GEARS OF WAR ESTROGEN DAY LOST MORE MONEY THAN CONCORDPUT THE FRIES IN THE BAG LILBRO
>>750198186god, chuds keep winningchudbros... how could we handle so much winning?
I don't believe itNobody would invest $500m into making a video game that isn't GTA
>>750198186they have nothing left besides forza horizon lmao
>>750198186it's sad to see. this game could have been pretty good if they didn't shoehorn in the lesbo with lung cancer and didn't bother with the open world idea.
>>750198274i will keep playing Zenless Zone Zero. Miss me with that westoid shit.
You know men have estrogen too
>>750198186>Spent 500 million>Got 40 million from salesoh no no no!
Was it any good? Haven't played since 360 days.
>>750198274Id rather they make good video games that aren't bogged down by all their stupid gay shit than "win". These devs and publishers all deserve to go under.
>>750198186how long until the higherups understand that (((critic))) scores don't mean jackshit if the people who actually spend money on games won't buy it?
>>750198347It's probably intentional sabotage
>ever spending more than $10m on making a gamefor what purpose
>>750198381>I for one loseYes you do.
>>750198186How the fuck does this ugly ass shit game cost $500M?
>>750198430With the exception of the squad mate Mags, and a few women in positions of power? Yeah.
>>750198430it's pretty fun and is one of the few ue5 games that looks good
>>750198381YWNBJYWNBC
>>750198186>it could achieve more as an xbox console exclusive...how? By preventing those few pc users from buying it so it can sell even less? And it was already Xbox exclusive, which simply means it's on PC too since PC players won't buy console anyway
>>750198347Get on with the times anon.Nowadays developing a new GTA costs at least one billion, possibly two.
>>750198430The gameplay is good but they cant help themselves but tack on boring open world bullshit
>>750198186>B-B-BUT MUH METACRITIC!I don't even see /v/ use that to shitpost these days. It's mainly steam chart threads. The last 10+ years of loudly retarded journos ruined it and no one has any kind of illusion that metacritic score means anything.
>>750198347Oh yeah, useless admin jobs sucking up money for doing nothing definitely don't exist. Especially not in companies that take 10 years to push out a shitty game like veilguard.
>>750198186>I heard some guy in a japanese bar day it cost $600m.
>>750198347Sunk cost.
>>750198186>this flop would've made more money if it was sold on one system instead of twoWhat retard said this, the one making the kotaku twitter post? I need a face and name associated with the quote. It sold like shit because Gear of War was never a huge blockbuster IP to begin with not big enough to justify a $500 million budget yet they put all their budget eggs in the basket thinking it was and the woke stuff that came to light near or at release did not help at all either.
>>750198186It must be humiliating being a snoy and xbot these days
>>750198508The sales are abysmally low either way, so you might as well try to increase long term profits by growing the console playerbase.
>>750198186yeah rightGames only cost that much when a large studio of California developers work on it for like 5 years. The salary drain is insane there with the cost of living so high.These devs are in Vancouver and Warsaw, much cheaper
>>750198807No one is going out to buy an $800 console for Gears.
>>750198773nigga the switch 2 just got hacked
>>750198186But how? Concord made 0 dollars, the company had to refund any sales they even made. If anything it only cost money to make.
I love watching Microsoft fans debate over their exclusives strategy when no one wants or cares about their IP. They bought half the industry and don't have a game that sells consoles to show for it. Bravo, Asha. Bravo, Todd.>>750198874You will be told you are wrong even though you are correct.
>>750198431you can't have it all. it's better having fun even if you don't get all you want
>>750198186lmao
>>750198916so? everything is going to get hacked because of claude
>>750198439How long until Asha realizes all of the franchises unter her tutiladge don't drive console sales? Halo, Gears, Forza... it's not 2010 anymore fellas.
>>750198186Tears of Woke: E-Gay and Gaylo Infinite cost Exbox more than 1 billy to make...
>Gamers don't need to be your audience>Gamers are overHow's that working out?
>>750199000Perfect excuse to have future consoles require you to input your ID, fingerprints & saliva samples to even turn on the system.
>>750198347>6 years of dev time>~200 people working full time on itidk what roles each had but these people generally make around 100k a year, let's say 80k average to be conservative>16million a year x 6y = 96millionand that's just salary for the core team, you have freelance workers, external consultation, third party dev teamsnot to mention equipment, utilities, maintenance, rent, etc. + marketingyeah, I can easily see this being a 500million project when you add everything up
>Project Helix debuts at $1200 with zero gamesSnoys are about to gain some company.
>>750198916>OH NO PEOPLE HACKED A CONSOLE WITH GAMES ON ITI'm happy you guys will get to play games for once
>>750198508You have to remember that most game journos are fucking retarded, anon.
>>750198464Embezzling the money and hiring your friends
>>750198347no snoy game in the past decade has cost under 300M, so it tracks.muttoid studios are money pits
>>750198347the 500 million number is actually budget for engine tools intended for 2 other cancelled games, so now gears of war is responsible for the whole R&D cost
>>750198506what about K?
Sloptendo and Xbox killed in one day kek
My favorite part of all this is how the Xbot culists on twitter are like "once they get rid of day 1 on gamepass for big first party games, the sales problem will be 100% fixed! Xbox gamers will do what's right for the brand and and start buying their games again! ASHA MOMMY WINS AGAIN BROS"Do these people not realize that the moment they remove day 1 on gamepass, what's remaining of their own userbase will absolutely crater?
>>750199263Not only would it kill gamepiss for good, if they do shit like "it'll be next month on gamepass", that still doesn't fucking help. Look at Disney, their box office is garbage because their films hit streaming too soon and people just wait. Hell, people wait out PS5 and EGS exclusives for a full year. Anything short of full permanent exclusivity is a death sentence.
Nigga is more harmful than cancer
>>750199457>No namecome the fuck on anon
>>750198347Oy vey how dare you insult my consultancy business. That $300 million dollars cost for our services was absolutely necessary.
>>750199374Yeah that's the other thing, even if they make Elder Scrolls 6 an Xbox console exclusive, it won't move the needle as much as they think. For one thing>having expectations for a post-starfield todd gameBut also, if i really wanted to play it, PC would still be an option. What they would have to do to make a real difference is make it a full Xbox exclusive, no PC version for at least at launch, and MS simply doesn't have the balls to do that.
>>750199614Bethesdatards are like blizzdrones, they can be served shit for a decade and will still line up for more day 1, so starfield flopping isn't that good of a deterrent.So they COULD make it xbox exclusive, and the same retards who bought starfield after 76 will go out and buy a brand new console just for it.What they'd 100% lose is casual games who enjoy their games now and then, because their games are not system sellers, and no one's buying a full console for 1 game in this economy.
>>750199614>no PC version for at least at launchNobody would buy it, AAA no lob
>>750198186>Make video games that gamers would want to play.>Difficulty: Impossible
>>750198274Action through inaction
>>750199614>>750199705Fucking auto replyAAA no longer has the hold on on tech game dev and advertising on gaming like they did before.Even just 10 years ago retards were giving journofucks attention, not anymore.
>>750198186lmao rest in piss get ready to work at mcdonalds
>>750199614GTA 6 is not selling Xboxes, absolutely nothing will.
>>750199809You'll be the first to subscribe to her onlyfans KWAB.
>500.000.000+ dollars>12 hour long tpsI dun ged id, bros.
>>750198347You don't know how badly executives drain money. Also this game has been "developed" for a half-decade
>>750199747Xbox have zero franchises with any pull with the exception of Forza and Elder Scrolls, and even that is shaky after Starfield. Halo is dead, the people that liked it have either moved on from gaming or don't care about the new stuff. Same for Gears of War.
>>750199883>her
>>750198464Going corporate in a creative field. Hiring several hundred managers and executives to do fuck all
>>75019846414 layers of management.
There's no way these 500 million dollar games aren't money laundering.
>>750200093*embezzlement
>>750200093Cuckbox is helping in the genocide of Palestinians.
>>750198186
>>750200483This is a problem?
>>750200483Sony also does that
>>750200483good
>>750200680Only if you're a goy like me.
>>750198186Hmmm, what should I do?>pay $70 for gameor>pay $15 for a month of Gamespass
>>750200802I suppose I would have an issue with it if those same Palestinians weren't chimping out in practically every other country you find them in about their shithole of a DMZ being bombed back to the stone age every other week.
>>750199187What engine tools? What R&D? E-Day is running UE5.
>>750200883how big is your nose btw?
This cost half a billion? It shouldn't have cost more than 150 million even with marketing attached.
>>750200518HE FUCKING WON.
Why the fuck are we even making games cost more to make.Gears 4 and 5 ware like 100 Mil to make and they look just fine.
>>750200916He's probably talking about middleware
>>750198186>Queers of WarHas anyone actually cared about this series in the past 15 years?
>>750200960Too small to smell shekels from a mile away.
>>750198464Salad bars and in house masseurs aren't free
>>750198464Management costs + graphical quality being the only thing you push further.Games could stay at Witcher 3's graphical quality forever and no one would give a fuck but every year companies spend all their time designing the most realistic burger wrapper ever produced
>>750201034But anon, think of all the consultancy groups that wouldn't get hired if we don't have 400+ million dollar budgets and dozens of shell companies to subcontract to make 10k models for random doodads.
I don't get it, I thought outsourcing to India was going to make development cheaper?
>>750201207You need managers with 6 figure paychecks (and friends/children of the board) to get them to do something
>>750201207They just pocketed the difference.
>>750201297also this
>>75020120770% of the budget would havd to be from outsourcing for the $500m number, even if you use Jason's $10k per month per employee calculation.
>>750201207Xbox is about extracting money not running a proper gaming business with longevity in mind. There's only one company doing that and it's not the two with HQ's in USA.
>>750201519>There's only one company doing that and it's not the two with HQ's in USA.Ninpedo pls
>>750198186If you akshually played the game you would know it's the exact opposite (aka testosterone day) and is one of the best shooters in years
>>750201741>If you akshually played the game you would know it's the exact opposite (aka testosterone day) and is one of the best shooters in years
>>750201778yes, it's a shame it will follow in the marathon and concord footsteps
>>750201741yas queen, I will go testosterone-shoot bad guys in your honor, I'm so glad you came up with this plan, no male could've thought of it. Only a woman could find the weakness in the enemy, thus retconning the rest of the franchise. My balls shrivel up from sheer feminity in your presence!
>>750198186>since the original trilogy There were other gears games?
>>750198186is the multiplayer fun at least?
>>750198347Kek. You wake up from a 10 year coma?? Wasting half a billion dollars is par for the course with modern retarded studios
>chuddies are still fighting a culture waryou lost
>>750201696>valve>game company
>>750198186Gamepass strikes again
>>750198186Some random guy: “It cost $500 million to make this game. Also, I don’t really have any solid evidence so I reached out to Microsoft and haven’t heard back yet.”
>>750202921Yeah, but it would be funny, so I believe it.
>>750199059>we will live to see verification cans in our lifetimeWhat a time to be alive
this game was a success and all you chuds can do is cry
>>750199614Full xbox exclusive with no PC for big franchises like fallout and TES would be a good way to risk killing BGS. They need to accept that xbox as a brand and as a console is just not that appealing to most people gamers, it hasn't been for most of its existence and now is the worst time to try to sell a mainstream console since the videogame 1983 videogame crash, even if people wanted an xbox the price and availability are terrible for sales.
>>750201778>bringing up Marathon unpromptedGood evening saar!
>>750198186ALL FIRST PARTY XBOX GAMES ARE LOSS LEADERS FOR GAMEPASS. THAT HAS BEEN THE STRATEGY FOR THE WHOLE CONSOLE GEN.
>>750198186why do they keep pissing away money like this
>>750198186I seriously can't even fathom how they could spend that much. I'd be willing to bet there is insane amounts of corruption going on there. Some guy contracting his brother's company at $8,000/day to render fire hydrants and shit like that.
>game is a massive success>chuds keep pissing themselveswhy are you like this?
>>750198451>It's probably intentional sabotageYeah and money laundering.The only 2 buzzwords you retards know and apply to everything
>>750198645I wonder what it was like to be Maureen McCormick, just getting in the shower, looking down, and thinking 'there's a million people jerking off to me right this second.' Imagine the ego.
>>750202207>Wasting half a billion dollars is par for the course with modern retarded studiosNo, it's not. That's an extraordinarily big sum.
>>750202223>actually there never was a culture warFirst time I read THAT cope
>>750198186Gears wasn't even that big in its heyday
>>750198186>Your demographic is teenagers at pic hormones years.>Shove moralfagotry and faggotry in your game to a point you would make a Donkey bites his own balls.>Pikachu face: We're loosing money>Must be the chuds...
>>750201207We are CEO now, sar. Please understand pay will be needing the increase for my family who will be CEO too.
>>750198186The thing that gets me is that almost everything in the game is perfect except for Carter. All they had to do was resist that one urge to put in a character that their old fan base wouldn't like, but they just couldn't do that.
>>750204308Wasn't the original Gears an Xbox 360 launch title? It was pretty big. Not Halo big, but it was definitely one of the games that was a big seller for the console.
>>750198347gta6 has cost over a billion us dollars
lel they spent $500,000 trying to make my sons gay now they have to work at mcdonalds for minimum wage, karmic justice libtards lel. get fucking owned thats what you get for attacking me and mine. get fuckng wrecked dont EVER come after me and mine again you GOT ME!
the only thing more inflated than modern gaming budgets is the third party estimates of those gaming budgets. Yes anon, Xbox spent $500 million on a franchise that hasn't made returns like that in two generations, and during a generation where they can't move consoles. It's true because it fits the current narrative. Forget that it's a fucking Kotaku article.
>>750205408Gears sold 5 million at most during the 360 era it was the fastest selling game of 2006. Which is not bad at all, but obviously it's not going to reach those numbers today, Gears 3 was down to 3 million and that was when it was still relevant and kinda popular, it doesn't warrant such a huge budget today unless you're willing to take a big loss. I genuinely don't understand Xbox at all they just seem like they're stuck in a bygone time. Old stale franchises nobody cares about anymore and a brand nobody gives a fuck about. They innovated with Xbox Live and Live Arcade Marketplace but that's old news and irrelevant today. Maybe E-Day was a project to try to build and establish an identity again but it's a lost cause IMO. Microsoft should just get rid of XBOX (it's in all caps, remember to spell it correctly!) it seems like a given.
>>750206834What strikes me more is>"Men need to stop with the stoicism and hiding their emotions stuff, it's oppressive patriarchal fascism, we love men who are in touch with their emotions!">A man gets emotional when confronted with extremely insulting dogshit>They spend YEARS seething and mocking him at every opportunity
>>750198274I'm tired of winning
>>750205879Why not? These studios are literally setting money on fire all the time. Sometimes they even do it not out of incompetence but on purpose then brag about how they're proud of losing money afterwards. So why does this seem to implausible?
>>750198186>make shitty 20yo outdated game>surprised when it failskek
Why don't these companies just start getting a group of 20 guys together and say, "you have 2 years, 100m dollars and a memory cap of 30gb, make it happen." If these indie devs can make a game on a shoestring budget and a single guy, surely the heavy hitters can manage.
Was a good game but overly long. 5 acts with 4-5 chapters each was too much. Also the open world shit was annoying. I like GoW being linear.
>>750198430I mean if you like GoW lii, then sure
>>750202223>Errr actually now that woketards are losing, there is no culture war
>>750210373>woketards are losingin what reality are you living to believe this?
>>750198186Too bad for them we all got wise to their bait and switch dyke protagonist shit. I almost got excited for it.
>>750200093>I don't know what money laundering is, please rape my face ok retard
>>750206834The funny thing is that this attack works. It's not actually funny. More like sad. But it does work. That guy really put a damper on people complaining about pronoun shit.
>>750200867>dishonest gamepass copePeople buy good games even if they are on gamepass. Your flop flopped because people did not want to play it. You probably already know that.
>>750201741Yeah, sorry, but I'm just not the target audience, so I'm not going to.
>>750198186>make unnecessary sequel avoiding obvious avenues to take the series>fuck up immediately after 4 (which in of itself was mediocre at best)>know you have to do something to fix things >do what you should have done from jump and make e-day prequel>somehow manage to fuck that up too>fuck up somehow racked up 500milI have seen so much absurd shit but this still gets me, where the fuck is all that money going? And where the fuck is the oversight stopping these retards?
>>750204027What is it about women from the 70s? They looked so different from the women of today. Barbara Palvin is the only person in the past 50 years to look anywhere close to Susan Dey.
>>750201207>I don't get it, I thought outsourcing to India was going to make development cheaper?It is, but then you have to spend a small fortune hiring competent coders that fix the garbled mess that they delivered
>>750210497The one in which he keeps you unemployed, ranjesh
>>750211109She looks like she has fetal alcohol syndrome, so what I'm guessing happened was women stopped drinking while they were pregnant. If you find that attractive then good for you I guess.
>>750211341we only getting started
>>750198186>Some of the worst new games for years like Sneedcord>Beloved settings like Gears, dragon age raped beyond recognition>All for absolutely eye-watering sums of moneyFinal days of Sodom feeling around this industry currently.I think we're about due for a massive crash were only the true giants like Rockstar, Blizzard, Valve, even bother making AAA games anymore.Inevitably, the Indie slop will become the largest market share with the majority of new games being chap, AI vibe coded and every year or so one of the big studios releases a game.
>>750198186So Kotaku is now legit source according to this board? Right? I will keep this in mind then.
>>750211676bizarre cope
>>750211358>FASPlease, you'd become a stuttering mess if she looked in your general direction.
>>750211807Why? Im not coping. Its legit source as of now according to /v/. Its based factual and redpilled.
>>750198186I wonder what percentage of that budget went towards guaranteeing that Metacritic score. Probably an embarrassingly low number.
>>750198489https://x.com/MasteroftheTDS/status/2105328406410019196?s=20Retard execs and developers hiring DEI consultants who charge their full rate, HR, bloat and other dumb shit
>>750211580>Inevitably, the Indie slop will become the largest market share with the majority of new games being chap, AI vibe coded and every year or so one of the big studios releases a game.Yeah because it's bloated as fuck, and Indie will crash due to this bloat.
>>750210373I don't really see each side winning or losing, some woke games are good and sell some woke games are bad and flop especially if they have nepo-woke hires like ff14 dawntrail and theres no actual official "chudfag games" to actually be invested in
I have a computer built in 2020 that can run current year games just fine. Yet I have bought exactly 1 game since then. And it was still woke enough where I felt like I wasted my $20.Death to all major software developers.Not a penny more until they are all out of the job and the only people left are doing it because they want to.
>>750211676Let me put it simply for you: if a politician promises he'll fix everything and he has a 500 IQ plan, he's probably lying, if he's admitting to a fuck-up, he's probably telling the truth.
>>750198347it has to be money laundering at this point, there's no way they didn't know this was gonna bomb, in current year where everyone including even some normies are starting to get LGBT and nigger fatigue they push this crap as a "prequel" focusing on marcus and dom but whoopsies here's the co-protagonist who exists to do things marcus and dom are incapable of doing
>>750212146And it's mostly due to indies copying each other. Like do we really need dozens of games about fetching a needle in a haystack? Or hundreds of janitor sim games.Even this upcoming Indie GOTY already has copycats.
>>750198186It's not even about wokeness why the fuck are you spending 500 MILLIONS on a fucking videogame?You know why Toby "Woke" Fox is so successful? Because his game (regardless if you like it or not) doesn't require MILLIONS to make.There is no hyper realistic purple lizard ass with 7 gajillion polygons simulating light and wind and bloom and antialiasing: it's a fucking still picture most of the time.The reality of all these games failing is that hyper realistic uber cool mega advanced graphics do not impress anyone anymore, they don't make a game fun.Or even pic related, Mewgenics too was a wild success to begin with because it didn't need to recoup half a billion.Enough with hyper realistic graphics: if your game isn't a simulator they are unnecessary.
>>750198186Gears was never popular enough to justify this even at its peak.
>>750198430Its fine, its what you expect. The problem is people have been burned so much now that when you trot a brown lesbian with disabilities in their macho action game they just check out immediately and have no interest. They see the signs of shite and they see it here.People are done with this shit, it is not only not selling games, its actively PREVENTING sales of otherwise decent games when people see it, and thats a good thing, its not enough to just make a good game you have to specifically NOT do this shite.
>>750212317>mental gymnastics just to confirm his biasThis is low IQ shitskin behaviour on your end. Kotaku is now factual source according to this board.
>300 million>400 million>500 millionIt's funny how the cost keeps going up every week with a new "source". It definately lost money but I highly doubt it's one of the most expensive games ever made.
>>750212517The industry will never understand that though, because you're talking about creativity and soul, while those companies are slaves to clinically retarded investors, you cannot fathom how unbelievably stupid the average rich person is, absolute mongoloids, anything that isn't "this number is bigger than before number, trust" confuses and scares them. They need to be shilled graphic improvements because "16 times the detail" is the only thing they slightly understand. It's also why all studios have 600 employees, because hiring useless DEI hires makes investors happy and trust you, while firing those useless fucks gets the investors scared. Think of investors like a really retarded, down syndrome, blind bird with a heart condition.
THEYRE SINKING THE STUDIO WITH A GIANT WORRRRM
>>750198186I feel like shilling evolved from journalism to betting ratings and hoping nobody actually talks to or watches any actual human being who plays the shit games in question.
>>750198430It is best gears of war since original trilogy tactics and hivebusters. I would put it in fourth place after the 3 original ones.
>>750201207did you even play the game or see credits on youtube, no indians involved in that game. No indian names in credits, and credits a long ass 30 minutes long.
>>750198430It was good, act 2 and 4 have you drop on a horde siege map but I like the game overall. Horde puts me on laggy hosts sometimes and multiplayer is super swaty
>>750198186>You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up,You put the fries in the bag and salt them all up
>>750198186Why does every AAA game now cost half a billion? Are they retarded?
>>750198186I love Gears of War, but it doesn't need a $500m budget. I'm not convinced that's how much it cost, but I can say with 100% certainty that they could have made a MUCH better game for MUCH less than they spent.I find it tragic how obvious it is what fans WANT, and the people making games DELIBERATELY don't make it. It's like they've gone to war with their fans, and then act surprised and butthurt when they lose money and their jobs. Its simply absurd.
This was honestly one of the most depressing games I've ever played and I've never played the OG gears games. It feels like a pale shadow of Halo Reach, or like one of those sequels floundering immediately after the big seventh gen shooter trilogies. It's not even that bad, it's just nothing. No emotional weight, no interesting gameplay, nothing. What they did with Horde Mode was midlly like "oh that's kinda neat" but not enough to stick with. Felt like the obituaries for the 360 shooter era.
>>750204068And? Wolverine was last months flop and that shit cost like 300 million. Companies piss away cash on budgets these days
>Gears of War 2 is the best-selling entry in the franchise, peaking at 6.75 million copies worldwideHow can you justify authorizing such a large budget when the best-selling gears game couldn't even cover the current development costs? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE
>>750213524XBOX is BACK baby!
>>750213524>Chuds are on the rise and most millennial xbox bros who had the most fun shittalking and explaining how they would rape someone's mom over xboxlive are now of spending age>How can we milk this untapped demographic?>LET'S HIRE TRANNIES, COMMIES AND LEFTOIDS TO WRITE A STORY OF HOW A DYKE IS THE BEST GEAR EVER AND LET'S MAKE THE GAME ALL ABOUT HER!they deserve to be fired
>>750198464Can you handle the truth?
>500 mil.I'd still be embarrassed even if it was a huge hit.
>>750198934more dei consultants
>>750211109Part of it was the make-up style. The way they do it now is very different. It's heavy and trend-following so they all look like clones. More importantly, the caked-on layers mask individual characteristics. A wrinkle here, a dimple there, the shape of the eye and mouth itself. All covered by a mask of 6 layers of make-up. It hides everything that makes a face unique. Also, photo filters are fucking out of control. Filters are permanently ingrained into digital photo processing. You can't turn them off. Like, if you take a picture of your desk right now, and look at the picture, you will see crumbs and flecks of dust that are barely visible to the naked eye. But in the photo, they're practically neon. "Enhancement", they call it. And the way those filters impact a person's appearance only add to that 'clone' feeling. It's like applying another layer of make-up on top that is identical for every single person, furthering masking individuality. Even photos from the late 90s and early 2000s were pretty good. Once digital photography became king, that's when the difference becomes really noticeable.
>>750198186TOP THE CHARTS!
>>750211358This is one of the most retarded things I've read on 4chan. For one, that girl is stunning. Two, she looks nothing like someone with fetal alcohol syndrome. I mean *nothing*. Where are you even getting that from?
>>750213524Because it probably started with a budget of $150m. Then dev team ballooned in size, not talent just headcount and payroll, and gets delayed. It used to be 1 administrator for 10 people. Now you have more like 1:1 or even more people not making your game than are. Same shit that happened to education.
>>750210497what's happening with that glass, why is it so pixelated?
>>750199078I'm on PC though
>>750198464I know people hate Jason Schreier; and he can be an annoying twat; but he does a good job explaining why games cost so much and why it takes a while.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvhmBqRjtBQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cBz8J9OWchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y3Gx_Aw2Oo
>>750215243I'm sure he'd do a good job if his voice wasn't nails on a chalkboard and his writing infuriating.
>>750213524b-but anon, the mocap suits and face rendering technology.....all that costs money, right?
>>750198274I'm just taking it day by day. It's a lot but we've earned it. It's hard doing nothing
>>750215337His writing doesn't bother me, and his voice ehhhh. But I do recommend checking out the videos. He breaks down how much of a clusterfuck game development has become.
The gaming industry is so bloated and expensive that games are developed that have no profitability.This is what it looks like during a crash, which is exactly what's happening. Dozens and dozens of studio layoffs every single year.People keep saying they want the videogame industry to crash, as if it's going to be some major historic event, when in reality, it's just this slow rot from within. A leper whose body is wasting away.I for one, say good fuckin' riddance. Try making some good fuckin' games.
>>750214692>like>like>likeThat's like racist and shiet like yeah that's pretty heavy stuff like don't do this okay?
Where do you people draw the hope from that a AAA industry collapse would actually lead to something new and good? All I can see in future is Gacha, GAAS and Mobileshite
>>750215549That is good. Then real gaming will be a hobby for freaks again and A/AA games will have an opportunity to truly thrive. Right now the main problem is that any space for "gaming" immediately gets infected with normoid shit because normoids buy AAA and astroturfed slop. Remove AAA, you remove the normies. Remove the normies, you get rid of woke corporatism and casino slop. The normies are already migrating from casino games to crypto/sports casino slop.
>>750198347and thats months old article
>>750198186You're a moron if you believe the budget was that high
>>750198347Did you forget first Destiny?
Concord sold like 5000 copies and refunded all of them. Really doubt it was that bad.
>>750215243>but he does a good job explaining why games cost so much and why it takes a whileLiterally all he does is offer a bit of napkin math and stretches it to fill time. Seriously, anyone with half a brain can do it themselves. >studio is located in expensive big city>people work there need to make a lot of money to live>x people cost y per month which is z and now we multiply that by 12>now we ROUGHLY know what a game costs to make in a year>YOU SEE THAT'S A LOTNo aliases to protect sources, no behind the scenes knowledge. For fucks sake, if you follow the industry at all and have watched a couple post mortem presentations or keynote speeches you already know more than this ratfuck retard spews in a video. There are no pearls of wisdom.
>>750216258Star Citizen is more akin to a cult. You pay so you one day may get to the promised land/ play the game of your dreams.Why this business model works so well I have no idea. It's not like Elite Dangerous doesn't exist and is playable.
>>750198372With a budget of $500 million It was doomed from the start. Gears is a washed out series from a bygone era that even without the franchise rape that was Gears 5 was way past its prime. There was no way it would sell 10M copies or whatever it needed to recoup the costs. That said the game looked promising and people were interested, it could have been a successful rivival, serving as a stepping stone for a reboot or a remakeslop trilogy. I mean there still is market for violent dudebro cover shooters as Space MArine 2 showed. But they couldn't help themselves, could they? Instead everyone saw the butch lesbo girlboss shit and decided to pass, this will forever be this game's legacy.
>>750216682And the solo version of the game, squadron 42, is an unapologetic snoy movie-game where in the first 5 hours there are 3 hours of cutscenes, and you just know it's the whole DEI buffet with black female scientists and girlbosses everywhere. It's amazing to me that so many braindead normies think "you know what my favorite part of space fiction is? It's the realistic travel time of a gorillion years between everything"
>>750216753>butch lesbo girlbossWho also has a literal tits chopped off armor, has asthma, gives orders to everyone, and is attempting to look cool by constantly berating the young guy recruit who somehow is the one constantly panicking, not like our black qween.
>>750216857Listen, I don't pretend to understand the market. Back in my day, you bought games as "finished" products. Yes, there could be bugs but the game part was all there and the developer certainly didn't spend years completing it.
>>750215549in ten years we'll al have a glut of post ai-boom cards which make making games so easy that we'll have AAA fangames to play and never need gears but with unlikeable extra characters added ever again. pain forecast until then tho.
>>750215439>doing nothingwe had years and years of battles made of shitposting on twitter
>>750198430Less content than Gears 3, a fifteen year old 360 game made on a much smaller budget.
>>750198347gears e day was in development for 7 years, xbox probably did not expect the game to take this long.
>>750217182You could have done nothing and achieved the same.Only a fool would try to combat a storm by kicking the wind.
>>750216753>>750214692>blowing half a billion on fat negresses and troonsit's amazing how little oversight these development teams have regarding budget
>>750215243chatgpt summarize these videos for me
>>750217013this is what gamers want
>>750215549best case scenario? shareholder divestment resulting in the return of AA and indie
>>750198274I will continue to do nothing.
>>750204385except you don't have any preaching shit in the gamethe worst you have is mags
>>750218227Exxtremely realistic and valid.t. Pissed Pablo
>>750218227It's crazy I usually have the urge to pirate and play woke vidya trainwrecks to see firsthand how bad it gets and milk for webms, I played Saints Row, Forespoken, Dustborn and Veilguard but this year I had zero interest in touching Halo CE or E-Day, it's like I don't even have it in me to laugh at wokeslop anymore.
>remember when /v/ mocked TORtanic for having an absurd budget>now every new game is even more expensive to make
>>750198186Go woke go bro- err get laid off LMAO
>>750212517investors are largely retarded gambling addicts who think the more money that goes into something the more likely a big payout
>>750217124>>750216857>>750216682You're gonna be so assblasted when it comes out and is great.
>>750218898It's your show, wrap it up
>>750218930It's your cope, wrap it up.
>>750217773sure tranny, we will never fill your replies with slurs an' shit next time
>>750198186chuds always win
>>750198186Reminder, the tranny who worked on this game was recently promoted to a position at fucking microsoft so asha wouldnt fire xhis ass. That tranny is fucking or has dirt at someone there, it is how these fags gets promoted.
>>750198274It's hard, the battle was very hard-fought, but I shall persevere by continuing to do nothing.
>>750198274But I didn't do anything
>>750219441That tranny is one of the most competent person at working with Unreal Engine 5, that's why The Coalition is not even going to get shit canned and why they had a 500$ million budget, that's the cost of running a whole studio that not only worked in their own game but also in multilpe studios as the brunt of the tech support. >Worked on Gears 5 post launch support and campaign DLC>Development on Gears Tactics and Gears Pop>Had to help 343i ship Halo:Infinite before and after the original delay>Helped made Avowed with Unreal Engine>Helped inXile>Helped with the Perfect Dark Reboot that was cancelled>Helped Undead Labs with State of Decay 3 being made into UE 5>Helped Ninja Theory with Hellblade 2>Made the UE 5 tech demo The Matrix Awakens with Epic Games because a lot of ex-Epic devs from the Gears 3 days are still working at TC and know better the ins and outs of UE than even some people at current Epic>Made the Gears UE port to PS5>Helped Halo Studios with the Halo CE remake>Made E-DayThat's where all the $500 went and that's why the tranny was promoted, he got E-Day running in a Series S, from a technical standpoint The Coalition are the most talented devs Xbox has
How publishers haven't realized that audiences aren't kept from one game to the next is honestly incredible.
>>750198186CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY NOW MAKING ANY GAME OR MOVIE COST 5000 TRILLION DOLLARIDOOS
>>750198865Bro the cultural industry of the western world is centralized in California All the faggy studios in other big cities are just offshoots of the gay franchise that has its Semitic monopoly in the US Silicon valley neighbourhood
>>750222360It's what cost running a AAA studio, the game itself is a fraction of that cost
>>750201073Thats how I feel. I literally did not know there was a gears of war 4 or 5 until this game was revealed. I thought it was weird to revive a series that died like 2 decades ago with judgement, come to find out its been getting regular installments
>>750205253I think Mags is really bland but is not like the worst offender, just in the last game, Kait was MUCH worse, same with the likes of Jinn. That ODST from the Halo Remake is also much worse, or Sarah Palmer from Halo 4 comes to mind too. Mags in comparation is meh, she just talks too much.
>>750198186THEY NEED TO BRING BACK CLIFFY B TO INJECT SOME TESTOSTERONE INTO THE NEXT ONE
>>750198186How much of that 500 million went into brown Stacey's having their 7 daily "snack and networking" breaks?Is it over or under the costs of their mandatory weekly training for doing the needful from the finest punjabi instructor sirs?
>>750211039someone should invest if sony and microsoft are using their gaming division for money laundering.
>>750205879They had to build an entirely new engine for the game and then they took 2 years off to work on halo infinite. I could see costs getting out of control for coalition
>>750212768Retard lmao
>>750221671>he got E-Day running in a Series S, from a technical standpointI don't think how that's a technical accomplishment when UE5 does virtual texturing for you for free, along with comprehensive LoD controls and other "dumb down pointless shit that hogs RAM/GPU time" settings like their fucking Lumen.
>>750223063You gotta be fucking retarded to put this shit in your game in 2026. The shit that people are willing to tolerate is much much lower than it used to be, pozzed tranny flags in MP used to be in virtually every game but suddenly became a big deal when E-Day did it too. Putting that shit in your game is like suddenly reaching for your pocket next to a cop that's visibly on edge and thinks you're up to some bad shit. What do you expect to happen?
>>750198372These games always have to have ethnics, I mean the beaner and the black were there since the beginning
>>750198186It didn't lose more than Concord cause they had the same budget but Concord literally only sold like 2000 copies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeD3Hi5SZU
>>750224546Concord was actually negative sales because they had to refund that shit while still eating the costs for running the servers.
>>750224340I think the whole ordeal is way blown out of proportion, is the most benign example that I can think recently, mostly because E-Day is the only big AAA game I have played day one in 5 years so my reaction when playing was "That's it?, I've seen WAY worse." I also think it's because I'm not american so the whole woke and grifter shit seems insane to me.
>>750201741No, that's Space Marine 2, a game that Eday wishes it was even half as good as.
>>750226476Space Marine 2 doesn't the Gnasher, the sexiest shotgun in vidya, so is not a better game than E:Day
>>750198186so how is that possible? do they just get a blank check and there is no oversight over what they are actually building?
>>750199078Finally my 10 year old nephew can play some toddler hits
>>750210497>white guy protag in the biggest game everChuds won.
>>750228493>*sits on a chair and watches*>Chuds won
>>750198186I wonder if The Coalition have been engaging in illegal hiring practices as well?
>>750198186>I somehow caused this>Through having a sense of tasteI'm not going to take credit for these people setting themselves on fire. They did it to themselves.
>>750198430Gameplay wise it's great, Story wise it's decent but you can tell the priority's of the devs was to jerk off Mags in the third and 4th acts and I say that as someone who think she's ok.Also the Semi open world sections were a drag, not to mention kind of gimmicky
>>750198274>chuds keep winning
>>750198430It's not terrible, but there are things like an "open world", weapon upgrades, and collectathon elements pinging you every 2 minutes that simply don't belong in a gears game. I'm personally not a fan of the verticality & jumping, but I can see how someone might like those.Millennial writing, forced girlbossing, etc. has been discussed to death already, but I personally checked out when Mags pulled out the nebulizer. You just know someone started with the question of how to insert an asthmatic into the game and then found a convenient excuse in rustlung.The whole campaign is like a skinwalker where some of it is great and faithful to the established lore but then other random retcons or nonsensical elements are shoehorned in and completely knock you out of it, like throwing together the "proto" Lancer in 5 minutes by some random quartermaster when it was well established that Adam Fenix created it.I think a lot of sentiment is the frustration that the concept of an E-day game was stellar and we only received a 6/10.
>>750198274By doing nothing.
>>750198430Don't listen to the other anons, it's outright the worst campaign. They re-use the same areas again and again. There are literally three whole chapters where you fight on the same bridge three separate time, the same exact bridge, three times. Three whole chapters. Not kidding. Also there's way too many cunty women in the game. Aesthetically it just felt unimaginative, it didn't do anything that Gears 1 didn't do far better. There were no memorable areas or chapters in terms of level design in aesthetics. Remember the worm from 2? Or the red sand part from 5? Or the stone ruins from 3? There's nothing "weird" or "memorable" or "out there" in this one, it's just the same crumbling city going through the same parts of the same level at different points in time. I understand the intention might have been to show you the city decaying as the invasion progresses, but it makes for a dull repetitive experience. Everyone shits on 4 but 4 is honestly much more fun and memorable than this.
>>750198398You know that niggers have more of it than normal men?
>>750233107niggers are obsessed with shoes and jewelry i know
>>750198430Not terrible its more open worldy. The end boss fight is absolute ASS and sucks and the bridge level was reused like 3 times
>>750198274Its pretty easyAs Tolkien saidEvil just eats itself.
>>750210497Why is that thing such a butterface
>>750218692Obese Oberto
>>750214692>We don't have the budget to release the game in a finished state or have it optimized or to make the visuals good, but we do have the budget to pay a fat negress $500 an hour to tell us what gives her the yikes
>>750226680Faggot lol
>>750228620Dumb faggot
>>750203849>It was real in my mind
>>750198186the game was a successeverything is fine
>>750198186metacritic scores have been useless for years now that the vidya industry is literally bigger than the entire Film and Music industries COMBINED.There's too much money in videogames and there's not a century+ old culture of being highly critical of them the way there is for movies. Movie critics can dogwalk a shitty movie and give it a 2/10 without being blackballed by the industry, there's not an Access Journalism problem with films in the same way there is with videogames, and there's not the same FOMO issues since people don't sink hundreds of hours into them, they're ultimately disposable and whether you see something opening weekend or a month after it's in theaters it's still the same movie, so there's not billions poured into media campaigns trying to make you convinced you need to pre-order it, ignore all negative reviews, and then also sink hundreds of hours in while buying every DLC and swiping in the cash shop When a well known film critic dunks on a terrible movie it's treated as being cultured and having standards, when you dunk on a terrible videogame with the same awful writing or pacing issues you're told LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS, I'M HAVING A BLAST, IT'S NOT MADE FOR YOU etc
>>750228620>if I spam it 2000 more times it means I wonKek, you're going to lose so bigly come November
>>750237372woke won lil broyou lost hardnow cope and seethe for me
>>750200093WOMEN AND USELESS ADMIN JOBS! THESE GIANT COMPANIES ARENT STAFFED BY MORE CODERS BUT JUST MORE USELESS ADULT DAYCARE NON-JOBS GETTING PAID TO GO TO MEETINGS AND MAKE TIKTOK VIDEOS!
>>750198186question to people with a playstationwould you buy Gears if it released on it
Western (see American) video gaming seems to be collasping. Even Japanese video gaming isn't doing as hot as it used to. Are we gonna leave things to China and Korea?
>>750198186besides all the woke shit, how does a mid game like this that looks like a regular 360 title cost 500 mil to make? a couple of people got really rich from this disaster.
>>750198186>Marcus listen to me there are women out there fighting for us! we must recruit them, it's the only way we'll end this mad world.
>>750222051I mean, they used to be, when it was a year or two between releases at most.6-10 years is move on and/or grow-up amounts of time. I think they've forgotten that happens. The execs only see the audience as large numbers on paper after all, not living creatures that are subject to change.
>>750199064>these people generally make around 100k a yearlol if only. I went to school to be a level designer but never got into the industry since I had no experience, all my research said that entry level jobs for a level designer would be around $40-$45k to start off. Nowadays with inflation it’s probably more but even if you’re in a senior role you will pretty much always make more in a standard tech company and you can usually work remotely and save more money or live in a low cost of living area. This is just mismanagement and lies from the top down, saying you need that much money to make a lower effort product than what teams used to make 10-20 years ago. Gears 2 cost about 1/50th to make compared what this title did for instance.
>>750198347>been in development for 6-7 yearsPublishers started throwing ridiculous amounts of money at devs during covid when everyone started buying video games for that 1-2 year period because they were stuck indoors with nothing else to do, and the publishers retardedly assumed that line would continue to go up instead of their new, temporarily captive audience immediately shelving their consoles as soon as they could go back outside again (which they did).We've been seeing the fallout from that over the last few years with numerous big name titles coming out that have zero chance of recouping their development and marketing costs as a result.
>>750238407I'm starting to think these were never made for profits sake. No, not because mah expansion of the gaypass library
>>750237558I don't own any of the current gen consoles but I assume they're looking at as either>I haven't played any of the other Gears games so why would I want to jump in on the sixth one>sure it's a prequel but none of the other Gears games are on PS so I won't be able to play the others after finishing it so what's the pointor the classic fanboy response of>lol xbox microshart faggots sony stays winning XD i l-love w-wolverine i'm having a b-blast
>>750239335the average cost per employee will be well over 100k. this is an entry level job posting https://ca.linkedin.com/jobs/view/producer-gears-of-war-the-coalition-12-month-fixed-term-contract-at-microsoft-4480832775 for 90-130k CAD. a senior programmer will make over 180k plus benefits
>>750239974Cost per employee involves things like training, payroll tax, support infrastructure, power, equipment, insurance, it's not what you pay, from what I've heard from people literally running a company half of what they pay per employee is their wages.
>>750198274i have been exclusively playing 15+ year old games for a few weeks now.
>>750198372I would have bought it, pre-ordered it even if it didn't have all that garbage in it. Guess I should thank Mr. Raynard for saving me $100.
>>750198347Xbox was basically writing devs blank cheques under Phil.>Kiln exists
i-its not about the money! its about sending a message!11!
>>750198430Best game since 3 desu, it's a shame that everyone has a hate boner against it because if you enjoy Gears of War it's genuinely great.
>>750198186I think Lethal Company predicted the future, since if I was Microsoft, I would have the heads of these devs.
>>750199457LMAO might as well be the gaming version of Typhoid Mary
>>750214697make up today is actually fucked, its no different to geisha levels of make up
>ai can replace 90% of the workforce in a game dev company>costs still continue to rise
>>750200867>woke movieslop>pay
>>750245605trying to reduce overhead by reducing the workforce was never about trying to reduce overall costs and was always about finding more ways to funnel money into the pockets nepo middle managers and executives. everyone's just trying to get the last drops of blood out of their stone of choice before they're forced to bail
>>750198186The big takeaway is we have entered the new era of institutional capture. Thanks AI!Next the shills will say that VCS, LCS, and Chinatown were all good games because they have high ratings.
>>750198186Literally how did this cost $500M? Like I don't even understand how its possible to spend that much on something like thisBG3 was 10x the scale and quality and that had a budget of $100-200M
>>750198274The winning will continue until morale improves
>>750198347I don't understand it either. It's just an 8 hour campaign and tacked on multiplayer. Someone is scooping from the top and bleeding the investors out.
>>750198464Money laundering
>>750198398The natural amount of estrogen men have is supposed to be counteracted by high test. I fully believe there's a large portion of men (blacks are at the top of the list) with higher estrogen than test that make decisions for us on a daily basis. High estrogen individuals have been reported to be "less fair" in judgement calls than High test individuals. High test and fair decision making are highly correlated.
>>750198347these days, 80% of the budget is marketing
>>750198186Unironically the government should investigate these fuckers for money embezzlement.
>>750247219Any audit will only find a bunch of woke people who were okay with losing money legitimately. That's the thing. They don't care if the game bombs. It's not their money being thrown away, since they usually get paid regardless and have no trouble jumping ship to a new studio.
>>750198274>chudbros... how could we handle so much winning?with more winning, leftist devs and their r/gcj supporters just keep taking L's with non-stop flops back-to-back.Halo: Campaign EvolvedWolverineSilent hill: TownfallGears of War E DayCastlevania: Belmont's Curseupcoming flops: Fable, Witcher 4, Intergalactic etc.
>>750247459Witcher 4 should be fine. I'm genuinely curious to see if ND can sell Intergalactic Heretic Prophet in spite of Drucknmann's horrendous reputation at this point, though.
>>750247459mass effACKt did not even survive to release :)
>>750247630I'm predicting flop, unless they somehow massively course correct. Impossible with cuckman though, he's poisoned the well so thoroughly
>>750240267Based
>>750198274by doing nothing
>>750198186HOW???How can a game cost 500M?The lastest Avatar movie costed 400M.I'm starting to think AAA gaming is simply not sustainable
>>750206834I don't know who that is but yes he is ugly and therefore whatever his opinions/beliefs are are wrong.
>>750203945>The only 2 buzzwords you retards knowbut private equity am i right?
>>750198186Not a believable story. There is almost no marketing for this game. I exclusively hear about it here. Any game with a $100 million budget or higher gets plastered on everything. The only possible way I could imagine it was that expensive was if there was evidence that a rival corp paid hundreds of millions of dollars to suppress marketing.It's just a weird made-up story.
>>750198430I pirated it and it's actually good. Very solid 7/10 like the previous games
>>750198464Anon, nearly every game costs $10MPokemon SV cost over $11~13M iirc
>>750241829I don't have a hate boner against it, I just don't care. I have plenty of games to play that have great gameplay and that are far cheaper and aren't bogged down with cutscenes and boring movie garbage.
>>750198347At least half of that went straight into paying salaries for non-developer positions like HR, middle managers, SBI "consultants", in-house cafeteria, etc.
>>750201696Valve makes billions just from facilitating digital hat distribution, let alone PC game sales. If they didn't have the platform they could never be able to make shit like Deadlock or Steam OS.
>>750222360dei consultants aren't cheap
It actually cost $10 quadrillion dollars, and most of that was just cocaine that when straight into my asshole.
>>750198186>Lost more money than Concord.Seems bullshit>Looks it up>GoW-ED lost between 460-500 million before advertising is even factored in>Concord lost 400 million on the high endJesus Christ. Oh well, if every studio that pushes the message has to die for gaming to heal and everyone who worked on such projects gets financially destroyed? So be it.
>>750200798From the thumbnail, I thought the Jew was a plague doctor.
>>750198186How are these games so fucking expensive when it doesn't show anywhere
>>750198186How do you spend $500 million on a game that can be finished in less than 10 hours on a first playthrough.
>>750198274i dunnoim not doing anything
>>7502539037 years in development with a head count of around 300ppl, also include marketing, and the rent of the office unit. Ta-da, 500kk ezpz.
>>750253903>start with $350m budget>ask for $100m more or project dies>ask for $50m more to get to the finish line, we're so closeScamming investors through sunk cost is one of the oldest tricks and still works to this day
>>750198186The GAME doesn't cost even 1/10th of that to make, what costs money is the BULLSHIT. Why is a game studio 2,000 employees?????? an HR dept with 300 karens working from home, taking vacation benefits ect. Social media people, PR people. he list is endless, when there are like 12 MEN actually making the game. The entire industry is diseased and needs to die.
>>750253903I have a theory that there is a group of people that's really good at scamming rich boomers out of their money. >mr boomer games are now really expensive to make and require 500 people but the pay off is really good >repeat the process at multiple AAA companies>boomer ask his other boomer friends if their gaming studios also claim they need hundreds of people >they confirm>then they proceed to hire bunch of their friends and do nothing for years while being paid 6 figures>game does badly>oh well who cares we already made millions and boomers lost all their moneyIt's the only logical explanation to me.
>>750254825Boomers/investors don't actually lose their money. Since no real money was involved. It's usually loans from banks and when things don't work out they move the loans to a studio and then close/bankrupt it. After this the debt becomes taxpayers' responsibility.Ultimately, even if you didn't buy veilguard, eday, concord, you still paid for it albeit not a full price.
>>750198186Holy shit the Metacritic scores? But the Metacritic scores!My favorite game of all time is a literal IGN 3/10 :)
>>750201741Sorry, this game wasn't made for meI'm not the target audienceI couldn't buy it even if I wanted to
>>750201125I'm someone with zero understanding of graphic arts except using clipart a couple times in elementary school. Can you explain to me what makes graphical quality so expensive? I know studios aren't buying models from the unity store, so where does the money go? Are the computer programs THAT expensive? Or do they have to pay the artists a fuck ton? I'm retarded when it comes to this so I'm obviously missing something
How much of E-Days budget was dedicated to rendering that ugly bulldyke?
>>750255987Gears of War: E-DEI
>>750198186I never heard about this game. Nobody that I know heard about this game. This is the first /v/ thread I see about it. I haven't seen any big time youtuber mention it. Either I live in a bubble or this is really baffling. How do they make a $500 million game and nobody knows about it? Concord was literal meme all over the internet, and this is like a shadowdrop.
>>750256074>shadowdropMore like shadowslop.
>>750256020DEI? More like Don't Ever Invest lmao.
>>750216753Did the studio forget such concepts as core audience, target demographic and customer profile? Did all the recent years blunders, with Bud Light fiasco being top example, not teach them anything? I always imagined that in AAA projects they have entire teams doing detailed research about it.
>>750198186I don't really care that much about the woke, I care that they ruined horde for some bargain bin helldivers trash, versus is extremely barebones with barely any maps/no 1 life game modes and the gnasher is the least consistent piece of garbage it has ever been. Also there are no cute girls to play as.
>>750256349The problem is that just the core audience is simply too small when the sales goals are set to 5-10 million copies by publishers or parent companies. That's where the need for a broader appeal comes from.
>>750198347When you have a big project with nothing but women, DEI hires and outsourced Indians, everything balloons beyond the original scope. I would be surprised if AI is the only way these development hell games are getting finished.
>>750256498I think the core audience isn't that small since people want more over the top violent shooters like Space Marines 2.If their projected core audience is the disabled lesbian negroes/negrolovers, I doubt that audience will even play the game.
>>750200483based
>>750198430It's fine but the problem is that publishing yet another "brown and gritty third person cover shooter" was already a joke 20 years agoThere's a reason why so many of those 360-era GOW-clones felt the need to add a gimmick like gravity or terrain manipulation
>>750198347Making a game in one of the most expensive places on this planet does that. When you hire +500 locals who cost around 50-200k per year (+thousands more indians), shit gets expensive really fast.
>>750198186Control Resonant cost like 50 million and blows E-Day out of the water at every technical, gameplay and artistic level. I genuinely dont know what the money gets spent on in these situations.
>no hammer of dawn strikes in the last act while you escape the city.>no footage of dom's kids being killed or any images of dead kids for that matter.>no reunion between dom and maria. in fact, maria isn't shown or even heard at all.>dom barely says and does shit until literally the last act.>all we see of carlos is one still image. no cool flashback showing the good times between him and marcus to show us how much he loves him.>marcus only looks after dom because carlos makes him promise to, not because he wants to himself.>mags and reyes stealing the show in every other scene.It’s such a shame because the gameplay is actually fun.Also fuck the open world parts I swear. The linear segments mogged them hard.Also I think even if they fixed all the issues the game still wouldn’t have sold well simply because it’s and Xbox exclusive and no one owns xboxes, plus the series will always have the dude bro stigma it’s had since the 360 era.
>>750198430Core gunplay is good but the only caveat is you have to kinda nerf yourself in campaign and avoid using all the upgrades or you will breeze through it. The fucking torque bow counters literally everything and the injector makes you basically invincible for 10 secs every 30 seconds. The open world parts sucked. The linear parts were good. The horde and multiplayer I couldn’t get into. The writing was ass. Every character other than Marcus and Dom looked like shit. So honestly more negatives than positives but it’s worth a single play through if you’re willing to sub to gaypass for a month,
Someone explain why I couldn’t get into the multiplayer despite liking 3’s, 4’s, and 5’s.
>>750258115and the imulsion shotgun is just too fucking good on bosses. that said, its really hard to want to come back to eday and play it. its just.. boring.
>>750258167its an amalgamation of all the worst parts of the multi-player in those games combined into what it currently is.
