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I finally tried it out since it's on pc now
Is this it? Is this the game people were fellating endlessly for over a decade?
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>>750219430
>I finally tried it
this is your problem
it was cool only at launch when it was new and relevant (just like any other game/movie/product), nobody was waiting for you to try it 10 years later to give your useless uninformed opinion about it, you had to be there at launch
meanwhile literally everyone moved on to play other new games while you are still stuck in 2016 (mentally and culturally wise)
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>>750219430
it's pretty overrated true but it's pretty good
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>>750219430
You are not cool by being contrarian. It's just cringe and sad.
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You didn't actually experience Bloodborne.
You played outside of the system it released on and went against Miyazaki's vision of the game by playing it on PC.
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>>750219430
The opening is amazing. The first few levels are amazing. The atmosphere is amazing. The enemy design is amazing. Protagonist is awesome. Gore. Good combat. Great sound design. I could continue but then I remember OP is a faggot.
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Bloodborne is only enjoyable if you enter it with 0 expectation AND with no prior knowledge of the midgame cosmic twist.
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wtf are you supposed to do against the frenzy googly eyes guy that just insta rapes you
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>>750220197
Kill it before the frenzy meter procs twice, BAAAAKA
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>>750219430
you dont understand kino
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>>750219430
bloodborne was a fast-paced souls game for it's time and i still think it has the best combat pacing. elden ring is ten times harder sure, but that game felt annoying to finish whereas bloodborne is a treat. the grimdark victorian werewolf hunter stylings combined with cosmic horror was an inspired choice. cant get enough of pic rel
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>>750220197
Parry their attacks and riposte just as frenzy is about to proc as you're invulnerable while locked in the riposting animation
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>>750220197
they only frenzy you if you face them. dont target lock them
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>>750219430
I mean, it's Dark Souls with a bit more attack options. What did you expect? >>750219903
This. Games are only good on the day of release, because their only value is as a shared social experience. Being a gimped-out consumer slave is actually good btw
>>750220143
The opening section of BB is really good but the quality & consistency really drops off hard as it goes
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>>750219430
It's patient zero for everything wrong with fromsoft today
>input reading
>delayed attacks
>spastic bosses
>copy pasted bosses
But it gets a pass because snoys and yt essayists have gaslighted everyone into worshiping this game
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People shitting on this game 10 years after release are trying so hard to be contrarian. Its a good game. If you don't like it but suck off DaS3 then your just being a nigger

Simple as.
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>>750220650
brownoid
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>>750220618
>Games are only good on the day of release
it's irrelevant if they are good or not, if people are hyped up then it doesn't matter
>because their only value is as a shared social experience.
I know you are trolling but for non-autistic well adjusted individuals it's literally this, if gaming died tomorrow they wouldn't even notice, just another way to kill some time (yes, golems straight up waste their single life on earth on random things they don't even really care about because the advertisement or an eceleb said so)
>Being a gimped-out consumer slave is actually good btw
in a modern consumer-based economy/society I would say yes, that's kinda expected from you, and fitting in is good btw (unless you are a permavirgin autist who's too smart to play the social games with others)
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>>750220970
low IQ post
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>>750221031
>zero argument or addressing the points or elaborating in any capacity
well stay mad and virgin then, retard
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>>750219430
Yes
And I played it in 2015
It's literally worse than all the souls games
Saved by DUDE HP LOVECRAFT and ps4 exclusivity (only game)
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>>750219430
It's the best game ever made
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The Witcher 3 and RDR2 are way more overrated. By a huge margin too. Thanks for asking and looking.
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>>750219430
first half is boring. most bosses until amelia are pushovers. and even amelia is more of a dps race since youre are supposed to do some chalice before her. pick up after her game go weird, level design improves. you can get a little taste of that if you kill bsb early and the snatcher you leave you in hypogean early. second half is better than the four prior games. first half is slightly worse than DS2. and i meant that as a good thing. DS2 as a game is much better than DS1 and DES.
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>>750221310
If you are a SEAnig brownoid
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>>750219903
I love this game its my fav game, i played it 5 years ago first time
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>>750220650
trvke
although
>copy pasted bosses
that already existed in dark souls
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>>750221441
don't reply to me
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>>750221575
I do what I want, brownie
What ramjet gonna do?
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>>750220650
copy pasted bosses that where better than every other DES, DS1 and DS2 bosses. i feel only maybe Artorias, Katana, Manus, O&S and Allant where on par with the worst mob from the game. Bloodborne show a lot of improvements on enemy behavior. also some of them change if you have high insight.
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>>750219903
So you admit it was just fotm trash and not actually able to stand up on its own?
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>>750221762
Delusional
The bosses are terribly designed because of the dumb gun stun
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>>750219430
Its 2015 year game, so it's pretty dated as of now. The only bosses that pose any challenge are Maria and Orphan from DLC.
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>>750221628
Bro, he told you not to reply ot him
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>>750222016
You can't contain me
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>>750221963
Maria is a pushover. Laurence and ludwig are harder than orphan.
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>>750219430
No way, it would have to get through RockSlop and Bethesda's shit first.
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>>750220650
I dont mind spastic bosses because your movment is also much better than in other souls games, also i never had problem with delaying attacks in this game
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>>750219430
>Overrated
Find me a game that does Lovecraft aesthetics better than Bloodborne. You cannot
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>>750219903
It had awful loading screens on release and the DLC is half the reason the game was so popular, so no, you're brown. Very brown.
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>>750222201
Demon's Souls
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i somehow jumped behind some wagon on the bridge with the two wolfes and cant get out aaaahhh help
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>>750222291
>the literal 1 minute loading screens
lmao I forgot about that
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>>750222348
Bold hunter's mark, RIGHT NOW!!!
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>>750221858
>base game only allowed 5 bosses to be parried
you meant R2 spam. that one was true after i learned R2 was safe i used on everything.
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>>750222291
Yeah, the base game is the shortest soulsborne game and feels unfinished. With the old hunters it becomes one of the best games ever made.
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>>750222386
Loading Greatness takes time
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>>750222201
You have never read anything from Lovecraft
Your idea of "lovecraftian aesthetics" stems from this game, or rather the youtube videos you've watched about it
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>>750222484
Wrong it's a bottom tier fromsoft game
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>>750222201
lovecraft is a racist pos anyway
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>>750219903
>>750219430
brown thread, dilate
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>>750221415
The only really great bosses in the OG game story are Gascoigne, Gehrman and Logarius. Maybe Amelia too. But the DLC brings Ludwig, Maria and Orphan, who are fantastic. Laurance / CB is good too. Besides that I like Pthumerian elder / descendant, and abhorrent beast is good if you're good enough to fight him. Maybe bloodletting beast. Darkbeast is technically good with detailed mechanics and strategy against him, but it's annoying to fight

The rest of them I wouldnt fight again unless I had to.
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>>750222563
He wasn't actually racist chuds just claim literally every white guy in the past was
Like tolkien, when tolkien was active against racism.
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>>750222563
>racist
One of his few redeeming qualities
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>>750222538
This
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>>750222484
Bloodborne without the Old Hunters doen't exist. That DLC has ingrained itself within the very indentity of the game to the point where it's not even a DLC anymore. NO ONE plays Bloodborne without the Old Hunters.
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>>750222880
>>750222538
How does Bloodborne's aesthetic diverge from Lovecraft's?

t. haven't read any of Lovecraft's works, but plan to in the future
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>>750222614
i do agree that Shadows was the best second half boss. Gehrman is kinda overrated since he has broken pathfinding he fought like a DES boss and was funny was fuck. i do agree that every DLC boss was better worst one being living failures. but i find weird how people disliked the game that made riposte universal, bosses arent boring doing a move at time like they did in the trilogy and also make you sweat. im the guy that im not ashamed to admit that i spent hours fight a early boss like BSB but people keep bitching. like what you want
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>>750222556
... so one of the best games ever made, then. That's what I said.
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>>750222890
And the DLC takes about 2 hours
Can't believe people called this the 'A-team' and DS2 the 'B-team' when DS2 destroyed this game in every way
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>>750223083
BSB is actually really scary, like if you get hit once or twice in his 2nd phase you are running for your life trying to take an antidote at that early stage in the game
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>>750223152
Not even. How many times have you replayed it. When's the last time, a decade ago?
It's reddit the game. A HUNTER IS A HUNTER EVEN IN A DREAM OMGGG.
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>>750223167
It definitely does not take just two hours the first time through.
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>>750223241
When you remove all the repeated dying to bosses it's actually less than 2.
The entire game plus DLC has barely any content.
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>>750223341
Ah I see, so YOU'RE the shitter they made elden ring for.
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>>750223167
BB is a game that's meant to be replayed over and over again with multiple builds and challenge runs, so a 3 hour DLC really makes a difference (and let's not for get the immense lore contributions)
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>>750223227
Nta but I found it to be really easy, didn't even bothered to use antidotes just heal when needed, took me two tries to kill
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>>750223405
Of course you hate the best game they've ever made and prefer the game with 6 weapons
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>>750223227
i was a bitch them. but since i made him my bitch. now i beat him playing really poorly. like allowing him to hit me. but like everything in this game hes glitchy as fuck. i feel that only thing that still scares in this game is the brainsucker. they brought back mind flyer attack also made them faster. fuck them, really FUCK THEM
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>>750220197
equip frenzy res gear, equip 200 frenzy and 100 all res runes = parry them or unga bunga them depending on the weapon you're using, sedatives are also nice to have
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When the fuck are you meant to do the dlc? These enemies take no damage and hit like a truck. Was i expected to grind gems in the chalice dungeons before coming here?
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>>750223723
Right before you fight Gherman
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>>750222430
i somehow jiggled my way out of there and now i got stuck somewhere else
wtf is wrong with this game
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The main game is like a 7
The dlc is a solid 9 after the starting area
It's good, but not god's gift to games and it has a shitton of major flaws
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>>750223723
From's DLCs are always intended as endgame areas, you can at best run around to get some good items early on
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>>750223723
I think I did it before the nightmare frontier, mikolash and mergo hit like wet noodles and that way you can still get a couple lines of dialogue from gherman and the doll.
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>>750223828
"Places better left untouched, secrets better left alone, only a fool would so brazenly roam..."

Miyazaki's ludonarrative in full display, I kneel
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>>750223974
Ds1 and some of ds2s dlcs are peferctly reasonable to do as soon as you uave access to them.
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>>750223723
you can do them early since they give you a lot of great gems. everything will kill you with one hit but isnt that unfair
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>>750224079
Well, ds1 is literally the endgame part of the game, all the lordvessel areas are equal in difficulty so doing the archives first is a non issue
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>>750223924
I think it depends on what kind of gamer you are. If you are a lorefag who cares way too much about aesthetics and atmosphere, then it may as well be God's gift to games.

Otherwise, it's just another soulslike.
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>>750224216
My main issue is weapon distribution and builds, really. Fuck it sucks in that regard
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Yeah it's straight up trash and doesn't respect the player's time at all cos there are no bonfires lol.
Horrible gamedesign.
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>>750219430
I wanted to say no, but then I remembered that counter damage exists, so yeah
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>>750223723
Enter the DLC and fight the first old hunter there. If he's hard to kill, you aren't ready yet.
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>>750224327
Yeah
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>>750224342
>there are no bonfires
It's so fucking annoying having to go back to hunter's dream to get a blood vial refill
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Ok so i just want to make sure i understand how the chalice dungeons work
>theres the main questline with preset dungeons
>you can use the root chalices to mix ingredients together and make random wacky dungeons
>with online enabled you can search for specific dungeons (or use the offline mod)
Is that about it?
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>>750224434
Yeah, and most of them SUCK
It's telling the most popular one exists purely to buy bullets and vials.
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>>750224378
I overcame the old hunters by getting good but its shit like the massive fuck off gravity ax guy that make me think im not ready for this. Asshole doesnt even get staggered by the kirkhammers heavy attack. I legit spent like 20 minutes just jump attack him to death by abusing his ai home range
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>>750224574
>massive fuck off gravity ax guy
Loke his aggro and R2 spam him
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>>750224574
>the massive fuck off gravity ax guy
These fuckers are incredibly weak to parries and backstabs.
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>>750224638
Lose*
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>>750223551
I dont know why people say he's (she's?) so easy to dodge, like you never get hit. It's a meme. His fast scratching combo tracks well and lunges towards you with long reach that covers his sides; you cant just walk left around it. In later stages he jumps at you very fast. He is super fast and always jumping away from counter attacks. Just being nearby him poisons you. He has a ton of health at that point and your armor is shit against poison. Has a insta kill grab (for your HP at that point).
I dont have trouble with gascoigne, cleric beast, amelia or any of those other early fights
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>>750224742
Is there even a boss in base bloodborne that can be considered hard?
I guess paarl if you fight him early?
Bloody raven of cainhurst would be the hardest fight in the game if you don't flat out cheese it I guess, deletes you in two shots
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>>750222538
I have read Lovecraft, and this is the only original game that captures Lovecraft's cosmic and creepy horror essence greatly. Again you havent answered my question, so I assume you dont have any better Lovecraftian alternative in vidya
>>750222995
It doesnt. It has the same horror aesthetics with Lovecraft stories. In fact, Bloodborne's lore could easily pass as a Lovecraft story.
These niggers are just being contrarians or retardedly expect 1:1 shit from Lovecraft in Bloodborne
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>>750222016
By the way, the woman who posted this later married the "creep".
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>>750225693
prompt?
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people say the combat is the best but honestly it just feels sloppy, you hit an enemy and it either gets hitstunned, or it doesn't and just attacks trough your attack. There's no "hand off" where you're performing a combo then the enemy interrupts it with a little parry animation or starts blocking before countering, its just snapping from hitstun to super armor making it incredibly reactive and random. And before you call it a skill issue I first tried most of the bosses including ludwig and maria (not sure how honestly). This results in an effective gameplan being getting in one or two attacks playing hit and run or baiting parries. Typically on humanoids I'll do a few hits then finish the combo with a gun attack since I KNOW that'll hitstun the enemy and maybe even get a parry, since it has a predictable effect I feel comfortable using it
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>>750222171
NG+ laurence molested me. i downed ludwig in 2 tries and the bloody crow in 1, orphan in under 5 but I slammed my head against laurence for a week. hardest boss i ever fought until i played elden ring
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>>750224924
defiled amygdala
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>>750224924
abhorrent beast
darkbeast paarl
ludwig
laurence
orphan
pthumerian descendant
chalice rom
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>>750226657
>ludwig
>laurence
>orphan
read, retard
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>>750219430
No. "The Last of Us" and its sequal are.
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>>750225893
>prompt
@Grokgenerate Niggerman's owner loosing himself in his own racist cosmic horror sauce while walking down the stairs
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>>750224742
BSB is too passive and shes has like 3 attacks. felt like a DS1/2 boss that does one attack per turn.
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>>750219430
No. That would be E33.
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>>750219903
The new cope is this.Nevermind the fact that you snoys kept making threads about it how it's still the best game ever even years later
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>>750224742
dont know man, i clowned on BSB the first time i fought him and it was actually the fight that gave me confidence to think that yeah, i can beat whole game - my souls-veteran buddy had warned me about BSB being a skill check and i giggleshitted all over him as a souls virgin on my first playthrough
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>>750219430
>10+ years of nonstop discussion
probably not
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>>750219903
based
>>750221845
it was a relevant game at the time when we were wanting more dark souls. that franchise has now been run into the ground and played to death because of all the subsequent games. you should've played it back then. you should've played dark souls, bloodborne and then realized it was time to drop fromsoft games after dark souls 3. instead you continued to play their games to death and are now unimpressed with a game that did everything before you got watered down versions in all the sequels.
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>>750219430
As someone who mainly plays these games for level and encounter design, the game loses most of its luster after leaving Central Yharnam.
The entirety of CY is probably the best city From Software has ever made. Unlike most of the cities From has made (such as Anor Londo or Irithyll), going through CY really does feel like you're exploring an entire city instead of exploring an attraction theme park that only resembles a city (the way it is with Irithyll).
Once you leave CY, it's a mixed bag.
For example, as soon as you leave CY, you enter Forbidden Woods. That's when the level design starts to get stale. That's also when you start getting a lot of reused/recycled enemies from earlier or other areas. You get fewer and fewer exclusive enemies. Nightmare Frontier for example only has the pool worms/slugs being exclusive to that area (its area boss isn't even unique since you can fight Amy in the dungeons).
Byrgenwerth is probably the most disappointing area in the game. And we know that it was supposed to be way bigger thanks to datamining that shows it was supposed to be bigger. I could go on.
The DLC is just a glorified linear boss rush (with lots of recycled enemies from the base game).

But GODDAMN that first 35-40 percent of the base game in CY is magical. Better than anything From has designed before or since.
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>>750219903
Wow this is basically a truth nuke, but only on normies. This is exactly how my one and only fren is... he's based, but also a goy in some regards... he always NEEDS to play the latest shit on release, never replays stuff and has to go with the hype.
"I can't play OoT Remake this month, too many other games" ... I was so pissed, I said: Nigga.. you can play OoT a month later or even a fucking year later... he's the same with movies btw. Makes my fucking blood boil.

In short: Good games are good, regardless of their age.
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>played for two hours
>realized its parryslop
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>>750228109
>it was a relevant game at the time when we were wanting more dark souls. that franchise has now been run into the ground and played to death because of all the subsequent games. you should've played it back then. you should've played dark souls, bloodborne and then realized it was time to drop fromsoft games after dark souls 3. instead you continued to play their games to death and are now unimpressed with a game that did everything before you got watered down versions in all the sequels.
very long way of saying yes
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>>750228415
more like central yawn. forbidden woods is much better i feel people dislike traps and fun enemies.
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>>750228415
This. I always lose interest after amelia
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>>750219903
>it was cool only at launch when it was new and relevant (just like any other game/movie/product),
>(just like any other game/movie/product)
Genuinely good games are timeless in their coolness and appeal.
I'm not gonna name the games, because I know that you're a faggot who is just gonna go "NUH UH, THAT GAME DOESN'T COUNT!!!" no matter what example I give.
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>>750228558
you made the choice to not buy ps4 and hold out for it to be released on another platform. don't get salty at me.
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>>750228635
>and fun enemies.
lmao, a third of FW is those snake cluster enemies. Another third is just the same Yharnamites you've fought a million times before. There's also recycled giant boar, dogs and crows. I'm having so much fun!
The only fun enemy at FW is the Resident Evil 4 Ganados snakeheads.
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>>750219903
>>750220970
>>750221128
brownest poster of the year award
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>>750228895
>its not fotm. you just had to play it that month
very compelling
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>>750229279
we can't go in the past and change it.
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>>750219430
If you take it as a package deal and consider Bloodborne to be both the Old Hunters and basegame, I'd say it's aptly rated. Base game Bloodborne just isn't THAT good and the DLC saves it.

Really the main thing I hate about Bloodborne (besides the terrible extra damage you take from being in motion when you get hit) is chalice dungeons. Thankfully they're optional but they get so miserable to play, and part of me wishes they scrapped the concept completely and spent the dev time making the base game better.
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>>750219430
The DLC is the best part of Bloodborne. The base game is just okay.
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>>750219430
The aesthetics of this game are unmatched imo, and the only complaint i see is bosses being easy but that only matters if you are a zoomer that plays these games as some sort of boss rush.
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>>750220650
All existed since DeS and DS1



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