I don’t trust Steam to protect my access to the games I bought. Because over 90% of their catalog uses DRM and requires the Steam client, there is no guarantee they won't restrict access down the line.They haven't given me any reason to trust them. I don't trust them.>Inb4 muh legal licenseEverything you buy has a patent and copyright license you don't own them legally.GOG is a license yet you own the binary installer legally Steam games you cannot.
>>750199929thanks for informing us
>>750199929cool blog post, dude. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope you gave them a tip on your latest purchase and you also became a patron.
>>750199929So, just download your games.
>I don’t trust Steam to protect my access to the games I bought. And yes I did BUY them. They are MY games that I OWN. If I pay legal tender for a product I own it simple as. No amount of legal jargon or calling it a revocable license will change this morally.I own it just as much as I own food I bought at a restaurant even if I don't own the recipe or an ice cream from an ice cream shop.This is like saying I don't truly own a tool I buy from a hardware store because I legally cannot replicate it with Chinese clones and slap their logo on them selling hundreds out of my garage. Of course I own it. So why should I buy for my company that does not respect my ownership in tries to tip toe around this issue.
That's cool, Timmy
>>750199929Ok epigjeet
>>750199929thanks for the TED talk, Tim
Epic games and steam are the same as Sony.No company is your friend if they do not let you have ownership and the guarantee that you can play your games always offline forever just like you can use a tool forever until it breaks or you lose it. That is ownership.
>>750200264>I own it just as much as I own the table and the chair at a restaurantNo. They are at your disposal, but don't belong to you. Once you leave the restaurant (or it closes) you can no longer access them.
>>750199929>Because over 90% of their catalog uses DRMNo, 99% of games don't use any DRM and can be de-Steamed with an open-source tool from Github
>>750199929just pirate it if they "restrict access"
>>750199929Your rights are better protected with a true private company like Steam risking their pocket with their reputation than a Jewish corporate owned by the gov
>>750199929Even if they restrict access, most publishers understand that excessive DRM harms the game, so if you still have the files you can crack the DRM.>Everything you buy has a patent and copyright license you don't own them legally.>Disinfoposting/PajeetpostingI refuse to believe that anyone is this uneducated about copyright. There is no patent license involved here, only copyright. If you're in the EU, then you own the game legally in the same way that you own a book that you have bought.
>>750200645Wrong. Tables and chairs are not a product you buy they are complimentary. The food is what you're paying for and you own that and then take it to go AKA eat it when you get home AKA always offline forever.>>750200832And if you can no longer access the files or can not find a clean rip of the game then what?
>>750199929if steam ceased to exist tomorrow I'd have my favorite games installed and running again within the monthfiguring out what you like and whats worth devoting your time to is the hard part, once you've gotten that out of the way nothing is gonna keep you from your favorite titles
>>750201362So go ahead and try to copy and sell off brand Chinese tools with another company's logo out of your garage and see what happens if nothing really has a patent or copyright. Just because you don't own the right to the game assets and licensing does not mean you do not own the actual game files legally in your possession because you paid for them. They can try to enforce morally unjust revocable licenses but everybody agrees if you buy something you own it it is that simple.You own it just as much as you own a tool you bought from the hardware store or a car you've bought or food you bought. It is legal ownership.
>>750201409>The food is what you're paying forBut games aren't the food in this analogy, retard.If you go to the movies, do you own the movie? Of course not. If you visit a theme park, will you become its CEO? Definitely not. But for some reason you folks think that you own "your" Steam games. And that's dumb.
How many times a day must we have this thread?
>>750199929Steam's standard DRM is so easy to bypass that Steam itself tells companies not to consider it DRM, and to look for other solutions if they want to protect their games from piracy.You can download Goldberg Emulator right now, and all you basically need to do is copy the right DLL from its folder into the folder of the game you're interested in. Then, just double-click the executable, and the game will run even without Steam open.By the way, I suggest that everyone try doing this with at least one game to learn how it works. You never know when you might lose your Internet connection or something like that.
>>750201657>i suggest download my jewish spyware! sure buddy, i'll get right on that.
>>750199929My Steam account is 21 years old; I don't give a fuck.
>>750199929Just take off your tinfoil hat and be normal. The only realistic scenario where Steam dies and all your games disappear is if there's a WW3 at nuclear level destruction scale, and at that point you should probably be more worried about the nukes.
>>750199929ONETWOTHREE FOURFIVEEPIC SHILLS WORKING OOOVER-TIME
>>750201813it won't die but the mooment gave dies the enshittification seethe will be glorious
>>750199929>I don’t trust Steam to protect my access to the games I bought.stopped reading there, you are a nigger retard. i have never ONCE not been able to launch one of my games.
>>750199929This is equally as retarded as saying "I don't trust the police not to bust into my house and steal my games"
>>750201609Steam games and content are priced that make them distinct from one time temporary experiences like a movie or a theme park and those services provide unique things like a bigger screen or millions of dollars worth of infrastructure for those rides. Nobody seriously believes that going to a movie gives you the right to own the movie.However buying a Blu-ray from the store does mean you own it just like buying a game from Steam in the context of a full price game means you fucking own it it is that fucking simple. No matter what legal jargon licensing shit they make up.I pay full price for a product I own it it is that simple. If I'm not renting it under any context and I'm paying full price I own it as a full product it is that simple.
>>750201861this the kikes are already frothing at the mouth to worm their way into valve and make it public once the fat fuck is out of the way
>>750199929yeah but you can't do shit about it so... and the way things are going now we likely won't have local access to cheap, open compute.
>>750199929True. Only portable versions for me.
>>750201813Steam won't go anywhere but it will be enshitified just like Netflix and Sony. You can argue this is already happening with steam after the failure of their steam machine and the removal of games such as horses and credit card verificationFirst it will be ID verification. Then it will be removal of games for light censorship which is already happening. Then it will be heavy censorship removal of games. Then it will be an outright subscription service. And people will cope and pay for it because where else are you going to get multiplayer games from you will pay the subscription.
>one of the few good services left>constant threads all about REEEE SOON YOU WILL BE AS RAPED AS ME YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY >anon starts spinning up entire timelines where reality conforms to fit anon's ideal doomfag scenarioThis isnt healthy
>>750199929Cool. Go replace steamapi.dll and copy your games. What do you want, a cookie?
>>750201409>if you cannot find a clean rip of the game then whati'll think about it when it happens. it's never happened before and is even less likely to happen in the future.no reason to make contingency plans over stuff that has a basically zero chance of happening
>>750201861I don't see how they can enshittify it in a realistic way that doesnt rape them up and open them up for vulture competition to eat up space and take over. Plus I don't think Gabe is as great as people think he is, he is just a weird autist that fucks off on yachts and jerks off in VR porn all day. I don't think he does much in Valve nowadays, Valve just in general has a good culture and is a tight-knit company that young gabe built well. Him dying won't change much, Valve understands the "do nothing, win" strategy works for you when you got the monopoly and they're very sustainable and profitable as a company. And even in a case scenario where in one of a gazillion universes steam does go to shit, you can simply just take all your installed games and crack them in like five minutes with steamless and goldberg or have AI reverse engineer a crack for you in the future locally in 2 mins.
>>750202064>horsesThe devs got banned from multiple stores to get outrage marketing.>CC verificationIs being required by law.
>>750202064>ID Verificationmost likely only for regions where that's mandated by law, and only for NSFW games. Not an issue, if you want to play porn games, you can give your ID, you had to use your card to buy the games anyway and Steam is proprietary blackbox so you had no privacy ever in the first place.>removal of games for light censorshipPretty much doesn't happen, no I don't care that a random meme bestiality or loli game got removed, I don't play that shit anyway. Slippery slope arguments are a meme and I cba debating it.>heavy censorship removal of gamesslippery slope meme>outright subscription servicePress X to doubt, it literally killed XBOX. It's more expensive for corpos to rent you a computer in cloud than it is for them to sell you a overpriced PC.
>>750199929You just know this thread was made by a furious tendie from one of those jailbreak threads hoping PCfags would get mad like him over piracy.Nope. Do what you want. Dont trust steam? Sensible, go pirate. The end.
>>750202165Okay so you're basically a shill. Nothing in the horses game that was censored was any worse than anything else on Steam. So valve is now picking and choosing what games to censor. And you're proud that they are bending to laws? Sorry but steam is getting enshitified. I'm literally just too early which means I'm also high IQ. Only retards can't see things in the future.The subscription services going to come and you'll pay it because that's where all your games are and you'll pay happily 15 a month for it but it was free and you'll pay it because where else are you going to play your multiplayer games.
>>750199929you download game files from bothon steam you have to copypaste them and crack them and you get the same thing as a gog installerand in exchange you get the best games service in existencethere is no downsideif anything you should be more worried about gog going out of business now that cdpr sold it for pennies
>>750202365>cdpr sold it for penniesWait, what?
>>750202325Horse's devs were fags who were trying to pick fights with multiple stores to market themselves. They got blocked from more storefronts than just steam. Their game was a fucking assetflip bro cmon.
>>750201720That’s really cool, subhuman.Keep jumping into video game threads on video game boards and lying that open-source emulators are actually spyware, just to keep some consumers from trying to gain more control over the products they buy. This is totally normal and healthy behavior.And there’s no point in trying to cover it up later by saying it was just an epic troll. Once a disgusting, subversive subhuman, always a disgusting, subversive subhuman. It’s your destiny.
>>750202325>It's totally coming! You'll pay for laughing at me!You really are just another consolecuck projecting and lashing out, huh?Which color team did you come from, blue or red?
>>750202408https://www.gamesindustry.biz/cd-projekt-red-sells-gog-platform-to-co-founder-for-25-million
>>750202517>Mike Kicinski who founded CDPR and GOG is now the sole owner of GOGOk so literally a nothingburger
>>750202670>nothingburgercdpr thought that they prefer $25 mil over any potential profit going forwardthat's how close to death it is
>>750201901>priced>full price>full priceSo your argument is, that just because you pay "full price" on something, you should also own it? WTF does that even mean? Movie tickets and trips to fucking Disneyland are even more expensive than (some) games, so how does that factor into your retarded philosophy on "owning" games?>buying a Blu-ray from the store does mean you own itYeah, you own the disc, that is true. Similarly you owned game discs in the past. But then you started using Steam. And became a rentoid.
>>750202743>Mike Kicinski, founder of CDPR sold GOG to Mike Kicinski, founder of GOG and now is its sole ownerOk. Yeah. This is very bad. Its totally not the CEO moving money from one bank account to another
>>750201409Start making backups now if you live in that kind of delusion where you think that stuff will just disappear suddenly. Or start giving a shit about politics and your rights.
>>750199929I got steam back in like 2002 and my first game was half life 2. I still have access to it and can play it. Not sure what the scare is after decades of them providing access to games. Id only be scared if all of a sudden I dont have access to a single game.
>>750201901I can flip this and say if you lost your copy of the movie, you no longer own it and you dont have access to it. This doesnt mean you can go get another copy of it for free. You are not protected against you somehow losing it nor does the company insure you.
>>750201409>what if every disc, computer drive and bit in the entire universe are destroyedYou have bigger problems to worry about then your steam library in that schizophrenic imaginary scenario
>>750203071Well good thing on the rare chance that GOG shuts down I will own my games forever on an installer that I am legally the owner of. That binary installer is legally my backup.If steam shuts down you are fucked and you are basically forced to break the law to get any games you paid for that has steamworks, which is the majority. And there will probably be some kind of huge backlash and fallout. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody reverse engineers the steam client with AI and takes all the DRM out so you can play your games forever because if valve is not going to do it and they're going to be shitty to their customers then somebody's going to do it You can't ignore that people are uneasy about censorship and age verification right now I'd be very worried if I had all my games on Steam if I were you
>>750204774>If steam shuts down you are fuckedThats a big "if" to worry about. You would never put any money down to bet on steam shutting down within the next couple of decades.
>>750204774>if i keep installers but don't make backups of steam games then i can lose more from steamand if you shoot your left hand but keep your right hand intact then your right hand will be better offwhat a retarded assumption
>>750204774Yea and if the internet were to go down all of a sudden then I could tell everyone I wasnt crazy for hoarding a bunch of text books
>>750204774How does steam shutting down remove the files on my PC or otherwise makes it illegal to own them?
>>750202812They are temporary services not products. You are paying for the experience. They provide a service you cannot get at home. Ever wonder why a theatre has 100+ seats, because it's a service einstein
>>750204774>breaking the lawSaying moddding my purchased and downloaded game files is illegal is fucking hilarious >I wouldn't be surprised if somebody reverse engineers the steam client with AI and takes all the DRM out so you can play your games forever because if valve is not going to do it and they're going to be shitty to their customers then somebody's going to do itSomeone alreayd did that. It doesnt even use AI and removes the steam client entirely from the equation! You may have heard of it, it's called Goldberg.>You can't ignore that people are uneasy about censorship and age verification right now Those would be consolecucks like you. Because they cant do jack shit about it. Snoys cannot bypass picrel. Tendies cannot decensor VNs.>I'd be very worried if I had all my games on Steam if I were youCool. Your concerns have been noted.
>>750199929Still having problems attracting gamers to your platform, Tim?
>>750205053Steam client kick you out, breaks. No online. No longer plays games. You launch game, no work, error.Have to break DRM to play game. You now break law. Steam no more.Grug have game no more.
>>750205065>You are paying for the experience.Just like on Steam, yes.
>>750205227what exactly went on in your head where you have to pretend this exact same logic doesn't apply to gog?
>>750205227>Steam client kick you out, breaks. No online. No longer plays games. You launch game, no work, error.Menawhile in reality, you can be disconnected and signed out of steam and your installed games will still workWatching consoletards seethe about Steam is such a trip lol
>>750199929Cheap>Gog>Idon'tgiveafuck>stillhaven'tinstakledegsyet
>>750205309Wrong. you are paying for individual products. They used buy before and had to change it. Still doesn't change the morality.All things you buy are revocable licenses in that case, every single product you buy at the store because you don't own the patents or copyright associated with the food or things you buy.Games are permanent products just like anything else you buy.
Problem with GOG is that the library of games is just too small as most publishers refuse to make their games drm-free at fear of piracy, even if it's retarded. But I could live with that, GOG has most of games I care about, Skyrim, FO4, Witcher Trilogy, DAO, KotOR, Metro Trilogy, Stalker, Stardew Valley, DOOM, etc. The actual biggest problem is that often times games will come, but they wont recieve all the future updates and DLCs, which effectively ruins them for preservation and especially modding. I understand it's not GOG's fault, but this is the same meme as linux. I understand it's not linux's/gog's fault that I can't play games I want or do it easily, but it's also not my fault that windows/steam can so I pick that.
>>750205412GOG doesn't have DRM, you own the binary installer legally under copyright in the US. You own it forever as a legal backup. They can ban your account revoke your license but since you acquired the binary lawfully it's yours. Same with blurays or any other physical media. You own the contents on the disc and the physical item, but not the property or copyright
>>750205779>Same with blurays or any other physical media. You own the contents on the disc and the physical item, but not the property or copyrightNobody tell him these things use DRM too
whats the alternative? every console is foregoing true physical (with the possible exception of first party nintendo) and gog only gets ancient or bottom of the barrel games. other launchers like epic will never be in the discussion
>>750205923They are always offline forever.And yes if you break encryption it is illegal.Though a gog installer or bluray are both ownership because they both do not require any internet or an account. They are always offline forever.Steam by default is not always offline forever. It has DRM. That's the difference.
>>750205227>steam goes offline>can still play my games fine???
As soon as Gaben dies steam is going straight down the shitter
>>750206252>what is steam offline modeYou're quite the hypocrite, arent you?
>>750205692>Wrong.Wrong. You having a melty doesn't make it right.
>>750205779so you saved 30 seconds on breaking DRMis that really your argument?
>>750206252I went on a work trip and had no internet for a solid month and I could play my games just fine in offline mode.
>>750201657>You never know when you might lose your Internet connection or something like that.Offline mode should work though.
>>750206252>Steam by default is not always offline forever. It has DRM. That's the difference.>loginusers.vdf>wantsofflinemode 1>Read-onlySorry kid. Take a big hit from your copium tank and try something else when you're sober
>>750206252Steam client doesnt do that, that is completely up to the game publisher to apply that. You can quite literally disconnect your pc from the internet and still play any game as long as that game doesnt require you to be connected.
>>750206534I hope Gaben would have a good eye for choosing the next person to run steam just like he has a good eye on how to run steam.
>>750202165>>750202325On Steam at least, Horses got banned for the same reason Tokyo Clanpools, DT2, or some other anime style titles got banned, Valve found a build submitted to them to be in violation of their sexualization of minors rules, which Valve will perma-ban a game for, even if it makes changes (which the developers did here). The developers then thought being a Western publisher instead of one of those "icky anime publishers" they could run a campaign to get the perma-ban reversed, but it was just as permanent for them as for most other perma-bans (and the publicity lead to the title being blocked elsewhere). Not that any of this is good, but it certainly wasn't new from Valve, aside from being a Western developer hit by this policy.
>>750206528Steam offline isn't offline. It still connects to the servers, also it kicks you out and you have to reconnect with internet after a certain period or an update gets pushed and still will queue updates. But stop goal posting.
>>750207135How can you guarantee the steam client will work forever. It's not open source. You can't.Heroic games launcher is open source, you can verify it has no online components. Also steam still isn't legal ownership.
>>750208010>It still connects to the serversNo it doesnt. Try disconnecting your pc from the internet, you will see you can still run steam client and games installed.
For some Valve bullshit, here is the ongoing saga of Venus Blood Ragnarok trying to release on SteamNovember 20, 2025>Now, as an addendum, due to the nature of STEAM's stringent checks of any submitted builds, the STEAM release date of VBRI will not be on the 26th, that will be the release date for JAST and the Japanese versions on DLsite and FANZA. >Therefore, if any of our backers who chose the STEAM version wish to switch over, we are offering to change your STEAM key to a JAST key for free until the game releases. Should you want to change your STEAM key to a JAST key, simply contact us via Kickstarter DM or Backerkit support. Thank you.December 25, 2025>As for the STEAM version of the game, we are still working on getting that sorted, unfortunately, and do not yet have an ETA on when it will release, though it should come early 2026. April 17, 2026>We understand that many of you were wondering about what is going on with the STEAM version of the game, and we would like to use this update to explain what the situation is currently like.>So far, builds sent in have failed to be approved, and we have been working on changing what we think are the problems with the build. This is, unfortunately, a rather grueling and time consuming process... >We have since sent our latest build in for the approval process once more and are currently awaiting the latest results. >We apologise profusely once more for the extended delay regarding the STEAM version of the game, and we are still accepting requests to change your STEAM key to a JAST key, valid until the STEAM release becomes available.>We will keep you all updated on the situation as it evolves. >Thank you all for your patience and understanding regarding this matter.
>>750207457Always offline ownership is defined as having no ability for your games to be taken away from you. Steam can take away your games, unless you crack them of course and by that point you might as well just own them on GOG or pirate.
>>750208196June 3, 2026>Update on the current status of the STEAM version of VBRI>And now we move on to something else important.>Our latest STEAM version submission was rejected, and we are currently working on some necessary changes to the STEAM version that should hopefully allow it to be accepted on our next submission.>We have been hard at work behind the scenes on preparing the next build in the meantime, and we estimate that our next build will be ready to be re-submitted to steam sometime next week. >That said, we unfortunately cannot estimate how long it would take for steam to check and hopefully approve it, so we can't quite give an ETA.>We apologise profusely for the lengthy wait for the STEAM version of VBRI, and we thank you for your understanding regarding the situation.October 9, 2026>For the STEAM English version of VBRI, unfortunately we are still stuck in a deadlock, and our team is still working on cutting out/editing the current STEAM build.>We understand that we have been stuck in this specific phase of the problem and that many of you are perhaps a bit tired of hearing the same thing but...Really, all we can do is tell it as it is, and we apologise profusely for the continued delay.>As always we are still accepting digital key change requests from STEAM to JAST if you want access to the game via Backerkit, just send us a DM on Kickstarter.>We apologise once again for the lengthy delay.
>>750208123>How can you guarantee the steam client will work forever.How can you guarantee anything will be forever you absolute retard. Do you buy a car thinking its going to run forever? Even consoles have a life expectancy
>>750208010>straight up lying>>750208123>How can you guarantee the steam client will work forever. >OFFLINEI know your anus is prolapsed from all the Switch jailbreak threads but come on. You dont need this.
>>750208174It isnt offline truly, it can still push updates. It happened awhile ago and people got kicked out of the client and had to relogin.Even if you disconnect your internet, you can never be really sure if it won't boot you out.
>>750208225Yea, thats like thinking if you lost your games during a move that means the company stole your games. What the fuck are oyu talkin about? I have lost more n64 games than I have with anything on steam, which is 0.
>>750208310>It isnt offline truly, it can still push updates>Even if you disconnect your PC from internet connectionwhat kind of retarded logic are you using here? You also going to tell me if I disconnect my pc from an outlet, it still isnt offline?
>>750208310>It isnt offline truly, it can still push updates. It happened awhile ago and people got kicked out of the client and had to relogin.No tendie, that's how your plastic toy works. Steam cant stop you from playing your installed games at all. An offline stram client literally cannot do anything, including check for updates
>>750208279So answer, how can you guarantee the steam client is offline, do you have the source code? How do you know how the API works?How can you guarantee that steam has no ability to prevent you from starting your games in the future without breaking the law. How do you have legal ownership of the files when there is DRM, you can't back the DRM free files cracked onto a disc without breaking the law. The steam backup feature only works with DRM.How can you guarantee you'll be able to play your games 30 years from now and own the games always offline?
>>750208196>>750208261I wonder how often this kind of thing happens outside of the public eye. Quite a few VNs had been in limbo for ages before release.
>>750208383>Retard too stupid to understand proprietary code can have a simple timer countdown and can log you out>Oops all your games goneIt has happened before btw, random logouts on steam offline mode. You don't know shit about what's in the steam code.Idk what's funnier me wasting your time explaining this or you thinking you actually own your games always offline forever lol.Both probably.
>>750208453>So answer, how can you guarantee the steam client is offline,Because I blocked it from going online. Permanently. I even showed you how to do it. You can see this for yourself on Task manager. Do you even have a pc, kid? Do you know what file folders are?>How can you guarantee you'll be able to play your games 30 years from now and own the games always offline?Same way I did for the past 30 years.
>>750199929They're a platform use your own discernment for which games have drm and good luck finding a more consumer friendly alternative
>>750208582>>Oops all your games gone>no wait the files are still there>and they still work
>>750208590So you have the steam source code, you know what's running? Also steam wasn't around 30 years ago nice larp retard and 85% of steam accounts have less than 7 years age since most were made in the last decade before valve even became mainstream in 2013.A 15 year account is a small statistical minority on steam let alone 20+.So you're a Valve kiddie shill with 6 year old account
>>750208849>launch game click .exe>Steamworks API error, steam not found please launch steamLMAO
>Steam has been operating for 22 years>but they are going to take my games away any day now
Stop wasting your time on these morons. GOG and portable versions. That's it, you own that. Everything else is bullshit. We'll be the ones laughing when steamtards won't have access to their "offline" games lmao.
>>750208982Steam in 2012 did not have 90% of their active users they have today. They were in the sub 2 million digits and that was only 14 years ago.The average age of the steam account in 2026 is 7 years LMAO.
>>750208582>You don't know shit about what's in the steam codePlease explain to me how code works. Id love to hear what kind of framework is being used to trigger an event automatically for an application that is no longer queued to receive that event. Perhaps there is some sort of delayed observable implanted to a system that is somehow forever stored and you somehow have access to this code that you call private.
>>750209017I dont think you will care enough about games if that ever happens. You also want to laugh about us not having access to toys sold back in 1985?
>>750209091I fail to see how that is relevant to the discussion.
>>750208938>If your Steam offline mode used to work and now you get the login screen or a connection error with no option to launch offline, the problem is probably the loginusers.vdf file. Open it in a text editor (by default it's at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\config\loginusers.vdf), find your account in the list, and change the RememberPassword, AllowAutoLogin, and WantsOfflineMode values to "1".Imagine being such a pathetic wretch you have to lie, and still fail
>>750208938>on cabin with no wifi access>launch steam on laptop>play gameswoa, i thought you knew what you were talking about
>>750209115I know it's proprietary and I know I can't guarantee my ability to own my games always offline forever.I know that fucking much. People still buy bluray TVs and movies even though they have light DRM, because guess fucking why?They have zero accounts, zero login, zero ability to remove your access and are always offline forever. They are always offline forever Funny steam could do the same, they could keep steamworks, if they would just let you play offline forever without the steam client where you just double click the .exe and the game just works even with steamworks.But they have decided not to. And that is why steam cannot be ownership,until they do.
>>750199929So just use GOG then? Retard
>>750209343Steam does not force DRM. Games can be 100% fully DRM free and have zero dependancy on steam, not even the basic Steamworks DRM that can be cracked with FOSS tools hosted on github.
>>750209343>all I know is that these things COULD happen which means it already happenedAnon, you realize in just a few decades super nintendos will still not exist! I should cry that I cant play any snes games anymore!Get a fucking grip anon, your game apocalypse theory is on the same level as the end of the world theories.
>>750209469Still not ownership with DRM, no matter how much steamies shill. It will never be ownership or always offline forever Until steam removes DRM or makes it always offline forever for steamwork it won't be ownership.
>>750209598https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_SteamGOG is better in a sense that it *forces* ALL games to be drm-free, but Steam simply lets the devs rope themselves if they want. You can upload a game on Steam and have it be completely drm-free, every file editable, copyable, and fully playable offline by launching the .exe without having steam open
>>750200264>I agreed to the terms but they don't apply to me because I say they don'tKill yourself nigger.
>>750209343I guess I dont own my car since that thing is about to breakdown in the next 30k miles.
>>750209191Comparing toys to games. Reflects your demeaning view on videogames as a whole. Very reminiscent of trend chasers and movie goers back in '90 - early '00s and how they viewed gamers. And now they flock to this industry because it's the latest trend. Normgroids. You out yourself, NPC.
>>750208865>you know what's running? That's.....what task manager does, yes. Do your have anything like that?>Also steam wasn't around 30 years agoYou were talking about offline games. >>750209343>if they would just let you play offline forever without the steam client where you just double click the .exe and the game just works even with steamworksWorks for me. Probably a skill issue. Most likely this is just a fud from a slaty consolefag
>>750199929This is such a pointless argument that has zero precedence. You can pretty much just say this for literally everything. But I will give you credit for at least trying with something different than the usual tired bait.
>>750199929Thats nice anon but I dont know why you felt the need to make a thread about your mental illnesses.
>>750209742>Reflects your demeaning view on videogames as a whole.Its a metaphor anon. Meaning what you cared about in the past wont matter much in the future. The games I owned on my n64 were all lost but I simply dont care about them. The movies I owned as a kid, I lost them but again I dont care about them.It seems like you have an obsession with just holding onto shit for your entire life and have a boner for the word "ownership". Unless I buy something today and someone take it away from me in less than a day, I really dont give a shit if I lose it after using it for 20+ years.
>>750209742i think you might have autism anon, which would actually make this whole argument make more sense
>>750206252imagine being such a raped slave where you care about having permission to play a game in a situation where THEY FUCKING TOOK IT AWAYat that point you basically have carte blanche to pirateno, this is a retarded way to thinkif you buy a game on steam you get much better service with way more functionalityon gog the shit you get is the same as piracy, if not worse, considering it's considered a second class store by many developers and publishers
>>750199929the steam client check is probably the most easily defeated DRM of all timewhat the fuck are you even shizoing about
>>750208310>>750208582Posts like these make a lot more sense when you realize this is how offline consoles work. After a month, the internal clock runs out and the console simply wont play your games-physicals included (curious how he left this bit out)-until you go online and it updates.Remember that consolenogs like this are the worst kind of subhuman. They know they live in absolute squalor, but would rather lie and decieve and drag others down to their level rather than pull themselves up. They deserve nothing but scorn
>shitch poo gets hacked>immediate flood of anti-steam postsI'm noticing.
>>750210674>After a month, the internal clock runs out and the console simply wont play your games-physicals included (curious how he left this bit out)-until you go online and it updates.There is no way this is true thats so fucking scummy wtf?
