What are the chances it flops?
the fact that it will be released in the first place means that they won and accomplished their goals, it was never about commerical success
>>750205618>"well, our development team got fired but at least we owned the chuds by releasing our game!"
What are the chances this ultraslop that is destined to flop will get cancelled before release?
>>750205494Didn't they can this design?
>>750205494considering how long they've spent trying to get that dog out of the door, all but certain.
>>750205494I think it'll sell well, it's Fable, one of the rare XBOX franchises that still have respect and people actually care about and want more of unlike the dead meme franchises of Halo and Gears of War they keep trying to force into relevance. It's also got a very appealing premise, big open world sandbox with almost total freedom where you can marry anyone, kill anyone, buy every property, and potentially have insane modding potential. Even if the trailers look woke, most people have been beaten into accepting wokeness and understanding there's no fighting it. Problem is the game is made by incompetent latte drinking privileged western devs, so it took like 15 years of thousands of them being paid 6 digit paychecks, and the game will no doubt be expensive and hard to run, so I certainly doubt it'll sell enough to ever make back the amounts they spent, and might just kill XBOX. Rip.
>>750205494Very high. Not due culture war reasons but simply because Fable was never THAT big and they have spent unreasonable ammount of money on it treating the game as another entry into TES or Witcher. It may have worked for something more serious, cool and edgy. But not a whimsical adventure that Fable is known for. 0 normalfaggot appeal.
I hate that they dropped the whimsical cartoonish art style for the generic realistic movieslop aesthetic.
>>750205702>suberting all your favorite franchises and heroes leaving zero hope even in escapism-focused mediasounds about right
>>750206209Trailer was SIX YEARS AGO.
>>75020549499.9999%
>>750205494At this point it's an absolute certainty.It's probably cheaper to shut the studio down and go for a tac write-off.
>>750205769Yep they did, although you can still create your own character
>>7502054945%It is the designated "play this game if you are a gamer" game like gta6
>>750205494Almost guaranteed, even with non woke crap this one was a tough sale. Absolutely deadflagged.
"Quirky fantasy game just like my D&D session" feels very played out at this point.
I estimate a 99.9% flop
>>750205930I really hope they let us modify it because it would finally give TES a good rival not that there aren't many good ones already but this one has feature wise more interested things to do like you mentioned before with marriage and investment or magic system
>>750205494Moderate. It's got a pretty low ceiling and a fairly low floor. It will not be a big hit, that is certain.
>>750205494>10 year dev timeThey're getting hit with layoffs in January for sure
>>750205769They did. Retards are just complaining about how the lack of thick butts and boobs now.
>>750205494Almost guaranteed. People finally seem to be getting tired of the constant sequels from old IPs that almost never catch the magic of the originals, and Fable is a series known for never living up to the lofty promises of the developers.
Lifetime Fable Sales is like 12milly.I think it will sell 4-5m based on brand loyalists + troons making an effort to show support after what happened to bioware.But it wont be enough.10 years dev time + prob a 500m+ budget, it's a flop regardless.
>>750206405MICROSOFT, THEY GET ME!
>>750205769no. it's still there. they just showcase other presets.
>>750205494Any AAA game released with a face attached to the director is pretty much guaranteed to fail.
>>750206405>>750210230https://voca.ro/1gFlg57B6ysjI've jerked it to that fairy...
>>750206754>>750206481How much as MS spent on dev so far? Is it another GoW E-Day situation where it's already $300m or more?
>>750205702Literally, yes.They hate the western man, they hate western culture and civilisation. They don't care about getting fired, they're getting paid to tear down the things we consumed that helped make us who we are and media that was a product of our civilisation. They're destroying culture and getting paid for it, they don't care if the money well drys up when they've ruined it.This was inevitable. Gaming was recognised as something that impacts culture and was infiltrated precisely for the goal of attacking us and who we are culturally.
It might, but what would end up killing them most likely is the dev trouble they had that made it take so long, alongside retooling their Forza engine to be able to form an rpg.
>>750205702>now im going to do the same thing to the next studio that hires me!They dont care about making games, they care about the message. Once stop being relevant they'll do the same thing to another industry. Why do you think every product is getting worse??
Why must non-Europeans always inject themselves into European folklore? Why aren't we allowed anything anymore?
>>750205494the trannies who made this shit got paid for it and then fired, whether it makes any money or not is Microsoft's problem.
>>750205494almost a certainty, the only good fable was the first one and after that it has been downhill for the series. it definitely doesn't help at all that the game is a woke mess.
>>750205618what?
>>750212285the audacity of you to think it's browns self-inserting when it's all white men, women and trannies forcing them in.
>>750205494Fable is already a niche series, and given it's political pandering and backpedaling, rather high.
>>750212285*sigh* How many times do we have to go over this? The one behind your rape is the Judeo-American empire.
>>750212629Judeo-Anglos*
>>750212285Should have thought of that before deliberately exporting European culture all over the globe.
day one buy. should be a nice pivot from gta
>>750212868Still seething after the Harry Potter thread? Let me put it simply for you. European people spreading and doing things = good. Non-European people spreading and doing things = bad.
>>750206665Cute. Would put 7 babies in her belly
>>750212285People hate being told this, but the fact is that humans in any sort of fiction are always seen as the audience self-insert vector. So if your thing has humans, it is inevitably going to have all kinds of them.
>>750212285>Why must non-Europeans always inject themselves into European folkloreColonization
>>750212970No clue what you are talking about, go get some mental help if you think you can genuinely recognize people across threads on top of misidentifying.
>>750213031You know full well that logic only applies to European stories, and not for say, a story in Aztec America or Ethiopia.
>>750205494i hope it flops because i know people who work there and they are cunts.
>>750213145Cool hypothetical, but such games would have to exist first.
Why would it flop?
>>750205494what are the chances that no matter what releases /v/ will be upset?
>>750205494>the cockney fart humor is gonegood>millenial humor and literal The Office interview cutaways are init's so overhttps://youtu.be/vjQNvjTF56o?t=374an art style chasing realism was also a bad choiceI'll still pirate it just to have a dozen wives spread out across every town, but I have extreme doubts about the game's successstill, I was okay with fable 3 when everyone else hated it so it'll be hard for them to do worse than that
>>750213280nice photoshop buddy
>>750213505>photoshopI'm not spending 5 hours drawing bigger tits when I can ask a slop agent to make them for me in 3 seconds.
>>750213485>a dozen wivesIs polygamy confirmed to be in?
>>750205494i thought this already came out and did flopi cant keep track of these flops anymore man
>>750212209>Why do you think every product is getting worse??Private equity buying the producers out and then immediately enacting the legendary business strategy of prioritizing short term profits to everyone's detriment except the shareholders
>>750213560yikes, next time please commission an artist, be a good fucking human being ;)
>>750213636I'm gonna be 30 by the time I find one and they finish it.
>>750213570Every single fable entry so far has had it, it's just that if your wives find out about each other it can lead to a divorce, that's why you keep them in separate towns. Don't know why they wouldn't just keep it that way, doing stupid shit like that is 99% of what fable is.
How fast will this have mods on pc?
>>750213445Why would we be upset?
>>750213445this is a nice bonus. Great games come out all the time and I get to supplement the blast I'm having with them by watching dumb kids have constant meltdowns. I hate society for mind raping zoomers, but goddamn if it isn't amusing
>>750213445>the chances that no matter what releases /v/ will be upset?100%
>>750213445102% with a 2% margin of error
Don't think it's gonna be a runaway smash hit best seller but it'll probably at least break even.Doubt we'll get quests like the Bordello but who knows.
>>750213709How fast will Nexus mods have them removed?
>>750205494100%.
>>750205930>I think it'll sell well, it's FableYou niggers said this about Dragon Age too and look what happened.
>>750213445>if game game is actually good I'm happy>if it's trash and flops I'm happy What's there to be angry about?
>>750214235>Bordello>in nuFableIf there is, it will look like the retarded sex club in Starfield
It will have decently high numbers but will flop nonetheless. It's in works for years .
>>750205494Probably, but I have like 12 free months of gamepass, so I will try it.
>>750213145Expedition games.
>>750205702Hit the nail on the head, chief.The company and it's IPs can rot for all these people care. They'll just pack their things and move to the next company that will hire them just for being "diverse."They are a plague. And they'll kill your favorite games, too, someday.
>>750215953it would just be a 50/50 split of men to women. That makes sense in fable world. The man whores in fable 2 were hilarious. I had one in an orgy who was called (my name) the Whore and my friends still tease me about it
>>750205618Kind of agree. A real company would have course corrected by now. Instead they just stubbornly push through and make back what they can in the hopes an Odyssey miracle occurs.
>>750216804Games take way too long to create to course correct mid dev let alone 3/4 of the way there.
>>750205618>it was never about commerical successMoney is all that matters. They make pozzed shit because they thought that that was what everybody wanted. Look at Fable. They literally replaced that hideous mutt in the op with a white girl and added character customization due to the backlash.All they care about is money. It isn't any deeper than that.
>>750217987>Money is all that mattersby this logic we wouldn't see 10 years of games flopping left and right in a very predictable and totally avoidable mannerblackrock and company has the infinite money glitch unlocked, they don't give a fuck if a studio goes down or whateverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQit's literally the>here's $10 trillions to make your product gay and lamememe
>>750217987this guy thinks the mutt chatacter was planned to be the single protagonist lol
>>750205494it'll probably make its money backbut it won't have any lasting impact
>>750205494>>750205618>>750205769>>750205930Nah chud video games are flopping now because they are sexist af and refuse to appeal to the homo erotic gazehttps://youtu.be/STuffFl6-jc
>>750205494They've added a customizable MC now so you don't have to play as goblina, and they've started using attractive females in their marketing.They can see that their situation is dire, but depending on how bad the wokeness remaining in the game is the chances are still high that it flops.
>>750205494after that last gameplay/combat preview very likely
>>750221970>>750221970more fat characters = more sales. maybe stop alienating half of your population and depicting them as objects for your pleasure chuds
>>750221371Theyre already waaaay over budget with it
>>750222416are they really?damn, well i guess they really are gonna flop
>>75020549480%
>>750222353Nobody likes fat people except degenerate fetishists. Normalfags want to look at attractive people and not fat lumps like you'd see on scooters in a Walmart.
>>750205702Yes, actually. They’ll mewl and wine on twitter for about a month about being jobless before they get hired through nepotism into another company that they’ll have a hand in dragging into a mediocre grave. It’s not about making a good product or securing stable income. It was never about that. Their blind hatred compels them to ruin things they know the other side likes because they fundamentally cannot stand the idea of another side existing and enjoying things, even when said things were actively keeping that other side from pestering them until said things were fucked with.
>>750222583>>750221970if you actually watch this video its literally some faggot angry that some games have traditionally appealing women still and dont include his homosexual niche fetishes in them. 65k likes. and most of the comments are people unironically acting like the industry is still in 2006. this is the design that got this faggot mad enought to make this video btw
I have gamepass so I'll try it because the dev is competent and I liked the first Fable
>>750222693I can already tell the guy is just a retard>why don't games sexualize men??Because most gamers are straight normal guys who don't like homosexual stuff, simple as that. A male/male romance for main characters would be bigger poison to a game selling than a black woman on the cover.
>>750222693The thing that always irritates me about this rhetoric is that men ARE sexualized frequently. This statement is always exclusively made by people who for some reason don't think Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans constantly being shirtless and looking like beefcakes isn't sexualization, or that Leon Kennedy isn't already sexualized, or that games aren't filled with hot guys meant to appeal to women. The things that appeal to women about men are the not the same that appeal to men about women, so seeing a dude run around in a skimpy bikini with a tramp stamp isn't the equivalent. That only really appeals to homosexual men (or women that went to see a man humiliated because of misandry, not even because of a femdom fetish). The typical equivalent would be a dude in tight pants and no shirt/really tight shirt, which is very common. The complaint is completely disjointed from reality and what people actually want, and it's from people that don't understand that the two sexes have different tastes (and even varied tastes among each sex).The crux of why that is is because being sexually appealing is a power fantasy for both men and women. So typically a male character that a man finds cool will often be attractive to a woman. Playing through Sands of Time and seeing the hot athletic muscular prince dude get torn up and weathered and lose his shirt but fight tooth and nail is COOL for guys and HOT for women. This goes both ways, too, because for most women being sexually attractive is a power fantasy and they will tend to prefer playing attractive women (and you can see this by observing the types of characters most women make in games with character creators). You will get outliers from both men and women that enjoy playing unsexualized, goofy, or unattractive characters (though typically I find men enjoy doing that more often than women), but as a general rule a sexually attractive character is a cool character, and vice-versa.
>>750224139>>750222693
>>750224383>Why aren't games sexualizing men???>Okay yes they are sexualizing men, but not as much as women>Okay yes the vast majority of male characters are sexualized and conventionally attractive and there is no efforts to curb that while there are for women, but it's still not the same>Okay yes it is socially acceptable to have a man be completely naked in a blockbuster family movie and not a woman, but it's not the same>No, I'm not personally attracted to men and I am not a woman so I don't know when they are being sexualized to appeal to women, why does that matter?This is just like when people were trying to claim that Bayonetta was sexist despite being designed by a woman and appealing to a lot of women It's just Sarkeesian-like rhetoric without any understanding of the actual media they're critiquing or the audience it is marketed towards.
>>750205494100%
>>750224746
this thread has taught me that the first teaser gave people the impression that the "goblina" was the sole protag, exactly as she is. wow, /v/ really doesn't play the games they discuss
was fable ever even that big of a namelike it's decently well known but I don't remember it ever being some kind of smash hit IP
>>7502261801 had a lot of hype because the dev lied about what features would be in the game. It was still fun though.
>>750224746>without any understanding They understand it perfectly, they know exactly what they’re doing and have debated all of the points they bring up hundreds of times. They know it’s bullshit, they know that they are the only ones objectifying characters, and they don’t care. They have a goal to only have a certain type of female character exist in media and they will do anything to make that happen. Lying is nothing to them since they either believe everything is subjective or a means to an end. Nothing is off limits when trying to achieve their goals. The sooner you get this the better you will be able to deal with them. Never assume ignorance, never assume that someone arguing a specific point is just a regular person. Regular people don’t give a flying fuck about culture war shit. They just consume and that’s what culture warriors that push this shit rely on, they want to get people used to ideas and concepts. That is the entire purpose of the propaganda in the first place. And their biggest fear is being outed, which has been steadily happening over the course of the past decade and every year more gets uncovered.
>>750226262I'm so glad I wasn't aware of gaming news back then and fable just appeared in my hands one day. top ten game for sure
>>750225993They delayed the game once already to add in character customization. >/v/ really doesn't play the gamesCan’t really play a game that isn’t out yet. You just wanted to say this old cope to defend this trash didn’t you? Scared shitjeet?
>>750226482oh yeah lol. i suppose you can point me towards where a dev stated they added customization as a last minute feature because you brave culture warriors foiled their plan to make you play as an ugly woman?
>>750205494non-zero
>>750214235>break even>7 year development cycle>rumored $200-$250 million dollar budget but probably higher than that because of said development cycleYeah I just don't think so.
depends on how deep they go with the social mechanics. If they go all out with the family building/home owning/rpg aspects, it could be a huge hit.If it's Starfield-tier vanilla bullshit it's going to flop spectacularly and xbox is going to be doomed.
>>750226978>oh yeah lol. i suppose you can point me towards where a dev stated Dishonest attempt to trap someone in by not accepting any evidence that is not an explicit statement of something and ignore everything such as the fact that no variation in character design was shown in the trailer and only after the delay and two years after said trailer did they show any variation in PC. >feature because you brave culture warriors Accusing people of being like you is a losing battle, especially given the only reason you’re defending this shit is because of the idpol shit that is in it. >their plan to make you play as an ugly womanWhich is not out of the norm at all since Microsoft told the art director of Fable 3 not to put a black woman on the cover. My advice is to not start this, you are not going to be able to argue and it will just devolve into you pretending not to understand shit and acting like an obnoxious retard for however long the thread is up to cope with being wrong.
>>750227538Boy, that sure was a lot of words to say "I made it up".
>>750227641Pretending not to understand just like I said you would.
>>750215646Doesn’t matter since other sites host mods.
>>750227875Not understand what? You presented your theory that devs were bullied into tacking on character customization at the last minute because of backlash as if it was fact. You really think they overlooked such a no brainer feature for this game either through sheer incompetence or better yet, to punish you with an ugly character? That's a fine theory I guess.The fact that you then immediately went into default "4chan deflect" mode leads me to think you don't even believe this enough to argue it in good faith, because you can't
>>750226262Peter Molyneux was a bullshitter but he did make good games. He designed a lot of great stuff
>>750228151>Not understand whatWhat I typed out that you ignored.>You presented your theory A theory that is backed up by something I made reference to in the post that you didn’t even try to address and just pretended wasn’t there? >that devs were bullied into tacking on character customization at the last minute because of backlash as if it was factI gave an example of this happening prior at Microsoft. Not to mention why the fuck would anyone go out of their way to face scan an actress when their is going to be a customizable character? And why would they delay the game (it’s still being worked on btw) only to show custom characters years later after nothing from any other trailer. >The fact that you then immediately went into default "4chan deflect" modeI never went off topic, you tried saying I made it up and I pointed out how I said you would pretend not to understand what I said. And you’re only continuing to do that while I show exactly how you’re doing in by ignoring all of the shit that was mentioned. You should have taken my advice. >leads me to think you don't even believe this enough to argue it in good faith, because you can'tTu quoque, you ignored what I pointed out in order to say I was making shit up.
>>750228475I also like the part where after typing all that you said it was infact me who is the idpol warrior because.... reasons? btw if you disagree with anything I say it's because you're pretending not to understand :^)
>>750205618Indeed. Whether it’s a success or a failure, they’ll simply move on to another IP. Some don’t seem to realize that it’s not as if those doing this are fans or have any respect for Fable, Gears of War, Baldur’s Gate, Homeworld, Saints row, and so. It's purely about denigration:>Is the game a success? Nice! double down and make another one >Is the game a failure? Oh no... what other IP can we ruin now?
>They already won, chud! Please be blackpilled and demoralized!Not sending their best.
>>750228705>no counter or acknowledgement Once again ignoring and pretending not to understand shit. How does it feel to get btfo yet again? >I also like the part where after typing all that you said it was infact me who is the idpol warrior because.... reasonsReasons which were stated that you have to ignore because if you were to engage you would embarrass yourself further. >btw if you disagree with anything I say it's because you're pretending not to understand :^)Oh man, pretending that you were trolling all along after you get btfo, like I’ve never seen that before.
>>750225413Me liking the sorceress in dragons crown doesn’t mean I won’t shovel snow off the driveway of the old woman that lives next to me during winter.
>>750228906The field is narrowing, though. Studios are closing. There's less places to run to, and the existing SJW cocksuckers there aren't giving up their spots for people fleeing wrecks elsewhere.
>>750229081>Oh man, pretending that you were trolling all along after you get btfo, like I’ve never seen that before.I'm just playing your game with the rules you established. Care to elaborate on your theory that fable was planned to have you play as one static female, or are you just going to farm a trickle of empty (you)s out of me and call it a productive day.>Scared shitjeetremember when you said that right before trying to "no u" me after I called you a brave culture warrior? hey... I'm starting to think you may not have been honest since the start of this conversation!
>>750205494I didn't play these games when they came out but they always gave me a double a fantasy game impression.
>>750229619what?
I dunno why people are hating on this game so much. It doesnt look that bad. Its nowhere near as bad looking as shit like Dragon Age Veilguard or whatever. It just looks like it will be an alright 7/10 game.
>>750229339>I'm just playing your game with the rules you establishedNo you’re acting like a spiteful manchild because you were proven wrong in an internet argument and your ego won’t let you stop. >Care to elaborate on your theory that fable was planned to have you play as one static femaleI did that already and you ignored it. And you know that already since you replied to the post where I elaborated. This is just going to turn into you feigning ignorance about something that you already know exists to avoid having to address it. >remember when you said that right before trying to "no u" me after I called you a brave culture warriorNeither of those things are mutually exclusive, and you are literally defending culture war shit and know it. Also good job showing that you do remember shit from previous posts thus showing you are purposely ignoring what I said. >hey... I'm starting to think you may not have been honestNo, you need to try and call my veracity into question because you’re incapable of actually arguing what I said. As it is you’re basically just relying on ad hominem to get by while ignoring the subject matter.
>>750229750Yea as a huge Fable 1 and 2 fan this game doesn't look terrible. There are some worrisome elements but it ultimately looks OKThat said given how long it has been in development I most definitely see it "flopping". Not that I care. I'm not a shareholder
>>750229750I've got two words for you, newnigger. Tor. Tanic.
>>750229750It looks like shit and is going to be filled with retards and the most dogshit writing imaginable.
>>750205494The chances are 100%. Unfortunately the studio also makes Horizon, another pozzed game with pronouns in it that normie retards ate up in droves. This studio will survive to do more damage again in the future.Gamers are so pathetic to live without a backbone.
>>750229698The art direction looked old when the original games released. Like how WOW simplified its art direction for weaker pc's at the time.
>>750230074Fable has never been known for its good writing my nigga.
>>750230227Do you think humor doesn’t count as writing? Or how various events unfold and how characters are introduced? Having something be ironically detached isn’t good.
>>750229797Well, since all you've had since your first post is a long winded variant of "no u" and since you're so sure that you "won" (even though you can't point to where that happened), and I've got shit to do so we'll have to call this one a draw. We can exchange concessions at your leisure.
>>750205494Fable will flop and take Forza Horizon 6 down with them. 2027 will be absolute hell for Playground.
>>750229750>I dunno why people are hating on this game so much>It just looks like it will be an alright 7/10 game."Predicting" that a 7/10 game will be a 7/10 gives them euphoric bliss and makes them feel like Quasimodo
>>750230371I found Fable 1 to have some decent humor but I see no reason to believe the new one will be any different. Outside of the bordello or some other random shit I may be forgetting, the games weren't really that edgy/chuddy or anything like that. Pretty standard bri'ish "people" comedy, and what they've shown of the new game looks relatively similar in tone
>>750230406>Well, since all you've had since your first post is a long winded variant of "no u" You’ve run out of anything else to say and are just doubling down on crying out shit you’re doing and projecting it onto me while you continue to ignore how you’re wrong about there being no character customization. And this is partly backed up by the fact that you just had to post a Metalocalypse image after I posted Pickles>since you're so sure that you "won" (even though you can't point to where that happened)I did and you ignored it.>and I've got shit to do You don’t, you’re running away because you realized you fucked up but have to try and make it seem like you didn’t embarrass yourself. Basically you’re acting smug while running away with your tail between your legs. >We can exchange concessions at your leisure.You’re the only one conceding and since you’re so readily trying to call this a draw it’s clear you’re desperate to make it look like you didn’t get btfo.
>>750205702>but at least we owned the chudsBut at least we released another anti-White jewish propaganda and we already got paid for it so it doesn't even matter anymoreYes
>>750205494All I can remember is that they showed gameplay that looked like journalist difficulty but then they said it was one of the hardest modes.The boss was ultra telegraphed and the adds did nothing.Doesn't even matter to me anymore how shit the companions/NPC/maincharacters are after that.
>>750230621>I found Fable 1 to have some decent humor but I see no reason to believe the new one will be any differentAside from the fact it’s been over 20 years and the general quality of writing in media has declined drastically and what has already been shown is the most cringeworthy shit imaginable. >the games weren't really that edgy/chuddy or anything like that.No normal person uses “chuddy” as an adjective. And if you actually played Fable you would know that one of characters is a huge racist that gets horny from watching you fuck up one of the two black characters in the game. Also you can go around slaughtering entire villages and sacrifice your wife to an evil cult. The game was plenty edgy.
>>750213636Lol fuck artists, why pay for something I can get for free? They're lucky that they get to go find a real job now.
>>750230863I don't really care to generalize I just prefer to assess reality as it is and observe trends. Like I said, I would never say Fable 1 or 2 were games I enjoyed for the writing. Tone maybe, the world, but not necessarily the "writing>Also you can go around slaughtering entire villages and sacrifice your wife to an evil cultI don't really see this as being edgy, I saw it more as the game allowing you to be hyperbolic levels of either good or evil. Y'know, hence the halo or flies and horns. I'd call Manhunt or Hatred edgy. Fable is just satire.
>>750205702>got fired Yes. After like what? a decade of excreting propaganda every couple of years?
>>750205769Yeah. The more recent thing is using Hayley Atwell but cutting off her tits.
>>750205618Ruining IPs in games, movies and series is a non-sustainable business model. How many humans are trans, black and gays? 90% of the human population?EVERY game/movie/series always are promoting social justice and lifting up minority groups and turned everything into a quota. if Snape is not white then his character doesnt make sense anymore. How many black people have UK?if Gears of War have girlbosses then GoW doesnt make sense anymore. How many women likes violence and guns?
>>750213689I love the little details in original Trilogy. The wives, the Demon doors, dancing skeletons, the room of gold coins.
