Why are fighting games perpetually dead? How can developers retain more players?
>>750188859Make it a gacha crossover fighter. Add rape defeat too.
Mmmm, slut makeup
>>750188859make it a soulslike
Fighting Game
>>750188859Flat chest thick thighs is the patrician choice
Make a different genre of game
>>750190067Dumb bitch is dressed like Sakura to do the Chun Li challenge.
>>750190575she's an autistic quirk chungus that never takes her sakura cosplay off and likes when people call her sakura instead of her real name
>>750188859The developers have done enough.It's up to players to stop being fucking bitches now. Stop complaining about how other people are putting in more effort to learn a game. More than ever is this a player engagement issue that places the ball in the player's court now.Can the devs try and encourage engagement with a robust singleplayer? Definitely but at some point it has to come down to the player to evolve from just a singleplayer-only into someone who actually wants to fucking LEARN.
>>750188859Short and boring gameplay loop
>>750188859the fact is nobody likes to lose and most people are going to be losing most of the time. and making the games easier to play is not a solution to the problem because someone is still losing. that's just how the genre works. two people go at it, the best player wins. someone goes home a faggot loser and it is all their fault. >they just need to get good thenmost simply don't care to. there's always going to be too many people who are better regardless of how much you grind. unless you intend to make it your job and legit want to be the very best ever. and fucking no one is actually going to do that.
fighting games need a story mode or campain with a system that's not a slog to do basic training and warmup against npc, a system similar to racing gamesSF6 had staying power thanks to it's solo mode, tho it's pretty bad, but stilland it need to not be unbalanced garbage like SF6 were you can grab loop someone to death
>>750188859they can't, the genre popularity peaked in the 90s
No focus on singleplayer no buy
Reverse bunny suits are pure heresy
>>750188859If i were to ask myself what defines a traditional fighting game it would be neutral and combo's. For neutral there are other genre of games that do that better or similarly like mobas for multiplayer and metroidvanias for single player. Combo's aren't great for multiplayer because of how uniteractive they are so a singleplayer game could likely service players that like that better. But i don't really play fighting games so I'm just guessing if you have anything specific you like about these games i'd be curious to hear it.
>>750194151if that's heresy then tie me to a ICBM and fire me at the Vatican
>>750188859My oldfag opinion>play fighting game>spend tons of games losing learning to block>finally learn how to block pretty good>game doesn't reward me for blocking i'm still minus>good luck holding that next 50/50 un-reactable mixup btw lmaoI stopped trying when I finally accepted that defense was something of the past. After all, """people don't like watching turtling they want to see explosive plays!!!"""
>>750191538hello faggot, do you have an updated gallery of your stuff?also do some pics with fio pretty please
>>750194151Agreed. They completely destroy the classy, elegant eroticism of bunny suits and replace it with tasteless vulgarity. Death to reverse bunny heretics.
I hope Capcom never makes a new Darkstalkers game, I'm happy with the old ones and they can only ruin the series by making a new one.
>>750188859Only ones worth playing have already been made. Plus R and CF, SF2, 3S, and Alpha.
It's just an extremely niche genre now. The only one that normal people find fun is SmashI think developers obsess way too much over competitive and ignore how fun the game will actually be for normal people to play
>>750195341Not updated, no, but here's the link if you need it.https://catbox.moe/c/s822s4I have to sleep now but I'll do some Fio if this thread is still up, or in a future Lilith thread.
>>750188859Fighting games would be alive, well and stable if steam charts obsession, old/modern discriminatory and esports faggotry doesn't exists. Play what you like, have fun and enjoy. That's it.
>>750190239TruthI prefer some tits too but if I am faced with small tits/large ass or large tits/small ass then I will pick the former every time.
>>750197434>only vaginal>dykestrash
>>750188859Most people don't want to grind ranked it's busy work they'd rather spend the evening playing games with their friends, only the autistic actually spend hours on ranked
They are too hard, but not every genre needs to pander to carebears. FGC is much more alive than pre-SF4 years of silence
How do you feel about Lilith growing her hair out like Morrigan?
>>750188859such a perfect body
>>750188859Combos are the problem—they always have been.Nobody likes combos; 99.9% of players just mash buttons at random. No one wants to memorize moves—they want to have fun, not study.
>>750199275Prefer the short hair for her
>>750199509Street fighter and guilty gear have always had short combos for most characters. Including old guilty gear yes. 3S has shorter combos than sf6.
>>750199987SF6 mostly feels like the outlier of the franchise due to the way the meter and conversions works in it (and literally 10s long SA3 cutscenes)
>>750200131Yeah I hate that. People talk about anime games and say they hate being juggled for ages and sf6 is exactly that. Sf6 and strive both got too much cutscene stuff too. Plus R combos end way quicker usually cuz of the damn wallbreak and super cutscenes
>>750188859a lot of it is pure base rates and demographic issues. people stopped having babies a while ago, so the population of people who plays games is decreasing. for example, the number of people under the age of 30 is going DOWN right now. every single day the number of people under the age of 30 actually gets SMALLER now. This is really REALLY unusual, because up until this year that number was growing every single day, but now it's going backwards. Think about what effect that has on video game playing populations. It used to be that as games got made, there was also an ever growing pie of people from which to pull new players from. now the pie is shrinking and new games have to fight with each other and with existing games over slices of a pie that gets smaller every single day
>>750200949>Nursing homes will have arcades at this rate
>>750200716Strive combo length is really more than fine in 2.0 with weaker ranged conversions and no Wild Assault, but I agree wallbreaks/cutscenes still take far too long
I actually want to play but being bodied by someone who has played the genre for 10 years is less fun. I was recently looking for a fighting game with fun single player
https://youtu.be/FnyKHQqpM8Q
>>750191310They could make a ranked mode that actually targets 50/50 instead of making 90% of players lose constantly to feed points to the top of the pyramid like they do.
>>750199275Not bad but as the other anon said, short hair is preferable.
>>750202581>I deserve 50% winrate just for existingfuck off or git gud retard
>>750202112How bad do you have to be to confuse someone who's played for 10hrs for someone who has played for a decade
>>750200716>Sf6 and strive both got too much cutscene stuff too.And yet both are highly successful, as if presentation is the only thing people really care about
>>750202830Well I definitely don't deserve having my supposed rank go up when I'm under 50/50 until I'm losing all the time as if that will gaslight me into having fun, getting obliterated by a tidal wave of smurfs every DLC release, and being put on the exact same rank points as Mena and Sahara every 3 months.Guys are ready to rope themselves for being 1300MR even though in a ranked system that wasn't wack they'd be like 1800 among the total population
What's with the influx of succubi threads
>>750194151>>750195368I like both.
>>750190575you say that like sakura had no thigh game
>>750188859>Why are fighting games perpetually dead? The games are bad>How can developers retain more playersMake games that aren't bad
>>750203067Im bad at fighting games, ive never played them, does it look like im pretending? How small is your penis that you're trying to flex randomly and anonymously
>>750203513Not a flex you retard, just wondering how do you have such bad motor skills and reflexes? Fighting games are filled with shitters who lose when their opponent spams one special, and in the age of one button specials, you have to be disgustingly awful to rarely get wins.
>>750188859make it have actual single player content
Nuke Saudi Arabia
>>750203762Dont be so insecure and angry your whole life
>>750204046They gonna make it live action is it :(
>>750199275Long hair Lilith simultaneously looks more innocent but also more like a succubus who'd actually drain you instead of being a baka who thinks succs drink blood.
>>750188859Take actual effort to get good at AND you can't blame teamates.
>>750204263There is no insecurity or anger, I just am wondering how you managed to be so physically incompetent that you can't continuously press one button + a direction on a controller.
>>750204678Nta but the 2 games of skullgirls I played I got trapped in an infinite where I literally couldn't do anything
>>750188859Because are lame, gay and riddled with microtransactions. And have been like that for 15 years now.
>>750188859>Why are fighting games perpetually dead?because they keep releasing new ones that are inferior versions of their previous entries under the premise that the game will be improved with updates over time only to eventually be scrapped for a new shitty game, rinse and repeatthis is the timeloop fightan developers and the 'I only want to play the game that's relevant' fightan gamer have chosen
>>750199275she loses a lot of her charm but it's a nice novelty, all Lilith's are good except for when people give her massive tits
>>750204928Well yeah, you're playing a decade old game made by an autist and filled with nothing but autists. I highly doubt that other anon was in a similar situation, but in the unlikely chance that he was, I owe him an apology.
>>750188859There are a lot of things, but what I hate most is how fighting games are one of the few competitive gaming genres that aren't centralized. Why do they keep releasing new games and sequels? What's even the point? It just splits the player base across different games
>>750190636the devs sabotage their own games by trying to appeal to casuals(who will never care)
>>750207101What other gaming genre that are centralized? As far as I know every game has at least one sequel with different playerbases. Also if you mean you want updates/expansions rather than a full new game there's still chances it will divide the playerbase like there are still people who liked Continuum Shift than CentralFiction. There's even a rollback mod for CS out there right now. Or do you mean no updates whatsoever which if so my bad
>>750199275>low-tied long hair over shoulder>modest housewife dress>pregnant with our child
>>750188859Both developers and legacy players of this genre are too hyperfixated on the battle engine. In most other games the battle engine is an important part of the overall gameplay experience but not the legitimate entirety of it.All this discourse about how fighting games are too hard, too mechanically demanding, too frustrating or whatever is totally retarded because the fundamental issue is that for most people, a good battle engine simply isn't enough. Most people don't want to grind out a battle simulator against other people for the same reason they don't want a JRPG that is just the random encounters.
>>750205430Nah dont apologize to me for sperging. Thats all you
>>750208951So, what old game populated entirely by decade old vets did you try?
>>750199275She almost looks like wife material now
>>750208353I mean, take League of Legends for example. Since there's only one installment, everyone plays the same game instead of being split across multiple sequels or expansions. You don't have to worry about hardware issues or your skills not carrying over to the next game either