>Oh cool, Sweden is in Civ? Wow, they must've been a really powerful and influential civilization to get in>I'll check their Civilopedia entry...*ahem*>Major military power for only 50 years, only achieved a few minor strategic victories which did absolutely nothing to change the balance of power in the 17th century>Gustav Adolf, the Civ leader, died in battle to a footman. His army promptly collapsed.>Succeeded by his daughter who was a well-known slut who wasted resources on a pointless colonisation of Delaware and abandoned the country to fuck the Pope in Rome>Sweden subsequently jobbed to Russia in the 1700s and lost all its little prestige>Very little cultural or literary achievements>Very little scientific achievements>Claim to fame is being the homeland of the Vikings but they all actually came from Denmark (which is the Viking civ)Lmao
>>750185536As an American, I 1.) dont care and 2.) am still playing Europa Universalis
>>750185536You are buying their Ikea furniture and playing their Minecraft. You have already lost the cultural victory.
No cultural or scientific achievements? You are just unaware of how many things are swedish. Guaranteed you use swedish technology and know about swedish scientific discoveries and artists you just don't realize they're swedish
>>750185536>Very little scientific achievementsYeah, only invented the thing that completely changed how warfare was fought.
They used to be good at oppressing Finns. Stromaktstiden
>>750185536Outside of the English-French-German bickering triumvirate, most of medieval Europe kind of just minded their own business. You could make a case for Spain and Italy/Venice, but north Europe? You'll see 50 sultanates and dynasties in a Medieval Great Powers list before anyone pretends to give a fuck about any of the Netherlands-to-Poland Great "Who Fucking Cares" North European Belt.
>>750186443And then the winged hussars arrived!
>Play Civ>Pick civilization that looks fun, preferebly with unique tile improvements>Have funIts that simple. No need to seethe on a swedish surströmming trade forum.
