid for it.
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>>750172351Because we got he bad timeline without rareware on the system
>>750172351So basically you have one of the best generations of video games where online play is hitting the mainstream like a truck, new genres are literally being invented left and right and revolutionary stuff is happening all over the place with the games industry churning out some of the best games it ever had.And the gamecube missed out on _all_ of it.
>>750172423Sony getting Nintendo 2 generations In a row. The Playstation 3 was a disaster.
>>750172351Not buying it =/= hating it. The average household usually only bought one console for a generation, and most bought the PS2. It came out sooner, had DVD, and was considered the "cool" one.
>>750172351>Why did everyone hate it?How Snoys are now are how the Xbox playerbase was back then. the PS and Nintendo crowd mostly got along, if you were playing Metal Gear on PS2 you also probably owned Smash too on GC. If you ever watched Arby n The Chief, Chief himself was the manifestation of how Xbox players were.
>>750172351i dont remember hating it, but i sure as fuck wouldn't have one over ps2 or even og xbox. imagine having that gimped ass controller and missing san andreas, dmc, ffx, mgs3, mk shaolin monks, and early console online gaming for...luigi's mansion
>>750174874nintendo fans have always hated playstation to the point of hating anything that appeared too Japanese.
>>750174874this
>>750172351in europe and japan it never stood a chance. sony and sega were too entrenched, and sega was gone. so they were sony territory uncontested. the us was the only place that actually had a regular console war, but there they were competing with the american made xbox for the scraps of the US. third world like south america and the middle east, sony also won uncontested. xbox and nintendo didnt even release in those places afaikbut software wise all three of them are great and have more games than you have time to play
at least around me, gc was seen more as a childs console. It did well, but going over to anyones house and seeing a gc ONLY was always a very bizzare experience especially with the fucking asinine controller, minidiscs, and them never having anything other than tendie games or maybe timesplitters at most. It was like alternate reality gaming.
>>750174952it had some good third party shit from capcom and sega. pn03, re4, viewtiful joe, killer7, sonic adventure1+2, skies of arcadia, fzero gxpikmin, wave race, chibi robo, custom robo and battalion wars were fun first party gamesgc had some games, it was just third in a stacked race
One thing that also confused me about the Cube was that it apparently had 16 MB of dedicated audio RAM, on a machine with super-compressed audio due to the mini-discs. Was it make the compressed audio sound better? Seems like a strange way to build your machine. Or was it multi-purpose?>>750172351The kid's console sentiment was certainly real in media and anecdotally. Admittedly, most of my circles were some manner of pro-Ninty, often multi-console, so the occasional downer sentiment in those parts was how quickly the Cube died. Nintendo blitzed out nearly all of the real systems sellers in the first 12 months, and that was kind of all she wrote.>>750173247>>750174638Correct on both counts. Nintendo was basically gearing up for a second round of Nintendo 64 versus Playstation. But of course the 6th console gen ended up being much more than just that. >>750175223 is also correct that it was effectively a North American product in the one market where the Xbox also took off.
>>750172351>Zoomer here. Did the GameCube flop as bad as the Wii U?Huh, you should know. GameCube, Ps2 and GBA are our fucking childhood. Don't tell me you are a late zoom zoom
>>750172351I wouldn't call it a flopwhile a lot of people wanted a ps2 or xbox the gamecube still had a place in a lot of peoples homesit also made more sense back then to own multiple consoles for exclusives for every ps2 or xbox there was usually a gamecube pared with it
>>750176345>Or was it multi-purpose?It was for precaching data from the disc to shorten load times. Results were mixed. Gamecube is not known for its audio quality, it's a firm third there. Xbox had a far better idea for caching data to shorten load times.
>>750172351the only people who were vocal on hating gamecube were also playing Halo 2 and BF2142 daily
>>750172351Nintendo's consoles were declining with every release since the NES until the Wii
>>750172351>shitty controller (missing buttons, horrible d-pad incompatible with entire genres of games such as fighting, 2D platformers and puzzle, stupid big fat analog shoulder buttons that don't fit fast-paced games such as FPS, face button disallows make non-adjacent button combinations a nightmare)>gimped media thanks to retarded decision to use mini-discs>anemic 3rd party supportWhat do you think
>>750172423>3 gens straightThe Wii outsold the PS3 and the DS outsold the PSP
>>750173247>Mario was the nerdy optionretard, everyone mocked the gamecube as kiddy, not "nerdy"
>>750176952Its strange, but the Wii had basically zero cultural impact by the time the generation was over. Definition of flash in the pan. Ended up with very few games worth playing.
NES (1985): 61.91 million unitsSNES (1991): 49.10 million unitsN64 (1996): 32.93 million unitsGameCube (2001): 21.74 million units
>>750177017That sums up that entire gen. Despite getting outsold by PS3 and Wii, people actually still remember the 360. Probably Microsoft's only memorable gen.
>>750177017Super Mario GalaxySuper Mario Galaxy 2Donkey Kong Country ReturnsThe list goes on
>>750177093Yeah it's all about 360 and PS3 nostalgia. Nobodys like "brooo....remember excitebots?" it's all about halo 3.
>>750173247I remember seeing this image like in 2003 or 2004, but I don’t remember the text about the bonus disk. Was this an April Fools gag, or did they just get the details about the OoT GC remaster wrong?
>>750172351no games compared to the PS2 and the PS2 doubled as a DVD player
>>750177141What good console exclusives did the 360 have besides Gaylo 3 and Gays of War?Was the 360 entirely carried by these few games?
i got a gamecube day one, but i was 10 so i had outgrown nintendie games and only used it for Twin Snakes, Crystal Chronicles, RE4, and the GBA adapter and spent all my time playing PS2 and PC gamesit wasn't bad, in fact it was a good console, but it was already mogged and gaped day one just like its predecessor
>>750172351I had more way more games for the gamecube than I ever had for the wii and wii u combined.
>>750177219carried by halo yeah, notice how Xbox has gone down in relevancy since Halo stopped being good? shit was up there with Call of Duty as a massive franchise with a massive playerbase. then it died lol
>>750177219it had the best multiplats because it had the best online. most of its exlusives ended up ported to ps3. read the vsrecommendedwiki for the list
>>750177219>Lost Odyssey>Crackdown>Saints Rowwere all kino
>>750177219dead rising mah niggaearly x360 was great and felt like an extension of 6th gen
>>750175035>hating anything that appeared too Japanese.You fags have such a persecution complex kek
>>750177008Literally said childish/nerdy, so I don't know why you would respond like this. It was the nerdy teens who were more likely to have a gamecube and not care about the childish stigma. >>750177159April fools. They say the promo starts on the first of April.
>>750177470I like lost odyssey but we cannot pretend it did anything to boost the popularity of the console. it was the weirdo outlier with Vesperia and Infinite Undiscovery (I think? don't remember if that was a multiplat). the meat and potatoes for most was brown n bloom shooters.
Can you imagine this guy calling people "nigger' over socom or halo on his og xbox and ps2, or playing mario sunshine?
>>750177578yeah i never meant to imply that, it was fucking retarded to make it a 360 exclusive but its still a great game
>>750177606>calling people "nigger' over socomleave me out of this anon, i don't know what i did to get called out.
>>750177606he'd look cute with a purple lunch box and vivian futa gf
>>750177693hail mary to try to get the console to move any units at all in japan, did not work even a little bit LMAO. not even the gooch himself could get people to give a fuck about the console with both Blue Dragon and LO.
>>750177530Imagine playing dumb about this.
>>750177606This was actually the sort of guy to do both.
>>750177769and cave ported their whole library to the 360. idolmaster was exclusive to it too. and it still got its ass kicked. best selling xbox in japan ever though
>>750172351i just never gave it much thought at all. my friend had one and we'd play smash on it during lunch and homeroom at school but that was about it. when i thought of consoles it was xbox and playstation.
my neighbors put peanut butter in my gamecube and it stopped working and my mom got nintendo to replace it
I loved it. Small library yes, but you knew whatever you go your hands on was going to be somewhat decent I remember saving for a GameCube with my local newspaper job, and when dad finally took me to the shop he said he'd cover the difference if I wanted the the PS2 (I think he wanted the DVD player)L. I was so hyped for so long to get that stats wars rogue leader game that I rejected that probably superior offer.I had friends that had PS2 and Xbox so we all got to enjoy our exclusives together so I don't think it was a total loss.
>>750172351Gamecube was a flop compared to the PS2 but irl it was still popular
>>750175035>>750177773you are talking about some bullshit that only would pop up among like a dozen people spread across multiple internet forums.
>>750172461All good Gamecube games play on Wiitruly a useless system
>>750178391Bro you almost killed capcom because they preferred publishing on playstation and sega lol.
>>750172351PS2 was a cheap and good DVD player at a time when that was highly valuable, and that's 90% of the sales.Add in xbox scooping up some normies and the GC being an underpowered lunchbox and you can understand the generation pretty well.
>>750177141>>750177017literally no one is nostalgic over PS3, 3 and 4 are basically forgotten except for Bloodborne. 360 was the only big console that gen, and it roughly matching sales is all the more impressive considering how the two companies did in the previous gen.Obviously, they immediately fucked it up with kinect
>>750177219360 had some decent games, but it's main shining point was attracting dudebros and fratguys and the like, who normally saw gaming as something only nerdy faggots did. XBOX was HUGE with normies in the 2000s, in a way that's really hard to conceptualize in retrospect.
>>750179412>GC being an underpowered lunchboxPS2 was the one with low specs. It wasn't until the Wii that Nintendo consoles started underperforming. Probably something to do with the Nintendium mines drying out.
>>750179571PS2 didn't miss out on any significant games like GC did.
>>750179476i'm nostalgic about MGO2
>>750172351the ps2 destroyed the competition and xbox had halo and exclusives
>>750179680All 3 consoles missed out on significant games. That doesn't have anything to do with their specs.
>>750179734>All 3 consoles missed out on significant gamesGC missed out on more than any other, and it came down to the fact it couldn't do what the others could.
>>750179901>it couldn't do what the others could.Yeah, Sega does what Nintendon't. This just sounds like you're still fighting the 6th gen console war as if you're a Japanese soldier stationed on an island who never got the news.Ignoring that, Xbox is clearly the one that had the worst library in spite of having the best specs. Even back then it was only seen as the Halo console. But it still had some great exclusives. Crimson Skies and MechAssault for example were fantastic. There were enough masterpiece games coming out every month back then that it didn't really matter much which console you had.
>>750172351>Did the GameCube flop as bad as the Wii U?The Wii U wishes it had the popularity the GameCube had. The GameCube was popular enough for the Wii to be backward compatible with its games.
>>750180190>Xbox is clearly the one that had the worst libraryNah, it had those major titles cube missed. Burnout 3, Midnight Club, GTA of course.
>>750172461>better library.lol Game Cube has literally no games.
>>750180484I meant exclusives, but yeah a lot of good American games didn't make it to the Gamecube but were on both PS2 and Xbox. Gamecube+PS2 was easily the best combo to have if you could choose two. Xbox had Xbox live though. Really it was just an insanely strong generation of games.
>>750180382>The GameCube was popular enough for the Wii to be backward compatible with its games.That's not why. The Wii is literally a Gamecube internally, just overclocked.
>>750172461>All good Wii U games have been ported to SwitchAren't the most popular games from the Switch just ported Wii U games?
>>750180642I don't really see the gamecube having any leg to stand on after 2001. Missing out on the Xbox Live experience is not a worthwhile tradeoff.
>>750172351>Did the GameCube flop as bad as the Wii U? no>Why did everyone hate it?because the people that played the games were just weirdlike, gamecube people were (and continue to be) REALLY weird
>>750180737>like, gamecube people were (and continue to be) REALLY weirdThey want shantae in smash weird.
>>750172351Not really, most of the people I knew growing up had one including me, going over to a friends and playing Mario Party, Melee, and Double Dash are some of my fondest memories
When did this meme about the gamecube not having games start? Is it a reaction to annoying Nintendo fanboy youtubers or something?
>>750180950>what socials do i need to get on in order to set the record straight?? RIGHT. NOW,
>>750172351The GCN was super popular thanks to having the best game of the generation, Super Smash Bros Melee. Even if you didn't have a GCN, you would still go to someones house just to play it. One GC could service 4 people, so even if it "sold less", these were the days where you didn't need to buy 4 consoles to play a local game of whatever. So the playerbase was higher per unit sold.
>>750172351It's an incredibly solid console and it has great titles, but their obviously Japanese-centric design choices made them lose good will with the International audience. Making their DVDs proprietary and 1.5 GB only whereas the competition had full blown DVDs including DVD playback (a huge feature back then --a lot of people simply defaulted to the PS2 because it was a really cheap way to get into DVDs) hurt how much content third parties could put in a disc, which scared them off. Besides this the console had a very Fischer-Price look and feel, which scared a lot of gamers away (reminder that this was the 2000 and a lot of gamers wanted to be seen as edgy, mature and cool). The controller particularly, even though it works perfectly, made a lot of developers hesitant to get their games on it, believing it to have been developed exclusively for Mario, Zelda and Smash (which is true).Besides this, the marketing was deficient, and Nintendo, as always "did their own thing", which meant that a lot of their titles were unappealing to mass audiences. However, its legacy endured until 2017: the delightful Dolphin architecture (at least to me) lasted until the Wii U. It was time to move on and I'm glad they moved from PowerPC to Tegra/ARM, however.
>>750181221I don't care about a console war from 20 years ago. PS2 clearly won this one I just want to know why this is something I see people saying now when it wasn't like 5 years ago.
>>750180950In the 2000's because the Xbox, PS2, and even Dreamcast had way more. Some of the most beloved Gamecube games are Dreamcast ports which really says it all.
>>750176345Nintendos engineers had some cracked dudes, but then some retard named Miyamoto would choose to add some retarded feature to make the cracked hardware never get used as intended."Ahh wattu dis, memoryu cachingu, nonono cachu bad, small disc cute, shouju lieku small cute. fast load make cacheu reduntanto"He fucked the N64 by making it cartridge based too, so it never got to make use of some of the cool hardware that's under the hood there.
>>750181335No one had a dreamcast so nobody in the 2000's cared about how the games they had available on the gamecube were also on dreamcast. This shit only matters now with everyone emulating which is also why it doesn't matter; you have every console available so you don't have to make a serious decision on which console to get. Nobody was buying every single good gamecube game that released and then being sad there weren't enough.
>>750177606Yeah. That was pretty common. These were also the kinds of guys that would take their chains and hit you with them if you fucked with them.
>>750179412>GC being an underpowered lunchboxGenerally speaking PS2 was the weakest of the three while Xbox was strongest.
>>750172451I kinda get this anon. Not over the gamecube, but other things, gaming or otherwise. Sorry you feel that way dude.
>>750172351people didn't hate it, just everyone i knew wanted a ps2 first, then some bought it years later when the console literally became the price of 1.5 games
>>750172351The stupid discs.
>>750172351PS2 was a better deal and had more games
I didn't even know the Gamecube existed. My timeline was going from N64 to GBA SP (But I at least knew the regular GBA existed) to DS and Wii.Had a PS1 and PS2 though.
Not really
>>750172351it lost to the gaijin slop console: XboxBut more humiliating than this is the N64 flop next to the Saturn. Sega Saturn is the only sega console that managed to outsell a nintendo console in Japan.
>>750172351I don't remember anyone actually giving a fuck until like 2010console war shit was mostly just advertising campaigns and most real people just bought whichever console had the game that looked coolest to themsomething that I think is difficult to describe to zoomers is that until like ps4/xbone era, it was not very common to have a huge library on your consolein the early 2000's most kids had like a handful of games because game development was not as ubiquitous as it is now. You could conceivably play a console's entire library if you ignore the shovelware. My point being that it was much easier to care about the games instead of whatever flavour of box plays the game.
>>750177219Ace Combat 6. Can never go wrong with HOPEcore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeDHeSeV1BA
>>750172351They went all-in on being a kiddy toy when videogames were starting to get popular with jocks and normies. And Sony had proved itself with the PlayStation, and now had hype of the PS2 + being a DVD player. If you wanted third party games you wanted a PlayStation/PS2. Third party support had dried up hard during the N64 and Nintendo did little to make anyone feel it would improve with the GameCube.Also The GameCube is horribly overrated today. It sold like shit because it was shit. I got one at launch as a 14 year old for Christmas and saved up and bought a PS2 within a couple years because the games felt shallow/kiddy. Just sitting through the Mario Sunshine intro cutscenes made me feel like a complete faggot with the court scene and talking water pump. I was 15 by time sunshine came out and was just thinking how embarrassing this shit was when I could be playing GTA Vice City or MGS2 or something.The real question is why normies loved the Wii. That shit was even worse than the GameCube.
